trekyards EP43 - Galaxy X / Galaxy Class Refit

[@phoenix1985]

The Galaxy-I class was the one we saw in TNG. The Galaxy-II class was a refit for the Dominion War which featured additional phaser arrays on top of the warp nacelles in addition to most of the internal scientific equipment being removed to increase power efficiency & make more room for troops, additional torpedo storage, & other things needed for the war effort. The Galaxy-III is the one we saw in TNG:AGT.

[@HarperStl]

I like to think that should it have been needed, we could have seen early Galaxy III models if the Dominion War went on. Maybe not as powerful as the All Good Things wiping out Negh'Vars with ease, but a definite step up in firepower to try and bring it in line with the Sovvie.

[@Hapokas112]

@@HarperStl Interesting.

[@keefh6897]

I agree dude, I remember an episode where the D got the upgrade during the tng run but no idea which one.

[@Shadx27]

"I will draw their attention." Blows up one of them. "That should do it."

[@Limonenwolf]

The pictures starting at 13:40 and 15:35 are made by me. Just letting you know because you said you had no idea where the second image is from. Nice to see my images are still floating around the net :) The 3D model is a publicly available one made by Prologic 9 on the foundation3d forums.

[@Trekyardswebseries]

Thanks for letting us know. Do you have any other images on a website or something for people to enjoy?

[@Limonenwolf]

+Trekyards I can dig through my files theres some stuff i rendered over the last years. I dont have a page to present stuff tho. But i could render out an image or two for future stuff you post here. If you are interested just let me know.

[@Trekyardswebseries]

+Lemon Wolf Beautiful work thank you!

[@kadindarklord]

Just to back your point up, if you turn the image at 25:41. It does look like the top of a Phaser Rifle. (I looked at it by turning my head)

[@poseidon5003]

Right on.

[@JasonCliftJones]

The Galaxy II at around 5:30; look up the USS Venture from DS9 It's canon. :) Also, Eun-taunt would be closer. It's French, means friendship. See the Triple Entente in the lead up to WW1.

[@Ebeneezergoode1]

Jason Clift-Jones Ah you beat me to it! I'm too lazy for a Tippler slingshot. You win this time....

[@ustrekkie92]

I loved this ship when it came on the screen when I was watching the finale as a kid. It was so different and provided the centerpiece for the possible future that All Good Things...presented. The ship definitely looked cool and powerful in contrast to the original Galaxy class. TREKYARDS should do the SOVEREIGN CLASS Starship next!!!

[@hawkstringfellow]

I love the design, built for combat looks like it can go toe too toe with the dominion

[@morkofork]

Entente is a French word and is pronounced 'on-tont', it means a type of diplomatic 'agreement' that if one of the countries is attacked the other signatories will assist.

[@radeadcool]

FUN FACT. THE BEST SELLING SHIP IN STAR TREK ONLINE (OF ALL TIME) IS THE GALAXY -X!

[@radeadcool]

The ship is also a Dreadnought in star trek Online.

[@Hapokas112]

@@radeadcool Cool.

[@theharbingerofconflation]

It’s cause it’s got the best values in the store

[@vincentseth7960]

dont know if you guys gives a damn but if you are stoned like me during the covid times you can watch all the latest series on InstaFlixxer. Have been streaming with my brother for the last weeks =)

[@tatumdeshawn4237]

@Vincent Seth Definitely, I've been using instaflixxer for months myself :)

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍A very nicely well done job and very informatively executed and explained indeed 👌.

[@bruce_adams]

Hi, new here. Regarding the Galaxy X from online (timestamp 26:00), it almost looks as if the saucer is "undermounted" to the neck. The curve of the structure on top of the rear saucer is reminiscent of the attachment point that fits into a slot on the underside of the standard Galaxy class saucer. Not saying it is ... just kind of looks like it. Enjoying your channel, guys!

