2023 Subaru Ascent vs Toyota Highlander - Symmetrical AWD vs Torque Vectoring AWD Slip Test!

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We compare the Toyota Highlander and Subaru Ascent, including a closer look at the all-wheel drive systems.
Let us know what you think of this Subaru and Toyota below.
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@OutdoorsybyNature
@OutdoorsybyNature 11 ай бұрын
First-time Subaru owner - I bought an Ascent after being a huge fan of the Highlander for over a year. The value in this ridiculous market and ability to handle well in snow, along with knowing so many people who loved theirs made me decide to give them a try. So far, so good! This review gave me a bit more confidence that I made the right choice so thank you!
@cristianstriblea792
@cristianstriblea792 7 ай бұрын
We have a Subaru ascent since 2019 and never had one problem with her. Now she has 70,000 miles and besides tire changed didn’t need anything .( it may be due for first change of brake pads soon )
@OutdoorsybyNature
@OutdoorsybyNature 7 ай бұрын
@@cristianstriblea792 I've seen so many people in forums who've had issues with the 2019. I'm glad you're not part of that group! I'm still trying to figure out if mine fits the bill for what I need it to do - camping and hauling. If not, I will most likely be trading it in for a truck.
@josephdulsky3812
@josephdulsky3812 Ай бұрын
​@@OutdoorsybyNatureI have a 2015 Impreza Sedan Limited 95k miles. My head gasket blew and was lucky to get home. They supposedly say to change the coolant frequently to help with this, unfortunately you run a risk of your subaru blowing up still
@OutdoorsybyNature
@OutdoorsybyNature Ай бұрын
@@josephdulsky3812 Wow. I'm sorry to hear that! Hopefully, you can get it fixed once and for all so you're able to stay safe on the road.
@josephdulsky3812
@josephdulsky3812 Ай бұрын
@@OutdoorsybyNature for $5k , probably looking at a new vehicle, Subaru won't do anything about it
@arielspalter7425
@arielspalter7425 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t driven the Toyota but I own a Subaru (2022 Outback, same AWD system), and with the nasty weather we had in Toronto throughout January and February, that thing ruled! It gives you so much confidence and control. You see other cars struggle to get through unplowed roads and for the Subaru it’s a cakewalk
@MarksTech
@MarksTech Жыл бұрын
same! except i took a road trip from NC, USA to CO, USA. (about 1800 miles/2900km~) during late december/ early January. There was a TON of snow in colorado, especially in the mountains where i stayed. i was at an AirBNB and the road to the airbnb wasnt plowed, AND it was on a pretty decent grade. the person living next to me couldnt get up due to the slope. me and 3 others had to help push him up. I forgot the make and model of the car but it was also AWD. but anyway, then as i was leaving, my subaru went up and only the front right wheel slipped for like half a second and thats it! I was using stock tires, too.
@EastWood2004
@EastWood2004 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is because of the symmetrical awd. What if one of the tyres got punctured or deflated? good luck with the locking system. Subaru’s awd is one the lowest tolerance in the rim differential. It means you will have to replace all 4 sets if one of tyres becomes not repairable.
@fibonacimike4110
@fibonacimike4110 Жыл бұрын
I agree, in 2018 i was shopping for a new suv, could not decide between outback and highlander so bought both. They both have great qualities but the outback is like the best of all worlds, best vehicle i ever had in the snow, handles better than any suv and i would argue better than most care. I just love it
@morgankid
@morgankid Жыл бұрын
Subaru Outback model XT is simply wonderful!
@guidedmeditation2396
@guidedmeditation2396 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a Honda Pilot-Subaru would be as good?
@kh867
@kh867 Жыл бұрын
Owning both a Subaru and Toyota, I’m much more comfortable in adverse weather conditions in the Subaru.
@youknowme...1840
@youknowme...1840 Жыл бұрын
I didn't buy Subaru because of a famous engine oil leak. Subaru (boxer engine ) often happens after a few years or after 60000km. It'll cost $2000 to fix it. I don't understand why nobody talks about this.
@jennifercarr6918
@jennifercarr6918 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had five Subarus over a period of 30 years (put 321,000 miles on my Forester) and never experienced the oil leak you describe.
@kh867
@kh867 Жыл бұрын
@@youknowme...1840 Leaks, no. Burns oil, yes. Very minimal though.
@clintmurdock119
@clintmurdock119 Жыл бұрын
@@youknowme...1840 60k on outback, 65k on wrx no oil leaks. Maybe burns some more but VERY minimal.
@stevedott715
@stevedott715 Жыл бұрын
People keep bringing up Subaru oil leaks/gaskets but it hasn’t been a problem foe more than a decade!
@emw747
@emw747 Жыл бұрын
I own my third Subaru Forester, and truthfully wouldn't drive anything else in harsh winter conditions. The confidence it provides is unbeatable.
@youknowme...1840
@youknowme...1840 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever experienced an engine oil leak? Subaru (boxer engine ) often happens after a few years or after 60000km.
@jonhansen4745
@jonhansen4745 Жыл бұрын
@@youknowme...1840 96,000 miles on our '15 Forester Touring & it's as dry underneath as the day it was built. It's halfway through it's 3rd set of tires, it's on it's 2nd battery, and the only other expense besides general maintenance was a rear wheel bearing and new rear brakes @ 90,000 miles.
