Traxxas Trx4 vs Axial Scx10.2

In this video we try to answer the question which new scale crawler is better. The brand new Traxxas Trx4 or the Axial Scx10.2?

[@NateRamsey]

Question for all you viewers, Would you like to see another comparison video? This time with nearly equal bodies and/or tires. Also we'll put it in crawl mode this time (ain't nobody got time to read manuals) and lock the rear diff.

[@General_Eisenhower1945]

BlockHeads Garage I'd like to see a humvee body come out for it.

[@General_Eisenhower1945]

Jeff Dingess dude if they didn't see it from the video it's too late

[@NateRamsey]

It is full time 4wd. Both axles are driven at all times. The diffs lock both wheels on a axle together.

[@grey-adventures]

Would be nice to see a video with equal tires. As far as locked, I would rather see a video where you use all of the vehicle capabilities. If you need to make a tight turn, unlock it, hard crawl, lock it... Regardless it looks like the TRX4 is a good rig. My only real concerns are the weight, COG, and complexity. Hopefully the new HPI Venture will be as good as these two. Variety is good.

[@wolfbanger2124]

i guess it's like any new release, there will be ppl who love and ppl who hate it. Im picking mine up today, from the running videos ive seen, it is a nice performing rig. Is it perfect, by no means, but i think it will be a really challenging and really fun RC.

[@Oscar-ce1et]

from what I seen the axial ll made it look easier and it had more flexibility. This my opinion

[@rcfrenzy]

Great head to head video! Seems the traxxas's main downfall is the scale and body and bumpers since they hang up alot. Not a big deal though, it looks great!

[@NateRamsey]

I completely agree, I've gotten to drive the truck some more (since I haven't given it back to Stormer Hobbies) and it's even more capable than it appears here. But the accessories kill it, especially in our all uphill crawl area.

[@User22435]

You could watch this video and say “oh well the axial didn’t need all those fancy gadgets” and to a point, I would agree. But honestly, those fancy gadgets make the trx4 what it is. A cool sale crawler meant for fun. I have a trx4, I love it. I’ve had a few axial, I love them too. Great comparison!👍

[@bananaman7646]

Riley A. I have both rtr’s of the trx4 and the axial scx10 ii and I noticed the try 4 seemed to be a bit more too heavy than the axial but with the retro axial you have to be very careful because it’s bumper sticks out quite a bit so there’s two cons to both that kinda make them even but the new scx10 iii I think is gonna hold 2020 atleast.

[@PAI-MuhammadAfiqAimanBinMuhama]

Can I have one axial...I've been wanting one but got no money for it 🥲

[@jessjoshwyatt3571]

The Axial definitely looked alot smoother going thru than the trx4 so I'm glad I went with the choice I made.

[@twojacksonestand]

Yeah, the axial dominated

[@Anonymist79]

Definitely more capable out of the box than the TRX4.

[@kurtwolhuter2209]

I go with AXIAL.

[@pinto3250]

Correct me if im wrong but isnt the axial full 4x4, and the trx4 has locking hubs which he was engaging and disengaing?

[@fruit5488]

@@pinto3250 Yes he was. The TRX4 has lockable/unlockable diffs which you can control from the remote and the Axial has permanent locked diffs.

[@ka4172]

Wow i am surprised the TRX 4 compete so well with the SCX ll! Very nice video and amazing well comp crawling! I will buy the TRX 4 too,more scale details and technical options!

[@futurespeed]

Great video! +1 Did you have the ESC in crawl mode? It has 100% drag brake in this mode. It is profile 5 in the ESC.

[@chitoloc3707]

I'll take the Axial all day errrrryy day

[@relichunter1099]

Same I love the XJ.

