Trick your boss into buying one of these! - MSI Stealth GS77 and Vector GP66

[@caliqm2199]

Alex: "So the charger is 240 watts" Me: "Damn,that's a lot" Alex: "That's less than I expected" Me: "Fucking puny,disgusting"

[@FaridRudiansyah]

Legion 300w tho, but not USB C brick

[@BrickTamlandOfficial]

i cant believe you've done this

[@anxiousearth680]

Unacceptable. UnAcCePTABLEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKOvf5aAmrh0ntk

[@planefan082]

​@@superkoopatrooper4879 My Zephyrus G14 charger is almost half that and charges in 50 mins tops if doing heavy gaming; lasts 14 hours of productivity work. Ryzen + 3060 combo is an efficiency beast plus almost on par with desktop

[@xRaffa]

me crying with 45 watt

[@OppenedDark]

Thank god they didn't spent 8 hours looking at the box before opening it. All unboxings should be done like this

[@VindigoPPP]

GS77's screen mood for entire video "dance like nobody's watching" on any keyboard touch and everybody did pretend to not see it.....

[@ZedemMonk]

As an all round mobile laptop the stealth is probably preferable but as a portable desktop replacement the Vector would be the way to go given that you'll likely be pairing it with additional cooling, screen, keyboard and mouse, thus negating it's downsides.

[@Iniwid]

Random other people chiming in during these videos always puts a smile on my face. Riley barging in for Techlinked Time^TM was especially great

[@henryatkinson1479]

yeah I too want a work laptop with driver and BIOS support that is fitting of a walmart chromebook

[@johnqsak]

We've been using the GF65 Thin For some corp customers 2020 to now. 180 W AC, mix of GPU depending on available model , gtx 1060, gtx 1660 ti, and RTX 3060.

[@РыгорБородулин-ц1е]

FINALLY, A LAPTOP WITH NORMAL SIZED ARROW KEYS, OMFG

[@spartangaming7223]

Should of enabled subtitles, couldn't hear anything over that laptop getting ready to launch into space

[@GaryFuller]

Managed to persuade my boss to get me the MSI Katana GF66, which has the i7-11800H and RTX 3060 in. That's about as far as I could push it for frontend web development. Wish I'd managed to get him to go with the Stealth though. Really impressed with MSI.

[@nekoyumi7064]

that linus face pillow in the background is going to drain my soul.

[@orcinsd]

Best advice ever from ShortCircuit, "if you put it in the wrong hole, you'll have a real bad time."

[@gurhanpekuz1813]

I own vector gp66 . it rocks in GPU applications. really feels like desktop workstation. batterlife is like nothing. when not plugged in battery lasts for 30 minutes while surfing internet. so it is all time plugin laptop. but I love it. this is a mobile workstation!!!

[@frikkenI23]

30 minutes? wow. What about the fan noise?

[@Shadeslayer8894]

Hrmm time to convince company these are needed for testing purposes

[@brendonv101]

Imagine playing Elden Ring on the plane with that tornado of a fan. 🤭

[@NikitaCartes]

240W is now supported by USB Type-C so they can do that if they want

[@sixgod5765]

i hate how "stealth" means taking away all IO and not making it sleek or sexy

[@arthasfrost]

Personal preference but I prefer benchmark with out-of-the-box setting before changing anything, because that's what user mostly gonna use without tinker too much setting Was referring the Forza benchmark

[@LMojzis]

Who cares about MSI laptops being upgradable when if you replace the thermal paste to improve longevity and thermals, you warranty is now void? Replaced my thermal paste on my GPU as it was suddenly going max RPM while not blowing blazing hot air. Naturally I went in for a repaste and found a large cavitation on the chip with paste baked into it. Sent it for an RMA and they refused any diagnostics whatsoever since I broke their void sticker. I am currently in an out of court settlement case with them as of today. They still haven't changed their stance and it seems I will have to sue them. GO MSI!!!

