Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Lower Decks 3.6 - Hear All, Trust Nothing

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@jsly621
@jsly621 2 жыл бұрын
I skipped my first karate class (which my parents had just shelled out good money for) and snuck back home to watch the premiere of DS9. And that, kids, is why I am watching Star Trek commentary videos and not a navy seal.
@whatthefish2082
@whatthefish2082 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, I watched this episode at work (teaching karate) between classes today
@shamsham1229
@shamsham1229 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty good deal.
@doctorroboto5018
@doctorroboto5018 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent trade.
@thomasdang6322
@thomasdang6322 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@dhotnessmcawesome9747
@dhotnessmcawesome9747 2 жыл бұрын
Oh now... Is tha the ONLY reason?
@thomaslarson459
@thomaslarson459 2 жыл бұрын
"I have principles!" "No you don't!" That had me in stitches.
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 2 жыл бұрын
That was hilarious! Too good for words!
@FreihEitner
@FreihEitner 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how when The Ceritos was flying around the pylons they played virtually the entire DS9 theme, then they continued flying around and the theme started up again.
@QuintusAntonious
@QuintusAntonious 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at that part. I had to pause for a second.
@ttwopercent
@ttwopercent 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard, and might I say love all the Star Trek theme songs, but DS9 is my favorite. I could listen to that on loop. 😀
@mahamotitactical
@mahamotitactical 2 жыл бұрын
That was 100% the best Lower Decks joke ever, and it's not even close.
@willmfrank
@willmfrank 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing that would have made it funnier is if Ransom had begun humming the theme: "Just keep circling...Ba-ba-ba bomm..."
@tenjenk
@tenjenk 2 жыл бұрын
the pilots reactions during that scene is what got me, she was so unsure of the whole thing
@Madonkadonk
@Madonkadonk 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite parts of the episode is when jennifer's friends were asking if Boimler was single cause it proved 3 things: 1. That Boimler is a ladies man 2. That Boimler has no idea he is a ladies man 3. That Mariner cannot deal with the fact that Boimler is a ladies man
@timothys5235
@timothys5235 2 жыл бұрын
Seen previously on the raisin vineyard.
@todd-bomb9853
@todd-bomb9853 2 жыл бұрын
And they didnt mention that in their review. Side bar Mariners glass had no end, it completely consume that entire decanter of green juice.
@MJosephB
@MJosephB 2 жыл бұрын
@@todd-bomb9853 having grown up around a lot of liquor bottles and decanters (not a drinker myself) some bottles deceptively hold less “liquid” than you would think while some glasses can hold a surprising amount of “liquid” 😂😂😂
@karencarter18042
@karencarter18042 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothys5235 That one you could say is cause he is the vineyard's heir so maybe not showing he is a ladies man. The fact that he did not realize the ladies are making overt sexual suggestions shows how obvious Boilmer can be when coming to women.
@silversonic1
@silversonic1 2 жыл бұрын
Boimler's kind of a question mark. When women fawned over him because they thought he was a freak, he was interested. But now we're seeing a bunch of women being attracted to him, but he's just flat out not interested. Add this to his insane luck at Quark's in spite of us all knowing Quark does rig his games if he feels the loss is too close to his bottom line. The idea that his establishment essentially was opperating legitimately is probably the absolute oddest thing about the episode. In other words, something odd is going on with Boimler.
@jgvillan01
@jgvillan01 2 жыл бұрын
I love the moment when Kira Nerys was looking out of the commander's office, overlooking the Worm Hole. I like to think that she is thinking (and missing) her friend and Captain, Ben Sisko.
@Heymrk
@Heymrk 2 жыл бұрын
And her Emissary.
@rachelnesser9223
@rachelnesser9223 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Though I'd like to think Kira was also thinking about Odo in that moment. 🥺🙂❤🧡💛
@ScottGammans
@ScottGammans 2 жыл бұрын
Not ashamed to admit, I got teary-eyed watching Kira at that moment.
@Nergalsama01
@Nergalsama01 2 жыл бұрын
And they convey all this without even saying the name. The show, when it gets the opportunity, can be really good with these little understated moments that still get their meaning across. Ben got namedropped last week, but this week it wasn't even necessary. :)
@chanandler_bong
@chanandler_bong 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that this didn’t get mentioned. It was a wonderfully poignant moment.
@EJA1969
@EJA1969 2 жыл бұрын
In an interview I heard, Mike McMahon implied that it is a strain on the budget to bring back legacy characters, so I want to give the producers big thanks for springing for two of them for this episode. It just wouldn't have worked nearly as well with only one.
@stevenmcmullan409
@stevenmcmullan409 2 жыл бұрын
Morn sounded just as I remembered him.
@adamwhite2364
@adamwhite2364 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmcmullan409 But of course he talked everybody's ears off, as usual
@Zensunniful
@Zensunniful 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think they work for scale. Lol!
@jonathonwhitington402
@jonathonwhitington402 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmcmullan409 wish they would have muted him though. Gah! He just keeps yakking!
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathonwhitington402 I felt bad for the poor subtitlers; their fingers must've been bleeding...
@darklordofsword
@darklordofsword 2 жыл бұрын
So something interesting; Mesk is Worf. No, really. He's an alien raised by humans on Earth, whose primary interaction with his heritage is basically the fictional novel equivelent, and there's a clash when he runs into the real deal. He's an Orion version of Worf
@everettbruckerhoff6029
@everettbruckerhoff6029 2 жыл бұрын
this is true
@apok1980
@apok1980 2 жыл бұрын
Side note, I never really thought about it until now. But white it’s the 24th century, Worf still grew up in Russia. Interesting, and weird. Imagine Worf insisting on the good parts of The Soviet Union
@bosslca9630
@bosslca9630 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you got that reading too. The instant I realized it I was begging for Worf to make a cameo to hammer home that Trope/Aesop.
