The $20,000 Guitar Review | 2023 Gibson Kirk Hammett "Greeny" Les Paul Custom Shop Murphy Lab Aged

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The Trogly's Guitar Show

The Trogly's Guitar Show

Күн бұрын

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@paul2602
@paul2602 Жыл бұрын
It's beyond me why anyone would spend 50 or even 20K for a beat-up LP. Everyone knows it isn't the real thing, and it won't make you play like Peter. Think of what you could do with 20-50K... 🤷‍♂️
@rooster4906
@rooster4906 Жыл бұрын
👍👏👏👏👏👍
@gearViewmirror
@gearViewmirror Жыл бұрын
I don't think it sounds great for that price......and it's ugly af....🎸🤘🎸
@PopeyeFPV
@PopeyeFPV Жыл бұрын
You could definitely get one of each 57, 58, 59, 60 Reissues for sure! And put your own wear and tear on them with peace of mind of originality. Throw in a Yngwie Strat for good measure too.
@KakuraZenom
@KakuraZenom Жыл бұрын
For the people who will buy it, 20k is like spending 200 for us so...
@clamus68
@clamus68 Жыл бұрын
It's beyond me why you would worry about what other people spend in a Free Market Economy.
@thomasskoff4140
@thomasskoff4140 Жыл бұрын
I bought this guitar for my son to play in his high school band and the other kids made fun of him for only having the $20k version and not the $50k version.
@robertcampbell7662
@robertcampbell7662 Жыл бұрын
Screw them damn kids… my seven year old comes home from school with stories all the time… parents need to be parents and correct their pos kids… manners and respect are non existent… we used to be able to co exist with our neighbors…and even have conversations and be grateful for what we had…
@billgeezeriommi
@billgeezeriommi Жыл бұрын
Wtf kinda rich kids are those?
@darthsensei3838
@darthsensei3838 Жыл бұрын
You wanna be my dad?
@cromBumny
@cromBumny Жыл бұрын
The kids knew there was a 50k version?
@madguruJ
@madguruJ Жыл бұрын
Sorry but serves you right if your kid goes to Eton or something, nobody would even know otherwise
@drjsmajor
@drjsmajor Жыл бұрын
I love how we are acting like the $20k is the budget version. "I am surprised they did this on the $20k version" as if a $20k guitar is so low end that they could skip appointments.
@jameshughes6049
@jameshughes6049 Жыл бұрын
Regular players aren't spending $20K for a guitar.
@gustavvader2207
@gustavvader2207 Жыл бұрын
Of course not. But it isn’t for regular players. Gibson makes a ton of guitars that serves nearly every purpose.
@county365
@county365 Жыл бұрын
The only & I mean ONLY way I’m pay as much for a guitar as a small car is if I am a billionaire. Other than that, I’m gonna wait until I can slap down the $3200 for the Gibson USA version.
@jameshughes6049
@jameshughes6049 Жыл бұрын
@Gustav Vader My comment was in response to Trogly saying if you're just a regular player, you'll like this guitar. Regular players can't afford it.
@jameshughes6049
@jameshughes6049 Жыл бұрын
@@county365 Exactly.
@gustavvader2207
@gustavvader2207 Жыл бұрын
@@county365 I feel the same way. I couldn’t possibly live with myself for buying a $20,000 replica. You’ll love the one you find! Good luck!
@eddiejr540
@eddiejr540 Жыл бұрын
I play guitar because I love the music…my guitars are just tools…I have no interest in owning any of this stuff, however, it is fun and interesting to watch!!!
@kevingreen3365
@kevingreen3365 Жыл бұрын
Either one costs more than the regular player would be able to afford. Neither would be something that I would be comfortable gigging with. Cheers to those that can lay down that cash for either. My wife just gifted me a used Dean Dime Slime ML and the $1,400 she spent was still ridiculously expensive to me. But I love it, and her lol Also wanted to share how I had to explain my “First Fret Neck Depth” shirt at church on Wednesday night… 😂 I love promoting your channel. Best on KZbin!
@edwardgonczy3170
@edwardgonczy3170 Жыл бұрын
I'm 70. I had the opportunity to see the version of Fleetwood Mac that featured Peter Green on the original of this guitar at Fillmore East in the fall of 1969. One of just a few shows I passed on that history has proved to have been a big mistake. Did see Led Zeppelin 3 times in 1969 as well as The Who. But to have seen the tandem guitars of Mr. Green and Mr. Kirwan, that would have been something. Thank you for the informative review.
@deuteronimus750
@deuteronimus750 Жыл бұрын
I'm 71 and saw FM in concert in Austin summer of 1969 Green, Kerwin, and Jeremy Spencer. Jethro Tull opened.
@clamus68
@clamus68 Жыл бұрын
@@deuteronimus750 that sounds like an AMAZING show.
@johncrace911
@johncrace911 Жыл бұрын
I saw the original band at the Miami Pop Festival
@saltpeter7429
@saltpeter7429 Жыл бұрын
I passed on the DEAD at Highgate VT back in 95. I didnt have any money, so when my friends piled into a van and headed up there I thought I was good with my decision. I didnt know GERRY was going to pass away, or that the gate/ fence would be torn down making buying a ticket a moot point. I will be kicking myself until we come to Glory...
