Tri-ang Hornby R.861 Evening Star with assorted Goods Wagons and Maroon 10" Coaches

A brief look at Tri-ang Hornby R.861 Evening Star 9F 2.10.0 Locomotive (c1971-75) with assorted Goods Wagons and Maroon 10" Coaches R.340 3 Container Wagon (c1963-72),R.14 Fish Van (c1952-72), R.561 Flat wagon with Tri-ang Toys Container Load (c1963-69), R.122 Cattle wagon (c1955-72), R.18 Flat Wagon with Cable Drum Load (c1962-71), R.124 WR Brake Van (c1955-70), R.422 Composite Coach Maroon (c1962-69) R.424 Buffet Car Maroon (c1962-68)and R.423 Brake Coaches Maroon (1962-69) The R.52 Jinty 0-6-0 Tank Locomotive (c1953-75) returns four R.342 Car Transporters with 6 cars on each back to the sidings and then goes on to make up a train for the Evening Star (c1965-74) All dates are approximate Music Source / Royalty free Apple loops/Looperman.com

[@stephenparrott3377]

Anybody else watched this more than once. Really great.

[@KeyToTime]

I have this model. Always thought it was well ahead of its time and marks a real shift in direction for Hornby. Incredibly well detailed and smooth running for its time. I can confirm that this model came with metal buffers by the way.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning great to hear you have this model in your collection. Thank you for watching and the information. Take care. Oscar

[@johnbill9201]

Another great video Oscar, giving me ideas for my own layout, thanks for sharing, J

[@The.nitro.keeper]

I love your videos ! There full of information. I started collecting hornby triang last year . Keep up the good work with the videos.

[@630julien]

A great many thanks for another informative video on one of my favourite subjects . Richard

[@topite]

Fantastic I enjoy your videos very relaxing and nostalgic want more.

[@NorbertRoll]

Nice to see again a part of your wonderful collection. Excellent.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Norbert, glad you enjoyed it. Oscar

[@russellbenton2987]

Lovely loco. A real change for Triang Hornby . Allegedly the tender unit was based on a Fleischmann unit. I had the R550 Black version in a Hornby Railways box with polystyrene inserts . She was a revelation running, lovely and smooth compared to my other locos at that time and to be honest restored a bit of confidence after years of frustration trying to get models to run properly. Constant cleaning of rails . This loco seemed to be much more resilient running , probably because of the pick ups over the full length of chassis . I still have her . Even though I’ve got the later Bachmann one and I recently bought a second hand Evening Star from the early Hornby period , R550 is still my favourite . 44 years of running!

[@andrewackerley4687]

Mirrored coaches being an hi-gloss finish as per the locomotive??

[@oscarpaisley]

I think you may be right about the Fleischmann motor. Great to hear you still have your original model. Oscar

[@POUNCEMAN1]

I remember when i was young ,,, this locomotive was running in a dept store during xmas,,, once i learned the motor was in the tender ,, i had second thoughts but it proves to be a strong locomotive,,, and thanks for pointing out its tight curve radius ,,, it just might be on my bucket list ,,, and again ,, Terrific Video ,,, cheers !

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Rob those were the days when department stores had model railway displays. Glad you found the video interesting thanks again for watching take care. Oscar

[@ModelRailwaysUnlimited]

Very nice, I have a slightly later version of the 9F, only difference is the finish. Great stuff as always

[@stevedunningduckinggiraffe6296]

Another very nice well put together video Oscar, much prefer the ones where you give a commentary. Back in ’71 I was completely blown away by this model, pored over the Triang-Hornby catalogue for hours and dreamed. This was the Jaguar E-type, the Nikon F2, the Nakamichi cassette deck of its day. Tender drive! Ringfield motor! Chrome wheels! Traction tyres! High Gloss! (ok even I thought that was a bit over the top) The bloke down at Passmore Models in Coulsdon regaled me with tales of one pulling 12 coaches and a dead locomotive. Only at nearly £10 it was just too much, apparently £130 in today’s money, never got one until last year.. How things go in circles - the motor’s gone back in the engine, traction tyres are out, so too are chrome wheels and gloss bodywork!

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks for watching and sharing your story Steve. Oscar

[@kevinpoole6233]

lovely loco

[@mike59317]

Lots of goodies here Oscar, well shown.

[@oscarpaisley]

This would have been a great hall from the toy shop! Oscar

[@24th1879]

Hi Oscar, just as a general observation and comment regarding all of your wonderful videos. Perhaps its already been said but it occurs to me that watching your video's is a bit like dipping in and out of one of Pat Hammonds books on Triang but with the added benefit of moving pictures and commentary ... How brilliant is that!

[@paull2613]

Lovely video So named Evening Star as she was the last to be built by British Railways and Evening Star was a nod towards the old Great Western, being built at Swindon, along with Copper topped GWR smoke stack...Thank you Oscar

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Paul, Thanks for the information. Oscar

[@trainsontuesday]

Lovely again Oscar, I really enjoyed that. No 9F's on my layout I'm afraid but I shall now be taking a closer look at my coaches. David.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi David, I think one of these would look very good on the Highland Valley Railway. Oscar

[@trainsontuesday]

I do have the Dapol non running kit 9F and also an unbuilt Airfix version as well. David.

[@sebn1313]

I went to York National Railway Museum 2 days ago and saw the Evening Star. All i can say it extremely massive in caparison to the other trains in the giant hall(apart from Chinese KF7).