@evodgamehunter4290
@evodgamehunter4290 Жыл бұрын
@@youknowme...1840 My chev was a POS and leaked and consumed oil constantly. Everything electrical broke! Subaru is nothing but excellent
@DarianDT
@DarianDT Жыл бұрын
Once a Subaru owner always will be buying Subaru. I'm currently rocking in my Ascent and it's a little beast. I use adaptive cruise control 90% of the time, it's great for long road trip and superb in rush hours traffic. If Subaru ever make a minivan I will be the first to preorder it.
@timkc1638
@timkc1638 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered a ‘23 ascent touring my wife really seems to like it. We went with brown leather I was a little skeptical and heard a lot of negatives but my brothers swear by the brand and I figured what the heck. I really thought it drove well. I guess there just seems to be a lot of Subaru haters and then there’s a lot of Subaru lovers. Torque heads seem to do nothing but diss the brand. I have different priorities in my life now than just insane levels of torque and what not. So thanks for letting me know you like it.
@Dawn191
@Dawn191 Жыл бұрын
I also would love to see a Subaru minivan. I would get one also.
@SubieandFriends
@SubieandFriends Жыл бұрын
@@timkc1638 hardcore Subaru addict here….1st, yes Subaru is such a great capable brand to own….2nd, yes there are haters out there who know nothing about nothing….3rd, most of the hate have to do with the CVT…..again haters who just want to hate because CVT Subarus can off-road just as good if not better then old Subarus….I have over 300 videos on my channel to prove it!!!!
@terriocel4780
@terriocel4780 Жыл бұрын
Great review.....
@kens5871
@kens5871 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a ascent to be delivered in sept.. I’m surprised that you use the cruise control in rush hour. My current car, cx9, is not smart enough to do this. I’m excited to try it
@SB-cz5ku
@SB-cz5ku Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for showing the child car seat. To a lot of parents with young children still in child seats it's something we always think of but no one shows or talks about.
@dcrijo
@dcrijo Жыл бұрын
You're spot on with this one. I've watched so many car reviews and none of them talk about car seats unless you include "mom review" in the search
@m-cw7er
@m-cw7er Жыл бұрын
I will take Subaru. My Outback handles bad weather like nothing else I owned. I feel so safe and comfortable in bad weather conditions.
@haldent
@haldent 9 ай бұрын
All though the Subaru doesn’t come with a wireless charger as a standard, mine did come with one as a dealer installed option and they can be added after the sale as well. We love our 2023 Ascent Touring!
@mikestock6461
@mikestock6461 9 ай бұрын
We just bought one this week. Picking it up on Friday!
@CallMeChato
@CallMeChato Жыл бұрын
Have owned both brands, not the Ascent but an Outback and Forester and you really notice the lower centre of gravity of the boxer engine. No one is going to track these cars but the Highlander has a horrible turning radius and the Subs generally are way better in this regard. I think the AWD on the Subs really help with all driving experiences. My Toyota always dives into corners. Thanks for the vid.
@pault151
@pault151 Жыл бұрын
2023 Highlander is a bit longer body than our last, 2006, but turning circle (often misstated as radius) at 37.4' is the same. And that is a quarter foot tighter than the Ascent FWIW.
@diemes5463
@diemes5463 11 ай бұрын
Wow, a minor celebrity sighting while car shopping...
@frankiethefrog1752
@frankiethefrog1752 5 ай бұрын
Get the sport package, stiffer suspension.
@haldent
@haldent Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 Subaru Ascent Touring with the optional wireless charger. We test drove several SUVs including the Toyota and opted for the Ascent hands down.
@robqwertyuipp8750
@robqwertyuipp8750 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2023 highlander, it's great in the snow . What I don't like is under hard accelerating, it's got torque steer because it is heavily weighted front drive .
@patricklundquist9869
@patricklundquist9869 Жыл бұрын
I test drove the Toyota Highlander a half hour before trying the Subaru Ascent, which I bought, so you know I agree with your assessment. My wife had so much trouble climbing up into my 2005 F150 for the past 17 years that I finally took pity and decided to downsize. I'd tried an Explorer a week prior. I'm 6'3" and 245 lbs. The Explorer center console hit a pressure point on the outside of my right knee. So not good for long drives. The Highlander had an even tighter cockpit plus hit pressure points on both knees. After that, instead of looking at features I found myself trying on cars like shoes. The Subaru was much roomier and the shape of the console creates no problems with pressure points. That, plus Subaru's reputation was good enough for me. I had no clue how many features this car had until I got home and started going through the Quick-Start guide. I didn't even know it had paddle shifters until I was driving home. I like the way the thigh bolster not only supports thighs but also captures and contains crumbs while snacking on long drives for easier cleanup later (that's not in the Quick-Start guide). The rear seat is designed to convince kids to grow up and move out sooner. (Also not in the Quick-Start guide). I did not use the CD player much in my truck but one thing, unlike satellite radio, it never stopped playing when I stopped under an overpass. I've had the car for six days now, maybe I should go pop the hood (bonnet) and see what the engine looks like... I know what you are wondering, so why did I buy this car if I knew nothing about it? Because my wife liked the color.
