The Untold Doug Walters Story From The Underarm Incident | Rush Hour with JB & Billy | Triple M

Post-1981 underarm incident, Doug Walters met Rod Marsh in the rooms...
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[@dtrainmclean4867]

Trevor Chappell never conspired he just did what he was told by his captain

[@kevinmorden9767]

I thought the same thing Trevor did nothing wrong all Greg.

[@Boomer1156]

I watched it live, Greg Chapple thought he was going to get a standing ovation and be a hero, he thought wrong, and he made sure he would never apologise and he didn't, disliked him ever since

[@stewartmcmanus3991]

A mate of mine worked with DW at Rothmans and I went with him to meet DW at Perth airport when he was flying over for a Shield match. What a great guy. Then later he got 100 in a session, pity there aren't more like him instead of the un-smiling lot we have nowadays.

[@outlawrip-offartist4161]

Fun fact that One Day in played in Sydney was Doug Walters last one One Day game.

[@bertgoat]

that wasnt the worst chappell skulduggery of the day, he stood his ground when caught out by Snedden and the stupid umpire said he missed the catch because he was looking for short runs. everyone who had a tv and saw the replay at the ground knew he was out except the moronic home town umpire.

[@trevorwhitton3975]

Hmm...hardly untold. Quite widely known back in the day. The story from a direct Doug Waters quote was that it was 2 days later, the bowler was Allan Border, and the bet was $20. Never heard the yarn about the conversation with Marsh in the dressing room, but it sounds a bit fishy to me.

[@TheCleaner76]

Bill : Is Doug still with us 😂😂 bit like Keith Richards

[@davidbrown217]

Just like 'Sandy'Warner Chappells' moment of madness left a stain on Australian Cricket that Sir Don wouldve been ashamed of and what both of them are remembered for.Thanks for that boys.

[@mickinferrera8743]

It was actually documented and well known that Bradmans team and other teams ball tampered heaps. There was just no cameras to pick it up. Even Lillee and Thomo said when they fielded the ball on the boundary they would rub the ball on the concrete gutter that ran around the outside of the ovals then to rough up one side.

[@99waylon]

Unfortunately, Brian McKechnie didn't have a week to think about it as Doug Walters did. I wonder if Doug Walters would have come up with that idea with a minutes notice that he was going to be given an underarm ball. I doubt it very much. Also, the way McKechnie handled himself that day was a true credit to him.

[@davidgraham8299]

Get over it you butt hurt kiwi. And I remember McKenzie tossing his bat, so no, he didn't handle it too well. Not that I blame him.

[@pistolpetenaki]

Last time I check as well Sydney not even close to the Melbourne cricket ground in seize .. so it’s utter rubbish to compare the situation

[@sugarnads]

He said he could do it when they walked off AFTER THE GAME.

[@julianbutterworth2272]

What Chappell did was disgraceful however, this is just a funny story so get over ya selves.

[@markp1549]

@@pistolpetenakiThough Cairns hit a couple of one handed sixes at the MCG so timing is everything.

[@tweakintrax6097]

Doug Walters was a great of the game and after retiring from International play he toured Australia with a group picking the best local talent to play against the touring west indies 2nd eleven in my home town .On this day I got to watch my fast bowling mentor opening the bowling for Doug and later in the days play also watch Augustine Logie Hit Numerous sixes with at least 2 leaving the ground completely 7 in total or so. Also got to meet Tony Greig and Ian Chappell and my dad asked them to sign my Match record and Tony Greig Stopped and Ian Chappell kept walking tony then called him to stop being a dickhead and comeback and sign my book and they both signed my book and Tony said to Ian give me the ball he then handed me a 4 piece white ball still remember it like it was last year wonderful memory . Side note Ian Chappell your still that stuck up shit twat I met when I was a kid and to Tony Greig thank you sir you were true gentleman RIP

[@D800Lover]

I don't believe you.

[@donaldstewart444]

I remember his brother as a kid in kenmore in the 70’s80’s. Family trait I’d say. AB who bought gc’s house was a completely different person to kids.

