How Jonas Vingegaard DESTROYED Tadej Pogačar in Tour de France 2023

[@TrueSportsLore]

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[@mortenkhler4386]

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[@yakobcdiego]

Keep doing these videos pls!

[@jacobpedersen8987]

Jumbo and Jonas played this tour very well, by focusing on making the tour so hard that pogi couldnt recover as well because Jonas needed less watts to complete the stages, and by the last week pogi started to crack.

[@rogerhuston8287]

Certainly helps when Jumbo has 4x the budget.

[@sebkure]

@@rogerhuston8287 That's not even close to being correct. Jumbo is estimated to be around 20-25 mil USD while UAE is around 18-20 mil USD. By far the biggest budget is still Ineos.

[@HolgerDanske874]

@@rogerhuston8287 Pogacar is backed by the horrors of UAE. Why would anybody support such a hell hole team.

[@samm7876]

With or without Jumbo Jonas would still destroy Pogi.

[@cedrickclemente8106]

@@samm7876 and TJV has Sepp Kuss. he was a monster this tour

[@tobiasfrlundjakobsen1342]

That mohoric interview is probably the best ever interview in sports.

[@kasperrieberg3495]

The biggest differents between the two, is that when Tadej attacks, he takes seconds, but when Jonas attacks, he takes minutes

[@anthonyhewson1]

But also look at how jumbo races the rest of his team make it possible for him to take so much time out of everyone on top of his op tallent

[@Whiteside70]

Jonas er for vild.Desværre tror jeg,at Tardej havde sygdom,men bare Jonas holder hans nuværende form,bliver han uslåelig i Touren i 3-4 år endnu.Evandepoel kunne også blive et problem,men Jonas er jo umenneskelig ☮️🙏

[@drazenstefanovic6122]

Man the main difference is that Jonas is just TDF focused rider and Tadej is UCI champ real deal And bro he is 5y younger so let’s see next few years

[@lyftbu983]

@@drazenstefanovic6122It‘s only two years that they are apart. So if no one gets hurt we will witness this wonderful battle for years to come.

[@drazenstefanovic6122]

@@lyftbu983 my mistake yes and this third boy more to come next year

[@captric8237]

I am happy for Jonas. I'm a big fan. But Mahoric has blown away everyone..it will be a winning speech that cannot be defeated for ages to come!!

[@123152467]

Mohorič*

[@dykkerlaus]

at 11:15 , the reason urska zigart said this to pogacar was because she crashed badly in the womens giro donne stage 6, not because pogacar was struggeling

[@litalpeled2055]

I disagree with this analysis: 1. Ice bath is not like a helicopter ride. It’s not that big of a privilege. 2. Jonas spent most of the past 12 months training for the tour, with him completely going under the radar for the second half of 2022. He only did a few races in 2023, mainly to compete with Pogacar. 3. Pogacar did a few races throughout the last 12 months. 4. Jonas trained A LOT for this specific time trial. You could see it in the way he took the turns and cycled in the descent. 5. I think JV’s strategy was for Jonas to ride defensively while staying on Pogacar’s wheel, while he went on attacks. So Pogi would crack on the third week while underestimating the fighting spirit of his main opponent. That’s my take on things

[@ndexer]

Ice Baths have huge health and recovery benefits, every proffesionel athlete in the world uses ice baths.

[@danilo6680]

I’m curious about your points regarding No. 2 and 3. So they both did few races during a 12 month period - and how would that effect the final result? They both rested or what is your point exactly?

[@litalpeled2055]

@@danilo6680 if you practice for a race, you learn its path and prepare accordingly. From what the camera showed in the TT stage- pogi rode strong, but Jonas knew every single twist and turn and knew when to start pedaling all over again.

[@danilo6680]

@@litalpeled2055 you avoided my question, why is that? Knowing the route you are about to race is pure basics dude. Especially a final TT at the TDF. All you’re saying is that Pogi came ill prepared. And I would agree on that - he was arrogant on that front even. So he needs to step up. And finally, let’s not forget who switched bikes, only losers of time at a TT does that - add that to your analysis. Let’s say no. 6

[@tobiasdencker853]

Vingegaard had 15 wins this year

[@Skerrow96]

The point in not having the yellow jersey that early in the tour is not because of media. It’s because your team hast to put in a lot of effort to keep on pacing the peloton to protect the GC lead. However, regarding your statement, Adam (his teammate) took the jersey so they still had to pace and Pogi held the young riders jersey from day one and had to attend on the podium after each race anyways

[@TrueSportsLore]

The pacing on the front is an optional choice you can choose not to do, the media obligations are obligatory otherwise you face fines. It's a bit of a funny one in professional cycling, many things are done because of traditions and not always because it makes sense.

[@Skerrow96]

Anyways, good video

[@TrueSportsLore]

@@Skerrow96 Thank you!

[@anderstauschristensen9184]

9:50 I think it is actually smart of pogacar to take mental breaks because burn out mentally can do much worse than burn out physically

[@TrueSportsLore]

Fair point

[@LilianeMurray]

Fooling around is not the same as a mental break, but it may be a way to release build up adrenalin.