[@AhmedSLilah]

why the hell dont they put the i9 and DDR5 in the stealth make jus a tiny bit thicker and boom have an amazing work laptop

[@unwavering_sightseer7818]

Any laptop with a numbers pad makes me happy.

[@cppctek]

I love my gp66 but woah buddy it’s loud affff. If you copper shim mod the gpu and vram you can get the temps down and use less fan rpm

[@MaethorDerien]

I would be in the middle to be honest. I don't mind the thicker laptop and I rarely find myself using the trackpad or keyboard anytime I have enough space to pull out real keyboard and mouse. Especially since you can get decent tkl low profile mechanical keyboards now. The only time you really don't have that much room is on a plane and honestly I would be more likely to use a handheld or a tablet in that case or just be watching a movie on it. If your hauling a laptop your typically using a backpack anyways so the difference in weight and thickness isn't much of an issue. Where the thick one loses me is the screen, i don't really care for a high refresh rate 1080p screen and I definitely would prefer a larger screen. I much rather have a more color accurate 1440p screen. Ideally if I am spending over 2k in a laptop I kinda want to start seeing oled in them. The other issue I have with the 15 inch is that can really be replaced by something like an ipad anymore for 90% of work and is way better for content consumption. The few times I want a laptop is because I want the bigger screen because what I am working on might be terrible on a small screen. As far as sound quality and how loud the fans are I wouldn't really care since I am would be using a pair of headphones over the built in speakers in almost any circumstance on either.

[@Besso0]

Holy mother of chaotic energy Alex

[@paulengle5784]

Wait 100% DCI-P3?? That’s incredible.

[@plebetopro5786]

"It's bigger and just feels way better"!

[@LincolnRon]

For me, the three most important things (in order) for a good laptop are... 1. Durability (shock resistance and drop resistance) 2. How well does it work as a portable device? (Resting on your legs is the laptop's ventilation blocked or do your legs get hot?) 3. How quiet is it? I don't care about battery life, screen quality, keyboard quality, and trackpad quality since they are always pretty good on laptops that are over two thousand. dollars.

[@smegmaz9388]

battery life still sucks in some windows laptops

[@LincolnRon]

@@smegmaz9388 Unlike a cellphone where you expect it to last all day without ever plugging it in. A laptop is normally only unplugged for about an hour or two at a time. Air travel used to be the exception but I'm guessing most jets now have a way of plugging in a laptop.

[@IAG-Co-Ltd]

I got my boss to buy us $5,000 Lenovo Thinkpad laptops for work. I work in the event industry, video walls, presentations, lighting. It's about $3000 more than he needed to spend for that sort of work.

[@BrawndoQC]

You're a good employee! Could have been honest though. As a CTO/CIO I often purchased devices more powerful than they had to be for my employees if it made them happy. But I knew it.

[@machinainc5812]

Shame MSI stopped doing the gold accents on the GS Stealth models. I have the GS65 and its one of the most beautiful laptops i’ve ever seen.

[@TheJeep1967]

My money would be on the stealth. Better screen, better keyboard and trackpad for a 5 fps difference in games and a likely more significant performance advantage in everything else that I do. Might be time to replace my 5 year old MSI Titan.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Funny how every sponsored video happens to review the greatest laptop that's ever been made. What a coincidence.

[@zengwenxin8402]

65Wh battery and 150W power, that means it can drain the battery in as quick as 26 min

[@0newheeldrives]

"it's so solid" as the entire keyboard flexes like crazy and the screen wobbles back and forth like it's in a wind tunnel

[@MakerTim]

Hey Alex, 240watt is not more than USB-C can supply; and this laptop is no excuse for not having usb-c

[@jonathonrosalia9345]

the fan noise is a lot even over the internet happy to see a dcip3 screen option also how about plugged in vs unplugged performance since some windows laptops change a lot with that

[@gtx1650max-q]

2:07 That was GS65, but yeah even GS66 sucks in some ways on built

[@Zedris]

i could use the gs77 for a work laptop and a gaming laptop but the that screen wobble alone. every time u touched the desk the screen shook constantly. before the screen hinges broke if you torqued them now the screen hinge is fine but its so unstable it shakes constantly from the look of it.

