Triforce!

[@199gin]

You can tell Lewis learnt a new word this week when he repeats the phrase "it's quite galvanising" 3 times

[@minor_edit]

Or he's been listening to The Chemical Brothers

[@valerieblackwell5765]

Thats a really cool part of humans imo, new words are exciting and stimulating

[@muz111]

Having been in a mildly popular band a decade ago, touring is definitely the way that most bands make a profit. On a tour you sell more merch and CDs, and you get a factor of ticket sales.

[@Datharass]

You should tell the people how badly your band who did most of the work got fucked monetarily by whatever label or production you used.

[@muz111]

@@Datharass it was 2010, not the late 90s. The poison of the industry had seeped away from labels and landed on the door of many venue owners, many of whom demanded pay-to-play initiatives, where bands would pay a lump sum up-front to play the gig, and only get the money they initially paid back if every last ticket was sold. Most UK labels by this point were not nearly as bad as the decade prior

[@Datharass]

@@muz111 I see, I'm across the pond as it were, slightly different. Apologies for assuming the industries to be the same from country to country.

[@Fabianwew]

@2 cent The big one

[@Pattoe]

There's a Japanese Band that's quite small I listen to call MUTANT MONSTER and they travel to the UK a couple of times a year to play in small venues and it makes enough money to pay for the travel and accommodation for them and their crew. Bands definitely make money from touring.

[@thecanadianguy1662]

I wonder what’s a Triforce ASMR video would be like, probably Lewis eating a vegan meal, Sips’s Mechanical keyboard clacking away , and prion getting angry at his in-house Dota tournaments

[@ReFoxBlue]

The pyrion one would be recorded from an another room so it sounds like its coming from really far away

[@raremodelvideos]

For sure it would start with Lewis super close to the microphone, whispering "Welcome to Triforce ASMR". I am curious how they would work the Manscaped sponsorship into it though.

[@Wyattporter]

@@raremodelvideos talkin about balls

[@Necrobadger]

Why would you wanna hear Lewis puking?

[@gabrielashworth7163]

or just the sounds of pflax vape no????

[@drayzorn]

Pyrion's account of hungry Gorblub greedily eating fridge raiders had me tremendously, fridge raiders should be a LoTR parody of this!

[@Nett11]

In the entire time I've been alive, I have never heard anyone discuss or say that touring loses musicians money until Pyrion said it in this episode...

[@WildWestRaider]

My favorite band is Deftones. While they are technically mainstream, if they didn't tour every year and relied solely on record sales, they've stated before that it wouldn't have been possible to make a living with music.

[@Shosty]

He isn't entirely wrong, successful bands will often make a lot of their money through touring. But there are an awful lot of unsuccessful bands out there who make a big investment in going on tour and never break even. And for many small musicians the idea of going on tour is unrealistic from the outset. To say that musicians all lose money on tour is wrong, but to say that all musicians make their money through touring is equally wrong.

[@SuperSGFreak49]

@@Shosty I remember at uni we had the keys player from Hiatus Kyote, a quite popular Australian band, come in and talk after they'd gotten back from touring in the states. He said they hadn't broken even on that tour, and that most bands their size don't, despite that they have millions of listeners on spotify. Obviously you have huge mainstream acts that are going to turn profits but the reality is that in this day and age most artists, even those with large dedicated followings, don't profit from touring. Which begs the question of where artists get their money from, because clearly streaming doesn't pay enough, and the answer is that most of us still have to work other jobs, even those of us with millions of listeners all over the globe.

[@Shosty]

@@SuperSGFreak49 yeah man, that's why I've turned to composing for commission and teaching, the most consistent performance money I've made is playing with big bands and as a recording artist, but even that's been dying down of late

[@khazan99]

The only other caveat is: the COST of touring eats into whatever potential cut the actual band receives from touring. Insurance alone is a huge expenditure for touring; liability and property insurance and the corresponding accounting services are big ticket items when you're trying to put a tour together, as well as permits and tariffs per venue. Think of the absolute swell of support staff for any "show" that goes out on the road and those costs add up incredibly quickly. Everybody wants to dip their beak in the money, and more specifically, the PROFIT that a tour can make

[@bmats123]

Oxtail is actually really delicious. And not in a weird or exotic way. It's really just cow tail and it looks more like a small steak with a large bone in the middle. I grew up eating oxtail soup whenever I could

[@MrPeanut023]

Braised Ox tail when done right tastes pretty good

[@TheOzzyRaptor1]

I had it 3 days ago with dumplings in a slow cooker and now their talking about it!

