Just wanted to say I currently work at an engineer firm that specializes in fire alarm system design. Engineers have no idea how things are going to be installed in the field. I feel like being able to understand that and having a good working relationship with the installing contractors makes everyone's job easier. Also, I have been watching your videos for awhile now and always find them informative and appreciate the knowledge you have for this field.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
You are 100% The job goes so much smoother if you work together and realize everyone makes mistakes and instead of holding it as a grudge address it and learn from it if possible
@BluepuptweetElevators3 ай бұрын
Off topic, but that architecture is awesome
@fortniteinminecraftt37943 ай бұрын
Yes
@HuaweiY-vo5pk3 ай бұрын
😊😊😊😊😊oNfbhhkhggjg
@spykillergames84023 ай бұрын
Man all those strobes turned any fire drill into a rave
@Some_Random_Teen3 ай бұрын
You should make a wall of strobes to show the intensity of a couple hundred unsynchronized strobes going off all at once
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
That would be quite crazy for sure
@Williams_elektronik3 ай бұрын
Yhea, for new year
@Neptunesalad123 ай бұрын
At max brightness setting or wha5
@mikeross8803 ай бұрын
Nice! Now not only will New Years 2025 be louder but will be brighter as well. Also check out the wonderful portrait of The Queen by the annunciator near the end.
@Max_And_His_Tech3 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing us how to do these things
@Skulldozer253 ай бұрын
Beautiful alarm with bells, it's sad to see all of them will get replaced by l series, But the l series is my favorite alarm as well.
@whelenvortexr42 ай бұрын
I'll miss those old est strobes, I miss it when fire alarms were square and had vertical strobes. These the the Wheelock MT 24lsms
@Harper_DobniYT3 ай бұрын
I love the upgrade videos! Can’t wait for part 2!
@Jesse_3023 ай бұрын
I’m excited for the test
@AlphaCelebrities87421 күн бұрын
*I wish I had the fire bell rather than the Honeywell Fire Alarm at my school.*
@johannesjacobus6892Ай бұрын
You guys finally got L series strobes,you only had smokes before
@LucasSmith-lw2vw2 ай бұрын
Good vid bro 👍
@IanGSully3 ай бұрын
At first when I heard about this replacement, I thought "Why is Nic's school district doing this school instead of Nic's old middle school?" But when you explained that they were building the new addition. Then it became a little more understanding, especially how the QS4 parts are discontinued. And no wonder because these things suck ass, that and they have been out for a while now. I mean, this one was a little better than the one at your middle school. Because the one at your middle school we all know likes to act drunk sometimes lol. But regardless this system is kinda interesting to learn about as well.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
The middle school actually has all of its parts there for the most part and they've been there well before they were here for the school they've actually been there longer than the previous two or three replacements that school is just waiting the longest for whatever reason
@IanGSully3 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Well yeah they just want people to suffer with the old "ShitStart" for a little while longer. When is that addition expected to be completed do you know?
@HenBasketFireAlarms3 ай бұрын
@@IanGSullyI thought the term was QuickShart
@IanGSully3 ай бұрын
@@HenBasketFireAlarms Well the official term is QuickStart, but I call it “ShitStart” because they suck
@HenBasketFireAlarms3 ай бұрын
Nice video! I do wonder if the school was still for hard of hearing students, if the replacement audibles would have been low frequency, given that the 520Hz is more effective than 3kHz or broadband horns at alerting hard of hearing people
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Hard to say we don't even use them in sleeping areas at least none that I've seen
@HenBasketFireAlarms3 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricInteresting, for how similar fire stuff is between the US and Canada in some places, they sure are different in many others
@dutchwolf26753 ай бұрын
Nice! really interesting old system! is the residential CO gonna get replaced for a notifier one? also why did the PA go off at 20:00? Keep up the great work. cant wait for the other videos
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
No the CO detector is not quite a residential one but it's not part of the fire alarm system and the school like many has bells for class change
@mewing-gawd3 ай бұрын
all my schools are finally getting remodeled (the newest building is from 1976 and the oldest was from 1928 and it was knocked down)
@achannelwithnopurpose19773 ай бұрын
Save as much as you can of the old stuff. Definitely don’t come across a setup like that much anymore.
