Getting faster safer and with less effort. Therory lesson with 2 time WSBK champion Troy Corser at BMW RR Days 2016. Brno Racetrack
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@AGRIV8TD19632 ай бұрын
I've been riding for 57 years, I raced off-road and street. I tried to explain this exact thing to someone on another video that scolded me saying, it's physics, and there is only one way navigate a turn. I told him that simple countersteering is not always sufficient. It takes multiple techniques to get through a corner correctly, efficiently and safely. Look where you want to go, the path you want to take. Trail Braking, weight transfer forward on the bike to load the front suspension for Braking. Countersteer, lean etc. More than one way to navigate a corner, but there is only one correct way.
@darinsullaphen46836 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Troy. Great Advice on cornering stability- important lesson.
@michor107 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is interesting. I've always heard it's the other way around. I used to ride the way he explains it at the beginning. I guess I'll have to give it a try again. Cheers!
@anthonyguglielmino971 Жыл бұрын
Just stumbled on this….. going to get out and try all of this, thank you for the tips even if it was 6 years ago 😊
@Christian-px3zt2 ай бұрын
awesome presentation! thank you!
@robin50886 жыл бұрын
After testing his suggestions for a day I can confirm that I've been faster and felt safer but my lower body is exhausted now. Probably it's the case because I tried to get even more stabalization from my lower body than from my upper. Just need to get used to it and then it will be fine. Thanks for great tips Troy.
@joemaffei37604 жыл бұрын
Robin new riders arms get sore, good riders legs and core get sore! That’s how u know u r doing it right,
@gideonsikk87332 жыл бұрын
Even in this u can see how superior his body movements are .. natural ability plus training =winner
@mazaev Жыл бұрын
Similar thing here. Had to back off and go back to some of what I had been doing before just to keep from being in pain. But I did feel a lot more confident, secure on the bike, and stopped scraping toes.
@joakimolausson2013 жыл бұрын
When Troy speaks, you shut up and listen:)
@dizzylee72153 жыл бұрын
Agreed if people don't wanna learn they shouldn't be there ☺
@jefferymyles53232 жыл бұрын
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@lucianoharold84492 жыл бұрын
@Jeffery Myles instablaster :)
@Capluffy10905 жыл бұрын
people complaining about bad audio, wait for 2:20, that's when it becomes clear.
@antdx3166 жыл бұрын
When you preposition and brake for a turn, your inner leg is in optimum position. It feels awesome. You'd think you should move up on the tank from a straight (when I was very new I was doing this) but because of the braking force you move up. Just as when you go under power for straights your body is in correct position because it got thrown back. If you ride like this you will enjoy riding more and it's safer because it becomes crazy predictable and natural in feeling.
@folerx3 жыл бұрын
great advices ..but, what if rider is high or have long arms? s1000rr have small distance between handlebars and back of tank. .this is problem for me for example.
@andremazu7 жыл бұрын
Its a very good explanation and make sense , couple of riding schools have been teaching wrong body positions .
@chr11sf7 жыл бұрын
Really well explained by Troy..cheers
@2391jessie5 жыл бұрын
5:40 - Footpeg position (not on ball of foot) - instep arch/heel
@beckamy287 жыл бұрын
good teacher~
@taffgriff695 жыл бұрын
I've always ridden with the heal hooked into the pegs....started when I was a kid on a mx bike so I'm sure it's transferred over from there. It all takes practice, patience and to stay within your riding skill limits! With the correct technique and keeping your movements smooth you will become faster and safer. That's my theory anyway....have u ever noticed when you try and push over your limit, your not riding the bike, the bike is riding YOU! stay safe guys and enjoy😏
@droceretik4 жыл бұрын
You should run a race school and then perhaps capture the world superbike championship.
@UpperCut2YoFace3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@nanooks657 жыл бұрын
Can someone fix the fucking microphone!
@AlexShoe7 жыл бұрын
I shouldn't be laughing this hard lmao!!!
@Stu-SB6 жыл бұрын
Lol.. audio is terrible
@mikev24867 жыл бұрын
this was extremely incitefull
@theavangelist7 жыл бұрын
well that just changed everything. I've noticed more and more this season that GP riders are on heels most of the time if not all of the time this explains why
@darkknight177 жыл бұрын
Andy Parker why are they on heels most of the time?
@theavangelist7 жыл бұрын
the_whisperer as Troy says here every time you move from toe to heel your body shifts. it means you can upset the bike more and cause a tank slapper. mid corner you may loose grip entirely
@AegirWatches7 жыл бұрын
I actually noticed myself on TV.
@antdx3166 жыл бұрын
+Andy Parker, because if everyone trained people like this there would be room for too much potential competition
@dickflinghammer76435 жыл бұрын
@@theavangelist I cringe when I hear "tank slapper".
@danielecaracappa9615 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@ShuraTogiGo6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information marred only by the lack of technical quality and the two blokes whispering during the demonstration.
@johnhudson54147 жыл бұрын
I find the bike seems to stabilise worth the ball for on the peg end as you are concentrating your weight through the leverage of the peg
@Ro6entX7 жыл бұрын
I watched this couple of times, and just taking guess here but I think he was pressing the point of stability using mid foot on peg in straightaways, and quick turns (hence foot possibly slipping off) while making it less tired legs, etc.
@DrZench7 жыл бұрын
Rogent
@bobparry23217 жыл бұрын
BMW can engineer wonderfully but can't get the sound quality right on their video. It's so bad it compromises the quality and value of the nstruction
@droceretik4 жыл бұрын
This video was posted by Motopassion, not BMW. Clearly the audio was designed to address a room full of students and was recorded by a third party.
