DC Villains That Deserve "The Penguin Treatment"

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[@MaybeMania]

why so serious

[@marcusyates3044]

I wanna see Poison Ivy in the DCU!

[@PancakeCosmos]

@@MaybeMania heur heur heur ha hahahahah ehur

[@PancakeCosmos]

@@marcusyates3044 same she would definetly work well with the fantastical approach that james gunn seems to be leaning towards also (spoilers for the Penguin) poison ivy and scarecrow could work really well in mat reeves universe with the introduction of bliss and how it seems to bring a feeling of euphoria and possibly fear (vic getting flashbacks to the flood). especially with how sofia falcone was introduced to it in arkham I feel it could work very well.

[@suto5704]

47% is a weird number

[@Horltum]

Ok so hear me out: The Eraser. I'm not even kidding. Just an entire show of those Mike Ehrmantraut scenes with The Eraser methodically cleaning up crime scenes.

[@ulyssesveracruz8343]

@@Horltum imagine if they give him the animal man treatment and go breaking the fourth wall

[@ToonGrin]

I don't get why Eraser hasn't gotten over as a Batman rogue.

[@rue4073]

GCPD show and the Eraser is a bad cop that is covering crimes by cleaning them and wiping them off the books

[@VoiceActingDude24]

It would be peak

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

En ese caso una serie de condiment king primero

[@alphonsjose177]

Doesn’t know if he “deserves” it or anything but a Lobo TV show would be great. Just watching the main man go all across the universe killing every type of alien and just basically being cool as shit.

[@Alehigh4L]

That would be too cool for our eyes….

[@PancakeCosmos]

best fucking take in all of history.

[@EpicRandomness555]

That sounds fun. Lobo’s always fun

[@milkiassamuel780]

What sucks is that we were actually meant to get a Lobo R rated animated tv series back when WB were throwing any ideas at the wall and yet made no sense DCEU continuity-wise. There are some animation images that look SICK ASF and although the project never happened I really hope James Gunn green lights the project again and set it in the DCU since there are a lot of rumors that Jason Momoa will be playing Lobo in the DCU and I really hope he does because he'd truly be perfect to play the role in live action and even hopefully voice the character in animation

[@COOLERthenU]

Cast: JASON MAMOA Soundtrack: ROB ZOMBIE

[@vluser0746]

Scarecrow is still waiting for his definitive version 🎃

[@mfrebel7831]

Absolutely, he's too good and has not veen giving a proper chance, not in games or movies

[@MurtazaShah-e6g]

TRUE

[@albertoalfredo1564]

What would a scarecrow tv show be about? I can see a horror movie on him with the main character being a normal person or a gcpd agent, he is one of the most interesting batman villains but i don't know how would he carry a tv show of his own or a movie if he was the main character

[@Idontpaytaxeslol]

Cillian Murthy was pretty good as scarecrow in Batman begins idk about definitive

[@mfrebel7831]

@@albertoalfredo1564 A psichologisct obsessed with fear could make a great TV show were each episode its about a different victim/pacient with a different trauma and slowly the doctor starts getting more and more obsses with them, idk ithink it could work

[@alexlogan9604]

A Two-Face show as a sorta of dark version of Daredevil’s lawyer bits would be awesome. Throw in some bits showing that Harvey’s always been kind of unstable as the show goes on and maybe tie Sofia into how he becomes Two-Face and you’ve got a great show in the making.

[@nicholasdeporto5257]

COOK🔥🔥🤌🏼🤌🏼

[@francescozenocchini4428]

I was thinking something on the lines of Better Call Saul. Maybe we get Harvey introduced in The Batman Part 2 as an old friend of Bruce who beceame the district attorney of Gotham and in this show we explore his darker side showing that despite beign shown as a good man (no pun indeed) he has a darker side that lead him doing terrible things that a side of him kinda likes. This leads then to the finale where he gets the acid thrown on his face and later goes facing the boss that give this to him and becoming Two-Face setting him up for The Batman Part 3.

[@PancakeCosmos]

bros actually cooking?

[@PancakeCosmos]

@@francescozenocchini4428 i think mat reeves batman should be at least 6 movies long and stretch out harvey, having him becoming two-face in the fourth movie so we can have harveys character stretched up and looking at the events that cause him to become two-face

[@nairrdlairrd]

@@PancakeCosmosas much as I agree, I think Matt Reeves has said they’re only planning a trilogy

[@PancakeCosmos]

4:12 smh the hate for all star batman and robin is so undeserved. i personally LOVE my batman eating rats, kidnapping children, calling kids slurs and being abusive

[@user-rbyee]

😭😭🙏🏾

[@guccifer764]

And who can forget Wonder Woman, paragon of love, calling men “sperm bank”?

[@gazem_3211]

"Relax Lucius, it's just a word, your people say it all the time"

[@gazem_3211]

@PancakeCosmos So are you telling me we basically got Batman: Lotus x100?

[@aregularhorrorfan4184]

He does all of that? Dam

[@themoviemagics3695]

There better NOT be a season 2 of the penguin. Leave it as a one and done.

