The Strange Case Of Jim & Sandra Melgar

Just before Christmas, in Houston, Texas, a family gathering was set to happen at a home in Kelsey Meadows Court. Jim and Sandra Melgar were hosting a little party for their family, but when everyone turned up that afternoon, they were met with an unbelievably horrifying scene...
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[@josi4251]

Former paralegal here. Never, ever talk to the cops. Ask "Am I being detained?" If not, get the hell out of there. If yes, then immediately ask for a lawyer and say nothing more. While I've worked with cops and generally like them, they like to close cases and they may use every trick in the book to do whatever it takes. Keep your mouth shut, don't take any damn polygraphs, and don't talk to the press.

[@wrosebrock]

polygraphs only benefit cops

[@roser6963]

Agreed. I tell my children this and hope they listen should the need ever arise.

[@josi4251]

@@roser6963 Good on you. I teach high school and college students and they hear it as well. Though I make it clear that I believe that most cops are good guys, they should follow this advice.

[@michaelblum4557]

Also important to state your desire to speak to lawyer in clear, direct, and unequivocal terms. Not riddled with qualifiers e.g. ‘I think I might want to speak to a lawyer’ or ‘by the way this conversation is going I think it would be a good idea to speak to a lawyer’ etc (tho good cops would/should respond to this by halting any interrogation at this prompt), but ‘I want to speak to my lawyer’.

[@Void0420]

@@CosmosChill7649 lie detector tests are fallible

[@amytih47]

No idea if she did it or not but I would never have deemed her guilty on the evidence presented. Hope she gets a retrial.

[@HHSProductions]

Kinda nuts. He was stabbed how many times? And she cleaned up somehow cleaned up so well that that one of her fingernails looked like it had be cleaned, but otherwise she had no trace of blood on any of her clothing, and the juror interviewed said prosecution didn't establish beyond a reasonable doubt that she did it, just that they made sense an old woman with a cane and numerous health issues and put DNA from unknown individuals on the restraints they were tied in somehow.

[@beaterman8502]

It’s just a suspicious case cause neighbours cctv saw no one break in and no one heard anything

[@leewilliams2763]

The prosecution said she could have used a pillow to pull the chair towards the cupboard door to lock herself in? Well was there a cushion by the chair? If it was a home invasion and she was unconscious, then possibly makes sense why they never bothered with her as there was no threat and just locked her in the cupboard! The husband put up a fight hence why he was stabbed so much! Strange he was naked! But with no marks on her hands nor any bruises, I would never have convicted her if I was on the jury! Because there was no DNA testing done or traces of blood bagged and tagged for testing, the jury was not presented with an alternative! They had no choice almost but to convict her!

[@jamiehoward8802]

She was railroaded by the cops, they often do this to close a case and further their careers with no regard for the victims... shameful abuse of power is evident here as I see it...

[@beevonerd]

Idk, I think her medical records are interesting. Like was she faking it?? She could've been addicted to the pain killers that were "missing" from the home that they mentioned for all we know. I've known addicts of all walks of life who you'd never think couldn't go a day w.o opiates, but there they are. 🤷🏿‍♂️ It would also lend to her strength in committing the crime. I'm not saying its fact, ijs its a possibility.

[@veeser1]

The narrator on this channel has a voice that adds to every true crime story she tells. Love it.

[@phoenixfeathers1232]

Agree

[@Courtenay-Dawn]

Yes!!! I totally agree! She needs to be reading books on tape for real

[@user-oe1mb9hu9i]

@@Courtenay-Dawn My bet is she thinks she is hollywood's next big superstar and is doing this to pay for her acting lessons ... LOL. Unfortunately, they haven't got to the "how to sound even remotely interested about what you are reading" .....

[@user-oe1mb9hu9i]

She hasn't got to the "how to sound even remotely interested about what you are reading" ..... in her acting courses yet.

[@helenaville5939]

@@user-oe1mb9hu9i She sounds interested in the case for sure. You sound interested in bringing her down.

[@Raul_Gajadhar]

As someone that suffers with epilepsy, I'd like to say there are a lot of people out there that don't understand the illness, both doctors and police. After a seizure there is muscle pains and loss of memory if not other more serious injuries usually from falling down. The part I hate most about seizures is the loss of memory as I get older. The medicine I take for my epilepsy leaves me in a docile and compliant state, that is what you're witnessing in the police interview. There is a lot of things wrong here with this case.