[@geoff3610]

I just built an I5-12600K+3070ti desktop, would be interesting to see them head to head.

[@cangel8563]

Happy to see more and more laptops without tons of RGB I really hate those.

[@JamesYee]

I see the Linus way of handling hardware is spreading throughout the company. Linus Media Group, we drop your stuff, so you don't have to!

[@LasparkOficial]

Wow nice laptop, I'm sold! Let's see, how much... Ok nevermind, nice video!

[@felixkremer7773]

I think I’ll save up for the stealth since my old laptop ge62 apache pro is starting to show its age. Also then I can use the 1tb nvme ssd I bought for it last year in the new one.

[@TechWithShon]

The camera isn’t bad, we’re we looking at the same camera?

[@tsm1871]

02:06 Please reference the date of an old video when flashing back to it !!!! I hate how it's done on some videos and not others. In this context he said they improved in the last few years and literally asked how long ago it was since they reviewed that model. Sorry lmao but this is a huge pet peeve of mine of LTT

[@petertrex]

Remember the Intel Extreme tech upgrade? Andy doesn't like the peeeeel

[@rhisavray8283]

could we have a few budget laptops in short circuit, cuz then most of us could think of buying one. A series could be ASUS Vivobook series

[@rollingtroll]

In this video the Vector actually sounds better. The stealth sounds muddy, has hissy highs with no definition and though there's some 'sub' bass there's no midbass. Probably very different in real life but honestly, neither sound great. That said, who realllly buys a laptop for its sound quality?

[@wskinnyodden]

I'd choose the same laptop due to screen real estate, 15" is definitely so last decade! anothing below 16.5" is not good.

[@loophole3526]

40% more power for 10% performance max. Give me the quiet s77

[@l3v1ckUK]

How long before we start seeing QD-OLED screens on high end laptops?

[@kobe8316]

I feel that those laptops are better then my desktop

[@Psybuster71]

I don't know...it's still got a dragon logo on it. It's almost as bad as saying a Razer laptop can fit in a professional work setting. I'd honestly be tempted to let go of anyone who bought one on company budget without some serious justification.

[@as-qh1qq]

Hardware webcam switch! All for it! 👍👍

[@kz03jd]

Isn't the new USB C Power Delivery standard supposed to allow up to 240W charging? If so, would have been awesome for the first laptop to support that.

[@ZaimAfham]

I wish I can grab this laptop out of my screen

[@juliettaylorswift]

no mention of mini dp on back?

[@alexcalley1928]

Difficult at being expensed by work? I'm currently watching this on my MSI laptop from work.

[@JustinMissmahl]

I love my Asus Rog zephyrus duo 15se and i am definatly looking for the 16 two screens and better airflow for the win i am actually just waiting for your Video about the duo 16 before i buy it 🤣🤣

[@erickgabrielalfaroroldan5333]

I prefer the gs instead of the gs because the screen, trackpad and the thicknes. But I really prefer the 15.6 inch version of the gs. Also I can't believe that Asus Rog are technically better, but MSI still making laptops. Asus announced its new laptos months ago and still nobody can buy one. Anyways, MSI still having better cooling, better sound, better keyboard, better batery and better control software.

[@Loivado]

Why is the audio so bass heavy?

[@dillongoodfriend7248]

I wish I could notice the difference from 93 and 89 fps lol

[@parthsawant9643]

I personally would take the more powerful laptop for cheaper. This is due to two reasons, first of all being the price. I'm getting a more powerful laptop for a lower price, and battery doesn't matter to me much as I don't travel much. The second reason is that i currently own a 10 year old Dell Inspiron 1440n that has i3 2350m, so getting a 12900h and 3070ti is like dream come true.