[@nont18411]

His arc is already completed. Having the second season will ruin it.

[@ulyssesveracruz8343]

@@themoviemagics3695 to bad because there saying that theyre talking about a second season

[@Eamonshort1]

It shows up on the Foxtel ap i use d to watch it, has it listed as a mini-series, i really hope kt stays that way.

[@DialloMoore503]

I agree.

[@kendi5391]

Give Killer Moth a show!

[@Kalel2.0]

A Rogues heist like show would be absolutely awesome to see especially with their code being explored of No drugs,No killing a Speedster due to not wanting to get on the Leagues bad side and the fact they respect him and No killing Women and Children and showing how they deal with the Flash from their perspective and for all the things the Flash show got horribly wrong they nailed the casting particularly Captain Colds,Heatwaves,Weather Wizard and The Tricksters(Jesse and Axel)

[@ltrain7715]

I would love this immensely the rouges are so underrated

[@cole6843]

I love the rogues!

[@LegendsLiterature]

Mark Hamill as the Trickster was great

[@nicholasdeporto5257]

I unironically want a heist action show based on The Rogues

[@huntertezz]

Rogues show would be great. And a speedster as an antagonist, Also suprising Flash show didn't have Boomerang and Mirror Master join the Rogues

[@thomasoconnor8279]

the second you said "Lex" I was hoping you would make the joke we are all thinking and I was not disappointed

[@crackpotcarter]

The ventriloquist section made me have an awesome idea, an anthology arkham show, in which each episode is a different character with a smaller role so they can fit in one episode, and showcasing their story and their experience in the tragedy that is arkham.

[@kazukiifn7417]

That would be awesome kind of gives me vibes of when they see us if you Haven’t seen it it’s one of the best historical crime dramas I’ve ever watched

[@ToonGrin]

Like the Dan Slott miniseries.

[@GoodWitchKirby]

YES!

[@nicholassgobero]

Let me Cook, have a first season where each character is being interviewed by Harleen Quinzel, their story and how they ended up in Arkham being all set in a flashback having some scenes of Harleen talking to them in between, asking them some normal therapist stuff, then in the Last episode she interviews the Joker, this time it's different, as he tells some sad backstory the scenes where Harleen is doing her job show her slowly falling in love with him throughout the episode, ending the season with a flashforward of her as a fully realized Harley Quinn behind bar on a cell. Then the second season starts, and this time the "therapist" is Hugo Strange, he is very different, he never tries to empathize with anyone, he's trying to see what makes them tick for some messed up experiment he's conducting, having this season focus on the more monstrous villains like Killer Croc and Manbat would be ideal, have it be clear that Hugo is Just as crazy as any inmate, and the season ends with him starting his plan as Batman comes up to stop him

[@expanddongerydoo34]

Honestly, Sinestro would make a good show as you see him grow disillusioned with the Guardians and Green Lanterns

[@gossamergossamer1930]

someone is cooking here

[@milkiassamuel780]

Sinestro has always been one of my personal favourite comic book villains as I think hes a very interesting and complex villain and I love his motivations as someone so obsessed with making the universe is safe that after he found out about the Guardians lies and corruption, he sees how gullible he was believing will power is enough to discipline criminals and keep them in line to prevent more chaos so he allowed himself to be so consumed by fear, he embraced it and now channels other people's fear to create a better and stronger regime/corp than the Green Lanterns could ever be, but sadly he was blinded by his own frustration and pride. I also really love his dynamic and former friendship with Hal Jordan as the two of them are so intrinsically tied together as both former friends turned enemies. They may be different people, but they both share a distaste for following corrupt authorities and that helps make rivalry feel more personal as they share similar ideals but don't see eye to eye about what it means to truly overcome fear. I swear Sinestro has the potential to be written with a complex Anakin turned Darth Vader villain downfall, or similar to D-16 turned Megatron downfall when it comes to the casual fans out there. Given the direction of the DCU Lanterns showing focusing on an older Hal Jordan teaming up with a younger John Stewart, it makes me worried they wont focus on Sinestro as a complex villain he could be, and I swear if they do something dumb like trying to force John Stewart and Sinestro's as arch enemies than Im done! Something like that would just take away everything that made Sinestro a perfect villain for Hal and what makes their rivalry very personal and neglects their history, and as much as I love John Stewart and yes him and Sinestro have faced off in the comics, but its not as interesting or compelling as his hatred for Hal Jordan since they were partners and have a level of respect for one another

[@TheFrenchPineapple]

"I don't like the idea of Harvey Dent just snapping and doing a 180, I like it when we see all the events that slowly build up and how they affect his mental health that lead up to becoming two face" Me who's finished playing Arkham Shadows: 👀

[@heitoroliveira5166]

What i find so cool about this take is that actors would probably love to do it too. I saw other day Sebastian Stan talking about he read a lot of comics and wanted to display the process of Bucky getting his mind fracturated every time he was activated as winter solider, but Marvel never did that. That interview showed me that actors respect comicbooks and they will do justice to the characters if the movie/show give them the material.