@anthonyvidal7957
@anthonyvidal7957 Жыл бұрын
The color 🤣
@D0NTsmokeCRACK
@D0NTsmokeCRACK Жыл бұрын
I’m roughly the same size, a tad taller heavier, and your right about trying on cars like shoes. Yes I know the highlander is the most practical choice but do I really want a car that lasts 20 years if I’m uncomfortable after 20 minutes
@sharkskin3448
@sharkskin3448 Жыл бұрын
Wait til there's a blizzard. You'll dislocated your shoulder from patting yourself on the back so much! We have a Tundra and a Forester. The Subaru is superior in snow.
@patricklundquist9869
@patricklundquist9869 Жыл бұрын
@@sharkskin3448 I live North of San Francisco. Might be a long wait for a blizzard. Southern California just had their first tropical storm in almost a century so stranger things have happened. My new Subaru is now our old Subaru. My wife just got a new Forester. When that blizzard hits, we're ready.
@sharkskin3448
@sharkskin3448 Жыл бұрын
@@patricklundquist9869 mud slides?🤷🏼‍♂️
@cullinan18
@cullinan18 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you adding the slip test.
@benspindler8768
@benspindler8768 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Highlander would do on the slip test in AWD mode? Otherwise a very fair comparison between vehicles.
@RRr-yl8zr
@RRr-yl8zr 9 ай бұрын
@@benspindler8768 Probably Not as good as Subaru in "X- mode" 😉
@anjcoco
@anjcoco Жыл бұрын
Great comparison and commentary. I am a Subaru owner but both of these are on our list. This was a helpful side by side.
@mkleiman47
@mkleiman47 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, we have the Ascent Touring model 2023. The choices for us came down to the Toyota and Ascent. Ascent won out. My wife is the main driver and the sightlines for the Subaru are just way better. Other interesting tidbits were the factory installed hitch as we need to tow with the vehicle. The Toyota hitch was expensive and does not come with a 7 pin connector. The Subaru has both. Kind of nuts that the factory OEM Toyota hitch does not have it. It was suggested to get it installed after market.....no way in hell I would buy a $50K + vehicle and put on a 7 pin after market towing electrical pin. One thing I hate about our Subaru is the side bolsters, they are to small (or I have a big ass). Really hate that. Fixed by getting a small seat cushion. Overall in a Manitoba winter it will perform better than the Toyota. Gas mileage is ok as per the video. Either one would be a good choice, but for smaller women the sight lines in the Subaru might be the biggest deciding factor. It was for us
@peterbaxter6615
@peterbaxter6615 11 ай бұрын
You are so right about the side bolstering. I test drove an Outback and our son's Forester and they are too narrow. Not so much, I find, on the Ascent. I asked salesman if he had heard comments from others about this narrow seat deal and he had.......
@aureissimus
@aureissimus 5 ай бұрын
A friend of mine from Houston moved up north. He always remarked on how the Subarus were always zooming around on snow-covered roads when everyone else was slipping and sliding.
@davehaddad3229
@davehaddad3229 Жыл бұрын
Both great brands & vehicles. Subaru gets my vote.
@ljastrong78
@ljastrong78 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thanks for showing and talking about how car seats would fit. I'm leaning toward the Subaru.
@unclesteff
@unclesteff 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative review. We're on our second Subaru and just LOVE the full-time 4WD, particularly with a nice set of proper A/T's (Falken Wildpeaks work amazingly). Also, wireless charging in the Ascent is an available option, so you have that covered 👍
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 11 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this in action on snow and ice on a modest incline driving home from boarding. we had to start up the hill which was also slightly sloped right to left: our outback was started moving immediately without a tire breaking traction and the Toyota Highlander in front of us (driven by my friend)broke the front tires free causing his front end to slide left/downhill and then the back tires kicked in and also broke free causing him to slide slowly sideways and backwards down the hill until he ended up against the plowed snowbank at the shoulder. He ended up needing to back down the hill until it flattened out and make one entire run because if he stopped on any incline, he couldn’t start again. He bought an Ascent over summer 😂 Best part was there were early 90s Subarus cruising around no problem that same day while all the other makes and models, other than some earlier 2000s Volvos, we’re struggling in the conditions and sliding everywhere
@AS-pm2ng
@AS-pm2ng 11 ай бұрын
This my thought and experience. Even when I had a Jeep this was common in mid and snow. We opted for the 2023 Ascent Touring edition and haven't looked back. Although the model and color we wanted was hard to find, we finally found one in Kennesaw, Ga.
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 10 ай бұрын
@@AS-pm2ng I’ve had a myriad of vehicles with different AWD and 4WD systems in them. My jeep grand Cherokee was worse than my RWD ‘88 Volvo sedan in slick conditions like plowed down to hard pack snowy roads. So far nothing beats the Subarus I’ve owned including the 2 5spds and my wife’s CVT outback; nothing beats the full time directly proportional center differential design with no side to side offset for balance.
@gpoman9988
@gpoman9988 Жыл бұрын
We just bought a 2023 Ascent Premium and love it.
@haydenf1353
@haydenf1353 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had both a Subaru with S-AWD and a 2021 highlander platinum AWD with torque vectoring. Both of them felt well planted in adverse weather conditions. However, when off the beaten path, the TV-AWD of the highlander has some clever tricks up its sleeves to ensure you never slip a tire, even starting up a gravelly hill from a stop like I did. It’s wicked capable.
@shrinidhikulkarni479
@shrinidhikulkarni479 Жыл бұрын
Planning to buy Highlander hybrid XLE. We are family of 2 (husband and wife). We'll hopefully have kids in 2 years. Do you think it's worth it to buy Highlander now? I live in Toronto
@haydenf1353
@haydenf1353 Жыл бұрын
I’m very pleased with our Highlander. I would recommend it to anyone with a family or planning for a future family. In particular, the AWD model that I have (non-hybrid) is plenty capable.