[@dawnyg2951]

Yeah me too. After a seizure I’ve no idea who I am or where I live for about an hour! Pounding head and chewed tongue and no memory of any of it. This case is so sad. I 💯 believe she’s innocent.

[@Jessica-uf3zp]

I wanted to scream when I heard the jurors discussing her medical records being a turning point in their decision because an epileptic doesn’t need to go to the doctor every time they have a seizure. The medical records are also likely notes from an EMR which utilize built in “templates” that pulls in historical data automatically. I review hundreds of charts a week as part of my job and it’s extremely common to find repeating sentences from previous visits due to how templates are built and data is coded on the back end. Health information managers and documentation specialists are likely the ones responding to subpoenas for information which adds some safeguards but not necessarily. Ugh, I have become increasingly uncomfortable with juries the more I study the law and listen to their interviews.

[@celineleeuwe1206]

My daughter sufferd from seizures. Already some time like an hour before she was "not there" You've to know the pattern to understand. Afterwards there's no memory, injuries, pain and often a bloody tongue I really don't understand why they didn't give this woman help . Also the unknown dna isn't looked after. There was a known robber seen in the neighbourhood; he got away easy imho; just don't answer the door or police calls ? There's enough to investigate more here instead to run to convict somebody

[@underwearmaintenance]

My first husband was a drunken, abusive, bastard, but after he had a seizure he was docile as a newborn kitten for the entire day. He could barely get out of bed, much less carry on cognitive thought and conversation. Why were they even talking to this poor lady!

[@simiansimbo]

This poor woman was being interviewed in a posticle (post seizure) state when she should have been receiving medical attention. The last time my husband had a grand Mal a few months back - he said the first he knew he had one was when he heard me telling them at the hospital what had happened and he thought “why is she telling them I had a grand Mal? I didn’t have a grand Mal.” People often don’t know what type or if they’ve had a seizure for certain unless there are witnesses. They just know they don’t feel right, or feel similar to how they’ve felt after a confirmed seizure. Everything this woman says makes perfect sense in the context of her epilepsy

[@ccb9674]

Guilty or innocent…NEVER talk to the police without an attorney!

[@sebastianelytron8450]

Such dumb advice. If you know you're innocent, all you'll be doing is making the already rich lawyer richer.

[@GorFrag]

in many states and for many judges, She DID!

[@thedappercook]

​@@sebastianelytron8450nope, thousands and thousands and thousands of innocent people have being thrown in jail for all sorts of weird and even corrupt reasons. It's imperative that whenever you speak to police that you speak with a lawyer. If you don't believe me about innocent people being thrown into jail check out the Innocence Project.

[@swellymells]

@@sebastianelytron8450 are you slow? It’s your right to have a lawyer, and don’t act like there’s not crooked cops who try to pin things on you

[@MrsRobinson0741]

She talked about she thinks she should talk to a lawyer…they never stopped asking questions or let her call for a lawyer!

[@QueenD75172]

I have no idea if she is innocent or guilty but I am shocked with how little they can lock somebody up...

[@LeeoGoneWild]

It’s very alarming and explains why so many people are wrongfully convicted. “Oh, her story doesn’t make sense, she’s alive and there can’t be anyone else!”

[@TentinQuarantino_]

Texas is full of people who have more guns than brains. I used to think I might like to live in Austin but the state is just entirely too screwed up.

[@tylerskiss]

What’s crazy is you’ll see other cases where they have video evidence, dna, a weapon and suspicious computer and phone activity, and they still won’t arrest the subject because they don’t have enough? It’s ridiculous.

[@QueenD75172]

@@tylerskiss I agree. Doesn't sound and look like justice at all.

[@DocBree13]

And ignore requests for a lawyer

[@tamonsterify]

Even the people in the courtroom were shocked at the jury finding her guilty.

[@jamesball8519]

Why. The I can’t remember bs ain’t working

[@Grace-tc1lq]

@@jamesball8519She just doesn’t look strong enough and why wasn’t the other DNA looked at?