[@sugarnads]

​@D80i do. And steve waugh learned to be a stuck up asshole from him0Lover

[@noonenowhere2007]

Doug Walters - Aussie Cricketeer - prob. a massive cheat

[@RidetheGeoffening]

@@noonenowhere2007prove that

[@OCCUPIEDNATION]

Pure genius. Shame I only saw him in the '72 Ashes when he had a poor season. Would have been good to have seen him at his best.

[@flamingfrancis]

Some of the baseball skills from Doug from Dungog coming out there. Pop up batting practice. Doug and other Hunter region cricketers like Gus Gilmore used to put a team together that played around the traps. Some of the shots he played would never appear in a coaching manual....he is one of a kind.

[@mickinferrera8743]

I remember Greg Chappel did the same in a televised charity game. The ball rolled along the ground but it wasn't in line with the stumps so he didn't charge. He stood there flicked it up with his foot and hit it for 4. He didn't get a six but I remember it clearly and the look on his face was like " there you go that how you hit a ball rolled on the ground". I reckon he was dirty he didn't hit it for 6. The laughter of the crowd of when the bowler signalled he was going to bowl underarm turned to astonishment and silence even though he only hit a 4.

[@jacktattis]

Trevor Chappell did not conspire to bowl that ball he was against it, but Greg was his Captain and he had to do it .

[@dennispicone6801]

Well he didn't have to do it, but to appease his captain at the time, who also happened to be his brother, he did it. I don't know many Australians who were happy about it. In the Marsh camp on that subject. 😂

[@jacktattis]

@@dennispicone6801 It was a dumb act lik3e Smith Warner with the bottle top incident They ruined the player who actually did it Career

[@raviscott4853]

​@@jacktattis Warner was, is, and will always be, a dog. Darren Lehmann (top bloke, as opposed to the aforementioned p.o.s) resigned as coach because of that dickhead, and Bancroft is the only player who's career hasn't recovered. Can't wait until he retires or realizes CA won't call him back into the Test squad and he spills his guts about the short-arse gutless Warner.

[@gavinscott8903]

Loved Freddy my favourite cricketer when I was young & playing. Been to a few sportsman nights out here to see him & he tells some funny stories bout skull O'Keefe

[@nigelfuller1840]

Fact check: True. Graeme Pollock did exactly the same thing in South Africa a few days after this happened to prove it can be done.

[@mickinferrera8743]

Yes he did. Greg Chappel also done it in a charity game years later to prove it can be done. He only hit it for 4 didn't quite carry the boundary

[@BigGordon112]

They did a replay of Walters doing this just to show people it could be done. I remember watching this on tele a few days later

[@letstalk3265]

Doug Walters is my second eldest brother's hero. Doug inspired my brother to play cricket with passion and flare if and when the opportunity needed it so. (We all saw him score that 100 in a session and marvelled.) He was playing in the 13A's at school at the same time Doug was playing test cricket and in one game he made it into the 90's quickly. At 91 he hit a six straight over the wicket keeper's head. Full control of the shot just like his hero. By this stage a crowd had gathered to watched a rare century. If you scored a century in any team at the school you were presented with a brand new cricket bat at the next school assembly. Rare and huge in a all boys school. Much to everyone's dismay my brother was retired by the coach on 97. It was a Christian Brothers school and the scumbag was one. I use that term because throughout his interactions with my family including my gentle Father and many others, he left that summation clear and without doubt. Obviously no new bat, Dad bought him one to say thanks for the good grace and sportsmanship he showed to his team mates and all present. Doug would have been proud of my brother. They accidentally met many decades later at a bar in Sydney. Just the two of them and he plucked up the courage to say gidday to his childhood hero and shouted Doug a few beers or three. One of my brother's happiest memories. For me, my cricket heroes are two men from the same era who were both prodigies. Don Bradman and Archie Jackson. Prior to entering 1st Class cricket around the same time, Jackson's stats were better than Sir Donald's. That's saying something. His Test debut at 19 years of age against England in the 28-29 series he made 164. He died 4 years later of TB. Many believe that if his health had been robust he may have rivalled Bradman as the greatest of all time. All conjecture but what a contemplation, two amazing talents on the planet at the same time. Both playing for our country against the Poms. However, fate handed all of us the genius that was The Don. Oh to be there to watch his 309 not out in a day at Leeds. In a day. I know Barry Richards did similar for South Australia in a Shield game. But this is test cricket on uncovered pitches with the simple bats of the day. 309. In a day. That along with his average will never ever be surpassed. Maybe the good Lord ordained that one cricket prodigy at a time was enough. God bless both of them.

