Triple Electric Fan System Install

[@the.murrball]

This kit works awesome... if your alternator is mounted below your AC compressor make sure when doing this install you flip the upper alternator mounting bolt so that the nut side is towards the front of the vehicle... otherwise you will not be able to remove said bolt without removing the entire fan system when you need to replace an alternator

[@yerwrng]

LoL I'll have to look and see how put my bolts back after doing my 00 wire set up I may have it like this already ,but if not good heads up because it would suck having to pull my front clip just to swap an alternator in the future because the bolt won't come forward .

[@spinachchin3452]

Awesome set up. Cant wait to get this in my XJ. Very informed video. Im glad I bought an XJ. The community is great!

[@dalebrooks4444]

So I'm doing the same swap but I need to remove the studs from clutch fan pulley to put shorter bolts in for clearance but nowhere can I find anything on how to remove those studs? Are they pressed in are they screwed in? I can't get them to budge any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@hndaxr400rdr]

double nut lock them, and turn them out normally

[@pengoat9]

4 ways to hook these up so test it before install.I got one real cheap because owner had wired wrong and or had fans on wrong..#1 negative polarity - #2 positive polarity,#3 fans in one direction #4 fans facing other direction..It can be in and seem to be working great but not cooling because it is blowing air back at the radiator instead of pulling it through but when it is running you can hardly tell the difference because it is backdrafting??It blows at the radiator then air loops around and funnels back out through the fan fooling you into thinking it is running correctly

[@9701095]

I have this kit and I'm finishing a rebuild and having trouble finishing up wat 12v ignition source did u hook up to?????

[@deadspeed6679]

When wheeling lets say I do a deep water crossing will these short?

[@hndaxr400rdr]

they shouldn't.

[@johnobody]

Awesome job,very helpful for me ,thanks mate 👍

[@alex_ottomano]

Also I must say this is a really badass setup, nice work.

[@KSuspension]

Alex Ottomano Thank you very much. Just introduced the system at a Jeep show in Indiana this weekend, they will be available on our website shortly

[@davetod285]

The oem electric fan pigtail with the blue and black wires connect blue to blue, black to black on the far driver side fan, correct?

[@KSuspension]

correct

[@cjv2131]

Does this only work if your cluster works? Because mine doesn’t, so I run a gauge and my fans on a toggle switch to be able to read temp and control heating. I tried to get SMOG(registration) here in CA 😮‍💨 and they said my fans have to run like factory in order to pass??? Where does the relay get its temp information from?

[@KSuspension]

Nope, you could rip the cluster entirely out and still run your fan system The sensor is on our controller which is either in the radiator or the tstat housing with our adaptor Tee fitting

[@cjv2131]

@@KSuspension so the relay would sit between the sensor getting its temp readings and the fan to be able to switch them on?

[@KSuspension]

@@cjv2131 if you watch our video, it explains what the controller is and which wire does what in function. You can mount the controller wherever you see fit, we usually mount to the firewall The sensor portion has 2 options, one that goes into the tstat housing or one that goes into the radiator fins

[@cjv2131]

@@KSuspension thanks for the knowledge👍 here I go 🤞

[@acokedupmonkey3762]

Is there a new write up on how the shroud fits in because I’m pretty lost at the moment with the shroud design.

[@KSuspension]

Instructions are on our website

[@acokedupmonkey3762]

@@KSuspension does each fan need to be grounded? I wired in my third fan to the factory wiring harness and when I turn my switch on inside the cab the fan doesn’t come on like it did with the factory aux fan.

[@KSuspension]

@@acokedupmonkey3762 each fan gets grounded, yes. And if the switch isn’t working, check the wiring

[@acokedupmonkey3762]

@@KSuspension thank you. Everything seems to be functioning fine except the fans are only coming in for about 5 seconds then shutting off when it’s warmed up. It’s hot enough where they should be staying on. Have anything I should check?

[@acokedupmonkey3762]

@@KSuspension but with the ac on they stay on like they should. The temp probe seems to not be reading correctly. I did not touch the adjustment either.