[@s-wo8781]

You do get that in The Long Halloween and The Animated Series.

[@leithaziz2716]

It's the best Dent story told in a while.

[@sullivandmitry1416]

Things I would be interested in seeing: - A psychological reverse daredevil show about Two-Face becoming a criminal mastermind - biological terrorist Poison Ivy - Skinwalker serial killer clay face

[@Thisaintjay97]

That president joke was so perfect it was literally prewritten for you years in advance

[@Marvellite]

I think it's time to accept reality bud

[@Doomsdayexe]

@@Marvellite Oh, I see, it's not the politics that you're worried about - it's the fact someone had the audacity to even consider light criticism of your great leader. Makes a lot of sense.

[@cadennichols351]

@@Doomsdayexe how is calling him a narcissistic-maniac-felon a light criticism???

[@Doomsdayexe]

@@cadennichols351 Considering he is objectively a convicted felon, and does display manic & narcissistic tendencies, I’d go as far to say that its a very fair comment. If you have a problem with him being those things, and take it as a slight, then you’d have to wonder why you’re here defending him.

[@VaultDwellerOG]

@@Marvellite orange man bad

[@yash_kapoor]

Surprised you didn’t mention the Batman villain that really needs his own HBO series: Bookworm

[@mfrebel7831]

He deserves amovie trilogy come on

[@JAMTC10]

​@@mfrebel7831Nah, give him his own cinematic universe, if any character deserves one it's them

[@s-wo8781]

Who?

[@MortalWombat047]

I would love a Bane show of his time starting out in santa prisca and how as a child he learned to survive in the worst place possible. Then have the Venom come in and have the horror elements of the patients screams going through the prison at night. And finally have Bane survive the procedure and have him break his way out and eventually come to Gotham.

[@jadenbryant9283]

maybe you make it a better version of the venom movies lol[still love them]

[@PancakeCosmos]

could work but i feel like it would need to be not a miniseries but a series.

[@rundystudios8433]

I genuinely think that a The Question Detective show with Two Face as the villain where they really go in-depth with each character. With a huge emphasis facades and being “Two Faced” would be a awesome concept between the characters.

[@Lemonsss-n5o]

Idea for Harvey Dent: show him in the movie, keep him Harvey through the whole movie, and then in the middle of his spin off show he gets turned into Two Face, first half of the series building up to this and the second half being him building up to a legitimate threat and villain for the third movie

[@nairrdlairrd]

I like this idea, but I feel like maybe they wouldn’t make his turn happen between movies at risk of confusing casual audiences. I definitely agree that he needs to be introduced as Harvey in the second movie and saved as a villain for the third movie.

[@kendi5391]

Also give him a double colored suit. Lately he doesn't have them but they're awesome.

[@faze_tardgard3517]

i like your take: "based on a comic book is not a genre....genres can be applied to comic book properties" i want to see this utilized more in the mcu and dcu. i think it's about time different comic book movies got different treatment instead of just following the same general formula. penguin as a crime series, man-bat as a horror series, two-face as a legal drama. there's so much potential in that concept.

[@heitoroliveira5166]

After watching Superman & Lois it's became my dream to have a Spider-man show, soap opera Style, but with really great writting, about Peter navegating life with all his obligations as spiderman , worker and also his friends and family bonds, There's so much drama on Spiderman comics that i feel like it begs for a tv show. My main pick would be the Harry's drug problem, the relationship with gwen and black Cat and we can carry on until he marry MJ, become a teacher, and end in a final season with Kraven's Last Hunt. Like, 7 seasons or so. I my head would be awesome.

[@leithaziz2716]

I see "comic book is not a genre" just like "Manga is not a genre" Like, duh. Of course not.

[@Macapta]

Here's my pitch for a modern inclusion of The Joker. He's just an odd yet popular stand up comedian who exists in the background of whatever greater plot is taking place, but the kicker is that his jokes contain information that he simply should not be able to possess. Bordering on breaking the 4th wall with how well informed this man seems to be. Sometimes it's obvious and sometimes it's veiled behind a metaphor or anecdote in this stand up routine. He will keep threatening to become a major antagonist, being weirdly sinister. But that's his ultimate joke, a joke on the audience themselves who have pre-conceived notions on what this character has to be. He never does anything actually evil and you never find out how he knows what he knows.

[@PancakeCosmos]

cool ideabut idk if that should be used i agree with the statement that jokers overused in media but he's also not used well (especially in movies) jared letos was bad (don't think that this is a hot take joaquin phoenixs was a good original take on him but I personally didn't like him jack nicklisions was also alright heath ledgers was deadass phenomenal in media ofc he's overused but he's not used WELL if you're making a large piece of batman media that's not elseworlds either make joker a villain or just don't include him at all.

