Fanboy Prewrites "Spider-Man: No Way Home"

[@troyoboyo17]

I’m gonna Scooby Doo this crap…

[@On1yGreen]

Ruh roh

[@altothesting]

Zoinks

[@master0fthearts894]

Not if I can get away with it before you meddling kids-and your dumb dog-can stop me!

[@smiley3047]

Jinkies

[@epicman8891]

Ruh Roh Raggy

[@aarong9414]

You talked about how Sam raimi is the only person you trust with his characters and I think it’s confirmed him and Marc Webb helped work on the scenes involving Tobey and Andrew which is great

[@hariscelik4050]

Who confirmed it

[@littleredruri]

@@hariscelik4050 feige i think

[@littleredruri]

@@hariscelik4050 wait no fuck he hasn't even admitted they're in the movie

[@hariscelik4050]

@@littleredruri yeah bouta say lmao

[@nabithdg]

@@littleredruri Feige confirmed that they will be helping with their characters Aka the villains. So maybe it includes their respective spideys

[@sammcbride4305]

Really good prewrite, yet for some reason I have a lot of faith NWH's going to be good. The only real way I can see them ruining it is if he ends with his identity not being a secret. Apparently Raimi and Webb were brought in as consultants on Tobey and Andrew's roles in the movie

[@IcyDiamond]

Wait really? If so that’s great! They know those versions of Spidey in and out

[@nathanhills336]

Same thoughts as you my man!

[@antoniovasquez9946]

They should’ve had Raimi shoot some scenes in the Tobey universe, like how’s he’s been living before he crosses the portal.

[@rateyes1914]

I’m sure you are very happy with what NWH was then

[@sammcbride4305]

@@rateyes1914 I cried from May's death until the credits and I've never cried in a cinema before

[@marka.t.s.8344]

I honestly think bringing Miles or Gwen as Spider-People would diminish the value of having a Peter centric story. Of course the true potential and message you thought about are great, but I feel it just works so much better for the animated Universe, one that undoubtedly has less of an impact on the masses than the live action incarnations. I do think that it's kind of a cheap move to do all of this fanservice, mainly because it makes it seem like both Sony and Marvel Know they just can't get people to watch their movie and make my entire lineage savings in a single weekend only with Tom or the rest of the MCU movies cast, but if they absolutely have to do it then I'll receive Andrew and Tobey with open arms.

[@thusharanup4906]

I agree, we have so many spider people in the new spider verse sequel so I’d be happy if this is just a Peter centric one

[@ksnjdiss7566]

I think they should put a cameo of Gwen and/or Miles

[@IcyDiamond]

I feel you can have it both ways, have a post credits scene where Miguel O’Hara recruits Tom’s Peter for Across The Spider-Verse, but just have the main movie be Tobey, Andrew, and Tom

[@jessicaramirez7611]

I genuinely felt emotional during the “scene” you made with Tobey being uncle ben.

[@vyron-topic9592]

why in quotation marks

[@prometheus1489]

fr I almost teared up

[@sofiyanali2489]

Chopping onions whilst watching that scene is not a good idea.

[@bapattack5706]

He just drops that gem on us and sips his Baja blast.

[@joelmartinez-ortega347]

What I wanna know is what score did he use it sounds good, where can I listen too it?

[@andybilyak]

Saw this pop up in my feed again, and it's INSANE how much he got right with this video

[@SpiderSamYT]

Troyoboyo, buddy, I live for these rewrites and prewrites. Can't wait to see this video and the extra good news is we might be getting two No Way Home related videos, or maybe more than two. The main ones being the prewrite and the other one being the rewrite (if maybe you think you can make the movie better by adjusting some things just like the Homecoming and FFH rewrites.) But yeah I look forward to this *pre*write because I know it's about to be dope!! Edit: Omg that concept art board with Tobey being Ben was sooo good!! This prewrite lived up to my expectations and then some because I wasnt expecting those wild cards to be so random so I laughed really hard. Oh and, those people that get butthurt about a opinion are children. The reason why I stuck with your channel IS because your rewrites and prewrites. They help me understand the character of Spider-Man better and because those videos, well, they give me inspiration. Because all of that info, is coming from a person that cares for the source material, and I respect it 👏👏

[@nathanhills336]

In all honesty, I hope we don’t get a rewrite

[@Brick_Mark]

YO spidersam!!!

[@SpiderSamYT]

@@Brick_Mark yoo 👋. I'm surprised somebody recognized me in a comment section lol

[@anirudhjain2462]

Hey Spider- Sam, love your stop motions

[@Brick_Mark]

@@SpiderSamYT 😂

[@Apollow13]

I love how the free space in bingo was wrong

[@aaronstevens5325]

it wasn’t though…

[@slimjesus9872]

Bringing in miles and Gwen would be possibly the worst thing to do. Why bring in these two characters with no backstory when there’s two perfectly good spiderman than already exist in live action that we have context for.

[@danfoxdude]

That was where he lost me too but I liked the Uncle Ben stuff

[@infiniteapex8762]

Ya, that was a really stupid decision, and glad he didn't touch the movie, because he would've ruined it.

[@megaavonaco9954]

@Maxy_is_a_qt I kindly disagree with your disagreement. Having the other Peter Parkers are examples for our Peter Parker to see and learn from. Having miles and Gwen would raise more questions about their backstories

[@worldsdarkest]

EXACTLY, i hate how so many people imagined Miles coming into No Way Home as if he’s the same as the other 2 Spider-Men, he’s not a Peter Parker, he’s literally an entirely different Spider-Man, bring Miles in is like bringing Peni Parker into the movie 🤣

[@Mr-Internet]

I disagree as bringing in Miles and Gwen would be a great way to start their own films so they’re in the MCU

[@BrickMania2]

Worth mentioning that Uncle Ben did not play nearly as large a role in the comics as he did in the Raimi movies and future movies, at least prior to those movies coming out. Peter figured out, on his own, that with great power comes great responsibility, after Ben died. Obviously Ben's role in the Raimi trilogy had an impact, since it was then integrated somewhat into the comics, but I think it's important to recognize, especially since it seems like parts of the MCU Spidey are leaning into the Lee Ditko era of Spidey (the black suit is a pretty big indicator).