[@escozx2]

I thought the clutch fan pulls more air then any E-fan. I have the zj clutch fan and it moves a lot of air. Would this be a better set up?

[@KSuspension]

escozx2 the clutch fan will pull about 6000cfm on full load, but you're also doing about 70 on the highway. At idle, your'e tops 2000rpm crawling the trails, its not spinning as fast so it's less air flow The electric fan setup is constant at all times and you remove the drag lost by the clutch fan. And a ZJ clutch pulls more drag than the xj clutch. You'll notice a definite power change

[@escozx2]

K, cool I'll definitely check it out when it comes out.

[@KSuspension]

escozx2 Thank you very much

[@hectorhuerta6436]

@@KSuspension any set ups for a zj the I've replaced the clutch fan over 5 times already but there no overheating in this texas weather just want it to stay cool

[@KSuspension]

@@hectorhuerta6436 Don't have anything for ZJ's at this time

[@JoshuaMitchell1098]

Are the fans made by flex a lite and how many amps do they pull

[@wheels.and.wrenches]

Like 60-70amps

[@hectorhuerta6436]

Would this fit my 1991 jeep Cherokee 4.0 inline 6

[@KSuspension]

Indeed!

[@hectorhuerta6436]

Would I get an issue while setting it up

[@KSuspension]

@@hectorhuerta6436 only if you create one. Pretty seemless install. Only difference in our kits now is the shroud, we use a slimmer one

[@hectorhuerta6436]

I just want to upgrade the cooling with better fans,.. it's not overheating but I mean it's obviously better than the stock set up

[@paulingram1058]

I just bought a used 2001 Jeep Cherokee with this setup. The fans work properly when A/C turned on, otherwise don't turn on until about 205 degrees. In both instances only 2 of 3 work. The one closest to the battery never turns on. I don't see a switch anywhere inside the cab. Are all 3 supposed to kick on with or without A/C automatically?

[@KSuspension]

If it’s our kit, only 2 fans will turn on with the controller, the third is on the oem circuit and/or on a switch.

[@paulingram1058]

@@KSuspension OK; so 2 of the 3 fans will work as they're supposed to and the 3rd handles the OEM circuit regarding keeping the "check eng light" off, and does nothing further? . I find no" manual switch" anywhere. I suppose I need to adjust the temp activation threshold as you mentioned in this video back down towards 160 degrees as it doesn't turn on until about 205 degrees. Thank you for the info.

[@KSuspension]

@@paulingram1058 205 is a fine temperature to kick on at. 195 is when the tstat opens, 210 is operating temp, a swing from 195-225 is perfectly normal

[@mikegeorgianna]

ya buddy love it !

[@MiguelGutierrez-cz3hw]

Should the fans push air in or out the way you have it set up

[@KSuspension]

They pull inwards

[@emmanuelfernandez1238]

You said the system is not designed to solve overheating issues do you really mean that or are you saying that just for liability?

[@KSuspension]

It doesn’t fix overheating, if you’re overheating, you have other issues that should be addressed, unless it’s an air flow issue, in which case this kit offers great air flow across the coil. If it’s a flow issue, this won’t do anything about it. Have to figure out what you’re experiencing before taking the next step

[@MARZ1911]

What did ya connect ur yellow wire to?

[@KSuspension]

Fuel pump relay, triggered by ignition

[@ExecuteInStyle]

Can’t wait to do this

[@davetod285]

Where should I connect the yellow wire to the ignition? And where do I connect the green for the ac compressor?

[@KSuspension]

Any ignition key on source for yellow wire. And the signal wire going to the compressor, there’s only 1

[@davetod285]

KSuspension what number prong on the fuel pump relay should the supplied prong clip go on to? The numbers shown are: 87A, 87, 86, 85 and 30.

[@KSuspension]

Dave tod should be #86, if memory serves correct, should be a big blue wire. Always confirm with a test light before splicing

[@davetod285]

KSuspension fixed the problem, it’s prong 85 on the relay, not 86. Just incase someone else asks. Thanks

[@davetod285]

I’m running the 3/8 probe, at 210° the 2 fans are still not turning on. Can I adjust while running at idle?

