Which 2022 Ducati sportsbike is best for novice trackday riders? Supersport vs Panigale V2 vs V4

[@rotoehu9266]

Amazing how far the electronics have come, even 10 years ago the proposition of ‘which Ducati is best on track for a novice’ was analogous to ‘which chainsaw is best to brush my teeth’ 😁

[@timrodierides]

As an ex Ducati 1198 owner I 100% agree! I would've been *so much slower* on the 1198 than even the SFV2.

[@jbrosupra]

​@timrodierides most people dont wanna hear it but most people would be faster on a slower bike.

[@seneca175]

Lol, good comparison 😂. Ride safe 😉

[@danieloconnell4225]

I've got a V2 and a 950S; I'm a bit farther along than a new rider on track, but nowhere near what I'd call a veteran. I find the SS actually has better suspension for track work when set-up properly than the V2 (thank Ohlins for that), but I'd agree the soft seat makes moving around on it a bit sloppy. Did you or someone else set up the SS Ohlins for track work, or were they on 'stock' settings? Stock settings are definitely set for street work only. The V2 is quicker and falls into corners quicker, but I find it lacks composure compared to the SS, and on a shorter track with more corners, I think a good 950S rider will beat a decent V2 rider due to the better torque curve and suspension. I suppose it all depends on two things: what kind of track are you on, and how good the rider is. I've had guys on bikes with less than 100hp blow my proverbial tyres off, and blow the tyres off guys with much more powerful motorcycles than mine. Ducati isn't cheap; owning more than one means you either made a mistake or are well-off; if you can only own one and commute or ride cities a lot, I say the 950S is the best choice as it certainly makes a decent track ride and is great around regular roads. If you're looking just for a track bike, I think the V2 is close enough to a V4 (which I test rode several times) that the massive price difference isn't worth climbing. Ego-aside, I like my 950S with its full Akrapovic system best - plenty fast by all but superbike standards, and in my view, looks better than any other Ducati that doesn't have V4 in the name. Cheers.

[@timrodierides]

I imagine all the bikes were set for stock - I was sharing them with some (much lighter and all female!) riders. Thanks for watching and the comment though

[@danieloconnell4225]

@@timrodierides fairo! The 950S is set up pretty soft out of the factory - massive difference if you dial in those Ohlins as they should be for track work. Glad you had a good day!

[@rodneyrayner4178]

@@danieloconnell4225 Hi Daniel, can you tell me your track settings please, and your weight ? Many thanks.

[@USAracing]

Im not well off and I own 3. A S2R , 749/924 racebike and a 996S. You just have to know how to manage money and not waste it on the non import things in life. The only reason I dont own a newer Duc is I dont like them too much electronic and dumb wings. I may buy a R1M instead

[@scottcain6386]

I liked my 950ss ❤I loved it!!!

[@gavin4423]

Great video with a surprising conclusion, that adds weight to the theory that you don’t have to thrash a motorbike to it’s limit to have a fulfilling time on it. Loved the voiceover too.

[@Rick1984FL]

Fitting because wife and I are heading to Ducati tomorrow to inquire about a deposit on a 2023 v2…in that gorgeous rosso white I can’t get out of my mind!

[@Druezy]

Good luck and enjoy! The white with the red looks so gorgeous, I can't find one in a showroom just so I can look at one haha!

[@Rick1984FL]

@@Druezy they have all been bought up in my local market too; the closest I’ve been able to find to show my wife is the supersport s in white. With any luck in 3-5 months i shall have one in my garage.

[@LambChopRides]

Love that Tim 👍👍

[@timrodierides]

Cheers mate! Did you spot your slow-mo guest appearance?

[@LambChopRides]

@@timrodierides haha yes 😆 slow mo, slow moob more like 😆

[@kirkdunn1379]

I have heard a few others say same about V4s.....just very easy bike to ride and surprise its actually meant fir doing this sort if thing, 😂 I am here cuz one passed me on my way to LA filtering on the freeway, I was taking a back by how beautiful the bike looked and sounded.... Truly a piece of machinery

[@ThiefOfNavarre]

I've been lucky enough to ride a Streetfighter V4S and it's the same vibes as the panigale. Super easy to ride, super civilised untill you turn the electronics down and then it becomes a firebreathing monster

[@Szlejer]

I track ride quite frequently and the simple answer is that NONE of these Ducatis are good sportsbikes for novice track riders... KTM RC390, Yamaha R3 (maybe R7), Ninja 400. These are the choices of many excellent, very experienced track riders, so I have the sneaking suspicion that they should be more than enough for a track novice.

