TROY (2004) DIRECTOR'S CUT MOVIE REACTION | Arab Muslim Brothers Reaction

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[@HABIBIBROTHERS717]

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[@roscoestark6589]

@HABIBIBROTHERS717 I'm sure you are flooded with people suggesting movies but I want to recommend an older movie that is epic and I highly recommend, it's called "the outlaw josey Whales" my all time favorite.

[@James-z2c7g]

You guys criticized the Trojans for not having honor when Hector saved Paris from Menelaus. but when Achilles killed Hector in single combat you wanted the trojan archers to shoot him. ??? Hector was possibly the most honorable character (which is why he chose to fight achilles though doubting his chances) but he loved his brother too much to allow Menelaus to kill him (if Paris wasn't going to defend himself). Achilles was honorable as well but his motivation was glory whereas Hector's motivation was to defend his brother and then defend his ppl from the consequences of his brother's bad decisions. Hector was forced into a war he did not want yet he did his duty. There are complexities to the characters and their decisions which make it impossible to summarize them with "hes an idiot" or "you dumbass". Priam (trojan king) was a good man though perhaps a bit too kind-hearted and superstitious to win against the cunning, power-hungry Agamemnon. He was not stupid. The obvious difference between the 2 kings is that one went to war because of greed and lust for power while the other (though misguided) went to war because he loved his sons, his ppl and his gods and was overly confident that they could not fall to a foreign invader. The contrast was not smart king vs stupid king. BTW for ppl who are familiar with the Iliad, my comments are based on the movie only.

[@brianmangan15]

You guys should check out 'Last of the Mohicans'

[@florianlion8215]

Just to clarify: The reason why Achilles talks like this/ behaves like this is because according to the greek mythology he‘s litteraly a demigod. So he knows things about the gods that normal people don’t know and is protected by devine power.

[@1981_Reacts]

React to Green Street 2005 ? Same actor from this movie.

[@joedirt688]

"If they ever tell my story, let them say I walked with giants. Men rise and fall like the winter wheat, but these names will never die. Let them say I lived in the time of Hector tamer of horses. Let them say, I lived in the time of Achilles." - Odysseus

[@RyanTravis23]

The actor who played the Greek King Odysseus, the one Achilles liked, is Sean Bean who plays Boromir in Lord of the Rings and Ned Stark in Game of Thrones. Such a dope actor.

[@highlandergunn9240]

He survives in this one also 😂 Uncommon for him

[@GaParanormal]

This is the first movie he didn't die in

[@lanceresultay014]

@@highlandergunn9240 he can only survive if everyone dies! lol

[@user-wr9ej6xe4j]

A dope actor???? You realize how dumb this sounds right?

[@jarlnils435]

@@highlandergunn9240 now that's solderin'!

[@angelagraves865]

In Greek mythology Zeus tasked Paris with choosing the fairest goddess, and each offered him a prize: Hera offered power and the regions of Asia; Athena offered wisdom, strength, beauty, and invincibility in battle; and Aphrodite promised him Helen, the most beautiful woman in the world. And we know what Paris picked. You may have heard the famous line, "The face that launched a thousand ships." It's from Christopher Marlowe's 16th century play Doctor Faustus that refers to Helen of Troy's beauty and its destructive power.

[@jarlnils435]

Aphrodite is also a war goddess because of this. Love can cause war. And she sleeps with Ares, god of war.

[@juniorrod7868]

In Greek mythology: All of the gods were invited to Peleus and Thetis' wedding and brought many gifts, except Eris (the goddess of discord), who was stopped at the door by Hermes, on Zeus' order. Insulted, she threw from the door a gift of her own: a golden apple on which was inscribed the word Kallistē ("To the fairest"). The apple was claimed by Hera, Athena, and Aphrodite. Eventually, Zeus ordered Hermes to lead the three goddesses to Paris, a prince of Troy who, unaware of his ancestry, was being raised as a shepherd on Mount Ida, because of a prophecy that he would be the downfall of Troy.

[@Flash-ml3tl]

In the Greek mythology, Achilles is invulnerable. Son of Peleus and the nymph Tetides, he was immerged in the Stige river, while still an infant, hold by his heel, and gained invulnerability except for his heel, which didn't touch the water. The war of Troy lasted 12 years, and Omero told the story by using Greek myths. Greek Gods also parecipated the war, and they were portaied like humans, which they could even have affairs with (for example, Hercules is one of the sons of Zeus, had with a human female, that's why is a half-god). The famous "Achille's wrath" came because of Patroclus' death, who in the story was his companion, not his cousin.

[@cavaliothorson7755]

His best friend not companion...

[@JonCombo]

Didn't bother to double dip!?

[@Flash-ml3tl]

@@cavaliothorson7755 Nope, they were secret partners in the Iliad.

[@cavaliothorson7755]

@@Flash-ml3tl Not according to Homer

[@Deukish]

Earliest known source for Achilles being invulnerable was Statius, a Roman poet, ~800 years after Homer's time.

