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[@MrBuketman]

This seems to be a buildup to a follow up season. Tip of the iceberg. I wish Rust and maybe Marty would show up for a cliffhanger, But then we’d have to wait another several years…

[@MrBuketman]

@@dianegreyson8787 Very interesting. Rose sure is a rascal. Not sure if she’s good, or bad.

[@ivaerz4977]

You missed an important detail during the protest the crowd shouts we were here before that's clearly refrence to season 1 when Marty talks to the wife of the killer she says the exact same thing.

[@ericdunayer6687]

When Hank tells Peter that "Blood is blood" before he raises his gun to shoot Danvers, I thought he was appealing to his son to let him to do it, not that he wanted to commit "suicide by cop." That would seem horrible to expect his own son to kill him.

[@Gawanji]

According to the shows creator, Hank didn’t have his finger on the trigger - clearly wanting his son to kill him

[@ericdunayer6687]

@@Gawanji It's a bit confusing -- he tells Peter that "I need your help son" (to kill me or cover up this mess) and "Blood is blood." Also police are trained to keep their finger off the trigger until they are actually ready to fire -- Peter also did not have his finger on the trigger until he actually shot Hank as he pointed the gun at Danvers. But then again, why would Hank admit to Danvers that he moved Annie's body if he intended to kill her? The creators intention might have been for it to be suicide by police but it is a confusing the way it is shot. I thought Hank might have shot himself instead of making his son kill him.

[@Gawanji]

@@ericdunayer6687 - that would take something of a self- responsibility that Hank does not possess

[@SuperRobertoClemente]

@@ericdunayer6687 There are many indications throughout the season that Hank is suicidal-- wracked by guilt, self-hatred and fear of being caught for evidence-tampering with Annie. He's certainly no mastermind of crime or power-- he's a tool of an evil corporation who didn't even get the reward they promised. Initially, his catfishing by the Russian bride seems like it's being played for laughs-- but what if it was his last shred of hope? This would make his final act an attempt to help Danvers' investigation-- he is confirming that Annie's body was moved and that she was killed in the caves.

[@kishwer]

@@SuperRobertoClementehe’s a desperate man but he’s also extremely selfish and abusive. I don’t think he had any good intentions in this scene. Making Peter shoot him was probably the last worst thing he could do to Peter knowing that he had lost control over Peter who was taking Danvers side. It was his last F you to Peter when his attempts to manipulate him with the blood is blood dialogs failed. This is just my opinion, having grown up with terrible parents. I see Peter as a victim because now he’s screwed for life mentally and if Hank was truly a good man he could have just shot himself, sparing Peter his mind and career.

[@mpearse89]

I really loved how this season started and was captivated by it, but it's felt a bit rushed to me these last couple episodes. I think it would have benefitted from 8 episodes.

[@briengakaplan-b1550]

I have yet to watch a 6 episode season of any series that hasn’t felt rushed storywise. 8-10 episodes is definitely the sweet spot. I’m still enjoying this - but I think they’re going to pack a LOT into the final episode.

[@sylviatamieanan4088]

I was thinking about that, I believe Jodie Foster's salary was too high for 8 episodes.

[@sfcSpidey]

i think they just focused on personal drama because they stretch this story too much i think it could be 4 really dense episodes we will see how it ends but i feel a lot of momentum lost and every episode feels the same

[@contraryson4690]

I wonder if the 'slab avalanche' was a nod to the explanation of the incident at the dyatlov pass.

[@contraryson4690]

@@dianegreyson8787 yes, I'm aware its totally different. I'm just saying I wonder if that's where they got 'slab avalanche from'

[@mistyblue8913]

I agree definitely inspired by that and they came to that same conclusion had the same injuries etc

[@xuxon24]

​@@dianegreyson8787 it's not that, it's that the whole dyatlov pass story had so many theories that tried to explain how weird the bodies were found that the whole explanation just being was an avalanche felt like a buzz kill for so many, like it was a cover story like this one seems to be.

[@mcnultyssobercompanion6372]

That was my first thought, actually. My guess is one of the "Night Country" writers read about it when that theory was first proposed a year or two ago. "Slab avalanches" aren't really ever discussed in our culture otherwise. (for what it's worth I think it's the most sensible explanation yet for Dyatlov.)