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

The TRX4 is the ultimate box stock Scale Trail rig!!! ;) When you add a set of Flatiron xl tires, a 3S 2'200mah 30C, along with a lightweight body. And the TRX4 becomes a total BEAST on the rocks!!! ;)

[@jburgess5]

Great video of these two trucks. The main thing I can see is the heavy body of the traxxas gives it a slight disadvantage to the a axial. That extra weight makes a big difference in climbing steep grades. JMHO

[@zukiguypwnage]

It's disappointing to see so many people instantly dismissing the TRX-4's performance as inferior because they were testing out the locking differential feature which made it look like it struggles in spots. I think a lot of Axial fans are going to be surprised when they get to run against one in person, even more so when we start seeing modded examples showing up that really make use of the new features and address the shortcomings of the RTR unit. I have a TRX-4 and a well tuned/modded Ascender.. It's easy to see the TRX-4 has a lot of potential when you compare it to the competition in person.

[@OpSic66]

As someone who wheels in real scale, as well as R/C. Your comment could not have been more accurate. The issue with many "RTR Crawlers" is they simply have spool axles. This is simple not how it is in the real world. The drivability of the vehicle would end up as utter crap. I'll address the differences in a different comment.

[@theclaclak]

si on commencer à parler du prix !!? 300dollars d'écart entre les deux !!!

[@RCPlayGround]

I think trx4 made it really good this time. looks very good.

[@mbsanocki88]

Thats crazy the axial looked like it took that course alot better then thd traxxas.

[@twojacksonestand]

Absolutely

[@joshfeister6566]

I own a couple scx10 and they are great but I will own that new Traxxas.. how cool is being able to lock and unlock diff with high and low gears... That alone is something I dig

[@quarans08]

Same here.

[@sygracing]

With owning 7 SCX10's and 2 of them being the 10.2 I will at some point buy the Traxxas, only because it is new. I will also buy the HPI (If it ever comes out) Having driven both as well, I feel the SCX10.2 RTR performs better as you drive it the way it comes with no extra features needed. I think comparing them both again with the traxxas locked and providing some more sidehill and downhill would be great. I also think running the traxxas after the SCX10 allowed the traxxas driver to see what lines have been chosen and what hangup there are prior to trying it. I am still an Axial fan over all but will still add one to my collection.

[@sherman614]

All the Axial fanbois on here are hilarious. The main difference between these 2 crawlers is that the TRX4 has a much heavier body, and higher center of gravity, the it's not that the Axial is superior haha.

[@joellerue850]

You can buy either one of these you'll have a great time nice rigs for sure

[@NateRamsey]

Exactly.

[@BrianM78]

Thanks for the comparison video. Not bad for a bearded fellow. Have a like.

[@new.handle]

But RTR version of SCX10-II is inferior to kit version of the same.

[@grey-adventures]

The SCX10-2 seemed to be the better crawler while the Trx4 was more scale. Perhaps it was a diff being unlocked on the Trx but the SCX10 looked like it completed the gates easier even with the non comp compound tires that come in the RTR version.

[@NateRamsey]

I'd agree it looked that way, firstly we have more time spent with the axial so we know how it drives. Secondly we did most the course with the rear diff unlocked, just to see what it was capable of. I ran the truck some more today and it's just as capable as the scx even with all the extra weight hanging off the back.

[@ka4172]

Please do more RC Crawler/Scaler videos ,this are one of the finest TRX4 videos on You Tube!

[@NateRamsey]

I'm sure we will, maybe I'll do a build series on the trx4.

[@souledoutrc8174]

David Grey I agree bro Scx10 II outperformed the trx4

[@Braveblackjeep]

Jeff Dingess it is 4 high or 4 low there's no 2wd on the trx4

[@mr.sinister1279]

Ther is no best RC crawler cuz if it wer then all RC enthusiasts would by it.. it’s a matter of preference n choice.. u cannot go wrong wit either one!!

[@NateRamsey]

That's my exact thought. I chose the trx4 and I have been running it ever since, but I do want to get a Scx10.3 now.

[@mr.sinister1279]

@@NateRamsey ok cool

[@keannemarkespinosa329]

I like the scx 10.2 because its simpler, well balanced, and its just a great rc

[@theclaclak]

oui et pour le prix d'un trx4 j'ai deux axial ^^

[@AngryTurds]

I just came here to read all the butthurt comments from axial owners. Not sure why people need to do that. Anyone with half a brain knows they deliver. Perish the thought someone else might have something great to bring to the table!

