TRIPLE FPS IN ANY GAME??? AMAZING LOSSLESS SCALING UPDATE! Showcase

[@biggie_boss]

Grab lossless scaling here: store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/ Also sorry I guess the video didn't capture the FPS counter for lossless but it showed 40/120 on my end. Give it a try. If it doesn't work, refund it! Drop testimonies below

[@Zepbus1]

I dont get the fps cap to 40 on skyrim though could you clarify a bit more?

[@Doi4in]

@@Zepbus1 He has a 120hz monitor, the frame gen is x3, so 40x3=120. If he was using the older x2, he'd be capping at 60, since 60x2=120.

[@FrederikSeerupNielsen]

@@Zepbus1 120 hz monitor. If he sets the fps to 40 he can use the 3x option to get to 120 fps.

[@Zepbus1]

@@Doi4in Ah I see I tried the app now. I have 165 hz monitor so I went ahead and capped my fps to 55

[@ogrimzyz8643]

Just coming to say this must be sorcery of some kind, never thought I’d get rock solid fps in heavily modded cities but here we are

[@tsotnebetchvaia2342]

Ok, so now we can actually download FPS 😂. What a time to be alive

[@jaellpeerless]

The Future is now, old man!

[@scalpingsnake]

Ram next hopefully xD

[@Unknown-xf9kw]

I remember theres ways to turn some of ur storage into ram on Android phones, so there's a chance​@@scalpingsnake

[@tsotnebetchvaia2342]

@@usr21882 You don't. AFAIK it works on any card. Slower, but works.

[@itzdcx]

facts

[@Henkebenk]

Gave it a try and you did not lie about the results!!! Free FPS! (for 7€)

[@biggie_boss]

HELL YEA.

[@toxicokiller1]

I'm speechless... I saw your video and I thought, there's no way in hell that works. I'm currently playing Nolvus in 4k and was averaging 40fps. I decided to give this app a shot and omfg. 100+ fps right away. I don't know what to say.. Stared at my screen for a couple of minutes as I couldn't believe it lmaoo

[@daethmer7834]

How is it possible wtf

[@toxicokiller1]

@@daethmer7834 I have no idea. This is Voodoo magic

[@ogrimzyz8643]

@@daethmer7834I don’t know it’s some sort of magic, I’ve got my game running at a locked 120 in most places. Pretty crazy

[@damara2268]

​@@daethmer7834 AI software magic

[@Watskeburt]

​@@daethmer7834 gpu manufacturers are scammers thats why

[@ObscenumLoL]

I'm ready for Nolvus V6 now.

[@a1racer441]

no crap I was thinking the same i tried 5 but my 3090 almost caught fire.

[@amuddyelfproductions3915]

How? The 6900xt handles it easily and it's a worse card. ​@@a1racer441

[@chaserseven2886]

well they aren';t

[@Abe_Hartman]

Same, I was worried i wouldn’t be able to run it at all.

[@EvelynSykes-id3zg]

Thank you so much for this. I tried this in the ultra quality version of Skyrim Nolvus and I went from around 40 fps outdoors to 120 fps.

[@-IRAN-MAN-]

HI🙂 NOLVUS ULTRA FPS =? RTX4070TI RYZEN57600 RAM32

[@RyanMetz]

120fps steady 12400 6700xt 32ddr4 LORERIM Ultra 1080p-4k. God bless ths lol

[@biggie_boss]

It's insane right?

[@jake-ps4rh]

@@randomthings1293not a nasa computer… also you’d be amazed at what skyrim ultra modded takes to run dude

[@antoniogivaldri5184]

Wdym, NASA pc? 6700xt is really cheap, it runs my heavily modded Skyrim with 60-80 fps outdoors, so yeah 120 stable is a massive difference.​@@randomthings1293

[@honinakecheta601]

@@randomthings1293those are midrange specs brother…

[@JustOneGuy]

@@randomthings1293 I have exact same PC. You can get it for about 500-600€ complete.

[@diligencehumility6971]

To be fair, it does produce artifacts, especially with transparent things. Thin UI elements gets blurry while in motion. But... those are small prices to pay! This software produces extra frames for you easily, it's almost magic.

[@kohtas]

Just realized this myself, I'm playing Wildlander as my main list right now and all the UI elements are at the bottom of the screen where most of the blurring happens. I can play the list without it at 72 FPS capped with almost no FPS dips in most places so it's not a big deal but it really makes the Wildlander UI look bad unfortunately. Still glad I bought it though might be useful for other lists or other games later on haha

[@robbrg246]

I've noticed in emulators (on a ps3 emulator) it had less artifacting than in new pc games. Idk why that is. Maybe because the games are more basic

[@Dregomz02]

nah it works perfectly fine even at 3x in emulation zero issues with UI elements only a bit of halo around characters when turning

[@kohtas]

@@Dregomz02 that’s good for you but it’s going to work differently for everyone depending on their setup.

