Jiu Jitsu Class Moves of the Week: Tai Otoshi & Arm Bar - Cromwell CT

[@daveallen5342]

Great ones. Tai otoshi is great he has his other hand free to hip block and vault as a defense BUT but it's a combination of not having your hips there to support him if he does ... hips farther leg closer and keeping them at the same time squeezed close upper body they can't and it sets up the other turn throws etc. And that's one complex arm bar if you beat them with that turn them into some kind of fancy cooked goose. It makes sense. It's all lining up ... of course that style arm bar on a lesser opponent is available immediately with kesa.

[@Tuldoka]

Just a tip for the tai otoshi, more weight should be distributed to the tripping leg. Around 50-70% is what's recommended. It minimizes counters to your front, and shifts the contact points towards the hands and shin instead of at the hip. If you're putting more weight on your pivot foot, you might be better off switching to a throw that better leverages the powerful hip contact. Tai otoshi's main advantage is its blinding speed. Check out Lee Won Hee highlights to see what I mean

[@mirzad19882]

This.

[@jedijudoka]

Cool. A few days ago I was considering a koshi guruma hybrid like you demonstrated. My favorite variant is the seoi otoshi, the second you showed. The traditional tai otoshi grip is tricky for me.

[@zedek_]

"Our *Jiu Jitsu* Classes this week at the Cage JSA in Cromwell CT will be focusing on two main *jiu-jitsu* moves. If you're interested in learning these *BJJ* moves" Hey fellas, I have a sincere question. Why are you referring to Tai Otoshi as "BJJ moves?" You are even using the proper Japanese ( *Judo* / maybe original JJ ) term for it. Granted, I understand that BJJ is ~90% Judo Newaza, and that the emphasis of training is on the ground, unlike sport judo... but at this point, what's the difference between something like this and Freestyle Judo (who _does_ train on the ground)? You take their newaza and call it BJJ, and now you're taking their throws, _and also calling it BJJ_ ? Before anyone says "It's all just grappling anyway;" _then call it grappling_ . Why specifically call it, and claim it, as BJJ? Helio sure as hell wasn't throwing Kimura around! I think it's totally fine if you take things, as long as you acknowledge where it came from. *And no, not everyone knows* ! I've literally had to argue with ignorant people that BJJ did not invent leglocks, and even armbars! There is a reason why they are so misinformed... Edit: Maybe I'm just sensitive about it from seeing other people actually claim techniques like this, and it was just a "slip of the tongue." After all, it's possible you took this technique from original Jiu Jitsu, and did not intend to refer to it specifically as a BJJ move... but rather, you were just inviting people to train BJJ.

[@darthwolfX2]

Agreed

[@tritacacademy]

I am inviting people to train with us, and I don't think non Jiu-Jitsu people even give a shit what the name is. Also, the Tai Otoshi wasn't the only technique demonstrated in this video.

[@zedek_]

@@tritacacademy Whether other people give a shit about anything is completely besides any point. I'm criticizing you for (possibly) claiming _the technique_ is from BJJ, when it is definitively not. I am _not_ criticizing you for the specific label you have given the technique. "Also, the Tai Otoshi wasn't the only technique demonstrated in this video." So what? How does that, in any way, address my specific criticism?

[@tritacacademy]

@@zedek_ oh Jesus Christ... OK bro you win, next time I mention Tai Otoshi or any other "technique", I'll make sure that I give a full history lesson first.

[@zedek_]

@@tritacacademy Is it so difficult to briefly educate your audience, or give credit where it's due? "Hey, this is a cool Judo/etc throw I wanted to show you guys today..." This immediately stops any possible misinterpretation. In the end, it's up to you. Have a good day.

[@nonyabizness2550]

Can you do tai otoshi with an ippon seoi nage grip?

[@tritacacademy]

Yes! I use it alot. But to honest, I'm not sure if it's still considered an Ippon... Some judo or Jujutsu nerd will correct me :)

[@nonyabizness2550]

@@tritacacademy There is a seoi otoshi variant where you step the foot outside your opponents like tai otoshi. But...its still a throw where as tai otoshi is a ''trip''. I want to use the ippon grip to trip them with taio because I dont want to load this 300 pound dude on my back! Lol Tai otoshi will drop any size human but I dont like the grips much. I like the ippon grip because i can do osoto, kouchi and seoi nage off it. Im just scared to seoi nage a huge guy but its my main throw otherwise! I have seen the trip version done with ippon grip, but a lot of judoka say its bad form. Then a judo black belt said its a more powerful tai otoshi. Im like...what could be bad about a more powerful tai otoshi! Judo nerds welcome!

[@MrKahunadog]

Tai otoshi, great move to develop. I think a pro of it is jits guys are often so back attack focused they will end up going for a ride and getting thrown/scored on initially thinking they're going for the choke/backpack. Keep posting good videos guys. Edit. The finish gives the arm all day as well. At the least top.

[@PLAY-xg3rl]

This is kubi nage

[@tritacacademy]

If you want to get technical it's Kuki Nage Otoshi

[@kettlebells-ez9xi]

Good video guys. And yes no one really cares about the names or where the move comes from except that other guy in the comments. If it works it works and many styles use and borrow from each other. Keep up the good work

[@KlgoDomingoOrtiz]

Sorry guys, but this is not "tai otoshi" Tai otoshi is a "te waza" it's means "hand technique" You must clarily desequilibrate your oponent with your hands in the direction you want to throw him, then you block his feet or steps with your legs. This technique seems a kubi nage, apart of your neck grab, it's couse you use your hip to throw him. I practise Judo and Bjj, I love the two arts, but generally when a Bjj practiser show a Judo technique this happens, thats little details make the diference in Judo

[@richardsilva75]

Nah, this os not a tai otoshi

[@tritacacademy]

Ok cool