[@ChrissonatorOFL]

I gotta say the remastered FX shots from this episode are amazing. Certainly a lot more punch to them.

[@danielhenzphotography]

the Galaxy II Class is also known as the Venture-Type as seen in "The way of the Warrior"

[@ZagreusProductions]

The Galaxy II has the updated nacelles as it was updated for the Dominion War. On the model version of the USS Venture, two additional phasers were added to the tops of the nacelles, but they were later removed in the CGI version. I also believe the fins are to seperate the phaser banks, as there are two sets on the pylons (Well, it most CGI models there are) Nice look at the Galaxy X class

[@CrazyChemistPL]

This actually makes perfect sense for these new elements to be so jarring. After all it was time of great need so the Federation had to upgun and upgrade everything as fast as possible, so there wasn't time to make it pretty. Functional and doable was good enough. Blended with elegant and considerate lines of the original Galaxy it surely creates a dissonance, but reasonable dissonance and that gives this refit a very unique feel. I like it, albeit not as much as the original ship. Also, sensor pods explanation for the nacelle fins actually makes much sense (one of the MSD-like cross-sections).

[@pitrock74205]

5:00 - Galaxy II class it's the USS Venture shown in DS9: Way of the Warrior. This is Galaxy Class variant with additional structures on engine top, probably phaser strips.

[@rarevhsuploads4995]

10:00 I love the warp fins, as redundant as 1950s car tail fins it's a stylistic addition that gives the overly rounded Galaxy class design a sharper edge. 27:27 I've always felt that the Galaxy class bridge is too small like a doctors waiting room, I want the refit bridge shown plus the side consoles from Generations & a MSD glass panel that's semi translucent/see through between the tactical console & the captain (up on the horseshoe) that can change to show mission briefings. The main cannon does need to be sleeker and shorter but it's an awesome addition that could of been incorporated into the Galaxy wings portrayed in the Dominion War as a kind mission specific addition that signifies a Galaxy is in use as a battleship rather than explorer.

[@Novaseta]

The D refit with the additional strip was used in DS9. I can't remember if it was the Odyssey, or the latter CG models. I believe this started because of the platforms being still attached to the Enterprise model, from the Dreadnought version. So it was left on and assumed to be the refit, (in reference to galaxy 2)

[@morkofork]

The Galaxy II class is the same as the USS Venture seen in DS9, we only ever saw them on that ship and they re-used the additions from the Galaxy X but rotated 180°. I would assume there are other Galaxy class ships with that addition out there but they were never seen on the CGI models used in later DS9 episodes.

[@AlexinCobra]

The USS Venture was a Galaxy refit from DS9 Dominion War time. It had phaser blisters added to top of warp engines

[@DonellJackson]

Thank you captain and Commander I love you videos and always look forward to new ones. If theirs any way I can help with anything let me know I want to keep watching these episodes

[@NiqDucoteArt]

The Galaxy II is just a variant of the original Galaxy, it was seen in "Way of The Warrior" from DS9, the USS Venture

[@MROJPC]

Would have loved to see a Galaxy Class dreadnought fight in one of the Dominion War battles - even with a not so powerful mega phaser.

[@Amberscion]

There are a few things that make sense here that you both seemed to be confused by: 1) Having the third nacelle mounted on the secondary hull with the standard two means that you do not need a redundant engineering section in the primary hull. That space is wasted space that can be allocated to a war fighting mission. 2) As TNG described it in the very first episode, the saucer separation was intended to allow the non-combatants such as family to be removed from combat. Yes, without warp capability you leave them at the mercy of the enemy if you lose, but by cutting your power by 1/3 you make more likely that loss in the first place. If the situation is such that there is no confidence that they will survive, then the best course of action is to retreat with the entire ship. 3) No Dreadnought should be carrying non-combatants. Or at least not enough to have to worry about leaving them behind when you go into combat. Frankly, no Dreadnought should even have a separable saucer. If it does, then it should have 2 warp nacelles for the saucer section, and 3 or 4 for the secondary hull, and the intent would be to have what is essentially two war-fighting ships act as one but be capable of splitting up if required by the situation.