[@mcnultyssobercompanion6372]

@@xuxon24 Yeah I sincerely understand how a slab avalanche is a considerably less interesting explanation for Dyatlov than "aliens" or "military experiment gone awry". Based on the evidence though it's almost certainly what happened. Reminds me of all this hysteria about alleged "UFO's" that's infected our culture lately, even resulting in Congressional hearings. I get the need certain people have for "UFO's" to be real, but all the footage I've seen can be reasonably debunked. It's usually birds.

[@penyuwan]

Damn haven't heard that Eagle Eye Chery - Save Tonight, at the end credits for almost 30 years.

[@tauaru]

Not sure that was the OG song, sounded like a remix to me....great song though

[@reidyoung298]

LOL yeah definitely a bit far from the original bouncy 90s tune@@tauaru

[@Ed.vulkaum]

I Saw ❤

[@Squee13]

It was a fantastic cover

[@davrosdavros7198]

Any idea who sings the cover?

[@jackgladney]

You ever going to notice the woman with two missing fingers who keeps showing up in the background? You can see her walk up in that clip of the guy talking about the rock you pulled for this video-she’s played by Kathryn Wilder.

[@guelbergoes]

this is so easy, but so easy that it could be just a distraction from the production.

[@Hey_its_just_me_to]

There’s another KZbinr that theorizes that her and her coworker at the factory, who were also cleaners at Tsalal are the killers.

[@TheRealBatCave]

Nope she is the killer​@@guelbergoes

[@Heavenlyvampire]

Is she the same woman who was the domestic abuse victim in the first episode?

[@TheRealBatCave]

@@Heavenlyvampire correct, this is the killer, her and a few other locals, that's it that's all , no Tuttle cult from season 1, no rust, it is all pointless

[@avance1980]

I don’t think the spiral is a cult but a doorway to the afterlife . The symbol has been located in every part of the world

[@kathryncainmadsen5850]

That's right

[@marioargiropoulos7555]

I’m sure the writers were forced to shoehorn season one references. They’ve all been clumsy or even nonsensical. The crooked spiral very specifically was a symbol of a family cult that sacrificed women and children. People familiar with the spiral were people who had experience with the cult. Now it’s here this season… but represents something totally different? Why not just use a different symbol? And although spirals are extremely common in old religions, the crooked spiral is much more distinct. If the spiral doesn’t have anything to do with the Carcosa cult, what are the chances that symbol would be used in the same exact town where the family that runs the Carcosa cult are doing business? And what are the chances that said family has business in the same exact town where Travis Cohle lived, the father of the detective who brought down the Carcosa cult in Louisiana? It’s astronomical.

[@MrCodyRobison]

@@marioargiropoulos7555 I'm with you, this clearly could have been its own series and the Season one stuff just seems like a reskinning of other ideas (kinda how Russ' dad could have literally been...anybody else). Maybe they'll find a way to pull it together, but I'm trying to resist believing there are gonna be any form of answers for the Louisiana, "spiral cult." Oh and neither of the OG stars are gonna show, cuz the executive producer already said so. I still love these videos (Ryan/Doug), cuz I do miss stuff sometimes, but I kinda feel like this is another Mephisto hunt.

[@daleatsoverton9542]

it’s literally a sign human traffickers use to communicate . this is a real fact not a theory it’s sickening

[@marioargiropoulos7555]

@@MrCodyRobison The worst is that we found out in season 3 that the Crooked Spiral cult became national news. Mahershala Ali’s character is asked if he thinks the missing kids in his case could have been victims of the Crooked Spiral Cult. So how the hell do our detectives this season not know what it means? A google search would surely show them it’s a symbol of a Louisiana cult. That won’t happen because it’s clearly not supposed to specifically reference the cult. But then why use it at all?! Especially the amount of times they’ve shown it. I can’t help but feel that this was originally its own horror story that the showrunner was forced to adapt and mold into a True Detective story in the same universe. I’m willing to bet the original version of this story did not even involve policing. The policing aspect and references to season one have been the weakest parts of the show.

[@ishmaelrentz8963]

I wonder where Dominic Pitka, the opening scene hunter of caribou, also Oliver Tegaq's "protector", fits in all of this.