@roberthunter5059
@roberthunter5059 2 жыл бұрын
He was raised on Gault, at least primarily. When he tells Jadzia the story of killing another kid in the soccer game as a teen, he set the story as still being on Gault.
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 2 жыл бұрын
@Tin Watchman There's one big cavaet; when we first saw Worf, he was a LT with some more time/living under his belt. He presumably had more time to actually learn, to spend on the holodeck practicing, etc- as a brash, seemingly just out of the Academy ensign, there's a good chance his skill level would be equivalent to Mesk. (Also, the skills Worf wanted - seemling fighting with a Bat'leth, cuz he sure as shit seemed completely out of his depth when dealing with Klingons otherwise for the first few seasons of TNG - were probably less frowned upon than "pirating it up". Seriously, looking up "how to hijack a starship" would probably throw up a few red flags.)
@finaldarkfire
@finaldarkfire 2 жыл бұрын
18:05 Related detail: Kira making use of a baseball analogy ("It's not Starfleet command if they don't throw us a few curveballs.") Another nice little detail showing that Kira is taking after Sisko.
@daviestewart2510
@daviestewart2510 2 жыл бұрын
This has to be without doubt, the definitive episode of Lower Decks, I was in nostalgic heaven!
@2727rogers
@2727rogers 2 жыл бұрын
DS-9 is my favorite Trek show and when that theme music played I got a little teary eyed.
@Gambit2051
@Gambit2051 2 жыл бұрын
Wej Duj remains THE definitive episode for me...I am thrilled to have soooooo many in contention though. LOVE this show sooooo much.
@KhaosAdmiral
@KhaosAdmiral 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gambit2051 I'd agree with that statement, mostly because Wej Duj is just everything I could ever want from Trek and then some wrapped in a neat 22 minute episode.
@JasonBoyce
@JasonBoyce 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely feel like this was the ‘best’ episode of the show so far. Absolutely loved it
@Gambit2051
@Gambit2051 2 жыл бұрын
@@KhaosAdmiral It really is THE Definitive Episode of the show...that does not mean it is the BEST Episode. Definitive does not mean Best...usually just among the best lol
@BritishAdam
@BritishAdam 2 жыл бұрын
Armin Shimerman & Nana Visitor just slipped into their characters so perfectly and so immediately. They both seemed to really enjoy the opportunity to become Kira & Quark again. I hope this sets up more opportunities for them, and DS9 as a whole, given it is meant to be an important location & trading hub!
@lovipoekimo176
@lovipoekimo176 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair they had a bit of practice when they lent their voices for Star Trek Online.
@_WillCAD_
@_WillCAD_ 2 жыл бұрын
I love that Armin can still do that high-pitched Quark scream.
@grumpus_hominidae
@grumpus_hominidae 2 жыл бұрын
I seriously wish and continue to hope that the Star Trek upper echelon decide to bring back DS9. It'd be so easy to pick up right after "what we leave behind" and see where everyone is and how their lives have changed/stayed the same. I'd love to see O'Brien, Bashir, Kira, and Quark again, all involved with a whole new cast of people on the station. Le sigh...
@frankfuller975
@frankfuller975 2 жыл бұрын
@@_WillCAD_ The Quark scream happens at least twice in Trek Online's Gamma Quadrant arc, and is wonderful to hear. :)
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that I liiked about Armin's performance in this episode was that sometime it sounded a lot like he was recorded his lines while wearing his fake Ferengi teeth. There was just enough slurring and slight distortion in his speech to make think that.
@rossdax47
@rossdax47 2 жыл бұрын
Ds9 holds an incredibly special place in my heart. This was MY show as a teenager. Dad had TOS, my sister claimed TNG, and I had Ds9 all to myself. When my kiddos came Of Trek Age, my sons didn't take to it. But my daughter, Kate, fell in love. We've watched all the series and movies from start to finish. And, to my delight, Ds9 is also her favorite for so many reasons. She is Kira and Dax rolled into one, with the raw determination of a 15-year old Jem'Hadar to keep me on my toes. Tonight's episode of Lower Decks hit my heart in a way I could not have possibly expected. There we were, cuddled up on the couch, and when that Ds9 theme started, we both cheered. Kate leaned over and had the biggest smile. We both realized at the same time that THIS was our favorite Star Trek series and characters getting a new story. A brand new, fresh story that would we could both experience and enjoy for the first time, together. It was such an incredible moment as a life long fan and a Trek dad. I wasn't crying, there was just a lot of dust in the the docking bay. It hasn't been used in a while, after all... Thank you, Lower Decks, for this incredible gift to the Ds9 fans that have been waiting so long to catch up with Quark, Kira, and even Morn.