[@saintdonoghue]

ON-TONT! French, not Spanish, so: no final syllable!

[@TheCastellan]

The T6 STO Dreadnaught is really customizable, can even remove the gun things from the saucer top and fins, essentially making a normal Galaxy with just a 3rd warp pod on it. :D

[@KertaDrake]

The whole refit design feels like a rush job that was a product of that specific timeline. Starfleet finally realizing it had a problem on it's hands and having to rush through upgrades to bring an explorer ship up to full warship standards as they realize they were falling behind the more aggressive Klingons. I'd imagine that a lot of ships got clunky add-ons to increase firepower because strapping on modular upgrades would be easier than building whole new ships.

[@JEDAI501ST]

One thing that I noticed between the Enterprise, & its refit is that the back of the bridge in the refit is actually lower than the non-refit version. Also something weird is that with the main shuttlebay, is that it's almost touching the third nacelle. Not really convenient if you have to leave there in a hurry.

[@NathanHeadActor]

That chart refers to this as the Galaxy III because of a production error in a DS9 episode where they reused the model to depict another galaxy class ship but forgot to remove all of the additions from "all good things" (leaving the add-ons to the engines). So in order to include this new variant in the graphic you used, they referred to this DS9 variant as the Galaxy II class, thus making the "future" triple-nacelle variant now a Galaxy III class

[@phantomzero2413]

The MkII they refer to in the picture is Venture refit during the dominion war. They added a phaser bank to either Nacelle.

[@andrewthorne3570]

The lower fins actually do give the ship extra firepower. In the original plans there was a phaser strip where the fin was. In the refit there is a phaser strip above AND below the fin

[@terranempire2]

The Galaxy 2 was probably a reference to the Venture seen in DS9 which added phaser arrays strips to the top of the nacelles. Also note the fins on the bottom of the struts, this made me wonder is it has some Quantum slip stream

[@hawkstringfellow]

great show guys

[@calebp.walden5556]

trekyards, I've seen some Starfleet ships are just saucer-section only ships. And some Starfleet ships are small enough to have their engineering hull can be retrofitted on the top of the galaxy's saucer. you may experiment with those ideas. you may call it the "caleb", "Walden", or "Caleb Walden"-class, after me. Just a thought. great review of this ship, guys.

[@ganryu415]

A point about the shuttle bay. The STO version has a hangar deck and can launch a squadron of peregrine fighters, where the standard Galaxy cannot.

[@kadindarklord]

The one marked Galaxy II-Class, I believe is the USS Venture from DS9, the model used for the USS Venture had phaser strips on the nacelles. Not used on the CGI models, but it was seen on them.

[@kadindarklord]

I also believe I read that that the strips on the nacelles were leftover from 'All Good Things...'

[@Dormentian]

There was one in Star Trek Hidden Frontier, the fan film series.. Which was refit in Operation Beta Shield, with a sensor pod instead of the third nacelle. The weapons were upgraded on the saucer near the bridge module, and the engines were uprated to match the technology being more advanced.

[@stevenheckert4515]

thought... seeing as Riker is a Five Star Admiral it's possible his entire staff is on board the vessel. this may be why the "Mega Cannon" is mounted externally with the extra shielding... the camel hump of the third nacelle could hold an extra warp core. While I understand Captain Foley's complaints that it ruins the lines but for me it reminds me of where beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... maybe in THIS timeline Riker became the direct successor to Picard and rescued it from the scrapyards by making it his mobile headquarters. I Imagine if the TOS movies 2-4 had happened differently then Admirals Kirk or (maybe) Spock would have retained the Alphabet soup free 1701 as their personal flag, ordering Scotty to make custom upgrades to it while the rest of the Connies were pulled from front line service.

