Truing a Wheel on the Locomotive that was Derailed

This is a really cool video showing the very beginning stages of how a
locomotive wheel is trued. This is something that very few people
actually get to see done! It was a first for me also. Put your ear plugs in,
it is pretty noisy as he is doing the truing!
The process of truing resets the wheel profile to one within acceptable
parameters. Both wheels were trued on that axle.
Our #1 locomotive was derailed which caused some serious damage to the
front wheel on it. We had an expert come in and true the wheels on the
first set of the leading truck. In this video I spliced 3 together, actually truing
the wheel, the pile of shavings when it was done, and then show you the
final product.
Here is a link to the FRA specifications to what locomotive and car wheels
must conform to:
www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/C...
There is a playlist on my channel where you can watch all the videos about
the derailment.
/ @ccrx6700

[@Elfnetdesigns]

You are showing people parts of railroading that 90% of railfans never even heard of let alone the general public. Keeps in interesting and educational.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you're enjoying! Appreciate your viewing 👍

[@edjones833]

I was a machinest in my younger days. It never leaves your blood. Thank you for this.

[@ccrx6700]

Your quite welcome Ed. Railroading never leaves your blood either, so I understand what you are saying. Really appreciate your watching and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@ericcoffedgp40]

That is one fascinating operation! I am never disappointed when I watch one of your videos.Thanks for Sharing!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Eric, appreciate the nice comment sir!

[@ericcoffedgp40]

@@ccrx6700 You're very welcome!

[@PlanetMojo]

That was very interesting. Using the traction motor as a lathe and milling the wheel in place - I never would have expected that! I thought they would just swap-out the wheels and send the damaged ones away for machining. The guy doing the work must have world-class hearing protection otherwise he would be deaf in just a few jobs!

[@benniepierce6283]

Your thinking is almost correct for 1970´s technology. Then the wheels, traction motor and journal boxes were removed completely from under the locomotive, taken to the back shop and wheels with axle removed from motor, next taken to the wheel shop, put in a very slow turning lathe, trued, taken back to the motor, reassembled and replaced under and in the locomotive. Quite a few of hard man hours of work. The wheels were not swapped out unless the treads had become too thin to true up and reuse. If that were the case new wheels were bored to fit the axle and away we go but again not a 5 minute job.

[@PlanetMojo]

@@benniepierce6283 I agree, this way is a lot better, and can be done on-site on small railroads without big facilities. You learn something new every other day 😉

[@s0nnyburnett]

I thought that was crazy too, some backyard mechanics tricks but it works and gets it back in service quick.

[@ccrx6700]

You got that right my friend! Appreciate your watching and I was surprised they did this, did not know they had people who would true a wheel in the field, always thought it had to be taken to a special shop

[@kainhall]

its exactly how its going to be running down the track taking the wheel out removes the "error" (tollerances) in the bearings and truck and ETC , this is like balancing the tire while its on your car which NO ONE does

[@brianhickey5949]

An insider view of truing a wheel. They removed quite a bit, but you won't have any vibrations going forward :) I bet the fellow who did the work is a rare individual - well worth the time and money to have him on the job it sounds like. Thank you for this insider stuff - definitely appeals to the engineer in me.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Brian for the nice comment and glad you enjoyed today's show sir!

[@anthonytidey2005]

I understand that the profile if the wheel.is critical to the running of the wheel sets. A issue where class 85 electric locks on the West Coast Main Line were hunting banging the rails and breaking them was solved by correctly profiling the wheel set making then convex so they had a tendency to follow the centre of the rail also adjusting the spring suspension and the bogie dampers. Thanks for the great video.

[@deconteesawyer5758]

Convex would be barrel shape and do the opposite.

[@anthonytidey2005]

@@deconteesawyer5758 ok it might have got the cons mixed up the other one . At St Phillip's marsh in Bristol they have a re treading machine for doing this, now I think obsolete as the Great Western HS125's power units at each end of the train we done there. The wheels on latest engines ect aresolid so you cannot re tyre them, they have to be replaced after a certain number of reprofiling. Unfortunately replaced by Hitachi 800 series diesel electric/electric 25 kV. The are cracking up, jacking points on the aluminium and bogie cracks, they are only a couple of years old? Caused a big problem as they were immediately taken out of service, with little or no replacement being used by about 5 diffrent companies in 3 parents 800, 801 and 802. They had an open day there as I think it was the 50th anniversary of the 43 class diesel engines.