[@Oceaan25]

My tastes have changed sinelce I was smaller, but I had oxtailsoup once when I was around 14 or something and I thought it was soooo vile.

[@weeb8812]

oxtail stew is literally the best stew ever HOW do people not like it

[@LeoLeo-xz5lt]

I love this podcast so much hope it never ends ❤❤❤

[@arkied3444]

Pyrion cracks me up because he sounds like my grouchy thoughts brought to life into a real person

[@binman39]

Like earned purely for the Giant panda joke. "There's one in my garden!"

[@LongBranches]

I've listened to every episode and I still ha...ve the softest part of my heart for Pyrion Great podcast, fellas!

[@vilcsith]

Tea has just finished brewing, and pizza has just been delivered. Perfectly timed.

[@raremodelvideos]

It better be Yorkshire Gold Tea.

[@Mrzacman5001]

Do you have your tea after eating pizza or during?

[@vilcsith]

@@Mrzacman5001 After swallowing the pizza, don't want any soggy tea-pizza in my mouth. But I take another bite after swallowing the tea. I'm a stinky slow eater.

[@vilcsith]

@@raremodelvideos Only the finest.

[@vvonderr2017]

Wow another great podcast from my two dads and my uncle

[@its_edvard3552]

I would like to recommend another book to the TriForce listeners. It's called Empty Planet by John Ibbitson and Darrell Bricker. It goes more into detail on demographics and more on the UN's estimations

[@gregorB92]

i put rain on youtube when i cant sleep. it helps me. and yes the tin roof one is my favourite

[@Happy_Shopper]

The only thing worse than tin roof is caravan roof.

[@gregorB92]

@@Happy_Shopper each to their own i guess

[@Happy_Shopper]

@@gregorB92 sorry. I think the caravan holidays of my childhood have left me with PTSD

[@rynslev]

the Victorian era and the industrial revolution overlap i feel like you keep separating them

[@SOENJAY]

38:17 Sorry Sips. "There's a new band in town, but you can't get the sound from a story in a magazine, aimed at your average teen." -Billy Joel, 'It's still rock and roll to me, circa 1980.

[@ckhound1]

Rain on a tin roof is amazing. Reminds me of my childhood. Funnily enough everyone I know is like that. They say if it starts raining, and they have a tin roof they just fall asleep super quickly

[@vickileekxx]

tours are how musicians make money. i thought that was general knowledge dude

[@Chicanery_Artifice]

it's how more well known artists *can* make money.

[@deank179]

As an Irishman, I find Pyrion's impersonation of a stereotypical Irish person to be highly accurate and hilarious.

[@piratewhoisquiet]

Tours are how the band makes the money, record sales are how the label makes the money

[@brenannewcomb3060]

From the words of wise Xavier wulf “why would we sell music when we selling out the building”

[@Aerafae]

The term for the whole "kids these days!!!" thing is juvenoia!

[@eanfowler9522]

Pyrion managed to set off my Alexa twice... no I will not stop listening ;)

[@rallywagon261]

Imagine the surprise when you discover that the mom in The Labyrinth is none other than the wife of trailer park supervisor Jim Lahey (may he rest in peace), Barbara Lahey.

[@MissusNyan]

46:24 - what did Lewis say at the end of the sentence? I think I misheard Rythian and now I can't hear anything else at 46:28 but because of that I wanna know

[@leemorgan9364]

“Really and...”

[@raremodelvideos]

Factfulness is indeed a very interesting book! Especially the quiz at the beginning, which shows the reader how warped their perception of the world is. Towards the end the book felt a bit preachy, try-hard optimistic and repetitive, but nonetheless it was a good read.