@larryburwell8550
@larryburwell8550 Жыл бұрын
But it's a beautiful guitar before Murphy got a hold of it
@EvilMerlin
@EvilMerlin Жыл бұрын
I really don't get the costs on either of them. 20k? Thats just insane, even for me that has been to 15 Metallica concerts since 1986. Hell I still have issues paying 2k for a Gibson...
@shaunw9270
@shaunw9270 Жыл бұрын
Gibson accountant "Only twenty grand , no way are we putting the stencil on the case of these!" 😅
@dalocknessroxter2027
@dalocknessroxter2027 Жыл бұрын
Something doesn't seem right about having a 50k recreation guitar, then making a lesser version of the same guitar and charging 20k for it. 20k should be plenty enough buying power for a perfect recreation. And if it's not a perfect recreation, then what are you spending 20k on?
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 Жыл бұрын
The 50k version was dinner with Kirk Hammett. That was a big chunk of it.
@derekcostello1016
@derekcostello1016 Жыл бұрын
I am waiting for the 100K recreation. LMAO you know its coming. They'll sell these guitars for what ever investors are willing to pay.
@doe53
@doe53 Жыл бұрын
@@Wargasm54 Well I heard Kirk Hammett eats like a bird so that can't be where it comes from.
@braunibald
@braunibald Жыл бұрын
tbo every good luthier can do a perfect recreation job of this for under 8k xD why anyone ever would buy one of those wont get into my head
@paulgulling838
@paulgulling838 Жыл бұрын
This version looks like an aged new guitar. Fail
@ErikSWE
@ErikSWE Жыл бұрын
I promise you there's not a single person with the money for a $20k guitar that wouldn't be able to afford a $50k guitar.
@gustavvader2207
@gustavvader2207 Жыл бұрын
$20k to $50k is a massive difference for anyone of any means.
@shelbyavant5081
@shelbyavant5081 Жыл бұрын
Baseless comment. I can afford a $40k car, but not a $100k.
@rocktorrocks
@rocktorrocks Жыл бұрын
Truth. For anyone saying otherwise…if someone can spend $20K on a casual hobby item like a guitar, $50K isn’t much more for them. If that $30K difference makes a big impact on your bank account..you’re prob not spending $20K on a guitar either. My guess, this $20K Greeny is prob targeted to the buyers who would have bought the $50K one but missed out on it due to the limited numbers.
@markn4526
@markn4526 Жыл бұрын
@@rocktorrocks That may be true for some people with income levels and/or wealth above a certain point. However for people of average wealth, $20k to $50k is a huge jump. It's not like we're talking $20k to $25k or even $30k which might be justifiable to some people for the exclusivity factor. Spending $7k on a regular Custom Shop R9 is a dream for 95% of the players out there that they'll never get to actually live. Just saying "regular" and "$7k" in the same sentence even sounds outlandish if you think about it.
@dindjarin1961
@dindjarin1961 Жыл бұрын
I was never into a worn out looking guitar. I like the brand new looking ones.
@harrisontownsend910
@harrisontownsend910 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd rather wear it out myself than pay extra to have it worn out for me.
@XxCorvette1xX
@XxCorvette1xX Жыл бұрын
Wow what an original opinion
@cromBumny
@cromBumny Жыл бұрын
I am not a Bot
@dcflake5645
@dcflake5645 6 ай бұрын
I like aged guitars that I wore. Like every scratch has a story behind it.
@davidjubbinternetmarketing1999
@davidjubbinternetmarketing1999 Жыл бұрын
I was a member of the Marquee Club in the 60's. I saw Peter Green play with John Mayall after Eric left. That was important as I am a Blues fan, they had a similar style overall. Of course, you have got the 'Hard Road' Album from that period, 1966/67. Then you have got Peter Green joining 'Fleetwood Mac' (when it was a proper Blues/Rock band). You've got the album just called 'Fleetwood Mac' (1967), 2 Albums giving us a record of those special times, all played on a Les Paul. The value of any guitar is held by the beholder, as I agree, also plus the rarety. I think one collector in Japan paid a $ million for a Les Paul of this period with a particularly fine and outstanding Flame Top (correct me if I am wrong). I do love your videos, you put a lot of work into them, it is good to hear a balanced view as well, thank you. My question is why doesn't it have the 'Les Paul Signature' on the head-stock? I have a picture of a 1954 Gold-Top with the Les Paul signature on it. Buying 2nd hand you would expect to see it? David, England.
@paulrockatansky77
@paulrockatansky77 Жыл бұрын
About a decade ago, Fender did a reissue of Gary's historic red Strat. It too was super expensive. But before Gary passed, Gibson made a regular signature Les Paul for him. Not a limited edition, just a no-frills, no-nonsense rock & roll machine for everyday musician, for around $2k, or maybe even less. Gary even used it onstage. Quite a decent guitar, if the reviews were to be believed. I guess those days are forever gone.
@pastorofmuppets1968
@pastorofmuppets1968 Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone pay more then even $2800.00 for any guitar? I mean, it's not even vintage. Its aged. Give me a break!
@wadeguidry6675
@wadeguidry6675 Жыл бұрын
This costs exactly 10x what I would pay for any nice guitar.