[@TrustMeIKnowEverything]

The jury weren't shocked

[@lamontjohnson5810]

Just goes to show that juries put A LOT of faith and trust in the state's side of events. That's just so dangerous. I'm not saying she's innocent, but there is definitely a lot of reasonable doubt. And as such, they should have found her not guilty. Can you imagine all the people who are wrongfully convicted because the prosecution and LE will do anything to successfully close cases with convictions. The spouse is always the easy target.

[@desnutz901]

People r so dumb

[@frobber150]

Twice she asked for a LAWYER. Twice the Detectives ignored her. What is going on here ? These men need to be fired. Free Sandra Melgar !

[@andrewc0134]

She said “I think” which unfortunately is the not same as asking for a lawyer, legally speaking.

[@skarm7780]

She said I think not I demand a lawyer, you lose

[@mynineandi]

I still do not understand how she was convicted. I am however glad she was released. And honestly, detectives like this are absolute garbage. They didn’t do their job. They didn’t interview the man, they didn’t follow up on the dna found on the scarves and throughout the home, they messed up the entire case and a killer/s is still out there.

[@rubywhitter5562]

She didnt ask for a lawyer with strong conviction cause she know she guilty!

[@amyshew1151]

She wasn’t under arrest . They didn’t have an obligation to get her a lawyer . Theoretically ? She could’ve gotten up and walked out without answering a single question . Bad , wicked and sadly deluded that they’re on a mission from god or think they just get a feeling who’s guilty and who’s not . Makes me sick watching the injustice unfold , and Sandra helpless .

[@justiceforallnotjustsome]

She asked twice for a Lawyer and they kept questioning.. they violated her constitutional rights

[@gabrielamartiniuc6322]

I think I need a lawyer . I would have said “I want an attorney.” With an assertive voice. And I would have gotten up and left. You can leave if you’re not being detained.

[@Lady1974M]

My thoughts exactly! I hope they bring it up on appeal.

[@cjb2749]

@@gabrielamartiniuc6322 she couldn't have just left, but she definitely should have made it clear that she wanted a lawyer. I don't necessarily blame her, though. It's obvious that she was feeling incredibly confused and vulnerable.

[@shivvypoppy]

You are so right about this. The SECOND the word "lawyer" gets brought up...game over, officers. Nothing that you hear or say from this point is legally sound.

[@heartbeatsdrum]

Exactly

[@nathryl03]

The fact that she has a seizure disorder is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why she doesn't remember things. For example, she could've heard her husband scream but not registered it because she was just coming out of a seizure or starting one, and then, when her mind cleared she couldn't remember it. My brother has seizures, and when they happen, he can lose as much as the last 3 or 4 hours, and sometimes it never comes back. This case was absolutely and horribly mishandled.

[@G-Star-Raw]

Doctors records show she had not had any in a very long time, so why did she say she had one and one the month before, listen to the juror.

[@nathryl03]

@@G-Star-Raw I'll admit that I forgot the fact that medical records said that she hadn't had a seizure recently, although I wonder how that's accurate, because your doctor might not necessarily know about every seizure. But even if you don't have seizure for a long time, something can still trigger one, like stress for example. I can't explain why she would say she had one the month prior if she didn't, but stress can make you do weird things and she definitely seemed stressed during that interrogation. I'm not saying she definitely didn't do it, only 2 people know that for sure and one isn't around to tell anyone, but the evidence mentioned is very flimsy imo.

[@G-Star-Raw]

@@nathryl03 I saw no Stress myself, I mean I also have been married to my husband for 29 years and if i just found out he had horrendously been murdered the scene would be so different ...she seemed arrogant, blasé...

[@josephinepeery6938]

​@@G-Star-Raw we are all individuals and react differently to exact same scenarios. Personally, I couldn't say how I'd react.

[@TheRight-handedStranger]

@@G-Star-Raw - Seizures happens most in stressful situations, she might have heard noises and got scared and it trigger a seizure and the people thought she is no threat because she is unconscious and just made sure she won’t get out and see them. The husband (RIP) must have fought them and they wanted to quiet him and not be able to recognize them.

[@shannonnichols3415]

My husband and I just watched this again. He’s been in the penitentiary a long time ago and they have a saying…”in Harris County, they can indict a bologna sandwich! That should give you the idea of what is going on!”. Please keep us posted on any further developments!🙏

[@1888.cfc.]

