Tristan Harris: Beyond the AI dilemma | CogX Festival 2023

[@jamess7178]

This video should have millions of views. Tristan is one of the few that gives me optimism for an otherwise bleak trajectory.

[@ChrisBrengel]

23:30 Tracking progress is increasingly hard because progress is accelerating. So ai's could get smarter than people and we won't even know about it. This is all terrifying!

[@michaelkhoo5846]

Many thanks! I can use this in teaching. Next time some links to the papers and articles mentioned would be useful. Note that your satirical reference to Boeing at about 28:36, may in fact be true ;)

[@gerdpublicthinker]

nicely done Tristan

[@andycampano]

Great talk about what's coming

[@alaalfa8839]

If people will start to enjoy ordinary things like.....empty room, to relax, instead of a cluttered room, with stuff. Exercising in nature, instead of playing videogames. Giving some money to the poor instead of playing in a casino or being obsessed with bitcoin etc. Ordinary things bring much more joy. and you may start with slowly stopping watching the tv. The less you will watch it the better you will feel, create your own program. Then you realize its easy also to watch social media less.

[@goodie2shoes]

Why not just simulate this. A sandbox game with literally just sand. Or a VR forrest. Hunting for some hidden homeless dude who you can feed coins to. All from the comfort of your own livingroom while amazon drones in your food and supplies.

[@Other3.5]

I remember reading a letter we received from the head of a major fund in which my company was invested. He sent out the letter to investors following the 2007-8 financial crash. The fund manager stated that: "We have decided that we will no longer invest in assets we do not understand." This was after the crash, which was in significant part, caused by our unregulated financial derivatives market. The fund manager, whose fund had been around for decades, had invested heavily in derivatives - which they did not understand. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[@alwaysyouramanda]

12:47 “1000 eyes, they’re in the walls. They’re in the walls.”

[@americanexpat8792]

As a retired engineer who worked in Tech for a significant portion of my career, I think all the gloom and doom are overblown. We will figure it out over time. We have to understand that AI today is nothing more than a large regression model. I have done a tremendous amount of modeling in my career and we need to understand that ALL models have limitations. This includes AI. The difference between a human and math is that a human can handle an unique situation, whereas an AI regression model is that it can handle only what it has been trained on.

[@netscrooge]

That's not what the smartest AI researchers are saying.

[@RajinderYadav]

So we should wait until AI is able to synthesize answers it hasn't come across? You're also failed to understand bad actor using AI for other destructive means. So even having access to regression models, this is already insane.

[@miscellaneousSLUDGE]

We are too far gone

[@majorhuman]

What future evidence would you need to see to change your mind?

[@user_375a82]

Its got theory of mind better than yours ... it needs that to complete the next word lol. If you believe that......

[@chriswondyrland73]

Let's face it: the genie is out of the bottle. The day after - is already, today.

[@tonyhill2318]

Truth.

[@justalittlemoretime]

We are missing accountability and who will hold them accountable? The government? ya rigth, 2008 financial crisis Lenders and banks were slapped on the wrist and then bailed out.

[@alwaysyouramanda]

It’s hard for me to believe it’s the algorithm going “you’d love this” the way it did pre-2016

[@svegritet]

Thank's How about AI and synthetictelepathy? It is already in use.

[@ScorpIron58]

My comments (3 & 4 down) were not made on here, I don't know how they got here, as they were made on Joe Rogans' podcast EP. 2076 where he has Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin on. Strange ......

[@mrpicky1868]

unlike a BS Ted talks. this video is on point and factual. really would be distributed so at least ppl would know that they are on rail tracks and the train is coming

[@johnclark5115]

This guy is unintentionally informing us that AI is in the process of creating a world where 3/4 of the population are non working and have all their basic needs satisfied, while the remaining humans will be the adventurers ie the hierarchy. That’s the future.

[@jeremytan739]

Does that future still have a capitalistic economic system? If so, who's going to give the 3/4 no income people their basic needs.

[@chriswondyrland73]

it's about just consuming for the masses versus driving and controlling it for the few. Think of pets and the pet's master. This kind of relation we must expect, given the current trend lines. tldr: Red pill. Blue pill.@@jeremytan739

[@tuckerbugeater]

The future doesn't need us. So many people had to die to get this they don't deserve it.

[@mainstreet3023]

They’ve had advanced AI for years. Under the covers. Highly advanced.

[@jasrob22]

The reason this has so few views because it contains truth and tries to educate people. At least half of our uneducated country does not believe in truth or want to hear it. We are doomed.

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

And the part that is educated, that believes in truth and would accept to hear it, doesn’t have the slightest idea what’s really going on and honestly doesn’t really care

[@goodie2shoes]

doomed? I'm having the time of my life. Will it all end badly? Most likely. Enjoy the ride till it all burns down to the ground. We are a dumb, worthless species anyways. (with very few exceptions)

[@ollydix]

Part of the hype machine from Silicon Vally

[@graphicsdesignbeforeafter]

Last question is, ‘what do the corporations want? I guess dominance thus profits….we’re deep deep deep into s*it😢

[@FirehawkVFX]

George hotz thinks Tristan is wrong about open source. He says the only way to beat an illegal weaponised AI is with another AI.

[@warpedweaver100]

Ask AI to predict how new AI will effect the world every time a new capability is released.