@sansinutube
@sansinutube Жыл бұрын
@@shrinidhikulkarni479I would buy a RAV4 Hybrid AWD now, which is very capable in snow. Then when I need a bigger vehicle I will trade in the RAV4 and get a highlander.
@shrinidhikulkarni479
@shrinidhikulkarni479 Жыл бұрын
@@sansinutube That makes sense. As of now, the waiting for Toyota hybrids is crazy.
@chrissaenz6213
@chrissaenz6213 Жыл бұрын
​@sansinutube Rav4 hybrid does not have dynamic torque vectoring at all.
@brucebabin4137
@brucebabin4137 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely sold on the Highlander. It's an SUV, not made for speed but made for a great ride. That being said, a fast engine will give you the speed but not the fuel mileage. You choose. Love the rear brake rotors which are just like the front as opposed to the single fanless disk. Wish they mentioned that. 😊
@subashsivakumaran2012
@subashsivakumaran2012 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, simple and straight forward review. It is Thumbs up Subaru ascent for overall value.
@bobbylindauer2482
@bobbylindauer2482 8 ай бұрын
Family of long-time Toyota owners - Camry in the 90s (over 200K miles), Sequoia in the 00s (over 150K miles), and Sienna in the 10s (currently over 225K miles). After buying a Crosstrek in '22 for our oldest (18), we tried the Ascent (Touring) to replace the Sienna, and compared it to G. Highlander and Mazda CX90. Ended up an easy decision. Ascent checks the boxes - price, safety, ease of driving, and performance in poor road conditions. Plus the first two rows are downright cavernous (I'm 6'8" and fit easily everywhere except the 3rd row - which is only for kids and carpool).
@pauly5502
@pauly5502 Ай бұрын
It seems like 3rd row is too small for most large kids though!
@Joeybz1
@Joeybz1 Жыл бұрын
I have the 22 limited subaru. I do love my Subaru Ascent!! I rode in a Highlander for a trip last year. It was very nice but I was in the 2nd row seat. It was nice, but I felt cramped. I have ridden in the back seat of my Subaru. Not for a long trip, but for an hour trip. The door has better storage. I like thar upper cup holder. I do have the bucket seats so I was more comfortable. It felt roomer for some reason. I did add a console in the back. I do like we did that. All I needed was more cup holders!! Actually it was for my dogs when I use the hammock seat cover so they don’t fall in a hole. I use the extra storage bin as as well. To have some things on hand. However.. the dogs have been ban from the car since they shed so bad. We have taken my daughters family out and they said it was very comfortable. Even the kids in back liked it back there. Even my inlaws loved it the second seat because it was such a smooth ride and comfortable. The wide backdoor is easier for everyone to get in and out.
@CC-kr2fs
@CC-kr2fs 10 ай бұрын
Another thing to consider, Being to large sized people sitting in the two different vehicles in the front seat, I noticed that there is more width room in the Subaru. You both appear to be sitting more comfortably as well. Just food for thought. Which one would be more comfortable on a long road trip with the family, or by yourself? P. S. I'm on my 3rd Subaru with no problems on eithher one of them. Nice video, thanx.
@cbijames7
@cbijames7 Жыл бұрын
I love my AWD Subaru especially in the rain in Florida gets very slick and it works great on the wet roads in Florida
@e.s.5872
@e.s.5872 Жыл бұрын
I bought my first subaru a month ago and i was so impressed. I've driven the highlander and the honda crvs and pilots but subaru just did it for me. so much so that i went back the next week and traded in my mazda cx9 for another subaru ascent.
@culinarycaravan
@culinarycaravan Жыл бұрын
Great reviews, as always. Thanks guys. The "eyesight" system is a little unnerving but like you say, it's a welcomed safety feature... especially on longhaul journeys when whiteline fever sets in.
@chriscowan6630
@chriscowan6630 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review as usual guys thanks for the great content
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
You bet
@martygenska8117
@martygenska8117 8 ай бұрын
This helps a bunch. My wife is looking at replacing her 2020 Ford Explorer Platinum and the Ascent w/Touring Package keeps coming to the top of her list.
@stshooter1
@stshooter1 Жыл бұрын
Bought a new 2021 Subaru Ascent, have 31K miles now with highway driving consistently average between 31 and 32 mpg. Used to have a 2019 Forester and even though the Ascent is guite a bit heavier than the Forester the mileage not much less.
@jonpye8655
@jonpye8655 Ай бұрын
Hello, does your state require ethanol in your gasoline? I have an ascent and get around 25 mpg hand calculated. My state has like 10 % ethanol in our gas which lowers fuel economy.
@maxkronyak5385
@maxkronyak5385 Жыл бұрын
10k price different if you want a highlander with all of the amenities the top trim Ascent has. That's what sold me on the Ascent. The Onyx limited looks great.
@marceljohnson2215
@marceljohnson2215 Жыл бұрын
I’m about to buy a Subaru Ascent Touring. For all the features it has at the price, better value than 4Runner and Highlander. 4Runner more capable off-road sure but I don’t do a lot of that just want something that comfortable handles bad weather whenever I see it
@fredharvey2720
@fredharvey2720 Жыл бұрын
You'll love it.