[@timrodierides]

True, but what if you can afford a Panigale V4? 😂

[@trwilliams22]

@@timrodierides I was in novice group a few years ago and looked over next to me staged up on pit lane was an HP4 race on slicks. 🤦🏻

[@timrodierides]

@@trwilliams22 Hahaha, it used to intimidate me, but I'm content just riding my own ride these days...

[@trwilliams22]

@@timrodierides no intimidation for me- just figured he would bin it when he couldn’t keep enough heat in the tires. I was happily tootling around on my 900SS which cost me 1/20 of his bike.

[@TeensierPython]

If you can afford a v4. Buy one a year or two old and a used small bike as well. Then you can thrash the “learner bike” until you get good enough to make the v4 work well.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

You can be a great rider on the streets and really, really slow on a racetrack. Never done a “trackday” as I spent 10 years racing in multiple classes including the Australian Superbike Series. Lots of room on track? Simply means you are going way too slow as Phillip Island was my home track. It’s one of the biggest on tour however feels like it’s only a metre wide when you are at 100%. Great start, we all need that first taste as I truly believe this makes you a better and safer rider. Just subscribed. 👍😎🇦🇺

[@Druezy]

Awesome Tim, that was a hell of a day! The V4S is an absolute dream, I hope one day I can justify that level of nonsense, simply stunning!

[@timrodierides]

Thanks! I can see the marketing now - Ducati Panigale V4S: voted beginner bike of the year by Tim Rodie.

[@Druezy]

@@timrodierides At least a beginner on a V4S could never blame the bike for their poor lap times 😂

[@albertlira7443]

What a cool day! I love a Ducati. You film beautiful and interesting bikes but Ducati are just sinful and gorgeous.

[@timrodierides]

Thanks as ever Mr Lira!

[@albertlira7443]

@@timrodierides thanks for terrific content!

[@colin55594]

Got the 950 as my first bike. Wish it had a bit more power. Other then that love itm

[@kirkdunn1379]

Yeah I really was thinking about getting one, if it had CC and another 20 ponies I think I would.....fir that amt of $$$, tough to justify.....using only 1 bike

[@greenwoodoak3744]

Nice work Tim, we stopped work on said day, really excellent comparison for track use. I own a v2 its a road bike P E.

[@timrodierides]

I love the V2 on the road! Yeah, it wasn't totally pleasant temperature wise... but I couldn't turn down the offer to ride them all!

[@paulbryan1094]

I thought that was Chopsy on the Suzuki. Great video, like the track day stuff

[@timrodierides]

It was! There's a few KZbinrs/instagrammers/influencers in the footage...

[@davecree867]

Not really getting the ‘I’m a novice...’ thing - knee down, laying darkies down all over the place doesn’t sound like novice riding. Great vid though, would have liked to seen you out on the Hypermotard, and maybe even a Multistrada too! Keep up the good work.

[@timrodierides]

Well I think I'd been on track 3 times before this video, but spread over 10 years! So I felt like a novice. Thanks for the kind comment - I'd love to take a hypermotard on a short track somewhere, I miss my old 950SP.

[@vladoj9103]

Hi Tim, congratulations on what you are doing. I'm 6.4 tall and drive a Multistrada 950 S, and I really like the Super Sport 950 S, but there is no where can I try it in Montenegro. Could you make a comparison between these two bikes and whether can I drive the Super Sport as the only bike with this height? Thank you very much

[@hypermotardking]

Donington my favourite track.. love ripping my 2022 Hyper SP in fast group mixing it with the superbikes 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@timrodierides]

I'm envious! I never got around to taking my Hyper 950SP on track!

[@hypermotardking]

@@timrodierides Yeah I watched your Hyper vids.. you should have kept it

[@jamesgrant-lewis209]

Is the hyper a good daily like the SS950? I’m cross shopping between both

[@hypermotardking]

@@jamesgrant-lewis209 You’ll have way much fun on a hyper as a daily.. plenty of reviews on ny channel

[@ericlemonnier2187]

J'aime beaucoup le bruit du streefighter dans les tours.

[@edsonroadmoto]

Glad Chad gave you a great experience at the track 😊

[@timrodierides]

Something about the name, isn't there?!

[@lordgibbness]

Great video mate

[@JoeyMrTurbo]

I’ve yet to take my SuperSport to the track-I was hoping for you to love it lol.

[@timrodierides]

There's a comment on here from a supersport owner who loves it - just needs some suspension work needed!

