Trudvang Legends Review

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@AngryJoeShow
@AngryJoeShow 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your brutal honesty, always do this. Never change because commentors say they like it. Always stay true to your own opinion and explain exactly why you dislike it. It was very helpful.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much :) Glad it was helpful! We do love a lot of games, but will always say so when we don’t! Also, it looks like this is actually coming from the AngryJoeShow channel, which is kind of crazy! Been following you since the old TGWTG era of the web. Thank you for watching!
@Footrot13
@Footrot13 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t enjoy contradicting you but I found this game just great. I put it in my outdoor fire pit and it ignited on the first match. It provided lots of warmth. It brought my family together as we enjoyed the entertainment, discussion and we laughed so much.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
And the best comment of the year goes to: You 🥳😂😂
@jasong1610
@jasong1610 2 жыл бұрын
In some ways giving a game a bad review means I know you're not affraid to do it so your good reviews feel more truthful.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll always try to be truthful! If we play a bad game that is not really any hyped, we might just skip reviewing it because we have limited time, but we try to review both things we like and not like :) It is more fun to play fun games, so we try to focus on that, and do research before buying games, haha! :D
@chuckm1961
@chuckm1961 2 жыл бұрын
Another way to trust game reviewers ... just a thought ... is to operate with the assumption that they are decent people who tell the truth, unless and until you have clear, direct evidence that they are not.
@dumas8112
@dumas8112 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy I canceled my pledge way back when CMON announced the need to rework the game years back. I would have been soooo disappointed! Thank you for the review.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :) Seems like others are liking it more than us, but I’m guessing that isn’t very hard 😅
@beneisen6982
@beneisen6982 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely not a game for everyone, but I have been enjoying it. The bag mechanic is fun and gives you a bit more control than rolling dice as you'll see how the odds change as you press your luck. Permanent changes to the bags are slow, from items, titles, etc., but if you happen to pass near an air city and need more air, you can grab some and the chronicle points seem easy enough to get. Exhausting takes the place of a re-roll mechanic so you have even more control. Really what makes it shine for me is that it is a relatively quick and simple game for a story driven game. You can get through an adventure in about the same time as a single battle of Gloomhaven, but set up and take down seems a lot faster with Trudvang. The pace of the game is also quick as each phase moves at a player's speed and there isn't much waiting for your turn because the decisions are fairly simple. I also enjoy the legacy-lite aspect of games like this where you can change the rules, game state, etc. without permanently changing the board with destroying components or stickers. I'm not too far into the campaign, but your choices and your actions seem to matter, although I would love to see more individual story-lines depending on which characters your have in play. I do agree that death doesn't seem to have a story-effect. I'm fine with coming back with some penalties, but I would love to see it affect the plot more. Though granted, I also haven't had a character die, so there may be more threat that I just haven't seen yet.
@arcubal
@arcubal 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry you hated the game experience. We loved it so far. It probably requires a more easygoing mindset, one without the mechanically-challenging expectations you may have started out with. Allow me to expand on this. Marvel United was also derided as being one note and too simple cuz it fell into CMONs typical beer & pretzel games (like most of them tbh) but then added variety down the line and now it's really popular. Is that a good practice? No and that's why I don't care for CMONs core boxes typically. But just like Marvel United, Trudvang Legends is different. It's elegant and easy to learn for a reason: it's presenting players with a simple premise: explore and discover. Nothing more. Nothing less. No brainburning decisions, no challenging combat (that's why dying is not an issue), no cliché board gameplay tropes. Playing this game is like playing Tokaido, or what Mythwind promises, or better yet: playing an RPG. Relax and have a good time, wander around the world of Trudvang, make a few decisions and enjoy the view. I have the RPG books of this world so perhaps I'm enjoying this board game more than if I knew nothing about it but the design (although wrong in staggering content variety and complexity by means of the core box and expansions) is honestly refreshing to me. I'll happily play through the remainder of this relaxing game and look forward to the rest of the content. Heck, this is swiftly becoming my favourite game experience of 2022.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
So happy that you are loving it ! 🤩 For me, I don’t need a super hard coop (most of the time I enjoy the easier ones when they are story based), but I need something in the game to grab me. Either the gameplay, the combat or the story. Here, nothing clicked for me, and I found all three of them boring and repetative. Glad you are enjoying it, and I agree with your points, it just didn’t click for us :/
@Linnir
@Linnir 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 10 scenarios in and find I agree with you. I enjoy this game very much. It is a good time watching how the story unfolds. While I understand that most time we are given an illusion of choice, I buy into it wholeheartedly and enjoy the process. So really it depends on what you like, if you want strategic combat and lots of game mechanics , this game is not that. One thing I will say is that the Dimwalker is an essential character for her heal abilities. Also for once a cleric with decent attacks as well!