[@megavideopowermegavideopow8657]

“The face that launched a thousand ships” “Helen of Troy” “Beware of Greeks baring gifts” “Trojan Horse “

[@One_foot_in_the_Grave]

Hector was a warrior with honor. Only a coward would shoot 1 man , who challenged their best fighter to 1 on 1.

[@flowcade6997]

Pulled a Ned Stark, his honor got him killed. Should have just refused Achilles challenge but let Achilles leave (no archers shooting him) since Achilles let him live during the temple fight.

[@mudra5114]

​@@flowcade6997Achilles would not have left, he wanted revenge for his beloved cousin. Honour has led to the deaths of millions, nothing new here.

[@liaml.e.5964]

Fun fact: Ajax (the big guy with the hammer) did not die at the war of Troy, he fought Hector twice, leading to a stalemate on both occasions, earning eachother's respect. After Achilles' death, he took his corpse back to Greece.

[@bigw725]

he did die. there are differing stories, but in general it is said he killed himself after not being awarded the armor of achilles edit: just noticed you said he didn’t die in the trojan war, which is correct

[@GaParanormal]

Awesome movie ... I remember when people thought Troy was just a myth until the Unearthed it in Turkey

[@angelagraves865]

I remember that. Heinrich Schliemann.

[@DJLtravelvids]

They still haven't unearthed Troy. It's a city called Wilusa which is near the site of where Troy might have been. They have found a settlement which existed both before and after the events of this movie but no evidence of a Greek invasion and the city being raised. Is this the Troy referred to in the Illiiad? Who knows.

[@psylo7293]

Lol you remember that? What are you 200 years old? 😂 Schliemann discovered Troy in 1873 😂

[@psylo7293]

@@angelagraves865 👆😂

[@florianlion8215]

Well - it’s both: Myth and history of this place

[@kylewestlake982]

If you guys wanna see more historical epics, you should do Gladiator next.

[@florianlion8215]

Yes 🙌 great movie

[@TheJordanK]

It’s always crazy to me that so many people learned English from music or tv/movies. It’s very impressive. Spanish is my second language and it took me years of studying and immersing in another country to become somewhat fluent. Seems to be very common for most the world to speak English pretty well just from the media that is consumed. Pretty cool.

[@andressousa9006]

Congrats, learining spanish is not easy, many different pronunciations, the use of the Ñ alone...

[@drewf8619]

@1:43 The Trojans who survived the fall of Troy. Went on to found the Roman Empire (according to mythology).

[@Aries41474]

That shot Paris took at the end is still refered to in medicine today. It's a well known medical term...."Achilles heel" is what an injury to that tendon is called.

[@scifiauthor]

Actually, an "Achilles heel," can refer to any weak spot on a person (or armor, or other defense). The Achilles' tendon is part of the heel of the foot.

[@khatack]

The tendon is called "Achilles tendon", not the injury.

[@James-z2c7g]

A person's "achilles heel" is their one weakness. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Achilles tendon (although you could say that that particular part of the body was Achilles' achilles heel because it was thought to be his one weekness). An achilles heel doesn't even have to be physical. It could be a mental or an emotional weakness.

[@khatack]

@@James-z2c7g Yes, and to clarify in the context of the original comment, it is NOT a 'medical term' ^^

[@Scotsman1969]

There’s an old saying: Beware Greeks bearing gifts.

[@lightyagami1752]

Timeo danaos et dona ferentes.

[@Toomaletoopaletoostale]

The leftside brother used “whim” correctly. Its similar to desire or impulse. You guys have an impressive level of english for it being a second language mainly learned from music and TV.

[@markhill3858]

The story of the siege of Troy, (called the Iliad) is actually the oldest known story from Europe. It's way before rome .. it's like the first known history .. if it's even half true :)

[@jockobeans]

If you are wondering about the young man Parris gave the sword to, Aeneas. He is the Legendary founder of the Roman people with his descendents being Romulus and Remus. The famed Roman poet Virgil wrote his own epic called the Aeneid. It recounts the travels of the survivors of Troy's fall as they make their way West. One place they landed was Carthage, then a colony of the Phoenicians. It's ruler was Queen Dido of Tyre (in modern Lebanon) who went to Carthage to to flee her tyrant brother. Dido became madly in love with Aeneas, but he, like Achilles, follows his destiny to Italy. Dido was so distraught that he left her, he cursed Aeneas, saying that her people and his will never be at peace, setting up the enmity Carthage and Rome would have centuries later in the Punic Wars.

[@abelgreen5046]

I’ve read the Iliad and the Aeneid many times, but cannot recall Paris handing the sword to a Trojan (Aeneas). That is such a cool tidbit, and makes me want to read them yet again.

[@Antwyrd]

You guys would love the film Master and Commander. It has Russell Crowe in it, the main character in Gladiator.

[@ryann5247]

In Christian iconography, Hector is often depicted as occupying purgatory, since he lead an honorable and christian-like life, despite not being a Christian. The idea is that if enough people pray for him, he may enter heaven on judgement day.