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd 2 жыл бұрын
That's so sweet! I really feel your joy 🤗 I've only recently been able to share my ST love with one of my kids (the youngest is about to turn 26, so maybe I shouldn't call them kids anymore. But where did all that time go!?) because they were all too young to take to Voyager even. He's currently been doing watch-throughs with his friends online. They started with TOS and are now about ⅔ through Voyager. I can't really watch it with him (don't want to tread on his toes!) but we do talk about the episodes after. The one thing I was able to have a "mummy/son" bonding thing (we used to joke about it and he really loved being able to switch off from schoolwork and cuddle up with me 💓) over was motorbike racing with my eldest. Even as a teen he'd happily come into my bedroom and we'd sit on the bed watching the various series of racing. Needless to say he became a biker, but he's in it for the love of the bike, it's not a gang thing. Funnily enough, my eldest daughter (#2 lol) has some kids and whenever they come to stay, I try to have some racing (cars & bikes) recorded so we can sit on the bed together and make all the tyre-screeching noises as we "go round corners", lean forward on braking and get pinned back onto the pillows on accelerating! That's not ST sharing, but it's still sharing a passion with the grandkids, so I really get how much joy you both get from your sharing of your ST passion with your darling daughter. Reading your post, I was swept back about 15 years or more in an instant. I'm still glad to have the ability to sort of share ST with my son (he's #3. Just like me lol), especially because he's on the Asperger's spectrum and only shares what _he_ wants to. He's basically been an awkward teenager all his life lol. Our first bond was over music, but now - though "second hand", it's Star Trek. It means a lot to me. I hope you have many, many more happy sharing days with your daughter. You've got a lot of new series to go through! And should you run out, Babylon 5 is your next best bet. There's talk of it being remade! Btw, my youngest daughter is Catherine, aka Kate & Katy when she was little (she then insisted on Cat and it stuck). It's no coincidence that she was born in '96 and got that name ;)
@ttwopercent
@ttwopercent 2 жыл бұрын
Just remind your kids there would be no cell phones or tablets without Star Trek. Example: the Motorola symbol. Oh and transparent aluminum exists.
@rossdax47
@rossdax47 2 жыл бұрын
​@@y_fam_goeglyd What a fantastic story, thank you for sharing! Regardless of what it is (Star Trek is, of course, at the top of the list...), but finding that passion to share with the kiddos is really the joy of parenting. At least for me, it has been. For our oldest son, it was gaming. For our youngest, it has been Scouts. For middle daughter, Trek. :) So glad you had those adrenaline filled rides on the sofa with them! Nice name choice, by the way! Kate was ALMOST a Kira. Couldn't swing the Jadzia vote, and I think that scarred my (then) non-Trekkie wife off the Trek name theme. We do have a Will(iam T. Riker) for the first born, though! We were huge Lost fans at the time (series finale hadn't happened), so we sci-fi'd Kate in there instead of Kira.
@todd-bomb9853
@todd-bomb9853 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite episode so far. Seeing Tendi unleash her inner badass was awesome
@JasonBoyce
@JasonBoyce 2 жыл бұрын
Best Tendi episode by far
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve now fallen deeply in love with Tendí, dammit….!!! 😊
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 2 жыл бұрын
@@datathunderstorm Took you long enough. Although Mariner will always be my golden girl! (Jennifer, sod off!)
@QuintusAntonious
@QuintusAntonious 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to put this on the record: Tendi has all the makings of an extraordinary officer. Despite starting on a comedy show, I bet we'll see her as a Captain someday. That's not to say the other junior officers aren't talented or don't have futures, but Tendi is the most clearly "going places" of the bunch.
@TheKagedd
@TheKagedd 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree with this 100%. She’s continually following a steady progression forward character wise. The vocal performance matches the same level of confidence she has now. She’s truly impressive as an officer which makes sense as to why she’s getting bridge officer training and various missions. I’m curious to see how this season intends to show Boimlers growth. He’s become more “bold”/ risky and I’m curious to see where he goes. Also Samanthan as well.
@brachiator1
@brachiator1 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree that Tendi has the makings of a potentially great officer. And she was great in this episode.
@Chiscringle
@Chiscringle 2 жыл бұрын
@Tin Watchman That might make her a good science ship captain. They don't need to go full command mode most of the time. As Janeway says in Caretaker, "It's not crunch time yet. I'll let you know when it is." I could see Tendi getting into the more familiar and easygoing command style Janeway has when she isn't in danger. Tendi's experiences this season are shaping her into that kind of captain. She's learning how to take a harder line when needed, and all she needs to do to make it into captain material is to do it BEFORE the people around her are panicking or about to die so it looks like she's the one in control rather than reacting to the situation.
@cowsagainstcapitalism347
@cowsagainstcapitalism347 2 жыл бұрын
Imma be pissed if the series finale doesn't feature a Lt. Cmdr. Tendi
@GeorgeMangrum
@GeorgeMangrum 2 жыл бұрын
Boimler as well. And Mariner if she ever applies herself.
@ShawnHCorey
@ShawnHCorey 2 жыл бұрын
Morn was the first patron in Quark's bar after it was reopened when the Federation took over. He's not a fixture; he an institute,
@TroySeward
@TroySeward 2 жыл бұрын
I almost cried when the epidode started. One of my favorite episode of Lower Decks so far. I love DS9.
@Manofsteel1701-f4r
@Manofsteel1701-f4r 2 жыл бұрын
I cried as soon as we saw deep space nine and heard that theme once again. I didn’t want this episode to end it was so perfect.
@Lokiawa
@Lokiawa 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the ol' station, seeing and hearing Nana as Kira, THEN Armin as Quark, it was very overwhelming that it all brought a tear to me eye.
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 2 жыл бұрын
Just hearing the DS9 theme again just gave me chills… WOW! great! And it went on like that with all those details.
@normanbeaulieu4204
@normanbeaulieu4204 2 жыл бұрын
I was as well. A 44 year old grown man tearing up on his couch, sitting down, watching a cartoon. I loved every minute of it
@normanbeaulieu4204
@normanbeaulieu4204 2 жыл бұрын
@@Manofsteel1701-f4r personally this episode makes me feel DS9 should come back as an animated show and it would still work
@MrJusho1
@MrJusho1 2 жыл бұрын
you missed the riker reference. he was the only person to ever get triple dabo at quarks and got a voucher
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 10 ай бұрын
I got a Tripple dabo in Star Trek Online.... You want to know how hard that is.
@Oddlogical
@Oddlogical 2 жыл бұрын
I teared up seeing DS9 on screen again with the theme! Then when Kira and Quark were there, I was laughing, crying happy tears, it was a whole thing! Such a fun episode!