[@trbdann2]

I like the idea of taking the hardware to it's actual capabilities by giving it the wattage it can take and actively cooling the s*** out of it. Seems more efficient/smart, less wasteful of good hardware. But I would still probably go with the Stealth for a laptop as I have my desktop when I want fans going brrrrrr.

[@busterscrugs]

I've never actually seen anybody using an MSI laptop in real life, lol.

[@aramaljanadi1295]

FINALLY LAPTOP

[@godofcats5200]

So while charging and gaming - does it run directly on wall?

[@MrNicvdb]

Shout out to all the other Small Thicc Bois out there!

[@hangover4833]

What's the difference between short circuit and techlink??

[@brashmandicoot]

Best unboxing video ever

[@zonenotr3145]

MSI watching alex unboxed it: bruh..

[@jonathanarleys]

Damn, I can only buying MSI modern with i3 10th gen processor.. I'm crying using it on a heavy CAD software... ✌🏻🤣

[@thexgamer8240]

MSI stands for Massive Sexy Input

[@spdcrzy]

Wait, DDR5 DOES come in SODIMM form?! FUCK yes! I can't wait for the next gen of Intel and Ryzen boards to make their way to Framework laptops :D

Going to be a bit of a wait. Framework's 12th gen motherboards have been announced and they're still DDR4. We won't see DDR5 on Intel until 2023, though it's possible that the company will do an alternative motherboard with an AMD processor and DDR5 sooner.

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

These look like they were made for 15-year-old edgy boys who have business meetings.

[@jasondailey9402]

MSI's hardware always looks amazing, but their software and driver support on my two laptops from them was abominable. I don't plan to give them a third chance, definitely not on a work machine.

[@sainsay]

Got a old ish msi laptop for personal stuff and I totally agree but at work we use Alienware and my god.. we make it work but so many annoying little things

[@Marcalitus]

This needs more thumbs up because their software is so 2015 and made by a high schooler while other laptop startups like xmg already have much better software experience.

[@hubertnnn]

I agree about the good hardware and terrible support. If you buy MSI, pray that you wont need warranty repairs.

[@sainsay]

@@hubertnnn have to add that my experience with MSI outside of warranty was very good. I was able to buy a new battery get it shipped with install instructions and a confirmation email asking how it went. And this was 3 years ago on a now 6 year old laptop.

[@jasondailey9402]

@@sainsay my experience was mixed: They wanted me to send the first laptop in for an overheating issue, and returned it with the mainboard from the next model up. They also wanted me to send my laptop in for a touchpad driver issue... I declined.

[@Frostfly]

As much as I love Engineering Alex. Chaos Alex is great to watch too.

[@garretthanson6424]

Facts, Alex is always legendary

[@IanMustafa]

Engineering Alex is always chaotic though

[@RichardBramlett]

That's his secret, he's always Chaos Alex

[@dragonhawk1492]

@@IanMustafa Eh, the difference between chaotic good/neutral and chaotic evil is smaller than most think.

[@microtasker]

Today, Alex chose Chaos.

[@jc021286]

Quiet boy wins in my books. I'd give up a few frames for the quiet, better speakers and larger trackpad with sturdier frame. Hands down

[@simster2759]

Thing is you can generally make the other ones quieter just by setting the GPU limit to what the GS uses. My laptop goes to 130W on the 3060 but I can also just set it to 105W which is what most laptops the same size use and it's much quieter. So can look at the full power as more of a turbo mode then

[@wxbrainiac]

@@simster2759 yeah you can do that but then it doesn't even get much better over the better built one

[@HanSolo__]

The thicker does not need a better: keyboard - regular mechanic wireless keyboard with big WSAD and arrows, display - because 4K 32" monitor, stiffness - sits on the "Outer Rim" of your desk, speakers - you have connected headphones or speakers by BOSE, Harman Kardon, or other JBL, trackpad - you just use a gaming mouse, gaming laptops if don't travel don't need trackpads at all battery - it pulls the power from the wall, slim and thin and whatnot because most of its mobile character is in ranges of "will be carried to your friend or your girlfriend". In terms of playing games when traveling, the owner of GP66 will use 399$ Steam Deck with a changed SSD.