[@malloryjostes2129]

Navarro in full Sedna mode with her hair down

[@TheRealBatCave]

Full nothing mode, it's will just be the cleaning ladies that's it, no explanation of the tuttles, no explanation of the spiral cult. It's a cheap copy of season 1

[@davidcook7758]

Anyone notice Peter give Leah Cheeto Twists when she was in jail? More subtle spiral drops.

[@iolandagirleanu9006]

Twist and shout. Holy F.

[@robi6317]

WOW good call

[@WELYEK]

I'm still not convinced that this show is tied to the Cthulhu myth and the Yellow King that related to the first season. If any supernatural relations, its more close to the Sedna Goddess of the Sea. I saw more clues and symbols relating to Sedna. Especially the drawings in Clark's trailer and the blonde headed girl with missing fingers. Not to mention all the shots and visions of hair of deceased people. My other theory is; the show doesn't any supernatural aspect to it and the town's water from the mine is causing mass hallucinations and deaths, that the Tuttles want covered up.

[@dakotajones674]

The only connection is the spiral and tuuttle but what tuttle? And who in that group knows about carcosa i feel is the question. Why were they or why do they have ties to alaska? All we left off on is edwin tuttle is the governor who didnt get taken down.

[@potterygogo]

Very interesting and I think the water is a key component in this too. However, how could so many people be experiencing the same hallucination (one eyed polar bear, she’s awake, etc.)? Plus… what exactly is the mine mining? Oil? Mineral? Diamonds? What? That has yet to be mentioned.

[@missionman1914]

I think they are talking about the mythos but their making vague references to epic lore without being heavy handed.

[@Scorch428]

There will be nothing supernatural. The hallucinations will be from the mine pollution from whatever theyre illegally mining thats polluting in there. everything else will be coincidence or lightly tied to s1

[@AnaiBendai]

The writer of this season already said there's a direct link to the first season. You don't use the spiral of the Carcosa Cult from Season One if you don't intend it to mean the Carcosa Cult.

[@mgutierrez-xw7kt]

The series also draws inspiration to the real life case of the Dyatlov pass, where some hikers were found dead in the snow in a similar way to the Tsalal scientists. One person was even missing their tongue. It’s been a mystery for years but the most recent theory is a Slab avalanche - also referenced in the show!

[@Slyndan]

The yellow king/blue king feels like a stretch. If that were the case there is too much to fill in that last episode. Even tho im feeling we are getting a ”jazz hands” explanation. Feels more like there is some female group behind it all. The three-fingered crab-lady entered the drycleaners for a reason in the background. Also, her look when she is shown the symbol as she walks away tells me more than enough. Annie got killed by some mine-worker or guard after she found proof of the pollution. Clarke knows what she found and have helped her with her case against the mine, hence why he is scared that the group of females is gonna kill him since they chalk him up as a traitor or whatever. The females flash-freeze the scientists at the crabfactory and dumps them out there in a ritualistic manner. They probably cut the power after getting info from the former tech-guy. Hence is why he left when he heard they were all dead. He didnt belive that they would go through with it but his support of them still shows. She is awake probably means that mother earth is awake, or the spirit of Annie is awake through those others.

[@briengakaplan-b1550]

I like SC breakdowns but a LOT of what says are major stretches lol.

[@aliking8841]

There's just something about those cleaning ladies in epi 1... and the laundromat... and Kayla...

[@reidyoung298]

Agreed! There were some very clear strange looks being given

[@NEnigma777]

I agree. I don’t think they were introduced for no reason. Kayla definitely is on my radar. Something is up with her

[@theinfomorphsguidetothenoo4817]

the freak avalanche explination is what the russian government uses to explain the dyatlov pass mystery

[@Cocogatte24]

Posting for a friend: It's a very compelling argument supported by recent 3-D topographic and climate modelling done independently. Regardless of that, the screenwriters may have been inspired by an earlier theory that the soviets were experimenting with a sound frequency weapon and the hikers were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sound frequency weapons, in theory, depending on intensity, could blow eardrums, scramble brains, make your skin feel like it's on fire, and cause heart attacks. Perhaps Tsalal isn't just drilling ice cores? It's a good cover story because they could do it endlessly for years and no one is interested until they actually stumble onto a mythic perfectly preserved prehistoric micro-organism. They are a pretty secretive group for what sounds like fairly mundane research.