[@knitterknerd]

Improvements in the state of the world are a reasonably regular topic on the vlogbrothers channel, and they've also talked about why we seem to hear so much more bad news than good. In addition to what you mentioned, bad news tends to happen all at once, and good news happens more over time. For example, a tornado hits, and that's newsworthy. But the rebuilding over the next weeks and months? That's a lot harder to report on and to attract attention with. It's not an event; it's a process. You mentioned that child mortality is a good measure for progress. My understanding is that its decline is also one cause of the dwindling birth rate. Parents often don't feel the need to have as many children when they can expect more of them to survive to adulthood. Worldwide, we've made enormous amounts of progress in increasing maternal and child survival, and in fighting poverty worldwide. Humans are very good at disaster response, but when it comes to long-term recovery or improvement, it's a different matter. It's harder to get interest in the prolonged work it requires, and to dig into the nuance of all the short- and long-term consequences of your efforts. But we've learned a lot about giving people the support they need to help themselves, and it's making a huge difference. There's a lot of be discouraged about, but there's also so much to be encouraged by. We've proven that we can make sustained progress. Let's keep it up!

[@Warbek]

Love lewis's Stewart Lee impression at 50:40

[@nickhascall8702]

So I always listen to the podcast and never hear anything about like where I grew up(not surprised because it’s California) but this one when they are talking about movies they loved and the mention fast times at ridgemont high was great since that movie was based off of my high school.

[@ryanpruner1853]

that book factfulness is reductively optimistic. glass half-empty by aguilera is helpful to understand that, while some of these good things which factfulness points out have happened, it is unhelpful to just focus on them rather than the new and imo relatively more intense problems which arise from them

[@greengrendel]

the snoring monk really cracked me up.

[@BlueXonar]

The Manscaped adverts all over the internet are so ridiculous, they all annoy me, apart from this one. It fits with the podcast perfectly. 😂

[@ScrumpleScuff]

If you've got apple TV, "See" is a good series. Really enjoyed it.

[@Terinije]

Apart from covid, there has never been a better time to live for more people than now by every metric.

[@Fabianwew]

Not all metrics

[@Terinije]

@@Fabianwew humanity as a whole is living long, has a higher standard of living, has a higher level of wealth and access to healthcare, and is more interconnected than ever before, at least as of 2020 before the pandemic. There are obviously major trouble spots and areas of concern, but things are absolutely better pre-covid for more people than ever before.

[@Fabianwew]

@@Terinije But it's stagnating in the west. Life expectancy has gone down in several countries.

[@Terinije]

@@Fabianwew and during that same period where parts of the west stagnated or slightly declined, life expectancy and the standard of living vastly increased in Asia, South America, and most of Africa (aside from the parts sadly still particularly ravaged by AIDS), thereby raising humanity's averages overall pretty substantially. Things might've been better in a particular country, region, or city twenty or forty or sixty years ago, but those are exceptions compared to the status of humanity as a whole, 7+ billion and all.

[@blackscreenmeditationmusic4120]

the Exact Opposite of ASMR is the name of my new metal band

[@nucleargoat6007]

Oxtail is actually delicious as well as bone marrow on crusty bread with some garlic *chefs kiss*

[@Ghanaka]

Agreed. My family makes an amazing oxtail soup, the meat is fantadtic and obviously the marrow adds so much flavor to the broth. Ooooh yeahhh! I'm getting hungry just thinking about it lol

[@raremodelvideos]

I would be very afraid to order "Garlic Chefs Kiss" at any restaurant, especially one where I do not know the chef.

[@nucleargoat6007]

@@raremodelvideos it's a secret menu item shhh dont tell anyone I told you

[@RufusOmega]

Of course oxtail soup is still a thing, almost every major soup brand has oxtail. Heinz has oxtail soup in their main line-up, although it isn't very good.

[@sethkremer4731]

A lot of jello in victorian times

[@markregan4737]

to answer the question of why if we hate pyrion why do we listen. its sips im here for sips and sips alone and sometimes a little bit of lewis

[@PotentiallyAndy]

Watch it Mr Flax!!! Jennifer Connelly was my crush in school :)

[@costomame3895]

Suddenly I'm filled with the urge to listen to Money For Nothing...

[@davidmarden4789]

You all missed the greatest teen movie of all....."Ferris Bueller's Day Off".