[@luke_atthat]

True. Let's be honest. I was dreaming to add portal axles on my SCX10 Rubicon, but costly. Also I was dreaming of being able to unlock the axles... I slowed the gearing of my rear axles to improve climbing and turning. I would have like to go on second speed for few faster promenade. Except for the unlockable axials, all those dreams could come through on my Jeep at a high cost. And I don't know about the lockable axials, first time I see it remotely controled. And here it comes from Traxxas, waterproof electronics, water-resistant truck, portal axles, 2 speeds, 2 lock/unlock axles, 5 channels controler, very low gravity (except the body), all of that for 600 CDN$!!!! Wow! Chapeau! Congratulations Traxxas. Axial wake-up and offer us as much please!! I might use a Rubicon body on the Traxxas... But after all it is not so bad! 5 Thumbs to Traxxas.

[@theclaclak]

@@luke_atthat oui mais 300 dollars de plus qu'un axial !

[@luke_atthat]

@@theclaclak jamais vu ça à 300$... mon Axial ma coûté 450$ et j'ai dépensé 600$ en modification qui n'ont pas dépassé le standard de Traxxas

[@theclaclak]

Moi je viens d'acheter le cherokee en rtr à 350 euros chez" miniplane" et le traxxas et a 650euros pays france.

[@luke_atthat]

@@theclaclak Il faut voir ce que l'on recherche. Pour moi les essieux verrouillables c'est le Nirvana ( surtout pour une conduite réaliste ) ! 2 vitesses un bonus. Les portals un rêve enfin accessible. Alors j'ai payé pour ce que je voulais et je suis très satisfait. J'ai ajouté un treuil telecommandé, le kit de lumière, servo plus puissant, un BEC, deux ensembles de roues d'acier Gmade et pneus Pitbul, et des accessoires à l'échelle. C'est mon hobby et j'aime. J'encourage aussi mon marchand local dans tout ce que j'achète

[@noodlesflawed4800]

The TRX looks awesome! I have mostly Traxxis, Some ThunderTiger 50 size nitro heli I built and a few others such as HPI Baja. I built my Crawler using worm drive diffs which is strictly a Rock Crawler but this new Traxxis dose everything my Summit does ie high low gearbox, diff locks but the Summit is not a scaler like the TrX. The Traxxis gets my vote..

[@jeffparryncc1701]

You will have to spend another $300-400 on electronics when the Traxxas crap gives out. Change the wheels and tires on the Axial and run all day...

[@tgh117]

I am sold on the trx4. WIth a few slight adjustments I think it can stomp an axial truck just like the ascender was able to do . I am happy with all the new stuff, axial had way to much of the market for too long. Thanks for the good video showing the side by side.

[@rexormg]

The defender body is BY FAR the worst TRX4 body , INSANELY top heavy and a lot of weight in that spare tire , can I request a comparison with different bodies or no body on both? Just curious been thinking about getting the scx10 but every hobby shop ive gone to, no joke all of them, describes it as a " dumbed down " TRX4 and tells me theres no point in me buying one if I already have the TRX4, but looks like a cool rtr rig....also if theres an incline you can't go up in the defender try going up it backwards , you'll be suprised lol all that spare tire body weight and " luggage rack" going backwards makes a huge difference

[@Anonymist79]

Good vid. Would be better without the music though.

[@DArealCHAZZ]

Traxxas is way expensive for their products. Axial once awhile for their products to. So I want with the next best thing scout10 2 clone 😆... then you go ahead and throw a V3 gspeed chassis rails on it and you can't be stopped LOL everyone have a great day and a great crawl

[@capttoothfairy4920]

I like the trx4 because it is so much better

[@thomasgross8289]

I started out in the hobby with the redcat gen7 sport wich was really a scx10 clone. As o broke thing's i "upgraded" with axial scx10 II parts. Imo they were better than redcats...but not by much. Last year I got the trx4 sport and I have beat that thing like a redhead step child running right there in just about all area's as 1k comp rigs and haven't broken anything i mean ziltch! Its almost boring how capable it is lol.