[@squiglemcsquigle8414]

​@@LilianeMurraypogi is a showman vingegaard is a family man both have their own ways to relax

[@Likkivi]

@@squiglemcsquigle8414 He is reserved and seems like a great guy. But he's also boring beyond comprehension. Possibly the worst interviewee in cycling history.

[@squiglemcsquigle8414]

@@Likkivi thats a shit reasn to hate on him

[@PatJennings95]

The pronounciation of Vingegaard 1.08 is almost perfect! Great job!

[@Homievegetable]

Dude is danish no ?

[@peterfireflylund]

@@Homievegetableyes… and yet he has a tendency to say “Vinnegaard”!

[@npa5825]

The Tour 2022 was better. The advantage. The explosive attacks. The unexpected. The total team work. The omnipresent WvA.

[@Octavarium666xyz]

@11:05 is about Stage 5 iirc. He wanted to go home because Urzka fell on Giro d'Italia and ended up in a hospital.

[@jespernrgaardlarsen6467]

What most people tend to neglect is how well TJV and JV have planned the whole Tour. A GT isn't normally won by gaining a few seconds here and there but by sticking to the plan that fits yourself the best. Before going into this years Tour, JV had two stages in mind that could bring him the title: the ITT and the stage after. JV executed the time trial by attacking every corner and every part of the relatively short stage. He has beaten Pogacar in an ITT before - last year he stopped pedalling to secure WVA the victory, so yes, he knows his TT bike. The stage after, he felt was one that was best suited for his capabilities, and that should be hard to beat Pogacar - which he did by several minutes. At the end of the day, it appears that TJV and JV only planned their Tour better, and regardless how things went in week 1 and 2. Keep in mind (also Pogacar!) a GT lasts 3 weeks.

[@stonedage5087]

Vingegaard built an incredible self believe after the win in 22. His team played a huge part on his win in the last tour, but this year he was just flat out stronger than anyone else. He was so strong and so confident, in ways that started to affect pogi's psychologically. Everytime pogačar attacked, Jonas never broke down completely, in stages that favored pogačar. This was a massive boost to vingegaard mental capacity that was already super strong at the start of this tour. By trying everything to Crack vingegaard and never quite succeeded, pogi broke down himself with mental fatigue, which reached a major high point on the trial before the queen stage. More importantly than than the physical preparation, pogačar needs to rebuild himself mentally, prepare himself to endure different challanges throughout the tour and adapt himself to vingegaard's and jumbo's strenghs.

[@marioburs24]

pogi was not 100% physically, after the liege crash.

[@LilianeMurray]

@@marioburs24 The road to hell is paved with bad excuses, maybe he should have stayed home if he was not up to scratch. Never look back, never make excuses, you don't win silver, you loose gold - matter of fact!

[@marioburs24]

@@LilianeMurray what the hell, has hell to do with TDF. Like every other competition, better try and loose, then to don t try at all. Is not like UAE had another option and Pogacar took his place. And not pogi made excuses,was just my response to the initial comment.

[@LilianeMurray]

@@marioburs24 I am well aware that it was you making up excuses for Pogacar, who is a nice guy btw. When I was competing on international level (in a very small sport) we always said, "You are only as good as your last trial" Accept it and get on. If you are ignorant to colloquials, don't blame me.

[@marioburs24]

@@LilianeMurray probably in your very small sport. But in big sports you can t take someones achievements just because he/she had a bad game/day/tour. But this is the ignorant world of today. I don t think Tadej needs my excuses, it was just my opinion. And you say up to scratch🤦🏻‍♂️ he had 2 stage wins, white jersey and second in Yellow, being not 100% phisically, stop talking non sense.

[@BandMtrippin]

Definitely will raise a lot of eyebrows... Jonas power output was off the charts... But to be fair how jonas attacked those corners, he really took some risks, that run was flawless.

[@TobiasCassidy]

Last year I was exited for this Tour now I'm even more exited for next year, didn't think that was possible.

[@TrueSportsLore]

We hope all the big guys show up to play!

[@weybye91]

arent next years tour not even worse as in mountains

[@Gimmesoup88]

Who ever says Vingegaard is using dope, have no idea about who he is and what he stands for - as a fellow Dane I'm proud of seeing what this incredible man can do. Holy moly! Thanks for the video!

[@Strategic_wins]

You really have no idea do you, so is he the only clean rider cos they are all taking stuff, legally doping something that will be illegal in time is still doping. Not doping 😂 😂

[@Gimmesoup88]

@@Strategic_wins Give us the answer then if you are insightful - what are they ALL taking?

[@Gimmesoup88]

@@Strategic_wins Hello are you there? Really need that answer with the claims you make :)

[@Strategic_wins]

@@Gimmesoup88 Its a fact they all dope and its also a fact there is still people stupid enough to think the gains come from the bike upgrades and nutrition, now that is some sort of stupid I cant get my head round, every top athlete dopes and if you dont think so then you are not worthy of my time cos I gave you more than I should here. How do you watch cycling and think VingegaarDopes and Epog are not on the juice 🥤 🥤 💉 💉 😂 😂

[@Gimmesoup88]

​@@Kangh88 Explain how he can take 3 doping test after a race in TDF, and not get caught by the alleged claims you make? I can only wonder who you are a fan of in the cycling world ;)

[@madsottesen2251]

Really good on the pronunciation of Vingegaard! 👍🏼🇩🇰

[@melaniealtenkirch5165]

This will be a great video to come back to in the years to come. It’s already nostalgic!