@larrymiller3607
@larrymiller3607 2 жыл бұрын
Another Easter egg: when Boimler is about to play Dabo he says “Fortune favors the bold!”, which is probably a nod to the season 6 episode “Favor the Bold”.
@Heymrk
@Heymrk 2 жыл бұрын
It's from Shakespeare.
@larrymiller3607
@larrymiller3607 2 жыл бұрын
@@Heymrk of course, but also what I said
@Cyke101
@Cyke101 2 жыл бұрын
But you have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon.
@alhawki99
@alhawki99 2 жыл бұрын
Does Kirk, say it in a movie? Anyone.
@MishraArtificer
@MishraArtificer 2 жыл бұрын
@@alhawki99 Sisko mentions "fortune favors the bold" in his speech just before the battle at the end of the episode also called "Favor The Bold". Experiencing Shakespeare in the original Klingon was General Chang's joke in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
@wolfpreist
@wolfpreist 2 жыл бұрын
Quark: I have principles. Kira: No you dont. had me rolling.
@Gangerworld
@Gangerworld 2 жыл бұрын
I knew they were going to nail this DS9 episode right at the start when during Kira's introduction the paused on her just staring longingly at the wormhole... that's when I knew. These guys know what they're going.
@eoghanlacey6384
@eoghanlacey6384 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they exact same thing , it was so unexpected since LD is mostly about laughs , but that stare out the window was just so simple and beautiful
@TheMsLourdes
@TheMsLourdes 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah There were two emotions at that window, one, there's the celestial temple and two, I wonder how SIsko is .. both emotions played so well in animated form... seriously give props to the animation team being able to pull that off!
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the third emotion would be about Odo.
@Aezetyr
@Aezetyr 2 жыл бұрын
One more thing - they mentioned that Quark's was a franchised business at that point, which legitimizes the appearance of Quark's Bar on Freecloud, showed during the episode "Stardust City Rag" during S1 of ST:Picard, and I think an earlier episode of Lower Decks.
@jasonjimerson7046
@jasonjimerson7046 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when Shacks said that description about DS9 out loud. 🤣 I was looking forward to this episode and was not disappointed. 👍
@mattflammger4396
@mattflammger4396 2 жыл бұрын
I did too, I had to rewind it at least a couple of times because it was so funny!
@EJA1969
@EJA1969 2 жыл бұрын
It was funny, it was a great specific character moment for Shaxs, and it was a great worldbuilding moment, showing us how Bajorans without an intimate connection to DS9 see it.
@rmdodsonbills
@rmdodsonbills 2 жыл бұрын
It was the perfect line for that character in that moment.
@HugoFitzpatrick
@HugoFitzpatrick 2 жыл бұрын
My fav joke was Mariner saying "They call it a saloon, who are they Hemingway?" Its as if a TNG character was displaying their cultured sensibility, but with Lower Decks humour, strong joke.
@jonemeigh5588
@jonemeigh5588 2 жыл бұрын
This for me is why Lower Decks is the best of all the new Treks. It’s the only show that doesn’t crap on the legacy of all the old Treks while still being its own new thing…proving it’s possible to blaze a new trail without disrespecting the old trails. So thanks, Lower Decks creators!
@edkwon
@edkwon 2 жыл бұрын
Was thrilled to hear Nana & Armin resume their roles like they never left 👍🏼
@apophis40123
@apophis40123 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed, I giggled, I swooned, I squeed, I even had happy tears. Lower Decks...thank you so much.👏👏👏👏👏👏
@apok1980
@apok1980 2 жыл бұрын
I was already a huge fan of Lower Decks, but I lost my marbles with this episode. That was the best episode ever. I might have started Star Trek with TNG, but DS9 was always my Star Trek. I always had a huge crush on Nana Visitor, especially those mirror universe episodes. So I was happy for her to return even in voice.
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 2 жыл бұрын
I’m the DS9 fan who blares out the theme to DS9 on the stereo while driving home from work almost every day….😂👍🏾
@susansokoloski2233
@susansokoloski2233 2 жыл бұрын
You gave a down to the Kobayashi "Maroon" but you laughed so much explaining why that you turned it into an up for me! Way to go Sean! Such a great episode 🙂👍🏼🖖
@TheKagedd
@TheKagedd 2 жыл бұрын
I was stopped in my tracks by the episode title “Hear all, trust nothing.” Because this rule of acquisition was first spoken on screen & in cannon as a conversation between Sisko & Nog and to have Armin deliver a rule as the closing line of the episode just felt cathartic as heck. Great video folx!
@adrianpallis4568
@adrianpallis4568 2 жыл бұрын
Love Love Love that Morn is still sitting in the bar! Latinum UP!!!!
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 2 жыл бұрын
I think he lives there, even camps out 😅
@sasukesarutobi3862
@sasukesarutobi3862 2 жыл бұрын
This was an incredible episode, and I say this as someone who was more TNG than DS9 growing up (I preferred the variety of tech and exploration in TNG; the interpersonal and ethical streak to DS9 went over my head when I was younger). I was hoping to see Bashir and Garak being space husbands, but there's still plenty of opportunity for him to appear (not least because What We Left Behind has him in Section 31). And a piece of trivia: Shimerman confirmed that he wore his original prosthetic teeth when he was recording Quark's lines.
@timprovphilly
@timprovphilly 2 жыл бұрын
I got surprisingly emotional when they came out of warp and we saw the station, then almost cried when they played the theme!
@nvrijsen
@nvrijsen 2 жыл бұрын
I got goosebumps when they played the theme. I miss DS9...