[@ncrc4468]

I love my Trx but as usual with Traxxas they give you bargain bin servos with a high end model. Just like with my Xmaxx the steering servo went out within weeks. Now my locker and shift servos are going out.

[@jameshankssr466]

Axial hands down way better than that overpriced traxxas junk not to mention traxxas electronics suck! Get the axial scx10II builders kit and you could make your own and its still less money than the trx

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

4:26 & I'm curious about the fair amount of torque twist? I have not seen any torque twist as of yet.

[@cmdub420]

The scx10 is made to be upgraded and modified while the Traxxas is basically made to be left the way it is. The SCX10 has a better platform with a dramatically larger aftermarket parts availability as well as a larger following of competitive drivers. Replace the stock A/T tires on the axial with KLR's and add your personal taste of scale parts to the body and you will never look at Traxxas the same. This is basically in regard to any RC hobby, Traxxas has always been the value-leader but that doesnt make them the best.

[@trevorsheadband4369]

Thanks. Please consider deleting this music before you next vid man. My ears are bleeding... Great vid otherwise!

[@jacobcvpi8279]

So dramatic lmao, it’s not even loud🤦‍♂️

[@chacha88029]

Hello new friend here from Aivsor

[@kevinpearson3820]

To me it looks like what's better plastic or more plastic with more plastic stuff that can break. Axial and Traxxas. Lol they both look like toys to me.

[@rausundfern]

Nice job dude! I love them both. They´re both really nice an capeable riggs! I think both of them got their ups and downs. Subed!

[@Marco-ih5ud]

TRX4 Is awesome but scx II moves Better... It could be interesting a test with same tires and same body.

[@fozzysrchobbies1343]

Yep trx 4 over axial anyday of the week. IMO axial is over rated . There is alot of trucks out there that can outperform them . I just like the fact that there lead guy left axial and went to redcat . LOL

[@JoelTGM]

I think if you want scale then buy whatever has the best potential for looking scale. if you want to crawl better then you should be onto a moa comp crawler. worrying about how well my scaler can crawl feels pointless when my bully 2 will destroy it in every situation.

[@nachen-rccrawler1373]

a ver....el tema esta en que quien lleva el traxxas?? es tonto? porque no bloquea diferencial cuando axial lo lleva asi de fabrica? para que marea haciendo la tonteria de intentarlo,es como coger un suv de hoy dia y querer hacer una ruta 4x4. increible ( y tengo que decir que axial no es mala ,pero traxxas solo por el portico en ejes subira mejor hacia arriba , de lado gana axial siempre por mucha modificacion que pongas sean gomas ,pesos o suspensiones.

[@stevelangley2349]

Clearly the axial handled crawling better and had better tires. The reviewer should have watched his own video.

[@andyrichey1192]

I'm with you, I got the TRX4 79 ford bronco awesome right out of box Great performer thanks for sharing and I watch for more

[@inventoryworks6040]

How does this compare you whould have compared trx-4 and axial scxiii not scxii

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

Slippery tires and the diff's unlocked at 4:26, well until you locked the front diff ;)

[@jasongartner5267]

The axial has all terrain tires lol

[@SJ-fj3jp]

Are they both waterproofed and go through water does anyone know this would make my mind up

[@tomlucasrccrawlers9108]

I'm sure your aware that there are...I believe...5 available driving modes for the TRX4 esc. It's delivered with the "trail mode" with just a hair of drag-brake, brake and then reverse . Also has a "child-mode" that cuts the voltage in half , a "Rock mode" with full drag-brake and instant reverse and two more modes. Really good video but should read the manual before you did the video so you could tell the viewers. And you could've switched the esc over to "Rock mode". One other really cool feature is the "Cruise Control". As your driving at the speed you want....just press the red button one top at the right....let go of the trigger and it stays at that speed. Hit the brakes and it shuts off....like a real car.

[@Powerpickle68]

Madeline Lucas Actually the child mode as you called it doesn't cut voltage in half, that mode drops voltage by approx 20% thus top speed drops by about 30% which is how traxxas computes 50% less power.