[@paimog9233]

its less visible if you lock on much higher fps like 60 2x. you need a 120hz or higher monitor though

[@Supertenchi2012]

😅 i figured it out & answered my own dumb questions....gods wish i knew about this back when i had Vagabond.😢

[@biggie_boss]

Game changing for sure

[@creepermanx12]

Ok, i just bought the thing on Steam and .....IT WORRRRK so WELL!!! i know i shouldn't say that with my 3090 ti but even a heavily modded game like Skyrim can put my 3090ti at 40 fps in some area. This is a big deal for the Skyrim community and for gamer in general. Thank you so much for showcasing this software.

[@SamahLama]

Can you try battlefield for me

[@Supertenchi2012]

Can confirm this is qorking awesomely! Running a Ultra graphics ENB Fallout 4 Storywealth with it Capped at 60 & my FPS Refuses to drop below 59.

[@biggie_boss]

HELL yea

[@cleverlikem3218]

doesnt storywealth always run at 59 to 60 frames? it did when i played it without this new scaling thing

[@Supertenchi2012]

​@cleverlikem3218 that's where it's capped at, however I'll have it drop to 35-45 depending on what I'm doing & where I am. With this, it's STAYED at 59/60, never dropped once! & since I run with a RTX 4080 laptop, I noticed a HUGE difference in graphics quality. Prob cause I had thus thing set on Auto 😂

[@ahapxir]

lorerim is a great use case for this. i'm doing 60 -> 120 and it feels snappy and looks great, only very tiny artifacts in specific scenarios. thank you for sharing all this with us

[@arkgaharandan5881]

meanwhile bethesda cant put fsr in the "next gen" fallout 4 update.

[@ajfgaming7387]

That would mean work and effort lmao

[@faiqraedaya]

I got this program literally yesterday and it changed my Skyrim experience. Really cool of you to show off how amazing the tech is.

[@jeffreyfamaran7393]

Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention!! This significantly improved the performance of my Skyrim.

[@raulmireles8051]

Banda esto de verdad sirve y no solo si te falta potencia, si puedes jugar tus videojuegos sin problemas pero tu gpu se queda al 95%-99% todo el rato lo que puedes hacer es bajar el contador de fps del juego a 30 y que el programa te los escale. ese era mi caso y ahora jugar con todo al maximo a 60 fps estables deja a mi grafica en 75%-80% lo cual hace que se caliente menos y pueda tener mas años de vida

[@stevanhaire5300]

Framegen stacks with this btw. So what you can do is get the DLSS frame gen by puredark, use that to double FPS, and then enable lossless scaling. You end up with a stable 4x frame rate with SIGNIFICANTLY less screen artifacts. The DLSS does a great job at keeping things looking good for the first pass of framegen. Then lossless scaling has a high enough base framerate(double your actual from DLSS) to scale off of resulting in a SURPRISINGLY clean visuals. So basically as long as you can reach a fourth of your monitors frame rate in game while running 2 upscalers, you will have a very awesome experience. 1440p Quality DLSS with framegen/lossless scaling results in me keeping a steady 36FPS with most mod packs using my 4070(*2*2=144).

[@lukilladog]

Oh boy, I was very happy with Puredark's 40>80fps, now I have to try this... this freesync g24f 2 monitor is paying off.

[@zolakaya]

Thank you! Hooked on Nolvus as well - This totally increased my FPS. Now using PureDark's mod and lossless scaling I'm pushing an unbelievable 120 FPS (which is max on my Oled) on the regular - Playing 4K Nolvus V5 ultra on a 4080. Thanks for sharing! "Buttery smooth" Yeah, there's just a teeny bit of lag, but this is Skyrim, it doesn't interfere with gameplay from my POV. Eagerly awaiting V6!

[@Shadow27374]

I have tried it and unfortunately it doesn't help. I have very strong ghosting in Skyrim, even on the lowest setting. The bottom of the screen and the edges have an effect as if you had stepped out of water. At higher values like X3 or even X4, the whole thing only gets worse. In addition, the input lag is almost as bad as with Google Stadia and the like.

[@Dregomz02]

It's great when emulating older games which have physics tied to the framerate. Been playing Parasite Eve 1 at 60fps, PE2 at 120fps and 3rd Birthday at 90fps. That way you won't introduce any bugs with physics and game feel much more smooth to play as long as you will be using the gamepad. I have never played Okami since i hated 30fps cap now i may finally play it.

[@Ask4z]

Someone, please help me. Every time I enable the FrageGenerator the head of my character glitches when I move the camera

[@AsIfItNeverWas]

PureDark is shivering in his timbers rn.

