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[@ashleydoster9076]

You did just fine ! We aren’t that scary 🤗🤗 PS. That’s me on the other end !

[@fordtechchris]

Approach Control or Tower?

[@jakeknoth]

TowerFlower InControl So cool!

[@terrya6806]

Yep still scary!! Talk way to fast for my country ears to follow,,

[@ashleydoster9076]

Tower!

[@scottlouis6589]

That’s cool you commented on his post. Very cool.

[@boathouse4202]

I’m literally sitting in science class day dreaming of flying... sees Trent posts a video!!!

[@davidtesch3205]

The guys in the Alaska Airlines plane are probably saying holy crap its Trent Palmer !!!!!!

[@esalenchik]

David Tesch 🤣🤣🤣

[@cember01]

LMAO. I was thinking they probably wish they were flying that KitFox. But your comment cracked me up.

[@Euryheli]

That’s exactly what I was thinking. I’d have said hi if that had been me.

[@acrodude25]

Probably the most honest aviation video I’ve ever watched. Great job!

[@danerickson11]

Fun to watch, speaking as a CFI, CFI-I, MEI, ATP, four type ratings, and current major airline pilot. You did better than you felt like you did. A little unrefined, but clear, concise, and aware. Well done, bro!

[@landofgiants8451]

Hey Trent! Im a Approach contoller and most pilots say "position checks" when we radar contact them if that helps. but I don't think there's set phraseology for that and I think your transmissions sounded great 👍

[@mountee]

Did awesome. Thanks for sharing so openly

[@thelastjohnwayne]

Now I know why my plane was late taking off from RNO, it was because Trent was out there playing around. I love Northern Nevada.

[@Sports-Jorge]

Being an airline pilot we all do it. A lot of Class B have their own “lingo” and procedures so even we get tripped up sometimes when flying to unfamiliar Bravos. LOL @ requesting “stop & go” - DENIED 🙅‍♂️

[@awlhunt]

I thought a stop and go was a bit hopeful too!

[@tomsmith3045]

I think she had to. If that airbus had to go around, we wouldn't want it to go *through* Trent.

[@nor_cal_trailrides9990]

I did all of my primary training at a class c airport so it became natural right away. I even liked having the feeling that someone was in charge of everything. Some of the most uncomfortable times were going into busy uncontrolled airports.

[@rayhayden]

Learning flight in South Florida, where we have to talk to everyone... I have to admit that in flight communications with control has always been my most painful thing to do... Getting clearances and instructions down on the knee board and then making sense of it all was a hoot! Dropping a LIKE on your video! Watching and Supporting! Watching further... that ENTIRE experience is EXACTLY how I felt every single time I flew!

[@Esser44]

Well Trent, I'm a professional controller and I don't sound any better when I talk to a VFR controller.

[@MrMR-sk8jm]

I'm a student pilot (almost done) and the worst part for me is the taxi instructions..."taxi via Lima 1, Lima, Delta, cross 14 L, right at Sierra, cross 18, to Sierra Hotel, hold short 14 R" only to have them call back in 30 seconds to change it to "taxi via Lima 1, Lima, Delta, cross 14 L, Left at Sierra, Right at Tango, cross 32 L onto Echo, right on Alpha, cross 36, Alpha to Alpha Hotel, hold short 14 R"...or something along those lines

[@buddyharrison2869]

Excellent video for those of us that are truly 'rusty pilots', thanks for sharing. Its the old adage at work - use it or lose it. Working comms in controlled airspace can be intimidating if you are rusty but your words of wisdom are precisely on point - at the other end, there is someone there specifically to help those in their airspace. I learn something from each of your videos so for selfish reasons, please keep up the great work. Best wishes to you and yours during this Holiday Season and 2020.

[@archstanton9206]

Kudos for stepping out of your comfort zone.Just takes practice.

[@countryboymotovlogs926]

Repatician, nervousness GONE. Piece of cake!

[@skipbrooks8255]

Right there with you, never liked controlled air space. I’m like you, picking my way around the “ blue spaces” on sectionals when on a trip. Might be a little longer, but I enjoy the flight; not the hassle!

[@bboydrummer1]

Thank you for sharing this experience. I found it very very interesting!