[@auxaus4613]

You guys consistently select absolute cinematic masterpieces to react to 😊 i really am enjoying your videos, keep it up

[@chemtrooper]

I think the legend of the sword of Troy goes on to be the sword in the stone. And Troy is on the coastline of modern day Turkey.

[@anthonycarrera7891]

No, but it becomes the sword of Roland, one of the Paladins of Charlemagne. It was recently stolen from France

[@scifiauthor]

Great reaction. Many parts were hard for me to watch, too. Especially the parts with the innocent being killed. Sucks so bad. I find it interesting, though, that the story ends with Odysseus narrating. His story, after all, was really just beginning. Have you guys read or heard of the Odyssey? It's the story of how he tries for years to get home after the fall of Troy. Quite famous. On an unrelated note, I wonder if ya'll have ever seen The Prince of Egypt? It's animated, and a musical, but it tells the story of the Exodus (from the Old Testament) I think you would like it. Many consider it to be the best version of the Exodus story.

[@gerryortiz6384]

Actually, this movie is a combined adaptation of both "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" especially considering "Iliad" ends after a character's funeral (no spoilers, lol) which happens during the war, it doesn't end with the fall of Troy. Troy's defeat and how they're defeated isn't revealed in the "Iliad" but in "Odyssey" which may or may not have preceded the "Iliad." Most people readily presume the "Odyssey" is a sequel, but most academics agree that the "Iliad" could've just as much been a "prequel." Actually, the "Odyssey" isn't even really about Ulysses (as he's also known) journeying to get back home, but rather his attempt to regain control of his kingdom Ithaca since it fell into the wrong hands while he was at war for 10 years and then 10 years hoping to get back home. Although it did indeed take him a long time to get back home, most of that time wasn't spent on a great journey, but rather he was held captive by a goddess who was infatuated with him. His initial journey before getting caught took him like 3 years bc he kept getting delayed by gods that didn't like him and involved in other people's drama. He's held captive for 7 years and then it only takes him a mere 20 days to get back home bc the gods that liked him interceded for him against the gods that didn't. They agreed to let him take his chances at re-taking his kingdom or die trying (I think). Ultimately, he's able to triumph with the help of a goddess.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

The greeks and others would put coins on the eyes of their dead before burying or burning them, so that the spirit of the dead could pay Charon the boatman to carry their soul across the river Styx into the afterlife/underworld, a soul who had no coins, was believed to be unable to pay his way into the underworld and so their soul was doomed to walk and fade in purgatory

[@markhill3858]

Unfortunately for this story, we know coins had not been invented during the time of the siege of Troy :) the story has shifted over time and we cannot know the original.

[@markhill3858]

Chiron is a famous centaur .. you mean charon, or sometimes spelt keron.:)

[@mckenzie.latham91]

​@@markhill3858yes that is more cause of auto correct

[@angelagraves865]

Achilles and the Myrmidons storming the beach are one of the best parts of this movie.

[@philmakris8507]

Eric Bana also played Hoot, the best character in Black Hawk Down

[@malcolmdrake6137]

What an odd statement.

[@unomacabre]

eyyyyyeheheey!! BACHEM HABIBI!! Much love!! GREAT MOVIE!

[@dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554]

I also agree that the Trojan Horse was their only option. Not only could they not breach the wall, not only did they not seem to have a battering ram, let alone catapults or trebuchets, but even if they DID have those things, as you saw, they couldn't even REACH the wall, because of the absolutely elite archery unit Troy had on those walls, and a very professional, well trained heavy infantry force defending at the base of the walls. They would get annihilated. If I were the Greek commander, literally the only other thing I can think of that MIGHT work, is to dig. Dig from the beach, make a rough mining tunnel that runs under the stone foundation of the wall, then, have engineers pull the support beams, collapsing the tunnel, which could destabilize the wall and even collapse a huge portion of it. But that's a maybe even if the engineers did everything perfectly. The other problem with that idea, is that it takes a LOT of time. Weeks, months, and while your men are working day and night on this mile or two mile long tunnel, digging inch by inch, they're also being attacked constantly by raiding parties, probably cavalry and horse archers, doing hit and run surprise attacks constantly to slow you down and frustrate your efforts, try to make you give up, or even run out of food. Then your army is starving and your new objective will be escaping that country with your life. So not enough time, or resources for a tunnel. Not enough men or equipment for an all out open assault to breach the walls traditionally. The horse was a low cost, high risk plan. There was almost no way it would work. But if it did, you basically just got through the legendary walls of troy, with virtually no casualties, it would be seen as genuine genius by your peers and opponents alike. And if it didn't work, well then you only lose like 30, maybe 50 men, and a couple of boats for the wood, as apposed to assaulting the walls again like they tried to do in the beginning, and losing like 8,000 men all over again, sacrificing thousands of lives and gaining nothing.

[@stevo728822]

Peter O'Toole plays the King Priam. His most famous role is in the movie Lawrence Of Arabia. You got to watch that one.