[@ajfgaming7387]

Was thinking the same thing lmao

[@Lyraine1]

Yup For lossless scaling It's 7€ once For PureDark's DLSS It's 5€ subscription monthly This is a no brainer.

[@LeafyTheLeafBoy]

@@Lyraine1 i mean PureDark has to create it's own Motion Vectors to function its fsr and dlss and DLSS frame gen + Upscaler is still superior in every way

[@AsIfItNeverWas]

@@LeafyTheLeafBoy sanest PureDark glazer

[@Crossfirev]

​@@LeafyTheLeafBoy except the way that matters to the poor boys in the back, no monthly subscription 😉

[@lilpain1997]

I would only use this stuff if at 60fps. They all recommend 60 as a baseline and after using it at lower than 60 I can see why

[@iceeagle2000]

Thanks for the video biggie, not entierly sure how this works haha. I'll have to look into this more

[@biggie_boss]

Listen. I don't know either but it does. It's some sort of sorcery.

[@AvatarV]

It just works my friend

[@lilpain1997]

I'm going to assume it's similar in what fsr and Nvidias frame gen does. It adds fake frames in-between real ones, these are fake as they are of a lower quality and will also introduce input lag. It's why 60fps is recommended as a baseline as the artifacts and input lag get worse the lower your fps, this isnt really a thing for going from 30 to 60, it's more about going from 60 to 120 or hitting 200+ on high refresh monitors.

[@luislandrum4874]

​​@@lilpain1997 Do yourself a favor and don't assume. Thanks 👍

[@tholir]

Oh baby a triple! Oh yeah!

[@kaidokob]

Biggie, I wanted to know about the character ghosting issues. Are you facing them? Have you fixed it? Or can we overlook it since ghosting is the only downside of frame generation? I would like to know if you fixed it or are playing with it.

[@ZekeTheSimp0]

I have a weird issue where when I turn it on and go back into skyrim, my whole screen just goes black and I can't do anything. I have no idea why.

[@SilentAssassin01234]

That is a Skyrim issue. It strugggles with tabbing in and out unless you are running it in borderless windows.

[@ZekeTheSimp0]

@@SilentAssassin01234 Yeah that's the weird thing though. I went into SSE launcher and changed it to borderless windowed and it still did the black screen thing.

[@SilentAssassin01234]

@@ZekeTheSimp0 I would use the SSE Display Tweaks mod. That’s what I use and I can tab out fine

[@kasmidjan]

@@SilentAssassin01234 ah i see

[@imlegend8108]

Does this also work good with variable framerate? For example I got a 4080 super and i5 12600KF. And while most modlists work just fine with 60FPS in 1080/1440p in the wilderness the FPS can drop pretty segnificantly in the cities. With Lorerim I had 29FPS at some point in Solitude 🥲 think that was the worst example Ive experienced. Usually its still above 40 tho even with much trouble going on. If this could fix those eternal Skyrim FPS problems in cities thatd be great. Also is this a problem everybody has? Bcs even with a 4090 I couldnt see it alw being 60+FPS in large cities when you enter. The FPS stabilizes once youre in the middle of it bcs not everything is loaded infront of you. It seems like as no matter how strong the PC is at some point the game just cant keep up. The GPU as well as the CPU are at 50% at best in FullHD and even switching up to QHD barely changes anything. Maybe some drops in the wilderness. Only in 4k you can see the GPU reaching its limits pending between 50 and 60FPS. That makes me believe that even a more powerful GPU wouldnt change toooo much. Maybe a bit. Its a bit like with Oldrim back then. Just not as drastic. The game is still playable :^

[@Creslin321]

Wow thank you for this tip! It honestly seems too good to be true, but I am playing Nolvus Skyrim and it works great! I can now run Nolvus at 30fps to save my video card, and this little app bumps it up to a smooth 60! My room isn’t an oven anymore from my 3080 room heater running at above 80c, amazing!

[@The_HappyHollow]

Nice to see its being updated, awesome video biggie

[@soulshunter3831]

I tried it and don't like it for 3 reasons: - noticable input delai (makes camera precision bad, you will get mad for aiming stuff, wich is what you do when you play skyrim) - visually wierd when moving the camera (hard to describe with words) - having to launch the program everytime you play skyrim Definitetly not worth it ..

[@calmkat9032]

And here I thought 4k 240hz was still years away, but I've seen lightweight modlists that I can run 4k 80hz, and that's on a 3070!

[@robbrg246]

When screen capturing it only records the actual frame rate not the generated frames. So it will look way smother in person than the video

[@patrikbodnar4408]

I get weird ghosting artifacts around the edges of the screen. Like it is blurred... Any idea why?

[@ioverslept.]

Probably cause its generating frames...