[@KSuspension]

yes, clockwise turn will lower turn on temp, counter-clockwise will raise turn on temp.

[@KSuspension]

Also, make sure the controller has power and a good ground, otherwise it will not turn on

[@Kevinm0626]

Where did you hook into for the ignition wire?

[@KSuspension]

Kevin Morse we tapped into the ignition side of the fuel pump relay

[@Kevinm0626]

Awesome, Thanks for the prompt response!

[@Codvrv]

Where did you end up putting that yellow wire? And how exactly did you run all those wires to the 2 fans?

[@KSuspension]

You can use any ignition source. And it’s 1 wire to each fan. The other is ground

[@rickweaver1628]

Hey man question what shroud is that I'm going to need one and how much does a step off

[@KSuspension]

this shroud in the video we no longer use, we have a slimmer design now that works much more efficiently.

[@rickweaver1628]

@@KSuspension how much is just the shroud

[@KSuspension]

@@rickweaver1628 114.99

[@rickweaver1628]

@@KSuspension I'll give you a call later or get back to you soon

[@Cdulourd93]

Where did you buy this triple fans? And where did you buy the controller please. Thanks

[@KSuspension]

On our website, www.ksuspension.com

[@corwinmallonee4319]

my question is why i couldn't just run/power these fans from my factory electric fan wiring?

[@KSuspension]

The factory circuit won't handle them efficiently, Your oem setup only has 1 electric fan and a clutch fan that's constantly running, so it doesn't kick on the Efan until it needs to have that little bit extra. If you wire in all 3 efans to your factory circuit, they won't come on unless you turn on the AC (older than 00 models) or if you reach 218*F, and you wouldn't be able to keep a normal operating temperature range. That's why the controller is vital to a good working system.

[@slendermanxj1884]

What’s the CFM rating of the basic fans in the kit (non spal) you say 5,000 is that with the more expensive spal add on? Debating on buying this kit and for a hefty price of $600 I’m curious if the spal add on is really worth it.

[@KSuspension]

Ratings are detailed in the video Standard fans Spal is about the same They are slimmer and have sealed motors however, much more heavy duty

[@Cherokee98]

@@KSuspension Can you tell me thee exact cfm rating of the spal fans…

[@KSuspension]

@@Cherokee98 have not tested them with the meter. So the answer is no. But they do have specs on their site. They’re underrated tho, they move the same if not More than the standard sets, and the blades/motors hold up to heat much better

[@agent0997]

how many cfm per fan? 🤔

[@KSuspension]

described in the video

[@agent0997]

@@KSuspension thx bro🤜🤛

[@normhaslauer5568]

Do you have a set up for a 01 TJ?

[@KSuspension]

Not yet.

[@yerwrng]

I bought the set up .I was thinking of relocating the radiator to the rear for a few reasons . The underwood temps get fairly high crawling my xj doesn't overheat but shit get hot underwood even the Ori struts in the fender well get too hot to touch for more than a second or two . The aux fan when switched on keeps the driver side cool so I figure 3 fans that run anytime I want that pull good cfm at crawl speeds should drop temps . I'm also not worried about the mechanical fan hitting the radiator in an extreme case .I think I'll be dripping in an upgraded alternator shortly as well . If nothing else the fan shroud set up will look great hung above my cargo mounted fuel cel right off the c-hoop .l

[@scooter0241]

Idk if I like that temp probe just sitting in between the fins like that. Have you had any issues with it moving around or not getting a proper reading?

[@KSuspension]

None so far We also sell another style that has a 3/8” NPT fitting Need an adaptor to go inline with the upper rad hose, and it’s a more secure spot if you’re concerned

[@scooter0241]

@@KSuspension to me that feels like a better route. Will this work with a mishimoto radiator?