@jaybird20003 ай бұрын
Interested seeing the New System . 19:55 I heard a Bell in the background too. Im pretty sure its Bogen Multicom 2000.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Yes I believe so
@handyfm3 ай бұрын
Guarantee you’ve taken home at least one of those old bells :)
@djbryce3 ай бұрын
Another great video! I love the bells...just curious why they are being replaced since they clearly work well (and loud)? If it ain't broke... Looking forward to Pt. 2!
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
The strobes don't synchronize and to put horns in the classroom you would then have mixed signals which is illegal and you need to have devices that are listed as compatible with the sync modules and have available current data sheets
@clxdyy_3 ай бұрын
It's being replaced because they're constructing a new building, and with the EST QuickStart4, it has been problematic + unreliable, explaining why a replacement is necessary.
@unerringsalt63253 ай бұрын
I wish I can keep the old fire alarms I don't even have one to start a collection yet
@hulktheman2323 ай бұрын
40:15, the letter O on the bottom right corner means that the zone is open and can't arm.
@maiyo85183 ай бұрын
I like mechanical horn fire alarms
@bluetheta3 ай бұрын
Does the company require you to recycle those old strobes? If not, paint the lens a different color per device and wire them together to make a super disco. You could start a DJ business.
@Thesystemsensor3 ай бұрын
Hello Nic 👋 oh by the way someone at my school pulled a pull station
@michaelloving80043 ай бұрын
I guess that white plate next to the last strobe is a eol resistor plate in the gym
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Yes exactly
@FourtyFiftyEighty3 ай бұрын
30:43 is so relatable. Theres some systems or parts that people freak out over that are so garbage. Most recent one I did was a Siemens MXL. They suck
@whelenvortexr42 ай бұрын
My old high school has an MXL IQ and it's 24 years old and still works like a champ.
@DanTDMJace14 күн бұрын
@@whelenvortexr4modern mxls suck
@michaelclark20223 ай бұрын
I thought it was funny how there's a random duck chillin in the back 😂😂
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
lol seagull
@siphonralarms94113 ай бұрын
Another school, another system to be replaced. Hopefully the wiring polarity won’t be a nightmare this time around…
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
This one was fine then again from 1994 so more recent
@The-creator-of-good-videos-15Ай бұрын
1:42: I think NewAgeServerAlarm actually had that heat detector alarm. If I find a video of it, I’ll probably send the link. Or something…
@christopherrios83933 ай бұрын
Do you know if these customers ever complain about needing to upgrade the fire alarm systems? I've run into a lot of people who get upset that they need to repair, replace, or even install fire alarms because they've apparently never heard of them before. It's something that bothers me because they seem to not even care that these devices have the potential to save lives or upwards of millions of dollars in damages
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I guess you could say we are the customer as I am working as apprentice with the school district electrical department which is in house and we do the install with the fire alarm company who creates the program and supplies the parts. I don't have experience dealing with Non-government funded projects.
@numatic12stan3 ай бұрын
what model are the strobes, I'm thinking about buying one.
@Dawezil3 ай бұрын
Hey Nic is there any chance that if you get some of these old modules or stations i can maybe buy some off you?
@robertbeyers13083 ай бұрын
Awesome video keep the good work up. But I do have a question for you. At timestamp 33:27 you show something unexpected. The question is what is beside you on your left side? Is that one of the spiders from the USA movie Eight Legged Freaks? If yes you'd better run away. 😅 We have to have fun here. So you're welcome for the unexpected laugh in this comment.
@The-creator-of-good-videos-15Ай бұрын
NIC guy, do you actually have an RC Quadcopter drone? If so, that is amazing!
@nics-systems-electricАй бұрын
Yes I have a drone I've use it for a lot of my videos
@The-creator-of-good-videos-15Ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Oh, cool.
