Treating ASPD with MBT (Mentalization-Based Treatment) | ANTHONY BATEMAN

[@annenicholsonmbtp]

I’m in the MBT practitioner certification developed by Bateman. This method has given me the confidence to work with antisocials as well as borderlines. 😊

[@A-sh1eh]

Thank you for trying, please dont give up but please respect your boundaries.

[@myrusEW]

Can you help me? I’m struggling with every facet of my life as I get older because i become more and more antisocial. I have never cared for others, and my boss and coworkers have been calling me out. They say it’s easy to change. They say i’m angry, i’m a bully, i don’t care, etc. i have ZERO clue how to change. my gf left me one day with a note and i didn’t care beyond being mad about the change of routine. they don’t believe that’s possible. I can maintain the facade for a short period of time, but to genuinely care or change feels impossible. how can i stop being “mad” if i don’t even feel mad? how can i care if i don’t care?

[@annenicholsonmbtp]

@@myrusEW what I have learned from Dr. Bateman is that persons with antisocial personality disorder are primarily struggling with self-esteem. Everything else comes out of that. Perhaps rather than trying to work on your behavior. if you work on your self-esteem, you may find that.even if you don’t care about others you will get along better.

[@lukecarey613]

That’s amazing.

[@ziggyzigg25]

@@myrusEW it’s a wound that’s placed there from 0-3 years old. The only path that shows any hope is with psychedelics like Ayahuasca or Iboga. Even bufo (5meo-dmt) is a good start. Ayahuasca will loosen the soil around the wound. But I’ve only seen Ibogaine TA crack the shell around the wound you’ve been running from your entire life - the bad object. Only then can you begin to heal - which takes about 3-5 years

[@IndigoMasquerade]

So I completely respect Dr. Anthony Bateman's perspectives...but I can't stop hearing Scar's voice from The Lion King 😅

[@BorderlinerNotes]

Lol, I had to doublecheck that one and I hear it too! -P

[@therabbithat]

He's SO good at demonstrating the non-mentalizing bevahior that I get a little bit scared despite myself

[@dkmagos]

What does a person need to admit they've been wrong? To let go of an impenetrable defense system? On one hand they need to be in touch with the pain it causes, but also, in the presence of acceptance, compassion, love, non-judgment - which a defended mind can't imagine other's having. It's a risk. But the prize may be being fully human, the pearl of great price.

[@slofty]

Define “fully human.”

[@dkmagos]

@@slofty I think the best answer to that question is to put it back to you - what does that mean to you?

[@Saffron-sugar]

Poetic

[@hurricane_valence]

This is so true. I am diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder.

[@alexbalistreya]

Rebbie is very lucid and in tune with these conversations. I appreciate her additions and articulations, very insightful and helpful! In some very poignant way she engages in a truly collaborative way with Dr. Bateman, which to me exemplifies a goal of recovery from these various pathologies she presents upon. It truly is an honest and encompassed presentation of potentials toward recovery and the awareness involved in this process toward greater awareness around personality disorders.

[@dkmagos]

agreed!

[@le_th_]

I've found her to be a present and effective listener throughout the videos she has produced. She has helpful insights. I've found her series on personality psychopathology/adaptations to be very informative and worthwhile.

[@elba363]

Thank you, I’ve been hesitant to work with this population but after this interview/information, I might just attempt it🙏

[@GBLSGBLS-pl2zr]

I live with anti social personality disorder. I commend you for trying to help people like me. I have found, (many things ) about myself. If I had not I would be in prison or dead. One of the big things is keeping the disorder singular, and not let other mental illness get a foothold(bipolar depression, sociopathic persona etc. When this happens the person become volatile. This why serial killers have this and other disorders

[@herbieshine1312]

Thank you for this upload. I have a dreadful feeling my ex may have "conned" me of the person she was. I completely recognise my own part of being "conned" it was the first relationship I was in, even though I'm in my 50's, I have been very lonely most of my life so thinking someone liked me/ loved me was a totally new experience for me. it didn't sit happily with me and I was desperate to have an end to loneliness thinking we could be together. I realise because of my history of loneliness and depression it was possibly more difficult for me to see things weren't right between us until things got really difficult while my dad was dying and my mum's dementia got worse. I wish I could find a therapist to talk all this over with but the NHS is inundated with people needing help and I've had lots of help in the past. I'm struggling now to think I'd be able to trust a therapist again. It's all so messed up. Your videos really help me question myself and try to understand my problems better and to try to see things from others point of view. Again thank you

[@BorderlinerNotes]

Thank you for this. Wishing you the best during difficult times. -P

[@herbieshine1312]

@@BorderlinerNotes thank you very much

[@schiros123]

Where can someone find this kind of treatment?? My experience with most therapists is a vast lack of experience in unraveling complicated mental conditions.