[@ccrx6700]

Very interesting Anthony, thank you for sharing that info, I learned something new!

[@royreynolds108]

The wheel profile is critical as well as the diameters of both wheels on the same axle. The wheel tread is a cone and the angle has to be the same on both wheels.

[@Hathorr1067]

I never thought about making a video of wheel trueing. Just never crossed my mind. I guess it's something railfans would see as neat that we take for granted.

[@ccrx6700]

It is unique and really not anything that a lot of folks know happens. This is the first for us after 40 some odd years so it was special to me. Just happened be in the right place at the right time. Appreciate your viewing the home movie sir

[@Hathorr1067]

@@ccrx6700 It made me realize that, you know, there really are a lot of things we run into that are kinda cool and other people would like to see.

[@ccrx6700]

@@Hathorr1067 👍

[@peteacher52]

The screaming howl of a cutting insert being tortured!

[@ccrx6700]

Reminded me of going to my local dentist and what he used to do to my teeth....LOL Thanks for watching

[@anthonyzizzo4044]

that is one hell of a high and thin flange wheel. use to cut and change wheels in sunnyside yard Long Island City Queens N.Y. When I worked for Amtrak. Also, use to load and unload wheels from tractor-trailers that use to deliver them to us. I Retired 10 years in December from Amtrak.

[@gravelydon7072]

What shift did you work? A friend's private passenger car got its wheels done there in 1997 at 0030 in the morning. 800379, the oldest stainless steel car that meets Amtrak requirements. Former Santa Fe coach 3079 built in 1936.

[@ccrx6700]

Awesome Anthony! thanks for sharing sir

[@alro2434]

@@gravelydon7072 Did't know 'private passenger car' was still a thing.

[@gravelydon7072]

@@alro2434 There are quite a number of them that still are in use. One trip we took had 11 of them as the consist with a mix of both streamlined and heavyweights in the mix. We were the middle car so had the best view of the train.

[@forrestaddy9644]

I've machined loco wheels on sturdy vertical boring mills. The maganese steel used for the tires is about the most difficult to machine material I ever encountered in a diversified 40 year career. The stuff ate the toughest carbide and composite inserts like popcorn and deafened you with the racket in the process. I can't imagine the difficulties truing a powered loco wheel using portable equipment. My hat's off to the guy in the pit.

[@ccrx6700]

Awesome comment sir! Thanks for sharing with us your experience

[@tedbownas2748]

That's cool- never saw a mobile truing setup. The old diesel shop on my railroad had an old-style rotary cutter wheel mill with cutting heads that used a couple hundred little round cutters to profile the wheel. It was noisy and dirty, and took hours and hours to true a car, because it only trued one axle at a time. The new wheel true shop uses wheel lathes that clamp the truck and cut two axles at once, using individual cutters that are tracked across the wheel by computer. It makes an unbelievable squealing sound and throws long ribbons of material like that one. But it's ten times faster; they can cut two or three sets of wheels in a shift. I was the night shift wheel true foreman from about 2006 to 2010.

[@ccrx6700]

Very interesting Ted! Thanks for sharing with us

[@75Bird455]

I've done that on an Alco C-420 in the drop pit. We had that one axle jacked up off of the rail and a welding machine hooked up to the traction motor.

[@ccrx6700]

Awesome! thanks for sharing and for watching sir

[@jackdawg4579]

that was cool, what is even cooler is that the specification is available for free! You have to pay to get national standards here in Australia, and not only do you have to pay, they expire in a short period from when you bought the PDF, so pretty much every time you need to refer to a standard you have to pay again. There is a lot of trees wasted because we print a standard the second we down load it to avoid having to pay the next time we need to refer to it.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Jack for sharing that info with us. Really appreciate your checking out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@mikeznel6048]

Man oh man, that is one interesting process! The wheel looks almost brandy new!!!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you liked it Mike, it was fascinating to me to see that done. Really lucked out being in the right place at the right time

[@campy9712]

I found you two days ago when you came up on my KZbin suggestions. Here I am watching a two year old video. I’m not even a railroad follower but you may have created one. My uncle spent his life in a steel mill in Oakmont PA operating a horizontal lathe making “trucks” for the railroad. He told me all about it back in the late 70’s , he said that they had to match the wheels to within very few thousandths of an inch, each truck had to have two wheels of the almost exact diameter. I really like your videos, I am a new subscriber!