[@wesleyturner1979]

Jonas rode the total of the stages faster than everyone, that’s how he won by 7 min…

[@marcingluszek632]

Just like Floyd Llandis at stage 17 in 2006 TDF😂😂

[@HolgerDanske874]

@@marcingluszek632 Dopegacar already did half a Landis; after stage 5 he got dropped on a cat 1 climb, but the next day he was riding Col d'Aspin, Tourmalet before sprinting to Cambasque 😂😂😂😂 Luckily the real GT rider won against the fraud

[@BSnicks]

@@marcingluszek632 Floyd Landis rode 1 stage andwas busted. Vingegaard rode 20+ stages without being busted. What is your explanation genius? Riders are tested several times as much now than during Landis' time.

[@marcingluszek632]

@@HolgerDanske874 This whole f*cking sport became a fraud since 90's. It has been turned by UCI into a walking advertisement for ridiculously expensive cycling gear with no regard to sportsmaship. Fuuck it, as long as it sells - you can dope as much as you like. Jonas is better than Pogacar ... better doper. 😂😂 But what really piss me off is fact that there is a lot of idiots who thinks you can win TDF clean. Yaeh and Santa exist, grow up kid. 🤣🤣

[@marcingluszek632]

@@BSnicks And Lance Armstrong rode 7 years without being busted ... 🤣🤣

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Guys the 2024 will go down in history as the most exciting.. Imagine Pogi, Jonas, Primoz and Remco battling it out for 4 different teams. Add in the super domestiques in Yates, Kuss... whoa

[@jenspetersen5865]

Not as exciting now with Vingegaard and Roglic injured

[@clayvianwilliams6125]

​@@jenspetersen5865 to you

[@hjaltesejrasmussen2626]

Wow, honestly one of the only correct pronounciations of the name Vingegaard from an english speaker i have ever heard! Good job 😁

[@THExBLAZEx88]

All of the US commentators say it right…

[@shades2.183]

​@@THExBLAZEx88yeah, no they don't.

[@BSnicks]

Only a Dane says it like that. He must be Danish!

[@patrick40592]

Is the g silent?

[@thomasaktor6867]

@@patrick40592 the first g modifies vin sound (it is basically like wing in english) the second g is a hard g like in guard. The hard part to pronounce for nonnative speakers is the "aard" in the end which has a silent d and a danish vowel, "å=aa" as well as a very danish way of saying the "r" sound.

[@Whiteside70]

Not that iam danish,but what Jonas did this year was superb.After last year,I feared that T.P would be better than Jonas,but the power Jonas get down these pedals is never seen before. Its great to ba a dane 😉🇩🇰☮️🙏

[@Jan-se1nd]

As a Dane and almost by default then also a Vingegaard fan, I can't say I enjoyed all of this Tour. It was just far too nerve-wracking. My heart rate was through the roof sitting still in a sofa watching the telly. Maybe I'm getting more sensitive as I'm getting a bit older or maybe this was just an insane Tour. Maybe both.

[@dylangrantz8124]

I feel sorry for you when he fails a test then

[@Jan-se1nd]

@@dylangrantz8124 Thank you for that perfidious lesson in passive agressiveness. Do take care

[@kieldjen1]

​@@dylangrantz8124What happened to the anglo-saxons with brains? Brexit, election of Trump and now this guy.

[@dylangrantz8124]

@@kieldjen1 what? Me. I use my brain and a pure climber doesn't become the best TT guy in the history of the tour when he stunk up the joint just three seasons ago. No wind tunnel, tactics, waxed chain, huge jockey wheels takes you from 22nd in Denmark to the best the world has ever seen. That is using you brain. Marco sucked at TT until his blood got so thick he had to exercise thru in the middle of the night to not die from doping.

[@Jan-se1nd]

@@dylangrantz8124 Well, context is, well context. Vingegaard came 22nd in the 2019 Danish Champs after coming back from an injury (broken arm, I think) -- a theme in his junior and early senior years after he fractured his femur which rendered all of 2017 more or less a recovery year. And if you look at the years after 2019 you can see he more or less improved his TT skills for each TT as he gained access to better material, coaching, nutrition and he got his anxiety more under control after he and Trine became a couple. That is a part of his development that is key, by the way. Van Poppel once told the story of how he threw up in the bus before his first pro race for Jumbo in 2019; the same reason he lost his 1st place in GC in the Tour Of Pologne in 2019. He won the queen stage and then couldn't sleep the night after. He lost almost 15 minutes on the following stage Now, I know there's nothing I can say that'll temper your opinion of Vingegaard, so I'll just say that there are countless people with more insight into aero and TTs in general than I'll ever have. I also know you've either discounted their arguments/analyses or perhaps more likely have stepped over them on your way to judgement. Either way, I don't really care. The point I'm making, though, is that there were multiple signs of his TT skills and of his career accent. From his vo2max measured as a junior, his climbing of Alpe D'Huez at 16, his record on Coll de Rates when he rode for ColoQuick, the fact he's beaten Pogacar in GT TTs more times than he's come second. His ridiculous aero position while pushing high watts, how dialed in and risk willing he is on TTs (remember last year's TT in the Tour?), the fact he rides best in week 3 TTs where the likes of WvA always drops more watts because of fatigue and so on and so on. But it's great to hear you're attempting to employ your brain -- you know what they say, practise makes perfect. And all though you might have to practise a lot, do keep at it.