@dancheston5786
@dancheston5786 2 жыл бұрын
This morning, I received a shipment notification letting me know Trudvang was FINALLY on its way! So happy! Watched your review after work. So sad. Hopefully I'll have better luck with The Isofarian Guard.
@yadayadayada
@yadayadayada 2 жыл бұрын
We're twins. I get my Trudvang on Tuesday and bummed. I also backed Isofarian Guard and continue to get more and more impressed.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
You might like it, so give it a try :) If you are waiting for more story driven games, hopefully they’ll be better! I haven’t looked at Isofarian Guard at all, but I have seen good things here and there!
@1AngelAlita
@1AngelAlita 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, it's just one review. Look at some kickstarter comments, there's some discussion under the link for this review. Some people I know really like the game. No game is for everyone but it sure doesn't seem to be such a disaster as this review suggests.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Always look for more opinions :)
@dancheston5786
@dancheston5786 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings Wait, there are other reviewers? 😃Nah, I've definitely viewed enough of you two to know, as is, this won't be the best experience for me. Instead, I'll sit on it until the extras arrive. By then, I have full confidence that the bgg community will have plenty of tweaks/variants in place, just in case.
@brettpetersen1671
@brettpetersen1671 2 жыл бұрын
I finally played last night, was worried after watching you review, it was really fun. This game ended up being pretty close to what I was hoping for when I backed it, which is a choose your own adventure game mixed with Quacks of Quedlinburg. Honestly, it reminded me a lot of Destinies, which also has minimal punishment for failure. I have decided that most choices they made because of the impossibility of balancing everything. I wish that more of your upgrades could carry over but balancing prevent it. My only real complaint is that the spawning system for enemies should have been designed more flexible so that the game could include expansion monsters. I will wait for wave 2 to see how the system develops. For now I am excited to play C-2.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Super happy to hear you are enjoying it :) It’s always good to hear people like what they bought, even though we might not agree on everything, hehe :D Have fun!
@CB-yh3db
@CB-yh3db 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa…2 brutal reviews I saw this week. The first was the Dice Tower review of the Jurassic Park Legacy game and now this. Well, sometimes “negative reviews” are a good feedback mechanism to the designers. Good review!!!
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, I heard that one was brutal as well. We are waiting for the game, so I’ll try to not view other reviews before we have the chance to play!
@robertaustin6302
@robertaustin6302 2 жыл бұрын
It’s never fun to give a negative review but I really appreciate your honest opinions. Onward!
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :) I’d rather talk about fun games, but these are needed from time to time, hehe!
@mike_heller
@mike_heller 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for killing my FOMO. Ya'll rock!
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Glad it was helpful :D
@vincentvanbeelen837
@vincentvanbeelen837 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty. And now I still have to wait for wave #2 of this kickstarter 😀
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we also have to wait for all the extras 😅
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh, exciting :)
@SigiScsi
@SigiScsi 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your review, Alex! :D
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Have you played this already? What did you think? Thank you for commenting! Sad we didn’t get to meet during the summer :(
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings Not yet...even more excited to after your review :)
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see your review to see if we align or not! 🥳
@edwardwoods8423
@edwardwoods8423 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Just got my copy delivered today. I watched the review. I laughed but was also sad…I went at looked at your reviews of Oltree and Journeys in Middle-Earth to see how our tastes in games compare. Your feelings on those align with mine and so…I was sadder… I too wonder how much the game changed after Eric Lang left CMON. The bag building runes thing seemed like an interesting variant on what Journeys in Middle-Earth does so well. Sorry it seems so half baked here after so long in the oven. Still I will give it a try and see what I think.