[@stevo728822]

When I first watched this movie and saw Achilles fighting Hector, I always expected Hector (Eric Bana) to turn into the Hulk. He played the role of Bruce Banner in the first Hulk movie.

[@adrianaslund8605]

What's interesting about this story is that it was basically like an ancient version of a movie everyone quoted. The romans and as far up as england and sweden people imagined their kingdom being formed from the survivors of Troy. Also its interesting that the trojans were often treated sympathetically even by greek playwrights. Even though the ancestors of the greeks were literally the myceneans. That's pretty interesting. That they wanted their audience to feel sympathy for what was an enemy in ancient times. It wasn't seen as a battle between good and evil. Making it psychologically complex.

[@Aries41474]

One of my favorite movies!! ❤

[@James-z2c7g]

The 2 greek kings (the brothers) were both in braveheart. And the 2 princes were both in Blackhawk down.

[@UniqueArtsCostcoPicasso]

Just an interesting side note. In the movie they had Hector kill Ajax but in the original story he actually kills himself due to shame(due to wanting the armor of Achilles and the resulting events after his death). Ajax was essentially a generational hero that would have been the name to remember had he not been alive at the same time as Achilles who ended up overshadowing him.

[@SethBarbrick]

Aeneas led the survivors to found a new nation that would exact vengeance more great and terrible on Greece, Rome as they conquered and obliterated entire cities when they conquered Greece, so it says in myth at least that the Romans were once Trojans

[@Itisinthename]

''TOTUM GRAECORUM EST'' Cicero.

[@vvreno]

Wow, that sacking of Troy is much more graphic in the director's cut. 😧

[@pvtj0cker]

"Peace is for the women and the weak." - OG Agamemnon

[@DragonEmpresTakhisis]

I love how you guys go back and forth between real American swearing then the censored version 😂😂😂 my favorite kid friendly cursing is "what the fluff" and "what the flip" 😂😂😂

[@brickmaestro8243]

Troy was in modern Western Turkey.

[@dingus6317]

Ancient Anatolia

[@ronmaximilian6953]

Western Anatolia

[@brickmaestro8243]

We're talking in a modern context. Similar to how early Romans were in Italy, a once non-existent country, Troy was in the country of Turkey. You guys are coping. Anatolia is in Turkey.

[@brickmaestro8243]

​@@Astuga It was in modern Turkey. No one said Turkey as a nation-state existed back then. The pyramids of Giza are in a location of present-day Giza, but the pyramids were never built in a city named Giza. Let's not play these semantical games. Go to any professional work and people will frame it similar to how I did, "modern Turkey", "present-day Turkey" etc. It's a basic accepted vernacular of geography. You also have to apply some common sense. If someone asks, where was Eturia? Answering: "It existed in what is today modern Italy", is a sensible response, despite the modern notion of Italy not existing in the Iron Age of that region. And I suspect you guys would not throw a fit like you did when Turkey was mentioned. Anatolia and Asia Minor are Greek-centric terms, not even endemic to how the ancient people of present-day Turkey called themselves.

[@markcoleman7246]

@@brickmaestro8243 We wuz kangs?!

[@abelgreen5046]

This story, or rather a poem, was presumably written by the author Homer, which we know nothing about. Regardless, this is considered one of the greatest literary works, and thought to be entirely fiction, until the ruins of Troy were discovered in 1871, somewhere in modern day Turkey. A few things to note: Achilles is half-god, and his only vulnerability is his achilles (there’s a backstory there). Paris shoots him in the achilles with a poisoned arrow, killing him on the battlefield. Honor and glory meant everything to these great warriors-in fact, the only way man could achieve immortality was through threat feats living on well after death. Helen of Troy is regarded as “the most beautiful woman” on earth. She was given as a gift to Paris by Aphrodite, since Paris deemed Aphrodite as the most beautiful goddess in a contest between the gods. Lastly, the Trojans that flee Troy move south towards Italy, and form the Roman Empire. Their journey is covered in the Aeneid, another great literary work. I don’t recall this tidbit from the book, but when Paris hands the sword to a Trojan and asks him if he can fight and comments that as long as it stays in the hands of a Trojan, I loved that. That is part of the Trojan, and now Roman, legacy. The three books, The Iliad, The Oddesy, and The Aeneid have shaped western ideas and philosophies in more ways than people imagine. They are all tied together in some ways-in fact, Oddiseus plays a big role in this movie, and he is a main character in this movie.