@theguycalledgerald7 жыл бұрын
superb advice, sound is a disaster at the beginning
@cachidril6 жыл бұрын
the camera is pointing somewhere else and the audio is bad
@Bobafat46 жыл бұрын
What model of s1000rr is this, that it has the same shape of both lights?
@abuckeye266 жыл бұрын
its a track bike with track fairings. The lights are stickers
@Bobafat46 жыл бұрын
Thx. It looks much better imo.
@K0nst4nt1n965 жыл бұрын
after the facelift of 2014 the bike looks like this.
@vv68163 ай бұрын
He explains very good and very simple respect 🫡 Someone knows maybe where can find other videos of Troy ?
@hopjop994 жыл бұрын
Its hard for me to learn to keep my hands relaxed, my hands are tense even when I drive my car. Idk why
@DonGH973 жыл бұрын
Me too, try to stay focused on staying calm. Eventually you’ll learn
@darinsullaphen46836 жыл бұрын
Not only does the microphone require attention but the camera guy needs to wake up for those close ups that Troy is demonstrating
@hakimmortal60184 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️
@rayvandenbosch24087 жыл бұрын
He makes a lot of good sense, but it isn't new. This is very similar to what is taught at Stay Upright Level 2 cornering and braking course for quite a number of years.
@ronanrogers41277 жыл бұрын
Ray van den Bosch LOL...it's what I was taught in 1978!! Seriously. There's been so much bad instruction given over the years, and also too much detail, a lot of it is pretty simple, and professional racers are just extremely good at it. The core of your body is the key...through the hips & waist, that's where your strength is. To use those muscles, you've got to have your feet positioned as Troy shows. Get the feet right, your hips/waist are right, you can use strong muscles to reposition, keeping light hands...roll off throttle smoothly, roll on throttle smoothly to keep suspension in the central sweet spot. It's not complex in terms of theory, you've just got to do it correctly and fluidly
@COLLEZZIONI Жыл бұрын
✌️✌️troy
@NovatoCustom7 жыл бұрын
this might be helpful!
@vetteman505hp Жыл бұрын
This might be some help if you could actually hear the audio! Sound quality sucks!!
@JordanFlaws7 жыл бұрын
See When you transitions from left to right into a chicane. Say your leaning left dont you use your opposite knee to push on the tank so it pulls you over to other side of the seat by gliding over instead of lifting your ass off the seat?
@JordanFlaws7 жыл бұрын
This way it always keeps a knee on the tank to keep the bike stable
@scottishyakr6 жыл бұрын
if you *glide* you create friction..this transfers to the chassis as movement....and on a race bike,you have a grippy seat foam,not that slippery shit you get on road bikes....
@e52115 жыл бұрын
Did you get that from super bike school video? Troy's demonstration is exaggerated. But if you every look at the butt cam on GP they stand up a little to flick over. Takes a fraction of a second, you ain't gonna be grabby grabby on the handle bars because you lost contact for a second and feel unstable. Especially when you instigated it. Also newton's law for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. But force your thy against the tank to flick you over, you essentially flick the tank in the opposite direction. (at a much higher centre of gravity area) doing it with your feet, yes you are still moving weight across but the place of application is lower (on pegs) so more stable. finally the gracilis muscle used to close your legs are tiny in comparison to the muscles to stand up and over a lap. constantly closing your legs to shift your weight will be Far more tiring. Try it yourself. Sit on your bike and flick yourself left to right by sliding technique. Your legs get tired real fast.
@jojo-xf4pd7 жыл бұрын
dommage en anglais
@MoodSwingZX5 жыл бұрын
Bigest muscle is Glutinus maximus ant it is an ass muscle xD. Thanks for the tisp ;).
@kelliebrooks90942 жыл бұрын
Hey i think everyone should go to riding school who buys a new production race bike...when i started racing i got a little help frim friends an some one gave me keith codes book which pribably saved my life....
@Master-di4di7 жыл бұрын
Sound system effing slack.
@jerryshanks37354 жыл бұрын
05:12 10:52 12:00
@bimmerben76865 жыл бұрын
Did this guy just tell me to ride the bike with my heels on the pegs?? I’ve always heard you need to ride on the balls of your feet???
@999Rabs4 жыл бұрын
Yep, he sure did, and he'd know having won 2 x WSBK championships :-) If you look at the foot position of most MotoGP and WSBK riders they position their feet the same way. There's a KZbin Video of Jack Miller talking about foot position and it's identical to what Troy teachers here.
@Spartanshaq7773 жыл бұрын
man...ive had it all wrong.......
@AGRIV8TD19632 ай бұрын
Can't hear! Bad audio! And closed captioning can't keep up.
@justdee22167 жыл бұрын
shutafakap when he is talking....can hear a thing
@xpnsvhbt014 жыл бұрын
Couldn't hear him
@droceretik4 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the full video?
@3star2nr6 жыл бұрын
He's not wearing a helmet or gloves SQUUUIIIDDDD FUCKING ATGATT!!!!
@chrisdadigger10189 ай бұрын
Horrible audio. All you hear is echoes
@GeorgeTsiros5 жыл бұрын
what a ripoff, the guy isn't actually riding, the bike's engine isn't running... he doesn't even know how to stand upright on the bike, you can clearly see the bike is held upright with these things on the front AND back, DON'T YOU ALL SEE IT?