[@itstim3203]

10:15 it's still crazy that we used to think something like that was impossible. The comic writers were really on to something there

[@alexrodriguez6390]

November 5st: they already had Christmas decorations, he always hated how quick they went from one thing to the next ignoring anything that came before like trash. Alas art imitates life. He opens his lab, a series of doors open, one passcode after the other each more ridiculous and specific then the last, ending with one final question what do you fear the most, there was only one answer, one thing stopping him from reaching his true potential, b a t. The final door opens showing a lab, at a glance it some would say it's completely normal but with a closer look, all around are canisters of gasses and bats in glass cages, decorations for the Christmas season but something is wrong. The decorations seem like they are leaking. He grabs his lab coat and also a gas mask, they're so dirty and worn that they've turned brown. But hes much too busy to get new ones. Walking to the end of the lab in a corner so darkly lit you would have to know it's there to find it, is a man tied to a stretcher, there a machine breathing something into him as the doctor takes out a orange syringe and injects him with it. He begins to shake violently as we go back to the desk and see a name plate that is cracking: Jonathan cranes. Fear of the bat. I thought that this would be a good Matt Reeves movie where it's Christmas and Jonathan cranes obsessed with over coming his fears wants to study the bat, I was thinking like the Batman 1 there would be like a secondary villain, either a clayface who is an actor that scarecrow kidnapped and accidentally turned into a monster with his experiments which could make him more sympathetic and potentially a part of the bat family, are a bane that is just a street level thug before being given an enhanced thumb of venom by Jonathan Crane. His ultimate plan I think would have him spreading gas through the copious amounts of decorations spread throughout Gotham. I want him to have more than just a few guests so I imagine him with a very large arsenal of gases and toxins one he might use on himself at the end to transform into something that looks like the Injustice 2 scarecrow.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Fun fact, there have never been any cases of Disassociative Identity Disorder studied where the traumatic incident happened in adulthood. Since this is the super grounded The Batman universe, I would like to see a Harvey Dent that either had childhood trauma or (better yet) had a great childhood and it's the corruption of Gotham's legal system that gradually makes him lose his mind. But his darker alter ego is just him. He becomes Two Face BEFORE he gets scarred by Oz (since Maroni is dead).

[@PancakeCosmos]

(i dont read a lot of comics so please correct me if I'm wrong) but isn't his DID and insanity usually caused/worsened by the corruption in gotham city? in some stories he does have a shitty family which starts off his trauma which is only worsened by the corruption in the city.

[@nairrdlairrd]

Yeah there’s comic precedent for this, I don’t read comics but I’ve done a lot of research into storylines and I know there’s a run where Harvey was abused by his dad as a kid and that’s where his DID first developed (and also there’s the really cool detail of him getting his coin motif from that being how his dead would decide whether or not to beat him)

[@dariusporter358]

A Vandel Savage show about how he became the man he is today and all the messed up stuff he did throughout his long life would go so hard. He’s lived for so long that you could have multiple seasons throughout different time periods. Imagine the season where he’s Ganghis Kahn. I’d kill for a Vandel Savage show. I don’t know who would be the best actor to play him. If I had to pick one at the top of my head, I’d say Zach McGowan.

[@lamsaidthetrue2238]

When you said it like that you right vandel deserve a TV show he may the most underrated dc villain

[@gurshaandhesi]

I just want to mention something here, I’m pretty sure when they changed penguin’s name to ‘Oswald Cobb’ to make him more ‘grounded’ that didn’t necessarily mean realistic. This version of the penguin came from nothing while the comic counterpart is born into a family of wealth. Cobblepot is a name of high society and wouldn’t fit the penguin from the show.

[@enterchannelname973]

I think Scarecrow definitly needs to be adapted if not in a show then for sure in one of the movies. He's a villain with SUCH an amazing premise but a lose enough backstory to where you could make something incredible with it.

[@PancakeCosmos]

idk if this is even like a hot take but I personally think killer moth deserves a show or appearance in a movie. he's genuinely one of my favorite batman villains and in my opinion can blend the fantastical and more realistic side of batman pretty well. i love him so much I wish he could appear in anything as a major antagonist.

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Sería bueno en una serie animada

[@kendi5391]

Fellow Killer Moth fan!

[@Joosh531]

Killer Croc needs a show or something. So criminally underrated

[@TheGuyWhoEditz147]

make a movie with killer croc, king shark and grundy like a comedy movie

[@Joosh531]

@@TheGuyWhoEditz147 nah im thinking s horror with Strange, Clayface, Grundy, and Man-Bat

[@Paradoxx867]

Jonathan Crane, the Scarecrow, is definitely my pick. This character is genuinely intriguing and has not been done well in anything except the comic, “Kings of Fear.”

[@kendi5391]

This is the one where he gives Batman a therapy session right?

[@DareToEntertain]

I honestly love this video series man. And honestly, two face is the PERFECT guy I want for a TV show. As well as everything you said but I just find most times his story is too fast. Think the thing Pengiun benefits most from is just time. To sit with these characaters. Whereas most Comic stuff just kill off the villain in their first appearance.