[@aaroncurtis109]

Hearing you being nervous makes me feel a lot better

[@robertvail3677]

practice. keeps you on game, and safer when you need it. happy day😀

[@JamesBurwellActual]

Yep. My biggest problem when I was a student pilot was also the radio. Understanding what they were saying, noticing when they called me, etc. It was a bit worse for me because I didn't have headsets and was using a speaker in the cockpit.

[@NickWare16]

Please do more vids like this, a lot of us love ATC and having a play by play of real world non commercial traffic is really cool, and of course, practice makes perfect!

[@buckbuchanan5849]

You did great Trent. Keep it up! Only small change: use "ready for departure" now, versus ready for takeoff.

[@devinstetler6874]

I want a Kitfox, Im a helicopter pilot and just love the veiw of the Kitfox

[@tomleonard5277]

I know exactly what you mean. We went to SAC on my check ride, my next experience at a towered field was during my BFR

[@terrymutant3581]

As a retired Controller .. just acknowledge and say "Roger". At busier tower controller airports. They usually will not approve Stop and Go's .

[@douglassnyder9612]

Fun to watch. I had the opposite experience. Trained at tower controlled airport under Oakland (OAK) airspace which is under San Francisco (SFO) airspace. I have only landed at a grass field once and that was during flight training. Will be watching.

[@synpse]

I learned at a controlled airport. Yet, live near an uncontrolled airport with a VOR and ILS. My dad's retired from the arilines, and back to CFI. He's got his students all jammed up on radio calls, and just generally overloaded. Maybe this will help him sort that out. I've been trying to help as much as I can with perspective, but it's still 20 years ago for me, since my 1st solo. BTW. anyone remember when they made Lear Fan out in Reno? my parents worked there before my time. Oshkosh is a blast. But what about Sentimental Journey? Everyone flying their Cubs in, and trying to line them up by tail numbers.

[@DuckMallard11]

Dude, you're fine. You did great. My Dad has flown for close to 30 years from a rural airfield and hates controlled airspace. I did my student training at a Class Charlie airport and I hate operating in UNcontrolled airspace. It's all about what we're comfortable with but we all know what we're doing. Just be smart and professional. Easy enough. You're good bro!

[@ryebreadsammich2402]

I'm a CFI in Daytona Beach, one of the busiest C's in the U.S. (definitely the busiest training area). I can tell you, comfort over comm's comes with experience and exposure. It's like learning a new language. If you don't practice it then you won't get better at it. My advise for now is focus on breaking down what they tell you. Repeat back commands they give you (vectors, clearances, squawks, etc). Other information is usually supplemental. Also, head over to liveatc.net and listen to a busy C approach or tower frequency. Try to repeat back the comm's that ATC is giving other airplanes.

[@suprim-21]

You are doing great! Just remember 4 things! Who you are talking to who you are where you are your intentions and if they advice you for something, just read back.

[@williamnilsson3665]

Reading back the wind in T/O clearence ;) It went fine!

[@terrymillerii4181]

Nothing to it but to do it! I'll take you up on that wing man offer. I have a few drones too, wanna learn experimental next. Your encouraging trent keep it up!

[@FlexTCWin]

No idea how i landed here (great pun huh?). I have absolutely nothing to do with flying. But Im in the emergency services and I remember radio communication when I started was one of the scariest things for me. Now it's second nature but when I see you "panic" and get muddled it really reminds me of me haha. Great video!

[@conwaydabney4337]

Not too long ago a friend asked me what I was watching and I said "It's like Warren Miller except for airplanes..." and they immediately understood. Thank you for doing what you do.

[@NevadanHunter]

I feel you Trent, I pretty much fly exclusively out of KEKO and the only time I have been into controlled airspace was during my training when we made a trip up to Twin Falls. It gets frustrating for sure.

[@TheBappy56]

You honestly handled those calls extremely well. I've flown the vast majority of my flights into controlled airspace and make those same mistakes and more even now. The only thing I woulda done different for you is flown to a class D which is a little more forgiving in terms of airline traffic and radio traffic. Beyond that your radio calls were just what they were supposed to be!

[@robinhilliard]

To reduce your work load something I was taught is to cue up the most likely next frequency ahead of time, especially switching to ground after the tower. Well done, agree that controlled airspace can be a bit intimidating to get used to.

[@seanmcbride3899]

I'm with you on this. I really don't like controlled airspace and remembering all the radio stuff. Nice video

[@hydojenk]

Great vid bridging the gap between pilots and ATC.