@gustavvader2207
@gustavvader2207 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. It’s not trying to compete in tone with anything. Gibson makes $1300 guitars that can sound as good as this. Let’s be honest, pickups are pickups. Once you plug into an amplifier, distortion, pedals. The pickups are meaningless. They make about a 1% difference at most. It’s all about the speakers you listen though and how the amp is setup. These guitars are about recreating famous guitars. A lot of work goes into them, they limit production because of this and the fact that they keep the collector market thriving. Pick any standard off the rack and you can find the tones. But the look and feel? No.
@DweedleDeeDweedleDoo
@DweedleDeeDweedleDoo Жыл бұрын
@@gustavvader2207 I disagree with the sentiment that pickups don't matter. Do they matter less the more effects you pile on? Sure. Can the average person hear differences in the mix? Maybe a handful. Can players associate the 'heat' or resistance of pickups or the winding style of the pickups to a certain playing style? Absolutely, and that matters more than anything else... Not to mention, single coil vs p90 vs mini hum vs gold-foil vs jazzmasters vs PAFs vs Modern actives and so on and so on... that's a massive difference to every tone you could possibly dial in. I definitely agree that artificial scarcity is a plague on collector communities and is disingenuous, but "the pickups are meaningless" just irked me and I had to say that, sorry lol
@clamus68
@clamus68 Жыл бұрын
Hence you aren't the target audience for this guitar. It's for collectors and obviously that ain't you.
@houseomiller
@houseomiller Жыл бұрын
​@gustavvader2207 No. Pickups are everything. The differences between identically wound Alnico 5, Alnico 2, and Ceramic magnet humbuckers are profound. P90s are different from all three, and actives like EMGs are different from all. The two biggest determining factors for any electric guitar are the pickups, and the amplifier. Body tone woods are a distant third, and fretboard differences are negligible (in sound, that is. I'll be the first to admit to vast differences in feel and appearance). Great pickups in an otherwise cheap (but still playable) guitar will sound a hundred times better than cheap pickups in a great guitar. Always.
@martyshwaartz971
@martyshwaartz971 Жыл бұрын
@@houseomiller Incorrect. Speaker and EQ stack are the two most important things to an unrecorded electric guitar sound. Pickup height and pickup POSITION make a much bigger difference than winding and magnets. Profound”? “100x better”? No, grow up.
@larrypower8659
@larrypower8659 Жыл бұрын
If you have a Gibson with humbuckers that you really like to play, re-wiring it for the “Peter Green” sound is a relatively simple mod. The big thing with his Les Paul was the middle position toggle sound-i.e. both pickups together. His neck pickup had been reversed, which happened by mistake during a repair. The resulting sound was unique and became a signature sound of that guitar. I had my ES 345 rewired to get that sound. The neck pickup has a push-pull volume pot. When it’s out, that pickup is out of phase when combined (in the middle toggle position) with the bridge pickup. When pushed in, the middle position puts it back into the typical, two humbucker Gibson wiring and sound. I can’t tell you the how-to of it because I’m dumb like that. What I can tell you is, that it makes the Peter Green quack a reality. If it’s that middle sound you desire, rewiring is a hell of a lot cheaper than the money grab of $20-50K. But, that’s just me …
@danieljaymeshansel5086
@danieljaymeshansel5086 Жыл бұрын
It’s not as easy as flipping the pickup around, it’s flipping the magnets inside around
@larrypower8659
@larrypower8659 Жыл бұрын
@@danieljaymeshansel5086 Yes, I know that. But lots of viewers and readsers do not. It was easier to describe it as I did.
@Trent_Sutphin
@Trent_Sutphin Жыл бұрын
I flipped the magnet in my bridge humbucker, got the same out of phase effect in the middle, really nice tone with the right volume setting
@danrunnoft6642
@danrunnoft6642 Жыл бұрын
I have an old Silvertone with a beautiful Brazilian rosewood fretboard. I'd be willing to sell it for $20k.
@vladimirpoutine7522
@vladimirpoutine7522 Жыл бұрын
I believe the Standard USA come with the same pickups also.
@Forest_Fifer
@Forest_Fifer Жыл бұрын
Well, it has to be said, I wasn't expecting Thin Lizzy to be the first thing on the playing demo, given that Moore wasn't a member when Jailbreak was written...
@ericbgordon1575
@ericbgordon1575 Жыл бұрын
How come every single episode featuring a signature edition only serves to rack up more reasons for me to avoid them?
@john-kl3ux
@john-kl3ux Жыл бұрын
There's something about replicating aging and artificial aging in general that just doesn't sit right with me
@danpritchett5617
@danpritchett5617 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@rcyalater...2305
@rcyalater...2305 Жыл бұрын
I concur
@dw7704
@dw7704 Жыл бұрын
If someone is into, hey cool. But to me it feels like, “Hey, beat up this guitar, and I will pay you for it”
@MDG509_
@MDG509_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I kinda feel like you should let your own guitar age. I’m not sure you should be spending 20k on a guitar if you haven’t been playing long enough for your more sensibly priced guitar to age.
@C0urne
@C0urne Жыл бұрын
While I agree, I don't blame Gibson for making a profit on relic jobs.
@sgmarshall3
@sgmarshall3 Жыл бұрын
I have the $700 made in Vietnam "Vintage PG100" and that's probably the best that I can do. It's not bad. You can borrow it for a review if you want.