[@themoviemagics3695]

How did you comment 9h ago?! 💀

[@WaterMeLoan64]

real

[@DareToEntertain]

@@themoviemagics3695 Magic. I have a specific set of skills

[@milkiassamuel780]

The Rogues absolutely deserve their own spin off series as they're my favourite villain team and I love their group dynamic and how interesting their moral code is and how that makes them such great characters and interesting team of villains against The Flash. Id love an action heist series or movie in an Ocean 11's style that shows the Rogues using their abilities with Captain Cold as team leader pulling off different heists stealing from top class supervillains or heroes as we get an understanding of their group dynamic and how much secretly care for each other as a team of villains/thieves. The best thing about the Penguin show is how they actually commit to making Penguin a villain and as irredeemable as possible. This will make Batman's beating of him feel all the more satisfying. You see, Sony, this is how you do a good villain-focused project

[@pauloarthur._]

The thing i love about DC, it has so many diverse minor villains, In marvel when u think of villain is Thanos, Loki, Ultron and those wolrd destroyers/conquerors, In DC we have those too but also bank robers, crime lords, ecoterrorrist, obsessive lovers, supernatural monsters and many other with diverse goals, marvel has those too, but i feel they are not treated well. I simply love characters like Count Vertigo, Silver Banshee, The Shade, Black Spider, Killer Frost, Mirror Master and etc.

[@ProjektTaku]

Lets be real here, DC has much better villains than Marvel. Lots of Marvel villlain's don't really have heroes that their tied to and often get redeemed, but meanwhile you have glorious reinventions of old villains like Zoom being created and doing some of the most vile crap ever.

[@pauloarthur._]

@ProjektTaku totally true, most DC heroes have full galeries of cool villains, while in marvel only the bigger ones have villains and its like 2 or 3 enemies

[@solen5529]

@@ProjektTakuWhat are you talking about name any marvel villain and they have a hero who’s rogues gallery they are apart of lmao and marvel villains don’t get “redeemed” idk where you’re getting this from and even if it is true you can say the same thing about dc villains 😂

[@nicholasdeporto5257]

SINESTRO, following his fall from Green Lantern member to founder of the Sinestro Corp. Starring Luke Evans as Sinestro

[@wizardpower7009]

I really want to see killer moth get a tv show that treats him not like a joke and goes into the reason why he dresses up like a moth to be the anti batman.

[@eon001]

Not a villain, but I think the Question would fit in perfectly in the grounded Reeves-verse.

[@DavidW.WardJR]

Yes, Harvey Dent should get a show. I thought Aaron Eckhardt was fine in The Dark Knight; I liked the viral marketing and I think he does a great job as Harvey Dent, but I didn't like that he becomes a villain so fast and it's stuffed into the last third of the movie. I want Harvey Dent to be introduced in The Batman 2 (after the other DA Gil Colson was killed in the first movie) and then get a court legal drama sow inbetween with him slowly being driven crazy in the show to have a slowburn origin story for why he becomes Two-Face. And there are rumors that might actually happen.😀😀

[@cjs_v.j.6350]

10:28 Yeah that would NEVER happen... that being said stay safe to all LGBT youths

[@RickRaptor105]

A Vandal Savage TV show exploring him grappling with his immortality as he watches love interests die and whole empires rise and fall. Every episode would be set in a different historical period, starting from his Stone Age origin in the first episode going all the way to the final episode being set in modern times (maybe even an encounter with Batman or some other superhero if it has to pay lip service to a cinematic universe, though I could see this stand on its own).

[@BIGG_BOI_M9]

A Mad Hatter show in The Batman Universe where he becomes a cult leader

[@Guy_who_likes-music]

An anthology series about different less popular Gotham villains

[@expertfilmliam]

Scarecrow, No need to watch the video, I want a Scarecrow centric film, show, storyline, he's my favourite Comic Book Villain, and I want to see him become an Icon like the Joker and now the Penguin. Anyways time to watch the rest of the video.

[@Sebboebbo]

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[@mrbushido56]

I want to see a horror film a real horror film based on scarcrow testing his drug on people, the protaganist is whats her name. The woman who becomes batwoman. Here she is a cop investigating john crane. It ends with batman getting involved and saving her inspiring her to be batwoman. I want dc to experiment try new things while slowly introducing the bat family. A horror film would allow us to see how terrorfing scarcrow is and how you dont want to meet him

[@craigharvey-gurr337]

I don’t know if this would be considered or get The Penguin treatment, but I would love a Ra’s Al Ghul tv series. I’d love for it to be centered on the league of assassins/shadows side of Batman, and see Ra’s life and rise to power becoming the demons head. Maybe that’s what the show should be called, The Demons Head. 🧐 But I can picture a Lex Luther tv series happening. And a Rogues tv series would be a lot of fun. I can picture it being like Dungeons And Dragons Honor Among Thieves mixed with Oceans 11 in a modern day superhero setting.