[@theinfomorphsguidetothenoo4817]

@@Cocogatte24 I have heard the sonic weapon theory too, and then ideas connecting it to Havana syndrome. Personally I believe everything and nothing

[@kktaylormade44]

Why do everyone think that Navarro shot Wheeler? I think Danvers did it because he was whistling Twist and Shout

[@Scorch428]

Does it matter? I guess I assume Liz did because she was way more freaked out about going to jail and dropping the case.

[@gwvaio]

Danvers definitely did it. It’s thematically so lame if it’s Navarro

[@JuJiro.]

Yeah Navarro was calm and cool and came up with a plan to get rid of hank and heiss while Liz was freaking out lol but I coulda also see it being like a roles reversed kind of thing and Liz having been the calm cool one during the wheeler case. Either way they have a lot to pull off in 1 episode lol

[@watermelonroks1]

I agree! Also, when she found out her sister died, when she was driving and seen the man who beat his girlfriend in the first episode and decided to pick a fight. BUT it seemed like she wanted to get jumped by them instead of trying to intentionally hurt them. Like she wanted to feel anything other than the feelings she had at that moment. It just doesn't seem to fit her personality to kill someone like that.

[@freakinflax]

Navarro was quick to come up with a solution too after Hank’s death

[@dpitt258]

I enjoy the breakdowns and theory but 100% believe they are stretches and theories that weren’t meant or don’t even exist. I don’t the creators put as much thought in as the breakdowns do

[@matttyler8331]

Blue King Crab is just a type of crab. I don't think it's any more than that. We call them that even that down here in Louisiana

[@reidyoung298]

Louisiana you say... IT'S ALL CONNECTED

[@StrangeNewTube]

Get ready to be wrong

[@user-wd5lb3zl9t]

Incinerator shot looks like a full moon lifting off a city (embers) and becoming day

[@cheekster777]

Great timing, literally just finished watching this episode and your breakdown video drops seconds later. 👍🏻

[@samsmith4554]

bro wtf me aswell

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

I find it interesting that the wheelers case photos were flipped considered weve been dealing with alot of other mirror imagey all season.

[@RealBradMiller]

Yup, and this season is meant to be a mirror to season 1.

[@RealBradMiller]

9:07 Liz is so straightforward, i don't understand why she doesn't just tell Leah the truth, she doesn't want her to end up like Annie K. Also, I love Annie K... I'm so glad she isn't just a victim... She had a life, purpose...

[@zzz7zzz9]

Are you a bot? How can you love the annie character??

[@Hey_its_just_me_to]

@@zzz7zzz9she’s symbolic!

[@torque8899]

I went to Lapland for a couple of weeks one Xmas. And we got 2 hours of sunlight the rest of the day was completely dark with the occasional aurora (amazing but different story) and it is really depressing. An an ice igloo maker called Erik told me his father is from the norther most city of the world (I forget the name) but that region has one of the highest rates of alcoholism, drug abuse and suicide. His theory was because of the long dark winters. It does make you very disoriented waking up dark and going to sleep dark for many hours either side and it’s very oppressive even if you’re surrounded by such a beautiful part of the world. I imagine it’s almost exactly the same in Alaska.

[@RealBradMiller]

​@@dianegreyson8787Okay... That's you though! I hate, hate, hate the cold and dark... It makes me depressed. I think I may enjoy the longer days, since they'd remain relatively cool, the long days down south are brutal, but not depressing as the winters here in Ohio are. It's different for each person, is what I'm saying.

[@gkamericanprincess]

True. I'm in Alaska

[@ivaerz4977]

This show is filmed in Iceland not Alaska

[@gkamericanprincess]

I am commenting on the Torque 8899's post.

[@zzz7zzz9]

I lived in the yukon for years, it's the same. Nobody is depressed about it, it's just winter. In the summer, there's hardly any night. It dorsn't make one super-happy. In fact, it's damn hard to sleep when it's always light.

[@djash7161]

The avalanche is a real life event which happened and created a mystery Dyatlov Pass in late February 1959

[@panasit]

Season Finale: "You know what Peter? Out of everybody here you are the only TRUE DETECTIVE." "Because I'm the only one here actually doing detective work?" "As smart as you are, you need to know when to shut up." *Season 1 theme song plays.