@ryancrooks1233 ай бұрын
So Part 2 Of Replacing The Fire Alarm System Is Coming Out On Saturday
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
No next Wednesday
@NS-Sirens2 ай бұрын
38:48 id love to buy one or two
@maxdutiel3 ай бұрын
At the end of this saga, you should show how many Integrities you removed. Would be very interesting to see.
@maxdutiel3 ай бұрын
Also, I do think that having AVs in the classrooms is a good idea in general.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Having devices in the classrooms is definitely good it means the corridor devices don't need to be as loud I think 65 or 70 strobes came out
@joshuamata64573 ай бұрын
Did you keep any of the old one's
@Blue_spy13 ай бұрын
Bro my school the 2nd and 3rd floor has 4 fire alarms in each hallway 1 in each bathroom 1 for each room 2 for the cafeteria 1 for the entrances
@mynintendogamingfeed52083 ай бұрын
That's awesome; can this building be compliant with our U.S. NFPA 72 code regulations in Canada? In addition, in place of the bells, the horn/strobe fire alarm notification devices could be useful there.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about the US codes it's CAN/ULC-S524 and some others that covers fire alarm installations in Canada
@JoshuaKing-qb4fj3 ай бұрын
39:23 that song was by an artist from the city i live in lol and then at the end nic was listening to gangstas paradise
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
You must be a Calgary guy next province over from me
@JoshuaKing-qb4fj3 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric sure am
@TransGalGaming2 ай бұрын
tighten your LP! that noise drives me bonkers lol
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean
@rolandmcphail50603 ай бұрын
in the gym, what are the cables for that are zip tied to the conduit? in the u.s, that's a code violation. but it is one of those things we do anyway, even though we know its wrong, myself included.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Speaker wire for speakers that are no longer there I'm not sure if it would be compliant or not would probably depend if the inspector was in a bad mood or not as you aren't supposed to use electrical equipment for a supporting device unless it's rigid conduit supporting electrical components but at the same time we are allowed to strap BX to pipe
@rolandmcphail50603 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric thats true, not heavily enforced here and not a safety hazzard unless there are a crazy amount of cables to weigh down and dislodge the conduit. also, may be fully legal in canada, im not at all familiar with your codes.
@rolandmcphail50603 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric ok, at first i didnt see the rest of your post, seems your code is similar to ours
@GaryBeltz3 ай бұрын
Is this the school that you fid the annual in where you made a bunch of loud noises into the radio and the female electrician said "OK ots reset and that was close to my head!"?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Man I have no idea
@Legosmasher9103 ай бұрын
Can you like keep the old fire alarms or no.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Most stuff if it's actually worth keeping
@jbeezy23_203 ай бұрын
Where do you guys take the old devices after replacing them?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I take some devices however most go in our metal bin or garbage bin
@keithpierce84583 ай бұрын
The est integrity’s are discontinued
@All_ConsumingBandu3 ай бұрын
I don't wanna be rude but on your channel I only see L series horns. I don't know if you heard of Wheelock but I like those more for whatever reason.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
We don't use wheelock but trust me I've heard of them usually replacing their broken products. system sensor has by far the best variety of options especially in a bilingual Canadian version and wheelock seems to suffer from quality issues more so therefore system sensor is what's typically used
@ryguy20063 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricthat's fair. System sensor has fairly good devices and a lot of customisability in terms of lettering and lenses.
@hotbytesB3 ай бұрын
When are you going to post part two video?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Wednesday
@major_lynx47463 ай бұрын
how can we get the old stobles
@TheJakeman7893 ай бұрын
Nice upgrade, but if the old system still worked, what was the point of replacing. Fixing something that is not broken it seems.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I explained that in the video that it needs to be replaced for the expansion as they don't sell parts for it anymore and this particular panel is the next on the list for preventive upgrade as it's much easier to replace a system over spring break when you are prepared and the school isn't occupied versus it failing out of nowhere.
@TheW.L.JenkinsCompany3 ай бұрын
Love hearing that continuous sound!! Do you think it is better that the strobe lights are separate from the bell, or would it be more effective if there was a flasher on the bell?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
The strobes have to be separate from the bells as the bells do not have strobes on them like modern horn strobes do
@TheW.L.JenkinsCompany3 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I was wondering how to get into contact with you and possibly supply some of our different bells. If you have an interest in how they are made you can always receive a tour. Would love to have you visit!