Corrupted to the core

[@jessicaalvarez3550]

So glad I live in harris county 😅

[@Colette92017]

Indicting a baloney sandwich is an old saying used to describe every grand jury in the USA. Indictments are very easy to get, it’s getting convictions that prosecutors have to actually work to get.

[@nononoisaidnope]

He's not wrong ! I HAAAATE Harris county law enforcement (as a person who called them for help). They're evil.

[@thomasnorman4221]

It's a ham sandwich, and this saying is known worldwide not just in your county

[@barbiezack9425]

I just have a problem with how relaxed she was,if I find out my husband was stabbed to death I wouldn't be that calm

[@mariselabarrera432]

Shock can be a huge factor in this.. also any meds she may have been taking for seizures.

[@lindabrennan4455]

Seizure medication and Xanax can make you catatonic plus, some people just sort of act "out of it" especially if they are unwell as she clearly is.

[@LifeInAGlassBell]

Please remember that she was under medication that would relax her neurologically, therefore her being "relaxed".

[@jessicaalvarez3550]

Sandy was just kind of always like that. She's not a super, outwardly emotional person. Could be the prescription(s) but I knew Jim, Sandy, and Lizzy for YEARS growing up and again, she was just like that. Her sense of humor was kinda dry too. Idk. She was a bit weird, but always quiet and sweet. Honestly, even knowing them I still don't know what to think about this. The situation is weird. The timing of it being on their anniversary is weird. Everything is weird. I saw Sandy shortly after Jim died, before the funeral, and I got such a strange feeling. Could have been her. Could have been the house (which I didn't know he was murdered in at the time. I was just a teen and my parents told me he died of a heart attack). Seizure medication shouldn't be mixed with alcohol. Maybe that was a factor.

[@lindabrennan4455]

@@jessicaalvarez3550 Do you think she was strong enough to do that to her husband? I mean, if you knew them alot of times you can get a feel for them. Was he kind of frail and weak? She acts like she is frail and weak but if you look at her picture she looks alot stronger than he does. I am assuming that she was on medication but I didn't hear them say that she was on anything other than when they said there were medications and opiods missing after the break in. No matter what way I look at it she deserves a new trial.

[@farmerinthedells]

There should be a wall of shame for investigators like this. Most of us don't get to make horrendous mistakes on our jobs without losing them.

[@EyeCue23]

I meeeeeean….. yeah i agree and i definitely h8 dirty cops more than anyone… however her story did sound pretty shaky

[@63zinc]

@@EyeCue23 Except, if you have seizures, you don't remember anything in a period of time leading up to it, and nothing when you wake up. Speaking from experience as an epileptic & someone with fibro, it's implausible that she could have done this. Perhaps she hired someone to do the deed, but the-I don't want to say mistakes- denial of a lawyer when she asked at least twice, the bullying, & the not following up of strange dna makes me think they just weren't interested in anything but getting an arrest.

[@farraelena4570]

@@EyeCue23 they questioned her just hours after the incident and she claimed to have had a seizure. So it's consistent with the memory loss. My son has epilepsy and whenever he has a seizure, he wouldn't have the energy to do anything for at least 24hours and couldn't remember anything prior to the seizure. Not even the seizure itself. The woman in this case walks with a cane, has lupus, epilepsy, a hip replacement and has no motive (as per her lawyer). Yes, her husband had a life insurance naming her as the beneficiary but there nothing new there. The life insurance shouldn't be the only motive. According to everyone who knew the couple claims that they were very happily married and just celebrated their anniversary. All that has to be taken into account. The daughter doesn't believe her mother killed her father either.

[@kostasvrionis781]

Τα κάνανε σκατα όλοι τους

[@Smerm]

Something is off with her as being the actual killer. One thing that stuck out to me was how during her initial interrogation, she invoked her right to a lawyer a couple times but they kept interviewing her. My understanding was if a person invoke la that right , the interview/ interrogation has to stop. This whole story on both sides is weird.

[@kieramason8007]

I can’t believe what I’ve just watched. The fact she was found guilty with so much doubt and then her appeals not allowed. I really hope the people with the powers fight for this lady.

[@19alive]

I think she is guilty but should have not been convicted because there is not enough evidence to support it.