[@guymanperson6419]

"I don't think aunt may should die" oh come on

[@Ra3_ar1adnE]

We all know Willem Dafoe is gonna say “First we attack his heart” in the movie.

[@calebray1834]

Have him say this To the other villains

[@thespectaculargamernerd8114]

He better lol.

[@crafterboi7774]

Also I feel like they hinted at his "so choose" line in the trailer

[@angelicaespitia7707]

_"OUT AM I?"_ _"DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!"_ _"Back to formula..."_

[@akkiopgaming602]

Frelixxx don't continue reading without watching the movie it's a small spoiler He said the dialogue again

[@passarovoador6662]

I Just need one thing to like this movie, that he DOESN'T END THE MOVIE WITH THE IDENTITY REVEALED And a mention of Uncle Ben would be good

[@taistelulaama9159]

apparently him and Tobey will have a talk of uncle ben

[@9.b_javaspradiparamadhani382]

why tho his identity still being revealed would be cool

[@jalontillmon2807]

@@9.b_javaspradiparamadhani382 no

[@passarovoador6662]

@@9.b_javaspradiparamadhani382 Spider-Man is a relatable character And most people can always look up to him, i'm a bit shy and introverted so i always loved Tobey's Peter I Just can't relate to Tom's Peter, and if he is famous? It would be impossible

[@feduwtc]

I need a talk that reminds the Civil War scene when peter say the line that he said in a dialogue with Andrew and Tobey Peter is at his low, and he's afraid that the things he's done at that point will hurt more people and then tobey would say that he learned something with his mistakes since the first, when he let a thief run away, the same one took "uncle ben" they say together, and then Peter would say the phrase and tobey complete it saying "With great power, comes great responsability" This would make Peter stand up and finally accept totally the thing he's tried to let in the past, even thought he couldnt: the death of his uncle

[@danyms4082]

Peter hiding his identity is kind of the only thing that can save the character in my opinion. It means he goes back to square zero before he goes to college, friend and aunt doesn't know he's Spiderman, probably not dating MJ anymore, no connection to the avengers so he loses all his tech. It allows him to be that working class hero who's just getting by. Edit: I'm a prophet

[@lucasaranagy5767]

Yes!!! They need to do that.

[@kennedylareign]

yes! that would be amazing i am really hoping thats the direction they go in.

[@thomasjohnson1885]

Then it makes this trilogy completely pointless. That’s my problem having Doctor Strange involved at all, you can put the genie back in the bottle without essentially going “Homecoming and Far From Home didn’t happen”.

[@danyms4082]

@@thomasjohnson1885 it wouldn't make it pointless, Peter still has all the character development that he gained, which was all that really mattered in the movies, plus it isn't that the movies didn't happen it's that everyone forgets he's Spiderman. him losing everything doesn't make the movies pointless when he didn't even have to work for what he had, the suits, the tech and all the connections all came to him just because Tony decided to recruit him for Civil War

[@thomasjohnson1885]

@@danyms4082 If I have to sit through 2 hours and a some change of Peter trying to get together with MJ, I don’t want that to essentially disappear. They can break up or something but erasure sucks. Homecoming proved that he earned the right to have the stark suit, he doesn’t need the tech but it’s just a part of this version now, FFH suit is him finally believing his abilities and not seeing himself as the next iron man but the next himself. I don’t see the reason to throw that away just to get a cloth sewn suit that means nothing to his growth other than “That’s in the comics”. Not saying you’re wrong but do you see my thought process?

[@dudebro6902]

It would have been cool if after Tom says "I don't know how to do it alone" Tobey says "You know, I believe one person can make a difference." I think that would be a cool way too reference Stan Lee in a Spider-Man movie.

[@powerfulsand8986]

That would be great! But, doesn’t Stan lee get a cameo in every marvel movie?

[@jessicatapia8268]

Well he kinda can't anymore so doing that would be a nice way to still feel like Stan's there

[@ahmadalaama7217]

@@powerfulsand8986 endgame was his last

[@powerfulsand8986]

@@ahmadalaama7217 oh.. R.I.P

[@jerm8123]

corny

[@wdcain1]

I'm most interested in MCU's Peter interacting with Raimi's Green Goblin since he is a straight-up Saturday morning cartoon super villain. That's the beauty of Norman Osborn since he is legit crazy but since he can hide it then people don't realize it until he finally explodes.

[@Omen_Rocks123]

Bruh looks like we got our wish and I was so worried they’d make goblin comedy relief but thankfully they didn’t as he had powerful lines and was actually threatening like before

[@llla_german_ewoklll6413]

I don't know why we would have Donald Glover playing Miles though. He's not Miles. He did reference his nephew though, which lines up more with Miles' story, along with the fact that Donald is literally buying weapons for shady stuff. It only makes sense that he would become a masked villain and have his nephew counter him like in into the spiderverse.

[@eddiediaz5518]

Here from the future to say that Tobey was done better than I would’ve imagined in the movie

[@Bettercallricky]

Nice pfp bro

[@Spideyisdagoat]

Happy to disprove some of your predictions after seeing the movie, like it being bad fan service, which it wasn’t.

