"Come on simplex, let's go!" QOTY - Quote Of The Year Good god that one got me. lol
@helpthehurtlondon Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie. And please don’t get mad, but I love the grumbling about the fire alarm system 4:10 Its like, tell us how you really feel lol
@Casonplayz Жыл бұрын
22:11 your dog is going wait is that a squirrel 🐿 nope it’s a fire alarm nope it’s a bird 🦅 nope it’s a…
@thunderbolttdmplayz6750Ай бұрын
Goofball voltage
@heckeroffical38622 жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome content!
@IanGSully2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it could be anything climate related, and I would also recommend maybe trying a firmware upgrade on the system too, maybe it won't go catty wonkus as much, might or might not help but you never know.
@firepro-squad77782 жыл бұрын
Interesting video!
@dabitzz2 жыл бұрын
I think its a humidity or dew issue. Since it always happens at night, there could be dew on the detector, causing it to malfunction.
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
possibly who knows
@ryang35262 жыл бұрын
It is the temp I read through the manual for it and the operating range is 20° - 60°. The 10° is a bit cold. I'm surprised those detectors don't have freeze supervisory capabilities like some do. I'd suggest raising the heat lamp up to 20° so it is within spec
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure 20 can’t be right
@ryang35262 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I read it wrong it is -20°-60°. One thing to try is switch the detector in the bathroom to see if the problem moves. Or put the smoke on the heats base and the heat on the smokes base. Make sure the base isn't doing something. It is possible that something in the detector is faulty and is causing it to freak out.
@FirealarmsNTrains6 ай бұрын
Love the content and videos Nic! Can you do a video showing how to do a power cycle a firelite panel? Happy holidays and I look forward to more awesome content.
@nics-systems-electric6 ай бұрын
Pull the batteries and then kill 120v power and then re-energize by 120 V first and then plug-in batteries
@mikeross8802 жыл бұрын
My thoughts are is that the problem could very well be humidity related. Granted, my experience is more with smoke detectors as I know they very sensitive to rises in humility above 95% but since this is a heat detector (which I don't know a whole lot about) in theory it should not be affected by moisture but more temp like you say. However growing up here on the coast and having studied weather lots I do know that it is not unusual in Summer or early fall for relative overnight humidity levels to range anywhere from 70 to 100 percent (particularly if there's fog in the straits) What could be happening is condensation could be building in the detector overnight due to the higher humidity levels causing it to malfunction. The only other possibility is that the detector itself could be going bad. (but the again why is it happening only at night?) I would definitely say most likely being a heat detector that it's a low temp issue but if it turns out to be humidity; you could try also installing a humidistat that would turn on the light when necessary which would dry out the air and keep the moisture under control without raising the temp too unnecessarily high. Again don't quote me on this as my experience is more with smokes than heats. Lastly you could also experiment with another detector and see if the problem recurs. Good luck .
@Casonplayz Жыл бұрын
So that’s why when you open the door 🚪 to the bathroom after a shower at a hotel the smoke detector usually goes off everytime that happens I wonder if it’s connected to a panel or what is says on that panel when the steam reaches the detector
@Smokedetor28 күн бұрын
I like your dog❤
@adventuresuadofficial3 ай бұрын
"Didn't hit it hard enough" got me cracking up
@josh_spc2020 Жыл бұрын
Cool vid
@jeffgrant6914 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting even that has got me stumped
@user-de9bg8kp3bКүн бұрын
Hi! Your videos are very instructive, thanks for sharing your experiences with us. I have a question about FSP-951 device, the problem is bought one of this and when I installed the NFS-640 shows lo val trouble, do you know what that mean?
@brianmohammed17902 жыл бұрын
cool video and have more video to come you know your stuff
@caposeyАй бұрын
So now I know where you got your profile picture from.. The Honeywell Notifier logo.
@lukedavis4362 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go off on the basis that the detector is effectively acting like my Emac does during the winter it will turn on but the screen will only light up once its gotten warm enough... Perhaps you need to leave the Gen rooms heat lamp on for longer intervals?