[@DrewLSsix]

Warp cores are not housed in the nacelles.

[@stevenheckert4515]

+DrewLSsix I didn't say in the nacelle.... but in the structure rising up all the way from the belly of the the star drive section that looks to be about a tenth of the mass of the whole vessel.... plenty of room to house a horizontally orientated warp core

[@hawkstringfellow]

lemon wolf great picture... I use the dreadknot in startrek online lots of firepower love the refit

[@Allegheny500]

I can see that one blueprint calls the items on top as a torpedo launcher and megaphasers but from looking at other cannon ships and the fact that the launched torpedoes would not clear either the bridge or the center nacelle I believe its actually a sensor pod and not a launcher.

[@tmikesecrist3]

in the basic galaxy class, there is a torpedo tube that fires aft in the rear of the primary hull, that can only be used when the ship is separated...

[@phoenix1985]

I was never sure the things attached to the bridge were guns. They certainly could be but I also thought they may be sensors of some kind.

[@JimRobertson-Bodhilens]

This may have been addressed in earlier comments but I noticed in one of the cutaway diagrams that those fins are labeled as "pylon sensor array".

[@Deth1977]

I know I am a bit late but I was thinking about the 3rd nacelle and the megaphaser. and a schematic showing that the megaphaser was a deflector dish. one thing that might explain the 3rd nacelle in combination with the extra warp core and a possible deflector dish in the megaphaser would be if they used the 3rd warp nacelle to produce a warp field that they somehow channel into the phaser. they have around the beam emitter a deflector ring they would be able to send a tightly focused warp field and then send phased energy through that warp beam while using the deflector ring to remove any debris out of the path of the megaphaser. so you end up with a beam that is accelerated to warp speeds going towards a ship which would allow it to rip through the enemy ship's armor as though it were tissue paper. the deflector ring would keep any debris from flying towards the enterprise and would push debris from the explosion out of the path of the beam thus allowing it to continue through the ship and potentially into another ship. (the tightly focused warp field beam would also add additional structural damage to the enemy ship.

[@michaelt4256]

I remember seeing the 1701 d blueprints, and I always thought the very bottom of the saucer section contained a separable "captain's yacht". this new lance covers it almost completely. that's my problem with it...ALMOST completely. its still there... but covered up with a lance...

[@hawkstringfellow]

blueprints at 17:47 where did you find those???? very detailed they look professional

[@ratchet6969]

www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/jac-enterprise-d-refit/enterprise-d-refit-1.jpg

[@sciguyjeff]

Also, at 9:30 something and a comment below that the third nacelle powers the Dirty Harry gun. I thought, and please correct me, that the nacelles were strictly for producing the warp field and that all other power came from the fusion reactors making up the impulse drive. So if the nacelles only have the warp coils, how could it power the big gun or anything else?

[@ratchet6969]

The extra Nacelle is not for power generation, Nacelles only take the power provided by the warp core and turn it into the sub space field used to go to warp. The main reason you would have more than two nacelles is for either creating a more powerful warp field to go faster or maintain a higher warp for longer (two is the standard configuration because it gave better efficiency/redundancy during the start of the TNG era). Later you would see ships with more Nacelles as the accepted level of warp theory improved, and they could make ships like the Promethus. When the ship is in the normal one peice confgiuration the warp core will be providing nearly all the power the ship uses. The fusion reactors in the impulse engines will be suplimenting that. But when the ship splits that big gun being attached to the Saucer can only be fed power by the Fusion plants. Noty sure they would be enough to power it and still maintain the rest of the systems in the Saucer.

[@oddball6996]

The extra phaser strips on the nacelles on the "Galaxy II" isn't a fan extrapolation but it's because the USS Venture was seen with them in DS9. I'm guessing they didn't want to remove them with the other Galaxy X parts from All Good Things and just used that model in DS9.