@timaves1504
@timaves1504 Жыл бұрын
Great idea. When the Gibson USA version lands, Austin should DEFINITELY do a shootout between this one, the USA and the Vintage. I gigged one of those for a few years. Nice guitar - very light though. Chambered, I’m pretty certain with a thin maple cap that split on mine near the control knobs, unfortunately. Paid£150 for it used. And still got more for it than l paid.
@donge9589
@donge9589 Жыл бұрын
I loved my Vintage lemon drop, for what it was, a great beater guitar with surprisingly good tones out the box. I wrecked it by putting slash Seymour's in it, don't get me wrong it was awesome but I wished if stuck them on another guitar and kept it stock. It had a great resonance to it, all you really need to do is upgrade the pots and switches and you have a fantastic gigging guitar. The Wilkinson buckers were quite nice.
@saltpeter7429
@saltpeter7429 Жыл бұрын
VINTAGE make excellent affordable guitars. I had a LP deluxe. What a beast! I love heavy guitars. I have not come across a VINTAGE that did not impress me. For the price point? Beats everyone else, and they are awesome mod platforms. New locking tuners, New pickups and away we go.
@robnamowicz8073
@robnamowicz8073 Жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to meet Peter Green in a dressing room back many years ago, he was gifted in several ways. He was also a nice generous man, we exchanged guitars, he played my Strat and I played his Les Paul. It played like butter. Now all you boys out there who relish this guitar, go out and buy one you like, play a bunch, the age it yourself. Find a great luthier who can make yours play like butter and go rock your ass off.
@jimmyjames2022
@jimmyjames2022 Жыл бұрын
CS Greenie looks and sounds cool. But black paint on the tailpiece instead of chemical aging, can it be true? For $20,000, and keeping the whole point of "Greeny" authenticity, this seems like a really dumb move simply to limit cost and would make me return mine too. But then I'm skeptical of these wholesale tribute projects' value in the first place. You can only inflate the market so much. (EG see SVB for what happens eventually to hot air valuations.)
@tomfinn8076
@tomfinn8076 Жыл бұрын
Wood is not expensive. Don't let anyone tell you a guitar is expensive because of the wood. I know Brazilian rosewood is rare, but if you're buying a 20k recreation a Brazilian rosewood fretboard is only being held back because they're trying to justify the 50k guitar.
@cromBumny
@cromBumny Жыл бұрын
If a replica Ferrari 250 GTO costs 20 Million, is it odd that an exact replica costs 200k? Why would it be different for a 1-2million dollar guitar to have a replica that was more than 1k?
@tomfinn8076
@tomfinn8076 Жыл бұрын
what you're paying for is the prestige and the labor. A Brazilian rosewood board would only cost them a few extra bucks to source. My complaint is that for 20k, they could have put on a correct fretboard. Especially considering they've offered it on less expensive models.
@perekman3570
@perekman3570 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the $2000 Epiphone version next, then.
@Gordanovich02
@Gordanovich02 Жыл бұрын
Yeah... I was pumped when Cesar Gueikian hinted there would be an Epi version but if they're asking $1300 for the korina Explorer and V then a Greeny will be $1500 minimum. A regular Epi 1959 with a set of Bare Knuckle PG Blues pickups (other repro sets are available) has to be 90% of the way there.
@danpritchett5617
@danpritchett5617 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@Masterfighterx
@Masterfighterx Жыл бұрын
​@@Gordanovich02 the regular epi '59 is $400 less, has same electronics and comes with a case, but Gibson will be Gibson and milk it. Korina isn't as special, rare or expensive as Gibson likes to portray it to be, they just like milking with it.
@arguewithatree4921
@arguewithatree4921 Жыл бұрын
This is the new problem with Gibson, no player wants or can afford these guitars.. Gibson is just grabbing cash from collectors.. No offense Trogly, but these are worthless to the real-world guitar players.
@strawsparky33
@strawsparky33 Жыл бұрын
Tell me why the epiphone Korina V costs $1300 then? Because of build materials and finish quality. When you buy a Murphy lab aged guitar, you're paying for the hours and hours of attention and experience it takes to make the guitar feel like its actually 64 years old. Youre paying a premium for period correct woods and finishing and wood joinery techniques. You're paying for the time they spent carefully recreating the pickups to the exact spec of the original, sourcing period correct parts for wiring harnesses. It all adds up. And yeah, players might not have the money to buy one. Sucks to suck huh?
@jameshughes6049
@jameshughes6049 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I feel the same. I'm also not a fan of fake aging. That should come naturally over time. This sounds like any other Gibson Les Paul to be honest.
@cryptoesquire3168
@cryptoesquire3168 Жыл бұрын
Same w/ fine art, most people can’t afford, but still a market for it.
@wrenchhead6840
@wrenchhead6840 Жыл бұрын
I understand all sides here…. But guitars like that only apply to .00001% of guitar players… Its definitely a cash grab
@TayTayKemp
@TayTayKemp Жыл бұрын
@@strawsparky33 it sucks not to have 20K to spend on a glorified wall piece?? Lol you clearly don’t play guitar for fun
@leviathan_is_me
@leviathan_is_me Жыл бұрын
Question for the pros here...is there any way to tell the difference between neck and bridge pickups without a multimeter on pickups that have no adjustable poles? Just 2 rows of non adjustable slugs?
@bucknasty69
@bucknasty69 8 ай бұрын
Without knowing the pickup’s relative output, you’d just have to try each pickup in each position and see what sounds best to your ear. I’d recommend getting a multimeter; they’re not expensive, and it will save you a bunch of time swapping pickups around.