[@GaParanormal]

I'm sure somebody's already said it in the comments but Achilles is The Greatest Warrior that ever lived..... the myth is his mother was an immortal goddess to dipped him into the River Styx so that he would be Untouchable but she grabbed she was holding him by his Achilles tendon and that was his only vulnerability...... and they say that's how he was killed...... and that's where we get the term Achilles tendon... or when people talk about somebody's weakness they say..... that's their Achilles heel

[@James-z2c7g]

You guys criticized the Trojans for not having honor when Hector saved Paris from Menelaus. but when Achilles killed Hector in single combat you wanted the trojan archers to shoot him. ??? Hector was possibly the most honorable character (which is why he chose to fight achilles though doubting his chances) but he loved his brother too much to allow Menelaus to kill him (if Paris wasn't going to defend himself). Achilles was honorable as well but his motivation was glory whereas Hector's motivation was to defend his brother and then defend his ppl from the consequences of his brother's bad decisions. Hector was forced into a war he did not want yet he did his duty. There are complexities to the characters and their decisions which make it impossible to summarize them with "hes an idiot" or "you dumbass". Priam (trojan king) was a good man though perhaps a bit too kind-hearted and superstitious to win against the cunning, power-hungry Agamemnon. He was not stupid. The obvious difference between the 2 kings is that one went to war because of greed and lust for power while the other (though misguided) went to war because he loved his sons, his ppl and his gods and was overly confident that they could not fall to a foreign invader. The contrast was not smart king vs stupid king. BTW for ppl who are familiar with the Iliad, my comments are based on the movie only

[@gerryortiz6384]

Guys, remember that the belief in God didn't make it to this region until 6 centuries after these events are rumored to have taken place. I say it bc you guys were like rolling your eyes at the "idol worshippers" lol they didn't know any better.

[@gerryortiz6384]

@@Astuga I said the belief in God, as in monotheism, specifically the God of Abraham belief in whom existed THOUSANDS of years before Christ. This did indeed happen 6 centuries after this. These events whether fictional or not, occurred circa the 12th or 11th century, so if you're suggesting these events take place in 1900 BC(E) or earlier, you're the one that's off by about 700 years.

[@markhill3858]

Not really .. the siege of Troy is probably about 1200 BC, not 1900bc :) you're in the ballpark tho, it's the begging of what we call history.

[@markhill3858]

Yahweh was worshipped by the phonecians before Judaism was invented .. but he was just a small god in a large family back then, there was no concept of "one true god" yet.

[@gerryortiz6384]

@@markhill3858 Judaism wasn't "invented" sir, it evolved from Abraham's faith in YHWH long before the Phoenicians, about 8 centuries before. Some Phoenicians worshipped Him instead of or along w their deities because news of YHWH had reached them because of Abraham and his descendants. And I wasn't referring to the existence of monotheism per se, I was very specifically referring to the arrival of the belief in the God of Abraham to the area where Troy was (northwest modern Turkiye).

[@brettmuir5679]

​@@gerryortiz6384I love this channel because it always ignites very astute comments. Thanks for contributing

[@thomasnelson6161]

Troy is believed to be in modern-day turkey. Somewhere on the west coast of asia-minor. Keep in mind that all the events and characters involved were written into the story by Homer at least 300 yrs before they may have happened. They do believe the war likely happened and Troy was destroyed, but nothing else about the story can be known for sure. It's supposed to entertain and teach some morals.

[@markhill3858]

Lol .. or the lack of morals :) those ideas didn't come along until Socrates time.

[@xman3514]

In ancient time they kill their opponent like that.they will not shoot him.its man vs man fight.its respect.they fight a man,die a man.

[@AgeOfAndrei]

InshAllah brothers, I would like to suggest a Korean Movie called TAEGUKGI. The movie is based on two South Korean brothers are forced to join in the army for war.

[@Hahndrei]

This is why Odysseus has to undergo the hardships of the Odyssey, his return home, it's like a spiritual redemption or purification to pay for his sins of what he did as a part of this war.

[@jarlnils435]

The story is much crazier than the movie. Achilles died when he tried to break open the gates of Troy all buy himself. He got a poisoned Arrow of Herakles, shot by Paris and guided by the angry God Apollon, into his foot. Than he killed several trojans before dying from his wound. After his death, the greeks got his ten year old son Neoptolemos from the island of Skyros to replace him. Neoptolemos was among the men in the horse. He threw Hector's youngest son Skamandros from the walls of troy, killed Hector's other children and took Andromache, Hector's wife, as his slave. Paris was killed while defending Briseis in the tempe of the war goddess Athena and Helena of Sparta went back to her husband Menelaos as if nothing happened. Agamemnon took Briseis as slave, went back to Mykenae and got murdered by his wife and her lover, which caused Orestes, Agamemnon's son, to kill his mother out of revenge.

[@markhill3858]

Yes, the Greeks did really worship thier greatest men :) in exactly the same way we today worship great heroes in sport .. the Olympic games is from them, this is exactly the right way to look at the old Greek superheroes. It's not about good or evil .. it's about winning and losing.

[@hmvollbanane1259]

That's true for pretty much every culture. I always found it quite interesting how different morality was back in the day and how might truly made right. E.g. in the most famous German saga, the song of the Nibelungen, the supposed hero Siegfried just casually murders two brothers who asked him to divide their inherited country fairly between them and takes it all for himself. Then he forces his entry with some friends into another king's court and basically holds everyone hostage there

[@rhondaocallaghan4413]

The only vulnerable part of Achille’s body was just above the Heel. Therefore it is known as Achille’s Heel, Great Reaction Guys😮😊

[@astrodoops]

Achilles is half god…yeah Hector had no chance and he knew it. He fought Achilles for the city, it’s pride, and to motivate who was left. And for honor.