[@jak-crow]

There's a fan made galaxy dreadnought that had a poster several years before this appeared on the show where the 3 nacelle was attached to the saucer section and the saucer had its own torpedo tubes. I used to have the poster but it's gone now.

[@stevenheckert4515]

re watching these older episodes and having new thoughts 1 Mega cannon. my thoughts on this is the reason for the bulk of the mega cannon is in addition to components for the cannon his structure ALSO houses a second Warp core that is aligned horizontally and that warp core is dedicated to either providing power to the cannon or in flight providing power to the third Nacelle. It should Be noted that I do not think these allows the X to fly faster, but maintain high warp for a longer duration

[@tedsheckler100]

This was a very cool looking ship. The only downsides to it were the little Bird of Prey guns on the saucer and the wimpy sound effect used for the F-Off cannon. Seriously, it sounded like a Ferengi hand phaser.

[@TheSanien]

I think that the Galaxy X was built because the Federation was under pressure and did not have time to design and build enough new ship for the war. A refit like this is way faster and does make a difference.

[@odstar21]

That giant canon must be a transfaze phaser canon.Voyager "Borg Drone one" upgraded Voyager torpedoes into tranfazed torpedoes.Also upgraded the phasers to" All phasers energy into one phaser shot",shield upgraded. Armor around Voyager was done by the crew experiment with the doctor arm device that has Drone one borg technology on it.Galaxy class ship have 8 phasers into one that shoot out a colliding 8 phaser beam and a split 4 and 4 phaser shot like in DS9 last great battle.

[@thesageofgames1871]

I know its a bit late, but in STO the lore for the Galaxy Dreadnought was based on how after the episode, Picard submitted a report to starfleet about the events of the episode, including Q putting Picard in an alternate reality for this latest test. This was why the crew had no knowledge of what happened. Anyway, Picard described for star fleet in full detail the Galaxy Dreadnought in the future time frame. The reason he did this was he had this feeling that Q, being able to travel through time as he saw fit, might have actually gone into the future to see what elements he would need to use to make the time period feel right. Anyway, after making his report he also added in that the Federation should try to not end up in a war situation with the Klingons. Additionally that starfleet should never make this refit of the galaxy class. Of course, however, things basically unfolded the way they did in that timeline with a few exceptions. Romulans got wasted by a supernova, not a super virus. Relations with the KDF went south with the return of the Undine. So, starfleet in all its "we know whats best better than you" mentality went ahead and using the information Picard gave in that report, did exactly what he said not to, and made an armada of galaxy dreadnoughts.

[@Tzunamii777]

Enjoyed the review! When it 1st aired, that gun took everyone by surprise. I didn't hear mention of the cloak, I assume there is none on the STO version.

[@blairbeck1979]

+John Owens The ship comes with the cloak on STO standard. But its pretty much useless.

[@nunya3163]

The appearance of having stuff "stuck on" to the hull is what one should expect from a refit.

[@gabesnooks3549]

Galaxy II was shown in DS9, I think it was the Odyssey that was destroyed. It had the nacelle bumps with additional phaser banks from the Galaxy III. Also, the move from Heavy Cruiser to Dreadnaught would not be too big of a jump for a Galaxy class. The Galaxy class was already a very powerful ship, up gunning and adding the third nacelle for the ability to do longer runs at higher warp factors, maybe some upgrades to the warp core for more power (imagine a Sovereign Class core)... boom, dreadnaught.

[@mnkyman478]

The weapons behind the bridge are for the dual heavy cannons in STO.