[@ihateanatomy2169]

If they do go the Tobey being uncle Ben route, idk if I’ll like it. On one hand it would be beautiful to see Tobey and for him to be Ben, to give Tom some sort of motivation and say the famous line, kinda a full circle moment. But on the other it would feel cheap to me. Other than What If, It’s felt like Ben is nonexistent or at least not cared about much, literally Peter brings his suitcase in FFH but it’s blown up and not cared for at all by either Peter or May, so for Tobey just to pop up Ben feels like that’s the only way for us to truly care about MCU Ben which shouldn’t be the case for a character as important as he is to Peter Parker Spider-Man

[@troyoboyo17]

Completely agree. I think the only way I would really dig it is if it’s something more subtle like what I did in this motion script. I think that there’s no real other place to go with these series though since they’ve fumbled the Ben bag (figuratively and literally) so much

[@ihateanatomy2169]

@@troyoboyo17 Hopefully in the Freshman year animated series (which is weird to do imo, since they completing Tom’s trilogy so I see no real reason to NOW go back to his origins) they can show some impact Ben had on this version Peter. Kinda want them to go the Spectacular Spider-Man route, where they subtly incorporate Ben and show what he meant to May and Pete without directly showing him. Don’t know how much of the origin they’re gonna show us but hope they do that

[@thomasjohnson1885]

I disagree, Peter entire motivation is based on Ben, he decides to do the right thing instead of the thing that’ll bring him personal gain in Homecoming several times and Far From Home is all about Peter realizing that his responsibility should never overwrite his wants. He’s never said by name but his role is shown continuously, also it’s a suitcase I’m sure they have several other Uncle Ben stuff. I do think it’s now or never though, if they don’t bring him up when Peter is at his physical and mental lowest point then he’s never truly been a motivation or even factor in his life.

[@shaggymuffin349]

@@ihateanatomy2169 i think Freshman Year could work if they drop the side-characters after this movie and do a small reset. that way there's new characters introduced in the movies while getting backstory on the side characters from the original trilogy. if anything the side characters of this new trilogy are better fit for a TV ensemble than movies

[@mavibaso]

While i like the idea, i feel like the idea of tobey being ben would feel a little uncanny and creepy. Does that mean theres an andrew ben out there? A tom ben? Its like the whole “rick is morty” theory but with peter and ben lmao

[@nathanhills336]

Hey Troy. Thanks for making this video. For the past few years, let’s just say I’ve flip flopped a lot on the character of Spider-Man in the MCU. There’s times where I’ve absolutely loved him, there’s times where I agree with people such as you, and now, I can confidently say with this video that I’m totally in on MCU Spider-Man. He’s not my favorite, the cake goes to Andrew and the TASM version for that but I can definitely see the seeds of a perfect Spider-Man story in there. I genuinely like Homecoming, FFH and the other times Peter has been seen in the MCU but I can definitely see where some are coming from. But knowing that there are still people who are fans of Spider-Man that can view the MCU Iteration in a positive light and build a perfect Spider-Man story through that foundation, it gives me hope that the writers for No Way Home can do the same. I hope that makes sense, it might be a bit long winded but being a writer, you kinda get lost in your own words sometimes. I’m sure you’ve experienced the same thing. Now regarding NWH, you can definitely tell Jon Watts uped his game as a director. The visuals of the film are very tasteful, especially the opening shot of the second trailer with Peter in the rain. The CGI, yet unfinished, seems to be very good and it keeps the charm and aesthetic of the villains from the respective universes. Speaking of CGI, or lack there of, the new integrated suit is practical, at least in some shots, and it looks great! Same can be said for the red and black suit. The integrated suit is actually a combination of the upgraded suit and the iron spider after the latter is destroyed in the bridge battle with Doc Ock and Goblin. Without the stark jet and with Peter on the run, it seems as if he’s going to be getting his hands dirty while making this new suit which I’m excited for. Finally, it seems as if they’re finally treating the characters with weight and I’m sure both of us will be eating that up. And even with the grand scale of the film, you can still tell a grounded and personal story, just wanted to get that out there. Overall, I loved this video. I agree with you in most things and I’m glad you’re still able to respect something that isn’t exactly your favorite. And the respectful and positive attitude and the message at the end was great. Thanks again Troy, hopefully you like the film.

[@Jay-Da-Giant]

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, TROYOBOYO17! I CANT WAIT FOR YOUR PREWRITTEN MCU’S SPIDER-MAN 3! 🍽🦃🍁

[@alicobosboi]

Honestly I wish we had a Spider-Man film with Michael Mando as the scorpion all by himself. Cause Mando has acted as some of the best villains I've ever seen. (Vaas from Farcry for example.) I am excited for Dafoe's Green Goblin to manipulate and harm Peter again. It is a bit lame that they had to include other villains from different universes but it's every fanboy's fever dream. Hearing that there's various rewrites during filming from Holland himself, honestly scares me.

[@mariokart9227]

Ignacio from better call Saul is amazing

[@combatant224]

Is mac gargan scorpion's name and michael mando is the actor? Sorry i dont know much about scorpion, not really into him.

[@IcyDiamond]

@@combatant224 Yeah Mac Gargan is the real name of Scorpion

[@IcyDiamond]

Hopefully if they make a 4th MCU Spider-Man movie, Scorpion is the main villain in it

[@powerfulsand8986]

18:53 this is beautiful.. I’ve replayed this part so many times because it’s just, wow. It’s such a shame knowing that the Spider-Man no way home directors will never make something that will match this. I want to see this in the movie so bad! but, *sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the things we want the most. Even our dreams.* And in my case, my dream is that this scene ends up in the movie. And I’ve given up on it knowing that the directors won’t do this.

[@powerfulsand8986]

@@mewhenthe5384 did I ask? Did I ask why this can’t be in the movie? No. Go away.

[@powerfulsand8986]

@@mewhenthe5384 but I never asked :/ I was just saying that this would’ve been cool to see and all of a sudden you are telling me that Ben doesn’t matter in the movie? I know he doesn’t it stark that really counts but still. Why are you so aggressive for some reason? I did nothing that is worth you attacking me for.