[@blueenglishstaffybreeder6956]

Brother you sound like a cricket nut like myself and I too know many of the facts and stats that others of mere intellect know, I’m with you on Archie Jackson, have always felt the same way that it was such a tragedy that he didn’t play for as long as the Don, you and your brothers story are fascinating, would loved to have been a fly on the wall to hear their conversation, bet your brother had some stories to tell from Bobby, ohh I wish I had the skill to play along side some of these characters, I have a thirst for their stories and knowledge, sadly they’re all starting to fall off the perch and some of their stories with them, tho it’s their history and character that make them immortal to the likes of us, I have one claim to fame, as a 16 year old fast bowler one day at the MCG in 1987, myself and a half dozen mates wagged school for a 1 dayer, we were sitting near the nets on the ground and Dean Jones came in for a hit, we were early for the game and he came over to the fence and asked “ do any of you boys wanna have a bowl ?” Of course I took the opportunity, and of course he spanked me all over and back over my head on several occasions, I couldn’t believe how far he could hit a ball and every time I had to go fetch it I’d be buggered coming in for the next one, he was always my idol and at the end of it he signed my ball and gave it to me and said you earn’t this one son well done, I still have it to this day. Thanks for your story mate

[@AndrewMeek-e9e]

Great story! I agree about Jackson! We lost a great cricketer way too soon! He was honoured by his teammates with pallbearers; Bradman, Woodfull, Ponsford and Vic Richardson...from memory. I'm certain he would have had a great career!

[@ImAmadHawksSupporter]

The don bradman and Archie Jackson story as an Aussie reminds me of the sachin Tendulkar and vinood kambli cause if vinood hadn't of let his partying and all that get the better of him he would of been better than sachin Tendulkar many reckon obviously not the same as don bradman and Archie Jackson cause he died of terbuuculosis but many believe he would of been better than don bradman

[@stephenholmes1036]

He hit two centuries in a session , West indies and England

[@susiekopp3578]

Also did it against the rest of the world team in 1970

[@stevensmith8876]

That is precisely what i thought when i watched that game on tv when i was 12 years old! I even yelled it out to my father.

[@grellis6483]

My recollection of the story was that it did take Dougie two goes but the new version of the story is much better for posterity! 😂 Of course, the SCG no.2 oval was also the scene of an earlier legend of Doug's which is that - if memory serves me correctly - as a schoolboy playing for NSW, he hit the ball out of the ground into 'Kippax lake', a large pond in the adjacent Moore Park.

[@MrDAVIDRACE]

What a great story thats fantastic. The great Douglas Walters.

[@markp1549]

Yeah and Walters caught a 3 metre barramundi and saved a child from a burning building the same day. What a load of shit.

[@jayannan9897]

That settles that then. Hahaha, I love that story!!

[@delawarecop]

When I was at High School in Gladstone in 1981, Alan Border visited for the day to encourage young players to pursue a cricket career. AB told us this story, and it wasn't $100 , but 2 Cartons of Beer - Dougie liked a Beer, or two, apparently.

[@timburns6423]

Even if he charged down the pitch, there would still have been an appeal for lbw.

[@alwaysright3718]

Clearly you don't know the rules of cricket...

[@timburns6423]

@@alwaysright3718 Do explain.........

[@richardmiho]

14 at the time and still remember it like yesterday. Most of us kiwis are over it by now 🙃

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

I was 20, and I would hope you Kiwis are over it now. So much water has gone under the bridge. It was wrong, and I hated it when they did it, but at the time, it was not against the rules. Plus Greg admitted he had a major brain fade and also admitted he was too burnt out and should not have captained that series. Cheers

[@richardmiho]

@@BatMan-oe2gh well and truely over it and if nothing else this incident led to a huge interest in cricket in NZ. I was at the first match after this at Eden park where a lawn bowl got rolled out. Right or wrong it was a special time for cricket and our countries.

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

@@richardmiho I remember that one. It was so funny. As said, Greg was so wrong in doing that, but still happy that we can have great cricket games between each other. I see Kiwis as Brothers, not Little Brothers, but equals to us. Nice country as well as have been there twice. Cheers mate

[@flamingfrancis]

Yep, our ANZAC mates might be over it but the bloody pommies always regurgitate it !!!