[@Jm-uz2ci]

One of the best Tours in years. Congrats to Jonas he and TJV. I’d like to see him go against Pogi when his fully prepared without injuries. Imagine the show they’d put on.

[@TrueSportsLore]

Crazy that people will watch back on the results and think it was an easy win

[@mikkelline11]

You mean last year's Tour? Which Vingegaard also won comfortably?

[@Jm-uz2ci]

@@mikkelline11 I mean this year.

[@mikkelline11]

@@Jm-uz2ci my point is, you must not have watched the Tour last year, then. Pogi was incredibly fit, flying around winning stages left and right, attacking 'till the very last stage, yet Vingegaard STILL won comfortably

[@Jm-uz2ci]

@@mikkelline11 Watched it. TJV killed him tactically in stage 11. UAE was poor vs TJV. I’d prefer this years tour because it was straight Jonas vs Pogi. Thats my opinion. We could talk more about it but we don’t need to If you liked the 022 thats awesome. Wish you all the best.

[@3ichris]

This video was truly amazing! Thank you sir. This has completely summed up my first tour down to a tee. Watched the doc on Netflix and got sucked in to the tour straight after and your videos enhanced my experience over the 23 days. Having pogi and Jonas was an absolute treat and has cemented me as a fan for years to come. Thank you again my man! Thoroughly enjoyed ever piece of content you brought out 🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you and welcome to the best sport on the planet :)

[@dippegalant]

When Vingegaard was 17 and not yet a pro, he had his physique measured by Team Denmark. His heart's efficiency at that age was more than 15% higher than any other Danish rider and on par with the best in the world. Years later, he's improved quite a bit on that and that's why he can produce the numbers and efforts he can.

[@AahFukIt]

Like Indiurain did ?

[@dylangrantz8124]

Yep but that doesn't mean he becomes in three years the best tt rider the tour has ever seen from the 22nd finisher in his national tt championships. He has suckec as a tt rider until the last three tours. Vo2 max doesn't make you a great athlete. It gives you potential doping makes you give unbelievable performances. His tt improvement has been unbelievable

[@dippegalant]

@@dylangrantz8124 He wasn't riding for himself until 2½ years ago. He was a domestique. Just like for instance Froome was before he suddenly was riding for himself. His TT wasn't unbelievable, it was preparation and risk taking combined with Vingegaard always being the best in week 3 due to his enormous capacity to regenerate, as his Vo2 max and heart capacity allows him to. That's why he doesn't even use the (very legal) bicarbonate-treatment his teammates use and swear by. His restitution is so good that he doesn't need it. He doesn't need the ice baths like Pogacar, because his heart is so efficient and one effect of that is him cooling down better and not overheating. His values, performance and development has been checked by scientists. Nothing out of place there. You're just moaning about stuff you don't understand. cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/danish-physiologist-believes-pogacar-and-vingegaard-are-not-doping-armstrong-and-pantani-with-epo-would-blow-them-away-on-long-passes

[@dippegalant]

@@dylangrantz8124 What Grand Tour Palmares did Pogacar have before his sudden rise to fame in 2019 and his podium place in Vuelta d' Espana? None. Also, you claiming that Vingegaard sucked as a time trial rider before, when he actually has a couple of wins in that discipline before he even rode a Grand Tour is laughable. The Danish netional championships has never been his priority and he has never trained for that or to be at his best at that time of year - he actually doesn't participate in them anymore. You know nothing, least of all any facts.

[@dylangrantz8124]

@@dippegalant yep we also had articles in the doping Era that they were clean also. Testing is not the gonna get everyone ever. The fact that in the 2019 tt national championships he finished 22nd and the u23 in 2018 he finished 15th serving nobody but himself tells you his timetrial numbers have gon thru the roof and blows your domestique argument out of the water. Gains from the 22nd best out of demark to the best the world has ever seen in the TDF is unbelievable.

[@Kraniumbrud]

they are both young, I hope we get a Hinault Fignon fight for tours for many many more years, perhaps a new 5 tour win for each?

[@nicocroanhahehe]

This KZbin channel is great and deserves more subscribers. I have been really enjoying these videos!

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you so much!

[@birgittemunch3886]

Stop comparing Vingegaard an Pogacar to assholes like Froome and Armstrong, etc. The youngsters are riding in their own right.

[@dichaelovic]

Yes i never understood why they would give those cheaters any spotlight. Imagine cheating your way to being a multimillionaire, and still be called one of the best.

[@Procprocproc726]

​@@dichaelovic Froome is cheater? 😃😃

[@MrDado937]

We are close to Lanterne Rouge level of content. Very well done. Subscribed!

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you!

