120 Things You Didn't Know About The Star Trek Movies

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@Indrid__Cold
@Indrid__Cold 2 ай бұрын
A lot of people fail to recognize that Kirk's fly-around of the Enterprise in STTMP was that it was a huge animated thank you card from Gene Roddenberry to THE FANS. Of all the things most Star Trek fans had fantasized about during the long years of waiting for SOMETHNG Star Trek was the appearance of the Enterprise with a real budget and modern special effects. I remember very clearly getting a huge lump in my throat when that full crescendo of music reveals the full view of the Enterprise. It was like a dream come true that I'll NEVER forget.
@goodoldbubba6620
@goodoldbubba6620 2 ай бұрын
Yes.
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 3 ай бұрын
Christopher Lloyd played one of the best Klingons ever to take the screen. Gowron will always be the most Klingon Klingon in my eyes, but Lloyd's energy and the way his character leans into his more Klingon moments with such enthusiasm really helped my immersion in the spirit of Trek and helped me understand the Klingons more as "people" and less as writing devices or stock antagonists.
@jppauley9969
@jppauley9969 2 ай бұрын
Both statements are so true!
@dieseljester3466
@dieseljester3466 2 ай бұрын
Can we all just agree that David Warner and Christopher Plummer simply chewed up the scenery in every bit of screen time that they had?
@gandalfthegay420
@gandalfthegay420 28 күн бұрын
If you haven't already I highly recommend that you play the game "Klingon Academy " It's a prequel to The undiscovered country and has them reprise their roles. It's brilliant.
@starlingwatch3921
@starlingwatch3921 3 ай бұрын
Several things led me to be a software engineer. One was an invitation from Harold Livingston, a friend of my father, to visit the Star Trek, the motion picture, sets on the Paramount Lot. They were filming the V’Ger probe scene on the bridge set. In the scene V’Ger sends a probe to scan the Enterprise. The probe was a standard 2 x 4 wood beam with a bunch of strobe lights attached up-and-down. A thick electrical cable ran from the bottom of the beam off the set to the right of the bridge’s view port. A single man sat in front of a mini-computer with a 102 style green terminal. When they were ready to shoot the director would call “Probe on” and the man would type a single key on the terminal keyboard. The strobes would start flashing. I was 16 and already wrote software for mini-computers. I asked the man about the rig. He outfitted a sensor on the film camera to know when the shutter was at its most open position as each frame went through. At that instant his program triggered one of the strobe lights to flash. The effect in the movie gives the probe a brighter-than-white glowing look. The man told me he was hired and was making an income from writing the software problem to make the effect work. This was the first person to show me I could have a career working with software. This was 1978. -Frank Cohen
@starlingwatch3921
@starlingwatch3921 3 ай бұрын
Harold complimented Nimoy for helping him to understand the character motivations. He apologized for not taking me around the stages, he told me he was typing the script at times 1 hour ahead of what they were shooting. So instead he dropped me into one of the sound stages and I got to wonder. I was on the engineering set which was under dust covers, feeling that I shouldn't be there, and Nimoy in full character was going over his lines walked in. He looked completely real. He didn't notice me and kept walking. It felt magical. -Frank
@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK
@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@scribe56
@scribe56 27 күн бұрын
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@jyesucevitz
@jyesucevitz 2 ай бұрын
I hope I not repeating myself. anyways, I was born in '66 and was fortunate to have parents that loved Trek. financially we would've been considered "poor". so going to the movies was a big deal for me. (especially around Christmas.) my dad took me to see Star Trek: The Motion Picture in it's second week. I even remember the theater we went to. since then I've seen every Trek movie in theaters. I'm glad mom and dad exposed Trek to me. thanks mom and dad.
@brunobillion3435
@brunobillion3435 3 ай бұрын
Star trek The Motion Picture is still to this day one of my favourite Star Trek movies
@Zooumberg
@Zooumberg 3 ай бұрын
It's certainly better than the reboots.
@brunobillion3435
@brunobillion3435 3 ай бұрын
@@Zooumberg I even prefer it to Star Trek II personally
@Andrew-pr9xv
@Andrew-pr9xv 3 ай бұрын
My least favourite by far, but I do enjoy seeing it get some love.
@Andrew-pr9xv
@Andrew-pr9xv 3 ай бұрын
​@@Zooumberg Trek 2009 is better than any other Trek film... except maybe The Undiscovered Country.
@DabbertjeDouwe
@DabbertjeDouwe 3 ай бұрын
Is it because it never ends?
@Arcade-fix
@Arcade-fix 3 ай бұрын
At a convention around 1987 in NH, Walter was the guest. He explained that Chekov was in the bathroom when Kahn needed to go. When he came out, Kahn said he would remember him.