[@mdonohue3059]

Peter did say to Leah how bad hanks dad was to him also. And it's mysterious about the mom

[@islandgyal3730]

Great analysis! Love the dog!!💕💕😊🐶

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Ryan! 𖦹

[@wtfisthis1094]

when they said the scientists died to an avalanche, it reminded me of the Dyatlov Pass incident. I wonder if any inspiration was taken from that event

[@cinsationalcinema1776]

Great use of the song “Into Dust” by Mazzy Star

[@SolidMikeP]

Glad to hear you are doing better man .

[@duffypuppets7800]

Whoa! I just found something. Look at the decoration on the fridge at 6:06 in this video when Ryan's talking about the crab on the wall. Right above the snowflake... It's drawn by the same little kid who made that super disturbing art of the woman with her fingers cut off in episode one. Did they see something in night country? Why would they be there? Or has the set decorator been told to add one to every scene and we've been missing a Where's Waldo game?

[@gobblegobble831]

Was definitely just a directive given to the set designer that won't go anywhere or connect to anything major

[@WELYEK]

Again, more evidence of the Sedna Goddess myth.

[@duffypuppets7800]

I think so too @@gobblegobble831

[@jeds762]

Anyone else catch the full image of the fossil in the wall of the ice caves in the preview for the season finale? Is this the origin of the swirl mark for the warning stones, and ultimately the child killing cult?

[@jeds762]

If so, what’s everyone’s theory on the connection between the two?

[@ButtersCCookie]

Thanks so much.

[@s.d.8016]

Very good job my dude. Thist channel is top👏👌

[@alexgarzaphoto]

Just like season 1, we already have seen the killer. Which one? Well..we're about to find out. Great season!

[@ryanbrets7695]

Blair

[@rodeayabbb2680]

Woody and Matty Ice sharing the screen is just purity. Two masters in the art of good acting

[@scottboyd3838]

The into dust reference is also in the music, Mazzy Star's "Into Dust" is playing

[@onofriocastiglia1680]

I feel like the mine is just storing toxic waste or something in the ice caves.

[@jmchez]

The victims of the Dyatlov Pass disaster were found in the same state as the scientists in the show. The modern analysis of all the evidence points to a slab avalanche that terrorized the hikers and made them run away partly clothed. They then suffered from false heating as the blood rushes to the skin to heat it up while the internal organs are dying. Whether the showrunner for TD S4 will accept the Dyatlov Pass conclusions or call BS on the whole thing remains to be seen.

[@L.L.Cool.T]

I think Prior was Anni’s killer and his dad covered for him. The story about him falling under the ice was a reminder of how Dad has saved Son in the past. When Hank shot Otis, he expected/hoped Prior would side with him since “blood is blood”. “**I** didn’t kill Annie…” I’m still unclear about the scientists’ deaths, this last episode is 90 minutes, so curious to see how this all wraps up!!

[@BelleMoonbeam]

Carcosa and the Spiral is a red herring. Google Sedna, the Inuit Sea Goddess.

[@joytravis1628]

i like the night, i work nights and am awake at night on my nights off, I don't see the sun much and i am better without the sun. being light sensitive, the sun is blinding . if it wasn't for the water problem, i think i'd like Ennis

[@gabrielmurray929]

Surprised no one's commented on the two minute ad at the end done for Breaking Bad.

[@StephanieMarieErvin]

I've never lived in a place like Alaska (or Iceland, where this was filmed) but there's a KZbinr on the archipelago of Svalbard who has shared that she loves living that far north. She's shared that the polar night and polar day can be rough, but it's about how you approach them. She shared that polar night, which is about 3 months or so of darkness, is better if you have a structured routine and get outside enough, otherwise your body just wants to sleep for as long as it can. That's not necessarily easy for everyone, but I think going in to this story with the mindset, and that quote, set us all up for a very different expectation of a story that takes place during a long night.

[@TheJaker5]

The entire series is about detectives/cops obsessed with solving cases that always take years to solve at the cost of their own personal lives. If the spiral 🌀 represents anything, then THAT is definitely one meaning! It’s weird nobody seems to mention that. Sure there have been in-universe explanations like what the guy said about it being a warning for unstable ice, but 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Vishanti]

Bro keeps trying to make Cthulhu happen. This is just like people trying to make Mephisto happen when WandaVision aired😂

[@Akuroxradio]

oh yeah !