[@vis3861]

Scare crow Clay face Court of owls All need tv shows

[@Sccufed47]

I’d really like a series for mad hatter I feel like reeves could really reinvent this character to be more dark kinda kilo ke the Arkham games

[@Sccufed47]

My god I’m horrible at typing

[@httm241]

i want to see a long form drama with Vandal Savage as the main character. his life would be damn epic if brought to screen

[@commanderponds8308]

I would love to see a horror show with Scarecrow. He doesn’t get enough love

[@paltacomunista]

What about scarecrow?, I don’t remember where I read it, but someone said that Sofia’s psychiatrist was supposed to be Johnathan Crane

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

Sinestro. The Riddler.

[@MisterPrince01]

Two face for sure. I liked his portrayal in the Dark knight but I just wanna see more of the character. A show like the Penguin to flesh him out would be perfect.

[@WaterMeLoan64]

Condiment King TV Series when?

[@troyoboyo17]

Condiment king Oscar bait solo movie >>>>

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Si hacen una mezcla de Joker 1 y peacemaker será un hit

[@JS06-h5d]

Hear me out in The batman films we skip dick grayson and we the first robin is jason todd

[@RJRigs]

Scarecrow and Joker are probably the only other characters I’d be interesting in seeing for another series set in The Batman universe.

[@JCCyC]

I'm only two minutes into the video, but if the Ventriloquist isn't one of the suggestions I'm gonna beat you with a dried and salted codfish. Edit: YEAH!

[@matthewburgins5204]

i like how everyone universally went from loving Oz to praying he ends up in a coma

[@lilturk5549]

I need a Deadshot show set in the reeves verse

[@yoshim616]

That Rogues idea sounds pretty fun. I’ve thought the Rogues have been a lot of fun since I first saw that episode of JLU with the Flash museum.

[@marcusyates3044]

I wanna see Poison Ivy in the DCU!

[@ThatSmolivGal]

Killer Moth, entirely just because he's my favorite DC character/villain.

[@noah_body_cares]

I hope the rumor is true that Professor Pyg will be one of the villains in The Batman 2. He's such an underutilized villain, but he's one of the most disturbing

[@psi_mae]

One id love would be Lex Luthor, SPECIFICALLY Lex Luthor running for president Edit: Goddammit, you beat me to it

[@The_Phantasm]

I really love the Penguin series and how it reinforced that Penguin is not at all a misunderstood character. He's a vile monster. The only thing I would say didn't work for me is the character of Dr Julian Rush played by Theo Rossi. I didn't feel like the character was ultimately terribly necessary and often felt like he was there for the sake of being there. I just found him extremely uninteresting. Also I think this might be a me thing, but I personally was actually hoping that Sofia would actually die in the end. That's because I'm honestly extremely exhausted of the Falcone family constantly being adapted in Batman media as opposed to actual Batman characters. The Falcones were always in the comics just a generic crime family from the olden days of Gotham that were there to show Batman transition from fighting regular gangsters to actual supervillains and yet we keep revisiting them. To me they are just placeholders for the real villains.

[@nairrdlairrd]

Well I think the way you describe the Falcones from the comics is exactly how they’re going to use them going to forward. Every one of them but Sofia is dead, and Penguin is on top, showing that Batman is done with regular gangsters and onto supervillains. If Sofia comes back, it’ll be in a small role, but I honestly have no idea where it’ll be, especially after that Catwoman tease🤔

[@tomleonard830]

Between The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow, we go a lot of Heat Wave and Captain Cold, who are the heart of the Rogues. But I would love to see more of them.

[@superstarultra28]

I think we’ve had ENOUGH Two-Face for a while. He’s appeared in almost everything Batman related and he just was a central focus of Arkham Shadow and the Caped Crusader cartoon. Plus, I’m tired of seeing his face get mangled. We’ve seen his origin as many times as we’ve seen the Waynes gunned down.

[@cvltvre_]

I think there should be a Mr. Freeze type penguin treatment. Heart of Ice won so many emmys when it first released in BTAS, but imagine how beautifully tragic his story could be portrayed. One aspect of him that not a lot of people recognize is that Nora is what keeps him in check, she is his moral compass. Plus, Batman NEEDS to have compassion for not only the city, but its villains too. That's what makes Batman such a deeply complex character- that he cares about his villains(some comics even portray him donating money to Freeze to help cure Nora) and even though they do horrible things, he tries to understand their viewpoint.

[@gwina64]

I think it’s funny that in Gotham, every single character had a conversation with an evil version of themselves in their mind riddler, Gordon, Bruce, and the one character they didn’t do this with was two face 😂

[@Kevykev2007]

I hope Troy does a review for Arkham Shadow its amazing 4:48

[@SignedDiamond]

I think TwoFace could take a lot from Better Call Saul. Make him a character who was once a bad kid, committed crimes, hurt people but was changed by some traumatic life event to turn things around. We would cheer for him but when things get rough and he's pushed you see him slip into his old ways. Eventually those 2 parts of himself clash and he decides it's easier to just flip a coin to decide what path to choose

[@flintlockwood25]

A Two-Face TV show that is basically a lawyer show showing the slow descent into madness before becoming Two-Face in the last episode or maybe the last two would be great. I also think Edgar Wright would be a perfect fit for a heist show starring the Rogues.