@kefkamadman
@kefkamadman 2 ай бұрын
The Wrath of Khan is still my favourite, but The Voyage Home is a close second for me.
@peggywoods4327
@peggywoods4327 2 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@javeedsultan8484
@javeedsultan8484 9 күн бұрын
Agree
@sogwatchman
@sogwatchman 3 ай бұрын
53:00 The design of the Reliant was supposed to be inverted from what we know it as, with the nacelles on top like the other ships. One of the supervisors not knowing what he was doing held it upside down and said he liked the different design and that accidental change stuck. *edit: spelling
@dw7704
@dw7704 3 ай бұрын
Literally LOL’d at “Sends Sulu for sushi”, as it is so obviously a misdirection
@carlkingery9259
@carlkingery9259 3 ай бұрын
This video had to take a mountain of data and work it out. You all at Trek Culture deserve a standing ovation on this effort. I as a die hard Trek Fan was fully engrossed in this video. Bravo to Trek Culture!!!
@dan1216
@dan1216 3 ай бұрын
Jane Wiedlin was the rhythm guitarist in the GoGos, not the lead singer.
@rudolphguarnacci197
@rudolphguarnacci197 2 ай бұрын
She should have been allowed to sing lead more.
@jefferyyoung2580
@jefferyyoung2580 2 ай бұрын
😊
@user-eb4xs5ws6w
@user-eb4xs5ws6w 12 күн бұрын
Plus, they were New Wave, not Punk
@maatartemis
@maatartemis 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting this all together! Perfect timing as my husband and I have been rewatching all the films, so now I have fun facts to spew as we do. We have trouble finding media we both like, but we both love Star Trek!
@yellowrose0910
@yellowrose0910 2 ай бұрын
"The movie was bugeted at 400% less than its predecessor". You can't go below *100%* less... You mean "a quarter the budget of its predecessor".
@morganwinn1
@morganwinn1 3 ай бұрын
I'm a former aircraft engineer on harriers, I was screaming at my tv over the imperial sockets and especially a decent quarter inch ratchet. No toolkit of mine would not have the ratchet. I liked the video and will subscribe. 👍
@wangson
@wangson 2 ай бұрын
Star Trek: The Motion Picture is one of the greatest films I've ever seen - across all genres! It's brilliant, thoughtful, beautiful and timely!
@wangson
@wangson Ай бұрын
@7Zark7-ez1gw Hahaa!! Yep! The Dead and Star Trek -it's hard to go wrong with either (although both have suffered in their later incarnations...
@steveschaff4620
@steveschaff4620 3 ай бұрын
'Star Trek - The Motion Picture' was released when I was 12 years old, so I found it very boring when I first saw it, but it has risen a lot for me as I have gotten older. I still think that 'Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan' is the best 'Star Trek' film.
@user-dk3up2nl1m
@user-dk3up2nl1m 3 ай бұрын
.....you missed da Targetttt! - kirk
@DaNinja60
@DaNinja60 2 ай бұрын
I still love the warp drive effect from TMP. That is one effect I think they should have kept through the franchise.
@berthulf
@berthulf 2 ай бұрын
There is just something special about TMP that many films lack, even with its flaws, but UC will always be my favourite, because it's the only one that really shows the crew striving to live up to the ethos of starfleet and the federation, of being better and of moving past their bigotry and shortcomings. 1 isn't even really about the crew, 2 is a revenge story, 3 is a treasure hunt, 4 is mostly wacky fun (and my second favourite) and 5 is a hostage story more than anything, but 6 is a story about making yourself better and about actually practicing what you preach.
@user-ku5tv9xp3k
@user-ku5tv9xp3k 3 ай бұрын
My heart broke and cried like a baby when they killed Spock. After I calmed down ( stopped crying) I was mad, so mad that they killed my favorite character.
@suzanneroberge494
@suzanneroberge494 Ай бұрын
I remember a very similar reaction. These characters have become "dear friends" to us.
@v-squared
@v-squared 2 ай бұрын
The Enterprise reveal is still my top entry for ship reveals in Sci-Fi. The music, the slow build, it just works so well. Goosebumps everytime. The Enterprise D is now a close second though.
@FZVideos9630
@FZVideos9630 3 ай бұрын
This 2 hour video only covers the 120 things about the Star Trek The Original Series movies , not counting The Next Generations movies or Kelvin Timeline movies which I still waiting for 20 things I didn't know about Star Trek movies of Kelvin Timeline though it would be more difficult to search many infos and details on these movies compared with TOS & TNG era movies , I appreciate TrekCulture's effort of putting these videos I do enjoyed it
@AlanDavidDoane
@AlanDavidDoane 2 ай бұрын
The only thing to know about the Kelvin Timeline movies is, "Don't bother."