[@carsonfreer1699]

Trx 4 was nothing compared to the axial

[@philr34]

i stop the video before the end, the comparaison in not impartial, the Axial take the simpler way, the TRX is pushed to his limit.

[@kcameron273]

Jesus Freak! That took me back to high school. Good video man.

[@NicStaed2K190131]

That's awesome enjoy ur stuff sir Brett #Aivsor

[@facebiter]

sub'd. best video by far. liked the way you never locked the diffs just because you could

[@NateRamsey]

Thanks man.

[@relichunter1099]

Don’t do as much music because I love to hear the rc not music

[@mortenberg2897]

Traxxas moves like a real car - the other a little more like a toy.... both great 👍

[@michaelchaplin866]

Why the music guys? It makes it really crap

[@TOPRCBrasil]

Beautiful video greetings from Brazil

[@rccarshobby]

Good comparison, Like and sub you

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

overall, do you approve of the TRX4? Also, how do you feel it steers compared to the Axial. We have 2 SCX10s and a 10.2 kit.... looking to add a 10.2 RTR as well as something different, and so far I'm not into the RC4WD trucks much . This is the first non-axial truck I've really wanted, but I love the steering on my 10.2 so much that now I'm spoiled and am just hoping to hear good things about the steering on the TRX4 truck. Thanks for the video!

[@NateRamsey]

It maneuvers so much better than the Axial, due to the selectable diffs. I think the axial's servo has a bit more torque, there were a few times the trx4 didn't have enough torque to turn the tires in really bound positions.

[@JustMeInMyPatrol]

Why do i see so many butthurt comments already? just to sort a few things out. SCX 10 II RTR OR KIT wouldnt change the way the traxxas drove...... Secondly the fact the scx10 ii went first didnt give the traxxas a advantage.... as he mentioned its a crawl spot they go to and they have had more drive time in the scx10 ii ALSO I CANNOT SWITCH FROM 2WD TO 4WD..... you can however lock and unlock the diff center.... lol hopefully that sorted some things out on another note looks like this could be a good competitor aginst the others :)

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

Deuce has the rear ring gear on the left side of the axle. and the battery tray on the right side of the chassis, opposite of the torque twist. Oops!!! SCX10 has the rear ring gear on the right side of the axle, and the battery tray dead center of the chassis. It's so much better for serious rock crawling... I'm sure Axial will figure it all out one day ;)

[@yamahaJDM]

good thing ! i purchase 10.2

[@sik05civic]

There were a few spots where you pushed the trx4 harder like at 8 :10 in where you turned the trx4 uphill higher onto the rock and almost rolled it, for the scx10 you just drove straight through and not as high on the rock... biased? Maybe... idk and the fact you would lock and unlock the axles on it making it appear it struggled more in some places where the scx10 didn’t... test seemed biased to me

[@NateRamsey]

I'd have to say we're completely unbiased. To prove that point we both own a Trx4. This was literally our first time driving the trx4 to where we have driven the scx a while now. So we wanted to see what it was capable of.

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

TRX4 VS SCX10 II. Try pushing an 80 ton Army Tank up a 70° incline. Now try pushing a Feather up that same 70° incline. Now add 3S to the Feather!!! 😈 Build It Light & Wind It Tight!!! PS: if you're rig can dance across the Rocks, well then. You've already won!!! ;)

[@mrmatthew9754]

TRX out the box is set to trail mode.....changing it to crawl mode gives you 100% drag brake and is a game changer. Great vid 👌

[@NateRamsey]

Thanks man. We've since learned from our ignorance (or lack of reading)

[@malitkies]

You should state somewhere in the video that the SCX10-II that your wheeling around is the RTR Version and not the Kit version. The Kit version of the SCX10-II has a lower CG Transmission and Stickier compound on the tires among other things such as a roof rack etc and of course the option to pick your own electronics and even the links may change things up a bit as well as the slightly upgraded suspension on the Kit version.

