Triumph Tiger, Terrible Tick-Over! If you can't fix it, it's gotta go! (Part 1)

[@Dumdm]

H Jim! Huge fan from Sweden here. Just got to say that your waffling is extremely educative. I love how we get to follow you through your entire thought process. That is a large part of the reason to why I became I Patreon. Keep up the good work!

[@SuperbikeSurgeryTV]

Thanks Mate 👍

[@MikeBond-m4l]

Apologies for not introducing myself, I'm a Pom, but resident for over 40 years in South Africa. Owner of three Triumphs, two Daytona 675s and a Speed Triple 1050, one D675 being in the past and the other two current. From experience, basic throttle positioning and TPS setting is critical. I don't know the diagnostic software you're using, I have the old Windows version of TuneECU, which seems to have some functions I did not see on yours. After setting the idle stepper actuator cam clearance (simple mechanical operation using a feeler gauge), TuneECU is used the drive the throttle butterflies to the closed position (via the stepper motor), and the TPS output voltage measured, if it's outside set parameters the TPS is moved to get the correct voltage). Then the software drives the stepper motor to fully open and that voltage is checked. From memory, it should be about 0,7V. The value may vary for the Sprint, but I'm pretty sure the basic process is the same. Once that's done, the stepper motor adaptation is cleared and the ECU re-learns by starting the bike, no touching the throttle, and idling until TuneECU confirms adaptation is complete. By all means check for vacuum leaks, but I recommend doing the outlined procedure first. A check of a Triumph manual for the exact clearances and TPS voltages would obviously be necessary. Good luck, and I look forward to the next video.

[@tomsworkshopprojects]

I really find these ones fascinating, the level of understanding of the engineering going on is so valuable. Even if I never work on a bike like this, I feel my understanding of the bigger picture grows, one reference voltage at a time 😂

[@michaelbull9428]

I look forward to these weekly videos

[@craigmarsh3221]

Hi Jim audio sounds fine to me great video

[@ShootingAir]

lunch, heck I eat my breakfast while watching. :D Funny how I've been doing this myself for 25+ years and I still get joy out of watching others (and occasionally learn stuff, never too old/experienced to learn something new)

[@garycoates8201]

Such bad memories. Exactly what my 2000 Sprint ST 955 used to do (same engine and electronics). In and out of Fowlers which cost me hundreds. Triumph UK even provided a replacement for the engine wiring harness. The issue was always described as the throttle position sensor, symptoms were always fixed but then a couple of months later the same problem came back. Very nearly packed in bike ownership altogether. Looking forward to see if you can find the issue that creates the throttle position problem in the first place. If the only answer is recalibrating the TPS tell the owner to flog it ASAP. Glad I now know you exist. I only live about 5 miles away, shame I didn't know back then.

[@nigelsride]

I love Jim's wafferling 😅 another great video Jim keep them coming, learning so much. 👍

[@TheMostDangerousWayPossible]

Best motorcycle channel on KZbin!

[@PaulMappud]

Most interesting, no substitute for experience, I'm going for "it's been fannyed about with, with no clue how to set it back up correctly"...

[@TringmotionCoUk]

I've just bought a very unwell tiger, so I am paying attention 🤣

[@ingeebeltoft]

You are so clever and Im learning so much. Have a good weekend 😎

[@alanfrazer3291]

Fantastic, my Sprint ST 955i does the same thing, tickover is high and hesitation at constant speeds..... I'm looking forward to seeing how you fix it....

[@blastingweevil2968]

can hear you just fine

[@jonathanspencer8305]

Thanks for another upload. Always love carb videos too!

[@ianmurray3820]

Extremely interesting video, knowing a basic functional flow through a system is half the battle.!!! And you are dead right , :- intermittent faults are a tail chasing exercise .. looking forward to the fix..😁💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@flibbertigibbet6200]

I had virtually the same issue on my GSX1400 03 I was restoring. Turns out it was the TPS and secondary TPS Once sorted it ran like a dream.