[@gkamericanprincess]

Excellent Season 4. Very good

[@Scorch428]

My guess for the hangman words is: Cold Case but it could be COLD CAVE too Maybe thats a hint the case wont be solved, but i doubt it

[@spuddy7011]

I like how with the constant darkness, the time of day isn’t the focus

[@phatkiddre]

What are your thoughts about Navarro walking out into the ocean in a trance? And she heard voices again...

[@daleatsoverton9542]

when the tattoo artist says that Annie seen the cross in a dream i think they’ll probably show us the she seen the same thins that Rust seen when he was in Carcosa

[@bobbfredd]

I have been randomly re watchinng History's Greatest Mysteries on History channel .. some maybe pallete ffrom Season 3 eepisode 3 The Dyatlov Pass Incident .. not so much the mian details of either but more .. what the hell happen to these frozen people .. some actually great x files than melded with real world ... love your vids !

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

I hope they dont go the route of navarro being the killer because that is historically one of the worst tropes a writer can do it was the protagonist the whole time.

[@fernandizesimmons1528]

What happened I thought I was in Carcozo I could’ve sworn the video dropped and then cut off lol 😂

[@user-fm6rj2bk5c]

We don’t know how to solve this mystery, Oh here, a random person took a photo to lead you where you need to look. Links the mine and tsala are connected next scene, bad guys confessing working together 😹😹😹 Hank “oh btw I didn’t kill her, just moved the body” What a season

[@marioargiropoulos7555]

The Spiral Cult is not reminiscent of a Satanic cult because there is no such thing as a Satanic cult, especially one that harms or sacrifices people. It’s important to make that distinction: it’s reminiscent of the made up stories Christians would tell about alleged “satanists”, who were really just people of other religions but even more often just fellow Christians. Satanists are just anti-theists. They don’t actually believe in God or Satan. They just use Satan as a metaphor for their rebellion against Christianity. Basically… edgy theatrical atheists. Nic Pizzolatto specifically chose the Yellow King because he didn’t want to demonize any actual pagan/occult beliefs that some people still hold today. So he thought of the creepiest fictional character he could think of and chose The Yellow King.

[@jeffd.3883]

When the dog said "is that a vape?" I lost it 🤣

[@anony-mousse8487]

I don't understand why they don't just Google the spiral symbol and see that's its widely used as a cult symbol

[@iolandagirleanu9006]

Boy lover as per FBI files

[@andrewmcquade9413]

I think it was a slab avalanche, and it was just a way to get the Annie K case back to the fold.

[@productofapathy]

When it comes to the game of hangman i always assumed whoever was in the cell was playing it with a guard

[@NickScaramuzzo]

I think this season is Issa Lopez's take of the H.P. Lovecraft classic, "At the Mountains of Madness". (Sp?)

[@matiasastorga1926]

There was a blue king in the second season, in Ben Casper's house😮

[@jonathanpeck7482]

I need you to bring @thebrimtruth on the channel to discuss this show in advance of the final episode or as a season recap after.

[@djash7161]

The Crab Nebula is connected to the Mine

[@careyezra]

I must say, my favorite thing about this season is your breakdowns of every episode

[@user-hd8ej8yx9p]

My favorite part is when he said it’s night country time and then night countries all over the place

[@ryanbrets7695]

Well that got a barrel of laughs

[@redhousemediala]

Before I go on my rant I just wanted to say I love your videos! They're so spot on and super informative. But now onto the rant! Okay hear me out. PLEEEEASEEEE HEAR ME OUT.👏👏👏 In this episode during the laundromat scene (the actual intro to this very youtube video haha) a girl walks in as a customer doing her laundry while Navarro is talking to Qavvik and his buddy about how he's seen the spiral before and told it was some kind of a warning by his grandma. While they are talking a girl walks in and even makes eye contact with Qavvik's friend and Navarro. Going back to episode 2 when Danvers goes to the "Blue King" crab company to question the employees who clean as a side gig at the Tsalal Station. She asks the older woman about the spiral and then the older woman asks "Blair" (the girl who was abused in episode 1 and Navarro saw to it at the crab company) and she say's no. BUT then walks away with a very odd facial expression that is definitely meant for the viewer to see. It is the same girl. I know it is. She's has to be involved somehow. Please someone back me up here haha.