@angeluslupus
@angeluslupus 2 жыл бұрын
Additional note: Looking at the image of Tendi running just before she kicks heck out of the Karrema - I think she's doing the TAS 'Kirk run'
@rdfox76
@rdfox76 2 жыл бұрын
As an original member of the old BBS-era Cult of Morn, I did find myself doing the traditional Cult activity in this episode--the instant that he first appeared on screen, I just instinctively belted out a "MORN!" greeting like the bar always did for Norm on Cheers (who he was intended as a reference to from day one). And of COURSE Morn had no lines, because as witty as he was, as silver-tongued as he was, we never heard a word of it... because his actor couldn't *speak* while wearing the costume.
@MishraArtificer
@MishraArtificer 2 жыл бұрын
No, Morn's facial prosthetics were always designed so he could speak, if the writers ever gave him a line. They just... never did. (Morn's actor mentions it in one of the BTS featurettes on my DS9 DVDs.)
@caneighdianjake8439
@caneighdianjake8439 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the episode, as well! As a DS9 fan, I squeed with joy so many times: Kira's first appearance, the DS9 theme song along with the homage shots of the Ritos circling the starion, Quark's first apearance, Kira's "No you don't!" to Quark's comment about having principles, and Quark's "Nooo!" to Freedman's comment that he should be happy being poor instead of in prison, to name a few. I imagine with the Dominion War over, the Defiant simply got reassigned; but, you are right, it does seem the Bajorans have greater control over the running of the station. Although, it does still seem that Starfleet officers are assigned to the station as you seem them throughout the episode even though there arent any other Federation ships docked. Maybe the Federation opened a consulate or embassy on the station. They might no longer be in control of the station, or operating it for, and at the invitation of, Bajor, but they do seem to have a continued presence. I really liked seeing the all Bajoran militia Ops crew. It shows how Bajor has grown and matured over the years. Kudos for showing its development and evolution instead of just keeping to the previous status quo. It might be just me and my love of puns, but I was willing to forgive the Kobayashi Maru... I mean, the Kobayasbi 'Maroon' and the comment "Theres no wrong way to dance it." At least they did more than just reference the infamous test. Hehehehe. I also loved Jeniffer's 'sadistic' mischevious side. Is it me or does it somehow realistically flesh out the pairing of her with Mariner. At least its interesting to see what it is about the other's personality that they each are attracted to. I mean, I thought that whole B plot was pretty much how Id expect a date with Mariner to go. And the selfie phaser shot of themselves as they embrace, was so cute too. Loved the episode; loved your review. Its always an added joy to watch your reviews after the episode, Sean. To you and to all your team behind the scenes, thank you very much for your hard work to make Ups & Downs possible. Here hoping for alot more love being shown to DS9 in future Trek.
@thod8820
@thod8820 2 жыл бұрын
@Tin Watchman I mean, with SPOILERS FOR THE END OF DS9, Odo seemingly either apart of or in charge or relations with the Alpha Quadrant it might have warmed up a little bit.
@khoichau8316
@khoichau8316 Жыл бұрын
It was hilarious that within seconds of Mariner phasering both herself and Jennifer unconscious... the power comes back on!
@bobito8997
@bobito8997 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that Broyk, Quark's pit boss, had a decent part in this. Though I must admit there was a lump in my throat when I was watching the episode when I realised we wouldn't be seeing Odo or Nog 😢
@FedeGCap
@FedeGCap 2 жыл бұрын
20:20 "where her hats hat has a hat, therefore your point is invalid" LOL the best name for that headpice ever🤣🤣🤣🤣
@GamerFromJump
@GamerFromJump 2 жыл бұрын
Latinum up for the return of The Mistress of Winter Constellations. The change of her voice was so great. I love that they got the sound effects of the doors and Kira’s Bajoran combadge correct after all these years.
@evenmoor
@evenmoor 2 жыл бұрын
The layered cocktail (brown on bottom, blue on top) is a Modela aperitif, which previously appeared in the DS9 episode "Dramatis Personae."
@Hentastic01
@Hentastic01 2 жыл бұрын
The actual title of this episode is an Aron Eisenberg reference as well as this rule was uttered by his character Nog in ds9 call to arms
@lukesearle1302
@lukesearle1302 Жыл бұрын
I am rewatching Lower Decks, and I find that I also have to rewatch your reviews as well. I am starting to associate your videos with Star Trek so much I can't watch one without following it up with you guys....
@jasonjulian1
@jasonjulian1 2 жыл бұрын
Despite the one down here, this episode was flawless for me. And my God,.that DS9 theme and just circling the pilons.. Goosebumps.
@Werrf1
@Werrf1 Жыл бұрын
Kira and Shaxs arguing over who had their life saved by the other the most. Just...perfection.
@Phendrena
@Phendrena 2 жыл бұрын
I am not afraid to admit that I as a 48 year old bloke cried happy to see DS9, hear the theme, see Kira & Quark. Such joy. It only made me want more DS9 though. Best episode of Lower Decks imo.
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 2 жыл бұрын
I got you beat! 62 years old and I had a lump in my throat and a tear streaming down my cheek at the sight of the Cerritos circling DS9’s pylons. A big shout out to the animators for rendering not only DS9 but The Cerritos with such amazing attention to detail……us sci-fi nerds notice and appreciate that level of professionalism…..🥲
@SwankyKitteh82
@SwankyKitteh82 2 жыл бұрын
The uniforms make more sense when you realize that they come down largely to Captain's discretion. This is why you see multiple uniforms active in an era. Especially in more recent Treks. The Captains have a pool of them to choose from.
@beyerdr
@beyerdr 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite episode so far! Nana Visitor and Armin Shimmerman back as Kira and Quark was so awesome! And by happy coincidence I've been rewatching DS9, And after I watched this "Starship Down" came up. Fun episode!
@brentgranger7856
@brentgranger7856 2 жыл бұрын
When Mariner and the girls talk about the candles consuming the oxygen in the room, it reminded me of the Enterprise episode "Shuttlepod One," which Tucker lights a candle as their oxygen supply is running out.