@daodasbrot4817
@daodasbrot4817 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, good to know they rated those games. will be a good test. thank a lot.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you’ll like it more than us :) Personally I’d rather go and play new content for Jime every day :p
@diversonArchitect
@diversonArchitect 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I’m curious if you primarily played 2 player or another player count?
@sunnivavarjord
@sunnivavarjord 2 жыл бұрын
2 players! We totally forgot to mention that, thank you :)
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
What Sunniva said 🥳
@sarawudkongkiattiwong7806
@sarawudkongkiattiwong7806 2 жыл бұрын
When I first watched your review I was like "Damn, another failed project I backed". So when I got it, I quickly put it to a test. My first play was awful. I play solo with hiredhand. I was annoyed by the combat. I felt that it yield less desiring result than dice. I remembered I needed to combat like 10s something time in a row to defeat one group of enemeis and I die like 4-5 times in that combat. After I finish the first play, I think this game is bad. Then I gave it another try, using the same character and start new adventure again. I find it more enjoyable because I know how I should play now. Now I have completed 3 chapters with 4 plays and I think I'm ok with this game. Now I think that by not putting "death" in the game, it means we can keep progress through the story. When I loose a game, I feel like I have to start a new game again and the last game played was a waste of my time (though part of that is because I have many games and things to do so that I found losing or not progressing was a waste for me) So this game always keep progressing and it means more adventure for me. However, I agree that it also means it's not challenging for some. I think the problem is with how limited you can heal yourself. I use the characters who has no healing ability. So it means that no matter how good I play, my characters will be KO anyway. I think it would be better if you can fully heal yourself everytime you go into the village, or slowly healing overtime. Then you can put a serious consequence for losing a combat. Another thing that I'm a bit annoyed is the rune. I find that it take more time to put the rune out of the bag than just throwing dice. There are so many times that I shook the bag and get 3 runes that cannot be used at all. So, I have to slowly took out one rune at a time while shaking the bag. I feel it make the game last longer thatn it should. Other than that i quite enjoy the game. To be honest, I believe that this will be the first long campaign game that I can finish. The set up time is short and everything is managable. I'd like to see how it will turn out when all the expansion come out
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice comment! Glad you gave it another shot, and that it’s more enjoyable for you now :) Have fun!
@teestarbird4478
@teestarbird4478 2 жыл бұрын
Just got mine and unpacked it. Haven't played yet. I will say nowadays if I play a game and it's not good I will just sell immediately. My wife and I did this with Bardsung.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think after playing :) I hope you’ll like it better than us!
@teestarbird4478
@teestarbird4478 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings Played a few adventures (6) with my wife and we agreed we'd rather be playing LoTR: JiME over this. Very light on mechanics and some head scratching design decisions. I put mine up for sale as I don't think the Wave 2 content is going to change the gameplay much.
@marksteelman7747
@marksteelman7747 2 жыл бұрын
Have you looked through the darkness cards? When a player is defeated it says to add the first darkness card to the story board. This can cascade into additional cards should other misfortune befall your party. I’m still optimistic that this game will be fun. We played the first adventure Friday and the three of us really liked it. We intend to play again tonight. It is a light game but we find it entertaining. I think if it as a “play to see what happens game.” We are going to house rule that you can use your exhaust on skill tests because it will increase agency and we didn’t really use our exhaust much in the first game.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
We did not look through the ones we didn’t get to. I am never a fan of that, even though I won’t play the game again, so I should probably do it for review purposes :p Would be very surprised if it changed anything for me, hehe. Glad you enjoyed it, and I hope you’ll continue to do so :D
@marksteelman7747
@marksteelman7747 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings Yeah, it’s not really spoiling it if you don’t intend to play the game anymore. I just know that I want to like the games I back. Like you, I am really frustrated when I want to like it and it just doesn’t deliver for me.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to play good games! The good thing for me, is that when a KS delivers, I usually have no idea what I payed for it, as it’s been so long :p I basically want all games I play to be good, bit sadly I cannot like them all 😅
@JohnClem56
@JohnClem56 2 жыл бұрын
"Who am I? I don't want to play an RPG and not know who I am. 😡😡 I'm the bard. He's a fat man that doesn't wear clothing. That's the only thing I know about the bard!" 🤣🤣 Oh man, I can so feel your frustration that this was so bad your head was going to explode but you had me really laughing with your description of the bard! Sorry for you both having to spend your time playing this as opposed to so many other great games but definitely appreciate you giving your audience the facts about this one. Thanks for that. Here's hoping your next game experience is amazing!