@ratboygenius
@ratboygenius 2 ай бұрын
This video presentation is like a whole book. Your research and presentation is top notch. Congrats! I'm not sure I can watch it all in one sitting, but I will keep coming back to it for a long time.
@tankertom3243
@tankertom3243 2 ай бұрын
The whole Ceti Alpha 5 and 6 thing does not wash. They would have had maps and known a planet was missing as soon as the entered the system. They had theat ability back in the Doomsday Machine, why not now?
@walterwhitejr.445
@walterwhitejr.445 3 ай бұрын
Personally, I love "Star Trek:The Motion Picture" - not perfect, but it manages to be an amazing science fiction film regardless. If they'd had more of the typical character dynamics we'd come to expect from the classic crew, it'd be a perfect example of the more cerebral side of Trek. In an age where science fiction was over-represented by space fantasy instead, I find it refreshing to have something more than just lasers, robots and battles. And damn, the Enterprise never looked better.
@lavern007
@lavern007 2 ай бұрын
I’m only 26 minutes in but I was at a convention in Virginia Brach where they introduced the trailer without theme or special effects. As we watched the Enterprise leaving space dock surrounded by prop masters and special effects people. People started humming the theme to accompany the video.
@jaykaramales3087
@jaykaramales3087 2 ай бұрын
Best 2ish hours I've spent in a long time. Most videos that would cover this material would not have the depth of research and would feel more click-baity. This is the real deal--well done!
@jeanfitzsimmons7442
@jeanfitzsimmons7442 2 ай бұрын
You, young man, do what you do wonderfully. Keep up the excellent work bringing goodies to trek lovers, even us elderly ones. And even if we don’t agree with you. It is all perspective anyway, and we all have our own.
@maeve4686
@maeve4686 2 ай бұрын
I started watching TOS at age 13! During the height of the Vietnam War, seeing dead soldiers & those wounded, NIGHTLY, Star Trek was an escape to the future of koom-biya, acceptance, no money,no War, no hostility WAS VERY IMPORTANT !!! Seeing a future of true peace was wonderful during those years. My brother just came home last year after 53 years in 'Nam. That's why he was ADAMANT about militarism...
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 3 ай бұрын
Patrick Stewart in a Members Only jacket is so 1989.
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for agreeing with me! I was worried for a minute that I was the only one who remembered.
@JAGGEDJUNKIE103
@JAGGEDJUNKIE103 3 ай бұрын
I love all the original Star Trek movies, even 5, i think its a bit underrated yes its got some issues (Effects, Turbo Lift numbers lol) but it still better than most of the Trek we get now.
@scottwelch5001
@scottwelch5001 3 ай бұрын
The problem I have with people calling the motion picture boring is that is was 10x the pace of any TOS episode. I have tried to sit and binge watch them and one 48 minute episode feels like 4 hours. Seriously, each episode has a 45 second slow zoom on a character's face to mimic "drama".
@user-dk3up2nl1m
@user-dk3up2nl1m 3 ай бұрын
Its reallyyyy slow. WOK was faster paced!
@thepeaksandthetroughs
@thepeaksandthetroughs 3 ай бұрын
1:39:22 According to IMDB state that Layla Sarakalo happened upon the set from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986) when her car was towed away to make room for the film's production. Sarakalo offered to be an extra so that she could make money to get her car back.
@justicewokeisutterbs8641
@justicewokeisutterbs8641 2 ай бұрын
I was an enthusiastic fan of Star Trek as a kid in the 60's. ....Me and all the kids in my elementary grade level. I think a lot of the appeal of the show was that Star Trek went way beyond the usual space themes at the time : the universe was populated and organized with well known, (anthropomorphic), civilizations and empires that interacted regularly, but space was still big enough that finding new alien stuff was also pretty common; it was the mission of the Enterprise to do that, after all. I think a lot of the show's appeal WAS the Enterprise: it was huge-literally a flying city- it was pretty- people now probably don't appreciate now how unique the design was for its time. We were in the middle of the race to the moon, so we were used to 1-2 astronauts crammed into a "capsule". The Enterprise glided around with smooth magnificence when it wasn't doing "warp speed". No one even questioned WHY it had to bank when it orbited a planet- it just really looked good. We all unreservedly loved the Enterprise. The main characters were also a draw. The Kirk/Spock/McCoy triumvirate with Scotty, Urura, Chekov , Nurse Chapel and Sulu orbiting it had more charisma and chemistry than the casts of most TV shows and the writers used them well. To this day you can mention those names and people know who you're talking about. But then it ended despite all of the fan petitions sent to NBC. And back then, when it was gone it was GONE. There was no VHS or DVD, no personal computers, no digital files of the episodes and no internet from which to download them. A few people had tape recorded audio of the episodes when they were broadcast. Then came books, fan fiction and conventions. It's not surprising that the 1979 movie was well attended. Star Trek had been missed by many. But- it was a disappointment in a lot of ways. I didn't like Spock being grumpy and I didn't care what made him that way. I wanted cool, dry-humor Spock. The interiors of the Enterprise were too different from the original. Wasted dollars. I didn't care about the bald lady or her boyfriend. That was fluff. The V-ger thing was cool, but then they did it to death...and beyond. Flogging Kirk's advancing age was pointless and annoying. However, Kirk's fly-by around the Enterprise at the dock was lovely, especially considering that the original series had established that he loved her. The whiz-bang shift to warp speed was cool and a little scary. No wonder they kept using it subsequently to the point of it becoming canon. The special effects were top notch for that time The score was really good. The "yay us" optimism and energy of the main theme was consistent with.the mood of original Star Trek. Finally, I think that it was nostalgia that ultimately drove fan acceptance of Star Trek: The Movie. I remember that at the time, if someone asked me what I thought of the film, my answer was always: " It was good to see the Enterprise again."