@angeluslupus
@angeluslupus 2 жыл бұрын
I did think Armin sounded a tiny bit 'off'. Maybe it's because he's older, but I think it might be because he didn't have Quark's Ferengi teeth in while recording his lines😁. Minuscule niggle aside, this was brilliant! A big hit of nostalgia when DS9 appeared with the theme music!
@chukwudiilozue9171
@chukwudiilozue9171 2 жыл бұрын
After decades, someone's voice could change so it could make cannonical sense.
@larrymiller3607
@larrymiller3607 2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was off a bit at times but other times he was spot on. He may have been trying to replicate the voice as much as he could without the fake teeth in place.
@QuintusAntonious
@QuintusAntonious 2 жыл бұрын
It's because he didn't have the fake teeth and prosthetics on like in the live action show, I bet.
@Bargle5
@Bargle5 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that struck me as well. I'm wondering if he didn't listen to his old DS9 appearances and just got a bit off. It does happen. I remember learning that Mel Blanc had to sometimes listen to his earlier recordings to get a voice right again.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 2 жыл бұрын
My assumption as well is that he was doing his best to do Quark without having to stuff his mouth full of prosthetic teeth. I'm 100% okay with that.
@doggiehowzer
@doggiehowzer 2 жыл бұрын
When Ransom says go one more time after the credits end, and they do the opening theme ONE MORE TIME, it deserves another UP And Mesk deserves an UP for the Worf upbringing Easter egg. And Boimler with his uniform top unbuttoned is awesome. Like Picard in Tapestry
@roncoleman1859
@roncoleman1859 2 жыл бұрын
This episode is the stand out episode of the entire series so far. Like DS9 episode "In The Pale Moon Light". This may become one of my favorite episodes of any Star Trek series, truth.
@Anastas1786
@Anastas1786 Жыл бұрын
I kinda liked the "Kobayashi Maroon" pun. I also like how Shaxs and Kira spent their entire visit fighting over who owes who... because _they both wanted to be the indebted one._
@TheKrstff
@TheKrstff 2 жыл бұрын
The Latinum Up should be that Mariner went to meet Jennifer's friends for the first time, and brought a phaser.
@jeremydale4548
@jeremydale4548 2 жыл бұрын
Ok NOW I feel like that was driven by jealousy. BTW, I FREAKING LOVE JENIMER! Yes, that's the ship name I'm going with.
@TheKrstff
@TheKrstff 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremydale4548 Na, we need something more creative than just smashing their names together.
@AdamEspersona
@AdamEspersona 2 жыл бұрын
Tawny Newsome regarding this episode: “Look, I'm not proud of a lot of things in my career, but I am proud of that. Because I was right. Yeah. So [Mike] wrote the DS9 episode and he wrote it with Mariner on like a side mission or like on a different storyline. And I read it and I got really sad for myself, Tawny, because I'm a huge Deep Space Nine fan and I really wanted to play in that world. So he logged on to the Zoom and I gave him some serious shit for it. I was like, "How are you denying me this as a fan?" And he was like, "Tawny, we're making a TV show. This isn't about your wants and dreams." But I think he ultimately heard the wisdom and what I was saying. And then he did rewrite the ending for me." I thought that was neat.
@Sagitarria
@Sagitarria 2 жыл бұрын
I do feel like they denied us some mariner backstory by keeping her mostly out of the way
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sagitarria possibly saving it for a flashback? Gosh there are so many untold Mariner stories. Love Tawny, I feel so sad for her
@Sagitarria
@Sagitarria 2 жыл бұрын
@@kadosho02 yeah I figure they wanted to do some DS9 but it wasn’t time yet
@TheMsLourdes
@TheMsLourdes 2 жыл бұрын
First, Up for Tawny Newsome being badass enough to say all that, second I was totally there for Mariner/Jenny.... Marinny? Side plot. It was so refreshing to see Mariner doing something normal for her Girlfriend and then Jenny just straightup being compats by saying, I brought you along to rip into these fools, get to it, sweetie :) They are a realllly good match :)
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMsLourdes I loved their last bit…Mariner: “Shall we….”. They embraced and she stunned them both. I swear they went down smiling cheek to cheek…!! So refreshing…!!
@Zensunniful
@Zensunniful 2 жыл бұрын
I personally loved the Kobayashi Maroon, but I just love puns! DS9 is my favorite series as well and I think this episode was a fantastic one! And the fact that Tendi's side-plot and the Mariner/Jennifer side-plot were just as good as the DS9 main plot of the episode made it even better!
@jacobseal
@jacobseal 2 жыл бұрын
I also laughed at it. No problem for me.
@ChrundleTGreat
@ChrundleTGreat 2 жыл бұрын
Since DS9 is my absolute favorite Trek, I was very skeptical. It turned out to be one of my favorite episodes of Lower Decks if not my number one favorite!! The Karema, MORN, the attention to detail was great! Even the reference to Garek’s tailor shop and Nerys having Sisko’s baseball were great little details!! It actually made me tear up. Can’t wait for more DS9 focused shows in the future.
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 2 жыл бұрын
And that ball didn't only sit there - she also used it similar to how Sisko did and even made a baseball related joke.
@toonezon4836
@toonezon4836 2 жыл бұрын
omg i just JUST realized the quarks gift shop attachment is totally a covert callback to the Star Trek Experience thing, when the hilton los vegas was remodeled and themed to look like DS9, which btw i was lucky enough to visit once, it was so, so cool, i really hope they consider bringing it back, but this time maybe include some actual trek themed games, like dabo, domjot, fizbin, and tongo, and maybe the wadi game... 🎶alamoraine, count to 4, alamoraine, then 3 more...🎶 and now its stuck in your head and you are very welcome
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 2 жыл бұрын
Alamoraine…..that was cruel! Thanks for making me laugh so hard….!!! It was cringeworthy, but now it’s DS9 lore…..😅
@starfleetcaptain5413
@starfleetcaptain5413 2 жыл бұрын
Flying around in awe of the pylons had me almost choke to death laughing.