@travisbeckner6849
@travisbeckner6849 Жыл бұрын
Just for the 3 reissues Gibson put out for Kirk Hammett is $85,000. Insane
@Jeffero28
@Jeffero28 Жыл бұрын
And it's not even Kirks main guitar. I've always associated him with ESP. but maybe that's the point, not even the guy who's name is on it plays it. It's a collectors guitar for people with cash to burn
@rb343
@rb343 Жыл бұрын
Kirk can afford it. Let's be real, the economy is in the tank right now as far as disposable income. Gibson isn't stupid.They know a lot of people can't afford their guitars right now. This is why I believe they've put so much extra work into the inspired by gibson epiphones. If they can't sell a gibson at this time, they'd rather sell an epiphone instead of losing the sale completely to another company.
@WaurufEx
@WaurufEx Жыл бұрын
@@rb343 But still Gibson doesn't go all out with Epiphone. They are still using the Kalamazoo headstock that while nice, it's not the open-book headstock used in the Gibson models. That's why brands like Tokai and Edwards are still around, providing something the big G still don't want to do
@brandonthompson8413
@brandonthompson8413 Жыл бұрын
i kind of wish they wouldn't call it Kirk Hammett's model and just call it Greeny since there are so many amazing artist associated with that guitar.
@DoubleDguitar
@DoubleDguitar Жыл бұрын
Well then, at that price I should probably only get two.
@russdesaulniers3112
@russdesaulniers3112 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the review of the next Greedy.
@johnnyxmusic
@johnnyxmusic Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for the custom shop version of the Shroud of Turin. Because I couldn’t afford the signed, limited edition copy, with the special trip to the Holy Land. The tomb candy sucks, too.
@timaves1504
@timaves1504 Жыл бұрын
That guitar sounds fantastic, Austin! I would very happy to have one of those if l could afford it. Sadly, l can’t. I’d love to get my hands on one of the USA ones. Interesting, though, to remember that Gary Moore didn’t play on any of the Lizzy songs you played in the demo… that was Scott Gotham and Brian Robertson, both of whom always favoured 70s Les Paul Deluxes with mini humbuckers.:)
@world_of_max.g
@world_of_max.g Жыл бұрын
Though Scott's main / most favoured Les Paul was a '58 burst.
@jasonwaltrowski2315
@jasonwaltrowski2315 Жыл бұрын
How are you getting the correct headstock angle when the entire guitar isn't level, or did I miss that or something?
@Trog
@Trog Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t need to be. The headstock pitch will remain the same regardless of how the guitar sits. The neck angle requires more precision
@Gordanovich02
@Gordanovich02 Жыл бұрын
Zero the tilt-o-meter while it's on the fretboard then you get a relative measurement for the headstock...
@DJK5219
@DJK5219 10 ай бұрын
So I am one of these lawyers who bought this guitar. The first one had cracks in the lacquer (not from the aging, but from obvious lacquer issues), the second I got in exchange from my dealer had no mojo (for me) and the third (I was lucky to be able to exchange it a second time!) is absolutely gorgeous. It's a keeper. Would I do it again? Not sure. Why did I buy it? I wanted a gibson LP for my 40th birthday, and then this came along. I had to do buy it. Not sure if it was a good financial investment since these are appearing from time to time at other dealers, but it is definitely a very rare guitar with a story attached to it. Also: who can say that they owned three of those? Call me stupid, but overall I am happy. Thanks for the great and detailed review of this instrument!
@leahcaudill6559
@leahcaudill6559 Жыл бұрын
Are these, just the 50;000k seconds from the custom shop?😊
@clarkbabin9799
@clarkbabin9799 Жыл бұрын
One thing I've been wondering about a new reliced guitar is do they put all the protective plastics over the pickups and pick guards. As far as the Casino I finally got earlier this year it wasn't aged. It's the natural finish so I had to wait longer for it. But the protective plastics I haven't removed but the one over the pick guard is already rolling up from where the raised E branding on the pick guard is. I'm sure it won't be long. My LP traditional pro III I left all of it on till it started bubbling up and looking like hell. Didn't affect how it plays so I didn't care to remove them one way or the other. I just looked up the price of a thin line Rosewood Telecaster non signature and it was around $5k. One day I hope to aquire one but I was also wishing theyd do one in a baritone model. Would kill to birds one stone for me. Guess I'll have to do a Squire Telecaster baritone for now.
@sgmarshall3
@sgmarshall3 Жыл бұрын
Most of my guitars still have the pickguard plastic on them, and several still have the hang tags. I know most will probably move on when I crave something new...
@karlhoffmann8915
@karlhoffmann8915 Жыл бұрын
Just watched the $3199.00 Greenie review that you did, and I was so underwhelmed. I appreciate that you kept the amp at the same settings for the reviews. Gotta say, unless I won the lottery, a 20k guitar will never happen, but it does sound pretty great.
@SHENDOH
@SHENDOH Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't spend that kinda money on any of them. Lottery or not
@maxmonaco
@maxmonaco 11 ай бұрын
@@SHENDOHI think that any Collectors Choice Les Paul would be even better even for a less money. About 8-15K$ and there would be also a charismatic looking and sophisticated sound.