[@roger5322]

In the movie Agamemnon said is Achilles going to take the beach of Troy with 50 men? When in fact the myrmidon accounted for 30% of the entire force. The two coins on the eyes was for paying rhe boatman. He required two coins to take the dead across the River Styx to the land of the dead. The reason why Achilles told Hector that he would cut his tongue out and his eyes and ears and would wander the underworld blind deaf and dumb is because he intended on dragging the body back to the camp and chopping it up and feeding it to his dogs which was a ultimate disgrace. And he would never be allowed into the Land of the Dead . My favorite scene in the entire movie is when King Prius went to Achilles to negotiate the return of Hector's body. Respect and honor even among enemies is a rare thing in this day and age

[@roger5322]

Oh yea, Agamemnon didn't die in Troy. He was killed years later by his wife while he was bathing. Also Troy was in what today is the country of Turkey.

[@montrelouisebohon-harris7023]

YESSS!!!! THIS IS A TRUE STORY AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE IT ONLY GETS BETTER AND IT GETS KIND OF SAD... IT'S VERY EXCITING BUT THE KING OF TROY IS SO HUMBLE AND SUCH A GOOD MAN..

[@byorum]

So interesting to see you guys mock the old religions while not seeing that the differences between those and the religions of today are only window dressing. It's all primitive. Being able to see through the limiting stories and rules of scripture doesn't mean there isn't a god. It just means leaving that oppressive, repressive, and suppressive stuff behind. In fact, I'd argue a person could feel god's presence more readily without all that other stuff that actively keeps one from it by telling them they're not good enough, or they have to follow certain rules that no longer apply, making them afraid to step out of bounds for fear of punishment. The only boundaries and punishments are those we apply.

[@wolfdaddy7098]

The Bible contains the one true religion, as will soon be proven beyond even the doubts of the willingly ignorant. The prophesies of the end times begin with the coming soul-damning great deception of worldly false "good", for which the secular world is already beginning to prepare itself.

[@keithcharboneau3331]

Achilles was shot with an arrow in his heel, TODAY we know it as the Achilles tendon, so yes Achilles's name WILL LAST through the ages, since in every country on the planet, a part of the human body was named after him.

[@jessestanley1690]

It’s called a Greek tragedy for a reason you are meant to feel this frustration with the characters

[@montrelouisebohon-harris7023]

Historically Spartans were only fighters as men and that was their only occupation. In ancient Greece little boys went off away from their parents at the age of 7 years old. Between 7 and 10 they went to one school and were instructed and of course you learned how to fight. 11 to 13 they were in another group that learned and were instructed and then done nothing but fight. 14 to 18 they were in another group that did nothing but get instruction with some kind of education and fight fight fight fight fight.... They were exceptional warriors! All boys were raised to be warriors and the mothers and girls were raised to be mothers of warriors.. they were the only Greek city-state and actually an island that was like that. Athens had a big Navy whereas Sparta had the beasts of the land fighting force. Achilles or Brad Pitt playing his part it's hilarious and the man playing ha who was the prince, the oldest one, are the best characters in Hector is the only one that has any sense in Troy and achilles has all the talent and wisdom for the most of Sparta but they all fight. You can read on the Spartans and they were nothing but one big military force and raised to fight and do nothing but and that was the only occupation the men had!!

[@connorthompson8376]

It’s interesting to note that the reason those survivors were shown was because a Roman author named Virgil would write #TheAeneid , which was a sort of sequel to #TheIliad , which #Troy is based on. The basic premise is that Aeneas, who you see in the movie, led the survivors to found a new kingdom, and the gods made sure this destiny was fulfilled, because that kingdom’s descendants would later go on to found Rome.

[@ViridisAmbrosia]

I agree with you guys. I don't understand this Trojan ruling family in this movie. Their job is to protect Troy and its people. Instead Paris puts everyone in danger because he just had to go after Helen. Then the Greeks invade, which is to say Troy and its people are now under threat. But Hector decides to uselessly sacrifice himself for bleeding heart honor and the king just lets him do it and doesn't order the archers to fire on Achilles. It's like the three of them forgot their responsibility and are more interested in high minded ideals. If I was a Trojan civilian I would not appreciate this. The right thing to do is whatever the Trojans have to defend themselves against the invaders who intend to destroy them.

[@Lorye13]

Hello, I found your channel recently and I love it, I don't know if you like animated movies but I think you guys would love Rango, much love from the Philippines and England! : )

[@hercules09able1]

In the Philippine wars, Roman and the Greeks allies those who didn't participate in the Troyan war.