[@Hgdhgfdssxvbbnjoo]

It’s definitely intimidating talking to a tower. Better to talk too much and let them know exactly what you are doing than say nothing at all. Tower controllers surprisingly are not aviation nazis, and are a lot more chill than you think.

[@ashleydoster9076]

Anytime you have the opportunity to visit the Tower, please do ! PS... we like food 🤣🤣

[@NEAerial]

Great advice, except for the part about better to talk too much. Hogging the frequency with needless chatter is probably the one thing that ticks off controllers. Using nonstandard terminology is one thing, but holding the frequency is another. Just say exactly what you need, repeat back what they said concisely, and if they need anything they'll ask.

[@thomasmorea333]

TowerFlower InControl yeah..controllers are always hungry..I gained 35 lbs working in NYARTCC, many years ago.. pilots should always interact with controllers, and both sides can see the real people on both ends...

[@loganthesaint]

I’d think as ATC they definitely want you talking as much as possible.

[@NEAerial]

Travis Bohanan imagine you’re a controller and just noticed somebody made a wrong turn and is on a course to intersect another aircraft. Would you like to wait until the pilot checking in finishes telling you his life story to be able to fix the problem? Standard phraseology is terse for a reason.

[@AndyRobichaud]

Great video, Trent. I found it very educational.

[@macnudd]

About 35 years ago, I was student pilot and had to fly into 2 controlled air space airports. I always hated them. But one I called aproach, no answer, I kept calling until I switched to tower frequency when I was actually between the tower and it's radar. The radar was on top of a hill near the airport, the airport was in the valley. I literally flew between the tower and the radar unit as I got in touch with the tower. I told them I had called them on the approach frequency but got no answer. The didn't give me a hard time, I got my signature and returned home. I miss flying.

[@bobm7275]

That was an excellent video and very informative thank you.

[@house9850]

That was fun to watch, great upload

[@denniscraig7194]

Did great!

[@romiemiller2485]

Vernier throttle on a Kitfox! That's nice.

[@Hallyster1961]

When I was flying as a private pilot I was scared like you to speak with all the controllers but here in Italy we do not have open skies like the ones you have. Here almost all the space is controlled...

[@trued2010]

I want to mention a few mistakes, but I an not a pilot nor have I ever flown, so I feel I have no right say anything. That said, going out of your comfort zone can only have two effects, and I hope this was the positive side. I it also good that you recorded this, since you can use it to learn and do research for the right things to say as well as find and fix your mistakes. Thanks for sharing!

[@ak_5698]

Great video. I have the same issues in control air space. Ugh.

[@meRyanP]

You should contact the ATM and arrange a visit to the tower, I'm sure they'd love to answer any questions you have.

[@arty97234]

Great Video! I can relate.

[@michaelb.8953]

Some decades ago as a student pilot on my second solo long cross country one of the airports I had to land at was a class D (RDG) in Pennsylvania from my home airport (MPO). As I was talking to the tower of that airport and cleared to land I taxied off the active and the controller gave me a phone number to call the tower once I got into the FBO lounge. Oh SHIT what did I do?!!!! Apparently I busted their class D airspace by a very small margin before initiating my radio call to them as I tried to initially call the tower first prior to calling approach control. After having the tower boss chew my ass out for a few minutes now I'm all flustered as I have to now depart the airport after I go my log book signed. While I'm talking to ground I accidentally busted the active runway without clearance to do so, like I said I was flustered when I jumped into the airplane on departure and my head wasn't in the game. NOW THE TOWER BOSS IS YELLING AT ME OVER THE RADIO!!! I finally got out of there and on my way back to my home field I had to cross over a class C airport (ABE) and I'm still flustered while I'm talking to ABE approach control I asked if I have permission to enter their class C as the controller was really snarky with the whole time. Now at this point I'm all super vigilant and trying not to make another stupid mistake. I think he was talking to the controller from RDG. When I finally got to my home field and eventually got home I had a migraine headache from hell for the rest of the day. Ever since then I was really gun shy of controlled airports, but I did fly into some later on for the rest of my training completely uneventful, but what a learning experience that was. My saving grace was that I was student pilot and I think they just swept some things under the rug in the name of a newbie pilot. That was 25 years ago and I'm presently what you would consider a rusty pilot out of the cockpit for a few years. Getting back into the cockpit and restarting at you guessed it a class C airport this time around in the spring.