@bluesrockguitaristmikesall2708
@bluesrockguitaristmikesall2708 Жыл бұрын
$20,000,thats about $1,000 per scratch. For that amount of money,I'm thinkin' ten minutes at Burger King with Kirk Hammett.
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын
Reminds of that book "The Emporer Wears No Clothes"
@rexrathtar3893
@rexrathtar3893 Жыл бұрын
The authoritative history of the cannabis plant? 😹
@aprilkurtz1589
@aprilkurtz1589 Жыл бұрын
That headstock 'break' is nearly identical to the way my SG broke when a kid threw it out a 2nd floor window.
@rodrossi9749
@rodrossi9749 Жыл бұрын
Should have sent the kid right behind it.
@aprilkurtz1589
@aprilkurtz1589 Жыл бұрын
@@rodrossi9749 The story is that the kid got the guitar and a small amp as a b-day gift. The kid was upstairs playing the guitar very loudly, his dad told him to turn it down. Kid got angry and threw the guitar out the window. I don't know what happened to the kid, ha ha!
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 Жыл бұрын
@@aprilkurtz1589 Last he was heard from !
@aprilkurtz1589
@aprilkurtz1589 Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmhardwick4258 Undoubtedly! He was grounded for all eternity!
@rodrossi9749
@rodrossi9749 Жыл бұрын
@@aprilkurtz1589 hahaha....to funny 🤪
@orbitaljellyfish808
@orbitaljellyfish808 Жыл бұрын
I’m also looking forward to the standard’s review 👏👏
@scottjua
@scottjua Жыл бұрын
Weird screw up by Gibson... They didn't solder the pickup covers on.
@donthewatcher
@donthewatcher Жыл бұрын
so I put some Greenybuckers in my Epi Lazarus ( beautiful mini tiger flame veener top), and the pickups are incredible sounding, i will change out the mallory caps for some bumble bee's and mis matched nobs & grovers and change it into a Lazarus greeny . $20,000 or $50,000 is too much 4 me , but the $1500 epi greeny is reasonable , but my Lazarus greeny feels so good, and it plays so well , and i will roll with that.
@danpritchett5617
@danpritchett5617 Жыл бұрын
My next purchase will be a new beat up 1957 Chevrolet coupe with 100,000 miles. All rusty. Trashed out interior. You know. And I'm planning to pay ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. That'll make me feel really good.
@Nothing-gv8mv
@Nothing-gv8mv Жыл бұрын
I don't know what's more interesting today the comments or the demo😂
@hippiebiker3399
@hippiebiker3399 Жыл бұрын
I could take that $20,000 and buy a 1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am to take all my gear, including my already paid for ‘88 Gibson Les Paul Silverburst and ‘84 Ibanez DT555 Destroyer, to my next gig and still have my front seat available for the wife…. If I collect something it’s gonna be something I can either drive or play. I love Gary Moore and Peter Green…. but that much money for a replica…. I’ll buy the car, thank you!
@Commtech72
@Commtech72 Жыл бұрын
Interesting because I sold my 1972 Chevelle SS so I could buy this Greeny and the rest for a house remodel project. I however, still have my 1970 Charger. 😉
@TractorMonkeywithJL
@TractorMonkeywithJL Жыл бұрын
The more something is beat up, the more is costs. What a concept!
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
When is the smashed Pete Townsend SG case full of pieces for 50g coming out?
@pepethebull1
@pepethebull1 Жыл бұрын
Are you doing the 3k one to ?
@vernonhoover1387
@vernonhoover1387 Жыл бұрын
Probably the Epiphone version
@ArchieOnEarth
@ArchieOnEarth Жыл бұрын
When you look at faux-distressed finish on furniture, you start to recognize patterns in the dings and dents, like they only have a handful of templates they hammer in. They’re recognizable like constellations. I feel like I see similar repeated patterns in some of these “relic” guitars.
@danriley5848
@danriley5848 Жыл бұрын
20,000 for a guitar is absolutely ridiculous and I can't believe that people pay for someone else's wear and tear as I prefer making my own.
@TM-ev2tc
@TM-ev2tc Жыл бұрын
You need to check out Steven Seagal's Guitar collection sometime, and maybe even check out Albert King's Guitar (Lucy).
@TM-ev2tc
@TM-ev2tc Жыл бұрын
Gibson needs to come out with a 9-11 Memorial guitar. Maybe even do a collaboration with the 9-11 Memorial Museum in New York. If they already have one you should try to do a review of one. You should check out the Gibson Les Paul 9-11 Tribute Guitars. I think there are three of them. I think they were named "Never Forget " "Always Honor" and "Forever Free "
@steveparish9210
@steveparish9210 Жыл бұрын
Please don't mention Albert King and Steven segal in the same sentence
@TM-ev2tc
@TM-ev2tc Жыл бұрын
​@@steveparish9210 sounds like a story I would like to hear
@damienhick1647
@damienhick1647 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Been following these. Would be interested in your analysis and comparison of these and the new LP standard Greeny - the $3199 version. I wish they would make a middle road version for around 6-8k. I’d be in for that. After all who can realistically afford even a 20k version. Surely there is a half way point.