[@ccrx6700]

Great to have you with us Campy and hope you will continue to enjoy the home movies. Yes your uncle was right the profiles on the truck set wheels have to be very close to the same. Thank you for taking the time to write in and to check out the video. May you have a very good day my new friend.

[@rossbryan6102]

LOL THE PORTABLE WHEEL LATHE AT WORK!! LUCKY YOU YOU HAVE A PIT TO WORK IN!! BEEN THERE DONE THAT WITHOUT THE PIT!! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍

[@ccrx6700]

I really felt sorry for that guy had be on his knees to do that, I can't imagine how you could do that for an extended period of time! Thanks for watching and sharing Ross

[@mikeashely8198]

I think you are the only one on KZbin that shows maintenance on the railroad

[@ccrx6700]

I don't know Mike, but seems like folks really enjoy seeing this kind of stuff. We have to thank our lucky stars that the company I work for allows me to do it! I am very thankful to them for that. It comes with some stipulations but most RR's would not allow this kind of stuff to go on.

[@jamestboehm6450]

A lot of the old guys who use old equipment are artists and craftsmen in their own right. Old time knowledge is absolutely invaluable.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment James. We certainly do appreciate your visiting with us and watching the video my friend.

[@TachyonDriver]

Kind of like re-treading a lorry (semi) tyre but done in situ. Thanks for uploading! That's a LOT of swarf from that truing process..

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome, glad you enjoyed viewing the show today

[@thomaseriksson6256]

This is a good Channel for an Electrical Engineer to listen to. No funny stuff just fact.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Thomas, long time ago i used to run this loco, i still see once in awhile operating, but much prefer track maintenance. Appreciate your nice comment 😊

[@thomaseriksson6256]

​@@ccrx6700 It must have been difficult to switch work. I hate my work but I still at it after 30 year of pain and low income.

[@ccrx6700]

@@thomaseriksson6256 runnong train here a really cool job for a couple months, then it's the same thing over and over and same scenery, MOW i get a lot of freedom and get do abig variety of things, much more challenging

[@1stprinceoflite]

Looks like a drum brake being turned in reverse.

[@ericsikma4764]

Pretty neat process of truing those wheels. It's also ingenious with that "beveling" carved into each wheel to act as a sort of "limited slip" as a train rounds curves and such. I mean...SHEESH...That bevel...What a simple yet revolutionary solution. Saw a guy once glue two Dixie Cups together at the drinking end (convex, if you will), then rolled the assembly down a "track" to show how that bevel acted to keep things centered. He then took two more cups and glued the bases together to show the OPPOSITE of that bevel ("concave", if you will). That assembly VERY quickly ran off track EVERY time. TOTAL fail.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed the show Eric. We do appreciate your writing in and for checking out the video sir.

[@donmoore7785]

Tungsten - wow. It was being cut pretty fast. That operation looks something like a lathe, but the rail acts like the bed of the lathe.

[@amtrak1007]

That's exactly what's going on. This process turns the traction motor and wheel assembly with the addition of the cutting tool into a lathe. Pretty stinking cool. I've seen the wheel shop Amtrak has in Chicago, where they can do it on or off the car. First time i've seen a mobile rig. Really impressed!

[@kleetus92]

It's actually tungsten carbide, they're used in a lot of cutters. Very very hard, but a little brittle, so you have to watch you don't smack something and chip them.

[@ccrx6700]

Amazing how something can be so hard, yet brittle, same way with rail! It amazes me

[@shirleyharrington-moore9657]

This show was amazing! Computerized systems are a real gift. I recall watching as you used a computerized system to true the rails. Still, the master's touch can be just what the situation needs. Thank you, Dave, for always responding. It makes watching the videos more honest, more real.

[@ccrx6700]

Very much appreciate your kind words Shirley. Nice to hear my replies mean something to someone. I try and answer every comment from everyone.

[@jonathanhasnip3700]

Nice to be in the workshop with you Dave, thanks very much for taking the time to make this film it's really really appreciated. man he's taken some meat off , fascinating stuff awesome!!!! Hope you're having a good weekend, take care and stay safe

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate your tuning in and watching the video my friend.