[@mobgma]

It is obvious. Anyone who knows anything about the Axial SCX10-II knows that this one is the RTR.

[@thecrazyslopoke]

It was kinda obvious when he said "straight out of the box"

[@malitkies]

Might be obvious to those who have owned the vehicles or have some knowledge as to what is what but to people who are just entering they would not know the difference between the two and would just make assumptions. I suspect a lot of people that will be looking at this vehicle due to it being a Traxxas will be newer to the crawler scene altogether.

[@JustMeInMyPatrol]

lol is this the butthurt type of comment? rtr or kit would of made any difference to how the trx4 crawled :) lets face it axial in general make good crawlers but nothing special same goes for every other company and same goes for traxxas now overall the traxxas seems to be good competition against all the other companies...

[@malitkies]

lol, that's what you think, than you need to re read things. I was just stating differences between a Kit and RTR and that people should know about the differences between the two of them. Not saying the Traxxas isn't a good RTR or even performs any better or worse than an SCX10-II kit or rtr. At any rate it isn't a bad thing to have competition, make the other companies who have had the scale/crawler scene to themselves over the years actually step up and innovate some more, maybe force them to actually include 2 speed transmission in their rigs instead of having to buy the parts to make the vehicles 2 speed among other things that should be looked at.

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

Deuce rtr vs the Deuce kit. It's fairly complicated and to make a long story short... The RTR has a better front to rear weight bias ;) Maybe not as strong of gears in the rtr, but definitely more capable out of the box than the kit.

[@BowlleuxMobile]

Nice comparison video i have the TRX4 and its a very great crawler

[@somethingforeveryone4206]

The axial performed much better.

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

TRX-4 = $450 with the factory two speed. SCX10 II RTR = $410 without the two speed, & $510 with the two speed option. Traxxas has changed the Scale Trail game from here on out ;)

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

I like the Scale Trail setting, I think it's setting #4 on the XL5+ ESC. I really don't have much of a need for the super strong drag break, uh setting #5 I think! Only because I use reverse when I start down a hill and still have the ability to let out of the break so it will gain a little speed. If I want to go super slow I just give it more break, and it's totally awesome!!!

[@GMS86_RC]

saya suka trx4 pastinya.... :)

[@aeriejo6510]

I cant wait till i get my TRX4

[@rickyacosta5972]

Man that music was horrible

[@viktortsoi3994]

Axial 10 || no question.

[@johnrey1838]

Keep vlog enjoy#aivsor

[@Clickbaiters]

The crazy thing about this video is that you never put the Traxxas ESC into crawler mode which gives you 100% drag brake and instant reverse, truck ships in "trail mode" out the box. Probably should have read the manual in the box first. You can see how the TRX4's top-heaviness affects it at times.

[@danielsonhobbies]

Cool video comparison! However, music is too loud at times to hear what your saying.

[@NateRamsey]

Sorry about that. Thanks for the input

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

I would love to install the TRX4 electronics in the Deuce rtr, I think it would be awesome!!! ;)

[@nomusicrc]

This would have been better without the music I think the axial performed better does the axial have locking diffs and two speeds this was a good comparison I have the TRX4 just got it not too impressed with its rolling over constantly

[@MrLegion1capone]

You can really tell the weights of the defender body works against it

[@Redbeard42069]

TAKE THIS TO THE BANK: If you're looking for a truck to start out with and mod into an awesome crawler, the TRX-4 COMES with options that are either not available or would cost you $300 to $400 to add to any other rtr trail truck/crawler. Go price a portal axle kit for and scx-10 or remote locking diffs (if you find THAT send me the link cause I've never seen them) and you'll see what I mean. The TRX-4 at $419.99 or whatever you find it for is AWESOME, and is actually priced REALLY WELL when you consider the options. Long time Axial and Traxxas fan here, but if I had to pick one truck to start out with, I'd have to go with the TRX-4.