@David-qj1po
@David-qj1po Жыл бұрын
The symmetrical and is awesome, I own a 2019 subaru outback and she handle very well in snow and ice especially going up steep hills. My Subaru outback is fantastic on gas very fuel efficient and extremely reliable, I am extremely satisfied
@denisfrolov242
@denisfrolov242 Жыл бұрын
Subaru all day everyday day. Lighter, faster, ground clearance, softnesses, comfort, suspension articulation/travel while staying not boaty. And 10 grand cheeper on average. So what Toyota?
@youknowme...1840
@youknowme...1840 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever experienced an engine oil leak? Subaru (boxer engine ) often happens after a few years or after 60000km.
@chasesantos4353
@chasesantos4353 6 ай бұрын
​@@youknowme...1840135k miles on our Subaru and no oil leaks!
@tritip1102
@tritip1102 9 ай бұрын
Great explanation on AWD between both.
@kd9419
@kd9419 Жыл бұрын
These reviews are so well done 👏🏻
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@elrafii11
@elrafii11 10 ай бұрын
To add on to the drive monitoring system, the Subaru Ascent has the option of having up to five profiles. It will scan your face as your sitting down and automatically detect whoa driving the vehicle. Also, for the wireless charge, it is an option on the Ascent.
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 Жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the body style of the Subaru. I wish you would have put the back seat down and checked the cargo for camping/sleeping in the car. I'm curious as to whether or not my impression of the Subaru bodystyle being functional as well as (to me) attractive is accurate. As for the AWD system, they both would probably be functional enough,but I think I like the Subaru's even better. Having said all of that, I don't think I would be ashamed of either one. I just think I would like the Subaru even better.
@jlud78
@jlud78 Жыл бұрын
Traded a 23 Outback Wilderness for a 23 Wrangler unlimited Sahara. Other than the removable top it felt like I moved backwards. Jeep was great as a “toy” but hated kids driving it as it has zero, repeat zero safety technology features. Since my plans for a separate kids car changed, traded the jeep in for a brand new Ascent Onyx Limited. Right away got that same “planted” feel the Outback had. Interior adjustments, room, features all blow away the Wrangler. Add in all the safety tech and a 3rd row as a bonus and although I can’t take the top off it’s 10x more practical and safer for my kids to use.
@True_Dad
@True_Dad Жыл бұрын
My Dad has a 20 Ascent and I had a 17 Explorer from new. I wanted another Explorer but they’re only 7 seater and they he initial crash tests worried me too much to consider putting my family in. I looked at Ascents and they are great initial value, they drive well and undeniably beat the competition on a dollar to dollar purchase price. That said, although I thought I’d walk away with an Ascent, the transmission issues (my Dad has had them since new also) worried me enough that when the turbo Highlander came out, I walked away with an LE Highlander instead. The MPG is better than estimated on the freeway, I get 30+ all the time if I touch the freeway. That’s crazy! I also have more faith in the 8speed auto that the Highlander has. So I do think that if you’re only going to keep your vehicle short term, the Ascent is superior and better value. I don’t that I’ll keep my Highlander long term, but I know that if I do I should be better off. I ended up buying a 23 for lots of reasons, but the dealership experience was vastly better at my local Toyota dealer than my Subaru dealer. El Cajon Subaru is a total joke and treated me (Father of 4 and had 2 with me when I went in) like trash. As if it was a privilege for me to be there. The Toyota of El Cajon dealer directly across the way treated me well and actually were willing to make a deal. The Subaru dealer was awful. That made a big difference. I will look at explorers again in future, because we loved ours and it was a reliable work horse, but just not this generation due to higher price and bad initial crash test results.
@danichicago9140
@danichicago9140 Жыл бұрын
The AWD system doesn't matter after the trans detonates or the head gaskets give up the ghost.
@josephdulsky3812
@josephdulsky3812 Ай бұрын
Own a 2015 Impreza Sedan Limited 95k miles, best car I've ever had. Head gasket blew last night, quart of oil in my coolant tank typing this now. Can't say I'll be looking at Subaru next.
@davescott1491
@davescott1491 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review. I wonder which will be more reliable over 8 years. And will the turbos fail in time?
@jamesfronte8318
@jamesfronte8318 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your entire video comparison except the part about the wireless charger. Subaru makes it an accessory even on the top trim Ascent (Touring here in the USA). To add the wireless charger port cost $345 and the dealer can do it at delivery so while not a standard feature as it should be on the top level trim, it can be added for minimal cost. In addition, I. Florida where I live, you can buy a $51k MSRP Ascent Touring for 10% off the MSRP all day long as I just bought two last month in March. People seem to be more concerned about gas mileage vs safety with all the rain we get during summer here in Florida. I will take a safer vehicle for much less money all day long over the Toyota as it will take me years to overcome the fuel cost difference and I can't buy any Highlander for 10% under the MSRP where I live. Great video otherwise!
@papapaul226
@papapaul226 Жыл бұрын
Hi, James. I am from Florida as well. Where can I get 10% off msrp. I am looking for 2023 Ascent as well. What dealership did you go to. Thanks.
@jamesfronte8318
@jamesfronte8318 Жыл бұрын
@@papapaul226 Subaru of Jacksonville. Salesman is Steven Barba. Great guy and no pressure sales tactics. Good luck!