[@zacharydaniels3186]

I appreciate the warnings, however, all the examples of "AI bad", were discovered precisely because this tech is open to the entire public red teaming this tech. If you want to have safe AI, don't keep it in the box and have intellectuals and philosophers "control" it. They can't possibly think of everything. Open source created the security of the internet. Open source is the best and most expedient way to create safe AI.

[@therainman7777]

No, you’re wrong. They weren’t all discovered by the public, and once the technology involved becomes powerful enough, having the public “play around” with it to look for weaknesses is simply not an option.

[@zacharydaniels3186]

@@therainman7777 right. "Once technology becomes powerful enough" is a nice rhetorical phrase.. meaning you are pointing to a theoretical problem as if it already exists based on an assumption that has no predictive power. If people were completely unconcerned about the doubtless negative effects that may well come from this tech I would be worried.. but they are so I'm more worried that the powerful will try and regulate this for their own gain and insure their perpetual incumbency.

[@therainman7777]

@@zacharydaniels3186 I understand that that’s what you’re more worried about. I’m trying to tell you that you’re mistaken, but of course nothing I say will convince you because you’ve already made up your mind. I have been working in this field for 17 years and I can tell you with absolute certainty, the technology _will_ reach a point where putting it in everyone’s hands would be a guaranteed death sentence for us all; calling that “an assumption with no predictive power” is a statement showing such confusion that I honestly don’t even know how to respond to it. I’m not saying this to insult you, but if you can’t see the writing on the wall then you either don’t understand the underlying tech well enough or you simply haven’t been paying attention.

[@kamu747]

​@@therainman7777And there are also other people who have been working in this field for 17 years as well who disagree with your pessimistic outlook. Which means it's a matter of opinion.

[@rickymort135]

​@@therainman7777having an open internet where anyone can download a virus will spell doom... we must stop it!! Except that didn't happen and you're mentioning nothing about the accelerated development of countermeasures when a technology is public open. What makes for better bug free games, a hand full of company testers or releasing it to the public? Your strategy isn't even safer on its face, it's concentrates power in the hands of a few. What happens when the value of human labor becomes negative and we become value sinks instead of value generators, what will those monied interests do then?

[@ThomasBaxterSoutar]

The truly worrisome outcome of this video is it's only been watched by 14K people and liked by about 1k! That's truly scary! A video on KZbin about a frog vomiting can get 20 M likes...?

[@GeneBaker-im4gh]

This is way bigger than climate change. 99% of the population needs to be more knowledgeable. When I tell people this will disrupt their lives, they "look at me like I have ten heads." Just like the movie: "Look up"

[@tomsadventures1001]

Very informative presentation , and very disturbing.

[@nobody-u-know]

It's hard to take Ryan Reynolds seriously.

[@Kay-rp1fz]

The real danger seems to be bad actors using the AI

[@miscellaneousSLUDGE]

This is worse than nukes

[@ThomasBaxterSoutar]

To make this really worrying...I uploaded some chemical molecules diagrams to the MML of a number of LLM LMM of models... Then asked questions that made it look like I'm a researcher (i am) instead of a terrorist... Almost all models told me how to manufacture explosives easily... And even inform me on how to do it safely with attention to HSE... That's just chemistry... the stuff that can be done with psychology and people like Skinner's research is ??? Exponentialy apocalyptic

[@claritas6557]

It's not Rike-ja-vik Reykjavík is pronounced Ray-kja-veek the a in 'kja' is long, as in 'ahh', not 'ay', roll the 'R' and make sure the 'K' is always strong.

[@silberlinie]

It's not entirely clear what you're trying to say ...

[@RajinderYadav]

whatever NPC

[@alaalfa8839]

Soe facebook groups make no sense some share some strange, nonsense comics...... aggressive, negative, very childlish, its like 3 years old mentality at the same time. Before comics used to be polite and funny. Its like you spend so much time on Tik Tik, that you lose touch with common sense, or suffer from emotional detachment.

[@svegritet]

What already are innovated in AI is Hard to reinnovate. Do we need to control humans to stop the dual use of neurotechnologies? Ask neuroscience!

[@tonyhill2318]

"What can i do to redirect the path we're on?" I'll tell y9u this: the answer is nothing. Not just me...nobody can change it.

[@tonyhill2318]

Those are real harms, and if we slowed it down, they're still all gonna happen...maybe just a bit later

[@tuckerbugeater]

He seems a little too excited. I wonder what his true motivations are? Maybe the AI will expose.

[@DRock70]

Frightening

[@_digital_mind_]

Open source all Ai is the solution

[@jackymarcel4108]

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[@proviah4770]

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[@canadiangemstones7636]

Is proselytizing in YT comments _really_ what Jesus wants for you?

[@goodie2shoes]

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[@ThomasBaxterSoutar]

Lol Marilyn Manson x

[@nefaristo]

Somehow, precisely because he cherry picked what he sees as dangerous examples to scare the listeners, even if he honestly admits it he sounds more suspicious on a gut feelings level and that scares me less. An AI script would have probably done a better job connecting to my emotions 😏

[@MarissaKiddy420]

You are sadly mistaken and in for a very rude awakening! AI is replacing life as we know it and will become more robotic like a figure in a video game but feel like jail. The life of freewill is closer to non existent every day and having our minds and emotions controlled is the governments reason and gets them one step closer to wiping society out completely and AI has the ability to end our existence! These are proven facts!

[@tonyhill2318]

Youre right...AI is going to very soon be the most persuasive agent on the planet. This in itself has terrifying implications