[@baumapfel4463]

it is normal and cant be avoided with this type of framegen. for me it is not to distracdting, but if it bothers you to much i would refund it, because there is nothing you can do to avoid this.

[@Ricardoromero4444]

How does your character not go invisible? When I do these exact settings my third person character disappears with any amount of camera motion. Same with first person weapons.

[@frvits]

It's pure wizardry is what it is. I got it a while back for Dragon's Dogma 2 and Cyberpunk 2077, since my GPU doesn't support official frame generation (RTX 3070) and I was surprised by how well it just works with no discernible downside like input lag, or the jittery UI you get from frame generation mods. Even the upscaler, I've found that looks/performs better than those in-game for most cases.

[@daethmer7834]

Really no issues, like input delay or those weird black artifacts? I watched some video about using this with Cyberpunk and crosshaid was blinking entire time

[@frvits]

@@daethmer7834 there is *some* but not as much as what I've experienced with mods that do the same. The frame gen mod for Dragons Dogma 2 makes the UI so jittery that it bothers me. It's not perfect, but it also depends on how low your actual frame rate is. The lower it is, the more input lag you'll notice and the more artifacts will show. But that's the case with all frame generation. In my testing, if you're getting 40-50fps minimum, you're fine.

[@AnxieTraining]

Thanks you so much my friend !

[@KNIFEDEFIANT]

I have been trying Lossless scaling on plutonium launcher (free call of duty). One of the games i play mw3 i typically get avg 130fps on medium to low settings. When i use Lossless scaling it literally makes everything worse i go from 130 to 50 or 88 fps and sometimes the lossless app will dissapear and my game will be locked at 60fps when i fullscreen it. Need explanation or help please.

[@scalpingsnake]

Definitely gonna try this. I have been getting 144 frames for the most part, in interiors and outside in less intense areas, looking at the ground/sky etc. But they can also dip quite substantially. I like my game looking good but i really like my frames, while frame gen isnt technically extra fps, if the input delay is low then who cares I suppose. I know it can also potentially cause ghosting/artifacting i think. Hows you experience with it in general? Do higher drawcalls affect it? How is it in the notorious skyrim locations like falkreath?

[@biggie_boss]

Skyrim runs on DX11 so you still want to keep draw calls under 12,000 when possible. Anything over 12k will lower base FPS on any PC and the more info lossless has to work with, the better experience. Although I find that capping my fps at 40 and doing the 3x frame gen is ideal for me and I usually get 50+ fps in heavy areas.

[@bibendis9534]

Frame generation can't be captured by recording devices but it will be reflected on your monitor when you are playing. Also for any g-sync users like myself you might have to disable g-sync as you need to be within 30 frames of your refresh rate for g-sync to feel good

[@WallabyWinters]

Yeah I didn't see any changes in frame rate whatsoever

[@bibendis9534]

@@WallabyWinters I have the tool and can vouch that it works if you use it correctly

[@YouGotTheL]

@@WallabyWinters Turn off fullscreen in games

[@leandrofod]

Recording devices you mean hardware? Because softwares do capture it, and the difference is blatant. And it doesn't seem to be working in the video. At least I could see no difference at all

[@Brubarov]

So looks like I'm the only one here but my game stutters more and there is a weird bubble effect around my character when he moves... but it says on average I have 10 more FPS (on the right side of the fraction)... I don't see a big improvement at all... I don't know what to do with this... EDIT: OMG got it to work!! Put the scaling to LSG1 and Windowed mode, now I have 90 lololol Merry chistmas everyone!!!!

[@a1racer441]

that's crazy software coming in clutch with making crazy mod lists playable at high fps.

[@GainingDespair]

I have the program, I like it but I wish there was a .5 frame gen just every third frame to increase smoothness while reducing input latency. As someone who uses high refresh rate monitors I've come to notice the difference, but it's more of a feel than anything. While frame gen can increase the smoothness of the video it doesn't make it feel different, it still feels like native fps. Just because you generate extra frames doesn't make the input less you still need to wait for the next native frame to generate before the software can add a new interpolated frame. I don't like playing at 70fps to bump it up to 140fps I don't want to use 45fps to triple it to 140fps that feels horrible. We have all played a game or two at very high frame rate only for the experience to feel bad, you get very high input latency, where the time it takes to register a movement in game takes longer to update the video than low fps. Middle Earth Shadow of War comes to mind, 140fps easy yet it feels horrible, than going threw several forms I find out the game engine has horrible input latency. Something like 17-18ms at 140fps which is horrible generally the input latency should be around 4ms. I've tried to just leave the frame rate uncapped but it feels horrible, just microstuttering in some of the games I play. I would much prefer to just lock my frame rate to something like 90 and gen it to 120fps. That way the input latency is still low, so the response feels good.