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Super happy that the review gave you entertainment :) That is some parts of why we do this, haha :)
@danielcarlsson615
@danielcarlsson615 2 жыл бұрын
I want this game after your positive and awesome review =)
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Buy ten copies! You’ll need the extras, as you’ll wear them out with all the repeat plays of the canpaign!
@SigiScsi
@SigiScsi 2 жыл бұрын
This may sound strange, but this is one of your best reviews. Authentic, transparent, articulated and funny! Hats of to both of you! Almost every board game reviewer stays diplomatic or doesn't review games they don't like. You trashed the game with passion, but you did it from a passion of anticipating a great game and found a frustrating mess. I have been a long time backer of CMON games, but this was the first one I (gladly) didn't back.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :) I weirdly often find it easier to have more to say about the things I do not like 😅 Glad you enjoyed the review!
@ToboldStoutfoot
@ToboldStoutfoot 2 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for a *good* campaign story game with rather easy rules, I would recommend Lands of Galzyr.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
We just played our first game. Need to play again to see how well I like it! Thanks for the reccomendation :D Have you played through it all? :)
@ToboldStoutfoot
@ToboldStoutfoot 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings I have played a couple of sessions of Lands of Galzyr, but it is sort of an endless game. The “session” length of 7 turns for 2 players is a bit arbitrary, you can just do some minor maintenance at the end and keep playing. Haven’t found any more character-specific quest lines after the first one, but doing the regular quests from the noticeboard is fun too.
@paulkalogeras7333
@paulkalogeras7333 2 жыл бұрын
I.found something great for this game. You take the miniatures and use them in the geaat Trudvang RPG :)
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Good to find use for some of the components ;D
@justanerd1138
@justanerd1138 2 жыл бұрын
Guess I'll have a bunch of cool minis to.use in my next rpg campaign. :)
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
That is a positive thing about the game 😂
@XAncientRelicX
@XAncientRelicX 2 жыл бұрын
We are having a blast with the game so far! Since you guys don't like it, would you be willing to sell the minis out of the box? haha
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying it :) Nothing is better! We already sold the game, hehe 😅
@mrchoochoohead9033
@mrchoochoohead9033 2 жыл бұрын
So glad i cancelled my pledge and backed oathsworn
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
How is Oathsworn? We’ll probably get a copy soon :)
@mrchoochoohead9033
@mrchoochoohead9033 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings its delightful. Ive not gone super in depth into it but for me its a close 2nd to gloomhaven.
@1AngelAlita
@1AngelAlita 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you seem to have missed the fact that Wyrd cards can add Darkness story cards. I didn't inspect those to avoid spoilers but Darkness cards may progress into something bad, maybe. As you said you played just 3 stories, maybe later on there's some interaction depending on the Darkness cards? That would make loosing combat important. Maybe, I don't know, I haven't played the game yet.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
We got a few of the darkness cards (got to the second level I think) Made the combats a bit harder so far, but then again, that sadly doesn’t matter, just likely makes it last longer. Might be something super interesting after you end enough chapters with them, but I really don’t think it would have changed a lot for me. And just to be clear: We always tried to win combat as soon as possible, and to get rid of our wyrd cards!
@ithiltingilinde
@ithiltingilinde 2 жыл бұрын
I played 2 games. I thought " ok the combat system cannot be without meaning like this, I must have missunderstood the rules, lets check on internet. " I arrive here and..well I did not missunderstood the rules. How the hell can you make a game where the all combat system has no meaning at all. You can just skip all combat as they said.....
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
It is weird! I hope we have severly misunderstood something, but I tried checking a few times, and it doesn’t look that way!
@jumpstarthobbies
@jumpstarthobbies 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the review, but this was my first "all-in" kickstarter so i'm super bummed. Hopefully i find it somewhat fun while i wait for the expansions. lol
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hopefully you’ll like it more than we did :)
@echtalion
@echtalion 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing I evaded this, as Paul Bonner's art was trying to lure into the KS...
