Triathlon Coach Reacts to Kona World Champs CARNAGE! - Ep 260 GET FAST PODCAST: IRONMAN

[@janfolkerts7342]

I am a big fan of Lionel but when I heard his comment in video after the race I was thinking to myself" How is it possible that a pro like he is does not know that long rides are necessary for an Iron Man or even half IM? And is he not doing them for a half IM? Than he is so strong that he gets away with it. I think he can do so much better than he does now.

[@limaged]

Lionel is not the sharpest tool in the shed

[@SandyWhisker]

Brilliant podcast with loads of excellent advice, I’m heading to Taupo 70.3 Worlds, Oceanside 70.3 and Nice Ironman Worlds in the next year. I’ve already tweaked my thinking and attitude based on your comments albeit my Coach did give me the preparation you mention for my first Ironman in Tallinn in August. I hope Lionel listens and implements! Indeed, I will forward a link to him and Talbot 👍🤞

[@trivelocoaching]

Thanks for the kind words Sandy.

[@mysho6317]

Not doing Endurance Ride training leading up to any Ironman especially Kona was mind boggling🙄🙃🙁😱

[@trivelocoaching]

🤐🤐🙉🙈

[@Observer_all]

Only Patrick sticked to his own pace and played his cards extremely well, this is a masterpiece in tactics, well deserved champion 🔆🔆🔆 almost similar what he did in 2017…

[@JamesMillar-n3f]

I ran/ walked a 4:32 marathon. First time I’ve ever ran over 4 hrs for an Ironman I normally do 3;45 to 3:55 Ironman marathons. Kona was my 13th Ironman but 1st time Kona. I just couldn’t run fast . Heart rate would go to high. My finish time was 11:36. My pb was 10:22 but my average finish times I reckon I’m a 10:45 guy

[@trivelocoaching]

Wow incredible achievements James! Kona really is next level

[@timwolf2215]

Fantastic vid guys. This year was the best example yet. Every year there are always guys that get taught the ultimate lessons but this year was the best. Now the hell someone can neglect the long endurance rides in a sport that is built around it is beyond me. Patrick racing his race and making smart decisions on the move was just perfect. Really enjoyed listening to this. Is the biggest issue ego? Is this why we continually see poor decisions and neglecting key training at critical times?

[@trivelocoaching]

Thanks for the kind words mate. To answer your question maybe it is ego? But personally how can we not love athletes pushing the boundaries of conventional wisdom to try and get an edge?! Not only does it make for such fascinating storyline’s but it’s also one of the key ways sports science in triathlon can progress

[@SchachKartoffel]

i did a couple of sprint and olympic distance triathlons in my youth and these were more than enough milage. iornman in beyond my imagination. even 12hrs is sick.

[@trivelocoaching]

Absolutely! What it takes to actually do an Ironman can only be truly be appreciated by those who’ve done it. The sheer distance of it goes beyond what the human mind can comprehend

[@kimfraser-rybinski4244]

I have been dioing the Ironman Fulgaz Pro Series which has six Ironman distance races on it including Lake Placid and Nice..want 180 klm it's there ...especially if you can't always get out on the road for that long due to work and family commitments.

[@nathandaly7099]

Thank you.

[@trivelocoaching]

No worries!

[@xbox360noob]

I was exhausted just watching the race kudos to all competitors and AG athletes. There was also a story of sabotage going around 😂 what a mess!

[@SchachKartoffel]

rly? sabotage? elaborate please! i do fancy a good detectives story.

[@trivelocoaching]

👀

[@jordandonnelly344]

@@SchachKartoffel suppoesdly age groupers in the 35-39 category came out and found their tyres and saddles messed with..

[@SchachKartoffel]

@@jordandonnelly344 :(

[@ironman140.6]

Excellent wisdom!!

[@trivelocoaching]

Thank you!

[@KG780c]

Look at the race this way: If Patrick finished 2nd or 3rd he would have been very happy. If Sam finished 2nd or 3rd he would have been very disappointed.

[@trivelocoaching]

Well said. This is why we love professional sports!

[@SlRCD]

I think you are making too many parallels between the pros and age groupers regarding strategy. I'm not as certain as you are they all made mistakes in their pre-race reasoning. I believe when a pro wants to take the opportunity of winning in their own hands they almost have to race in a non-optimal way. If it was a truly non-drafting race strategy would be easy. Because the watt saving of drafting seems so large if you time trial the whole course then the race win is no longer in your hands and you are relying on other people under running to win. Everyone was saying some 5ish guys could win on their day. Even if 80% of them explode you are racing for 2nd place not first because it's fair to expect 1/5 to hang on. I don't think Lange is some tactical genius you appear to make out, he doesn't have the bike speed of his competitors, and he is a top runner so his obvious strategy is just sit in and wait for the run. You can only choose this strategy if you are the fastest runner. This is why we saw the main favorites trying to ride away. In the pack except maybe Blummenfelt and Lange I don't think they are happy to go into t2 with 20+ people. It would have been nice to see a race where Blummenfelt and others sat in the pack and had a footrace with Lange but isn't it easily understandable why he doesn't. Last kona he had 6 minutes to make up and couldn't. When he's getting splits that Laidlow is taking a minute per 20km on the group I don't find it hard to understand why he tries to follow a Ditlev acceleration to limit the gap. It will be very interesting to see next time in Kona if more people don't draft the bike packs and ride a steady even pace. It was a great race to watch this year and thank you for the interesting discussion

[@nicolasbauchet7166]

Lionel is also doing to much indoor training. The race is not done on a trainer !

[@listrahtes]

Lionel has a lot bigger problems. Most see him as uncoachable. The one time he took one on in Iden he got a lot better but then again fired him. Just look at his running form that still hurts to look at . he would just need to work a month on technical execution . Just that would help a lot. he just brute forces himself through everything and by that gets worse. Compare that to a Lange who despite being the best runner still works on his running form every year, who meticously analysed his swimming and worked on it day in day out for months . Thats the attitude he would need but honestly he really seems uncoachable.

[@KG780c]

You are an idiot. Indoor training is far superior if done properly. Outdoor cycling is only required if you need to work on bike handling or descending skills which you do not need for Ironman Hawaii. Nice is totally different.

[@KG780c]

@@nicolasbauchet7166 Indoor training is superior. Outdoor training is only required to work on bike handling and descending which are not required for Hawaii.