@joeycaridi30303 ай бұрын
First time seeing you of the new things of this replacement 1. Replacing a an EST QuickStart 2. Installing a different Notifier panel which is the NFS2-3030 3. Installing a L-Series ceiling mount fire alarm and L-Series fire alarms of different customizations rather than P2RLs which are white ones and strobe only units
@michellebertrand77022 ай бұрын
30:38 Not everybody, I hate those exit signs.
@mircomamsecohardwareandsafety3 ай бұрын
Dangit i did not get 1st comment; But i am still happpy :D
@ItsKalle2313 ай бұрын
kinda sad to see that old system go and get replaced
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
This one's nothing to worry about just sounds like every other Canadian system from the last 50 years
@aerhardt3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it wasn’t really that old anyways. The new system will provide far better protection.
@Dilsonalarmsandelectrics3 ай бұрын
What’s gonna happen to your job after you graduate high school?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I won't work with the school district anymore
@FireSystem453 ай бұрын
This is pretty cool. Do you know what they do with the old devices, besides throwing them out do you get to keep some? (Oh also, your videos made me realize this is literally my dream job)
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I kept some devices as usually they would be thrown out everything you saw in my SUV at the end of the video was stuff I took
@FireSystem453 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricthat’s cool
@themexicanmerc3 ай бұрын
I have never seen an English and French lettering on that SCWL (pretty hard to find in the States actually)
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I've seen them all over the place they are nothing special to see here
@maxdutiel3 ай бұрын
Is this William Isaac Shart?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
No
@numatic12stan3 ай бұрын
what do you do with all the old devices????
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Usually they would be thrown out and recycled however I do take some of them as far as the stuff I actually want the rest gets recycled
@starlite5283 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised you're setting the candela so high on all of these. Then again, you're in Canada and I'm in the US so different standards. EST Quickstart is a high priority pain in the ass, lol!. replace a device? re-do the mapping. Test the system? re-do the mapping. Don't have the software? Call a licensed dealer. Sheesh. I have a video of the strobes at my old high school going off, all unsyncronized. That system was installed in 1999, and has since been replaced. ( v=oTsmdsLy_uQ )
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Yeah usually we don't touch Candela however I asked and I was told to match the old devices. The mapping on Edwards is definitely a huge pain causes more problems than it solves. Luckily this one was conventional so didn't have that issue.
@Kinboy4712 ай бұрын
Hey, Nic, is this school right by your house? What's the location of the school in this video?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
No the school by my house is a single floor sprinklered building with an addressable system
@Kinboy4712 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric What's the school's location on Google Maps?
@MitchGaming3813 ай бұрын
Why the NFS2 3030 the NFS2-640 or NFS-320 would have done fine
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I suggest you watch the video and you will hear me mention what you have asked. the 320 as previous comments have said would not be large enough however as I said in the video a 640 would be sufficient
@crazywarp363 ай бұрын
That old system seems more of a upgrade than the new one
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@crazywarp363 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Mabye
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
@@crazywarp36 then you will see the new system is a huge upgrade
@crazywarp363 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric why not just mod
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
@@crazywarp36 I'm not sure what you mean
@mikesapienza12113 ай бұрын
Will they let you keep the devices you remove by chance?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
The stuff that I showed in my SUV at the end of the video was the stuff I kept not everything just some stuff I wanted
@mircomamsecohardwareandsafety3 ай бұрын
when is part 2
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Wednesday
@Dilsonalarmsandelectrics3 ай бұрын
Why are you using that thing on the bottom of the CPU last time at your high school that was making your system un synchronized I’ll probably go with a booster panel. I’m just saying I’m not trying to be rude.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
The only thing below the CPU is the power supply the system needs power to operate. The things that cause synchronization problems are the XP6-CA cards with sync-1A modules
@Epicgames-mx2ov3 ай бұрын
Do you keep the strobes
@Epicgames-mx2ov3 ай бұрын
*?