[@KSuspension]

scooter0241 yes it will, The only thing we’ve heard about any fitment issues with the mish rad, is that the mishimoto fan shroud tabs are higher up than the oem rad ones are, so you may have to modify them to fit our shroud. Otherwise, works great

[@scooter0241]

@@KSuspension alrighty, sounds good. What aftermarket radiator do you recommend for better cooling that works with your fans?

[@KSuspension]

scooter0241 the only radiator we recommend is an oem replacement. Not much better than that.

[@acokedupmonkey3762]

What is the SPAL fans optioned on your website? Also I am assuming the 3/8" threaded probe with adaptor goes in place of the factory temp switch? Is that correct? And can you explain what the accessory harness is? Sorry for all the questions I just don't want to miss out on anything. Thank you.

[@KSuspension]

The SPAL fans are an upgraded fan with sealed motors and a slimmer body style. the threaded probe goes into the tstat housing along side of your oem CTS. the accessory harness is an optional relayed switch harness to put a fan on a manual override inside the cab.

[@acokedupmonkey3762]

@@KSuspension Thank you for the answers, I am trying to save to get your kit but in the mean time I have a secondary aux fan I am going to wire in. I have no problems cooling but just want that little extra drag off the engine and the noise of the fan gone. Have you heard of anyone just running two aux fans?

[@KSuspension]

@@acokedupmonkey3762 I've seen many people do the 2 aux fans, depends on climate, it'll work just fine.

[@acokedupmonkey3762]

@@KSuspension I have your fan over ride switch I have bought previously from you guys. Can I use that with this fan setup? I would like to just use that switch for all 3 fans but I’m not sure if it will support all 3. Also I can’t remember if it has a ac power tie in? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

[@KSuspension]

@@acokedupmonkey3762 I wouldn’t do all 3 on the 1 relay. I’d add in a separate relay to control 2 and then 1 for the 3rd. And you can power it off the one switch

[@Norseman311]

Hmmm might do this

[@MileHighs]

Hey just curious to how this has held up? Looking at doing the same. Also do you have a link to fans you used?

[@KSuspension]

we've had it in this red rig since the video was shot and is still running them, we've installed dozens more and sold to many others with positive results. You can find the entire kit on our website: ksuspension.com we've changed the shroud design, but the premise is still the same.

[@zachwhidden8193]

Do you need to upgrade your alternator for the extra draw that the fans pull? And if so witch one would you recommend?

[@KSuspension]

You don’t need to, but it’s definitely a good idea. We offer 136A alternators on our website, excellent upgrade and they push out up to 200A!

[@Cherokee98]

@@KSuspension What RPM does your alternator put out its max amps ??

[@hndaxr400rdr]

@@Cherokee98 If I remember correctly, it's 6000rpm pulley speed

[@kenskens69]

Hello have u done 4 link suspension on a cherokee need some info

[@KSuspension]

Picapiedra 4x4 not yet, sorry

[@kenskens69]

KSuspension is thanks im doing my just having some question but thanks bro

[@wheels.and.wrenches]

Use Google

[@scottloutner5253]

When you install the pasenger side fan is very close to the water pump bolts. They need cut off to the nuts. If your motor mounts are old, when you put in drive motor will move over and destory that fan. I moved my fan all the way until the edge of shroud and drilled new holes. Problem solved. Even with bad mount. You wont hit. A precaution measure.

[@KSuspension]

Don’t need to cut anything on the water pump bolts as the face is a hex head with plenty of clearance. No protruding bolt or stud Now the fan clutch bolts are studs sticking out, and you remove them to install the replacement hex head bolts provided for a flush finish with no impact to the fans

[@johnpadilla480]

do you have the fan controller information?

[@KSuspension]

What do you mean?