@itzParty2 жыл бұрын
When you say you can’t use notifier and fire lite detectors in a life safety system install. I have seen installs have mixed brands with pull stations, horn strobes, and smoke detectors. Sadly this is the normal from me where I live. 😂
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean can you do it yes is it legal no
@itzParty2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric This is just a suggestion and correct me if I’m wrong. But can you set a minimum temperature for the detector on the panel?
@s.ep302 жыл бұрын
I'm 99% sure its due to cold temperature, as soon as you opened the door to the generator building the trouble went away. Sience the warmer air got into the generator building it heated up the detector to where it could go into normal operating temperature. Just try keeping the temperature higher in the building and I assume it should go away. I looked it up and it claims the normal operating conditions are (0°C to 50°C) which kinda rules out all of this. A second problem might be just tampering with the detectors insides in general, without knowing it you mightve broken something. Pull one of the detectors off of your noti system and put it on the Fire-Lite SLC and see what happens.
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
I know it doesn’t make sense as the listed temperature is 0 to 50 C but it seems to be the issue
@heckeroffical38622 жыл бұрын
It’s the temperature stuff
@matthewantonucci67512 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick I Think You Should Get A Napco Gemini Commercial Burglar/FireAlarm System!
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
But I already have a security system
@sergeantbrownlegg4629 Жыл бұрын
It's either a sensor issue mate, I got the same thing I installed myself, I have exact model same one, its a sensor issue usually when you bend the themostat back it actually kincks something in the diagram too the point a sensor goes bad
@D2Dcrazychihuahua57effects310 ай бұрын
What was the trouble that your control panel was beeping about?
@glady94992 жыл бұрын
Could be that the detector it’s cold (maybe it likes to stay warm)
@CrimsonLeaves925 күн бұрын
What cameras are those?
@mightydave13452 жыл бұрын
Change the heat head. We'd never leave a faulty head on a site. When looking into faults, always best to change 1 thing at a time
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
It hasn’t caused any troubles in a couple months at this point since turning the heat up to above 10°C so I have left it for now if it acts up more I will switch it out to a new detector and see if it still acts up
@lightningking15522 жыл бұрын
I also have a feeling it’s the temperature playing around with the detector, once you opened the generator building, it started polling. That’s not what usually happens for invalid reply troubles.
@lightningking15522 жыл бұрын
Try monitoring the temperature while it’s in and out of trouble.
@lightningking15522 жыл бұрын
Also working temperature might be an issue as well.
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
@@lightningking1552 Problem is is I’m not out there at 2 AM to keep an eye on the temperature
@Denkan378 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric i am a person who is playing from 11:00PM to 9:00AN with temperature
@apctech111 ай бұрын
i love drying the sensor head under those junk stel pro heaters oure sparky in my area loves them i find them to be low out put junk
@nics-systems-electric10 ай бұрын
We install lots of them as they take up a lot less space and heat up a space quicker than baseboard heaters they are definitely not very efficient but they make good supplementary heat
@apctech110 ай бұрын
any fan forced heater will out do a convection baseboard heater for sure:)@@nics-systems-electric
@Exeulla Жыл бұрын
cool
@SDPP9922 жыл бұрын
Could be the notifier and firelite deal giving it intermittent invalid reply.. I've had that issue on mine
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t seem likely though as it’s only two days I had it at night and not when the temperature is turned up
@J19_vlogger742 жыл бұрын
DANG i have been so busy. finally i have time to binge KZbin
@Peter-gm1mc5 ай бұрын
Have you thought about adding the generator buidling to the access control system
@nics-systems-electric5 ай бұрын
No because it would have to be brought underground which somebody could cut into it in energize a strike so it would be less secure
@DanTDMJace10 күн бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric now that you did it do you regret it
@nics-systems-electric10 күн бұрын
@@DanTDMJace have never done that
@lightningking15522 жыл бұрын
If it was the detector you fixed, then maybe it could have been the issue. But then again, the thermostat can’t cause a invalid reply. Try switching out the detector with the heat in the bathroom, and see if it causes invalid replies again.