[@andrewc0134]

It’s hard to say just from watching a video. The juror they interviewed said he didn’t believe it was possible until he heard all the evidence from the prosecutor. There are definitely things we didn’t see here, like specific re-enactments proving she could tie herself up, or put the chair at the door from inside, etc.

[@derp8575]

People with the powers were probably responsible.

[@derp8575]

Why do you believe she is guilty? I'll wait....@@19alive

[@jameskorner6611]

Yup

[@peppercat8718]

This is horrible. When the juror said about her medical reports no seizure no seizure…… You can’t always believe what is written. Same thing happened to me with Kaiser before I was diagnosed with my autoimmune disease. They could not figure out what was wrong with me I was losing weight, felt like I had a bad flu 24/7. Later I read the Drs notes. It would say patient looked fine. When going to physical therapy Kaiser gives you 8 sessions, on the 6th session they ask if you want to continue coming in or finish the 2 at home. Sometimes I would say yes sometimes no. A few years later while trying to get disability the disability judge asked me. It says here that you “refused” physical therapy and asked me to explain. I was livid and told the judge how Kaiser works regarding pt. Other things I read on me and my husbands dr notes are not correct. They put things down that we did not even discuss. I feel really bad for this lady 😟.

[@glitterfluff2193]

My son had severe medical issues which required emergency surgery to save his life. I took him to his doctor six times, showed up many times and called telling them something was wrong. Took him to two hospitals. All of them charted patient fine. One said “mother exhibits signs of Munchausen. Follow up.” Third hospital literally had to resuscitate my son, took over 12 hours to stabilize for a special NICU transport to take to a hospital several hours away where a surgeon half way across the country had to be called in to do the surgery to save his life.” All of his charts from every doctor and hospital showed the same thing but none listened and said child fine, mom unstable pretty much. Then, in my medical charts, I had lost 20 pounds, I was 94 pounds at 5’5. I was losing blood (female issues - diagnosed stage 4 endo which extended outside my uterus and covered several organs.) my blood work was AWFUL, platelets low, high fever, but it said patient fine. My paperwork showed the blood given and all of that but my chart had none of that. They didn’t even charge my 20 pound loss in less than 2 months or the fact I was vomiting in the room, that I was sweating… any of it. My mom clearly had a seizure (brain damage from being in a coma on life support) - the doctor said it was a seizure. We ALL saw it. Test showed no seizure. She was freaking passed out, drooling, choking, all of it but the one doctor said she didn’t have one. Doctors argued. The seizure never made the reports until she had several more and they finally started addressing them. Oh, here’s one. I was visibly pregnant. Baby inside per ultrasound (5 months with other documented proof) and yet supposedly my blood work showed I wasn’t pregnant. Excuse me? That’s a baby on the screen. Heart beating steadily. Doctor walked in and said, “you need to be transferred to the general wards, you’re not pregnant” all while the traveling ultrasound tech had the wand on my stomach and my son flipped the doctor off (true story.) I was also having contractions and was there to stop labor. Doctor looked at the screen and said “excuse me.” Like what? There’s a reason it’s practicing medicine. There’s a reason there’s many drugs for the same thing - not all bodies work the same. Medical staff DO mess up. Sometimes they misread tests. Before my newborns surgery he had the same tests at two hospitals. Both were read as normal or were never read because the third hospital (who diagnosed and got ready for transport) used those SAME scans to formally diagnose even though they told me “I’d bet on my life your son has xxxxx” before they even requested the scans from the previous hospitals. I have no clue if this woman did this BUT they did ignore her when she asked for a lawyer twice AND I am a firm believer of getting other medical opinions when dealing with major things.

[@peppercat8718]

@@glitterfluff2193 That's horrible! Goes to show, we really need to be our own advocate. Many blessings to you and your family ♥

[@nylai36]

😊pa0😊0

[@DeanJace0227]

They test your blood for seizures it's really obvious. I've had one driving before and hit someone. Forgot my name my mom's name the president the year. I couldn't remember who I was.

[@jjjks5]

I honestly don’t know what to make of this. She did seem guilty at times, and several of the facts are so odd. But I feel like they didn’t investigate the other options at all….

[@mariaburr8306]

Not saying she did it but never underestimate no one. We don’t know. Never ever say what a person won’t do. Our spouse, family, best friend, anyone

[@Una...]