@Eddie-zk2qi
@Eddie-zk2qi 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you brought up the 22nd vs. 23rd Century thing. You are right in saying that Roddenberry left the time frame for TOS ambiguous. However I've been saying for years that TOS took place in the 22nd Century and not the 23rd. All you have to do is listen to the dialogue in several episodes. Here's a few examples: -Scotty says that Abraham Lincoln has been dead for three centuries. We all know Lincoln died in 1865. I think this is the most obvious example that TOS took place in the 22nd Century. -Kirk tell Khan that he has been asleep for two centuries. In other dialogue it's stated that Khan was supreme ruler of 1/4 of the earth from 1991 to 1996 (I think those are the correct dates). -When they go back in time to remove the evidence that Capt. Christopher gathered on them the Air Force Sgt. tell's Kirk he's going to lock him up for 200 years. Kirk's reply? "That ought to be just about right." -Flint gives his year of birth as 3834 BC. Spock tells Kirk that Flint's age is "on the order of 6000 years." Add 6000 years to 3834 BC and you get the year 2166. I know Spock said "on the order of" meaning he couldn't be precise, but even if he was off by a decade or two that still places that episode squarely in the late 22nd Century. That's all I can think of off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more. As for the title card at the beginning of Star Trek II that says "In the 23rd Century" it's likely that the movie took place in the first or second decade of the 23rd Century, not in the 2280's as the official chronology suggests.
@JoannaHammond
@JoannaHammond Ай бұрын
When ST3 came out I have never seen 1 or 2 at the cinema. My local cinema did a tripple show of all three back to back. It was a REALLY special occation for me as I was 11 and was quite restricted on what time I was supposed to go to bed at. This thing started at 6pm and just kept going. I was very confused about ST1 as it was so slow, in later years I appreciated it. ST2 was just AMAZING! And then we got to the new release ST3 and I was sat there going, it's good, but can I watched ST2 again?
@admcalister4678
@admcalister4678 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic job doing this. Well done guys. Have only watched part of it and already loving it.
@Dutchreason
@Dutchreason 3 ай бұрын
Motion Picture: The 2022 version is very different from the 2001 version of the Director's Edition. No-one seems even remotely aware of the 2022 version. Covid royalty f-d up the releases of this re-release, eventually being a direct to streaming release.
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 3 ай бұрын
No offense to Majell, but Jess Bush is the quintessential Christine Chapel for me.
@robertgreen6433
@robertgreen6433 3 ай бұрын
The original pilot with Geoffery Hunter was the Cage which the Menagerie used clips from . The Menagerie is the episode with Pike in the chair and Spock on trial
@IamJustJ.
@IamJustJ. 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. I explained to someone last week who didn't even know the pilot existed that he missed out (he's in his late 50s and early 60s, so I told him where to find the original pilot "The Cage"). I also explained where that footage came from for the court martial. I sent him off to go find the footage and I'll hear from him tomorrow.
@TrekCulture
@TrekCulture 2 ай бұрын
During the pitching phase it was known as 'The Menagerie'. 121.
@cherylmaden5989
@cherylmaden5989 2 ай бұрын
Love ur " red shirt" is there something we should know? Hahaha✨💀✨
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 3 ай бұрын
EVERYONE should read Kim Katrell's interviews following her appearance in VI. Her comments demonstrate that she's not only a fan's fan when it comes to Trek, but she's also tremendously insightful, spotting the importance of her character's details and how they serve to make her more identifiable as belonging in Trek despite this being her first appearance in it.
@Gunnberg85
@Gunnberg85 2 ай бұрын
I found her portrayal of a Vulcan most....illogical. There was simply too much emotion in her performance. No matter how many times both she and others would profess how much of a Vulcan she was, there were far too many emotional moments for the sake of drama. I would have easily taken her for an undercover Romulan; one of potentially many sewing the seeds of corruption between the Klingons and Federation.