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
It’s been fine for a couple months since I made this video I think it was just getting too cold
@richthepontiacguys1412 Жыл бұрын
It's bad dector that's why i was marked as bad change out it From Rich Uniguard Security Systems intermittent problem
@GaryBeltz2 жыл бұрын
Simplex sent ghosts to haunt your system because they know you hate them
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Probably
@MRIDNETGUY20042 жыл бұрын
It want me 😂😂😂
@GaryBeltz2 жыл бұрын
@@MRIDNETGUY2004 ok “RocketmN” lol
@J19_vlogger742 жыл бұрын
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@D2Dcrazychihuahua57effects310 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric wow that was scary
@the_boywholived21102 жыл бұрын
it says in the bottom right of the detector fixed and rate of rise operating temps 5:16
@chadrowland52342 жыл бұрын
Have you tried installing a new heat detector? First, test to see if the trouble comes back. If it did, even with the higher temperature, it has to be a defective heat.
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
It’s fine once the temperature is turned up a bit and it’s kind of hard to say if it would with another detector as some nights the trouble comes up and sometimes it doesn’t so it would be difficult to say if it is the detector or not
@chadrowland52342 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric A heat detector having a problem in the cold is a new one on me. Go ahead and try a new heat detector. It may be entirely possible that when you opened the detector up, you might have disturbed the integrity of the watertight seal. Now, the watertight seal is probably defective or compromised, the moisture in the air condensed inside the detector and shorting out the detector and thereby causing your invalid reply. Then, the air heats up, the moisture evaporates again and the short goes away and thereby, your invalid reply goes away. This moisture would be in the detector head itself and not in the base...in the base and causing the detector to lose contact with the panel SLC. This could be what explains your "ghost trouble" situation with your fire alarm system. Try a new heat detector and see what happens. Heat detectors are not really meant to be taken apart as they normally don't need servicing, unlike a smoke detector. I have seen heat detectors from the 1970's and still in service because, they normally don't need service and so, aren't made to be taken apart. If a new heat detector doesn't remedy your "ghost trouble" problem, then I am at a loss.
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
@@chadrowland5234 possibly it didn’t seem watertight to begin with as the element protrudes through the plastic body that would keep water out so any moisture could just come in through that way hasn’t caused problems since leaving the heat turned up but that may be the problem
@chadrowland52342 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric There's your problem! Why not put the suspect heat detector in the bathroom and the heat detector that is there now in the generator room. If the problem starts showing up in the bathroom, then you know for sure that it is the detector head. If the problem goes away, then you know for sure that it was the detector head. If the problem persists in the generator room, then the problem is probably the moisture content in the air or just the application in general. But try switching the two heat detectors (bathroom and generator room) and see what happens.
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
@@chadrowland5234 Probably nothing will happen it’s been fine for the last two months
@Random_Emergency_Light2 жыл бұрын
Do you have AC in your shed?
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Just a portable unit
@justinramey1214 ай бұрын
Nic
@Casonplayz2 жыл бұрын
Fixed operating temp 135.f and 190.f 9:18
@Ronnocbot2 жыл бұрын
This is the activation temp.. not the operating temp.
@Casonplayz2 жыл бұрын
@@Ronnocbot oh oh I think I read it wrong on the back during the both times he shows the back
@Firealarmcollectorperson2 жыл бұрын
If it continues, maybe contact Fire-Lite?
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
It is a notifier detector probably just too cold
@Firealarmcollectorperson2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Yeah. Interesting that it seems to happen at only certain times.
@auggatronicRoblox_official2 жыл бұрын
if the heat detector still keeps starting a trouble repeatedly, you might want replace the head. if the issue continues, you might want to look into a mechanical heat detector
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
It’s been fine sense leaving the temperature over 10° but it doesn’t make sense as that is within the operating temperature
@BlinkOnWheels Жыл бұрын
I suggest having a mechanical detector as a back up
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@BlinkOnWheels Mechanical detector might be more reliable but there still shouldn’t be a problem in the beginning may just completely get rid of the heat detector spot if it ever gives problems again as there is already a smoke detector and the temperature monitor thermostats which would give a supervisory
@BlinkOnWheels Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I hope it doesn’t give you any more problems.
@richardplaisted61888 ай бұрын
I think you need a fire lite detector for light speed
@nics-systems-electric8 ай бұрын
You do to comply with the listing however other brands will work as detectors that can run notifier flashscan can run the similar but less capable protocol litespeed depends on the panel and what firmware it is on
@hersheyparkaddictionsoffical Жыл бұрын
why did you remove the generator?