[@benniepierce6283]

I was glad to see your video. It was a giant step foward from the way I did it back in the 70´s. Question: Was the tread that was left thick enough for one more truing or is this the last time to cut that wheel? And did he get a final flange contour like the original? I think his cutting tools are called inserts. When they become dull just recycle them whereas what I used were hand ground to the needed contour and were high speed steel, I think. We had a car axle lathe that had automatic feed and you would run it auto til it got close to the fillet, cut the auto feed off and gently move the carriage into the fillet to cut out old metal. Then burnish the journal, outside button and dust guard. Quite different operation because this was to recondition old plain bearing or friction bearing car axles. Had a lot more hot boxes then because of bad cut or journal box packing got between the bearing and journal. Roller bearings have all but eliminated hotboxes of the old days. Old locomotives had the same type bearings at one time too. So did the coal tenders. The computerized wheel truing machine is even a step ahead of what this man does but it also is a permanent set up unlike the portable equipment here. Each has its place and each saves piles of money for the company.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

That's impressive, driving the entire loco into the shop and letting the "barber" fix the wheels. "My" veteran railroad is assembling a wheel lathe they got 30 years ago from a dismissed railroad. It's an impressive machine. It's quite close to running. Then we don't need to pay external companies for the work, and no more costly transports.

[@ccrx6700]

That would be impressive Stefan. We sure don't have the kind of equipment here to take a wheel off nor turn it. So having a guy come in like this was our only option other than changing the entire truck assembly, a very costly procedure.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

@@ccrx6700 Aha, mobile equipment is moved to Your railroad. That makes sense. Having such equipment on Your own looked very costly.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

@@ccrx6700 We got the wheel lathe for free. That released the company from the costs disassembling it and carrying it away... They borrowed our locos to rip ut the tracks....

[@ccrx6700]

@@Stefan_Boerjesson 👍😊

[@johndanaher6371]

Thanks for showing us the procedure. I imagine it was pretty loud in that pit too. Hope to see #1 running the track soon.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome John, the guy wore ear plugs and yes it was! #1 feeling much better and back in revenue service

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

Great documentation of how this process is done.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks and great to hear you enjoyed it sir

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

@@ccrx6700 You are very welcome.

[@missmymountain]

Another great video. Thanks for sharing! I was back in WV visiting family over the weekend and was telling my father and brother about your videos. It turns out my brother (long time in the coal industry) knows the Cumberland Mine and railroad well. He worked in several management capacities for both Alpha and Contura and, though he was based in WV, he made his way up there quite a bit.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks, glad you are enjoying, that's pretty neat about your brother, thanks for sharing

[@raymondsprengelmeyer1278]

Very interesting! It is a great idea to be able to true the wheel without removing it, even spending 4-5 hours has got to be better than removing the wheel. Thank you again for sharing!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Raymond, glad you enjoyed watching sir

[@plemonongahela16]

First i had seen the process. That was probably carbide inserts used to turn the outside diameter of that wheel. As a machinist carbide was the most used cutting material in our shop. That machine was basically a big version of a brake turning lathe.

[@ccrx6700]

The guy told me tungsten carbide bits. Are you from this area? P&LE and Monongahela interchanged bout 25 minutes from here way back

[@joeconoboy4122]

Yes it's an tungsten carbide insert being used to true that wheel

[@jjxtwo1]

That is quite a skill to true by hand. Really fantastic job. I was surprised by how much material was able to be removed from the wheel. Dave you sure bring some amazing content to your channel😁. I'm sorry it took an accident to be able push to see this part but I am glad things are back to normal. See ya next time!

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks Jeff, great to know you liked it. I too was amazed at the pile of shavings! Wow

[@rickprusak9326]

That's great as long as there's a lot of metal meat on the wheel. You don't want to shave metal off a thin wheel, just to get a flat spot gone. Flange height is just as critical when machining a wheel. Sometimes it's easier and safer to replace the whole wheel. Thanks for the great education that you show in your videos.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Rick and we do appreciate your tuning in and checking out the show today my friend. There is a witness ring on the loco wheels and not allowed to cut down below it, this wheel still has about an inch to go before hitting that ring.