@aramispotter6175
@aramispotter6175 Жыл бұрын
I myself would not buy an "aged" or "relict" guitar. I do like looking at them, seeing the player's story written all over it. You can imagine all the time the guitarist put into playing it. But that is their story, not mine. I don't buy used guitars, especially Gibson's because it's so easy to get disappointed. I buy new and put my own scratches and dings (at the minimum as possible of course). I know that vintage guitars are the most desired, but I think the quality of new guitars today is phenomenal, we are making our own future vintage. And the price point is better too.
@Dommymarano
@Dommymarano 10 ай бұрын
Core PRS, Murphy Lab Les Paul and a Soldano half stack 100 w! Still have 5k left over!!
@nbenning25
@nbenning25 Жыл бұрын
I’d rather see an affordable Epiphone Jimmy Page ‘59 relic than a Epi “Greeny”
@OGStinkywizzleteats
@OGStinkywizzleteats Жыл бұрын
Funny that Prs can use a brw board on a 5k guitar. Yet Gibson can't on a 20k? Seems a little ridiculous.
@simonpark843
@simonpark843 Жыл бұрын
I'm intrigued by these reviews, but the idea that anyone would spend this kind of money on a guitar - any guitar - is shocking to me.
@suleymancetinkaya2755
@suleymancetinkaya2755 Жыл бұрын
Chibson can make the same for 1k, save the 19k for dinner.
@BrentAdams
@BrentAdams Жыл бұрын
I'd much rather have a "New Version" (No aging ..... ) of "Greeny". Brazilian Rosewood doesn't matter to me, nor any of the "relic-ing". I am one of "those folks" that want my "New Guitar.... to Look New!
@jonwilson2333
@jonwilson2333 Жыл бұрын
Just seen two go up for sale in the UK and deducting the serial numbers gives a number of 575. I'm not an expert on Gibson serial numbering, but could this indicate there are at least this number of 20K versions out there? If so, how does this affect future value (if bought for investment) when compared to Gibson limited runs of say 50 - 100?
@Arthagnou
@Arthagnou Жыл бұрын
did they have plastic inlays or mother of pearl...mine looks like its MoP
@dongonzulman6478
@dongonzulman6478 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the X-Ray machine is on hold I would never pay 20k for a guitar unless i was planning on selling it. Excellent review!
@rb343
@rb343 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Someone please explain what I'm supposed to hear different out of a $50,000 guitar.
@peejay6930
@peejay6930 Жыл бұрын
He just said the $20k and the $50k models sound very similar
@pastorofmuppets1968
@pastorofmuppets1968 Жыл бұрын
@@peejay6930 probably sounds similar to my $2800.00 60's standard too. Just dumb.
@rb343
@rb343 Жыл бұрын
@Bert Piotrowski I'm with you there, if I could bu a $50K guitar and turn it for $100K, I'm in. Other than that, I think Gibson has a pretty high opinion of themselves. But they in conjunction with the new inspired by gibson epiphones is an awesome deal for a player. I don't think epiphones have ever been better. At least 3 minimum I can think of, the firebird the sg les paul, and the 59 les paul!
@ruckussful
@ruckussful Жыл бұрын
does it widdly? does it wah?
@PopeyeFPV
@PopeyeFPV Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of fake patina because every time you look down at it, you know it's not real. I call this : Murphy scabbed. A very expensive scab. lol
@gustavvader2207
@gustavvader2207 Жыл бұрын
I understand that, but it’s either a replica or only one person on the planet will ever own that look at a time. So, I’m glad they do them.
@PopeyeFPV
@PopeyeFPV Жыл бұрын
@@gustavvader2207 I hear you. But that would have been a lovely R9 VOS.... :(
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын
In my book they are as fake as a Chibson!
@PopeyeFPV
@PopeyeFPV Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewAHayes haha...I just don't get the desire. It's like wow, I just paid $20k for a fake and I'm supposed to be happy?? To each their own, but I just can't. Even some VOS is now pushing the limits for me.
@gustavvader2207
@gustavvader2207 Жыл бұрын
@@PopeyeFPV incredibly true.
@duanewelsh5611
@duanewelsh5611 Жыл бұрын
Yep got screwed the same er the same screws as the $50k version!
@PonziZombieKiller
@PonziZombieKiller Жыл бұрын
I play my $80 pawn shop Epiphone II Special and I can still pretend I am the Green God.
@mrmetal1276
@mrmetal1276 Жыл бұрын
Will you be testing the standard greeny soon? $3200 what does that get you?
@jasongormley5174
@jasongormley5174 Жыл бұрын
Look forward to the 3K review, interested to hear about the neck feel and pickup sound, not so into relics - prefer brand new 🙏
@stevejarred6484
@stevejarred6484 Жыл бұрын
Is there going to be an Epiphone version?
@Trog
@Trog Жыл бұрын
Nothing official yet, but wouldn’t surprise me if we see one in a year!
@guitarrilho502
@guitarrilho502 Жыл бұрын
What about the new flying v? Will you compare it to the old rendition?
@mikestroud9969
@mikestroud9969 Жыл бұрын
Thin Lizzy. Jailbreak. Nice 👍🙂. Sounds good
@Ken-yg4um
@Ken-yg4um Жыл бұрын
Purchased the epiphone Lazarus LP and made my own Greenie 😅
@Guitarchie
@Guitarchie Жыл бұрын
This guitar has always looked up to me I seen a collectors choice edition one signed by Gary Moore himself in a guitar shop that isn't there anymore but I'd always see it and I'd be like that a cool guitar but this was before I was good at guitar when I was about 9/12 now I'm 14 and these are being made, really want one but I can't afford it
@vernonhoover1387
@vernonhoover1387 Жыл бұрын
Nice! You got a greeny!killer neck position.i really dig this one!!!