@minnybiker4505
@minnybiker4505 9 ай бұрын
I've been a Toyota fan since i started researching cars at 14. Reliability was the key to that. I just bought my first Subaru (a '23 Outback Limited. Wanted the Ascent, love that sunroof, the Dark Mahogany Pearl with brown leather interior! Just couldn't afford it and the garage would have been too tight). If the reliability ends up being similar to Toyota, i think i found my new brand. I really like driving this thing! 19k miles in the first year. Only issue has been some rattling noise in the roof, but they have fixed that. We'll see if anything else comes up over time. Nice job, Subaru!
@josephdulsky3812
@josephdulsky3812 Ай бұрын
I've owned 2 Subaru's, my head gasket just blew on my 2015 Impreza last night, 95k miles. Unfortunately they're not as reliable as I thought, I might be going with the Toyota next
@kencburgett
@kencburgett Жыл бұрын
Great video! Can you comment on which one has a more comfortable front row passenger seat? Comfort on the seat bottom is a priority for my wife.
@CheepKeep
@CheepKeep 8 ай бұрын
I work for Subaru. The Subaru actually takes regular 87 gas where the Toyota takes premium gas so that makes up for the gas problem. Also 2024. We do have a wireless charger.
@jimmyglea
@jimmyglea Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned one Toyota. My wife and I are on our 7th (her Impreza) and 8th (my WRX) Subaru. I throw the Rex around in the Utah dirt and Colorado mountain snow on the same day without thinking twice.
@EdwardSadzewicz
@EdwardSadzewicz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Loving the accent
@Theginamclaughlin
@Theginamclaughlin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much guys!! Super helpful!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@TheRasta4ri
@TheRasta4ri 6 ай бұрын
Would like to of also seen this test done with a acura super handling awd very revealing interms of how longer the Toyota took too react
@peterbaxter6615
@peterbaxter6615 11 ай бұрын
Interesting test guys, particularly the AWD on rollers. Of course, Subaru has had superior AWD systems for decades and it has been refined and bullet proof. One thing you didn't mention on the road test is the excellent ride of the Ascent, rated highly by Consumer Reports and, I can attest to that. The Highlander is well accepted by the public but, as mentioned, is too highly priced yet a great product. Well done fellows.
@josephdulsky3812
@josephdulsky3812 Ай бұрын
Not bulletproof, my Impreza with 95k miles just blew a head gasket coming home last night
@kungdu
@kungdu Жыл бұрын
I have a Subaru Ascent although it sucks up for gas its fine. Its almost like v6. But you dont know what kind of scenario you'll be in one sec makes a big difference especially when you have little ones in the car.
@robertduklus6555
@robertduklus6555 Жыл бұрын
interior on subaru much nicer, seatbottoms in the highlander are way to short, used to have thigh extention like subaru in previous gen, not anymore. on long trips those seats are no comfortable if you have long legs
@robqwertyuipp8750
@robqwertyuipp8750 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. Toyota seems marked to shorter people , at 6,2 it is not very comfortable. As well the armrest on the door is too low !
@MrMountainJohn
@MrMountainJohn 22 күн бұрын
My third Subaru Ascent 2024. Best AWD SUV for the money!!
@janhencely5671
@janhencely5671 Жыл бұрын
We just bought a 2022 Subaru Ascent Limited. Love it! Tried several SUV’s and this car ticked all our boxes.
@mbbrokerage8505
@mbbrokerage8505 11 ай бұрын
I am in the exact same situation this week. I teat drive the Ascent, the Highlander XLE and the Atlas V6. Still undecided but leaning towards the Subaru. Also, the one I like is a CPO from the dealership that carries a 100K miles extended warranty. Hard to beat that.
@richnichols9135
@richnichols9135 Жыл бұрын
Actually, you skewed the outcome of this test. The rollers for the Subaru test are not aligned with the front tires. They are both pointed outward which hinders them from rolling and gives the tires some traction. In the Toyota test they are perfectly aligned with the front tires which starts them rolling right away. An initial scene shows the driver side roller angled, but for the test itself, the Toyota rollers are perfectly aligned. The Subarus are great vehicles in the snow, but gee, do a fair test.
@Fadic4
@Fadic4 Жыл бұрын
The best front based full time AWD system is SH-AWD(Acura) and i-VTM4 in the Passport/Pilot/Ridgeline. They can send 70% of power to the rear under some conditions and 100% of that power can go to either, the left rear or right rear tire using a torque vectoring rear differential. This also helps a lot with handling, not just low traction situations.
@the_jarmel
@the_jarmel Жыл бұрын
Great job guys 👏👏👏.....HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE.....
@KYIV0482
@KYIV0482 Жыл бұрын
Like your reviews man👍
@bushwakka007
@bushwakka007 4 ай бұрын
This is a really cool demo to show the difference between full-time awd and reactive AWD. However what it doesn't show is the comparison of brake activated torque vectoring vs the dynamic torque vectoring...that would also be interesting. Mitsubishi AYC system dominated Subaru's in virtually all the recent WRCs before they dropped out because of that and also shown in the top gear track testing through the years. What that means is that Subaru's symmetrical AWD system doesn't make it a superior system every time just because it's symmetrical....there are a lot of other factors and systems that can offer more grip on slippery situations even if you're not gunning for pole position.