[@jayc1116]

If youve got to remove tank ( a job in itself) check stepper motor unit and pipes . Liking your approach to the work and your video.

[@diggy-d8w]

That is a good looking bike.... I know nothing of it's power or specs as they don't matter here/now. Just a fine LQQKin' Bike

[@Paul-899cc]

Great video. Should be interesting when the tank comes off. Entertaining & educational 👍. Give me a carb bike anyday 👍😂

[@peted7295]

Fascinating as always.

[@markbrown-us4xe]

Filming.must be hard on a couple of brain cells. Thanks and we appreciate you spending the extra time. Your videos are like receiving a present.

[@Ricardo58_]

finally now I can eat my lunch

[@SuperbikeSurgeryTV]

😂

[@philcross1215]

Me too. Tommie souperbike surgery and a triumph tiger roll

[@julianpritchard2558]

I’m here for the waffle .

[@weekendmodeller2740]

Yep I see what you say about the jigsaw, one piece at a time. Thanks Jim.

[@richardtaylor2449]

Thanks for the diag' Jim strange problem 😎👍👍👍👨‍🔧

[@sandall1491]

Following intently, my Speed Triple 955i loves a good iffy idle !

[@markmiller5577]

Love the graphics

[@markmenzies4218]

I'm going for butterflies not closing properly due to dirt. or someone's been messing with them.

[@MikeBond-m4l]

Can you please explain why, at 24:23, the display shows Throttle Closed Position at 107%? Surely it should be close to 0%. TPS is in the wrong position, I think.

[@mathewjones5520]

No issues for this call sign with the audio, clear as a bell over

[@paulcrane2010]

Loving your work Jim. Think you need to reload the parts shotgun, this time get and engine check light 😂😂

[@martinowl]

A great vid as usual. As many comment, the waffle is invaluable, don’t apologise. For a mechanical/ engineering numpty like me, makes it understandable.

[@kevinwilliams4899]

I had an 03 one of them and it always dropped the revs quite quickly after cold start, within a couple minutes always.

[@clintanthony1779]

The more waffle, the better. Waffle on Jim

[@markaddy53]

great video as always next video please

[@FREE_PUREBLOOD333]

I'm thinking throttle position settings immediately.

[@raymorris952]

Idle speed control valve. Me thinks. Or split breather pipes to throttle bodies.

[@mkanalytics1355]

Cool AI pictures for all of the videos lately. Good stuff!

[@module79l28]

Was the fuel tank screw loose while you were riding or was it the camera that made it look like that?

[@bjrnhjjakobsen2174]

Vacuum leak or o2 sensor or tps sensor

[@scottbowles9574]

Looks like he’s got some decent miles on the bike, almost 60k….

[@sirkitchalott]

🏍️ Audio is fine... Do people really complain (get a life)... Oh, please stop making these videos so addictive - was late picking up the wife 😅

[@sharg0]

I think he has three reasons for wanting better audio: 1 - Make it easier for us to hear issues and noises in a similar way to what he does so it gets easier to explain what he is reacting to. 2 - Allow us to enjoy the well tuned bike when he is done with them. 3 - Be able to speak over the running engine in a normal voice without stepping away or dubbing afterwards.

[@sirkitchalott]

@@sharg0 fair comment! Great vids nevertheless

[@ridervfr2798]

I am first! Yay, rode my 93 V-4 to work as I do every day, got a 91 too. If you look after something it will last, especially if it was well designed.

[@julianwilson5468]

TPS?

[@jamesweber4938]

Do you have a particular day that you post your videos ?

[@sharg0]

He usually drops them every Friday at the same time (about 12:00 GMT if I remember correctly).

[@ReCheck_WotTheFluck]

👍

[@robbie2awesome]

Makes me want to got to a waffle house and order a huge plate of waffles that does! Vid 2 awesome XD

[@Alienargg]

I only watch for the waffles 🧇