[@jkclawncareandlandscape5880]

Scx10.2 I think overall did best has a better turning radius . In traxxas defense they have higher clearance . But I'm still everytike getting the scx10.2

[@oldironsfury]

Nice video, with a decent comparison of the rtr offerings of both companies ! I don't know who I would go with Axial is great and proven and obviously doing well because they are sold out everywhere haha but also that is a inconvenience for a new buyer who can't buy it because of availability. Some people may just buy a Traxxas TRX4 or a HPI Venture for being available at the time of their hunt to purchase. You have to keep up with the market demand ; ) either way good video !

[@stwright318ify]

I also was wondering if you have a Traxxas Summit? I have a summit and the thing is a beast and practically can't be stopped with the diffs locked. I wondered if it drives like a miniature Summit minus all the suspension travel the Summit has. And did you ever upgrade your Electronics ( I want what the Mamba Monster X ESC and brushless motor I'm not sure which KV it is) in your summit and have problems with the diffs? What diff oil would you suggest if you do have a summit or an idea to help. I spent about 80 to $100 upgrading my rear diff to hardened gears and the carrier that locks the rear diff and put and upgraded Center Drive Shaft and had friend rebuild it because he had had his Summit for about 2 years prior to me getting mine so he knew how to shim it to get it to be correct for how complicated the Summit is. It didn't last 5 minutes without destroying all the gears in the diff. Went back to using the $50 stock replacement diff and haven't had a problem since. But I'm sure that's only a matter of time running to 9000mah batteries at 120 C discharge rate running on 4S.

[@DocWolph]

In terms of Buggies, the SCX seems more like the RC-10, very technical and straight to the point. The TRX4, is a lot like a Losi, is laden with more tech, although it is not enough to really put completely over the SCX. Or in term of a automobiles. The SCX is very much like a JEEP and the TRX is like a Range Rover.

[@Bangbangboom51]

I think the weak drag brake issue is not because of the Traxxas Electronics but rather the weak torque 21T 550 Traxxas Motor is why the drag brake is weak. Try switch to it with a decent 27T or even better, a 35T brushed motor and that will drastically increase drag brake power.

[@HugoPerk]

While I feel Traxxas is billing this more as a scale trail truck, I think they produced a decent crawler especially for their first go at this genre of RC's. I'm not a Traxxas fanboy but I do give them credit for what they've done with the TRX-4. Based on previous Traxxas vehicles I've owned, the tires probably need to be upgraded and a more LCG body could help its crawling abilities. I am a fan of the LR Defender bodies so I'd have to see if weighted wheels or other modifications could help stability before replacing the body. I'm eager to see how the new Titan motor and HV ESC work out. I've always been quick to install the Tekin 40T Pro system in as I've had very good success and durability with it. Very strong motor with decent speed although the hand wound Pro version does require some proactive maintenance to keep it running at high levels. In regards to your video, I like the comparison as I'm sure this will be one of Axial's biggest competitors in the RTR crawler world. Next time it would be nice to see the comparison done with the same camera angles/location and follow the exact line of each other. A couple of the shots were in reverse angles which made it somewhat difficult to see how the trucks were hooking up in comparison to each other. Also, a line that is an inch off in one direction between the trucks could possibly change how they handle the terrain...hope that makes sense. Good video concept though as I am torn between the two. The one thing the SCX-10 has going for it is the huge aftermarket parts selection, although I'm sure parts manufacturers already have TRX-4 parts in design or even production. Thanks for the video!

[@Brickydude2]

really good comparison. With a lightweight body the TRX-4 would hang right with the SCX10 in all situations, and probably be better in some. I really like the way the TRX-4 Sport model doesn't have the extra weight or servos to break. Might pick one up, and that's coming from a guy who owns an SCX10

[@scottharris6423]

I think your comparison was fairly equal with the exception at 8.01 the Traxxas took a higher line in which it didn't do as well as the Axial. The Traxxas is a bit top heavy. I would still buy the Traxxas, I just like the scale, additional features and would pay the extra money. Your video, job well done.

[@RamblingRuters]

Ownes Axial crawlers and Traxxas stuff, never was really a fan of Traxxas quality, however the locking diffs that the Summit has works great and very useful, never had an issue with them, so for a stock rig this TRX4 is pretty good.