[@UMIF001]

That emo looking rich guy is also an interesting character. I hope he get The Penguin treatment aswell aswell

[@PancakeCosmos]

10:20 careful dude you dont want some people in red hats knocking at your door. . . . .

[@mfrebel7831]

Italian plummers???

[@nibbler7687]

4 more years :)

[@PancakeCosmos]

@@nibbler7687 heres hoping america will get rid of him in 4 years . . . .

[@ashesGeek]

I know that he already appeared in "Gotham", but I'd love to have Hugo Strange spin-off. The thought of seeing the inner world of this dangerous mastermind is enough to give me goosebumps.

[@stopstaringatmewtf7651]

Being one of the only Silver Banshee stans, i've always wanted to see something that heavily focuses on her story. Originally I thought a show or limited series would be good, but I think something similar to The Continental's structure where it's like a 3-episode event with an hour each episode. While a very obscure pick to have focus, I think she's one of the DC Villains that are yet to have their potential realized fully, and i'd love to see her get some kind of justice

[@Dalton_stuff]

A brainiac solo movie or TV show going into his origins leading him becoming the monster he later becomes would be so cool.

[@GoodWitchKirby]

I would love to see an anthology series featuring all of these villains and more. Some Examples of villains that could star in an episode could include: Brainiac collecting a world, told from the point of view of some random alien family trying to survive the chaos. Something Wonder Woman related (I know nothing about her rouges gallery). Snowflame, the cocaine-powered drug lord, going on a bad trip or fighting a drug war against Bane.

[@louis_iz_me5811]

Oh my god a rogues show sounds like literally the most perfect thing i could wish for from a dc show rn - If they went down the heist route, id love to see each episode based around a different character all building towards a final heist ep. Each characters episode would focus on their backstory and how they got to where they are through flashbacks, including flashbacks detailing how the team was established however broke up due to some great failure (that could later be revealed to be the fault of captain cold, causing distrust right as the team reforms later in the show) - at the end of each episode Captain Cold could appear and recruit that character to the reformation of the team for a big heist on somewhere like gorilla city. For example a episode count could look something like: Ep 1 - Captain Cold (could centre around a depressed leonard snart found doing nothing with his life after the team disbanded - he could see a poster [or smthn idk im not a writer] for gorllia city and think of the idea for the heist) Ep 2 - Heatwave (focus on backstory and past ending of team etc until cold recruits them at end) Ep 3 - Weather Wizard (focus on backstory and past ending of team etc until cold recruits them at end) Ep 4 - Mirror Master (focus on backstory and past ending of team etc until cold recruits them at end) Ep 5 - Golden Glider (focus on backstory and past ending of team etc until cold recruits them at end) *Ep ? - if necessary another character such as trickster, rainbow raider, or abra kadabra* Ep 6 - Gorrilla City (in a B story, have the team be formed, possibly on their way to gorilla city, heist planning, getting back into working together and arguing, talking more about why they initially broke up and the groups understanding of it [only to be disproven later with captain cold revealing it was his fault] - whilst this is happening have an A story focusing on the city backstory, its residents,m and leader such as gorilla grodd {or another psychic ape) that will ultimately serve as the twist villain for the show) Ep 7 - The Heist - (here everything can come full circle - show the heist initially going well until they reach the goal only to be jumped and surrounded by Grodd and his soldiers - Grodd will explain how he actually implanted the idea for the heist into Snarts mind during the first episode [context - im writing this at 1:30 am off the top of my head so no i haven't thought of an actual motivation for grodd to do this] through some other events [again, idk im not a writer] snart can reveal his secret that the groups initial disbanding was his fault and this can cause issues for a while but he is eventually, begrudgingly, forgiven just in time [last time, I'm not a writer] the group can defeat grodd but not kill him ig so he is saved for later flash things and then flee back to central city, back fully as a team) episode 7 can end with the group pulling up to a bank in a car to excited, upbeat music, entirely ready to rob and dash, but right as they walk in and snart begins to shout 'freeze' (no pun intended) a woosh sound can be heard as the music ends and they all look down to see they are handcuffed, then look up to see the flash standing there, smiling. *Absolute Cinema*

[@neverleft7494]

I think the Batman wasn’t mentioned as much because it’s still his first year as Batman , I think the secound movie will really show drug dealers, thugs etc genuinely being scared of Batman’s presence to the point they have counter measures for him

[@Troy-gu5vu]

ever since man of Steel was announced to be part of a DC cinematic universe I've said the thing that they need to do to set themselves apart from and out do MCU was villain centered movies/TV shows. now obviously a lot has changed since then but still, the penguin proves my point perfectly, give context to the villain so that you don't have to waste so much time in say a batman movie expositing the villain for half the run time while also cramming in enough to tell the story about the confrontation and the hero, removing the need to cram in cliff notes of a rich deep backatory and indeed give the audience a full idea of who the villain is and why the hero should care to fight has always just made so much sense to me and I'm glad some form of that is starting to happen, and now I hope James gunn will bring this quality to the dcu

[@boarragnarok6798]

I'd like a Killer Croc show but because he's my favourite character. Something that follows the more modern Killer Croc, where he's only doing crimes because nobody will hire him and we see his evolution from a guy who looks weird into an actual monster.