[@LA-le4dc]

what if they want us to think that it’s her but also what if her red hair is symbolizing a red herring?

[@redhousemediala]

@@LA-le4dc Ouuuuu perhaps so

[@MrCodyRobison]

@@redhousemediala Naw, I think you're on to it. She's probably involved in how they were killed and moved. My guess is the rest of the hallucinations will be based on the bad water.

[@johnl5753]

The cleaning lady is in on it. They must have found out that the station was working with mine.

[@redhousemediala]

any thoughts on this @screencrush?

[@isaac.anthony]

I think I read a Lovecraft or similar author where some dark god was like a siren, drawing people to their death? I can't remember, fuzzy memory, seems legit.

[@JayThaInformant]

I'm going back, on my day off and watching the whole series straight! Before the finale!

[@amolbhullar5308]

should’ve called mike ehramantraut to clean the mess at the end!😂

[@jasonlung8463]

There are two shots in episode 3 of Wheeler’s van & house. 1 when Danvers is telling Pete her version of the wheeler story… but a second similar shot in the opening credits there is the same view of the van in the same position BUT it’s shown through a car windshield and the windshield/car appear to have been in a wreck. (The opening credits shot immediately follows the second under water animal skull) Suspicion is Danvers windshield after a drunken wreck. Back to the her telling Pete…, Wheeler whistles Twist and Shout… I think he is taunting Danvers with in something related to the crash that maybe killed her boy and husband and wheeler was connected somehow. Maybe she was drunk, he was drunk and crashed the car killing while that song played on the radio

[@lsmc8909]

The only thing that really annoyed me about this episode was that the day after Navarro gets the hell kicked out of her she doesn’t have a mark on her face. They didn’t even bother to put a little scab or like bruising.

[@bigtim8617]

Rose is a Tuttle; anyone? When Peter takes the bodies there, he will discover Rose has ties to everything.

[@edelmantoamendola]

Gotta be, otherwise all the easter eggs they planted would be incredibly lame.

[@jennybardoville5455]

Could be. She's a well known actress in the UK and I kept wondering she had such a small role

[@sfcSpidey]

rose is rust’s mom?

[@gorey4more837]

​@sfcSpidey I thought Travis, Rust's dad, was Rose's lover? I like the idea of Rose being a Tuttle, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

[@sfcSpidey]

@@gorey4more837 maybe but i’m pretty sure she is rust’s mom then why have that connection but she could still be a tuttle they really need to pay off that link because why have it other than fun easter egg i thought there was promising start but the last episode or 2 has fallen flat i liked 5 more than episode 4 did not like 4 at all

[@daleatsoverton9542]

man season 3 of Walking Dead was one hell of a time . i stopped watching TWD after the war with the Governor & im glad as far as i know i left the series as the masterpiece the first 3 seasons was

[@gregfulton2539]

Another fun take, nice father/son juxta metaphor. So the spiral is a warning not a supernatural, looks like plain human evil again. Who shot Wheeler? Danvers is shown approaching from the left...another egg in this episode is missing-fingers Blair showing up at the laundromat...among friends with a purpose? And no surprise Ted for mayor is dirty, we knew Hank was. Psyched for the finale.

[@acelasanchezdiaz9965]

A polar bear or bears is/are in the caves, and is the reason why the company wanted the body moved, so they cant find the bear o bears. When they say she is awake and get scared they are talking about momma bear.

[@alexanderhaile6196]

Or, you know... It's hot cause it was just incinerated and the metallic urn was sitting within feet of a furnace for an hour.

[@ohwellithappens6905]

What exactly is the "night country"? I understand the 30 days of night, but, symbolically, what is it?

[@samsmith4554]

great breakdown again. how many episodes are there?

[@deeobrien5417]

Six in total… only one left 😢

[@samsmith4554]

i think its been pretty decent so far defo better than 2 but not 3 imo@@deeobrien5417

[@jonl13]

I have a big feeling all the S1 connections are just coincidences and this is just a completely separated story from part 1. No carcosa, yellow king, Tuttle family cult, etc. Just a Tuttle company, the spiral being a hunter marker, and it just being a story of the mining company and Tsalal tweaking pollution reports. With Annie’s boyfriend killing the staff after finding out they killed Annie seeing how much pollution there really was under the ice from the mine.