[@darkknight3050]

Just leaving a comment here for the algorithm this is too peak to handle... They doing gods work now lmao 😂

[@MrMaKeMeDiNnEr]

This app made the meme "download more ram" a reality Edit: The only thing i noticed is that the mouse feels kinda funny at first but you get used to it after a while.

[@marafix427]

I don’t know why but when we tried this with my brother. The game looked more blurry when there was action combat or quick movements with camera😢

[@numroth]

Been playing elden ring forawhile for the upcoming expansion and decided to try this today as the game is capped at 60 and im using a 144hz monitor. Jesus christ its a difference of night and day and the game became so much more enjoyable to play than before

[@daethmer7834]

Are there any problems? Input delay, screen tearing, weird glitches artifacts?

[@1enonly]

Needs answers too man

[@numroth]

@@daethmer7834 playing with it all day yesterday i havent had any issues really. Works like a charm. For input latency havent felt anything major other than its easier to track of attacks now due to the higher frames

[@geerochanel]

I think it's the best solution for low-end PCs, but if u have mid bakery it's better to use payed DLSS or FSR 3, cause lossless scaling has a quite noticible and not comfortable latency.

[@bunnguyenchannel3154]

Can't wait to test it!! Thank you for sharing!! p.s: what is the ENB in this video?

[@metalzen3480]

Anyone else have issues with crazy frame jitter (not sure what else to call it) in dark areas? It looks like the the frames are stuttering/shaking or really bad motion blur or somethin. Fps doesn't drop and no additional input latency or lag occurs. Other than blur and artifacting I didn't see any other comments about this issue. Overall seems to work really well outside during the day and in well lit interiors. This is sadly a deal breaker for me, unless there is a work around. Typically I get 60fps+ (with DLSS upscaling) everywhere with a couple of exceptions, outside Whiterun, Windhelm and Markarth can dip into low 40's but those areas have draw calls of 15k+. I love how smooth the 120fps feels with FG x3, I can even get that in outside Whiterun which is my absolute worst fps location. It's a shame I can't seem to figure out why it looks so bad at night or in dark areas. 3090 @ 3440x1440p, G-sync disabled, capped @40fps with FG x3 (for 120hz) I am also using PD's DLSS upscaling. Cheers Biggie, always enjoy your content!

[@niku4259]

Same for me. I tried it on fallout and during the day it's fine, but when it's night time it will start messing up like that. Apparently it only happens when LSFG 2.1/2.0 is set and LSFG 1.0 comparatively doesn't really get the tearing in dark places, but 1.0 is worse off on latency.

[@nicoroshi]

Lossless Scaling is the BOMB! I love this.

[@hyb0r]

For me PureDark DLSS (quality) + Losseless Scaling FG is the best option (RTX 3070 Laptop). Upscaling from LS is worse in image quality (tested all options, got a little less fps than PD + LS) than PureDark, but PureDark FG is not working on my RTX, so Im getting best from both worlds. Ive noticed some blurring on edges of screen, but acceptable. And yes, input lag is noticable, but ok for me. FPS locked on 48 (144Hz screen), resolution changed from 1920 to 2560 and got lik 80 fps in Riverwood (heavy modded, mostly 2k textures + ENB)

[@fazureofficial]

Wow it actually works

[@mudalad1215]

DXGI makes my cursor disappear entirely, idk how to fix it.

[@0The0Beast0]

How do you cap your FPS? With 60hz monitor, I would need 20 right?

[@biggie_boss]

I wouldnt go that low. Try 40 fps at 2x

[@isaacengelhardt1934]

You know it's true because he's running HDT-SMP on his hair

[@johnbell4328]

Great find Biggie! I'll be interested to see what I can do with this.

[@astral_projections]

Buying this the second I wake up. 4k everything here I come.

[@lilpain1997]

That's not how this works and it won't magically make your games better. You want a baseline of 60fps as this isn't real fps, it adds frames in-between the real ones and is recommended to have a baseline of 60 due to input lag and issues that can arise. It's not something that's going to magically allow you to play games at 4k. Even with the upscaling part ( as it's not 4k then )

[@quemsereu2009]

So this is just like fram gen. It goes from 30 to 120 but still feels like 30

[@lilpain1997]

@@quemsereu2009 yup, it will feel worse technically as it adds input lag. You would need reflex or AMDs anti lag to bring it back down. If lossless has one those then yeah it will feel more like whatever your base frame rate it. So 24 fps would still feel like 24fps, just look like 48 ( but with a ton of artifacts)

[@vonklinkenhoffn1]

This seems amazing! What about quality though, is there a noticable difference in the rendering with and without it?

[@PC-023]

HOLY SHIT!!!! I just tried this out on a heavily modded GTA 5 and went from 55 - 58 FPS to 165fps

[@biggie_boss]

[@beyondt9001]

@@biggie_boss Does Loreim use the same mods as NGVO as a visual baseline?