[@RCGamex]

Sips did mention it at about 55:10

[@fukuu7998]

Pyrion is a fool. my granddad leifialagaalii said of turtle meat "i await that sweet flesh of turtle again"

[@ms.antithesis]

During the Victorian era Liverpools population was roughly 60% Irish 7:35

[@SuperSGFreak49]

In response to Sips' takes on exposure for musicians: if you wanted to feature one of my songs on stream, I would be okay with that being done for 'exposure bucks', but it would have to be featured as the focus of the stream where you are actively engaging your audience with it. Only then does it really help. If you are simply playing music in the background it is contributing to the overall atmosphere and vibe of your stream, which at its core is a product you are selling and profiting from. In that sense artists deserve renumeration for being played on stream, because what they contribute to the vibe contributes to your profits, ie without the music the stream is worse. It's the same reason restaurants and cafes have to pay royalty fees for the music they play. That being said, I don't think the DMCA is doing a good job of handling the issue, because issuing takedowns and basically stopping people from using music on streams doesn't help most artists either. If the DMCA was functioning properly as a royalty collection agency I think most streamers are reasonable enough that they'd agree to paying a little to have music played on stream and have the royalties distributed properly.

[@christianampo6265]

Factfulness was a great read, check out Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman next!

[@Jash0192]

Ed Sheerans divide tour made $776m his divide record album made him only $122 million. Flax is wrong on this one... the same can be seen for any major touring band or artist. Similarly the only way smaller artists can get their music out is through touring where people can sell merch and indeed more cds and vinyls making touring profitable. Maybe in the 90s flax would've been correct but the ease of international movement (COVID aside) these days makes touring a very valid and profitable revenue stream

[@dsalinaplays]

People still eat ox tail in a lot of island cuisine

[@rpreston5867]

i have never heard of fridge raiders in my life

[@JamieAubrey]

11:30 Flax: " Two words, Fridge Raiders, Most disgusting thing" Me: putting one in my mouth, "WELL THAT'S MY DAY RUINED"

[@Happy_Shopper]

They're gross

[@wowiexist9875]

Sips not understanding why copyright exists lmao

[@StreamingSunrise]

Victorian food is actually alright, by the sounds of it. Sweetbreads are delicious.

[@tylerjirkovsky482]

Victorian food is actually vary advanced, well rich peaple food. And it was quite spiced actually. Sence the French renaissance food has been good.

[@everythinggamingnow]

mad how many people actually think gigging makes money. Read about the bands that didnt "make it" they're 10 a penny. If you're using bands that are in the top 0.1% of "popular music" as examples, then you need to do some more research. If you've already got signed to a record company and already have a decent amount of sales, then no shit your gonna sell tickets, the popularity is already there, the hard work is already done. Now look at the years they spent living in a van going hungry living on free drinks from bars as payments. Its like looking at sips on twitch and saying "thats exactly how it works from every single streamer" without acknowledging the millions that tried and failed and made nothing from it.

[@tylerjirkovsky482]

If you gyes whant to know about historical food, from ages live the Victorian age, i suggest a channel called, Cooking History on KZbin And Oxtail is fucking amazing

[@raremodelvideos]

If you wanna learn about some truly horrible food of the British Navy during the Age of Sail, I recommend this video by Drachinifel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZnLhnmvrJmknJo Two Words: "Scotch Coffee". It is not what you think.

[@nickward3114]

tours only make money for very well established bands, not smaller ones. They are done to gain an audience who will then go away and talk about the band, buy their merch and songs etc. Most small bands struggle and do tours on a shoestring because they're so expensive.

[@AntonioNeto92280]

I am a 28 year man from brasil and i never had curry or any spicy food in general,do you want me to try it and see if i die?

[@darrenfleming7901]

"volaille" literally just means poultry so I guess even in the 19th century there was the french = classy stereotype

[@davidmarden4789]

I swear England and Oregon have the same climate.

[@Noobazzah]

Organ meats are literally the healthiest part of most animals to eat. It's fucking annoying when people pretend they're somehow gross compared to eating the fat and muscle.

[@markhackett2302]

Lord Flaxington: They used to never make any money from tours Told nope Lord Flaxington: I don;t know about that, I'd have to see some sources Also doesn't have sources for his claim. For example, All Saints won a triple platinum (or double), but went bankrupt because they were told what to wear, hired from companies that were also owned by the label's parent company, where to hire stretch limos (from a company owned by the labels' parent company, and so on...). Lord Flaxington cannot be wrong.

[@BlueXonar]

Ah yes Fridge Raiders "chunks of unidentified meat" Lets see... 100% seasoned chicken breast, 91% chicken content. More nonsense from the PFlax. 😂

[@MrPeanut023]

Give me a nice cooked beef/lamb heart, tongue and all that any day of the week over a steak

[@eonnephilim852]

tongue is amazing meat, impressively tender and receives sauce so damn well

[@GretchenDawntreader]

sweetmeats are pancreas I think. I don't understand why people eat this stuff or even in some cases treat them as a delicacy. They probably were first eaten by the peasantry because the good meats all went to the castle. I mean why else would you eat a pancreas.