[@sciguyjeff]

One technical point on this is that the third nacelle is in the way of the impulse engine vent on the saucer section. The TOS dreadnoughts had their third engine above the impulse vent. Seems like this would not bode well for the nacelle strut

[@NCI701dan]

As a avid Trek-Role-player, we tend todo the whole 'Trekyards' treatment on ships and bases all the time. Hey, that begs the question, are you guys gonna do Starbases too? They're just as cool as the ships! D: Anyway... the Galaxy-II (The minor refit in DS9), I've always been under the impression was to improve two things. Extra-Phaser Arc, and the structural weakness taken advantage of in the episode where the Odyssey gets rammed by the kamikaze-Dominion-Bug. They increased the S.I.F, as well as the build of the neck, to reduce the risk. I also tend to write that they updated the interior to match the Generations Refit that the D got in the movie (the different bridge, and darker interior look). Thus, I think of the Generations-D, to be the Galaxy-II, even though there was no change to the nacelles. But anyway, I love the Entente Class (as I name it, instead of Galaxy-X). Certainly my preference over the normal-Galaxy.

[@kb9oak749]

Just re-watched that episode and holy crap! That thing is wicked powerful cloaking, warp 13, super gun, etc...

[@samuellawrencesbookclub8250]

Here's a question, if Warp 10 will turn you into a lizard, what in all of hell will Warp 13 do to you?

[@ericbrammer2245]

At 9:32, a good point is brought up. The Franz Joseph DN was built to be two 'lifeboats', both able to have warp power. This 'Galaxy X' does not do that. Without a 3rd, separate warp core, the Saucer section is raw fish-bait for sharks. Worse, it can't even fire 'the big guns' vested to it. So, "DUH" would have to be my critique of this ship build. Make it right, or don't make it at all...

[@kevinwestrom4775]

A question i have with the Galaxy X 'class' refit is, Does the saucer section still have the ability to separate when needed, as it does on the standard Galaxy class? If so, does the phaser cannon detach with the saucer, or stay with the warp drive section? Something else, i had noticed that this refit has a small phaser array on the warp nacelles, just above the nacelles externally facing sensor array, on the 'wings' part.

[@EmpyreanFrost]

at 26:06 Stuart (this is patrick btw) that is the Venture class variant :3

[@matthewleto1180]

The galaxy II is actually the sub class known as the venture class. It's in DS9

[@thewheatharvester9156]

My issues with the galaxy refit are: the center nacelle, the saucer blocks the bussard collector. Point and shoot weapons in an era of phaser arrays. In case of saucer seperation, phaser cannon loses warp power and fins and mega phasers make it look like a bug from the front view

[@TheCastellan]

The STO Dread is excellent for fighting and survival, but one tip: The lance won't do squat if the target's shields are up, even is only a sliver remains up, it will block the lance blast, you gotta have the shields of the target down totally, like a snail out of its shell.

[@darkninjacorporation]

I always loved the Galaxy Refit, it's the ship I use in STO

[@Antair.Gaming]

Always nice to hear you guys talking. What's the refit version at 26:15 ?

[@biostemm]

What if, because they were in a state of war, the 3rd nacelle was kept in standby, and only actually utilized if and when one of the others took damage. Alternatively, perhaps it could be used to better fine tune the warp field generated by the other 2 nacelles, thus allowing an even higher top speed, for such a massive vessel...

[@djrudd8455]

I like the giant cannon :)

[@timothypage252]

When you think about it, the ships make a bit of sense. When you think about it, the Dominion War showed the need for a more heavily-armed Starfleet, and surely used up a lot of Federation resources. The Galaxy and Nebula classes are big, and have plenty of space for more weaponry. The odd looks even make sense, as the surviving hulls simply had more equipment tacked on, a much cheaper alternative to creating whole new ships. I would have liked to see MORE weapons, with this line of thinking in mind.

[@sastrei]

Not that they ever used it, but the phaser cannon is built right over the captain's yacht.

[@crazieddy1]

The galaxy ll might be the USS challenger refit LaForge was in command of and oversaw.

[@isfj1009]

LOL!!!! Every time it gets to 12:47, it also cannot help but start laughing! hahaha! "big gun".