[@joekelley1014]

Wow, that was truly awesome to watch! That saved a lot of work and hopefully expense too! Thanks for all the videos! Joe

[@ccrx6700]

it was pretty neat wasn't it Joe. I've never seen that done before. Very much appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@thomaspinnick5796]

One morning I was called over to the locomotive shop by a buddy who said "you need to see this". The mechanics had installed a "true shoe" (my term) on the brake set for one wheel. The wheel overheated and split clear to the axle. Just an all around flop.

[@petezapadka]

I love ridin' the rails with you, Dave! Cool music!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Pete and so glad you enjoyed. We really appreciate your riding track with us today my friend.

[@rickcooper6817]

Thanks Dave! Amazing what a metal lathe can do, enjoyed watching the process. Got to see some wheel work in the steam shop at Tweetsie several years ago. Had a friend who was an engineer there, and always enjoyed going to the shop.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Rick glad you enjoyed the show today

[@mgdurandolo]

You're such a positive guy, love your videos!

[@ccrx6700]

Why thank you for the very nice compliment and for watching 👍

[@tzadik36]

Morning, Mr. ccrx 6700: truing that wheel requires as much patience, perseverance and motor coordination as among the most demanding tasks undertaken by humans. Thank you, sir, for the video, yet another winner among railfanning.

[@ccrx6700]

Yep Robin, he was a professional, I sure wouldn't want to be doing his job. Glad you enjoyed this one sir

[@jeremysmith6200]

Wow that is too cool!! I could watch that all day

[@ccrx6700]

Go right ahead Jeremy! LOL Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed

[@josephpalmieri3095]

Amazing down and dirty action. I'll never look at railroading the same again!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you are enjoying Joseph! Appreciate your watching sir

[@stlfomoco]

Thanks for posting this Dave. One again I learn something about something that I had no idea I wanted to learn about! Your videos are always great and I look forward to the next one!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Mark for the very nice comment, really great to hear you are enjoying sir

[@poppopscarvinshop]

That fellow has done that once or twice!! He's a Damned Good Machinist!! Thanks for the share!!!

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome James, thanks for tuning in and watching the show sir.

[@richardlorenzin6351]

Truly impressive process for truing a wheel ! Thanks again for fascinating and educational video ! Richard from Canada

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Richard, really great to hear you enjoyed the show sir

[@jamestboehm6450]

That was truly interesting. Using the motor as a drive for a lathe like set up. Neat.

[@ccrx6700]

I had never seen that done before either James, just got lucky and happened to be there when he did it. I was amazed like you were also.

[@espeescotty]

Boy, I guess you better have your ear plugs for that job. Get 'em in there 2 deep! Hahahaha! You got 2 "How Do They Do It" shows for one there. Truing train wheels and the making of steel wool. Thanks Dave, happy railroading!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you, appreciate your support and for watching sir, beautiful sky on that last video!

[@espeescotty]

You're welcome Dave. Your videos are educational and entertaining, so always good watching. Thank you for checking mine out too.

[@ccrx6700]

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[@GrandadsLetters]

That was really interesting! Love the “old school” craftsmanship! Thanks for sharing!

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Larry, really good hear you liked today's show sir

[@lewistodd9242]

Another great video showing things we normally don't get to see. Thanks

[@ccrx6700]

It is wicked stuff to breathe, take it in for more than a few seconds and it will put you on your knees. Gotta try and stay down wind or off to the side. Thanks for watching

[@suepugliese6951]

Outtstanding! Thank you! Keep Going!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Sue, glad you enjoyed. We do Thank You for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@emknapp6713]

Interesting. Learned something new today. Thanks for sharing!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Ezekiel, glad you enjoyed, and I too learn something new all the time, pretty cool isn't it

[@thomasjunkins6491]

That would be exciting to me because you guy's are gonna be back up and rolling and that would make me feel great Sir.

[@donnalannan2978]

Wow, this is really amazing! Thanks for sharing it. 😊

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Donna, glad you enjoyed. We do Thank You for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@torbinator9729]

I've been getting back into HO model railroading and watching tons of model & real-world content. I've been learning a lot from your videos, and this one made me ask myself, "Why the heck am I not subscribed yet?" Thanks for sharing everything you have been!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment and for watching, really great to hear you are enjoying the shows

[@gregdowle8031]

The "truing" machine he is using is a modified lathe. The pile of shavings are called swarf in industry. Computerisation is rapidly making inroads into the Fitting and Turning industry and the more advanced Toolmaking. I used to clean up apprentices workshops at a technical institute a long time ago.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you very much Greg for taking the time to share that info with us. We do appreciate your watching the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@tropifiori]

I have a little home machine shop . The forces and heat involved in such an operation are just unbelievably huge. I am surprised they don’t flood it in a coolant.