[@AriinPHD]

could not agree more. quiet always wins. i am so sick of loud fabs i want to puke

[@novak_sm]

It's hard for me to listen through my earbuds when playing games, my laptop's fan's pretty loud. Would go for the quieter one too.

[@ilkerYT]

I feel like MSI’s entire design language as of late is heavily inspired by HP’s Spectre line of devices. Glad to see something new..

[@Dangerousm1ndz]

If u keep up with the designs then u see that every type of concept from what brand u have then u will see everyone has a design from one brand that already exists

[@sushimshah2896]

Wait, what? How on earth?

[@SpaceRanger187]

when laptops get dd5 and 40 series then ill buy a laptop until then, nothing special

[@FaridRudiansyah]

More like Lenovo Legion for internal board layout.

[@garretthanson6424]

@@Dangerousm1ndz closer to an omen on this one

[@whiteb68]

Love how short circuit basically brings back the old old classic LTT unboxing videos.

[@QualityDoggo]

Including the "dropping stuff"

[@aadisahni]

@@QualityDoggo Linus' ability is contagious

[@ilkerYT]

8:55 Thats why we need LTT to make a huge list of almost all the new laptops tested by them with fps graphs...

[@ivanesquivel9840]

yes

[@gamerdweebentertainment1616]

yes, how does he know one is 150w and other 105w... never seen them stats pointed out anywhere... powerbrick? Nah convinced they use same... +200 smth

[@pranaav2027]

Yeah like Jarrod Does

[@iamastrangeloop96]

@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 GPU max TGP is listed by MSI. You should never buy a gaming laptop without knowing the gpu wattage as that will affect the performance dramatically in some cases. There are ultra thin laptops with 3080s and 80 watt tgps that will perform much worse than 3070s with better wattage

[@simster2759]

Jarrod's Tech already has a full list of every laptop he has tested just go there. Or hardware unboxed generally has more detail that LTT too. As for how they know GPU power generally listed and also as the tester with the device can just run software to see GPU power. Higher GPU power almost always means faster in gaming laptops so fairly easy to judge. Except for weird cases of CPU throttles

[@probablemisclick]

In my head I lean toward the Stealth. But I bought a Legion 5 Pro… so I would probably put the Stealth in my cart, stare at it, then buy the Vector.

[@Kamel419]

IMO i love the design of MSI laptops, but they are so flimsy you have to treat them like glass. I realize he says that's been improved, but improved doesn't mean fixed IMO. I think for it to be this thin with these components they need to give a metal chassis a shot

[@Poolboy001]

MSI postions themselves as a value brand, or at least used to when I bought a gaming laptop from them back in 2017. I remember choosing between an MSI and an HP laptop with the same CPU and GPU, and the MSI was a couple hundred dollars cheaper.

[@sushimshah2896]

The GS series has always been metal afaik!

[@cdburner5911]

I bought a MSI GL75 laptop, because it was a bit cheaper than the ASUS alternative, and I 1000% regret it. Just keeping it in a soft laptop bag, the chassis and screen is so flexible it squished the screen in so there is a huge scuff from the stupid ridge thing at the bottom of the keyboard, all the way across the screen. And whoever laid out the keyboard needs to be fired with prejudice, it is, without a doubt, the worst layout I have ever seen. Its also quite loud, and comes with tons of bloatware. My first and last MSI laptop.

[@blue4059]

MSI's high-end workstation laptops with durable build are "Creator" series - M16, Z16, and Z17. This "GS" is a mid-range gaming lineup for budget conscious consumers. So of course build quality is not the highest priority.

[@Bierkameel]

For that money I would expect an magnesium backcover with captive screws, like other cheaper laptops use.

[@MonstermutzeNo.2]

Is this the last ShortCircuit video Jono worked on or is there a nother one coming? Either way I think we all gonna miss ya.