[@jesseboedean]

Where can you get the controller

[@johnpadilla480]

@@jesseboedean amazon has them or at Flex-a-lite. Flex-a-lite 31163 Variable Speed Control Module with Threaded Temperature Sensor i also got their switch Flex-A-Lite 31143 Illuminated 3-Way Switch note get the right version of the controller for your sensor. I had to buy the hose adapter to link in the temperature to the switch. They sell radiator flute inserts but the one I linked is not the one. this is what i used with the controller I listed above: Flex-a-lite (32082) 1-1/2" I.D. In-line Radiator Hose Adapter

[@estructuraltetzcoco9443]

Thanks for the great video. We have a 96 Xj 4.0 used as a service truck and heavy towing (>2.5 ton); occasionally overheats on stock setup. Which combo would you recommend: 1.- Flowkooler WP + 3 core rad + 3 e fans 2.- Flowkooler WP + 3 core rad + ZJ fan clutch Thank you again

[@KSuspension]

We would recommend a stock water pump, stock tstat housing with 195* tstat, stock radiator, and either a stock fan system or our cyclone fan system. Either will suffice!

[@estructuraltetzcoco9443]

@@KSuspension Thank you!! Do you guys ship internationally (México). Best, Emmanuel

[@KSuspension]

@@estructuraltetzcoco9443 yes we do!

[@robertguerrero9400]

What’s a electronic fan control?

[@RealGumbyOfficial]

Robert Guerrero tells the fans when to come on

[@rudyramirez8653]

Can i still do this without that control? Lmk thanks

[@KSuspension]

Yes, just throw them on a switch

[@rudyramirez8653]

Without the relay ?

[@KSuspension]

rudy ramirez any electrical circuit is highly recommended that you run a relay. It’s a protection factor and handles the load instead of having it run through the switch

[@bambam305633]

@ksuspensions Will this set up work with an aftermarket 3 row all aluminium radiator?

[@KSuspension]

bambam305633 yes

[@KSuspension]

bambam305633 although you may have to shave off the oem clutch mounting bolts as the three row is thicker than an oem radiator But it will work

[@zaetke87]

Where did you get that hood strut?

[@KSuspension]

zac evans made the kit ourselves You can use a factory xj hatch strut with 10mm ball studs for the anchors

[@zaetke87]

KSuspension you should sell a kit!

[@KSuspension]

zac evans might be a product soon, many awesome changes coming this 2018 year

[@zaetke87]

Or at least a write up!

[@9701095]

More details on where you guys put the wires would be better

[@KSuspension]

What more would you like to know?

[@9701095]

Thx for answering! Where exactly did u splice into for the 12v ignition source! Im struggling with some electrical work!

[@KSuspension]

@@9701095 any ignition source works. We tapped into the fuel pump relay since it turns on with the key

[@9701095]

@@KSuspension ok sounds good, did u just run the wire down beside the correct blade on the relay or is there a certain terminal end u used like a spade or something???

[@KSuspension]

@@9701095 we run the wiring under the fuse box up to the terminal Just like the factory does for a clean finish

[@1richardallen]

Can't wait to see this on your website. Are you guys located in Boise?

[@KSuspension]

Tapiokah Puddin yes we are

[@1richardallen]

Sweet, I'm located in Boise as well. Just bought my first XJ 2 weeks ago, and found out this weekend the fan clutch is bad. I was looking around at electric fans replacements and I think I found a winner with yours.

[@KSuspension]

Tapiokah Puddin welcome to the jeep life, if you ever have any questions or need assistance with work, feel free to email or call anytime!

[@hectorhuerta6436]

So where can I get the kit ?

[@KSuspension]

on our website: www.ksuspensionfab.com

[@Jeeper95]

when and how much will this cost?

[@KSuspension]

Douglas Hefner hopefully will release soon, and price will be announced at that time. But I guarantee it'll be affordable and less than anyone else with a comparable setup

[@alex_ottomano]

Wouldn't you say 160 is way too cool for the fans to come on? That's way before the thermostat would even open. I think on at 205-210 and off at about 185 about would be some good temps

[@KSuspension]

Alex Ottomano that works fine as well. I personally wanted them on sooner, I just personally wanted mine to come on sooner than later, but nothing wrong with jumping it up to about 185° for a cycle, that should be perfect

[@alex_ottomano]

KSuspension I gotcha, I like how it's adjustable that's definitely a nice feature

[@matthewpaget9742]

Good video bro

[@efrenmercadotecniak8266]

600 +1 manita arriba