[@GretchenDawntreader]

poor people had to make do with mule anus stew. (edit, I have no idea if that existed but just picked a food that someone would only eat if they have to. Probably mule butts didn't exist as no one had horses to breed with donkeys yet.)

[@scrvydg]

Was the Dire Straits bird a mountain Chickadee?

[@Civera89]

Sips nailing the head on the current state of the American political system at 50:00.

[@haggardshanks5894]

The talk re facts reminds me of the Ipsos site about the Perils of Perception - a global survey about what populations y=think is happening against what is actually happening

[@Chaotic_Monk43]

The way I think of music on Twitch/YT, if your video makes going to the original post redundant, that would be a reasonable takedown. If you are listening/using it in the background, which may get chat/viewers to seek it out themselves then that would be fair to say that is good exposure.

[@Shosty]

But exposure is nothing, exposure doesn't pay for anything, and the number of people that find music because they've heard it in some video somewhere is so small that it's inconsequential. A restaurant that plays music has to own a license, I don't see how a streamer is different in any way. If you are using someone else's work in any way whatsoever you need permission or you need to pay for it. The amazing thing about this discussion is that the people who think payment in exposure is fine are the ones who don't value music at all, because music is effectively free to listen to they now think that it is worthless. The only reason that the music industry can allow music to be free for individual consumers is because commercial clients are now far more common and trackable, and online creators are 100% commercial entities.

[@sujimayne]

@@Shosty Exposure pays for everythhing. No exposure = no one to give you money. This is a basic business concept.

[@Shosty]

@@sujimayne that does not justify not paying someone for their work, the exposure will be there regardless of whether you pay them or not. Exposure does not pay rent. I don't know what you do for a living, but imagine an employer told you they weren't going to pay you, but the exposure would help you get another job down the line. A musician might offer to do something for free, or they might reply to a request for unpayed performance, but to suggest that exposure is in anyway sufficient compensation is just an insult and will give you a bad reputation fast.

[@Ian-yf7uf]

A bit early. Making a fry up.

[@Wyattporter]

Pyrion, touring has been the main source of income for bands for decades. The Minutemen in the 80’s said it best: their albums were flyers for the tours. On tour, you’d hear songs that you’d never hear again and they’d never show up on a release. Touring is where the money is at, not spending a buttload on producing, recording, and manufacturing an album.

[@everythinggamingnow]

*some bands*... 99% make diddly squat. If you're not already signed and making records, you aint getting gig sales. Most likely will be paid in free drinks. Listen to the stories of bands that didnt make it, instead of assuming the route the top 0.001% took is the same as every single band.

[@Wyattporter]

@@everythinggamingnow Minutemen is hardly top 0.001%. It costs a lot to produce an album is all i’m saying, so the money is often in tours and gigs.

[@Shosty]

I think Pyrion was probably getting a bit confused with the fact that touring takes a huge investment and many bands won't make a huge profit once the initial investment is counted in, there are still a lot of bands that profit very well off of touring, but lots of tours have failed as well

[@Mrzacman5001]

We still use oxtail btw. Look up oxtail kare kare

[@Mynestrone]

watching at 1080 just to waste the bandwidth

[@idle6619]

Oxtail is great. Go try it.

[@StreamingSunrise]

This episode really shows how narrow Sips' world view it.

[@raremodelvideos]

I think it shows exactly what the book wants to highlight: During our early years our teachers and parents impart a world view onto us that is already out of date even then, and it just sticks with us. For whatever strange reason I also used to think that the world would be doing far worse than it actually is doing. Part of it is also the media's fault: The bad things get overreported while the good stuff is barely a footnote because it does not get as many reads/views.

[@StreamingSunrise]

@@raremodelvideos Oh, absolutely. I just didn't really expect it from Sips!