@keit99
@keit99 3 ай бұрын
In the German version of TOS the "space the final frontier" of the intro had a year attached. "[...] wir schreiben das Jahr 2200" (it's the year 2200)
@Number6_
@Number6_ 3 ай бұрын
It was accually 2245.
@jjmfrees
@jjmfrees 2 ай бұрын
@@Number6_ 2266
@keit99
@keit99 2 ай бұрын
​@@Number6_as I said that was the German intro. Also TOS is in the 2260s
@Number6_
@Number6_ 2 ай бұрын
@@keit99 fair enough. I think we're not in a position to quibble over a few decades.
@Thegonagle
@Thegonagle 3 ай бұрын
The motionless picture does have a fantastic soundtrack. Of course, everybody that knows film and TV music knows that. The opening credits start with the larger than life orchestral title score that eventually becomes the basis for the beloved TNG theme. Then the theme behind the Klingon’s opening battle (if you can even call it a battle) is gripping from the start and pulls you right in… Into an underwhelming film, yes, but at least music never disappoints.
@frederf3227
@frederf3227 3 ай бұрын
Soundtrack is possibly the best and it's beautiful visually. It feels very much like 2001 A Space Odyssey but Trek.
@nc3136
@nc3136 2 ай бұрын
The undiscovered country is my favorite also.
@AuthenticTheeMiddleone
@AuthenticTheeMiddleone 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely love the Harlan Ellison reference. There is some excellent history between Ellison and Roddenberry. check it out.
@pjimmbojimmbo1990
@pjimmbojimmbo1990 3 ай бұрын
@1:33:12 Jane Wiedlin was not the Lead Singer of the Go Gos. That Role was done by Belinda Carlisle.
@CarrollRoge
@CarrollRoge 3 ай бұрын
You did it! The majority of this was indeed new to me. Very long video but the time flew by. Great job!!!
@Morecheeeeese
@Morecheeeeese 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant! 🙌 so much new info. Changing playback speed to .75 makes the muzak better, dude sounds more chilled out too
@jwb932
@jwb932 3 ай бұрын
12:12 Regarding director Joseph Sargent: he not only directed the first episode of Star Trek after the pilots ("The Corbomite Maneuver"), he also directed a 1964 episode of The Man From U.N.C.L.E. called "The Project Strigas Affair" in which an exterminator, played by William Shatner, interacts with a foreign operative, played by Leonard Nimoy - the first time the two actors worked together.
@brichan1851
@brichan1851 3 ай бұрын
13:30 Ilya was stunning!
@CelticCubby
@CelticCubby 3 ай бұрын
I know Star Trek III isn't the most popular of the TOS films but it's one of my favorites, it was the first one I got to see in theaters and I remember being heartbroken when the Enterprise was shown as a trail of flame in the sky. I am also in the minority but I think Robin Curtis was the better Saavik and is who I think of when the character is mentioned.
@davidshirkey1272
@davidshirkey1272 3 ай бұрын
WOW! I'm at the Star Trek II part of this video now and already have to pause and comment. WELL DONE SIR! Informative, insightful, and as Spock might say..."Fascinating". I must admit, I'm a Scotty fan, having built and repaired ships and subs as a shipyard machinist years ago, so I know what hardship and crap engineers have to deal with...reversing the polarity and all of that. Grew up watching the original show in the 60's, and re-runs in the 70's, movies, subsequent TV series, and I still absolutely love it! I just subscribed to your channel, so keep up the great work!
@AlanDavidDoane
@AlanDavidDoane 2 ай бұрын
Judson Scott also had a notable run on General Hospital, a show which has featured Star Trek actors going all the way back to its first episode in 1963.
@duanezetrouer6048
@duanezetrouer6048 3 ай бұрын
Great information thank you for the posting and all that you do
@caligulathegod
@caligulathegod 2 ай бұрын
In all fairness, the budget of TMP was not really as high as reported. They just rolled in all the development costs of the Star Trek Phase 2 into the budget.
@huesaturationintensity
@huesaturationintensity 2 ай бұрын
The term, "Script Girl" has been replaced with, "Script Supervisor". However "Best Boy" is still in use today.
@Daniel-Strain
@Daniel-Strain 3 ай бұрын
I have to say, Roddenberry's inputs on ST2 were very good. The mix of Bennett and Roddenberry's inclinations seems to have been a very good balance together.
@roberthoey8944
@roberthoey8944 3 ай бұрын
Well done ..absolutely brilliant .. you have done unbelievable research ..keep the videos coming ...live long and prosper trek culture
@LWolf12
@LWolf12 2 ай бұрын
I can understand Rodenberry not liking his stuff changed, but Star Fleet is more or less a space Navy, it's already militaristic at its core.