[@bradclark2065]

I really appreciate your reaction to this movie

[@markhill3858]

Zeus is king of the gods. Many of the other gods are his family .. they squabble like a Greek royal family, even fight each other sometimes. This is how the Greeks saw their gods, a mirror for how they themselves behaved .. driven not by right and wrong, or justice, or anything like that .. they are driven by their passions, thier emotions.

[@sharon8015]

The reason you think you've heard of Achilles before is because you have the Achilles tendon in your foot He gets shot with an arrow in his Achilles thus enabling him to walk this enabling him to be killed. For thousands of years Troy was thought to be a myth or legend just a fabled story until 1871 when remnants of the city was actually found then it became real.

[@hercules09able1]

A Trojan princess and the local god of war (Marte), she give birth to Romulus & Remos, funder of Rome.

[@astrodoops]

There is no Haram here. neither Christianity nor Islam existed for at least 1,000 years and 1600 years respectively; Judaism wasn’t even fully formed. how many men followed Islam prior to the life of the prophet- I’ll give you a quick answer, none.

[@astrodoops]

…disregarding those facts, religion is based on faith-that is it.

[@ichkeriyalamro5553]

@@astrodoops its more about monotheism

[@franciscodeassispintodasil1257]

"Troy" é baseado numa das duas mais importantes narrativas do mundo ocidental. O livro que a conta se chama "A Ilíada", o outro livro, do mesmo autor, o grego Homero, é "A Odisseia". São, na opinião de muitos estudiosos, a essência mais profunda do Ocidente. São narrativas ficcionais, mas que fazem referencia a fatos históricos. Quanto mais se fazem descobertas arqueológicas, mas percebemos, surpresos, que há muito de verdade. Esses livros fundam um gênero narrativo novo, o poema épico. A narrativa épica é sempre trágica. Os deuses gregos eram muito ligados à ideia de destino e da impossibilidade de os homens mudarem o curso dos fatos a que estão predestinados. Nas narrativas, os gregos de um modo geral, tentavam prescindir dos deuses e do seu destino, mas não conseguiam isso nunca. A relação deles com seus deuses era sempre tensa, a relação deles com seus destinos também. Inveja, cobiça, ciúme, mesquinharia, amor, honra, coragem, ódio, vaidade, credulidade, covardia, sensatez, desejo, generosidade, ganância... todas as terríveis e maravilhosas características do ser humano aparecem nessas duas narrativas. O mal estar que elas provocam, bem como a impossibilidade de "parar de ver", se deve, penso eu, ao fato de cada um de nós tem todas essas maravilhas e horrores dentro de si. "A Ilíada" conta a história do cerco de dez anos à cidade de Troia, na Ásia Menor. "A Odisseia" narra o retorno, que leva dez anos, dos combatentes à Grécia. Na fuga, o rapaz que carrega consigo a espada de Troia, que lhe foi dada por Páris, se chama Eneias. Nos mitos, ele se tornará o ancestral de todos futuros cidadãos de Roma.

[@Strider91]

According to Greek and Roman, and Etruscan mythology, the Tojans who escaped fled to the ends of the earth to avoid the vengeance of the greeks and the collapse of their kingdom. . . And settled in central Italy, becoming either the Etruscans or the Romans . . .both claimed to be decendants, and for all we know, they could have been In fact, for the longest time in the West, we believed the illiad and the Tojan war to just be legend. . . Then we actually found the ruins of Troy, wooden horse and all. So who knows. . . Maybe it all did happen.

[@epongeverte]

It's always sad to me to see kingdoms and empires crumble will all their history and art thrown to the wind.

[@dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554]

Yes, you were absolutely right: defending the shore, the waterline of your country (if it is a country exposed to an ocean), is CRITICAL. Know what the most dangerous military operation in the world always has been, and probably always will be? Amphibious assault: attacking a country on land, from the sea, with infantry assaulting from landing craft/boats. And yet, countries always decide to do it anyway. Our worst one as Americans was probably D Day, June 6th 1944 in Normandy France. Opening scene of Saving Private Ryan will illustrate why amphibious assault is so dangerous, and just how bad it can go in a heartbeat. We got our BUTTS kicked that day. But we took the beach, at great cost.... So the reason capturing the beach when attacking a country is extremely important, is because all of your supplies and resources are across the ocean from the battlefield (think food, weapons, bullets, most of you soldiers that you will need to replenish and reinforce your forward army). Once you capture and control the beach, you can set up a steady supply network, and simply ship every thing, from bullets to people, right to the front line, safely and reliably. If you DON'T catch the beach, even if you somehow get troops deep into the country, they will basically be behind enemy lines, cut off from food and water except what they can pillage and steal from the locals. And you can't do that either, because if you win the war and the whole country hates you, you'll never successfully occupy it, no matter how much stronger you are, the people will reject you. Another lesson us Americans learned the hard way, this time in Iraq. So yeah, capturing the beach of a country on the ocean is absolutely critical, and should be done before anything else is even started. Oh, thanks for the vids guys, love y'alls reactions, it's really interesting seeing guys from another culture and how the same movies we watch provoke different thoughts, observations, feelings and ideas in people who come from another world

[@TheAlbertaChannel]

I personally like the theatrical version better then the extended version.