@peterking11343 ай бұрын
What is SLC?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Signalling line circuit it is the data loop that the addressable devices communicate on
@shuaybghaffoor32983 ай бұрын
Just FYI…. 5:45 it’s a heat detector and at 5:47 that’s a smoke detector. You mixed them up.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
That is not the case here you must be using different symbols than what we use. Not only in that physical location those are the devices that are installed but the legend also indicates what symbols are used for what devices and the way I described them is correct.
@shuaybghaffoor32983 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I thought this was in Canada. I'm a CFAA certified fire tech here and those are how the smokes and heats are always shown. As long as that's what the drawings show you're good. Just wanted to point that out 👍
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
@@shuaybghaffoor3298this is Canada, but I can promise you where I said there is a smoke detector there was indeed a smoke detector in the corridors and where I said there was a heat detector in rooms that is true to out in the field. What was actually there
@shuaybghaffoor32983 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Awesome, good to know!
@mircomamsecohardwareandsafety2 ай бұрын
NFS2 3030
@chrisg64923 ай бұрын
Do you get paid to do this? Or is this volunteer?
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Still a student so just doing it for apprenticeship hours not paid
@chrisg64923 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Student in what? Electrician?
What makes it not listed for horizontal installation? There is no strobe coverage limitation due to horizontal placement.
@Skulldozer252 ай бұрын
My bad
@Carwashlover3 ай бұрын
Can you sell some of those strobes for like 5 dollars I would gladly buy one
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Five dollars wouldn't even cover 25% of the shipping
@corbinplayzroblox97603 ай бұрын
Nah he’ll never sell any of the strobes let alone for 5 dollars
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
@@corbinplayzroblox9760 I'd sell them if someone wanted them but I ain't going to lose money on it
@f1fan1123 ай бұрын
Fire Alarm system designed for people that are hard of hearing getting replaced by a system with a ton of Spectralert Advances, a horn designed to make people deaf on high volume... LOL I kid I kid... It's better than the system we have in the school I work at, where the kids just laugh at the fire alarm because it's pathetically quiet and unintimidating.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
These ones are L-series but similar they are what replaced the advance and because of the amount in the school and having them in the classrooms we could set them all to low volume
@f1fan1123 ай бұрын
@nics-systems-electric I kind of figured that. Is my school has a variant of L-series, but they are all voice evac speaker strobes.
@TheMcGeeTwinsКүн бұрын
I have a P2RL it is quite at low volume
@Max_And_His_Tech3 ай бұрын
First
@1bejarrr3 ай бұрын
To replace these fire alarm do you guys need to power off the circuit
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Yes it's ideal to keep power on the circuits that way you can test the polarity when installing devices
@1bejarrr3 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricive been planning to replace the spectralert classic that is in my apartment unit with the new system sensor p4rl and the srl and idk if I could do it with the electricity on or I have to tell someone to turn it off for me that's my question
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
@@1bejarrr you don't in your apartment as that is illegal and if something was to happen whether it was your fault or not you could be held liable not something I would do in an apartment when your work could kill someone else and you weren't covered by anything
@1bejarrr3 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric what about calling someone or get the managers permission
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
@@1bejarrr I personally wouldn't want to take on that responsibility
@noahater57852 ай бұрын
That looks like an absolute mess of electrical wiring 🤣🤣🤣
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Not this school this one is pretty clean which makes the job much easier
@wibwabz3 ай бұрын
why is the light pull station next to you in this video flashing so fast? [ kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJPShaOCbaitp7s ]
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you are referring to as your link goes to a different video
@wibwabz3 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric yes, i am talking about the video the link goes to.
@MichaelKsAlarms3 ай бұрын
Can i have the old panel please
@SUBIFYOUWANNAGOINTOMYBASEMENT3 ай бұрын
I am honestly really surprised that you swore😆
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Surprised? It's a constant problem I have
@siphonralarms94113 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I constantly swear as well, hence why I don’t normally talk in my videos lol