@kc62474
@kc62474 3 ай бұрын
As a fellow Calorie Challenged individual , I really enjoyed watching the Toyota 3rd row seat exit. Lol! I have a Forrester. I like the Symmetrical AWD system. I can go where I want, when I want.
@dubkayc
@dubkayc Жыл бұрын
Try this with the rollers on the rear wheels and see if it yields the same results. It won’t, just check some of the other channels. Also, this speaks to the limited testing scope as lacking in thoroughness
@beaudwayful
@beaudwayful Жыл бұрын
I loved my Subaru Legacy. I loved my Subaru Outback until its CVT broke to bits. Brilliant AWD system until that point though...
@fredharvey2720
@fredharvey2720 Жыл бұрын
Broke to bits?
@simd510
@simd510 9 ай бұрын
Good thing those issues have been resolved and are irrelevant now
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo Жыл бұрын
14:12 Are those fuel economy numbers as tested, or off the sticker? Because if the latter, then my decades of experience have taught me to completely disregard what companies put out as "EPA numbers".
@gs98999
@gs98999 Жыл бұрын
Those are the EPA numbers. Which are based on a test that has 5 different drive regimes. In my 30ish cars I’ve owned I’ve hit plus/minus 5% EPA on all of them.
@subforceusa694
@subforceusa694 Жыл бұрын
Both are great vehicles. For me I’d choose Toyota and here’s my reasoning. I’ve spoken with mechanics and they’ve all said Subaru parts cost more. My neighbor just replaced his Subaru rear window which cost him $504. More than Toyota and Honda. Also my current Toyota has the original factory brake pads at close to 90k. One axle they are still in the green and the other in the yellow. I’d say their parts just last. From my experience. Also better mpg coupled with cheaper cost over its lifetime. Not knocking Subaru here either though because they’re tough and can be reliable. There’s the old saying, you either swear by them or swear at them. Said about Subaru. I think they are well made. So either is a win to buy. Much better than Ford, Chevy etc.
@jean956
@jean956 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your review. Have an Outback and Crosstreak, love them.
@4x4adventure_pl
@4x4adventure_pl Жыл бұрын
The Ascent's reputation for safety and reliability is truly impressive. Can owners vouch for its performance?
@jimiburns6891
@jimiburns6891 Жыл бұрын
Reputation for reliability? My buddy’s legacy had his tranny go, wheel bearings, and is starting to use oil, all before he hit 70k miles. Left him stranded twice. More like a One trick pony that’s a piece of garbage.
@nicholasminiv
@nicholasminiv Жыл бұрын
Toyota sports mode has Always AWD on. Also Limited and Platinum has real leather seats
@niranjang7245
@niranjang7245 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, am still in a dilemma between ascent and toyota suv, could you please throw some light on ascent reliability especially the transmission and the oil problem it had..will it hold for long if I decided to buy it..anything to be aware in particular?
@youknowme...1840
@youknowme...1840 Жыл бұрын
The Subaru and Toyota systems, I don't know which is better for any case, but you guys did a great test out there. The only concern is the Boxer engine oil leak, which costs you a lot.
@BaldKiwi117
@BaldKiwi117 Жыл бұрын
You keep spamming this engine oil leak thing but it's not really a concern with modern subarus
@jimiburns6891
@jimiburns6891 Жыл бұрын
That’s true, you just have to worry about the CVT blowing now.
@nickstrucely1704
@nickstrucely1704 29 күн бұрын
@@jimiburns6891 I sell Subarus. I can't remember the hearing about a CVT blowing out. Most people can tell the difference. Subaru has faux shift points built into the system.
@HyperSarcasticAvocado
@HyperSarcasticAvocado 11 ай бұрын
I want the fuel savings with the toyota so my children can have a bit more inheritance when I slide off the road
@teresahunt7649
@teresahunt7649 7 ай бұрын
Love my Ascent. Most bang for buck too. Also favor my CD player! 2021.
@Lefix000
@Lefix000 5 сағат бұрын
The Toyota torque vectoring rear diff is more advanced than Subarus system, but I think if comes down to if you like the way it handles. I’ve owned a Subaru Forester 3rd generation, and I can tell you at least back then compared with other cuv suv of the time, nothing handles like the forester in snow. In packed snow covered road the forester does exactly as you intend.And although it doesn’t have a rear bias like more sophisticated awd systems, you can absolutely use gentle brake and steering input to pitch it into a corner and get a very optimal slip angle on all 4 wheels and hold it all the way thru the corner, it’s just so easy to drive and when the it handles the way you think that what makes a car safe
@KYIV0482
@KYIV0482 Жыл бұрын
That highlander looks good
@David-qj1po
@David-qj1po Жыл бұрын
In the subaru you will also get a pop-up if you take your hands off steering wheel, it will say keep hands on steering wheel
@evel.1546
@evel.1546 Жыл бұрын
We went with the Ascent for the safety features, and the handle..forget about it!
@Poitierj93
@Poitierj93 11 ай бұрын
I'm a toyota guy. Currently driving a 2022 Highlander. They are comparing the price point of the vehicles but thats still a top of the line Ascent Vs a mid grade Highlander. If you want those extra convenience things Subaru is offering you will need a limited or platinum trim. when i was in the market for my highlander i did test drive the Ascent and its a good drive. i just prefer the power of the V6 (2023 and up will be a 2.4L 4cycliner turbo) and overall quiet comfortable ride it was offering. but i must say this there's not a brand in this world that has a better AWD(does not include 4x4 that's a different system) than Subaru. The closest system Toyota have to Subaru and may be better is if you get a Land Cruiser which can be AWD all the time plus a lot of other all road goodies.