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the artwork is very nice 😅
@Linnir
@Linnir 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 10 scenarios in and find I disagree with you. I enjoy this game very much. It is a good time watching how the story unfolds. While I understand that most time we are given an illusion of choice, I buy into it wholeheartedly and enjoy the process. So really it depends on what you like, if you want strategic combat and lots of game mechanics , this game is not that. If you want to explore the world of Trudvang you can gain much enjoyment from the process. The story is well crafted and hangs together, I have not found any contradictions. So essentially if you like story based games, give it a go. One thing I will say is that the Dimwalker is an essential character for her heal abilities. Also for once a cleric with decent attacks as well!
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear you’re enjoying it! Nothing is better than that :) Wasn’t for us, but that doesn’t mean it isnt for a lot of other people! Hope you’ll enjoy the rest of your experience, and thank you for watching :D
@patrickrochel9827
@patrickrochel9827 2 жыл бұрын
Two more years trying to make it good? Isn’t it already three freaking years late?!?!?
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
I love that they dared to try to fix it! I’d rather wait a few years and get a good game! Sadly that didn’t happen here!
@daodasbrot4817
@daodasbrot4817 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is realy good of you to not mark you video with something more than review. Thx for telling me it was right to cancel my pladge.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
You think of like a «tagline»? We did try that, but I stopped doing it, haha! Because I am curious, why do you like this better? :) Glad you enjoyed the review!
@daodasbrot4817
@daodasbrot4817 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings First of all to be surprised. Second it tells that you really don't like to make bad reviews. Fair, although important. If you like everything, you like nothing.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind making bad reviews at all, but I am happy we don’t need to to them a lot! I’d rather play games we like, and I try to find out about that before we buy the game. Some times we miss a little, sometimes we miss a lot. And sometimes we’ll play and review even thiught we hate it because our viewers will enjoy it. To be honest, I had a lot of fun filming this review! It’s fun to rant away from time to time, and just let it all out 😅
@daodasbrot4817
@daodasbrot4817 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings Oh, this is good also. if it makes now fun, why doing it. And I also think that companys have responsibility. If they take our money, and for me it would be very much with tax and shipping, the game has to be more than what you toled us.
@TheMartinChronicles
@TheMartinChronicles 2 жыл бұрын
Sooooo.....Not recommended?
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😅
@Andersdkmail
@Andersdkmail 2 жыл бұрын
Sad :( maybe it could work with kids or teenagers who can probably enjoy a generic fantasy story.. What age do you think they could start?
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
I’d rather then play a better game, f.ex Roll Player Adventures. Still not a hard game rules wise, but with so many memorable characters and so on. But yeah, it could work, but there is not a lot of choice, and they might be bored. I would say they could play pretty young, if they are used to playing games, and you’ll be playing with them!
@Dave_W861
@Dave_W861 2 жыл бұрын
The development seemed a mess, I put in a dollar pledge and am so glad I left it there.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
I would have hoped for more. Others seem to enjoy it more than we did, so we’ll see when more reviews comes out!
@Dave_W861
@Dave_W861 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings this makes your review better as it is just your opinion.
@Dave_W861
@Dave_W861 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings this is also the curse of Kickstarter games, you have already paid so you are invested in liking it.
@MerrillWhiteKalEl
@MerrillWhiteKalEl 2 жыл бұрын
It had potential, but failed. Glad I did not back this one. I escaped the frustration.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sounded good!
@entrecruzado
@entrecruzado 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you knew what were you backing at the time. The rune mechanic is almost the same presented during the campaign and the placements on feat cards are not random. Also, there´s a big introductory story (A Fortuitous Adventure) and backgrounds for the characters. It´s ok not liking the game, but come on, there´s a lot of work on a project like this one. There´s nothing? "The fact that Felerion carries the charm of this bunch and has a huge charisma is no surprise to anyone. He has a balanced initial rune composition, lacking a bit in Fire only, which makes utilizing his lute a precious skill."