[@ccrx6700]

Yes Frank it is surprising! Excellent point sir

[@donmoore7785]

Excellent point. I wonder why that is. Perhaps the mass of the wheel sinks the heat away fast enough?

[@jasonplatco7881]

The point of contact/friction/cutting that generates the heat is very small & those wheels are enormous and dense. I do believe the wheels act as a heat sink for that operation.

[@deconteesawyer5758]

The vast majority of the heat goes into the chips. Coolant is not used because intermittent cooling causes the carbide to fracture. You can use coolant but it requires a continuous heavy flood of coolant which is impracticable for this close quarter hand work. The operator would need a wet suit.

[@ccrx6700]

@@deconteesawyer5758 thanks for the insight! I know when drilling rail we use a constant flow of cutting solution, the plug that comes out you can hold in your bare hand.

[@ronhelman3985]

A great video of how it works!! Thank you for sharing. I really enjoy your videos and glad I found your channel!!!!!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Ron, really appreciate your nice comment sir and for watching

[@TriGogglin]

That is something, what a great cost effective way of saving those wheels, And back in service, way faster then dismantling it sending it out and waiting, and the engine out of service way to long, another great video Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Pappy, glad you liked it, yep way more cost effective than replacing a traction motor, I had no idea people even did this in the field until that day, learn something new everyday

[@TriGogglin]

@@ccrx6700 as are we learning with you, so glad you show us these videos. We don't know or see any of these things, thank you.

[@stevencooper2464]

That is an amazing process; and done in a very practical way...they didn't have to remove the wheel set. But, I'll tell ya, you'ld never get me under a 150 ton locomotive while one of the axles are turning! NNNoooo wwwaaayyy!!!

[@ccrx6700]

I understand that Steven! It is scary being under that much weight, thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed

[@davidhuber9418]

awesome! thank you! my dad is a machinist, he did this stuff to relaxe, i miss him!

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome David, glad you liked it. Machinists are a dying art. This guy just before he started told me, I'm about to have some fun. I miss my dad too.... Appreciate your watching sir

[@falksweden]

Wow, that's a profession I didn't know existed until know. Amazing work!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you liked the home movie. I didn't know there were traveling truers either till this guy came in. Was a first for me. Appreciate your watching Kristian

[@thomasjunkins6491]

Love you guys and God bless on the Cumberland Railroad.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Thomas! Glad you like these sir

[@PowerTrain611]

Jeez, 50-60 grand for a machine to true the wheels with... I thought the tungsten bits for the old fashioned truer were gonna be pricey, but that blew me away. I shouldn't be surprised though... it's about what you should expect for something so specialized for working on big, heavy and equally expensive equipment! What an awesome video. Glad you were able to share this!

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks Bryson, really great to hear you enjoyed the show today sir

[@NorthernChev]

It’s nice to finally be up next that ol’ loco and not have the spitter valve knocking away non stop as you film. Although sad because she’s not moving.

[@ccrx6700]

Yes it certainly is! that spitter drives me nuts! Thanks for watching

[@HistoricBF]

What a great video, so neat to see! Thanks for catching this stuff to share with us!

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks and really glad you enjoyed watching it sir

[@trainmann111]

That is just wild! Such an interesting process to keep from having to do more major work in pulling the wheels entirely. So cool for us railfans to see something we've not seen before. Thanks so much for sharing for us regular folks!! Love your videos! I wanna come visit someday....from Chambersburg PA....bout 3 hrs away. Someday maybe.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome! Really great to hear you enjoyed the show J M. I've been thru Chambersburg, seemed like a nice place, thanks for watching

[@alro2434]

@@ccrx6700 If this is your first time its gotta be rare, Thanks Dave!

[@ccrx6700]

@@alro2434 👍😊

[@38911bytefree]

Nice vid. Crazy stuff !!!!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you, glad you liked today's show!