[@joshuahatridge3833]

Completely understand how uncomfortable that is. My palms were sweating just watching the video! Lol

[@curtkopp19]

Made ME nervous!

[@jacobjasch4397]

When they tell you information like that about the 172 I would simply just respond with "Understood...callsign". At least thats how we aussies do it :P

[@skrpilot5497]

I had the opposite problem; I learnt to fly at a highly controlled international airport (before they stopped light aircraft) so when I started to fly from private fields I was initially lost as to what to do and who to talk to 😂

[@yurimig253]

One fact.. control air space 🌌. Is designed for safe A to B transportation nothing more. You are flying to get there so you can land there job is to land you in order with separation. Keeping that in mind should make it less stressful... At least I keep telling me that lol I think with experience it gets easier. I trained in class g I'm still terrible and terrified about class B C D E.😂

[@IN281VE]

I dream of being a pilot!

[@joshuastephens4903]

Lot of pressure

[@ScaredOfMonster]

Hey Trent, been watching you for a while now. Flying airlines myself over 12 yrs now. You actually did pretty well, so don't fret. But as Darren Keast wrote, don't actively avoid ATC. How did you get good at landing up a (to me) vertical hill? PRACTICE ! So fly in controlled airspace and practice. Consider this : ATC are there to work WITH you, not against you. They are there to help you. Read back essentials, headings, altitudes, instructions. If you're VFR in a small airplane and fly into a large airport, they know you're not an airline pilot doing this 900 hrs a year. And if you're unsure, ask for a say again. There is no shame in that. Just as the term UNABLE. ATC will accommodate just about anything as long as you tell them in advance. Don't want to take off because you're unsure about wakes? Tell them as you are taxiing to the holding point that you'd like to wait 2 minutes. They'll see that it happens. On final if you feel you're blocking traffic, as soon as you switch to approach or tower, tell them the speed you can and will be doing. They can plan better. Your experimental might be a bushplane, might just as well be a velocity xlrg approaching at 180 kts. So speak to them. If you have to, use plain language to get your info across, especially if things go non-standard. Be safe, not ashamed.

[@5153flash]

Seems the tower would wonder why are landing ,just to take back off again immediately? Is this a common thing to do?

[@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071]

WOW that's crazy but also very informative. I liked this video a lot. How is everything else coming along with your house? Happy New Year 2020 !!!!

[@SterlingWheel]

Thank you so much for this video. I really enjoy the technical and procedural stuff. Now I'm gonna constantly be looking up over Reno for #FreedomFox

[@SimplySpace]

Dude, I know what you mean. This is one of the biggest things that makes me apprehensive about learning to fly. I'm really good with physics and I can understand aircraft control relatively intuitively. But talking on the radio like that, everything seems to happen so quickly and I can't imagine myself being able to keep up with that and fly the aircraft.

[@thejcarne]

I was trained in delta airspace and if I ever went to C or B my level of nervousness always went up the lower the letter. lol

[@roycoppock9803]

You did good! just forgot your tail number! Lol =P

[@IspiraGaming]

If you've not heard of it check out PilotEdge. It provides professional ATC service for flight simulators. I'd recommend x-plane 11 for its flight dynamics, but they'll work with all the major flight sims. It's really good for learning about comms and keeping currency up. There's even a kitfox available for xp11 from big tire!

[@nathansasse4655]

"Position Checks"

[@criqdekuyper9259]

Now add an ADS-B Out and carry on

[@BillSmith-rx9rm]

I've seen a lot of videos that say they are told to call a number after they land. I know that means they are in trouble, but with whom are they speaking and what kind of trouble are they in? Is it just a tongue lashing? Do they have formal papers written up on their record? I'm sure it depends on the severity of the infraction of course. What if they just blew it off and don't call?

[@ednesbit2988]

i know pattern altitude at reno is 5500 hundred and they had you at 1600 im not sure why the tower didnt an explanation so you were good trent

[@Muadib223]

I have a commercial rating and have been flying for 40 years... Flying the airplane is the easy part, talking on the radio is a pain in the ass...

[@-AV8R-]

List to liveatc.net when you have free time to help with the proper vernacular.

[@YoungAspect]

Why did you land just to take off again? Or did I miss something

[@Barty.Crowell]

How many of those towered experiences were in Oshkosh?

[@Jonnydeerhunter]

I think you need to do it more haha. Only way to get better haha. You know that though

[@Coughtry]

I hate flying into San Diego.