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
I do look into kickstarters i back, but I usually don’t go super deep into the research when there are games we might want to review. A bit story driven game from CMON is something that should be right up our alley :) Just found the introductionary story you mention, which is part of all the updates of the game, and nowhere in the game. I’m happy it’s there, and would have been happy if I read it before playing, to know something about the characters. I do not think it’s a good place for it, as many many people do no follow along and read all the updates. We review the game as it’s delivered, and sadly it looks like this story is only available if you backed, or randomly went looking in the updates. Still, very happy it is there! But yeah, as the game I got, there was nothing about the characters to know sho they where. And we know, there is tons of work on all project, even ones we do not like, and ones we find worse than most other games. Even the worst game out there has had a lot of work to get puplished. We didn’t like the game, so it would be weird to make a review stating we did :) I’m happy you are liking the game! It always makes me happy, as there are people out there for most games :)
@entrecruzado
@entrecruzado 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings Once I decide to back a project I read all the updates, it´s part of the KS journey for me. Most CMON campaigns are wallet killers for me, so I try to be pretty sure about the outcome. What I wonder is what were you expecting? Something heavier? Gloomhaven-ish? A dice chucker for combat? 👻
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind at all if a story driven game is light or if the gameplay is not the best. Usually the story is the most important to me, but I need something to grab me. Here we got (for us) a boring gameplay loop, boring combat and very bland story, so nothing that could hold me interested or excited! I didn’t really go into it expecting anything special, but I hoped for it to be fun and a good experience :)
@micp4130
@micp4130 2 жыл бұрын
It's completely fair to not like a game and some games certainly deserve negative reviews. That said this review was so steeped in negativity that I have to wonder if you really gave it a fair shot or if you just went into it expecting it to be bad. You can't make someone have fun if they are determined not to and I wonder if that is the case here. Some of your criticism sounds fair while some of it sounds pretty overblown. I have yet to play the game myself so I can't make my own judgement yet, so I will have to return later and determine if your review was fair or not.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Michael! Thank you for the comment, and for taking time to care about the video! Comments like these make me happy :) I absolutely wanted the game to be fun! I was super excited, and even thought it sounded great from the rulebook. We even had a pretty fun time the first time we played, but after that it was downhill for us. Maybe something had changed if we pushed further, but the issues where so big for us that the whole game had to change to make it enjoyable. I really wished it was fun, and for many it will be, but for us it didn’t click! We don’t do many reviews as negative as this, and we probably ranted a bit here and there, but I stand by the critisisms I have for the game! Hope this makes sense :)
@tomlikeabomb6706
@tomlikeabomb6706 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I skipped this one. What are your other favorite games in the genre besides Roll Player Adventures?
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what you mean by the genre! I’ll take it as story driven games ;) Gloomhaven, Detective (the original), Etherfields, Descent (the new one), Time stories, Forgotten Waters ++. Love a good story in a game!
@theearlyresetband
@theearlyresetband 2 жыл бұрын
Oh shoots 😢
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
You might like it, even though it was a huge miss for us :)
@michaelmueller260
@michaelmueller260 2 жыл бұрын
This project was a complete train wreck. But hey, CMON will sell you some worthless NFTs to make it...ummm....better? Anything from these clowns is an instant hard pass.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
I love Blood Rage and I enjoy Rising Sun and Ankh. Played a bit of Zombicide (used to like it), but haven’t played most of their dungeon crawling games. People seems to like most of their games, and I am happy that there are games out there for every kind of gamer :)
@michaelmueller260
@michaelmueller260 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings Absolutely true, there's plenty of games for all tastes. I liked Rising Sun, didn't like Ankh, and absolutely hated Blood Rage. But at this point, it's not even the gameplay that makes their products a pass, it's the actions of the company itself. Trying to bring an NFT scam into boardgaming was the final straw for me.
@john-qz3fu
@john-qz3fu 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the game play with eric lang way back in the day and it looked like crap back then.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like many people like it, but it wasn’t for us!