*Just finished. I can't believe they found her guilty. They said that she could've used a rug or a mat to close the closet door with a chair leaning against it. Didn't they take pics of the crime scene? Was there a rug or a mat under the door? Why weren't the missing items on their list? Her family member had to cut her bindings off they were so tight. If he had defensive wounds, that means the person who did this had to be fighting with him during the struggle/stabbings/beatings. Wouldn't the perpetrator also have some kind of wounds/cuts/bruises/scratches around their hands/wrists? He wasn't just stabbed and then dead, he was beaten, it was a struggle and violent. They use her lack of wounds/cuts/bruising against her, but to me, that's more proof that it wasn't her. She walked with a cane, was fairly weak due to her illnesses, but she had the strength to beat the life out of her husband, who was violently fighting her back? No. No, she did not do this. And shame on those cops for continuing to hound her after she TWICE asked for a lawyer. *So I wrote this before you read what her defense attorney said. Clearly I agree with them. And I didn't even mention the unknown DNA.

[@12thDecember]

You have listed *every single reason* why there is so much reasonable doubt in her case.

[@Una...]

@@12thDecember right?

[@sebastianelytron8450]

This is such a biased take. She could've laced his drink with something, she could've knocked him out somehow, could've given him an electric shock, the possibilities are endless. Seriously, murdering your spouse and staging it like there was a break-in is really, really not that difficult.

[@coolinmac]

They found her guilty because she absolutely killed her husband.

[@coolinmac]

@@sebastianelytron8450 you seem to be the only voice of reason with all these comments. People are so stupid it’s unbelievable

[@itsahellofaname]

How can a jury so completely miss the definition of "reasonable doubt"? There are a ton of doubts all over this case! The prosecutor didn't prove she did it - they just proved her story didn't make sense. That doesn't equal a guilty verdict, it just equals a shoulder shrug and a "we don't know".

[@markus7166]

I think you are severely overestimating the intelligence of the average person.

[@notaperson9831]

Our entire justice system is broken.

[@chidozietoplis9960]

exactly! ive seen cases where the evidence is so damning but due to minor technicalities which creates doubt, the killer is found not guilty . They definitely got it wrong in this case. There's not even any circumstantial evidence.

[@LeonFelixRusso]

@@notaperson9831 No it's not.

[@katrina3560]

​@@LeonFelixRusso It's broken. Barely hobbling along

[@mominator7274]

This was very well, respectfully and tastefully done. Thank you. New Subscriber 😊

[@jaccusefashion]

Clearly there is REASONABLE DOUBT here.

[@amandahiya1635]

This case needs proper forensic investigation and ofcourse she strongly deserves a retrial.

[@maureenstevens6824]

Exactly !!!!!!!

[@aleisaetheridge8682]

I think this too but she's still in jail .They went after her and never looked for anyone else .I just couldn't see any reason why She would ever want to kill her husband and how is it that Her husband was beaten and stabbed and there's not one mark on her after doing that to him ,how is that possible ? There's just no way and they were happy and there was never any reason to think they weren't . I know cops have a job to do but there's to much on them to win and find anybody whether they're guilty r not just like a prosecutor ,they want a win and that's all whether the win is a guilty person doesn't seem to matter .

[@loredanadincu4300]

Proper forensic what, after all this time. The proper forensic investigation is done well when you do it properly from the beginning. After a few years or more what you think you will find, a big nothing. That train has left the station long ago. And I see no problems with the investigation, forensic or not. The story seems suspicious. Why the possible intruder killed the husband but fid nothing to her. That is bulshit. No one would let her alive as her being a possible witness.

[@lokisingularity3394]

@Loredana Dincu maybe they left her cause she didn't fight back. The husband fought the attacker/s a d was stabbed many times. I'm not sure tho it's just a thought.

[@loredanadincu4300]

@Loki Singularity they left her because she didn't fight. I am sorry but that makes no sense. If you kill someone like that you don't let the other adult in the house alone because he or she didn't fight.

[@VivaMattiee]

First time I’ve felt so strongly that injustice was done in a murder case like this. Building a case against Sandra from day 1 to not following a lead from a known thief in the area.. shoddy work

[@landang7906]

5:34 She was tied so tight it had to be cut by scissors and how could she do that to herself? these cops are of a very low IQ.