[@PC-023]

@@biggie_boss Gonna try this on Lorerim later today!!

[@biggie_boss]

@beyondt9001 NGVO was forked from LoreRim

[@adamantine001]

7 USD in US but 4 USD where I live. The Devs just straight up killed AFMF which is insane. AMD's method of driver-level frame generation would put a strain on the GPU, it is also super inconsistent and adds noticeable input delay. LSFG does a better job at consistently (although janky) generate frames while not affecting input latency in games. Speaking of AMD, since they acquired the baseline for FSR tech from an Indie Dev's app that features dynamic resolution in games in the past, I'm curious whether the same thing will happen to Lossless Scaling.

[@maidenfan724]

Do you cap your frames at driver level, with another program, or Display Tweaks or such? I tried lossless scaling frame gen a while back with iffy results but I wonder if it was just my setup

[@biggie_boss]

Depends on the program. With Skyrim you can cap via ENB. You should take your monitor's HZ and divide by 3 or 2 depending on how much FG you're doing.

[@maidenfan724]

@@biggie_boss Gotcha thanks, was jw because I usually use the control panel and tend avoid using ENB’s cap but I know it works a bit differently with DLSS framegen (control panel cap caps after framegen rather than before), gonna try lossless scaling again now to see if it is different

[@gregorkovacic8224]

​@@biggie_bossWhats the difference between dividing by 2 vs 3?

[@mfvicli]

Damn... my Nexus payout could not come any quicker. I am going to do a test, Loseless Scaling vs PureDark's FSR-3 mod. It'll be interesting to see how the two compare. If it's better, I might start a new series for this utility 👀

[@ImNoah]

Have you compared them yet? I'm quite interested in the results :D

[@mfvicli]

@@ImNoah I have. The program is very good, though I would still recommend PureDark's upscaler over Loseless Scaling. There are simply too many graphical glitches to be considered usable. Daniel Owen explained it better here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmmQanqsZb-pmKc The program was nearly flawless in other games, Minecraft being one of them. I am going to keep it, but I will not continue to use it in Skyrim.

[@ImNoah]

@@mfvicli Great to know, thanks!

[@stocadg]

games gets super contrasted. and looking weird, noticed my characters movements went all weird too

[@freeziex]

Been trying to use this but for some reason when running the upscale on 1440p Lorerim it cuts off the screen. Like I can't see my HUD anymore and misaligns the Better Third Person Selection.

[@Kman1989]

BIGGIE PIN THIS lol. Just wanted to comment and say I use a 1660 super and it DOES indeed double my fps but I had to use the AMD FSR setting so much older cards DO INDEED work!

[@biggie_boss]

I have a different message pinned but I'll quote you

[@miaw1232]

Is it stable? What modlist are you playing, and what fps are you getting before and after u install lossless?

[@Righteous_people_in_Sodom]

This is much astonishing than fsr or dlss

[@pwnomega4562]

rtx 4090: 2000 USD lossless scaling: 7 USD makes sense from an economic standpoint. this tool is incredible. i was able to achieve 60 fps with pathtracing on in Cyberpunk with a 2080 ti. all because of lossless scaling. it's crazy because that's some cards on par or similar to the 3090 struggle greatly with. with that being said capping my frames to 20 and putting the frame gen mode to 3X it produced alot of warbling and artifacts even making my character's head flicker. but i still think how impressive it is to be able to hit 60 fps with pathtracing regardless on a 1st gen RTX card.

[@thelustyargonianmaid5427]

WHY DO I HAVE THIS SCREEN TEARING??? not tearing like no VSYNC...more like ripping apart. It's like it rips the screen apart when moving. Every model is moving very strangely...What feature is it conflicting with? It's like having a reeeally strange acid trip in 3 fps..

[@Dregomz02]

Enable VRSS support and put "enable tearing" on off. You could play with the API i'm using DXGI most of the time and it works great for me in Duckstation and PPSSPP

[@thelustyargonianmaid5427]

@@Dregomz02 Well VRR Support is outdated and it doesn't work now. I don't know what VRSS is but it's not an option...It's really like an acid trip on solid 3 fps... I don't know what to do..

[@acidfluff5910]

Does this perform better than puredarks FG?

[@RiceCubeTech]

Puredarks needs a certain minimum fps to work well, and does not work for everyone. Also it’s only a 2x at best in my experience. Also occasionally shits the bed requiring a restart at times. I’ve yet to try this but looks way more promising.