@koenwijnants6499
@koenwijnants6499 2 жыл бұрын
I played severall adventures now. I liked it. No spoilers but I think you quitted just too early.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Super happy to hear you liked it :) We have loads of great games that are fun from the get go, so if this turns out to be way better later on, it’s sadly too late for me. I can live with missing out on that, but I’m happy others will have more fun than we did :)
@wbeytel
@wbeytel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! I am so glad I refunded this when CMON announced the redesign.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for letting us know 🥳
@Nain1982
@Nain1982 2 жыл бұрын
"I would rather watch the news" rotf
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, glad we can entertain you 🥳
@mysticmouse7983
@mysticmouse7983 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard it was being redesigned after Eric Lang left Cmon I got a refund. Phew...
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t for us! Some people have enjoyed it, but I never think I will!
@mysticmouse7983
@mysticmouse7983 Жыл бұрын
...watched all reviews then picked up a copy for VG price. 😂 I will stroll into trudvang then.
@warpaint9385
@warpaint9385 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me laugh whenever there’s a negative review of a game, people who cancelled or passed come out of the woodwork. They take these reviews as gospel to justify their decision to cancel lol. Did you know what you were buying? I mean your complaining about the Rune mechanic yet that was in the game from the get go, even before the changes. Obviously it’s not for you. I’m sure someone on eBay would happily buy it. By the way I’m not a fanboy of Cmon, far from it. Just making an observation.
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
It will always be easier to be happy with your descision when someone else is! I think that is just human, especially with FOMO being such a big thing for many in modern life. Yes and no to your question! I knew I was backing a cooperative storytelling game, and did probably read about the mechanisms a few years back :) I probably didn’t go super deep! With that said, as I also said in the video, I could have seen past some flaws if there was something good here, but sadly there wasn’t anything to grab us here. I’ve seen many people like it a lot more, which is awesome :) I’d much rather people have fun with the games they buy!
@sunnivavarjord
@sunnivavarjord 2 жыл бұрын
The rune mechanism isn’t the main problem. All the problems become the problem. I enjoyed the combat in the first scenario, but it just starts to get boring/get repetative so fast. It needs a good story to make me care. I can see this core rune-drawing mechanism having potential, but as it stands now it’s not something I enjoy.
@warpaint9385
@warpaint9385 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunnivavarjord I get what your saying but what’s the difference if it’s rolling dice or drawing cards (like JiME) to get an outcome?
@sunnivavarjord
@sunnivavarjord 2 жыл бұрын
@@warpaint9385 drawing tokens from a bag in itself is not worse than drawing cards or rolling dice. For me it’s what you get to do with the tokens that lack excitement. And when you have longer fights (which can potentially get super long, since you cannot die) the prosess of shuffeling the cards over and over, and drawing and returning these tokens again and again, felt like a lacking experience. I don’t mind a simple combat system if the rest of the game was well put together :)
@poppyl2641
@poppyl2641 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Shame on me for kickstarting this one. lol
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
You might still like it! Not all games are for everyone :)
@simong4252
@simong4252 2 жыл бұрын
The fan hype on KS has been almost rabid, I suspect after years of yelling "We Are Trudvang!" it's too late to admit it's manages to be both bland...and a mess 😁
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard! I get it when you back a few games (and backing games isn’t cheap) that you really want to get your moneys worth!
@1AngelAlita
@1AngelAlita 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, let's wait for other reviews, the overall first impressions seem to be quite positive. We will see..
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Watch and read what other people thinks as well :)
@simong4252
@simong4252 2 жыл бұрын
@@1AngelAlita I own it, I was an early bird backer who remained worried but hopeful☹️
@1AngelAlita
@1AngelAlita 2 жыл бұрын
@@simong4252 Hmmm, I'm also early bird.. I want to play only after I paint the minis but now I'm not sure it's worth it. I still hope other reviewers will like the game more.. ;)
@marcymarc1981
@marcymarc1981 Жыл бұрын
Oh eek, this is not good, thanks for saving me money!
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings Жыл бұрын
Not a good one for us! Glad you got something from the video :)
@marcymarc1981
@marcymarc1981 Жыл бұрын
@@BoardGamingRamblings I bought Kanban instead, have you guys tried that? Really crunchy & good!
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings Жыл бұрын
Love Kanban, and especially Kanban EV! Fantastic game 🥳
@johnpanagos5835
@johnpanagos5835 2 жыл бұрын
Lol this fantastic piece of garbage 🤣🤣
@BoardGamingRamblings
@BoardGamingRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, a little slip there 😂😅
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