@AllCoversFan2
@AllCoversFan2 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this episode marks the 1st Star Trek show to have actors from more than two different Star Trek shows guest star as their respective characters. For Lower Decks, they've had Riker and Troi from TNG, Tom Paris from Voyager, and Kira and Quark from DS9.
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 2 жыл бұрын
This episode is a masterpiece. Start to finish, a gem. Absolutely love it
@DimebagDrl
@DimebagDrl 2 жыл бұрын
The way you said "or jenny" at 3:15 instantly reminded me of Rom taking about "RAKtageno" when he was added to the Day shift. 🤣 Also, Kira standing in her (Sisko's former) office staring at the wormhole could be a reference to her friendship with Sisko and her knowledge that's in the wormhole with the Prophets. Her gaze is thoughtful and reflectionary in that moment.
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 2 жыл бұрын
@Tin Watchman Of course, she's in Sisko's old office, and immediately goes to playing with his ball... I'm leaning towards Sisko.
@foxbomber5
@foxbomber5 2 жыл бұрын
I admit, I cried watching this episode. DS9 means so much to me, getting to see it back on the screen with actual cast members made me bawl like a baby hit by a hammer.
@AtotheZ7
@AtotheZ7 2 жыл бұрын
Huge DS9 fan but I loved Tendi's story. It progressed her character so much. I am kind of sad we got this so early because I was looking forward to the anticipation. It feels like the day after Christmas.
@jackahorey2354
@jackahorey2354 2 жыл бұрын
The caricature of Quark is amazing! Just three or four pen strokes to create an unmistakeable face. True artistic talent, that, that I'm sure is under-appreciated.
@krinagargamer8646
@krinagargamer8646 2 жыл бұрын
This was the best episode of the season and possibly of the whole show so far. I'm a huge DS9 fan and seeing Kira and Quark just took my breath away. Lower decks takes my two favorite things and puts them together. Star Trek and 1/2 hour animation. 👌👍🏼
@PattiPC1
@PattiPC1 2 жыл бұрын
Deep Space Nine is my favourite Star Trek series, so happy to see it back in some form. Brilliant to see Nana Visitor back as Colonel Kira.
@lovipoekimo176
@lovipoekimo176 2 жыл бұрын
When we learned that Shax and Kira were buddies, I had flashbacks to the horrifying deaths of Kira's old pals by that scarred Cardassian murderer.
@AMinibot
@AMinibot 2 жыл бұрын
@Tin Watchman if he'd already enlisted in starfleet by that time I feel like he'd be much harder to get at.
@casual_polaroid
@casual_polaroid 2 жыл бұрын
when I saw the station Deep Space Nine again, my heart was really pounding. I missed that station so much. And all the great angles, how that was shown. Thank you DS9 for giving me so much joy !
@Halflife2-y2m
@Halflife2-y2m 2 жыл бұрын
Once again your forensic examination of this episode is fantastic. I am somewhat disapointed that you missed the fact that Mesk was from Cincinnati, Ohio. I am from Cincinnati and it was a real kick to have it mentioned on the show! I just figured that you know where all of your fans are from and live. 😜
@Reldan
@Reldan 2 жыл бұрын
The Kobayashi "Maroon" as an interpretive dance because there's no right way to do it was, I thought, a fantastic joke. The reference does gets overused, but this was a really good use and solidly in the "up" category for me.
@enavy04
@enavy04 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Orion guy being an orphaned tryhard raised on Earth who got all of his info about culture from novels seems to be a reference to early TNG Worf. Early TNG Worf was always going on about what Klingons do and don't do.
@coreymolloy8134
@coreymolloy8134 2 жыл бұрын
Mesk being basically Orion Worf got a huge chuckle out of me this week.
@tbdf2p597
@tbdf2p597 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my! Tendi opened my eyes... and stole my heart along with that ship.
@azy83
@azy83 2 жыл бұрын
The outro theme as the ds9 theme was a nice nostalgia touch
@EddieDexterStewart
@EddieDexterStewart 2 жыл бұрын
Kira staring out of the window...Waiting for Sisko...Waiting...forever in love...for Odo. 😥💔
@rachelnesser9223
@rachelnesser9223 2 жыл бұрын
Yes -- This! All the feels.🥺🙂❤🧡💛
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 2 жыл бұрын
@@rachelnesser9223 Doubly so, given Rene's passing
@rachelnesser9223
@rachelnesser9223 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sephiroth144 Yes, definitely. Watching this DS9 episode of Lower Decks, I was missing Rene/Odo SO much!🥺🧡💛
@philtkaswahl2124
@philtkaswahl2124 2 жыл бұрын
That part with Mariner, Jennifer, and her friends was twistedly sweet, which I guess if fitting for anything Mariner is involved with.
@DasZaku
@DasZaku 2 жыл бұрын
This episode was amazing, the attention to detail and easter eggs was just too much for me and i loved every second of it.
@StockportJambo
@StockportJambo 2 жыл бұрын
I don't watch spoilers (trailers) so I had no idea they were doing this. DS9 is the best Star Trek show by a country mile (IMO, don't at me) so this was absolute heaven for me. I cried during the opening sequence when we saw the station & heard the theme, the return of Quark & Kira, and I'll even forgive the Kobyashi Maroon gag ("there's no right way to dance it"). Every frame of this episode was absolute perfection. Best episode so far.