[@orcslayer006]

Maybe the fins are giant heat sinks for the engine to help deal with the heat from the extra power it must generate to use the third nacelle and the super cannon?

[@Lexi_Zone]

When I was a kid I thought this ship was the coolest thing! When I finally got the Eaglemoss model, though, I came to see it as...sort of a hodgepodge? It kinda makes me think of a Sega Genesis with a Sega CD and 32X attached...!

[@tank_0r]

So did the TOS Dreadnought have two warp cores to allow the saucer to have warp capability after a saucer separation?

[@jamesglass895]

Great Powerful Ship.

[@berthulf]

You mentioned a Nebula refitted like the Galaxy Dreadnought, like a Nebula X Class: I've seen a few picks around, though for the life of me I can't find any now :( but I did send a couple through to the STO development team. They said no, but I live in hope that that beautiful vessel will get to shine properly (science vessel indeed, *huff*) The last image, from STO, has the ATARI logo and is not representative of the current In-Game model which had a face lift recently to bring the lines and details more in-line with the TNG models, but even before that, the lance cannon was made much larger and more like the one we see in AGT. I agree that overall, she's nowhere near as nice a design as she could have been and did just look like the Enterprise with bits 'stuck on' afterwards. I know she was, but they could have put more thought into the shapes. Personally, I think the lance cannon should be integrated more into the saucer and I think there's plenty of hull space, with all the science facilities removed, to integrate additional torpedo launchers directly into the hull rather than behind the bridge. IMO the cannons and third nacelle look completely out of place and are entirely redundant, though I do like the bulked up neck with the additional impulse engines.

[@jamiekirk7064]

Once again , a masterpiece ,

[@furiousfons5758]

Have you guys made the full episode yet? Either way, as the model they modified was the 4-foot model which could not separate and was thus not shown on screen to separate post refit I would contend that saucer separation is not canonical for the galaxy x refit. the other two models from the first season of TNG were the beautiful 6-foot and more practical 2-foot model which both could separate the saucer. the way they attached the phaser lance, would have made it impossible to separate the saucer as there was no separation line in the gun.

[@beaney56]

In the game birth of the federation. This was my go to unit. It did not have the punch of the sovereign 2 or defiant but it had the mobility!

[@davidanttila465]

For the Fans who come to this video. Galaxy Class 1 is Original Galaxy Class. Seen in Star Trek Next Generation as Enterprise D. Galaxy Class 2 is Dominion wars refit. Galaxy Class 3 is the All Good things Phaser Lance refit.

[@donald347]

They should have used a roll bar from one nacelle to the other and the third in the middle/top of the arch. Would reflect the styling in the bridge

[@llamapi3]

The Galaxy 2 class is probably the refitted enterprise from DS9 that got nuked by the dominion kamikaze attack. They had extra phaser arrays on the nacels.

[@jonathansullivan6706]

Consider that the fins may have been useful for heat dissipation and shield distribution, functions that would be important given the ship's beefier, more combat-oriented, and more power-hungry design when compared to previous iterations of the ship.

[@Ebeneezergoode1]

My theory on the Lance is that it's a transphasic phaser. So it's bypassing Shields like the Duran Sisters or Jem'Hadar. The extra bulk is the equipment required to push it out of phase. Or something like quantum tunnelling. But more than just brute-force big phaser. Because that'd beg the question of why this wasn't done sooner. Unless a new warp core gave it the horsepower to support the megamega phaser. Can of worms!