[@rabinraj15]

Amazing! He is so synced that even the siren that passed by blended in harmony 🙌🏽 💪🏽 Hipnotising! 👌🏽👍🏽 Thank you Sir! 🫡 Much love & respect 🙏🏽 ❤ ~ Borneo, Malaysia

[@SoyoyoS]

This video has been extremely insightful, thanks to Dr. Bateman and people who make this channel possible!

[@RiMarBrown]

I went through cognitive behavioral therapy after being diagnosed aspd 36/40 almost 20 years ago. It was, not only instructive and entertaining, but it is something I have found innumerable instances of usefulness for bits scattered over the years since. I don’t see different as “wrong.” And I certainly have no desire to even remotely move toward neurotypical mindsets. However, that doesn’t mean I didn’t or don’t want to understand those mindsets and myself. I have no patience for inane niceties and platitudes, I don’t sugar coat it if you ask me a direct question, and I expect to be treated to the same witheringly exacting exchange as I give to others.

[@AJ-tx6vf]

Thank you for all the work everyone does on these. I hope ASPD can have as much scrutiny as BPD because it may, like other PD, be severely under diagnosed and the best conners are at the top just fluffed up and getting away because of money.

[@nasreenbari2765]

especially for the female population

[@A-sh1eh]

@@nasreenbari2765 yup, research goes into avoiding those "small" (half of population) cases, just like historical research of safety of seatbelts avoided pregnancy. Gets too complicated but it is very "easy" to become selfish and knock people up, pardon my french. Even for "engineers".

[@nasreenbari2765]

@@A-sh1eh absolutely in agreement with you

[@Saffron-sugar]

Thank you. I did not know that Mentalization Based Therapy could be used for ASPD too.

[@accordionSWE]

As a layman I encounter the word valence from time to time. What I understand is that valence is the emotion that determine emotional affect. But I have also read that arousal is more strong than valence. Valence is more graded and ambigious but arousal is stronger. People suffering from BPD are more prone to express their affect through arousal than valence? Anyone here can clarify this?

[@karlmcdowell431]

Need help with cluster b personality and type one bipolar main mood mania instense borderline emotions dont even know if i know anything else than uncomfortable happy or intense rage need to do therapy asap got money

[@enatp6448]

Some of the narratives about antisocial, borderline, and narcissistic personality is quite damaging and certainly not helpful to the individual or society. This is particularly so of one prominent clinical psychologist who has created a type of modern mythology of the boogeyman that only a few, such as herself, are brave enough and intelligent enough to understand. I guess it sells books, gets sponsors, and just makes for a more interesting story.

[@PaddyMcCarthy2.1]

I think I'll wait until the studies of MBT with ASPD against control groups comes out before making a judgement. As far as I am aware, no treatment has worked so far in relation to ASPD. In fact, all counselling has only made people with ASPD better at deceiving the counselors.Having said that, Dr. Anthony bateman , who is a colleague of Dr. Peter Fonagy, are doing good work, most recently, one of their theories has been shown to be true, namely reflexive function and mirror neurons confirming this. So, best of luck to them.

[@chris20908]

Can I make a suggestion? Keep camera only on person being interviewed otherwise it’s distracting for viewers. What is an “antisocial valence”?

[@perpetuaL524]

im sure she used that as a mask, a true antisocial core but a vail of social ability.

[@slofty]

A search yielded the following result in 2 to 3 seconds: “Valence, or hedonic tone, is the affects' property specifying the intrinsic attractiveness/"good[ness]" (positive valence) or averseness/"bad[ness]" (negative valence) of an object, event, or situation. The term also categorises emotions.”

[@jaynebailey]

I am a intervert and it is hard to understand what your point is

[@APMTenants]

Antisocial as in psychopathic, not someone who doesn’t like to socialize. Confusing term

[@Me_ThatsWho]

Dr Bateman, if you are referring to ANPD (and not just antisocial behavior), I strongly disagree with the statement that it is simply an adaptation to the patient's environment (I believe your word was "context"). Sometimes it is merely a cultural adaptation, other times it is structural.

[@soundsgood12]

But does he know what the I is? What is the I. Listen to J kristnamurti.

[@Redlight210]

let the man talk for god's sake

[@a.m.6847]

Prison is the BEST treatment for antisocial personality disorder

[@patrickthestar132]

Wow… you know that we are not all criminals?

[@robotempire]

@@patrickthestar132you just made a leap. It can be the best treatment, that has nothing to do with whether they think antisocial people should be in jail. Two completely unrelated concepts.

[@corruptedbloom2389]

let's go ahead and throw you in there then

[@zayan6284]

Not really. Many people say prison just made them better criminals since they’re locked up with others in the same trades who have nothing to do but talk for years

[@oreokid77]

That lack of empathy makes u look exactly like those who u judge. Self awareness is obviously necessary sir.