[@Jakem763]

“Touring loses bands money” *N sync sold out stadium in 2019 noises intensify*

[@stormdangelo7577]

Your friendly musician here! The Band makes it money from touring, however in a average to smaller band most of the money comes from physical merch/record sales. Big names with 10k+ audience will make bank off of a show where they are the headliner. The big factor being if they are the headliner (or one of them in festivals) remember that the label will have a percentage. But that is less then 1% of musicians who do headline. SIPS is correct: people make a ton of money playing a tour; however touring will never compare to how much they make from a brand deal. Pyrion is also correct: No one can sustain a existence in the current industry, things have to change or music will change as industry. The sad part is that if Sips plays your music he is the media that people try to reach for. So yes it makes sense that Sips stream would get monetized because he make an dramatically higher income then the average musician. PS. June 5th I have an album coming out! Check it out on Spotify thanks and love yall.

[@nwickstead]

6mins in and the lack of knowledge is astounding. Sweetbreads are the thalamus of typically cows. Victorian era started at about the same time England had colonised India, spices were and had been in food for centuries before. The first curry was served in England in 1809. Kedgeree was first served in 1790 to Scottish troupe returning from India.

[@raremodelvideos]

Did you come here to learn something? Wrong podcast...

[@Szkorbut7]

Really, 6 minutes is pretty good for them.

[@CRACKALACKASHANG]

LMAO does flax know that bands actually make the vast majority of their money from touring? Streams and Spotify and stuff mostly goes to like those companies and the record labels royalties aren't actually that much from streaming. Money made on tour though that's a lot more money going directly to I mean you got to pay the venue but a lot of it does go to the artist

[@tylerjirkovsky482]

The thing about the dmca is streamers dont make money from listening to your music and no one loses money, its pointless your just listening to music like everyone else, people dont sub or donate bucause the music you listen to

[@raremodelvideos]

It is also quite debatable that *all* ad revenue of the full five minute video goes to the license holder of the ten second song that appears somewhere in the video. Seems a bit disproportional. People are hardly watching a full five minutes just for a ten second clip of a 20 year old song.

[@Shosty]

It's true that the online creator isn't directly making money by playing the music, but they are still using it, does a cafe or restaurant make money by playing music? Does an online creator make money by using art in their KZbin banner? Just because there is no income directly attributable to the music doesn't mean they aren't using it to present an overall product, if you use music in a movie or video game it's considered part of the product right? Don't brush off theft just because you aren't at risk. Now, I'm not a streamer or anything so I don't know how it works, but if it's the way you've described it and the copyright holder of some music played will receive the ad revenue of a stream, that seems more like a punishment for playing music you have no license to use. So what I don't get is why we don't have the big streaming services, like Spotify and Apple music, providing streamer licenses, so you input the average size of your audience and pay a monthly fee based on that number and the company then shares the fee amongst the artists you've played on stream that month.

[@tylerjirkovsky482]

@@Shosty yea but a movie and a video game are nothing like streaming, like playing music on a stream adds no value to the stream, but in movies and video games it dose. Value, not meaning money but quality. You see music played on streams lend so little value that its not even worth takeing it away let alone giving a shit about it, its just fun, useless valueless fun, the best kind of fun in my opinion.

[@Shosty]

@@tylerjirkovsky482 I disagree with you completely, music absolutely adds to a stream and if the streamer didn't think so they wouldn't be playing it. If you like music but don't think it is valuable enough to pay for, then frankly you don't deserve it.

[@tylerjirkovsky482]

@@Shosty what i mean by value is, quality, music has no impact on how interesting a streamer is or how good he plays, i bet if you asked Sips if music impacts how he streams and how it impacts the quality, he would probably say it dosen't impact anything, Like when twich said stremers couldn't play music anymore, they where still the same streamers, people didn't unsub bucause the music stoped, music dosent need to be part of a stream they dont add immersion or suspense into a stream like they do in movies or games, for example if you've ever played World of Warcraft, without the logoin music or cinematic music it would not be the same, another example would be in a scary game how the music will suddenly get loud to make you scared, non of that shit needs to be in a stream. Its not that music isn't valuable enough to pay for, but if its not used as a tool to improve something or how you feel about something, its just music and everyones free to listen to music. When streamers complain about DMCA and how dumb it is, they dont say it bucause their intentions for playing music selfishly gaines them anything, bucause it doesn't, no one has quit twich or lost money or anything ilke that, if their has, find me the evidence. As for twich they can pay for the rights to have music on their streams, they are literally owned by Amazon, but the twich hierarchy is selfish, and they had decided to get rid of that freedom for money, and thats why its dumb, and thats my point.

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

Healthy food is more common ?? Then when is everyone diabetic.