[@oscarpaisley]

Yes I have seen her too. Very impressive! The Chinese KF7 is a beast. Oscar

[@pimpmydiecastsdiecastandto3176]

THINK IT WAS THIS MODEL THAT MADE ME A NON 9F FAN the finnish couldn't have been more unrealistic if they tried , i remember thinking it looked garish back in the day in high gloss and bling with paper stickers

[@farric1]

Those Mk1 coaches soldiered on until the early 2000's by which time they gained flush glazing and improved wheelsets, but still the same basic body moulds as you see here. The evening star body moulding is now the loco driven 9f in the current railroad range.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Craig, thanks for the information The must’ve been something good about those mould’s to get all those years out of them. Hopefully some of today’s fantastic detailed mouldings will go on for many years to come too. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@raveoned]

Beautiful video! The Evening Star with the maroon coaches reminds me of the fairly recent set Hornby issued through Marks & Spencer! I have to get that out and give it a run!

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Ed. Have fun playing with your train set. That's how it all started for Rovex, making a train set for Marks and Spencer back in the early 50's a Plunger Princess, two coaches and an oval of track. Oscar

[@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS]

I've seen two of these in person and they are very impressive models for their time. I have yet to see a BR Black one, are they more rare?

[@oscarpaisley]

The BR Black version was R264 in 1972. And in 1973 it became R550 and seems to not of shown up in the catalogue after that. So yes they are probably rarer than the gloss green ones. Oscar

[@MapTheDragonRailways]

I own the Hornby railway’s evening star and the linkage jams moving forward but runs fine backwards. It’s such a shame but hopefully I will fix it one day.

[@oscarpaisley]

That sounds annoying! Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@andrewfanner2245]

Chilshood memory of the catalogue mentioning the "authentic gloss finish" which even as a ten year old I thought a bit unlikely. Guess that was marketing men at a museum! The ladder can be cleaned up with some brown sauce or Coke to get the rust off, then some Carrs metal black or similar, or paint of course. Lovely locomotive but the development costs were enormous comapred ot the usual output. Worth it though.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Andrew, thanks for the tips on cleaning. They always look good in gloss at the museum! Oscar

[@colinking8374]

Oscar, how did you go about changing the traction tyres? I have just purchased a 9F triang hornby and it only has tyres on 1 side. I have a new set on order but no idea of how to do it. Many thanks

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Colin the first Tri-ang Hornby version of the 9F had traction Tyers both sides, but later variation just had Tyers on the one side. In both cases I think the best way to refit Tyers is to remove the motor block from the chassis frame by removing the two screws which hold the weight, chassis frame, and motor block together this will allow free access to the wheels. I've included links to 2 service sheets covering slightly different variations of the tender. Thanks for watching hope this is of some help. Oscar Sheet 98A www.hornbyguide.com/service_sheet_details.asp?sheetid=32 Sheet 78B www.hornbyguide.com/service_sheet_details.asp?sheetid=220

[@colinking8374]

@@oscarpaisley many thanks I'll give a try.

[@TomPrickVixen]

At least these older 9Fs has all wheel (tender-)drive, and a decent weight at the tender (i have one of the last of the tender-driven ones, and a Bachmann). This was the period when most european manufactures started to put the motor, and the drive to the tender, and tender-drive still rules most of the EU tender loco market. Some are very good dough, like the Fleischmann's. And Roco uses a drive-shaft to drive both the loco's and the tender's wheels, but a tender-drive still ruins the "illusion".

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Tom, yes, the tender drive spoils the overall effect. I think Hornby have gone back to locomotive drive for there current models of the 9F. The Roco models with the drive shaft sounds like a great piece of engineering. Oscar

[@TomPrickVixen]

Yes the recent Hornby 9Fs are loco driven, but they still have the old tooling, and ever since it was moved to the "Railroad" range it even has a little less detail than the tender driven ones had.

[@CZ350tuner]

I tried to find a video of the mid 1970's Hornby Black 5 done by yourself but you've yet to revue this locomotive. I have one of these. They have an interesting feature in that they were intended to originally to be conventional loco drive and not tender drive so the chassis carries a slot for the drive axle cog and a dummy ballast weight where the X04 motor would have sat. On mine I installed an Airfix 5 pole motor, installed the missing drive axle cog, and converted it to loco AND tender drive, which improved it's hauling power quite a bit. This was way back in 1979. The ring field motor and tender drive was disabled in the early 1980's, leaving only the ballast weights and that's how it currently runs on my layout today as a loco drive only Hornby Black 5. I look forward to seeing it in a future video some day.

[@oscarpaisley]

I have only recently acquired a Black 5 R.859 it's in one of those great silver seal boxes with the four tender drive steam locomotives pictured on it. I wasn't aware of the chassis design I will have to have a closer look at it. The centre drive wheel whilst being a step forward modelling dose course a few issues in the toy train environment I play in. It will find its way into a video soon or later. Oscar

[@andrewr2825]

No doubt this Evening Star was a massive undertaking for Triang Hornby at the time, tender drive plus all the additional trimmings and detail on the loco. I don’t know about others with this loco, But I cannot remember how many times that tiny spring on the front pony truck made an escape on the floor! And as an aside, the Insulfish van certainly had a long life in the catalogue too!!

[@oscarpaisley]

I think you may be right about the springs I have a number of spares just in case. Oscar

[@gerardburton3741]

Hi Oscar, You mention that the middle wheel of the engine is unflanged. The real engine's middle wheel was actually unflanged so that is prototypical. here is a good picture here to illustrate it. www.masterpiecemodels.co.uk/index.php/coming-soon2/br-9f-2-10-0

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi thanks for for watching and the link. It’s much appreciated. Oscar

[@andrewackerley4687]

She's beautiful Oscar. Apparently the prototype was only in service for as little as 5 years. What a waste!

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Andrew, the last days of steam. From what I read she was earmarked for preservation even before she went into service. Oscar

[@pp37903]

@@oscarpaisley She was earmarked for preservation before she was *built*.

[@danielanderson5364]

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