[@mikespearwood3914]

@@flamingfrancis Nah, kiwis are relentless with it!

[@adriang6259]

Would love to hear the confirmation from Doug.

[@ant13665]

it's in marsh's autobiography.

[@Ulbre]

Dougie holds the Sydney to London 44 beers record. Marshy had 45 but he went Melbourne-Sydney- London...and unfair head start ....then Boonie chimed in with 51, but Dougie still claims unfair advantage as Boonie has the Launceston- Melbourne-Sydney head start.

[@AndrewMeek-e9e]

JB it was DK Lillee who told Bacchus about his record and the early dropped catches!

[@stevehughes1510]

Yep Greg made the call and those aussies in close proximity went 'no way mate'..............an absolute brain fart that will NEVER be forgotten..........we can talk about it now in hushed tones..........lol

[@daviddilley8310]

Heard this story before. Doug was one of my boyhood heroes. He conned Rod out of the money, although I'd be stunned if either new the Law "Hit the ball twice". Doug would have been out under this Law if there was an appeal. Even if there was no appeal, runs can only be scored from an overthrow. so, you might hit the ball over the boundary, but you won't get any runs.

[@craigmillman3421]

Untold story, told in Allan Border’s first autobiography 30 years ago….

[@jc7671]

If the ball hits your ball first you can’t be credited with any runs if you hit it after initial contact. So it isn’t a 6. What Walters did could be done by any batter but any runs scored would not be credited to the batter.

[@woopimagpie]

Pretty sure that only applies if you hit it twice with the bat. Doug Walters kicked it up with his foot then hit it.

[@garybates5505]

WRONG! You can be out caught if the ball goes from pad/body to bat

[@ankush94]

That's Hit the Ball Twice , Law 34 in those days.

[@agl1138]

yes

[@agr7879]

Even now, all these years later, I still find this the most disgraceful thing ever seen on a sports field. Only an Australian would even consider such a thing……Buts that’s one hell of a story! Interestingly, Walter’s averaged nearly 50 in test cricket

[@flickrmark]

I believe South African Clive Rice did a similar demo on camera a while later.

[@Boomer1156]

I heard that story to, it's what Dougie Walters said he would of done, he never actually did it...but l hope l'm wrong

[@stewartdavies929]

Greg Chappell AND Trevor Chappell conspired? Greg was captain and made the call.

[@flamingfrancis]

As I recall it Trevor was not the most willing participant you's ever see. Not as obvious as Iron Gloves though.

[@renekok351]

Did you blokes ever get Dougy on?

[@jediroya6810]

Allan Border tells this story and it’s a little different. In the change room after the underarm game Doug said this is how you hit it for six: down the track, off the foot, bang over mid wicket. So next day at the nets the whole team was trying it, even the kiwi players and they all had a good laugh together.

[@ervinstewart8222]

No respect for the game,guess it's always no sprite of the game for those Australian

[@darrylmackie9184]

Good call Greg, the cleverest man on the field.and we got the cash.

[@pbryan1967]

He needed a 6 to make it a “tie”. No such thing as a “draw” in one day cricket. Also a bit harsh to say Trevor Chappell “conspired”. He was ordered to do it by his captain. Doug Walters hit a 100 in a session not once. But THREE times. He might be the only batsman other than Bradman to do that in a test career.

[@alanmehta6448]

I think it was just a prevailing theory. I doubt it ever practically ever happned.

[@JV281]

Trevor bowled the prefect grubber - play it first with the foot and then hit it is either out LBW (it wasn't going to turn on pitching ... the only doubt is whether it might have bobbled on the crease line where centre guard is marked) or clearly out "hit the ball twice" - you can't play the ball in two separate shots - see rule 34.1.1 The striker is out Hit the ball twice if, while the ball is in play, it strikes any part of his/her person or is struck by his/her bat and, before the ball has been touched by a fielder, the striker wilfully strikes it again with his/her bat or person, other than a hand not holding the bat, except for the sole purpose of guarding his/her wicket. © Marylebone Cricket Club 2017 - first played with foot and then second play with bat so sorry boys - great story - but any international umpire would have ruled McKechnie out (either LBW or HTBT) if he did what Walters suggested

[@clintonjacobson3282]

Rolling ball off sides. Now if you put your foot out DRS would say you out no mater how far down the wicket are

[@VITOMIRPAPUGA]

I have heaps of respect for Rodney Marsh. 0 respect for Greg Chappell.