[@tomoch2008]

Trent, is that a video feed split onto your display?

[@bartrabiej]

Hi sorry if it's a weird question but I was wondering. Is it cold inside this plane in a weather like the one on the video and do You have some kind of heater in there? Thanks!

[@pappyodanial]

Wait.. why did you land there if you were felt like that?

[@jamescooley4170]

If you make a habit of going into RNO, your radio talk will get better.. As with other things in life, practice makes perfect.

[@gilgameshofsumer7375]

this guy sounds exactly like shay carl

[@OBENSquad_21]

Wait till fly into KATL And then get kicked out because you can’t keep up your speed in a Piper warrior ...

[@ThatBobGuy850]

Really great video, Trent. But man, relax! You did fine. But! First of all, you're VFR so you don't have to repeat everything the controller says word for word, nor are you required to say your call sign every time. A simple, "Roger, Eight Juliet Juliet" would suffice for most of those ATC transmissions that you felt needed a response. Most GA pilots think they have to repeat everything the controller says verbatim; it just clutters up the freq.

[@jimmorrison306]

Bet you don’t like going too high either. We get used to stuff.

[@EasyTarget892]

You talk at the start about the others you fly with also being apprehensive about flying in controlled airspace and talking on radios, so you steer clear. This means as time goes on your saturation point will become lower. Why not go out with one of these friends in the same aircraft and take turns - one flies, the other works the radios, then switch. You’re comfort level will increase quickly when you’re only concentrating on one thing, whether that be flying the aircraft or dealing with the radio. Eventually you’ll get your groove back.

[@chrisbowpiloto]

Darren Keast that is an excellent idea! I learned and taught others how to handle flight following by doing just that

[@JPascal61]

Very good idea!

[@musoseven8218]

Darren Keast That's a great idea!

[@maleficentcop2752]

This is a very good idea...we do this in EMS as well... It makes sense, I imagine the commercial flights are doing something similar....👍👍👍👍

[@edwindavidson1895]

Excellent idea!

[@motorheadridermotorheadrid8181]

I imagine it’s kind of like driving on the freeway being surrounded by cops. You have no reason to be nervous, but you are.

[@markmcgee5834]

I do, in fact, know just what you mean.

[@davidfreshour1109]

Yes

[@jacksoncampbell4922]

That’s exactly it.

[@dougbourdo2589]

LOL. Was a Motor Officer for 11 years of my 28+ years total LEO. I Loved having fun with fellow motorists when working. No worries folks.

[@Cam_Wight]

This is exactly the feeling

[@tylerw1418]

When he says “radar contact I see you at 1,600” You say “ that’s a big 10 4 good buddy, rolling on strong at 16 lookin for some open black top to set this rig down on breaker breaker”

[@Ashphinchtersayswhat]

Or just say...bleep blop ack ack ack..ack ack..speak Zorg to them

[@tylerw1418]

Eric with three last names. Lol

[@rags417]

"I can't hold them, there's too many of em !" "Stay on target ! Stay on target !" "It's just like shooting Whomp rats back at Beggar's Canyon" are all acceptable responses.

[@JonathanCalkins]

I just about fell off my stool laughing so hard

[@midwestpilot6079]

Proper response: “position checks”

[@ljfinger]

Talking to ONE CONTROLLER - panic. Talking to a quarter million KZbin viewers, - no problem.

[@esalenchik]

ljfinger 🤣🤣🤣

[@NenadKralj]

I would suggest that Trent try get rid of some fier w/ Tower!3D Air Traffic Control | Flight Simulator (probably would help) - practice more practice! Fight fire w/ fire !

[@camhollo1139]

Nenad Kralj I don’t see how that analogy applies but yeah, Trent requires the practise

[@vitalis]

Talking to KZbin, if it goes bad = downlikes Talking to Tower, if it goes bad = death

[@TheyForcedMyHandLE]

thing is that he's talking to a camera

[@flywiththeguys]

You're doing just fine. Everyone gets intimidated flying in and out of controlled airports. I fly out of one under the Bravo curtain. I'm so used to talking to tower that I get intimidated in uncontrolled airports. Great video though and I'm glad you made it. There's been a great push recently for pilots to share their mistakes and weaknesses and I love it. We're human and not perfect, but as pilots we all try to make people think we are. Thank you for sharing this.