[@acidfluff5910]

@@RiceCubeTech So I just tried it out and yeah, it's better than Puredarks. The only downside is the upscaling, which didn't look very good with it, so I just used Puredarks dlss upscale and lossless 3x FG together and holy shit it looks amazing and plays at a locked 144 for me at ultrawide. I' m playing this with a customized nolvus list and there's no issue, it's like butter lol.

[@johnryan3622]

Thanks for the heads up!

[@silentgaming2487]

So if you are using the x3 frame gen, you need to cap your fps at the third of your monitor refresh rate? Or am I getting this wrong?

[@biggie_boss]

That's correct :)

[@cottenceauarnaud7401]

​@@biggie_boss you don't mandatory need if you enable vertical sync in LS because that way LS will only generate frames up to your selected settings (X2 or X3) OR you monitor refresh rate (the first that is reached). So even if you can reach eg 45 fps flat and your monitor is 60 Hz then you will not get x2 (90 fps) or x3 (135 fps) but only the needed to get to 60 fps (less generated images might be wanted for less artifacts for example) but if you cap to half or third of your monitor refresh rate you might get some artifacts but you will also use far less power from your gpu (good for notebooks). matter of tastes and priority :)

[@drivethrupoet]

@@cottenceauarnaud7401 this is a great explanation thx!

[@robbrg246]

This also works with movies and shows in your browser

[@antoniogivaldri5184]

This sounds really good, but how big of a visual difference is there? I already tried fsr3 for Skyrim, from some dude's patreon, and it worked amazing, byt even on ultra quality the game looked too bleah for me.

[@gyro0232]

Why y'all talkin about skyrim is it demanding ?

[@OniZenko]

​​@@gyro0232 Heavily modded Skyrim is demanding. We are talking about 2K+ mods with 4K textures and extra clutter w/3D LODs. Also a bunch of stuff to make it more "current gen" such as physics and ray tracing

[@Randive]

THANK YOU A LOT FOR THIS

[@retrogamer847]

I have many questions about this software 1- should I turn on vsync for this lossless scalling software in nividia control panel ? 2-i played rdr 1 in emoulator and the fps between 40 to 55,is it good using lossless scalling for these type of fps ? 3-what I do for a game that locked at 30 fps and my monitor 165hz

[@Dregomz02]

1) do you have a screen with freesync/gsync? if so then vsync should be disabled since you have VRR 2) it's better to lock your framerate to lowest average framerate otherwise your pacing will be all over the place, maybe lock it to 50-45fps and check if it doesn't drop further. PS game runs much more smooth on Xenia emulator (but it has more bugs) 3) 30fps will triple it to 90fps so it will feel much more smooth but nowhere near your monitor's refresh rate

[@ranggafirdaus8932]

Is this only works for Nvidia RTX-Powered graphic cards? Or will it also work on Nvidia GTX graphic card?

[@biggie_boss]

I think it's RTX and anything that is compatible with FSR. Not sure about GTX

[@marcvnart8717]

it should work with non rtx cards since lossless scaling uses its own frame gen rather than nvidia's

[@ranggafirdaus8932]

So I can utilize it with my GTX 1650 Super?

[@marcvnart8717]

@@ranggafirdaus8932 i just tested it on my 1660 super and got a stable 120 fps on my heavily modded skyrim (Locked the game to 40 and used the x3 option), there is some not so noticeable imput lag but holy fuck, literally free fps for non modern gpu users like us

[@ranggafirdaus8932]

@@marcvnart8717 thanks for the help, by the way the functions of the apps can be a long-term use even if I later buy an RTX graphic card right?

[@jonathongamez69]

Not sure if the enb is conflicting or what but I’m using lorerim and whenever I enable loss less the fps counter shows my 40 frames go to 120 frames but the screen goes black and I can’t see the game anymore just the fps counter

[@paimog9233]

it works on almost any application even on chrome to watch and convert 30 to 60fps videos

[@themanhimself436]

How are you tracking fps in top left, and how are you limiting fps to 40 Also I get a yellow border around skyrim when I activate it.

[@michalot84]

Dude ! It works ! That's just insane, I have 144 fps Nolvus Skyrim :D

[@peteri9973]

Was really excited about it but for some reason as soon as I click scale my pc just crashes, I had my friend try it on her PC and it didn't crash for her but her mouse icon wouldn't move so she had to alt and use task manager to get out, is there something missing? :( I followed your vid to a T too and I have a 4070, thanks for sharing this though!

[@BigotíndeLeche]

Ok I hope you can answer this but, doesn't ENB require you to use fullscreen mode? LS is made to use on windowed mode right? So, should we run the game windowed mode or fullscreen with ENB? Another question, if I wanna play 60 fps, do we have to enable or disable Vsync in game? Since my monitor doesn't have 120hz.