@JokersWild70
@JokersWild70 Жыл бұрын
I have a gorgeous 2021 Gibson LP Lemonburst Standard that I'm going to throw a set of these pickups in when they become available and call it good
@paulcatarino2209
@paulcatarino2209 Жыл бұрын
Since these are all just done in the spirit of the original...but will never be. Why wouldn't I just just buy a "1959 Les Paul Standard Lemon Burst Ultra Heavy Aged" and save $9,300, change two knobs and pickups.
@johnf.r6658
@johnf.r6658 Жыл бұрын
There's any other channel like this but fender oriented?
@MoF247
@MoF247 Жыл бұрын
Landon Bailey makes pretty good guitar vids centered mostly around Fender guitars. Although he doesn't cover any and all Fender news like Trogly does with Gibson.
@johnf.r6658
@johnf.r6658 Жыл бұрын
@@MoF247 yeah I follow him, pretty cool guy. But I watched to many videos of trogly I almost feel like I know more about Gibson than any other brand, and I don't even plan to buy one! I'm more of a fender guy
@michaelnugent9758
@michaelnugent9758 Жыл бұрын
That tone at 15:30 🔥🤌🏻
@stewarttomkinson3356
@stewarttomkinson3356 Жыл бұрын
I got some Seymour Duncan green magic pick ups individually. They sound great but together I actually flipped over the neck pick up and it didn’t make a big difference still out of maze not good on my ibanez copy
@oldfriend327
@oldfriend327 Жыл бұрын
Just imho, Kirk Hammett should have signed the back of headstocks with those permanent markers, just like Slash did on so many of his and especially for the price, the history of the guitar, and really the history of Metallica. Kirk has earned his place as one of the greatest guitarists of any heavy metal band and with what a customer is expected to pay, his personal autograph or at least his initials should be on the back of those headstocks.
@2112pjm
@2112pjm Жыл бұрын
Please don’t take all the strings off at once 🙏
@jameshughes6049
@jameshughes6049 Жыл бұрын
Hey everybody!!
@PedalPawn
@PedalPawn Жыл бұрын
Very cool video 🍋🤗
@johnashton5907
@johnashton5907 Жыл бұрын
WHAT A LAUGH, THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE!
@barry3045
@barry3045 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to have one. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤘🏼
@mvenuti1980
@mvenuti1980 Жыл бұрын
I just don’t get why PRS can add Braz boards for $500 and Gibson adds $30k. I’ve had one of those PRS, it’s not worth even a $500 up charge.
@vincentrandles8105
@vincentrandles8105 Жыл бұрын
But....I've already got a Les Paul. -Jimmy Page I do like the period correct pink interior in the case, I personally had one like that for a '76 Les Paul, that I'm certain WASN'T what it should've came with! Great show - on with it...
@ak47dragunov
@ak47dragunov Жыл бұрын
Those pickups sound fantastic. Lots of clarity even with a ton of distortion. The rest of the guitar does nothing for me sadly. Faking a headstock break is a bridge too far in the realm of absurdity
@maxmonaco
@maxmonaco 11 ай бұрын
That’s the reason why this guitar is still available…20k is crazy money for this piece
@dudley509
@dudley509 Жыл бұрын
To some people buying a guitar that cost 20k is like buying a new pair of shoes . I'm not one of thoughs . Buy the epiphone Greenie
@mikecarbone828
@mikecarbone828 Жыл бұрын
Salutations Austin! I think I would actually be more interested in a brand new Les Paul that has all of the functional electronics and hardware that represent what makes the original instrument sound and perform as it now does, but without the cosmetic alterations that makes it appear as a replica of the original guitar. I would not really be interested in the simulated damage and wear and tear, nor of the appearance that the machines had been replaced, instead, just the new ones. Essentially, what the original instrument would have been, had it been built in the Gibson factory with all the current modifications without the cumulative effects of all of the decades that have passed. Thank you for posting these videos! Please have an excellent and awesome day! ☀️✨🎸
@markvonwisco7369
@markvonwisco7369 Жыл бұрын
I really don't get the point of these types of guitars. I'm first and foremost a musician, and simply not interested in a guitar that I'm not going to gig.
@stratmagic6893
@stratmagic6893 Жыл бұрын
I am really rich. I have bought 6 of these to put in glass cases all around my mansion. Did I mention that I don't play guitar. It doesn't matter . Many of my rich friends who have bought these don't play either.
@pdbordelon
@pdbordelon Жыл бұрын
Im 55 years old, have been playing for 45 years, gig regularly with my band, and have a ton of gear. I make a good living (not from music) and can afford some nice guitars but Ive yet to break down and buy a custom shop Fender or Gibson. I'd like a Fender R11 Telecaster but again it's hard to justify $4-6k on one guitar but I might sell some gear to pay for it. Looking at things from that perspective, I'd never spend $20k on a guitar like the Greenie in this video, even if I was a millionaire.I wouldn't buy it on principle. Jeez! Pick up a USA Schecter Custom Shop PT for about $2500 and you will wonder why you ever bothered with Gibson and Fender.
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