@Aezetyr
@Aezetyr 2 жыл бұрын
This is the episode I was waiting for this season, and I am so happy that it didn't disappoint. Hearing Nana Visitor and Armin Shimerman, the DS9 theme, seeing the station (eyesore of Cardassian fascism aside), all just hit me so hard because DS9 is also *my* Trek. The story was excellent, I could tell everyone put in 100%. Boimler didn't have a lot to do but his role in the epi was perfect. If they tried to squeeze in Ezri, Bashir or even Worf it might have been too much. Kira and Quark were perfectly enough for their appearances. I wish they had a budget to do more stuff like this. I was thinking "did Mariner do a Capt. Jack Harkness and pull that phaser/tricorder... from there?"
@timothys5235
@timothys5235 2 жыл бұрын
“You really don't want to know.” ;)
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 2 жыл бұрын
Could've done a Tuvok appearance; no words, just have them walking down the hall or maybe have Bashir running a light over Quark after his return...
@tbrooke3016
@tbrooke3016 2 жыл бұрын
The flying around it joke genuinely floored me 😅😅😅😅
@christopherstephenjenksbsg4944
@christopherstephenjenksbsg4944 2 жыл бұрын
Gee Sean. I remember when Star Trek TOS premiered with "The Man Trap", and I was immediately hooked. That was close to 60 years ago! DS9 is a newcomer (but still my favorite Star Trek series).
@Jarvolo27
@Jarvolo27 2 жыл бұрын
seeing his excitement around 30 seconds in is absolutely amazing! A true fan getting to see something that causes pure excitement.
@elfenmagix8173
@elfenmagix8173 2 жыл бұрын
"It is green." Picard identified it as "Aldebron Whiskey" in the TNG episode (IIRC) "Relics" with Scotty and the Dyson Sphere.
@Heymrk
@Heymrk 2 жыл бұрын
TOS 2:22 "By Any Other Name" Scotty gets the Andromedean drunk and says, "It's green."
@alanjhargreaves
@alanjhargreaves 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched this the other day. Scotty asks Data what it is and Data responds "It is green". Picard later identifies it to Scotty (on the original Enterprise Bridge), saying "Who do you think gave it to Guinan?"
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 10 ай бұрын
It's also a funny reference in Mass Effect 2.
@species84712
@species84712 2 жыл бұрын
As a DS9 fan, I loved this ep. So good and agree that the balance was just right. I think I may have also caught another easter egg that wasn't mentioned. Enterprise Bingo from Strange New Worlds.
@JeffKraschinski1969
@JeffKraschinski1969 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t give the Kobayashi Maru an automatic down this week. The line that there is no right way to perform the dance saves it for me.
@ericpetersen6312
@ericpetersen6312 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part was when they played the DS9 theme then cut to Ransom and the navigator and he's like 'Keep circling' and they start the DS9 theme again. This was my favorite episode so far, probably because DS9 is my favorite Trek. I was also happy to see Tendi embrace her heritage and be such a badass.
@daviddeladurantayeleblanc5165
@daviddeladurantayeleblanc5165 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't saw the teaser. So when I saw DS9 I was SOOO EXCITED! It was a marvelous episode and thank you so much for your video!
@Gilhelmi
@Gilhelmi 2 жыл бұрын
I avoid the teasers just for that reason. Gets me more hyped up by trying to desperately avoid them.
@MrAtarine
@MrAtarine 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only KZbin show ive ever watched where i love watching the episodes before i watch you go through your stuff to see what you saw or liked.
@xedalpha1
@xedalpha1 2 жыл бұрын
The fact we got effectively got a QUARK EPISODE 20 years later just gave me life
@RandyContello
@RandyContello 2 жыл бұрын
THE HORNS the theme - omg my ears where in pure joy
@whatthefish2082
@whatthefish2082 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to propose a down: The fact that we didn’t see Vic Fontaine. It would’ve been possible since James Darren is still alive and kicking. It was especially frustrating since we heard the “casino jazz” while Boimler was playing Dabo.
@Heymrk
@Heymrk 2 жыл бұрын
He's had two strokes and can barely speak now.
@MishraArtificer
@MishraArtificer 2 жыл бұрын
@@Heymrk I did NOT know this. Oh, James, you poor man...
@markadams458
@markadams458 2 жыл бұрын
ooohhhh. Sean, I think lower decks is just outrageously brilliant. I love your ups and downs. This is easily the best episode yet. Keep up the amazing work.
@tannerhall5784
@tannerhall5784 2 жыл бұрын
This episode made me so happy! It makes me wonder what they have in store for the season finale, because this is gonna be hard to beat!!
@normanbeaulieu4204
@normanbeaulieu4204 2 жыл бұрын
I so fanboyed out at this episode. Loved loved loved it. I loved the Easter Eggs and the nod to Jake Sisco off camera. Loved it all
@AdmiralBlackstar
@AdmiralBlackstar 2 жыл бұрын
Jennifer-Mariner is my new favorite Star Trek relationship. They are so effing adorable.
@michaelt.lancaster9776
@michaelt.lancaster9776 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic that I watched the episode, "What You Leave Behind" yesterday! This is what I consider a bonus episode!
@EllieBassetHound
@EllieBassetHound 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode of the lower decks!!! They have all been good, but this is really great. Great Ups and Downs this week Sean. Thanks for Trek Culture for continued support.
@ShovelingJedi
@ShovelingJedi 2 жыл бұрын
I never had a notification 🥺😞😢😭😭😭😑 ...But Squee Moments: DS9! Kira & Quark!! Tendi as "Mistress of the Winter Constellations" Pirate Princess!!! Kris' masterful Editing!!! AND Seán rocking the DSNiners Cap!!! SQUEEEEE😁
@jasonwolf3591
@jasonwolf3591 2 жыл бұрын
The Kobayashi Maroon was a real groaner but overall, great episode. I am surprised there wasn't a Vic Fontaine reference.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 2 жыл бұрын
I'm giving your down a down because that dance was hilarious!
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