[@powerfulsand8986]

@@mewhenthe5384 here’s what happened in case you forgot. I made a comment about how that would’ve been cool to see, Then YOU come into my reply’s and A-G-G-R-E-S-S-I-V-L-Y tell me that Ben doesn’t matter, and I didn’t ask about Ben in the comment heck I didn’t ask ANYTHING at all! So I tell you that i didn’t ask and then you say that I’m acting like there isn’t a reason for Ben not to be in the MCU? Mate I’ve never asked about Ben in my comment i don’t care about why he can’t be in them I’m just saying that this would be a cool scene! I’m not asking about why Ben isn’t in the MCU I really don’t even care! You really are a dumb one aren’t you?

[@powerfulsand8986]

@@mewhenthe5384 you’re comment was “aggressive” because you were blaming me for something I didn’t ask about.

[@powerfulsand8986]

@@mewhenthe5384 and no, I don’t think whispers are loud. Unless they’re from you.

[@Isiah61]

You know what I like about your Tobey/Uncle Ben cameo; that Peter doesn’t say “Thanks….UNCLE BEN.” We all knew who it was it didn’t need to be said like “Robin” at the end of Dark Knight Rises.

[@roseyshades96]

At this point with where this movie is going it's safe to say Twitter will be split in half much like the previous two films. Where there is people who like the change and people who think they can do better with it but ultimately this weird Peter Morales character it's a coin flip that we hope doesn't go too bad. Happy Thanksgiving Troyo!

[@AngryAndyToth]

Jesus Christ. Your Toby scene was spot on! I legit got tears in my eyes and the line of “sometimes we have to be steady” felt like a ton of bricks being dropped on my heart. GG man. That is absolutely spot on! And yes I’ve seen no way home and was happy with it. But this would have been the icing on the cake

[@itsjustaspider]

i'm surprised troyo didn't adress the fact that the hyphen is finally there in the name. thought he would get a nerdgasm or get the pen close and be like "oh right it's already there....WAIT-"

[@thenexusgamer383]

Bro the hyphen was always there in the MCU movies. Look back on posters

[@Silver_Spectre]

POV: you’re watching the video after watching the movie

[@TheSmart.1]

Idk about Miles or Gwen popping up. That'd be cool, but I'd honestly rather spend more time talking about what's been going on with the Peters since their movies ended than explaining where these other spider people came from. Understand where you're coming from though. I also kinda hope the rumors about this sinister six being more like a collection of 5 (or potentially 4 if they knock Ock out or flip him back to the light earlier) are true so that we can do an honest to god true MCU sinister six at the end of the next trilogy of films. Maybe that REAL sinister six can kill peter and we can move over to Miles afterwards. And I don't get the sudden hate for the Tobey being Ben scenario. That sounds amazing I don't know who originally came up with that idea but it's a great one and I really hope they do it. Banger video Troy.

[@gavinmorin]

I'm not gonna lie, that motion script part of the video actually gave me chills. Picturing that in my head and I would absolutely LOVE if something like that happens in the film.

[@lucascastlemena4042]

THANK. GOD. Tobey wasn´t presented as Uncle Ben

[@springbon927]

I know, but what if in some moment MCU Spider-Man said that Tobey Spider-Man kinda looks like MCU Spidey's uncle

[@romart03]

I ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE with having Gwen and miles in this movie, its already so jammed packed it'll be Spiderman 3 and tasm 2 all over again, it would literally feel just a shove in, the reason the 3 Peter parkers is being done is because of the already established universe and into the spider verse did well because its main focus was the multiverse , its literally in the name, having more spider people would work for another big scale Spiderman movie meant to be a multiverses movie and not just the story of 1 Peter Parker who causes random stuff, it would be the worst idea ever to bring back Tobey and Andrew after so many years and shift the limelight to spider Gwen or miles, I really hope they don't do that which im sure they won't

[@tylermcquerry5815]

Where do you get the time...

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

I just want to say first and foremost that the Tom and Toby animatic you did absolutely brought me the feels. And I absolutely agree that people should just learn that opinions are just opinions (even though that it’s still gonna get people in a frenzy regardless) With that being said, I’m not really a big fan of the idea of having spider Gwen and Miles introduced towards the end because I would honestly rather keep them separate from the into the spider verse films. Also, I really hope he decides to keep his identity a secret is a good way to close off his character journey. All in all, good video!

[@cabbageboi]

For somebody who loves MCU's Spider-Man and think he's a more down-to-earth take on the character that relates a lot to his humanity: I too, have my doubts of this movie, the same as you. To be completely honest with myself, I want the first act of the movie to be the most well written act of the movie, as we see Peter and his friends, and everything around Peter start to fall apart, giving him the emotional struggles he needs to want to go to Strange about the spell. With such a drastic reveal at the end of Far From Home, not only does this have to matter to the character and characters around Peter, but it also has to effect the world as a whole seeing as how the predecessor of Tony Stark is now convicted as a murderer and used Stark's technology that he trusted Peter with to "kill" said people. Out of anything, there needs to be controversy with how the world views superheroes as a whole after being told that a renouned and now dead superhero entrusted another hero who they were all familiar killed half a country. Outside of the first act (which I find extremely hard to fuck up), I have doubts about how they'll treat the villains outside of Doc Oc, because it seems like they're headed in a good direction with him. And of course I have my doubts about Tobey and Andrew and if they'll get their time to really show some character between the three. As much as I still love MCU's Spider-Man, I do agree with the doubts that you have on this movie and feel like you've made some very valid points. Because a multiversal plotline is... extremely difficult to manage, as difficult as time travel in my opinion.

[@kakak.4852]

The ending scene you made for this prewrite is amazing. I have nothing to say except that it is spectacular. Honestly idk if I'm going to like no way home too. I love homecoming and it's neighborhood style threats. Spiderman wasn't about the spectacle, it was always about Peter's struggles. I seriously hope no way home is good and it would succeed. Thank you Troyo for this prewrite.