[@DCGULL01]

So, for say $26K, i can llolligag, eat bon bons and re-schedule my pedicure for say, 4pm. All w/out breaking a sweat. The SuperSport 950 is a Monster w/ a fairing, is suitable for the street as delivered but lacks the needed stiffness that tracks demand. During the launch, Ducati went to great lengths to ensure the journalists focused on the roadgoing manners. However, it's softer, squishier & lacks ground clearance at the track. I'm pretty sure you'd have to be unreasonable to 'put a knee down' on the street... At the of the day, I genuinely enjoyed your 'peek' inside of an awesome track day & as a fellow track noob, I appreciate how much effort is required to keep sessions separated in your head to remember highs & lows for each bike! Good on ya, Tim!

[@Imotopilot]

They should have had a Multistrada V2 or the V4 (Pikes Peak with its 17” front wheel) as well. Super capable bikes on the track too.

[@FogmasterLeghorn]

thank you for your comments from a tall rider perspective. Is the 950s seat too soft or too wide for the track? I've read where the 950 seat is very road comfortable, but moving around on track is a different effort. I think ducati has some sort of trend started where they want puny short people ( under 6'1") to be able to comfortably hold the bike up at stops so they are lowering the ride position. HaHa. the v2 multistrada pics look like they have you sitting on a banana. Very nice hearing the sounds from those gr8 bikes thanks Tim!

[@photographerjonathan]

I hope someday to try doing a track day on my 939, I'm curious what camera was used that made all of the bikes look orange.

[@timrodierides]

Nothing to do with the camera, just my sh*t colour grading 🤣Fuji X-T4 mostly.

[@MrAdambinnie]

Looked pretty sendy to me mate 🤘

[@timrodierides]

Cheers mate! Up to inters next time I think. And when I say next time, whenever a manufacturer offers me a no-risk ride on their nice bikes...

[@Atlan_tis]

lol , test is not done yet, try V2 Bayliss with ohlins suspention, nice review

[@jagadeeshkumar516]

I agree

[@therealquaid1694]

Fast for a novice. Great video.

[@timrodierides]

Thanks! I've got another video coming on trying to get faster!

[@benasgud]

Which one is hotter to ride, panigale v2 or v4?

[@timrodierides]

The Pani V4. I was riding it closer to midday though, but it was definitely kicking out more heat - I couldn't really feel the V2's heat on the move

[@BossGT500]

Great video Tim, you couldn't have been that slow, you seem to pass a few people.

[@timrodierides]

Thanks Boss! I'll move up to inters. I had some good coaching on this day - there's another video coming on that!

[@sgill4833]

Exact question I was asking myself

[@jameshardy6277]

Is this a trackday where you can test all those Ducati's throughout the day? Who's the organiser please?

[@timrodierides]

It was Pirelli day, the Ducatis were laid on by Ducati UK for a couple of journalists to test sadly…

[@FootageFactory]

Pani V4S is the best Novice trackbike. I think

[@troppo4872]

Thanks.

[@timrodierides]

Thank *you* for watching

[@merwyncruz]

Does the Panigale V2 run hotter than the Supersport? Planning to get one that's mostly for street use and the occasional track days.

[@timrodierides]

My experience is the V4 runs a lot hotter than the V2!

[@USAracing]

Sausage!!?? LOL!! For lunch on a trackday hahaha. Try a banana and a good salad with chicken or tuna and Gatorade and water.

[@TeensierPython]

I’m going to guess it’s the panigale v2

[@nairbyad7188]

seriously slow traffic on track, eh? !

[@thedragonofechigo7878]

Never thought I'd see the day when the V4S, A 215hp machine is the better bike for Novices of all people.

[@timrodierides]

I know it sounds like I'm taking the piss, but it's genuinely the friendliest of the bikes!

[@thedragonofechigo7878]

@Tim Rodie Rides Motorbikes I mean, I'm not doubting you but this just shows that Ducati were telling the truth when they said they are trying to make it easier to ride. Does that mean someone with minimal experience could get one, or is that too far fetched?

[@joemeyer2726]

Ninja 400 track prep

[@USAracing]

All you novice guys need to be on a older 748 or 916.

[@timrodierides]

Absolutely, with no electronics and no safety net. Perfect. After all, you’re not a real biker until you’ve broken a few bones on track 🫠

[@DwaynePretorius]

Hyundai is the official safety car of wsbk

[@leeandrew2682]

none of them are for novices, but i imagine the supersport is the easiest to ride

[@timrodierides]

I'd actually say the V4 is easiest to ride!

[@leeandrew2682]

@@timrodierides i have only been on 848 so i have no idea what i am talking about haha

[@USAracing]

What’s 2022 Ducati is best for novice trophy riders?? NONE!!!!

[@timrodierides]

Depends what trophy it is

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[@USAracing]

Anyone over 6’1” is too big to ride a sportbike properly!!

[@demisx]

BS