[@deepsouthNZ]

That wasn't the only controversy in that game the umpires also cheated remember Sneddons catch the umpire claimed he didn't see

[@bartoni79]

Why did the umpire have to inform the Batter it was going to be bowled underarm?

[@shaundgb7367]

I suspect it was like you have to inform when you want to change what side of the wicket you are going to deliver from. In this case let them know you will be bowling underarm. It is amazing it was legal in the rules back then and somehow Greg Chappell was aware of it.

[@thelovwoman]

I guess that’s why that gentleman was the New Zealand Prime Minister at the time !!!

[@markp1549]

@@thelovwoman You’re kidding - Muldoon was a hard arse - makes Dutton look like a commie.

[@davidhemsworth4098]

Marshy would've saved himself $100 if he'd appealed for hit the ball twice

[@kenf6437]

Yeah but Dougie knew the grabber was coming!

[@Callidus47]

A dog act by yet another Chappell, backyard cricket in the Chappell family would have been intersting

[@alwaysright3718]

it was genius, well done Australia you won!

[@michaelslavin1601]

Your wrong straight off the bat, Trevor never wanted do bowl it underarm!

[@Kingmick58]

Love it.

[@keithwilson1554]

Doug Walters Beer and Scotch drinker?

[@kenf6437]

grubber

[@pauldobson2529]

A good umpire would give it out for hitting the ball twice under rule 34.1.1.

[@gabriel222]

Old news. It’s been told many times

[@warrencundy]

Watched it live everyone in NZ is disgusted how that went down in the Rules like the 2019 World Cup tie on the Super Over oooh u lose we hit more 4s & 6s in the Tournament than u ! Of course them they change the rules & what about the throw for the run out hits the batsmen 5 runs utter crap that rule too

[@D800Lover]

It was a gift to New Zealand. They haven't stopped whinging about it ever since. They should say thank you.

[@markp1549]

And I always give Jardine a wee prayer for destroying you with bodyline which was 50 years earlier and you still go on about. 😉

[@markp1549]

Bullshit, wouldn’t have worked. Chappell’s roll was right on the stumps and if McKechnie toed it up like a soccer player he would have been out LBW. Walters clearly didn’t watch what was happening out there. Glad to see Edgar flip the bird to Trev. Batter should have placed his box down and hope it would jump up a bit. But this is hindsight of course.

[@shirleyhunt8918]

He would have been out hit the ball twice. See law 34.

[@flamingfrancis]

Does that rule not apply to the ball contacting the bat twice?

[@alwaysright3718]

@@flamingfrancis yes the op is wrong...

[@NicholasSans]

Backi Marsh!!!

[@FredNerk57]

Rod, call Doug and ask for your money back. A batsman is only allowed to make two distinct attempts to play the ball if it is to protect his stumps. In any case, no runs can be scored in those circumstances. Kicking the ball and hitting it with the bat are two different plays. (Otherwise, why have you never seen a batsman swing at a ball he's padded up to and it's stopped dead at his feet?)

[@iansings7428]

You are right about double play of the ball, however, if he didn't kick the ball but only presented his front foot forward for the ball to bounce over he should still be allowed to strike the ball as it rises. Ps. i am not a cricketer, but legally if his leading foot was planted would he not then be able to make his "first defence" of his stumps?

[@Mr-Damage]

​@@iansings7428 no technically he is correct however the umpires decision has been made and so Doug gets to keep the hundy

[@shaundgb7367]

I could be wrong but I thought Allan Border did a trick like this in a one dayer between Australia and South Africa in the early 1990's. Some bowler for South Africa messed up in his run up and the ball came out and Allan Border somehow went up to it and hit it for six when it was on the ground. Maybe he kicked it up. Wish there was footage to check what he did. Maybe it went for four and my memory playing tricks on me. Whatever he did it was odd thing to see and hearing this story I wonder if the Doug Walters trick was rolling in his mind when he did it.