[@harrywilkinson6056]

So stoked!! Your rewrites and prestige’s are amazing I’ve rewatched all of them countless times and they are so awesome! I can’t wait you are the reason I got into writing and the reason I continue to push myself I love your videos and this is gonna be incredible !!

[@dutchplanderlinde2779]

okay HOLY SHIT that motion script literally had me in tears in the end. Seeing Tom cry enforces the idea that his version of Uncle Ben never completed the saying before he died and now he finally realizes what he was trying to say...

[@dabeastboss3265]

Ikr so good. Probably will be better than the movie sadly 😞

[@conorleddy8085]

Man predicted a good part of the movie

[@dylanwirjono6540]

Bro.... That fan made ending with Tobey Maguire that u made... Oh my god. The music, the voice acting, the sketch art (the beautiful sunset). It's enough to make a grown man cry 😭. I wish that's what they're gonna do with Tobey's spiderman but based on leaks it's probably not :(. Thank you for making my dreams of tobey coming back come to life in the form of this.

[@jujubeansz]

i deadass almost teared at that uncle ben scene bro.

[@multiverseguy1239]

One of the things I would scream for is if one of the after-credit scenes is Tobey and Andrew are back in their dimension when a portal opens with Spider-Man 2099 and Earth-67's Spider-Man asking for either Tobey and Andrew's help.

[@altothesting]

Ok, this is going to be spectacular Update: This prewrite was definitely spectacular

[@danielmj7284]

I started getting emotional when u did ur tobey and tom scene 😢 that was beautiful, we need that

[@infiniteapex8762]

Thank God you didn't write the movie 🙏 but no hate tho, I genuinely liked it. Keep doing it!

[@stormshadowoffire]

"Ben puts his hand on a crying peter" you couldn't think of a better way to say that?

[@sunnyrandomz]

I think that the Uncle Ben scene would be spectacular to see, but looking at the direction of the movie, I think it would be pretty neat if Tobey as Spider-man does it. Just sitting on the roof with Tom before he leaves and he utters the famous classic line that we all know and love.

[@Ale-jh1nk]

The ending scene you created has me literally crying. That was the most well written endings and honestly a beautiful tribute to the rami film. Love your content and you always create the most interesting re writes. Keep doing what you’re doing :)

[@IcyDiamond]

Are you excited for Spider-Man Freshmen Year to show the origin story of MCU Peter Parker

[@troyoboyo17]

Think it could be cool. I’m kind of over high school Peter but I think a show about him in the homemade suit sounds awesome. The origin isn’t hugely important to me but the animation looks sick from what we’ve seen

[@shycher8146]

I really love the ending of this Prewite. Peter well know that "With great power comes great Responsibility." He'll always get back up to fight for his love ones. And always be Spider man.

[@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08]

How dare you insult the one and only CEO of Sex, NED

[@fernandomartinez6934]

Gotta be honest, I don't think this is one of your best works. I really think you misled people by calling this a "prewrite" when it's clearly more of a rewrite before the movie is even out. I do like a couple of your piches, but the majority you suggested here are just awful in my eyes. I think the last pitch of Tom and Tobey sitting at the rooftop and having a nice talk is great, but that's kinda where my praise ends. I really don't like a lot of the ideas you suggested such as the Sinister Six being composed of MCU villains because we only have Scorpion, Shocker and Vulture right now. Mysterio is dead as hell and Vulture doesn't even seem to hold much against Peter considering his ending in Homecoming. And if you were to have the movie introduce three new villains out of the blue to then have to flesh them out all in one movie... well I don't think I need to tell you what happens when you shove a bunch of undercooked characters into a Spider-Man movie. I'm also not a fan of your pitch to have Andrew with the black suit, Spider-Gwen and an older Miles Morales show up as the other Spider-Men because then it would just feel repetitive from ITSV. We already saw these characters in another Spider-Man movie that was very recent. And besides, these characters would not service the narrative as you claim they would, because that would then require an overhaul of the script. No Way Home is clearly not an "Anyone can wear the mask" type of Spider-Man story, it's clearly trying to focus on the MCU version of Peter Parker. If you do another one of these prewrites, please make sure they are actual prediction pitches instead of you trying to rewrite the story before the thing even comes out.

[@jefferyandbob3137]

Honestly it feels like he wants it to just be Spider-verse but in live action. Like I love that movie and everyone can have their opinions but it doesn’t seem like the actual movie is trying to be a multiverse movie more so than it’s trying to be a live action Spider-Man fan service movie with multiverses as a justification. Idk, the whole extra Spider-people in this video just feels like non-Peters for the sake of it without benefitting the plot in any meaningful way except to shoehorn in another movie’s message.

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

Respect your opinion

[@silveryaero7719]

I think using Tobey and Andrew just makes sense. Outside of the whole nostalgia thing, they're live action Spider-Man films with fleshed out stories. To have them come over to Tom's universe and pass on their knowledge would just be great in my opinion.

[@CarlStevenson21]

How’s this for a scene? A looter chucks a Molotov through the window inside Peter’s apartment and the building catches fire. Peter carries May to safety and hesitates on saving the Iron Spider suit too. But he rethinks the bad memories the suit brought him and leaves it behind. Then, in the post-credit scene, Aaron Davis is shown to have to Iron Spider suit and repaints it to more classic Prowler colors. Also, Miles Morales can cameo too. I’d have to fourth film be a Spider-Verse movie, but that’s just my pitch. (And fuck the Iron Spider suit, so here’s a better way to say to it “fuck you”)

[@Ben10man2]

Oh shit that's a cool idea

[@DJWingoYT]

Is that molotov through the window scene a reference to hawkeye?