[@darylchurch2115]

I don't understand the hate for Pyrion. He's so funny!

[@Morbid_]

Because he's extremely opinionated about things that he knows nothing about. His rants always come out of left field, and are annoying and cringeworthy cold-takes. I listen because I like Lewis and Sips.

[@wadss]

do british people not eat ox tail? it's like a prime cut of beef.

[@paulg6761]

i wanna see a rando pic of lews fridge. if i dont wanna barf ill become vegan!

[@umbracolt6364]

Sounds like they where using the whole animal.

[@Hollow5999]

There are 3 species of rhinos currently critically endangered... black rhinos are one of them tho there population is rising

[@TheGreyBaron]

One of the few times I feel Ted is off his nut- bands most definitely make far more money touring. If you think its only big bands- why would a mega-big band need/want to tour? Big $$$. Some even get a cut of concessions!

[@RobertAshbyMod]

Can we hit 200 :o

[@livid_spider]

Lol bitcoin definitely didn't recover

[@jackmcd277]

I think Lewis means white rhino

[@gregryan6120]

I love that you’d just constantly throw around ‘facts’ and frequently agree with each other so it goes unnoticed until finally you lot disagree on a fact

[@gregorB92]

So pyrion thinks bands like coldplay dont make milions on tours selling out stadiums and selling merch all over the planet

[@sz2095]

Totally agree with Sips...i absolutely cannot stand the sound of someone eating loudly..it makes my blood boil

[@AshleyTheDinosaur]

"Grossed half a billi' on the Divide tour" pretty sure musicians make money via touring

[@TerraZetzz]

Pyrion was a bit harsh toward unvaccinated people. Your body, your choice.

[@geniewa1651]

Arguably doesn't just affect their own body though, part of the reason is to protect others

[@TerraZetzz]

@@geniewa1651 What about those who had adverse reactions or even die from getting vaccinated? Does anyone ever talk about them? They weren't called heroes for "protecting others" because if they were mentioned it would discourage others from getting vaccinated.

[@peepeeman9701]

@@TerraZetzz because these people dont exist

[@TerraZetzz]

@@peepeeman9701 Really? I wonder why VAERS exists then.

[@JOTTHELEEGAMING]

3rd

[@Oldnoname]

Pyrion is really dumb for saying tours make no money. Lol

[@Diwalia]

If you want to get paid for someone using your music as a sample it isn't "making money in the easiest way possible", it's your original creation and you should be paid for it imo, not labeled as greedy

[@raremodelvideos]

It should be proportional though. For instance if you use a tiny clip of a song that makes up maybe 5% of your KZbin video, *all* the ad revenue from that video will go to the owner of that song. Never mind that they had nothing to do with the other 95% of the video, but they have a copyright to a small fraction of the video, so they get paid *all* the revenue.

[@Diwalia]

@@raremodelvideos yeah KZbin+Twitch are a different thing altogether, I was mostly talking about music sampling for songs

[@raremodelvideos]

@@Diwalia Agreed, if a whole song is built on another song, then the original creator deserves royalties for sure.

[@Soze94]

The comment about Bitcoin rising after the drop aged veeeery poorly. It has lost almost half of it's value in a week

[@Fabianwew]

It's up again now. A big dump after such a big pump is to be expected. It's still up an insane amount just this year in total.

[@tylermech66]

These guys have absolutely no idea about historical food at all. not that i expected them to, but they just speak with such _certainty_ about what they expect it to be like that it's vaguely annoying. entertaining, in a "Oh these dumb dumbs" kind of way, but annoying

[@Necrobadger]

It is so shocking to hear someone talking so matter of factly about eating meat being in any way bad. They've been so heavily brainwashed it's scary, lol.

[@Thatonedere]

The meat industry is awful for the environment. But keep telling yourself it's fine it makes you feel any better :)

[@ScrumpleScuff]

it takes 15000 litre of water to produce 1Kg of beef, that's 10 times more than it takes to produce 1Kg of wheat. Give it some Google bud, i think you may be surprised about the amount of energy meat production requires. We've only got one planet. We've all gotta share it so lets be kind to it and each other.

[@cyrilgoodman2101]

FFS IM FINALLY FIRST! I'm not proud of myself ...

[@raremodelvideos]

Yeah you better be ashamed of yourself.

[@cyrilgoodman2101]

@@raremodelvideos oh God, what have I done.