[@mojogrip]

LOL, You did great man. Talking on the radio was probably the most intimidating part of flight training for me. Flying in Socal busy airspace you've got no choice but to talk someone over the radio while your right hand is constantly pushing buttons to change frequencies. Intimidating at first but you learn to pick things up in no time.

[@danielmichel7000]

yo mojo luv your stuff alot, keep it up

[@abhishekdev258]

Hey bro love your stuff.

[@CorbinAviation]

Love it Trent....the honesty and transparency around being nervous talking on the radios and how you captured that. Many people should be able to relate to this. I fly in and out of the busy DFW Bravo airspace and come across pilots all the time that are uncomfortable or intimidated on the radios. You did a great job showing this "live". Great work on this video!

[@samuelsmith4813]

Just read back what you were given and comply!

[@CorbinAviation]

@@samuelsmith4813 Close but that won't quite get you by. That is actually part of the issue as people believe they have to read back what they were given. Especially in a busy class B. For instance, you wouldn't read back the winds that were given to him; as he knew wasn't needed. If you read back everything you were given you'd really add too much to the transmission. You wouldn't read back "watch for wake turbulence". Another example, when told to "Ident" you wouldn't need to read that back.....you would just Ident. That would be your way of communicating it back. Lots of other examples where you don't need to read back what you are given.

[@haroldnelson3734]

Absolutely!!! However, trying to get it out of my tongue-twisted mouth while trying not to hyperventilate because of nervousness...that takes it to a much more complicated level. Sometimes, I just want to make it back home to my little airport without crying.

[@michaelsteven1090]

@@CorbinAviation but figuring out wasn't isn't needed is not difficult.

[@CorbinAviation]

@@michaelsteven1090 Nope, not at all. Easy stuff for certain. But many people struggle with it when they don't live and breath it on every flight. That's the point Trent is making.

[@crammydavisjr5813]

Your only radio call that made me smirk was reading back, “winds calm” on takeoff. Good work getting out of your comfort zone, Trent!

[@paulmarchi1393]

@@jeeefthegreat7555 wtf dude

[@philippd6117]

@@jeeefthegreat7555 Don't project yourself onto others...

[@UncleKennysPlace]

@@jeeefthegreat7555 Do you even fly airplanes? Or are you just here to act like a jerk? Only pilots are allowed to be jerks.

[@mackdlite5900]

@@jeeefthegreat7555 Count me in!

[@devono2318]

yep all you gotta say is fly runway heading, cleared for takeoff 8JJ. not as bad as my worst call by any means when I said the F*** word over the radio after being cleared to land.

[@richardcollins3825]

The tower is so professional...you know they were thinking how awesome it was to have the Freedom Fox at their airport!!!

[@cozyflying9518]

Tower: "Say intentions" Me: "Well I hope to have private pilot training done in about a month, then I want to start on my Instrument rating, maybe one day CFI"

[@TrentonPalmer]

🤣

[@cozyflying9518]

@@TrentonPalmer Thanks for the vids... super motivational!

[@arthurbabcock705]

Haha, this just happened to me the other day...

[@scottlouis6589]

YES! 🤣

[@lukepikoulas2126]

did you get it done??

[@Brian-cj4bj]

I love this video. Simple, humble vulnerability that is useful to anyone learning to fly. Thanks for sharing and your honest approach to sharing your experience. :)

[@GravityKnightFlying]

I learned in class C, but now days, flying 99.9% in the backcountry/off-airport etc. I feel the exact same way. Much rather face a short landing on a hill than deal with ATC.... lol.... funny how that works. I force myself to do the same thing you did now and then and it does help.... but it also gives me a headache and high blood pressure and I'm sure shaves my life expectancy down a bit!

[@CPurdiePlays]

When I was learning how to fly I had more anxiety talking to the tower than actually flying.

[@cember01]

not unusual.

[@Mike-vs3dv]

Me too.

[@BmHabib017]

As someone who flies out of Charlie's and Delta's all the time, you did fine! responding "affirm" is your best friend :)

[@yoshyoka]

Wilco and say again are also pretty good buddies :D

[@BmHabib017]

@@yoshyoka "Say again" is the motto of GA

[@yoshyoka]

@@BmHabib017 :D

[@dylanstapp]

Brian flying in Delta airspace can get really stressful

[@evilbrat5376]

Me would be "Say What.....Repeat Please! Grounded. #must confess - - non pilot