[@troyoboyo17]

I like the idea of Prowler having the Iron Spider that’s cool

[@prehistoricblob783]

the first bit was almost perfect

[@worldscoolestperson7672]

If someone dies, then it better not be Aunt May. As his last familial bond and his mother figure, she is way too important to just kill off at this point in the story. When/if his identity is secret again, who even cares if he gets new friends and doesn’t tell them he’s Spidey? He doesn’t owe them anything, they don’t have a built-in trust and history. There is nothing quite like the pressure of having to lie to the woman who raised you, and if they throw that away, I’m done with MCU Spidey.

[@galactic85]

Still pisses me off that the MCU couldn't give us a scene of Peter and MJ talking about him being Spider-man and what it meant. They just had May be perfectly fine with it.

[@worldscoolestperson7672]

Any emotionally resonant moment, they skip past it or contradict it. It’s like each scene is written by someone who hates the previous scene or film(s) and wants to undo anything they did. It’s insane. Peter and May having money troubles in Civil War? Completely irrelevant to the story or characters in any of his movies and almost never even acknowledged outside of the occasional little nod that goes nowhere. Peter saying in both Civil War and HC that May would freak out and never let him be Spider-Man if she found out? Nah, apparently she is fine with it and even encouraged him to pack his Spidey suit in FFH when he didn’t want to. Peter mentioning in Civil War how May is really struggling with Ben’s death (which she should be because he literally died six months ago), and it’s clear he is as well? Nope, the man is never brought up again outside of some initials on a suitcase. Peter turning down Tony’s offer at the end of HC in order to go be his own hero? Never mind, he got the Stark suit back two minutes later. Happy giving Peter a big speech in FFH about how he’s his own hero and not Iron Man? just kidding, he’s going to start doing Iron Man stuff five seconds afterward and even start listening to AC/DC, drawing extremely overt parallels between them. Peter not noticing MJ’s subtle crush on him in HC, opening the door to let him figure out his own feelings for her in the next movie? Whoops, turns out he’s already super infatuated with her by the time FFH even begins, totally skipping over all that development. Peter’s experiences fighting Mysterio teaching him not to be fooled by a villain’s tricks anymore? Haha, well now he’s getting tricked by villains again, so I guess he learned absolutely nothing! Peter now seemingly reversing the identity reveal and thus returning him back to actually being Peter Parker who has to balance secretly being Spider-Man with having a life as Peter Parker with the people he truly cares about? Well, if the trailers and basic logic are any indication, it seems like he’ll end NWH with nobody even in his life, defeating the narrative purpose of undoing the identity problem from FFH! Without anyone he is genuinely close to, who will he even be hiding his identity from in the next movie that we’re supposed to care about? What, is he gonna meet some dude he kinda likes hanging out with or whatever? Peter balancing that relationship doesn’t matter at all, he’ll barely know them! There’s no tension there, he could instantly cut them out of his life and it would barely matter to him! They aren’t his aunt! They aren’t his childhood best friend! It doesn’t matter who it is, they can’t just pop in and expect to ever take those places. MCU Spidey is officially dead on arrival if May dies.

[@solgabosi5716]

Looking back on this video i can see how he got so many things right; No Way Home was, indeed, a fan service movie, and this kinda proves it, but it was done right. They knew they had SO much to lose already; this felt like a last shot kind of project for spiderman, since Tom fought with Sony to get him in the MCU to finish the trilogy. it was truly epic, it had consequences and the stakes felt high, and they left Peter at a completely new instance of his life that we haven't seen yet on film; he's absolutely and completely alone. NO ONE knows who he is, not even the avengers, and it's basically a blank slate. It was emotional and incredibly crazy. I'm so excited to see where they go next. I hope they get a new director for a more mature and dramatic take on College Peter, even if we have to wait til 2025 for a new story.

[@masonyoung7834]

I don’t care what happens as long as uncle Ben actually has some importance and peters identity goes back to being a secret And he says fuck

[@OceanThalasso]

Trust me, coming from the future, you love this movie

[@norrin_falk]

I like your take even if I dont agree with some of it, in fact, i actually just subscribed cause of your whole vibe, i dig it. That being said, and taking a risk by saying not every is subjective within the context about the spider mantle, I disagree wholeheartedly with what you said there, yes more people can wear the spider mantle, yes most of them have made it their own and made it beautiful and inspiring in their own way, but in no way whatsoever can anyone be as Spider-Man as OG Peter Parker, you even have an entire comic run about that (superior spider-man), even with miles (who's boring as fuck in comic book format but pretty darn great in the animated movie) you can have anyone wear the mask... but the heart of spider-man, the endurance (there's a reason that he "alone" battled for weeks against Morlun, a through and through spider-counter measure) and sense of responsibility, that will always be unique to Parker, and I'm not saying that Miguel or Miles or Kayne or Ben dont have a sense of responsibility, or heart, this is honestly kinda hard to explain but if y'all are truly of Spider-Man fans... you'll understand what I mean. This being said, you still are valid in your opinion there, it's just that...honest to god? I think you're like the third person in this world who would find a comeback from Andrew and especially the OG Maguire boring! BUT, that's fine obviously :D I especially love how you said "they had better NOT fuck up Tobey" tho, if they make him all jokester i swear to god...

[@longlam6271]

I think one of the things that people found out recently was that Uncle Ben was cut out from Homecoming and such due to Sony's choice and not Marvel which is why he was mention in What If since that was all Marvel. Looking forward to seeing what they do for the Spider-Man Freshman Year animated series which is a prequel to Peter first showing up in Civil War and his MCU movies.

[@AndrewATD]

The spider-Gwen / venom Garfield thing is cool but you have to remember they have to fit everything in less then 3 hours especially with all the villain stories and stuff, it’s just very difficult to do. Love the idea though.