[@CTK1201]

WOW! THIS was Pretty Cool! I never knew that this was even possible.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment CTK, glad you enjoyed. Very much appreciate your taking the time to write in and watch the truing a wheel video my friend.

[@ededmonds8792]

WOW MIND BLOWN

[@user-yb9sr8pp9o]

Good info.always Learning something new.thanks .have anice evening

[@ccrx6700]

That was the first time I had ever seen that done too Alan. I'm always learning new things on the RR also. Glad you found this out, cause now you know what to do with those flat spots on the loco you have in your back yard.... :-)

[@manicmechanic448]

I did it! I finally found a noise louder, and more shrill than an Irish banshee.

[@ccrx6700]

Reminded me of going to my local dentist and what he used to do to my teeth....LOL Thanks for watching

[@eugeneellison6479]

Awesome video as always

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed the show Eugene, we do appreciate your tuning in to the channel and watching and for the very nice comment my friend.

[@johnd2042]

Interesting video. Another great video from you. I learn much from watching your videos. Thankyou

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you John, glad you liked the show today sir

[@thomaspinnick5796]

To quote another KZbin "But wait, there's more". After I had been promoted up to a planner/estimator, my two replacements asked me to look at a derailed locomotive. It had derailed "the wrong way" at a turnout. There was no obvious track defect or operational issue. So one inspector called an individual at the FRA school in Oklahoma City

[@thomaspinnick5796]

He said check the wheel. Guess what, the mechanics had worked on that wheel that caused the truck to slew left. It had ran about two hours prior to that and I don't know why it picked that spot. Look at a magic marker, the base is larger than the top. Does it roll straight? No. Wheels can be turned but need shimmed to balance them in the truck.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks for sharing that story Thomas! I enjoyed it. I'm sure you as well as me have seen a lot of weird things happen out here over the years. Would love to get together sometime and talk railroadin with you!

[@railfan439]

Thanks for the video. I knew they could true up wheel sets, but I thought they had to do them in the shop on a lathe. Never knew they could use the traction motor to spin the wheels. Learn something new every day. Jon, U.P. Pacific Coast Line, Santa Barbara Sub, M.P. 404.5

[@ccrx6700]

I never knew that either! I learned something new also. Thanks for watching and writing in

[@bluefj-wc3vz]

Cool operation. Never saw that done. Neat that they’re running traction motor off of a gen too.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed the unique video

[@jonappleseed5270]

wow, this was a super interesting video. Thank you !

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Matthew, glad to know you liked it! Appreciate your watching sir

[@johnglover489]

That is super interesting. Thank you for putting this video up. Just super skilled guy who worked out how to do this on the locomotive.

[@ccrx6700]

Great to hear John you liked it!

[@mikefochtman7164]

Great video. Just don't touch those shavings with your bare fingers!! That stuff is as sharp as razor blades!! Thanks for sharing, good stuff.

[@ccrx6700]

You are right Mike! I was tempted to puck some up in the movie then thought, that prob not a good idea 😉

[@gregvarn364]

I'm a new subscriber and just want to say thank you for doing these videos ! I appreciate details and you do a great job showing and describing what we are seeing . I like all mechanical things especially trains and your videos show the details and some really interesting parts of the railroad that not many of us get to see !! Thanks again !!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Greg, and welcome aboard the show, glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy the home movies sir

[@bobgallo2178]

That is so cool. Much cheaper to do it this way, I would imagine. Thanks for posting.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Bob, really great to hear you enjoyed the show today

[@tallmike6598]

Good stuff I've learned a lot from your video's.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Mike! Really great to hear you are enjoying them

[@kenmazer9481]

Thanks for sharing

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Ken, thank you so much for viewing today's show sir

[@trapdriver7006]

Excellent video I enjoyed watching it and I have never seen that process before.👍😀😀😀😀😀🇬🇧🚂

[@ccrx6700]

Great to hear you liked it Tony! Appreciate your viewing the show today sir

[@alcopower5710]

Like a portable lathe…….this is something I’ve never seen before. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome glad you enjoyed 😊

[@christophereaves862]

Very, very kool video man. This reminds me when I was a welder for machinist 👍🏻👍🏻

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Christopher, great to hear you like this one

[@mikefightmaster]