[@IssacSir]

I feel like a chance was missed here to turn this into " HOW TO Trick your boss into buying one of these!" all we want to see is you getting Linus to buy expensive stuff = D

[@JimPea]

The really did pull back on the gamer aesthetics, I feel like the old Lambo badge might stop it being taken seriously in the workplace though, I'd swap it for "MSI" logo that's at the bottom of the screen but then I've never liked the badge.

[@LuukDomhof]

The MSI Modern series is a great example of a more serious looking MSI machine. Then again, it is aimed at business customers so that makes sense. Oddly enough it doesn't feature a numpad though.....

[@microtasker]

Dbrand that shit.

[@romano_9]

Thank You Jono! Good luck on Your way!

[@gehteuchnixan69]

Amazed how one can review a product while apparently biting down on a stick the whole time. 😬

[@trevormckeehen2010]

I love how they have a whole team of writers then hosts just guess at the specs and leave it up to the editors to put the real specs on screen

[@stinkomalinko]

The whole point of shortcircuit is that it's unscripted and takes less work to put together. Just off the cuff impressions on stuff, no writing involved

[@cjwrench07]

The unscripted-ness of it, is what I appreciate. It’s a real first impression, not swayed by what they planned out to say in each segment.

[@thomasa5619]

I’d argue that specs aren’t really writing tho It’s a list and a bit of research, but it’s not that much work to have “2.5gb Ethernet” and some other dot points

[@Neoxon619]

But not every boss is like Linus & is cool with stuff like this. The company my dad works for is very specific on what he’s allowed to purchase through the company. Also, 240W is still within the USB4 spec for maximum power delivery over Type-C.

[@phattacorider]

Sounds like that company sucks.

[@alandworsky8926]

Eh there are good reasons for this. Both security and repair consistency once you are deploying laptops at scale.

[@cyjanek7818]

Thats good thing since there is lower chance he will be persuaded by sponsored videos like this one. If in sponsored video they need to say that keyboard is "acceptable" you can be sure it isnt. There is also a reason why it isnt compared to any competition at that price point.

[@robertlinke2666]

it isn't compared because this isn't a review, it is a showcase, exactly because it is sponsored. also they are legally not allowed to say things they do not agree with, even if it is sponsored, which means that if Alex says the keyboard's fine, he means what he says. LTT have been very transparent about these things for years now

[@cyjanek7818]

@@robertlinke2666 he said "acceptable" so it is "acceptable". He didnt even say that its fine. Take what you want out of it but I find it funny that people will belive anything and will throw stuff like "legally allowed" - yeah he agrees that it is acceptable, is it a good thing? "they are transparent" - yeah they told you it is sponsored because it is required by law. I hope you are at least more critical to reviews of things you actually want to buy because someone will screw you big time with that attitude.

[@ggnorton7]

Jono, we wish you all the luck on your way!

[@renegadethesandwing02050]

I have a gp66 from msi and the power brick still amazes people with how big it is, lol

[@jimmyn8607]

lol, me too. And people always asks me "Why is it always charging?" XD

[@JayRevealer]

+1

[@renegadethesandwing02050]

@@jimmyn8607 haha yup, i have mine set to best battery health so it only charges to 60% and it has to be plugged in all the time otherwise it will die in like 5 min lol

[@frikkenI23]

are you happy with it? How's the fan-noise? someone is selling one in my area for 1000 dollars, but I can't have the fans kicking up when I'm at work.

[@JDoeX]

Ok, so the last time I bought a laptop in the US, the first step was to "remove the box", literally. I think MSI is skipping on crucial details.

[@trapical]

0:37 reminds me of the reasons why I choose MSI for my motherboard. Was it the warranty? No. Was it the price to performance? No. Was it the PCB layout? No. Was it the quality of the MOSFETS and VRMs? No. Was it the I/O capacity? No. Was it the amount of PCI lanes? No. Was it the quality of the heat sinks? No. Was it because of _Lucky the Dragon is adorable?_ *YES*

[@puppydemon20]

I love the comparison between the two laptops in the Forza benchmark, it's probably one of the best examples that I've seen lately of two laptops that have different specs, different CPU, different RAM, different Motherboard, same GPU with different wattage, and they ended up pretty similar in performance. Obviously each one is going to have it's advantage at something though.