[@IronHorsey3]

This is truly outstanding. Content plus context is king. 🤴

[@sx5r]

The chat protocol around 11:10 is misleading. Context: His gf had an accident on the same day and was hospitalized. And yes, she convinced him to continue, but his desire not to was rooted to a significant part in the wish to be with her.

[@deaner6944]

Great video... BUT dont compare Vingegaards way on a bike with Froome... Thats just bad judgement... Thx for a good video :-)

[@cycling_posts6423]

Bro how is the fact that he shot a mini basketball on the rest day relevant to him losing 1:38 in a TT or doing backflips into a pool

[@TrueSportsLore]

It all adds up over 21 stages, ideally you want to be resting at all times you're not racing.

[@andrazgruden3792]

​@@TrueSportsLorethe no prep due to injury....

[@THExBLAZEx88]

@@TrueSportsLorenope, this is wrong lol. Crappy analysis

[@cycling_posts6423]

@@TrueSportsLore ok but.. if he didnt do that you think he wouldnt have lost 6 minutes?? I find that suspicious

[@chrislord7922]

Check the ITT of both riders, Jonas was taking better lines at a greater speed. Clearly he had prepared a lot to attack that stage, they must have tried the bike swap and decided to stick with the TT bike. It was preparation which made the difference

[@andersnielsen6044]

Already back in march, Jonas declared that he would not do a bike swap.

[@cedrickclemente8106]

That Mohoric's interview is Goat. hands down

[@TrueSportsLore]

So emotional!

[@GreyJedi17]

Thank you for your channel and super effort

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thanks for watching!

[@paconavarro5644]

I disagree with the reasoning for why the yellow jersey is tiring to wear. Waiting and media is such a small factor and the front runners do it all the time anyways. It’s the fact that you have to cover and control all the other closer contenders. You have a target on your back.

[@thecoffeeblog]

Cycling fans are the worst fans of any sport, they have been ending cycling careers and are responsible for countless broken bones. If you want to help your favorite rider, the best you could do is stay home.

[@THExBLAZEx88]

Any sport? Have you seen college football fans lmao

[@thecoffeeblog]

@@THExBLAZEx88 Yes, they are a lot more considered though, they end each other's lives without endangering the players' safety.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

Long distance running is mostly won by black people from a certain area in Africa, because they have genes specially suited for running! Vingegaard is a watt-monster able to give extreme amounts of power, as a natural thing. It was known from his early days in his local cycling Club!

[@gianpaulcv6425]

10:43 “if you thought Froome was fast, this guys are faster” it would be nice a video comparison: prime froome vs nowadays riders!

[@brianvadgardritter1242]

1) About Jonas looking at his watts like Froome and 2) calculating w/kilo Listen to what Chris Froome has to say.... Coutch Coaches often, very confidently, get things wrong. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hou7nY2Hbat6gLM at29:08

[@andreasandremyrvold]

4:09 but how did Pogacar ride without a handlebar? Even magic couldn`t save him.

[@danielfessow]

Lol . Hahaha.

[@mongol62]

Came here for salty Pogacar fangirl comments, but the sheer amount of it is almost overwhelming.

[@mochno1]

yeah. Lance still accept people to his fanclub too. Join for more stories like Vingenard :D

[@Recon6delta]

Jonas is the new top dog in cycling 🚴‍♂️! He will win many more titles …

[@papaquonis]

Certainly the top dog of Grand Tours. Tadej is still the best overall rider. No one can match his level in both the one day classics as well as Grand Tours (except maybe Remco, but we'll need to see him going head to head against Jonas and Tadej in the Tour first, before we'll know how far he can go)

[@jakobkristensen5447]

Jonas is great for long tours but not for short classics so idk

[@phamhoanglong717]

@@jakobkristensen5447jonas is durable player but pogi have explosive power 😀

[@weybye91]

i think he might be on the podium in the Vuelta aswell

[@phamhoanglong717]

@@weybye91 primoz are working hard for the tour. Maybe jonas have a little tired by tdf. He will support for primoz

[@EM4N77]

Creating the narrative that Pogacar was fooling around on the rest day and therefore lost time on the TT was kind of lame. You then created the narrative that Pogacar was weak mentally so he lost time on stage 17. You took that quote from two weeks ago. Sometimes you have good days and sometimes you don't, that's just how sports work.

[@wesleygotje6065]

He was fooling around tho, while Vingegaard was busy with the TT for the next day, thats a mentality thing.

[@EM4N77]

@@wesleygotje6065Trying to read in between the lines to create a narrative just doesn't work here. Tadej has one of if not the best mental strength out of any athlete I've seen. One clip of him doing a backflip doesn't show a lack of dedication. It's just him doing a backflip.

[@EM4N77]

@@wesleygotje6065It's too often in sports where an athlete has a bad day and the media starts to pinpoint reasons for that failure. Sometimes your body just feels terrible and you can't explain why. Regardless of the reason, bad days just happen and we shouldn't start to question the athlete's mentality or anything else. He bounced back pretty quickly and it was honestly inspiring when he won stage 20.