[@MiddleClassMafia]

Holly mother of Krishna. Ganpati level of genius.

[@syedzaidi6241]

Worst Incidence IN ThE HISTORY OF ONE DAY CRICKET and WILL NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN SHARIQ

[@OrbvsTomarvm]

aussies love 'embellishing' their stories.

[@TomAtkinson-gq2wx]

Would like to hear about the time that Doug got banned

[@brettbrett9973]

Unfortunately this show is being aired in SA in 2025. Lost me MMM.

[@thevillaaston7811]

Australians can dress it up as they will, but the underarm incident was still a dreadful act of unsportsmanship.

[@stevesalkas9128]

Nz cricket was in trouble chappell was talking with a nz player don't worry leave it to me ...Australia went to nz next season grounds full....

[@markp1549]

True it was actually good for NZ cricket as we didn’t give much of a shit about the game before that (it was all rugby rugby rugby).

[@Bernie8330]

Absolute rubbish, if you let the ball hit your foot without first trying to hit it with your bat, the 6 leg byes are disallowed, and on top of that if you are in front of the stumps then you are out lbw. Nice myth.

[@DennisD-m2b]

Not true! Be the same if a ball bounced off your thigh guard and then you tapped it with the bat down to fine leg. You'd still get the runs! Bouncing off the toe is exactly the same! It's only if it hits the BAT twice!

[@Bernie8330]

@@DennisD-m2b No you don't. Batsman's person then bat is leg byes IF HE TRIED TO HIT IT FIRST. So no, you don't try to hit the ball, it bounces from batsman's person to bat, leg bye laws apply.

[@MachineThatCreates]

The underarm was somewhere between weakness and cowardice but it was not cheating. Nothing wrong with "using" the rules...exploiting them even.

[@RealistVK]

JB exaggerates like a foul mouth

[@outlawrip-offartist4161]

When it comes to the under ball incident I have one question why was that even a rule to begin with.

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

Before that happened, it actually was not illegal to bowl underarm. It is now, as they soon changed the rules. Otherwise the Ump would have called it a no ball. Cheers

[@gzeuskraiste]

Overarm used to be illegal in the old old days. I would guess nobody thought to make underarm illegal because after overarm became the preferred method, there was no obvious reason why you would want to bowl underarm - enter one-day cricket which provided that reason. An extra complication was that until recently, the Laws of Cricket did not include anything specific to one day matches, so they were played under Playing Conditions agreed on per series, in addition to the Laws. Underarm was banned in a lot of ODI Playing Conditons, but not the ones for this series, presumably an oversight.

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

@@gzeuskraiste Spot on, once they went to Overarm, they did not bother to change the rules. They are changed now. Cheers

[@tonyq39]

Sounds like typical Brayshaw BS to me, 🙄

[@Geoff-t3l]

Greg Chappell, never a great after this disgusting decision.

[@grandadneal8114]

Same match snedden takes an outfield catch umpires said not out. NZ robbed

[@garybates5505]

I called bullshit from the kiwis then and still do.It was legal. Us the rules to your advantage. Mckechnie wouldn’t have hit it past the bowler anyway. I would have done it in a heartbeat

[@FredNerk57]

McKech as a batsman was playing his secondary skill at his secondary sport (he was mainly an All Black) and had no reputation as a big-hitter. I know it was in the rules but Greg panicked. If he didn't think Trevor was capable of bowling a ball a No 9 batsman wasn't able to hit off the park (and then the MCG was in area the biggest cricket venue in the world) he should have got somebody else to bowl that over instead.

[@davidgraham8299]

@@FredNerk57 Greg mismanaged his bowlers that day and left himself no other option than to bowl Trevor.

[@markp1549]

He was a tough rugby player and Trevor slow medium - easy six.

[@garybates5505]

Why isn’t anybody telling me what was wrong with it?I just watched Ankle Kohli shoulder charge a bloke in his first test and practically nothing done Why ankle? What’s 3 feet above a girls ankle?

[@roosters1711]

That story is absolute rubbish. Nonsense. Never happened

[@Callidus47]

Then there was Sandpapergate, another Aussie 'accident' lol

[@666myname666]

Great douggiue. None of the Hindu players from RSS india team would have thought this.