[@Dregomz02]

LS only works in fullscreen borderless mode you can't use it in small windowed mode. It doesn't matter if you disable/enable vsync if you don't have a high refresh monitor and game already had 30fps cap

[@cottenceauarnaud7401]

@@Dregomz02 of course you can use LS on small windowed mode (border or borderless) but you need to enable upscaling to make it fullscreen

[@kingofall9262]

It's is just to increase the number. How is the input lag? Like, it is 100fps but runs like 20fps.

[@irishvirusgaming7373]

Damn you just helped so many with older hardware.

[@astrojeet]

I just used it and my mind is completely blown. It's literally free 3 times the fps. And there arent even artifacting unless you stutter. Once again, my mind is blown. And if you play around with the settings, the input delay is non-existent.

[@danhobart4009]

How?

[@ravingcrab8405]

"Scaling Type: Off"? What would this mean, though? I guess I shall find some in-depth tutorial on this intriguing program, hope my RX 7600 can handle this well

[@biggie_boss]

Upscaling like DLSS

[@ravingcrab8405]

@@biggie_boss IDK why, but I for some reason suddenly forgot that resolution scaling is separate from frame generation, thanks for waking me up xD

[@timuravar8229]

Since most graphic cards can run this now, what CPU would be recommended?

[@slimeytoad]

Why’d my FPS get worse after scaling lol Just had to change my fps cap to 55 now it’s glorious*

[@LionOfGondor]

Weird thing when trying, getting a blur effect???

[@anterasosuke]

I'm assuming this dosnt work on a 1080ti. Is it too old to support this?

[@baggawagga6331]

1080ti user here,downloaded it yesterday and its witchcraft man. Just use the framegen function it will look the same and works incredibly well.

[@anterasosuke]

@@baggawagga6331 yeah works well on mine to actually still keepin it at x2 to be safe

[@kohtas]

Nice, now I might actually be able to play LoreRim maxed out on my 3060 😊 gonna give it a go when I get home.

[@thomasmason7524]

How did it work out?

[@kohtas]

@@thomasmason7524 it worked decently, it wasn't amazing but that's because I had to cap it at 40 FPS and only have a standard 1080p monitor so I would see a bit of blurring around the edges of my screen. If you can manage to cap at 60 FPS and/or have a 1440p monitor it would probably work much better. It was playable but ultimately I went back to Wildlander which is another Requiem list but isn't as graphically intense. If you have a 3060 I wouldn't bother with LoreRim because you'll never get the performance out of it without seriously chopping the list itself up.

[@lushbIood]

wow 👌 decided to do a quick check this morning and it works 2070 super running nolvus ascension rudy enb at 40-60 fps at 1080p now on 44/88 to 55/110, rarely dips below 70 and 1 or 2 stutters during crowded fights

[@SilentAssassin01234]

That’s insane considering Frame Gen is only available on 4000 cards currently. This must bypass that somehow

[@miaw1232]

Im sorry but what is 44/88 and 55/110?, and your fps before using lossless is 40-60 right?

[@lushbIood]

just a quick update, I LOCKED my fps at 40 on enb and using x3 like the youtuber here I am currently running a smooth 120 fps consistently everywhere

[@lushbIood]

​@@miaw1232 yes it was, now it's enb locked at 40 fps and performing at 120 in my eyes and gameplay wise. it's the smoothest I've run nolvus

[@lushbIood]

​@@miaw1232make sure to LOCK your fps because I crashed when my native fps would increase and the the x3 would fuck my shit up 😂

[@HoodRed69]

on emulators its amazing too on dolphin im get 180 fps on soul caliber 2

[@swordman2390]

too bad does not work for me im using gtx 1050m 16gb ddr4 ram and i5 8300h it turns out this lossless scaling needs at least medium level system or gpu to work properly 😒

[@matty_mls]

Sorry but this doesn’t work for me, every time is use it my screen just goes black, any way to fix?

[@thisusedtobemyrealname7876]

You need to run games in windowed fullscreen or borderless fullscreen for it to work. For the smoothest experience you will also need to cap your framerate in game. Check the manual of the program also, it can be found in the mainscreen with all the other settings.

[@ruinerwinclair8618]

great video!! helped me a lot! but i got a little problem. I donwloaded this on top of nolvus, now my game is very bright i and i dont know how to change that. any suggestions?

[@SIMRROOKIE1994]

Heyy great video, but why when i trying Ghost of tsushima, when i activate scaling is letterely very lagy? I dont understand what i have to do ingame settings? Thnx

[@shai-lin7836]

hey i have a stupid question but can i use this together with frame gen for any game that supports frame gen? for example frame gen plus this on cyberpunk?

[@biggie_boss]

You can. Latency will increase but it will work

[@frog6054]

I lose more fps with this? There are tons of stutter

[@zandoe]

Same here, have you found a fix for it?

[@solehuddinasir]

the game need to be in borderless window