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
I sold it it was putting out to high total harmonic distortion a.k.a. dirty power
@hersheyparkaddictionsoffical Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric oh Ok
@Casonplayz2 жыл бұрын
Hi I think it maybe temperature or dew or maybe something else
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Probably
@Casonplayz2 жыл бұрын
Probably most likely temperature
@Earth_Number_122 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna add a Annunciator
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
No it wouldn’t make any sense
@nickcliff Жыл бұрын
If it’s broke wack it with your hand 😂
@Braydenisdabest7 ай бұрын
Well uh the temperature was 50 or 40 Degrees or that cuz the heat dect was not warm so it became cold and that happened I think
@c.e.rgaming86882 жыл бұрын
Are you doing a video about your new storage room
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Eventually
@c.e.rgaming86882 жыл бұрын
Ok
@c.e.rgaming86882 жыл бұрын
Good gob on your videos
@EnderShadowborne2 жыл бұрын
Operating temp is in the manual, from -20C to 38C (-4F to 100F) What's stupid is it's labeled "Installation Temperature"... Notifier...
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
That’s the part that seems weird because operating temperature shouldn’t be a problem but it seems to be
@EnderShadowborne2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Seems Notifier will need to revise the manual for incorrect temperature ratings…
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
@@EnderShadowborne I would say it’s probably something with just this detector because there is no reason 10° should be too cool
@EnderShadowborne2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric If you suspect a manufacturing defect, if you have the original box for it, you could send it to Honeywell (or Notifier) and have it replaced, after all, you DID say you’d try a Fire Lite branded one, but try another Notifier one just to be sure, however I suspect a conflict in protocols as Notifier will natively support Notifier with zero flaw, but I can most likely picture some other arbitrary Honeywell addressable device on Fire Lite and it may work fine, I’ve not paid a lot of attention to your setup, but it’s pretty interesting to say the least Greetings from the US, where we PROBABLY don’t have those smoke/heat detectors, though the manual reading in F would suggest we do…
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
@@EnderShadowborne you guys definitely have them in the US there’s a few problems though number one is the detector wasn’t mine it came out of the school when it didn’t originally work during our verification and after taking it home and opening it the thermostat was bent under a piece of plastic which is why it didn’t get set off by the heat so I bent it back up so I bet that would void any warranty as I opened it I still don’t think that has anything to do with the issue though as I didn’t really change anything other than bend up the thermostat that was bent under in a place it shouldn’t be
@jjasso75 Жыл бұрын
😂 I can’t believe maybe a ghost went in the panel and
@J19_vlogger742 жыл бұрын
i think the only reason it has a min operating temp is because if it's too cold it might not detect heat fast enough 4:14 Sometimes calling things stupid can be therapeutic 4:50 i watched the vid. i dont think it's that ether 18:31 :) lol
@richthepontiacguys1412 Жыл бұрын
It's just a bad detector just change it new one will work by way put a firelite heat dector
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Hasn't caused any problems in a while so I'm gonna leave it for now I know notifier detectors aren't listed for compatibility with firelite but as long as it's running lite-speed and not clip they seem to run lite-speed protocol just fine
@richthepontiacguys1412 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric that's easy for you our there in active system in building it probably happen in middle night on holiday and I would have go fix it so I wouldn't trust it but had detectors do that to me before and go into trouble at worst times Ps I never tried notifier addressable on firelite panel there suppose talk a different Language ,(Data) interesting to no that
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@richthepontiacguys1412 totally agree if it happens again I will change it for sure but keeping the temperature at around 10°c or more it hasn't caused any problems
@joelevators96672 жыл бұрын
Where did the generator go?
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Solid it
@joelevators96672 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric what
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
@@joelevators9667 I sold the generator
@joelevators96672 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Oh! Is it because the lights were flickering?
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
@@joelevators9667 Yes too high of total harmonic distortion making dirty power
@justinramey1214 ай бұрын
I think you might have a hacker that's hacking your fire alarm system that's messing with you.