[@BeedramWallatusk]

1:00 It's genuinely impressive that you have such clean and concise English accents especially if you have learned most of your English from Tupac. I've known many people who have lived in English countries for decades, sometimes their entire life and never have gotten close to where you guys are at with proficiency. I wonder how much being bilingual already has helped you and your brains?

[@hercules09able1]

Paris, the most beautiful city in Europe.

[@philmakris8507]

Greece does have snowy mountains like Mt Olympus the methodical home of the Greek God's 🇬🇷

[@JKG.Photography_]

dude some of the things you guys said in this reaction were really funny! lol from America with love for you guys keep it up!

[@hercules09able1]

Achille is individualism, Hector is nationalist for his country.

[@penguintaco9038]

The "See You in History" channel has a complete series on the entirety of the Trojan war.

[@hercules09able1]

Aquelis, hero of the Greeks, Hector hero of the Romans.

[@kristisumner720]

Curious if you have seen Passion of the Christ ? Very well written and directed. Definitely a Christian movie but one I would be interested in your thoughts ( reaction )

[@Toomaletoopaletoostale]

Apocalyto (2006) needs to be added to the list, if it isn’t already. Mel Gibson directed.

[@connorthompson8376]

There are a couple of film versions of #TheOdyssey which portrays Odysseus’ trip back home to Ithaca. I really really recommend that you react to those movies. There is an older one, which uses his Roman name, Ulysses, and one that was made in the 90s. I truly want to see if you guys react to both of them.

[@GaParanormal]

51:18 just like in the movie 300 the Trojans use their walls as a choke point...... so that they're overwhelming numbers wouldn't matter to the Trojans

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

Truth be told, her Husband can't have been that great if she did not even cry a tear when he died and was glad that she was able to leave him. Little love was lost. Still a messy affair.

[@hercules09able1]

Xerxes, Persian king claimed Troy as Persians ancestors before cross to Europe.

[@hercules09able1]

Wall of Troy protect the soldiers from the flanks & rear.

[@SuperVonKiller]

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts...

[@hercules09able1]

Greeks grater skills because Olympian games founded by Hercules.

[@ks5526]

Did the dude on the right actually say he doesn’t think the Romans existed?

[@James-z2c7g]

I think he meant at that time.

[@ks5526]

@@James-z2c7g , that’s a good observation.

[@georgesale8728]

Morden day Troy is in turkey and it's been said the people who escaped Troy went on to build the foundation of Rome

[@TomorrowWeLive]

You should watch the Prince of Egypt!

[@hercules09able1]

This is the Bible of the Greeks & Roman's.

[@RickyVis]

About the confusion of the name in Arabic his name is أخيل. Maybe that's how you've heard it before.

[@nina-raedelong158]

Of all people who could have killed Achilles, why did it have to be Paris?

[@stevemarshall4822]

Based on The Illiad (attributed to Homer) - one of the great classics of the Ancient World, if you're not familiar with it.

[@markhill3858]

Very enjoyable reaction .. understanding this story is a window into why Europeans .. have done some of the worst things they have ever done. The desire for war, as a game. As a sport. It is said in this story " men will give up music, women, wine and dancing .. before they give up war". My translation is not good but that's the basic concept.

[@ilipap3695]

There was not Europeans at 1200 BC. we must be and little serious and know what we write

[@markhill3858]

In the story, the Greeks and Trojans DID believe in the same gods. But Greek gods are as childish añd divided like humans .. half supported the Greeks, half Troy, like it was a sport they watched. A game of chess with people as the pieces .. entertainment.

[@soho2409]

The Greek pantheon is probably the most dysfunctional family ever.

[@vincentsweargen8436]

My younger brother was like Paris. He was good-looking and charming. He also like women, sometimes other men's women, far too much.

[@skyebates246]

I know you guys come from a different culture but I don't understand your idea of honour hector would lose all his honour if he let the archers shoot Achilles he has to fight him himself for his own honour. It's better to die with honour live as a coward.

[@A5xxxxx]

Paris leaves the chat 😂

[@markhill3858]

To understand this story you hafta make a small mental shift. The Greeks at this time were not concerned with good and evil .. they didn't really have these ideas yet. They think instead, about winners and losers .. how many you kill, how much you steal .. basically they are pirate kings, and thier gods mirror this thinking too, they are no better. With the possible exception of Athena .. she's kinda good, but still a god of pirates really.

[@theshamurai32]

Oh, I love this movie. It isn't the most faithful adaptation, but it keeps a lot of the spirit of the Iliad.

[@marcdomroe5657]

Agamemnon ended up getting stabbed to death by one of his wives

[@Deukish]

Menelaus also wasn't killed in the epics and returned home to Sparta with Helen, where they lived a "mostly" happy life together (he fathered some sons with a servant lady because Helen wasn't giving him any), and they were reunited again in the afterlife.