[@chromezephyr8959]

Fan noise is a super important criterion

[@reoencarcelado5904]

One of my favorite (or "favourite" if you're in the UK) parts of this and any other ShortCircuit "unboxing" video: the Crab-Rave part :-)

[@reoencarcelado5904]

P.S. Is it just me, or are there any other people that move to the beat of the Crab-Rave song?

[@seunfunmiewedairo4161]

Great video as always, but I have a suggestion, when you're measuring audio from laptops to see which one is better can you use a calibrated measurement mic like what was done in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpy8c2xpZs6IoMU , this way us viewers can get a better idea of how good these speakers are

[@BrucifyMe]

I love the collective "woah" when the bare copper heatpipes are revealed. I agree that they really are pretty and have the extra benefit of (likely) not costing the manufacturer any more since there's no need to paint them.

[@zizimugen4470]

The last time I bought an MSi laptop that you recommended, I needed to get an RMA, and MSi left me out to dry. They wouldn’t respond to e-mails, they blocked me on social media, ended phone calls while I was on hold… I didn’t even express anger to them. Disappointment, yes. But I wasn’t offensive, I was just in a predicament because they sent me a defective product and wouldn’t ship it to Japan when I’d be living there by the time they’d receive the GS70 Stealth Pro 2QE. To the other viewers, I strongly recommend against buying MSi’s laptops. I hope they’ve changed as a company, but if they haven’t, they don’t support their most premium products.

[@ssl3546]

Bro, if your use case involves "sending replacement to an entirely different country" you're going to be disappointed. Laptop makers are not concierges.

[@planefan082]

​@@ssl3546 Unfortunately yeah, except for *maybe* Apple

[@zizimugen4470]

@@planefan082 I’ve had fantastic support from Apple tbh.

[@zizimugen4470]

@@ssl3546 $1700 system, bought in America, shipped with a dead pixel and a bottom shell that could be clicked and not tightened flush. I had two months before I left the country, and I spent them trying to get an RMA while I was still here. They still led me to dead-ends by hanging up when I was on hold. I’d get close to support, be put on hold, then the call would drop.

[@planefan082]

@@zizimugen4470 Yep. Not my favourite brand but their support is still quite good.

[@MerryBlind]

I would buy the GS77 if it had a MUX switch, the GPU was higher wattage, and the screen had FreeSync+GSync. Hoping MSI add those to next year’s revision if I haven’t bought a Legion 5 Pro by then…

[@Ryne4S]

wouldn't that be too much to ask?

[@suitknol6604]

How stupid to both want a mux, and a free/gsync screen. You won't be using both at the same time

[@MerryBlind]

@@Ryne4S Not for the price they’re asking for. Also increasing the wattage seems feasible since it’s pretty silent and cool at the current wattage. MUX switch was part of the specs when it was unveiled at CES but didn’t make it to the released product for some reason.

[@MerryBlind]

@@suitknol6604 How stupid to call others stupid when you know less than they do. FreeSync is to work with Optimus when MUX switch is disabled. G-Sync is for when MUX switch is enabled. The Lenovo Legion 5 Pro does exactly this.

[@jmspldnl]

I actually bought an MSI laptop for business use a few years ago. Specs were great for the money, but drivers were garbage out of the box. Speakers sounded terrible and headset never worked right. Uninstalling the crappy drivers made things better, but still not great... Battery failed in the machine extremely quickly as well... Would NOT recommend...

[@noba4696]

Had the same experience, drivers were crap and the battery died in under a year and the Replacement battery didnt hold much longer. For the price I paid... nope never ever MSI again for me. XMG makes the most reliable Laptops imo. Their driver support is insanely good and the BIOS has much more options than I ever saw on a Laptop.