@joseeduardo4327
@joseeduardo4327 Жыл бұрын
Ascent owner here. Toyota looks better and mpg is better. Curious about the fuel injection in highlander vs Subaru DI?
@markb3451
@markb3451 3 ай бұрын
I had both Toyotas and Hondas before getting my first Subaru. I’m never going back.
@patrickmadden7188
@patrickmadden7188 Ай бұрын
Drove both in 2022 and bought the Subaru
@SL-jn4em
@SL-jn4em Жыл бұрын
With my 2021 Ascent, I can usually achieve a fuel efficiency of 8L/100km, or even lower.
@tuan056585
@tuan056585 3 ай бұрын
This Ascent touring also has power Folding side mirrors and 3D view when back up whereas this Highlander XSE trim doesn't, only the platinum trim have it, but then the price will goes North. I'm not a fan of wireless charging. The Ascent have it too but an extra $300 assessory add on option. About safety, I think the Subaru Eyesight is better and more sensitive than Toyota Safety sens. For Interior, I like the brown leather look than red, but that's personal. I owning both Toyota and Subaru, a 2017 Highlander platinum, a 2020 Forester touring and recently bought an 2024 Outback touring. The only thing I don't like about the Ascent is its pricing, but I'm sure Subaru is easier to negotiate at dealer than Toyota.
@Hallowsaw
@Hallowsaw 11 ай бұрын
26 to 29mpg is only a difference of 3180 over 200k miles at $4/gal usd. Idk about in canada but in the us subarus usually have much cheaper insurance. My 2011 legacys insurance with full coverage has the same premium cost as my 2006 toyota matrix. Its gonna work out about evenly between just those two costs alone
@Pickle_Panther
@Pickle_Panther 3 ай бұрын
I owned a 2010 outback with the V4. And now I own a 2008 highlander V6. Both limited editions. My Highlander out preforms my old outback in most areas. But if I were to buy a Subaru or Toyota from the current or last gen, I’d buy a Subaru. The newer highlanders are much less capable than the older ones in my opinion while the Subarus seem to have only gotten better.
@RRr-yl8zr
@RRr-yl8zr 9 ай бұрын
You know... I don't think I imagined it, but the highlander seems to have you guys jammed closer together with their interior?
@joshohmy8998
@joshohmy8998 Жыл бұрын
What about the trunk space in these vehicles with the 3rd row up? And does the Highlander have heated 2nd row seats? I think the Subaru does, right?
@magnoliap5824
@magnoliap5824 Жыл бұрын
There are no 2nd row heated seats in the highlander.
@lopezjosue93
@lopezjosue93 11 ай бұрын
I wish you guys would of added trunk space comparison to this video.
@terryspradling7453
@terryspradling7453 Жыл бұрын
Ascent owner with wireless charging, wireless texting, and wireless android auto as well as wireless Apple play.
@sansinutube
@sansinutube Жыл бұрын
Did you have to turn off TCS on the highlander for the roller test? The Fast Lane Car did the same test without turning TCS off and the highlander failed the test
@nikaward6048
@nikaward6048 11 ай бұрын
hey guys great video, i made my choice. im going for a subaru. thanks for sharing. and teaching
@psav1520
@psav1520 Жыл бұрын
Certain trim levels Subaru has REAR automatic emergency braking. I don't think that Toyota offers it. Huge item for older drivers.
@cecilthecavetroll9743
@cecilthecavetroll9743 6 ай бұрын
No wonder the Forester is so popular with old folks. It’s cheap, safe, and the crossover equivalent of vanilla pudding
@martintokinaga5261
@martintokinaga5261 Жыл бұрын
Will the 2.4 Turbo Highlander feel lighter on the front than the V6 version ?
@BABing-pv5xq
@BABing-pv5xq 8 ай бұрын
Honestly both really good choices. Toyota has its heralded reliability, (not that Subarus aren’t reliable, but a Toyota is a Toyota). It’s worth mentioning that while the Subi has a CVT, it’s chain driven and not belt driven, which is great, also the boxer sits lower in the compartment which helps keep the vehicle stable. They also installed a baffle in the Boxer to prevent that infamous oil sloshing issue they used to have. Add the better price point, I’d vote subi in this case. Love my dead reliable Yotas’, but for the money Subaru wins this one.
@nicholasminiv
@nicholasminiv Жыл бұрын
When comparing apple to Apple use same trims. Limited and Platinum has all the bells and whistles. Limited Platinum will be the same price range as fully loaded Subaru.
@bryana8383
@bryana8383 Жыл бұрын
Highlander hands down. Fuel economy and more durable long term. Get the platinum model which is more plush than the Subaru😊
@brz757
@brz757 Жыл бұрын
What gas mileage did you actually get on the Highlander after driving for a week when you filled up? Our Subaru ascent usually gets around 24 miles per gallon mixed driving to school and back and occasional highway. Road trips pure Highway we rarely get over 25 miles per gallon
@SL-jn4em
@SL-jn4em Жыл бұрын
My 2021 Ascent can do 26 to 31 MPG. 90% on highway. The best one I did was 33 MPG.
@nicholassmith7048
@nicholassmith7048 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if those rollers even rolled. From afar they look rusted solid.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
Oh, they roll.
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