[@kuiperrene]

​@@EM4N77look at both riders at the start of the TT. Pogacar looked nervous, was huffing and puffing, had his breathing not under control. Vingegaard was totally focused and in control and was ready to attack

[@Endonix]

@@EM4N77 No but i would guarantee you that if he was at TJV you wouldn’t see him do that. Its kinda like the New England Patriots.

[@williamsamuel7085]

That motorbike moment was extremely annoying

[@Recon6delta]

I think you bringing up Performance enhancing substances is fair ! Just because they are winning doesn’t mean they are automatically cheating!

[@geralt_rivia1974]

its a fair fight coz until now they are all doping 😂

[@nt78stonewobble]

@@geralt_rivia1974 "its a fair fight coz until now they are all doping 😂" Innocent until proven guilty is much preferable to guilty until proven innocent. And if you prefer the first for yourself, maybe you should extend the same courtesy to others.

[@patrickwinther]

GJ on the video! 👌💪

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thanks 🔥

[@Goodladbrother]

I think Jonas will win the tour 8 times so young and allready world best with a good margin. The danish viking is like haaland of cykling

[@Samuel-bu7xr]

1:46 Pogi was having to do that as white jersey holder anyway.

[@uhhFez]

He did it by E-ating P-ineapple O-nly

[@Greatdane-qf8kd]

He gets all the time, and EPO is super easy to detect, so stop talking out of your ass

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

I remember a former Danish Pro cyclist, Niels Henrik Ørsted, who reached the highest condition number measured in Denmark, by then. I'm sure that Vingegaard is able to match that? Those riders are inhuman.

[@Memovox]

Hans-Henrik Ørsted ;) (han er iøvrigt tip-tip oldebarn til H. C. Ørsted).

[@SpurOne76]

What a great team! Superb Director.

[@finlandguy9]

what happened to pogis bike 4:16

[@TrueSportsLore]

Editing mistake lol

[@florinho1994]

lol pogi gets attacked because he is having a bit of fun between stages? Cant image how tough the mental situation is for him. Glad he can relax a bit. Sure thing he is a absolute professional, doing everything it takes, so just let him have a bit of smile on his face.

[@nt78stonewobble]

I think that is an absolutely unfair critique of Pogi... Some people need such things to be at their best or heck.. it is who they are. That's not to say I don't think Pogi can't make improvements, but it's silly to blame the "having fun".

[@larshansen4557]

Agree but then you have to be nummer 2 and remember week 3

[@flyingberserker3965]

I think its more his ego than relaxing, you could relax without recording jumps and water and other stuff. For a quiet guy like jonas, that is more under tge radar that felt like fuel for him to win.

[@r___n___]

This is also Pogacar's first race after a long layoff. Pogacar got gassed out due to ring rush

[@wesleygotje6065]

TJV planned this to the detail (especially the TT) their strategy was to lead the peloton with high tempo and controle the pace while wearing Pogacar out going uphill into the mountains and protecting Jonas from using to much energy during the stages.

[@marianorivera3272]

Wasn't that also the Sky strategy back when they were completely dominating with Froome ? They set the highest pace they knew they could theoretically handle and a lot of attacks from other riders were simply ignored because they knew that the power output needed for a successful attack wasn't sustainable and they'd break (They were correct). Then Froome attacked at an advantageous moment/stage to break the race open with an insurmountable lead.

[@Endonix]

@@marianorivera3272 basically yes

[@corpo_ethereal2744]

That speech by Mohorič sums it up.

[@two20john]

10 months on, Jonas who? It's Pogacar's style, panache, and ability to win anything that makes him one of the all-time greats. We are blessed to watch history in the making.

[@mondociaociao]

Come on, is the Tadej personality! simple, normal, funny, relaxed and always WON A LOT being like this. And he did an awesome TT but Jonas did an alien TT (never watched a TT like that, even his strange movements). For me is more topic to discuss the Jonas performance than the Tadej performance.

[@marktrans235]

Lol of course 😂 Pogacar is clean and Vingegaard isn’t…..

[@mondociaociao]

who talk about clean or not clean? you, not me, I'm not so simple.

[@marktrans235]

You’re clearly try to start this discussion lol…

[@henriknielsen1662]

@@marktrans235 : You are accusing a person of a crime. So am I now: I know you are a serial killer and I have as much evidence as you have for your accusations

[@mondociaociao]

​@@marktrans235 text comprehension course is needed... I SAID is more TOPIC OF DISCUSSION the Jonas performance ABSOLUTE OUT OF NORMAL (could you say no? really?) than Tadej performance. If it's because innovative physical preparation, better position/movements on the bike, better BIKE technology, better nutrition, don't know, but is the really topic of discussion FOR ME.

[@MrMatraiv]

There's nothing to do with Pogi's having fun on a restday. It's his thing, and it's cute to have some journalists who write, what should a pro cyclist do, but man... Pogi won this year's Vuelta Andalucia, Paris-Nice, Ronde, Amstel Gold, La Fleche Wallone, Slovenian ITT and RR jerseys. So I think we can say that, he has something a good of an idea, what to do and how to do it. I mean he put more than 1m onto WVA's ITT run, who is a beast, but Jonas was just stronger than any human being on Earth. Also it is not mentioned , that he crashed and injured seriously on Liege-Bastogne-Liege, which hold him off the bike for 1,5 months in the key time for training for the TdF. You know, that can be a bit of a factor on the third week...