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 3 ай бұрын
Lol, The Motion Sickness.
@stevenewman1393
@stevenewman1393 2 ай бұрын
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on and about the 120 things you didn't know about all the various 6 different Star Trek Movies indeed Sir!👌.
@XanBos
@XanBos 3 ай бұрын
The original cast series and movies are most endearing to me. What has always puzzled me is the constant concern over the budget, in not only the tv series, but the movies as well. This continued thorn in the side of the franchise led to many of the films becoming the masterpiece they should have become. I would also venture to say that having inter office grumblings between Roddenberry and other creatives, ruined what could have been better movies. But my biggest beef is with those who truly feel that the Star Trek franchise is not worth the effort to have put all their eggs in one basket, to create a good storyline, good FX, and overall great experience for the audience. The Motion Picture…what can I say…. The title didn’t even meet my expectations. And although I desperately wanted to see this movie after the cancellation of the series, I was very disappointed. The long dramatic scenes where we watch the crew looking at the cloud, just nearly made me go to sleep. It’s like no one could figure out how to write dialogue. The sterile environment they created in not only the uniforms, but the ship itself took away the once colorful look from the series. (At least hint to the colors!) The fact that Savick was not played by the same actor was just thoughtless. If the actor could not be in the film, neither should the character. I mean would they have done that with Spock? So while I adore the original cast movies for the sake of seeing the original actors, I truly am dismayed at the mindset of the execs and their only interest in making money, without any thought of story, plot, and all around care for the fans. If the powers that be want to keep the franchise alive, do what’s right, and the money will be there. Trust the process, not your pockets.
@danom3572
@danom3572 3 ай бұрын
Always remembered the happy meal boxes! Loved it
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 3 ай бұрын
In one of the novels featuring Saavik, her emotional outbursts and seemingly unvulcan character notes are attributed to both her half Romulan heritage as well as a desperate and feral childhood spent surviving the wild outskirts of The Galactic Planet of Peace, the same planet that is featured in the first act of Star Trek V.
@DaNinja60
@DaNinja60 2 ай бұрын
I hated that they replaced her from Christy Alley (wrong spelling I'm sure) then took away her emotions. Not only a tear at Spock's funeral but in the novel she had feelings for David. She cried when he was killed but was emotionally dead in the movie when she reported his death to Kirk.
@kevinryan9796
@kevinryan9796 2 ай бұрын
You state the DeForrest Kelley's last appearance in the Star Trek Franchise was Star Trek 6 The Undiscovered Country. What about his cameo in the first episode of Next Generation with Data getting a tour of the Enterprise D?
@markwilson5857
@markwilson5857 2 ай бұрын
Encounter at Farpoint aired before the release of Star Trek VI.
@Cmdr1962
@Cmdr1962 2 ай бұрын
I'm sure I've watched parts of this, but my memory sucks, so it's all new to me. You somehow found fun factoids I did not know after a lifetime of fandom. Thank you for putting it all together!
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 3 ай бұрын
The tag line, "A 23rd Century Odyssey Now" is in desperate need of a comma before the "now".
@peterpayne2219
@peterpayne2219 2 ай бұрын
Love this long video, downloading to watch (listen to) on my phone while out and about
@donbrynelsen2157
@donbrynelsen2157 3 ай бұрын
Disney should be trying to protect lives? People we're talking about a megacorpation that actively covers up guest and employee injuries and deaths, often paying off witnesses, comping families, has strict tales that forbid aid to be rendered to costumed characters that keel over from heatstroke or some other medical emergency, (For example, removing the head in sight of the public or summoning EMTs) until said cast members are toted off to a backstage area where they then can be treated (Providing they're still alive, and if they're not, they're taken off the property before the coroner gets called so Disney can say the poor soul didn't die in the park. Disney is also notorious for censoring such incidents in the media in the name of preserving the company image.. Respectful of human life? Only if it doesn't affect the bottom line.
@sarahyoung646
@sarahyoung646 Ай бұрын
This is a fabulous piece, thank you! I do feel a need to note that one quarter of the previous budget is 75% less, not 400% less. That's just my brain being itchy on the point, though, I see how much work you put into this and I appreciate it!
@robertbernabo4781
@robertbernabo4781 Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video, I am a massive Trekkie and I learned a LOT of things I never knew. I compliment your do dilligence and research.
@ttintagel
@ttintagel 2 ай бұрын
Flashing back to seeing Star Trek VI in the cinema. I was recovering from minor surgery and nursing a lingering fever, so I really shouldn't have been out and about, but there was no way I was going to miss the chance to see it on the big screen. We had to drive an hour to the nearest big city to see it as it wasn't playing at the local mall. Good memories.