[@trevisk]

I will be very surprised if it’s genuinely a narratively compelling masterpiece, I’m mainly just expecting a good theater experience at this point and it looks like it will deliver on that front

[@cirillagwen]

TROY WHAT THE FUCK I'm literally crying your scene with Tobey is genuinely everything I could ask for from nwh dude wtf

[@kkwonbi8071]

had to hold myself from crying like hell because of my parents near me, but man some tears went straight down my eyes like waterfalls

[@judethedude5243]

I started tearing a bit when i heard elfman music come up

[@kozzyarts]

Well the reason Uncle Ben wasn’t mentioned before was because of the contract Sony gave Marvel to not talk about about him or Peters parents. But in the new contract they are giving Marvel the rights to do that (Uncle Ben was actually mentioned in Marvels’s What If on Disney+) so Uncle Ben may actually make an appearance

[@jonwatts3795]

Boys he's not gonna like my movie lmao 😂

[@fchwqo]

💀

[@troyoboyo17]

Jon just don’t fuck up Tobey and we’re good

[@Tom-jg9de]

Bro the uncle ben part make me cry Lice Good DAM

[@melodysoundy7627]

7:59 Ok finally someone agrees with me about this. When I say that I'm offended Sony is trying to replicate the success of Into The Spiderverse with three Peter Parkers I mean, they're missing the whole point of what made Into The Spiderverse a great multiverse film.

[@johnnosmith1067]

it’d be even worse “replicating” if they were to use Miles and Spider-Gwen. No Way Home is at least different. so you’re saying any different live action Spider-Man movie would be missing the whole point and is just a replication? or could it be a new film with new messages. let’s wait til it comes out before saying it’s replicating Into the Spider-Verse and missing the point?

[@Bindersquinch]

That end scene you wrote made me tear up. I don't care that it was lines from spiderman 2. It was beautiful.

[@ayabarjoseph]

Anyone else be like he got the start like, basically perfect....

[@swapnilmali4320]

Wtf after watching the movie and the first 10min of this video Im like :- is this guy a secret writer for the movie and just messing with us with this video cause most of the stuff he has said so far was wayyyy too on point just to be a coincidence Or maybe great writers think alike I guess😂

[@dylancole1910]

Honestly, I wasn’t a big fan of Tom Holland at first either. I mean, I thought he was entertaining in Civil War and in Homecoming but because I grew up on the Raimi trilogy and I had my opinions on what I thought made the character great it barred me from being as hyped for him for awhile. I’d just come out of seeing how awful the Garfield franchise came out and I didn’t have a whole lot of hope that this was going to hold up beyond a few movies. Since then though, I’ve rewatched the movies multiple times and come around to really like Tom. I still don’t think he’s the best, but I think that has done well with the portrayal of the character. Mostly though... seeing this movie isn’t about Tom, admittedly I just want to see Tobey and Andrew. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@zach346]

I think there’s a rumor that Sony is doing there own Sinister 6 and this will only be 5 villains Makes sense since you got Vulture Scorpion Shocker Morbius Kraven (the last 2 getting their own movies) Idk who the last will be Rhino? Mr Negative since FEAST is in NWH? Mysterio? Idk

[@felipeemanuel6653]

Very good video bro! I just discord about the part of the multiverse, bring Milles and Gwen would't add nothing to the history, it would only be a nice fanservice. The plot is about the Tom version learn about responsability, no one better to convoy this message than older versions of himself.

[@tomtudorweaver1078]

You killed it with this Troyo! I hear you about being tired thinking about this film, I get a headache thinking about it. In fact it was your reaction to the first trailer where I finally felt okay to leave a comment somewhere about why this film has me concerned rather than excited. Obviously we've seen Spider-Man in film for nearly two straight decades so they need to take risks and try new things, and I get why certain details they overlook in certain adaptations if they've been done before, but there's certain parts that are just fundamental and need to be repeated. I recently read the Ultimate Spider-Man run for the first time and re-watched the Spectacular Spider-Man after having not seen it in years, and they both turned me off the MCU's take. Those versions showed how you can rework the classic aspects of Spider-Man stories, along with having the depth and drama whilst still being fun. The MCU Spidey films are fun but have no depth in comparison, and I almost feel like the MCU's tonal structure restricts their Spider-Man from ever getting into that necessary character drama, they just dance around it every time. On top of that I adore Spider-Man's rogues gallery and have wanted to see how Norman Osborn and Otto Octavius could be handled in the MCU for ages, but I never wanted the MCU's Spider-Man to just borrow them from other universes not knowing who they are, and probably only encountering them in this one film, if he met the versions from his universe he'd just be suspicious of them turning evil the whole time. As you said I don't see them having any weight, the Vulture and Mysterio carried those first two films for me and have proved to be two of the most popular MCU villains, and having just seen Shang-Chi I know the MCU can pull of truly compelling and original takes on villains that are just as memorable as the hero of the film. If they actually end up doing the Sinister Six in this film by just having six unrelated villains teaming up from different universes for one fight at the end I think part of my soul will die. I say all of this, but I can forgive the whole film if Topher Grace's Venom shows up to make the spider-sense penis joke he made in Spider-Man 3, that better end up being the first time 'spider-sense' is said in the MCU.

[@CrossOutBryce]

I feel like introducing the Spider-Men/Women that aren't Peter would...fall flat? Without them having been introduced prior, their appearances wouldn't work too well. The reason it worked in Spider-verse is because everyone got backstories explained. This movie does NOT have time or room for that. It barely has room for the amount of villains it has.

[@THEBIDSTUDIOS]

Man the tears were flowing after that beautiful motion script. Amazing work as always dude!

[@ImPapiJuancho]

after watching no way home, all i can say is im glad this guy didnt write the movie. his take would have made this movie very sub par

[@TheBrilliantBrick]

Agreement

[@TheSpeedMason]

Honestly ngl, I only enjoyed his Homecoming rewrite. His Far From Home rewrite and No Way Home prewrite was not that good.