[@kristianv.jensen2456]

Pocagar is like a crown prince, who never really got to be king. How can he - or any one else for that matter - beat Vingegaard and Jumbo Visma?

[@EnteleiEchein]

Pogacar was a king 2020 already, and one of the youngest kings in TDF history ever.

[@kristianv.jensen2456]

@@EnteleiEchein We all thought he was going to be a Tour-King like Hinault back in the days, but he has been beaten twice now. I’ll bet he’ll never win the Tour de France again.

[@EnteleiEchein]

@@kristianv.jensen2456 I bet he will win the tour again, that kid is just 24. You're talking as if he's in his middle 30s.

[@bernardybernardy]

Loved following the tour this year ! Even if in a few years there could be some doping scandals (i hope not), it was still very fun to watch ! 🙌🏻

[@bastaartp7855]

Exactly what Im thinking. Lovely to watch but definitely a bit eyebrow-raising at points. Would not be surprised if the top 10 or so would be caught in future doping tests.

[@cedrickclemente8106]

@@bastaartp7855 its case to case basis on how they consider doping is. example was last year Nairo Quintana which was DQ after a month(?) due to some substance which he denied to be around threashold. but nevertheless, Im happy that this tour has been really great lately and we can see how proper work ethics and handworks payoffs for those riders

[@bobby38bcn11]

We are back to 1992 and I am reading the exact same b.s about Jumbo Vingegaard Pogacar Van Aert than Banesto Indurain Rominger Bernard. Seems people never learn. Nobody can take 9s/km on the pack in an ITT. It's guaranteed the top5 will be erased in the next 10 years. And they will start all over again saying it's a new cyclism, with a clean mentality. Absolute crap

[@slowmotion7478]

Nario vs team sky was epic for a couple years

[@KonnoOC]

I don't think Tadej stopped taking the race seriously. By his attitude and general nature, one can really see he loves to race and sees cycling more as a game. And I would not be surprised if he and his team already knew he was not going to win the tour. So I think he just had more fun in the small moments outside of the race and enjoyed the whole experience instead of focusing 100% on the GC.

[@henriknielsen1662]

Pogacar has many fans who know nothing about cycling

[@knudsandbknielsen1612]

I didn't notice your Danish accent. Until you pronounced Jonas Vingegaard correctly ;-)

[@andreasfiltenborg4952]

97 vO2 max, bruh. I peaked at 62 and i thought that was veering into abnormal territory

[@mochno1]

doable. A bit of EPO or blood transfusion.

[@jesper.schmidt]

@@mochno1 Yeah, Vingegaard would have been into that kind of serious doping as a junior with no pro contract...

[@Lyle_K]

I really look forward to next year and hopefully Pogacar can come back. That fall on 17 looked like it made a big difference.

[@THExBLAZEx88]

You’ve got some awful takes in this video tbh. Did a good job editing and talking about how things panned out, but that’s about it. None of the takes are good.

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thanks for the compliment, which takes didn't you like?

[@andrehufschmid]

The problem is that Tadej loves to attack, which is good and makes the race interesting but he wastes a lot of energy doing so and sprinting for minor things. Of course sprinting for bonus seconds can be important but i feel he does things like that way too often. If he would be more conservative but when he goes then he goes he would have more success. Secondly, putting in so huge attacks puts a lot of strain on your body and even just doing this for seconds will make it more difficult for you to recover. You might get a gap on your opponent but after the attack you need to maintain a certain speed, this is the difficult part, and mostly leads to the chaser getting back on.

[@CARPital]

With saying 'i don't take anything i would not give to my daughter' he implies he is taking something, but something that is safe to take

[@johnnylarsen3225]

What a great tour, Jonas and Jumbo broke down Pogacar mentaly and physical, he got a lot to change before next year if he want to compete with Jonas in 2024

[@Mmmmn520]

9:25 omg leave him alone he’s just having fun

[@andersnielsen6044]

Nope he prepared to loose the tour.. ;)

[@lukasullrich705]

​@@andersnielsen6044before lombardia pogacar also werent serius and still won

[@SimonGlobetrotter]

Denmark is a small flat country, but we have the best mountain bike rider ever, World Champions in men's Handball's last 3 times, same for ladies in the past. Oersted discovered Electricity, Vikings discovered Greenland and America, the best nation in Badminton, and so on like very high ranking in Football, Peter Schmeichel and Mikael Lautrup, and now Rune in Tennis, building the longest immersed tunnel ever to Germany. and this is only mentioning a few - also Niels Bohr the Atom Bomb and Victor Borge and finally Maersk, Lego, and Vestas and the best Royal Family in the World, so we have no inferiority at all, last person Tomas Frank Brentford. Finally, 2 of the best military units in the World, but the best is that Danes in general are humble.

[@antoinemozart243]

Humble.........like you ?

[@felixkhchan]

Why mention Armstrong 😌

[@Hedens_drenge1999]

The pronuoncing of Jonas vingegaard in 1.08 minuts is completely The Way his namensound like in danish good jib

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you

[@TellusJD]

Awesome video!