@neilsanghvi5229
@neilsanghvi5229 2 ай бұрын
59:47: Loved the edit making it look as if Scott was pointing out his lack of credits to a sceptical Montalban
@boostergold9160
@boostergold9160 2 ай бұрын
I don't know why people hated on Star Trek the Motion Picture... I remember begging my mom to take me to see this film at the Mann Chinese Theater in Hollywood, CA. You can imagine my excitement when she did. The most startling thing I remember was the big update to the uniforms, the update to the starship and the architecture inside the ship. If you think about it, the uniforms in this film are still the best looking futuristic uniforms and they hold up even to this day beating out... Star Trek The Original, Star Trek Next Gen, Star Trek 2009 and so on... but this is just my opinion. Overall, I loved Star Trek The motion picture.
@mjc4942
@mjc4942 2 ай бұрын
I find it interesting and funny how many actors keep coming back around. Hadn't noticed the actor that played admiral Cartwright also played Mr Sisko.
@looneyburgmusic
@looneyburgmusic 2 ай бұрын
I've never understood why people hate on Trek V so much... While not a "perfect" Trek film it wasn't horrible either, and actually was a decent stab at doing a "human-centric" story that Trek does so well, and is so famous for. I also can recall a friend of mine actually saying that he saw Trek V as a two-part TV episode, and he thought the character moments between Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Spock and Sybok came off really well.
@lillyanneserrelio2187
@lillyanneserrelio2187 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding video. I regret i can only like and upvote it just once 👍
@lastguyminn2324
@lastguyminn2324 3 ай бұрын
Jane Wiedlin was NOT the lead singer of the Go-Go's, she was a background vocalist and rhythm guitarist. And the band really wasn't punk...they were more new wave and pop.
@ThatJohnKillion1970
@ThatJohnKillion1970 3 ай бұрын
There's a fan theory that the Doomsday Machine was responsible for Ceti Alpha V & VI.
@TheCryptoKeeper
@TheCryptoKeeper 4 күн бұрын
And that Will Decker went insane and Vger imprisoned him at the center of the Galaxy beyond the great barrier
@prince_nocturne
@prince_nocturne 2 ай бұрын
1:37:36 Fun fact with the USS Ranger. My uncle was stationed on that ship only a few years earlier. So if he had renewed his contract and served another term, he could have been an extra in the movie.
@MrMissingReel
@MrMissingReel 2 ай бұрын
I saw this back in 1979....but I don't remember a lot, because I fell asleep 😂
@johntrench
@johntrench 2 ай бұрын
I remember seeing the movie when it was released. I had watched the original television series as a child, and was an early super fan, although never quite reaching the level of being a “Trekkie”. While I enjoyed the movie and found the visuals very impressive, I had a league feeling of letdown at the end. My appreciation of that first film has grown since that first viewing, however, and I have since come to the realization that my letdown feeling was due to how long it had been since the end of the original television series, and I think that no matter what script they would have written and produced, I would have had the same response, merely because that interval between the cancellation of the television series and the release of the first movie, which I had hoped for during all of those years, had built up a level of anticipation that no movie could possibly meet it. My perspective has changed over the years and subsequent viewings, and it I find it quite enjoyable and satisfying today. One personal note: I find the uniforms of the first motion picture far superior to the “swashbuckler” uniforms of the subsequent films. They are cleaner, simpler, and in my personal opinion more impressive in an understated way. The military elements included in the Star Trek “universe” do not seem out of place to me at all. First, a well delineated command structure would be essential to allow Star Fleet and its ships and missions to function, and defaulting to the already well developed and functional command and rank structure would seem (with apologies to Mr. Spock) logical. Second, exploring the vast reaches of space would involve an almost unimaginable number of potentially dangerous and deadly unknowns, so arming the vessels to be able to respond to and, if need be, as many different threats, dangers, and situations as possible. In addition, the original television series had already established the existence of an existential threat to the entire Federation, including of course the Earth, in the form of the aggressively militaristic Romulans, so it is equally logical, indeed it is essential, that many of the Federation starships would be fully equipped to be able to engage in full-fledged combat. Mr. Roddenberry’s more utopian views and desires for the nascent Star Trek franchise, and in particular the Earth, while admirable, were simply unrealistic, even within the context of the internal logic of this fictional universe. Infusing as much reality as possible into the fictional universe of any franchise is essential to facilitate the suspension of disbelief necessary to permit viewers to become fully immersed in the story.
@primmoore6232
@primmoore6232 3 ай бұрын
DeForest Kelly (Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy) referred to it as "Star Trek Zero."
@khallo151
@khallo151 2 ай бұрын
Blish was the author of the first ST books I read, back when I was a kid digging through my grandparents attic.