[@traybern]

She 100% DID it!!! Wanted his ENTIRE retirement “estate.”

[@YMadubuike24]

The first time you have felt so strongly that the justice system can be unjust ? It won’t be your last.

[@realtalk6195]

Innocent people get convicted ALL the time. Most just don't get media coverage, and when they do it's usually years and decades later. Matter of fact, the US justice system is entirely built around offering innocent and mostly-innocent people plea bargains making them admit guilt just so they get a shorter sentence instead of a much longer sentence.

[@julieloucalcote1368]

I agree with you. Rarely do I sympathize with the defendant. Because, usually, there is enough evidence to sway me towards guilty. But this case! I am flabbergasted that she was found guilty with so LITTLE evidence against her! And, to then be denied appeal, not once BUT TWICE! I just can not believe this! Such a miscarriage of justice. Casey Anthony was found not guilty! OJ Simpson was found not guilty! And both of those cases had MOUNTAINS of evidence against those two! I just can’t wrap my mind around this case, at all!

[@michellemueller7288]

I love it when detectives make shit up and decide welp you're guilty, without any actual evidence. 🙄🤦‍♀️

[@Grace-tc1lq]

This verdict shocks me and makes me suspicious of the police and investigating team. I’ve never felt this way before but this case changes everything for me.

[@carltongirl95]

I'm on Sandra's side the police "forgot" to mention there were item's stolen...they forgot about the unknown DNA from two unknown people...she had no blood on her and her nail's were clean and not damaged either...so how the hell did that jury find her guilty beyond reasonable doubt...#JusticeForSandra 😥💜

[@ashleyw6160]

Yep, I'm upset with the jury bc there's absolutely enough evidence for reasonable doubt. I think the police got there & said, "This scene looks staged, she doesn't have any injuries & he has a lot. Looks like she did it!" Seems like they got tunnel vision & only treated her like she's guilty. None of them stopped to think,"maybe we could show her a little kindness/compassion, bc what if she didn't do it?!?" His defensive injuries were really bad & I just can't see her being strong enough to cause all of them,esp not w/o having any blood, scratches, etc. on her. Cops would've found any clothes w/blood if she changed. No way they fought like that & she came out totally unscathed while he was dead, imo!!!

[@anandjoshi8554]

she had disposed those (stolen)items way ahead (planned in advance); taken dna of others on some items in advance ; she had cleaned herself in the jakuzi / blood >>>as 1. her husband has only defensive wounds 2. no real barking was heard by neibours 3. weapon foung in the jakuzi /its finger print damged in jakuzi (by her) 4. no seizer illness remained /proof by doctors record 5. refused polygraph so smartly and lastly 6.asked for lawyer> if she had not done that , then what she is afraid of ????

[@keavz7309]

@@anandjoshi8554 if she had disposed of them items then they would have been found by now, there would also be some sort of cctv of her walking around with them items. If she had cleaned herself in the jacuzzi then blood would be in there. If she had cleaned any blood off herself then there would still be traces of blood on her. Where would she get the dna to place around the home? How would she acquire the knowledge to place someone’s dna around? Not taking a polygraph is a very sensible idea, especially when the questions from the police are obviously pointing at her being guilty. Asking for a lawyer is a MUST for all people when being questioned by the police, innocent or guilty. Everyone knows that, again, especially with the questions being obviously directed at her being guilty. Asking for a lawyer is no admission of guilt and is the smartest thing to do if you’re innocent or guilty

[@anandjoshi8554]

@@keavz7309 1.yeah I think also the same now !!>> how coincident n convinient >her seizure came twice >first when someone was killing her husband and second during the long hours of her captivity in that closet until her relatives comes next day around 4 pm. (but not during the tense interrogation period !! and no diagnosis records) 2 One can dispose their own item anytime ( long long before the killing incident) after taking them in garrage car > no one will ever see u via cctv while dumping them /or via dumpster. 3 The wounds on her husband body r not that deep, so may be there would not have been much blood on her/body >then a continuous flow draining of hot water can drain all blood /from murder weapon also. 4. If u let someone long before , like for cleaning the house/a babysitter/handyman, he/she may have left that dna. 5. If she had not done anything wrong, why she was afarid of ?? when asked whether she had killed, there was a pause !!!! A lawyer can effectively have u free in the trial also, if u r innocent and no evidence is there to punish you> but here no one had seen anyone else + no barking heard by waken neibour + coincidence of two seizure + murder weapon in her jakuzi + so much time to remove blood (12.30am previous night to 4 pm next day !!!) + defensive wounds on husband and lastly > why a robber only kill his husband so brutaly but not her ?? all so convinient /coincident !!!!?