Always interesting content. Amazing how much maintenance is required.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Mike, nice to know you are liking these, appreciate your viewing sir

[@KWMeikle]

Very interesting Great video Thanks

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Kevin, glad you enjoyed today's show sir

[@nutsnproud6932]

Thanks for the video. WOW - I guess turning the tires is cheaper than getting a new ones.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome. Can't just change one wheel on an axle. Have to change both wheels and the traction motor, that turns into a pretty expensive deal. Appreciate your taking in the video today nutsnproud6932

[@davidbass7593]

So they are actually trimming off the wheel to get more flange ?? I figured that wheel would have to be removed and replaced or the whole axle assembly replaced wow that's amazing thanks for sharing a video no one would've ever seen or known about Dave that's unbelievable

[@ccrx6700]

Wheel will end up with more flange height and also a more uniform profile on the flange as well as profile on the wheel David. It is incredible to be there and watch them do this. Thank you for taking the time to visit and check out the video my friend.

[@terrywebb8636]

Hi Mr. Dave, talk about a finger nail down a chalkboard, not sure I could do that. I would have to have ear protection on top of protection. Nice to see the old emd back in service, thanks for sharing.

[@ccrx6700]

You're right about that Terry, my first thoughts was a trip to the beloved dentist..... :-) Thank you so much for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@okzoia]

Thanks ccrx. the color of that locomotive is similar to the color of the old Missouri Pacific engines that ran by our house back in the 1960's and 1970's.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Rick, glad you enjoyed it. I did not know MoPac had that color! Appreciate your watching sir

[@steelem422]

Nice my learning for the day!

[@ccrx6700]

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[@royreynolds108]

Both wheels on an axle need to be very close to the same diameter for the axle to roll correctly down the track. I would be willing to bet that the decision to hold the track gauge close to 56.5 in the sharp curves is why the flanges are wearing like that. The gauge in the sharp curves needs to be widened to about 57 and 1/4 or 57 and 1/2 inches in the 13 and 14 degree curves for those 3-axle trucks. Don't go over 1 inch wide on the gauge though without checking what the cars are doing. Watch the flanges on the locos in the 13 & 14 degree curves as the locos go through them, you have an excellent vantage point on the steps. You need to watch the front truck and back truck in those curves.

[@ccrx6700]

Gauge widening for 3 axle loco trucks like we have is something I have been advocating here for many years Roy, however no one wants to agree with me. It was common practice way back when they ran the big steam locos. Oh well, rails and flanges just keep getting ground down. Thank you for watching and writing in my friend.

[@alro2434]

@@ccrx6700 Your axles are about 15 feet from the 1st to the 3rd, while a steam Loco. could easily be 3 times that so it would need 3 time the room before the flange hits.

[@johnwaby4321]

That's a very different interesting job on that wheel .👍👍

[@ccrx6700]

You are right about that John, and almost as annoying as sitting in a dentist's chair while he drills your teeth.... :-) Thank you very much for visiting with us and may you have a really good day my friend.

[@shirleyharrington-moore9657]

Truing locomotive wheels is quite the specialized field.

[@ccrx6700]

It certainly is. Some railroads have truing machines, this was a bit crude, but it was our only option other than to replace the entire truck assembly, so it was a lot cheaper and it worked.

[@waynegarrison2481]

Nice video Dave interesting.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Wayne. Really appreciate your visiting with us and writing in with the nice comment my friend.

[@johnc8175]

Very Interesting. Like truing brake drums or rotors but on a larger scale. Thanks!

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome John, very good to hear you enjoyed, it is a rather unique thing to see done. First time for me also. Do appreciate your writing in and for watching sir.

[@lestergillis8171]

The computerized versions sound a great deal like a CNC lathe.

[@captainkeyboard1007]

As an old railroad fan and a fairly new fan of modern computer technology, as well as an avid typist, it would be nice if I would see a modern truing machine.

[@ccrx6700]

The modern ones are computer controlled and use lasers as measuring devices on the wheel Captain Keyboard. It's an automated process, nothing like what you saw in this video. More like a big lathe.

[@captainkeyboard1007]

@@ccrx6700 June 221976, I saw an old wheel truing machine at the Coney Island subway car repair shop on the seventy-fifth Diamond Jubilee of the BMT. Thank you for typing to me. Happy Railroading!💙