@martinwestern3334
@martinwestern3334 3 ай бұрын
I have always loved the Motion Picture but will admit that I prefer the Directors Cut over the Theatrical
@gailseatonhumbert
@gailseatonhumbert 3 ай бұрын
Loved the whole review (although I must say it took me awhile to get through the whole video.
@dcolb121
@dcolb121 2 ай бұрын
9:44 V'Gr does not knock things "out of existence". It breaks it down and reassembles it inside itself, similar to what a transporter does. A transporter breaks things down and beams them to a set location to reassemble them there. It "records" everything for future reference.
2 ай бұрын
Zenu called Alley home to his Volcano lol
@leandar
@leandar 2 ай бұрын
One thing that doesn't get mentioned a lot is the money spent on all the canceled projects were tacked on to the budget for TMP, and that's really what put it over $44 million. With just the cost of the movie, it's probably about $10-$15 million less than that. Maybe more.
@JennyEverywhere
@JennyEverywhere 2 ай бұрын
Star Trek V's director, Bill "Stop Him Before He Directs Again" Shatner, was satirized, along with Spock, McCoy, and Sulu, in Peter David's issue #64 of the comic series "Dreadstar". The issue, entitled "Franchise And Empire", co-starred the crew of the original Enterprise, but as non-human aliens in very similar characters. The Captain, was called _Tibrus,_ a reference to Kirk's middle name, Tiberius. But the Spock analogue (Spork? Spink? I forget...) referred to Tibrus as "Director Five". This was not explained in the comic book that I recall, but was a clear dig at Shatner's film direction of "The Final Frontier". I vastly approve of Tibrus in Dreadstar far more than I approved of The Shat directing the fifth movie.
@askhams
@askhams 2 ай бұрын
Circa 34:00 onwards: You don't mean 400 percent less, you mean 75 percent less
@KaitainCPS
@KaitainCPS 2 ай бұрын
Quick aside on "Star Trek: Phase 2" At least three of the characters developed for STP2 would end up being re-used (and re-named) in Star Trek: The Next Generation. Ilea, the alien empath, would be reconceived as Counsellor Troi Commander Decker, the handsome younger First Officer, would be reconceived as Commander Riker Xon, the young Vulcan science officer always trying to understand humans better, would be reconceived as Lt Commander Data Xon is the only one of the three STP2 characters not to appear in ST:TMP, and his closest equivalent would be Commander Sonak, the Enterprise's new young Vulcan science officer. By the end of the movie, all three have been killed or assimilated: Sonak in the transporter accident, Ilea assimilated by V'Ger, and Decker forming part of the new man-machine hybrid with V'Ger.
@setlik3gaming80
@setlik3gaming80 2 ай бұрын
New subscriber Excellent analysis 🖖🏽 I attended my first Star Trek Convention in 1974.
@katherineberger6329
@katherineberger6329 2 ай бұрын
Quick correction on USS Ranger: Ranger was decommissioned in 1993 and stored until 2015. She was on donation hold throughout the 1990s and early 2000s but was eventually taken off because she was deteriorating at anchor past the point where she would make any level of attractive acquisition for a museum. She was designated for scrapping in 2012, scrapping started in 2015, and she was gone by the end of 2017. Paramount used USS Ranger, based on the West Coast at the time, as a stand-in for Enterprise twice in 1986: Once for Star Trek and once for Top Gun.
@lillyanneserrelio2187
@lillyanneserrelio2187 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. A well deserved 👍
@davidfinch7407
@davidfinch7407 3 ай бұрын
This was a box office smash because we were starved for Star Trek...Starved Trek, if you will. No, it wasn't a good movie, although I loved the first five minutes (the Klingon battle). But just to see the old gang together on screen again was worth the price of admission.
@jeffkardosjr.3825
@jeffkardosjr.3825 2 ай бұрын
1:14:20 Sure he isn't most recognized for playing Castillo on Miami Vice?
@barral69
@barral69 19 күн бұрын
1:57:00 I'm all about no armrest! I sit on my legs more often than not and a chair with armrest is uncomfortable for me. lol
@Valjurai
@Valjurai 2 ай бұрын
I was at a Shakespeare play in Klingon some years back in Arlington VA and, yeah, Takei came out for the last bit. =) Ironically, perhaps, the theatre, from the outside, looks a bit like an Ion cannon from Hoth
@Bazzer-zu7fu
@Bazzer-zu7fu 3 ай бұрын
Relating to you not having the info. I learned this from Mark Thomas. If you buy 1 share in Paramount, even if it's only a quid, the have to grant you access to their past and present accounts for your investment interests. Doesn't look like they'll have Trek for long anyway. So once those accounts go public they'll be sued back into bankruptcy you can buy the whole company for 10 pence and a hand job
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