@nics-systems-electric4 ай бұрын
No that's not something that is possible
@justinramey1214 ай бұрын
Try to a restart on the system
@justinramey1214 ай бұрын
Alright keep in eye on it if that heat detector if it still giving you any trouble.
@wesleywfc9821 Жыл бұрын
Why does it say notifier by Honeywell even tho it’s a fire light panel
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
The panel says firelite by Honeywell?
@wesleywfc9821 Жыл бұрын
No the smoke detector says notifier by Honeywell
@YZFR166668 ай бұрын
How about its a notifier detector on a firelite panel , not listed. and its not simplex
@nics-systems-electric8 ай бұрын
Nope not listed under compatibility list but a notifier detector will work on a firelite system absolutely it's been done in buildings before. And yes it's not simplex that is quite obvious, that was a joke.
@YZFR166668 ай бұрын
Still watching your vid at the moment, but as long as wiring is good , inv rep always bad device
@nics-systems-electric8 ай бұрын
@@YZFR16666 been over a year no problem since
@YZFR166668 ай бұрын
Gotten away with noticing firelite devices being ok with notifier firewarden notifier panels, but never 100% with onyx type devices ie: 320,640, &3030 being okay with firewarden panels or firelite , would run into super random loop troubles
@nics-systems-electric8 ай бұрын
@@YZFR16666 haven't done any tests with firelite devices on notifier however it would probably run on firewarden series fine not sure about running on flashscan however it is a similar protocol to litespeed as far as capabilities obviously having a few more in many cases it seems more to do with firmware as updates will not run others devices
@SE-rj3sw2 жыл бұрын
i think its humiditiy problem
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Possibly who knows leaving the heat turned up a little more seems to have solved the issue
@N1tr0_fox2 жыл бұрын
oh no troble notifcations isnt good what happened lol
@Uhh.thankyou2 жыл бұрын
watch the video
@edengarrison59798 ай бұрын
Hey um my school has power failure so please help us
@nics-systems-electric8 ай бұрын
That's their problem
@edengarrison59798 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric nah bro my own school had a bad failure fr nics
@980AJ2 жыл бұрын
First
@robertsmithshobbyproductions2 жыл бұрын
Nobody Cares
@980AJ2 жыл бұрын
About you and also who asked for your opinion
@SE-rj3sw2 жыл бұрын
yeah that isnt good .
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Not ideal
@FireAlert2 жыл бұрын
Just sayin, Simplex would never do this. If you get the trouble again I would 100% do a firmware upgrade on the panel, those 365s might be newer than the firmware on the panel Edit: after watching the rest of the video, id say swap the Demo system head and that one and see if you get the problem on the 640, sounds like a dead head to me
@nics-systems-electric2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a temperature thing it’s been fine for the last two months since the temperatures been over 10°c
@FireAlert2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Yea that would make sense, If you still have board the PCBs and sensors, from before the swap you could try seeing what rev they are, and same with the sensor, they might have used a different sensor in one of them that has a different range, so when it gets a little colder, it would tell the board the same the thing the original sensor would if it was like -50000. Wait you just bent it, not swapped it, right? I cant remember, the resistance also could have gone up when that happened, You could try a temp gun and a hair dryer to see exactly what temp makes it go off. I would not be surprised if it pre maturely activates, or wont activate correctly now.
@AYDEN_OFROBLOX6 ай бұрын
simplex is in my school and it is better behaved
@nics-systems-electric6 ай бұрын
Simplex is fine if it maintained properly however they do have problems when it comes to network reliability
@AYDEN_OFROBLOX6 ай бұрын
my hole school district is coverd by simplex@@nics-systems-electric
@Honekawasuneo6462 ай бұрын
Bro I put in the nitrogen 💀
@Blue_spy1Ай бұрын
Solid nitrogen 💀
@Honekawasuneo6462 ай бұрын
Maybe no element
@Honekawasuneo6462 ай бұрын
You can’t put heat sensor in fridge
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Yes you can and I did to cool it down it was a freezer
@Honekawasuneo6462 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I already try, it broke 💀
@Honekawasuneo6462 ай бұрын
My dad said: gi buy again
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@@Honekawasuneo646 that doesn't make sense as the addressable units are rated down to -20°C they will still operate normal down to that temperature