[@ZeroB4NG]

5:20 this "Galaxy II-class" was seen in one of the Deep Space Nine Episodes, being docked at DS9. ( memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Galaxy_class?file=USS_Venture_and_Excelsiors.jpg ) I think they stripped down the Galaxy-X Model and maybe just forgot about removing the Nacelles? So we got a Galaxy Class with those thingies on top of the Nacelles in the Prime Universe CANON, not just in that Q *fantasy*(?) alternate future. That implies that this dreadnought Galaxy-X version might indeed have happened in the future... if Generations had not destroyed the 1701-D. 29:00 that is an oooold picture of STO, even still with the ATARI logo on it, they have remade the Galaxy Class a few months back (i've read), i have not played since then but the Screenshots of it looked a lot better. This is what the Galaxy Class looked like at launch 5 years ago: retribution-paladin.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/screenshot_2010-02-09-22-22-45.jpg THIS is the NEW VERSION: images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/12/a3/12a37636cc2a2772d2b4a5f4bd7f4e1e1427837862.png After 5 years it finally looks like the actual Ship! I would hope that the Galaxy-X was updated in the same way? But i am not installing the dilithium grind simulator again just to check this ;P

[@admiralgentry7962]

The Polaris Dreadnought Please, and Well Done on the Galaxy Class Dreadnought

[@Mellowcanuck33]

I would have preferred larger nacelles over a third one. The fins? I'd like to think they offer power to shields from tip to the centre of the belly.

[@VERTHASAMVS]

The Galaxy II and III on the comparison may refer to the first and second generations of the Galaxy Class. The first six ships of the class including Enterprise and Galaxy were launched with another six space frames completed but placed in storage as they were deemed too wast full to be activated at that point. When the Borg attacked the alpha quadrant and destroyed the fleet at Wolf 359. The stored space frames were pulled out of storage and completed to re-enforce the fleet. These new ships would be part of the next generation (no pun intended) of Galaxy Class ships. if design variations were incorporated during this time then these ships would logically be designated as Galaxy Mk II or Galaxy II for short. The physical shape among other things change on the Enterprise between the series and Generations. To me this means that at some point, the Enterprise a Galaxy Mk I was retrofitted into a Mk II. As the next major refit we know of for the Galaxy class is the Galaxy X, it is safe to assume that this would be a Galaxy Mk III. I've seen the Constitution referred to as Mk I and Mk II so there is a precedent for such a naming system. Just my two cents.

[@morkofork]

I thought the 6' model was the big one with a 4' created later for easier filming and then a 2' for distance shots?

[@SC2Owl]

AFAIK the Galaxy-II was a product of the Dominion-War... Galaxy-Ships that were allready in production at the start of the war that were rushed into service. They didn't bother finishing the interiors, leaving big parts of the ship empty. But they got additional Phaser-Banks on the top of the nacelles. Probably the interriors were finished after the war...

[@gregmcmahon957]

Great Episode!!!

[@admiralhorton7121]

The fins on the pylons are stabilizers, with the ship able to maneuver in ways the original couldn't the fins stabilize the pylons so they can handle the added stress from the increase maneuverability

[@AvengerII]

Galaxy Class II is an upgrade... There was a piece or two from the Galaxy Class 'Dreadnought' they did NOT removed from the modded model (which was a 3 ft or 4 ft model; the hero model IS the 6-ft model used in the first season of TNG and Generations...). These pieces are the extra phaser strips on top of the warp nacelles. The other modification to the Galaxy II is on the neck of the ship... It's colored dark to indicate armoring that was done to a weak spot on the ship's design. Remember what happened to the Galaxy Class USS Odyssey in an episode of DS9? That's why the neck was armored in the upgrade/refit!

[@nicholasdickens2801]

I found it! Thanks for this briefing Commander & Captain. Have you done the full episode on this? I was wondering if you'll theme your playlists like Klingon, or TOS era etc?

[@cdlord80]

My fan refit of the Galaxy has a core in the saucer to power two drop-down nacelles dedicated to the saucer to give it ward drive. Call my refit the Galaxy IV. :)

[@admiralhorton7121]

The Galaxy Class with the bump on the nacelles is the USS Venture from DS9

[@terranempire2]

The Venture seen in DS9 was the Galaxy II it was a reuse of the same model as the Galaxy X stripped of all mods except the added strips on the top of the Nacelles