[@puzzledhypnoshroom1004]

Idk bro but a two face tv show would be incredible. Him and scarecrow as well.

[@s-wo8781]

In the BTAS and in the Long Halloween movie they did show that Harvey was already having mental health issues before he got burned.

[@yobud6637]

I really like how Telltale's Batman game portrayed Two Face, I really wish there were more of him in different media

[@deansartorel7260]

Ok, Poison Ivy show but in the style of something like First Reformed in its story and character arc

[@DrTreFilms]

A Killer Moth television series would solve all of life’s problems

[@MarcusSmith-b7b]

Scarecrow would be good

[@TheCoolbulldog]

I think a show about calendar man set in the reeves universe would be great. Each episode would be different holidays and how he orchestrates these killings, sometimes with the help of other rogues like killer croc, hush, riddler, joker, Black mask, or even crooked GCPD members. It would be a good chance to see the crazier villainous side of Gotham as opposed to just the organized crime like in the penguin. Get to build out the world and make Gotham really feel hopeless sometimes. Each episode could have their own story or even have an overarching story about trying to kill Batman on some special day, with commissioner Gordon, or another cop solving the case instead, showing that corruption is starting to slow down in Gotham.

[@society7394]

13:50 NO, GIVE MORE FLASH! AND MAKE IT ACTUALLY GOOD!

[@mrfurly-id7sx]

i think an arkham show using multiple villians would be amazing. the scarecrow, harley quinn, as therapists.poisonivy, the vantrilaquist, victor zsasz, pr pyg, calender man and even black manta could all be patients. could use flash backs to flesh out the charecters

[@Eamonshort1]

Poison Ivy is already great in the animated Harley Quin show. Admittedly, shes a secondary character and not the main focous, but she is great. But i agree with you, it's something I've not thought about much but jard leaning into body-horror with her is a fantastic idea

[@appl3s0ft]

“Based on a comic book is not a genre” Perhaps why I love Logan and The Batman so much. They’re movies with their own genres that fit with the comics they’re based on - Western and Noir specifically. Their genre isn’t defined by being “based off of a comic”. And it’s because of this that they stick out when compared to other superhero movies

[@nickasaro8789]

I love your idea for a Two Face show. I’ve always said if they do Two-Face again, they should take a page from Batman The Animated series where Two-Face was a pre-existing alternate personality inside of Harvey long before his scarring and I think a mini-series showcasing that with flashbacks that maybe culminate with him getting scarred would be an excellent idea.

[@cdpdoodler]

I cant blame you for not wanting to talk about Gotham (the TV show), but tbh I'm SHOCKED the topic didnt come up. I havent seen The Penguin yet but Gotham's premise also allowed them to follow a character's rise to power over the course of a show and not just one movie.

[@TreySarver]

I think Oz will start calling himself Cobblepot when he runs for mayor

[@Alex_From_Florida]

Ironically, I can see a way for “the penguin treatment” to happen to a bunch of Batman villains either in the Matt Reeves universe or James Gunn’s DCU if they have them all in an anthology show where season goes in depth of one or more villains, with an overarching narrative being an optional choice depending on the character or the writer. I could see a few working titles such as “Patients of Arkham” or “DC Rogues Gallery: (supervillain name)”

[@joelsilva699]

One of the things I wished you had gone more in depth with is how to do a comic book VILLAIN movie or tv show right, going over things like Venom, Black Adam, Morbius, and even Joker, discussing where The Penguin succeeds where the others failed and how the show does what Joker accomplished but better as a villain movie. It makes the villain hate-able. And to me, that’s how you do a villain adaptation.

[@harrow9389]

Well, I've always been a fan of Hugo Strange since I devoured Arkham City. I watched the animated episodes with him in it, picked up the comic books, and am just a general fan. I can totally see an Arkham TV show with him as the main character. See how he uses his status as a psychologist to torture these villans in terms of "helping them."

[@Wordsmith012]

Honestly, a “The Rogue’s” Ocean’s-Eleven-Styled movie sounds so fun. With all their different abilities and personalities and having the Flash be the one they need pull a fast one (would you believe me if I said I wrote that organically and only noticed the pun after?) on would be a great project to say the least. 😁

[@christopherp.8868]

Two face is one of my favorite characters of all time. He needs proper Penguin respect. A deep dive into his mental health. Similar to Sophia's treatment in the series...The concept of having a breaking point when the entire world is against you. A beautiful set up for a character who deserves some redemption. I mean Penguin is on par with Joker respect at this point...I don't want to see Harvey being secondary to the Joker (Dark Knight) again. I always had this vision of Harvey being this Clint Eastwood Man With No Name character and Oz being Tuco...and together they have this temporary team up. But Harvey sees right through Oz and uses that to his advantage.

[@altothesting]

I got a idea. The Calendar Man. Like, imagine a series where it’s a crime thriller with Julian Day as the central antagonist