[@jjjjjjjjj3000]

Would be nice, less pretentious than expected

[@AbuMajeed3957]

Is the yellow king the same as the blue king, or are they two different entities? Please give me any reference about the blue king with links please

[@omnibusrex]

that polar bear has been looking for something. I’m betting it eats somebody by the end of the show. 😮

[@suzzylouloudougherty5237]

I love your doggy looks like mine

[@gabhoule]

I think the words for the "hangman'" game is "Cold feet".

[@Eatpreykill81]

I have a mystery you can solve what is the movie just over Ryans right shoulder in between history of the world and batman begins. Its making my brain itch and its all i can focus on now pls help. Also love the show keep it up.

[@jennifer4bz953]

I love y'all! Thank you for using Dave Grohl dressed as the devil (The Pick of Destiny). I'm a huge Grohl fan!

[@darklord789]

Reminiscent of the Dyatlov Pass incident

[@ericdunayer6687]

I had thought that too after the first episode and found an article in which the creators acknowledged that as one of the inspirations for these season along with the Mary Celeste.

[@coreycito]

Slab Avalanche = Dyatlov Pass incident

[@strangefolk666]

Hank never had his finger on the trigger too

[@samanthab1923]

Those towns are well aware of the toll 24 hr darkness has on the human body & psyche. A lot leave, no alcohol sold, sun beds are good.

[@damianmontero2689]

Whats the song of the credits in this episode? 😭

[@NinaPB]

It’s a version of Save Tonight by Eagle-Eye Cherry, but not sure who made it.

[@penyuwan]

Original singer Eagle Eye Cherry - Save Tonight. This cover I don't know.

[@kikon78]

The end has an extra from the Breaking Bad episode...is it an easter egg? :) I saw another review of the episode that mentions the character of the woman that gets in the laundry being the one they questioned in the first episode. The red hair woman I mean

[@sfcSpidey]

yeah definitely was i noticed it but she has only had that one scene so i didn’t understand why she was there without more info maybe she is a tuttle or childress

[@JohnTorres1987]

It’s the others and wights. This is GRRM’s version of the winds of winter

[@mattgilbert7347]

Poor Otis. I used to be that guy. Clean for going on 25 years apart from one relapse during the worst of Covid & lockdowns, as I had to work when the whole place was shut-in and isolated and the loneliness, pressure, and boredom brought my old frenemy back into my life, but not for long (around 5 months, and I got straight and back on the wagon) and I could so easily have found myself in a situation where I was a convenient mark, patsy, fall-guy or whatever, for some a-hole dirty cop (ACAB, never forget, even the cops who are good *people* are bad - because the job is bad, it makes you bad) and whether that would have been just a short stretch or a deep hole - it's just dumb luck and l never worked jobs that put me too close to centres of industrial, capitalist, or political power. So many of my peers are gone. Nothing to do with any conspiratorial shenanigans (apart from one...but that was never proven), just a sad, boring, cliched passing in apartments, parks, public bathrooms, and so on. RIP Otis. Here's hoping his death wasn't in vain. In a sense, it already made a difference in the exposure and death of Hank. Poor Peter. Goddam that's rough. He's too good a kid to stay a cop.

[@lumu42]

The clothes in the washing machine are in a spiral ... as in the Japanese horror film "the spiral"

[@mjriemen]

Your videos are the only one stalking about a “Blue King”… there is no Blue King Blue King Crabs might have been a nod back to the Yellow King, fine. But there is no King of any kind.

[@ScreenCrush]

Who's the killer?

[@fernandizesimmons1528]

It could be Navaro I think she has DID or the water is causing people to just act out

[@rs5352]

Wrong question! 😊

[@laettner3217]

Blair

[@trisin]

Your mom

[@potterygogo]

Prior killed Annie. His father (Hank) moved the body to protect him. Hank was about to tell Danvers that and then Prior shot him.

[@JebJebJebbers]

Despite what intentions the original creator had, unless he wants to continue the story himself, i think it would be cool if they gave each season to a different creative team to do a season all in the same universe. they can choose to include mythology or have the season be unconnected like season two.

[@MrCodyRobison]

I like that. While I'd had rather this be its own series (Dark Country is a great title unto itself), I'd be down for some unique story-telling under the IP.