[@jerrywatson1958]

Nice video. I'd like to see more comp crawling with the Defender vs. all comers. The one thing you may have not have known is HOW to drive a Landrover Defender 110 in technical off road/climbing situations. They are exceptionally capable off road vehicles but you don't drive them like a Jeep or a Rock bouncer. You use the weight bias as leverage for tight spots and side hill safety is up to 30 degrees after that you run the risk of rolling over if you're not REAL careful with your momentum. If you watch some real 1:1 Defender 110's in action trailing and climbing you can see how the pro's get it done. I put a 70 gram chain on my front bumper to give it a little more forward weight bias. This helps a lot when going up steep inclines and hasn't caused any end over end rollovers going down hill (yet). This RC is almost perfect representation of the 1:1 in the way it handles. There are YT videos on how to drive the defender off road and hill climbing. They were very helpful to me to improve my crawling in general with this setup. The RC4WD version is a nice hard body "Shelf Queen". They handle like what they are toy models. They are only meant to look good. They "bounce" like a plastic toy while driving, are very "stiff" in handling IMO. Real vehicles don't handle like that except in NASCAR. Love your guys name, I was one in high school in shop class during the week and in the dirt on the weekends racing whatever me and my friends could get running. We started with go carts and by graduation we were building street rods and dirt bikes. Today we have RC cars and not just Airplanes ;v).

[@44punisherable]

just more parts to break and buy. however nice scale realism with choosing open or locked diffs. I'm still sticking with my custom builds. nice try traxxas. i learned my lesson with the revo

[@OpSic66]

Realistically the comparison of the SCX10 II, to the TRX-4 is unfair. The TRX has Portal axles, lockable axle diffs, and a two speed transmission. The SCX has spooled hi-pinion solid axles, and a single speed trans. Sure, this might not seem like much to most people who don't crawl or off-road in the real world. That said, to those of us that do, we instantly recognize that the TRX-4 is sporting some Massive upgrades, in comparison to the SCX10 II, which will make a remarkable better off-road vehicle, with better handling characteristics as pointed out by BlockHeads Garage. Those bashing on either vehicle, simply do not know enough about real world off-road driving dynamics. Two completely different classifications of vehicles, with two completely different purposes. If I wanted an off-road vehicle with bells n whistles, I would easily pick the TRX-4 and I almost did. That said, I wanted to build something that suited my driving style and off-road areas so I chose the Axial SCX10 II Builder Kit.

[@Sile]

I like the look of the TRX and I guess for scale purposes, the lockable diffs is a nice feature. Personally I couldn't justify spending the extra money if I predominately wanted a scaled crawler. It looks like you need the diffs locked to achieve what the SCX10 does standard. However, what I do like is that 2 speed gearbox and that it comes waterproof out of the box! All round, I think it's a great little truck for someone who wants to open the box and drive. Definitely some features here that I hope Axial will consider for future models.

[@jacobcvpi8279]

This is a great video! I just picked up a SCX10.2 raw kit(my first axial)and I already have a TRX4 so good to know what to expect!!🤙🏼

[@leorybrownoldestrckidintow6760]

This is the best comparison video on Utube by far. I do not understand why people try to compare the trx4 in front locked differential mode only to a axial product in all locked diff mode. This is not an apples to apples comparison and makes the trx4 look less capable. I would like to see the following comparison. #1.Both vehicles in low range and both front and back differentials locked. #2. Same video location, driver and driving line on the course. Need some side hill comparisons also. #3. Because tires and wheels are such large portion of crawler performance. Please use the same after market wheels, wheel weights and tires on both vehicles. Keeping in mind, most hobbyist will replace the rtr tires with their favorite type. Thanks for the great video. humbly submitted:

[@jkclawncareandlandscape5880]

The plus to the traxxas is that it will get people who never crawled before into crawling that's what it's great for bringing more to the scale crawler scene

[@xAuzzieGamer93]

my scx10 2 seems to be broken already and have only taken it out twice. front axle bounces when full lock left it right going toward or backwards. think it might be my cv shafts