[@ImPapiJuancho]

@@TheSpeedMason I gotta check out the others. This is my first time watching this guy.

[@TheSpeedMason]

@@ImPapiJuancho Have fun with it, I honestly like his rewrite videos better than his prewrite ones since most of the rewrite videos have like a visual representation of the movie that he's rewriting (i.e sort of like a cardboard movie) while his prewrite ones are more or less rambling about stuff. His Justice League and TASM 2 rewrite videos is personally my favourite out of the rest.

[@troyoboyo17]

It’s almost like the point of the video wasn’t writing the movie

[@master0fthearts894]

Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃 Can’t wait until the video is out. Really interested to see your prewrite, and it’s amazing to see the Baja Blast back in action.

[@RyanM-hp8nd]

I can’t express enough if I don’t enjoy this movie, I can’t see myself truly enjoying another MCU Spider-Man film again, it’d feel broken, incomplete and if Tobey or Andrew are treated as a gag that they have similar costumes and Tobey says something stupid and Andrew calls him out on that I’d just be done They need to have all three Peter Parker’s to a tee, especially Tom. If I find myself losing interest in the second half I’d be genuinely sad, I couldn’t bring myself to look at Spider-Man the same way again if they manage to fuck up all three of them in just 2 and a half hours.

[@statelessfgc1069]

Judging from Doc Ock stealing the nanites, Electro having an arc reactor on his chest, and the leaks about a giant arc reactor being the mcguffin, looks like we're basing the movie around Stark again

[@heitoroliveira4028]

Dude you're the best writer i ever hear, because you make me wanna cry by your versions of the Spider-Man stories, i cried with the rewrite of Amazing Spider-Man 2 the final electro scene and i cried again for the toby-uncle ben moment, i really did please don't stop doing rewrites your so amazing ❤

[@nickgaschler5828]

man you like lowkey nailed that bingo card…one addition i wouldve lowkey loved is having miles come thru the spider verse in like an animated style and he gets morphed into live action especially after what dr strange did

[@mostlyimpulsive3462]

Looking forward to your post-watch thoughts.

[@Pleasant_Park]

Why the hell do you not have 100k subs, its honestly mindblowing how underrated you are, Keep up the great work.

[@chipsnicecream5989]

I have a love-hate relationship towards Tom and Andrew's Spider-Man just because it didn't gave us a shot of them with their masks ripped off just like Tobey's. I know it's a petty reason but it just looks so badass so when I saw the thumbnail I immediately clicked. Props man

[@Dead-head]

Wow…a bunch of points in this video aged extremely well

[@pradeepdungdung4379]

call me crazy but I find it really hard to believe people hating Spider-Man, an Avenger, the guy who helped save the universe.... if they made solo films heck even one film between Homecoming and Infinity War they could've built people divided over friendly neighborhood Spider-Man

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

The thing is I want that exact scene with Toby as Uncle ben or Spider-Man. Leaving it ambiguous makes it perfect. I think I’m gonna like this movie myself but I love how u did it.

[@bendi_boi_1797]

bro the amount of shit you predicted is insane

[@FrederikMeyer]

What I would love for this film: - Tobey being a mentor for Tom - Tobey telling Tom about Uncle Ben and “with great power, comes great responsibility” - Andrew saving MJ to reedem himself from Gwen Stacys Death - Tom loses the Iron Spider Suit and have to learn the basis of being Spiderman - Andrew showing us he can put some new depth and a fun/different take on the Spiderman character, that can teach Tom something new - Tobey being a badass and a stronger and more experienced Spiderman - Green Goblin wanting revenge on Tobey and interacting with Tobey - Post credit scene, setting Venom up as a future vilian or introducing the X-men or Morbius - Danny Elfmans Spiderman theme - Small fun references and quotes that poke fun and embraces the old Spiderman movies - Spiderman going back to not having his identity revealed - Some intense fights with ripped masks and Spiderman screaming in pain, no music - J. Jonah being himself and talking about Spiderman being a menace - Maybe a small flashback scene or montage showing us what happened afterwards in Tobey and Andrews universe

[@nuutella6564]

I can careless about people’s opinions, I just really enjoy hearing people talk about Spider-Man, negative or positive.

[@harryfleutv666]

The “we should be steady and give up the thing we want most” line should have been in the film, it would have been perfect for when Tom’s Peter sacrifices his identity

[@skatingiguess2130]

return to form? do you mean back to formula

[@Aydrenn]

BACK TO FORMULA?!

[@wintersoldier164]

You brought new concerns that i didn't thought about, even though i love all spiderman movies, i respect your opinion

[@rw2_tt]

SPOILERS what would've been funny is if when Tobey Andrew and Tom talk abt stuff they've fought and shit is they ask (might be a bit random) what's their funniest joke or something and Tobey references pizza time and Andrew tells one of his and in a future movie Tom can use it like he was inspired by one of his brothers :)

[@shadowclaw7210]

That would been amazing and good kind of fan service

[@kingclueless5124]

YEA BABY THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITINV FOR

[@Pirandadummy]

May.............. is died.

[@Rival__]

THAT ENDING ACTUALLY GOT ME TEARING UP TROY, I REALLY WANT THIS TO HAPPEN BUT probably won’t happen..

[@andrewplaysagame3479]

While I don't agree with most of the things you said in this video, I appreciate the effort and thought you put into your version of NWH. What is spot on though is everything you said about Twitter and people's opinions on the internet. Fans and commenters should not have to be babied with an "opinion warning" in each video. They should accept and respect another person's opinion and move on. There's a difference between discussing opinions and being toxic. Anyway, great job on the video!

[@ArlGrmes]

Love how real and honest you are. Subbed.