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thanks!

[@larshansen4557]

There wil always be one at the top , sorry to haters, one have to go faster than the other, maybe you would look atherwise if it was your poggi

[@cphipps1969]

That fan who good out Sepp cost me $85. I placed a $10 bet that would’ve paid back $85 if Sepp was top 10 in the final GC. 😢

[@markflajsner9944]

The cardinal rule of cycling was actually lifted from an old Churchill quote...

[@GotarasNur-zg3qh]

Wats up this year ?

[@ThaGoldsmith]

Flying crane bike guy will forever be rememered as a hero. Imo

[@TrueSportsLore]

Absolute hero

[@cabanford]

Juice.

[@Biolou]

As a Belgian i should dislike pogacar but i can't this guy is true good human beings

[@markflajsner9944]

Doesn't Pogacar look ahead when he wants to make an overtake manoeuvre?? He must have seen the crowds and motorbikes trying to get thru...seems to me a basic tactical error on his part.

[@jeromeponce7829]

this year 2024 tour roglic and kuss absence really felt by visma unlike last year jonas do not need to put so much effort pogi will win this year for sure

[@rickbouwhuis7]

Jonas, in is inside he is so strong thats scary…

[@julianescobar2395]

Comparing armstrong who was a confessed cheater is not a good thing

[@nick1368]

That VO2 is a Myth and not right

[@TellusJD]

Why do you say that, there is a whole article with the trainer stating about the test when it was done on Jonas at the age of 17. It is stated that they tested the whole team, and when Jonas did the test they thought the machine might be broken. But after several test confirmed that it was just jonas that had exceptional numbers. Do you have a source for it being a myth because this one has several witnesses according to several articles.

[@mrsewe417]

Ohhh, another know it all type that knows nothing at all. Please go to bed and sleep it out.

[@luisfelipetrigo]

Your title is misleading, no one is destroyed. Maybe the idea behind the video was good, the execution is not.

[@weybye91]

being within 10 seconds of the yellow jerseym and then get smacked around on 2 stages and lose 7:30 thats a destruction of an opponant

[@dkvikingkd233]

Vingo is the best GT racers in the world!

[@Ettibridget]

Vingo? Is that his nickname now?

[@TriatanSarlis]

⁠@@Ettibridgetno in Denmark we call him “vindegaard” vinde is the danish word of “winning”

[@FluffySnowbear]

0:37 TOO MUCH VOLCANO

[@frodobagins6709]

New rival for sure

[@larshansen4557]

Not New, 3 years now , one of them has been 1 or 2

[@sundown6436]

The saga goes on! Vikings are the s...

[@adrianodesantos4807]

most exciting ever? Was this your first tour? 🤔

[@TrueSportsLore]

You can't deny the first 15 stages were some of the best ever :)

[@JulAlxAU]

UCI is just a pain in the neck!

[@marcus1702]

water free ice 3 usd buket 5 usd

[@bluetics9496]

People seem to have completely forgotten that pogi missed most of his preparations due to injuries

[@weybye91]

yea he might have won but only with a few seconds or lost with a few seconds

[@samuelgalloway7832]

Any thoughts on whether jonas is a drugs cheat or not. Looking at the data on this performance, his watt output on the last climb has only been replicated by known drug cheats and no one else has come close. On top of the fact he’d already done a massive output before that makes it highly unlikely jonas isn’t using anything. And there’s just no way he does that to pog and wout when before the tour he was beaten by one of pogs domestiques in a TT

[@nt78stonewobble]

"Any thoughts on whether jonas is a drugs cheat or not. Looking at the data on this performance, his watt output on the last climb has only been replicated by known drug cheats and no one else has come close. On top of the fact he’d already done a massive output before that makes it highly unlikely jonas isn’t using anything. And there’s just no way he does that to pog and wout when before the tour he was beaten by one of pogs domestiques in a TT" Actually there's 7 partial reasons there's a way to do that. 1. Jonas was more aggressive to the point of gaining 2 seconds on Tadej by the first corner. 2. Jonas cornered better. 3. Jonas descended better. 4. Jonas had a more aerodynamic position, especially after the bike change. 5. Jonas didn't change bikes. Something that cost Tadej at least 15 seconds. 6. Jonas said he did the bike ride of his life. 7. Tadej said he struggled at the end and the day after would break and loose multiple minutes. 8. It was very warm. Something that allegedly Tadej struggles with and Jonas handles quite well. All of those things add up to a significant and fully explainable difference. In 2022 Jonas also beat Tadej in the TT and might even have beat Wout van Aert, if he didn't ride conservatively after that scare on the down hill. Here in 2023 the TT was not as suited to Van Aert and he didn't quite seem to be at the same level as as in 2022. Van Aert's wife was also pregnant and about to give birth plus or minus some days. I think that would affect pretty much anyone to a certain degree (as it should). The better question is why Tadej didn't do better. PS: And then there's that thing about Jonas having the second highest vo2 max ever recorded among athletes, when he was younger, with at least the potential of it being higher now.

[@Aya33-xX]

Any new content for 2024? How Pogacar DESTROYED Jonas in Tour the France 2024