[@pearlsof5534]

Sandra worked in the medical field so she knew well not to show broken nails as this is the most obvious sign that you have killed somebody

[@macplow2234]

The jury foreman straight up said he had reasonable doubt. This lady asked for a lawyer twice and they kept grilling her. They railroaded this poor lady.

[@eadweard.]

When did he say that?

[@loveforeignaccents]

@@eadweard. 33:30... "Was it absolutely provable? No. But it was the only thing that made sense."

[@jennarowe6346]

@@loveforeignaccents I thought the exact same thing when I heard him say that. He literally said the prosecutor's case "wasn't provable", but they convicted her because "it was the only thing that made sense". It's absolutely mind boggling to me that this woman is still sitting in prison.

[@Guns_Blazin]

Her defence attorneys are clearly being negligent to not bring this up during their appeals. They have clear proof that at least the jury foreman was not convinced beyond all reasonable doubt to find Sandra guilty. This is a clear mistrial. If the courts are not willing to free they need to make and appeal to the Governor of Texas for a pardon.

[@loveforeignaccents]

@@Guns_Blazin Along with not getting that unknown male and female DNA tested that was found in the house and on the backpack. Why wouldn't her attorneys have demanded that be fully tested?!!?

[@stephentelford6989]

Am I the only one screaming out 'who's DNA' was it - Unidentified male and female. So many questions - so few answers. This is clearly an unsafe conviction and why she has been denied a retrial is beyond me. The circumstantial evidence is weak and there is no DNA, marks, blood on her. This case stinks. Hopefully the innocence projects get her out ASAP. Those cops were too lazy to look for the real killers.

[@markthomas3730]

her defense lawyer was ineffective, to say the least. Demand a new trial...

[@PrettyDimeTheWordsmith]

No way this man fought so fiercely with his attacker that he had 'numerous" defensive wounds and this small, sickly woman had no cuts, bruises, NOTHING. They keep talking about how her story makes no sense, but THEIRS does not either. So they did not prove their case without a reasonable doubt. Travesty of Justice it seems...

[@davidb5333]

defense wounds do not mean 'fought fiercely'. Defence wounds can be literally from putting your arms up to protect your face and body... In this case the defence wounds they mentioned were stab wounds to the hands/fingers.

[@forgiveness78]

​@@davidb5333that's right. At the beginning of this episode I did not think she did it but after I heard he was tied up after being already dead well that changed my mind, and also the fact that she isn't bawling her eyes out, her husband is dead and she is calm and collected it's ridiculous!

[@TruthDissident]

​@@forgiveness78That and the knife was from the home lol. I mean c'mon. Also she conveniently remembered nothing and there was a pillow sham found in the bathroom. She definitely did it but unfortunately there is some reasonable doubt.

[@cecilejourdan5500]

Also, remember that the neighbor’s camera, getting a good view on her house, never captured anyone entering the house or breaking in. There was even another neighbor a few doors down working in his garage with the door wide open, at the same time the murder happened, and he didn’t hear nor see anything suspicious. If those were in fact robbers, why didn’t they choose his house instead? He would’ve been the easiest target for robbers. I think she did it, and maybe the daughter helped, or she knows something and is covering up for her mom. Mom wanted a divorce from dad, and daughter didn’t get along with dad. I find the dad’s murder a little too convenient. May he RIP.

[@bubbabroad9051]

I want the convict on leave to be looked into!

[@roser6963]

I’m not entirely convinced. I don’t think she did it. She had severe health problems. There were no marks on her body from the trauma she would’ve put him through. In my opinion, she is not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. She should be free.

[@makeyourself9110]

I think she hired someone to do it.

[@danifogel1709]

I'm not convinced, either, but on the other hand - there's hardly an indication to point to someone else. there are evidence that go against her (no sign of break-in, sure, but the chair to the door? they showed it can be done, among other things. not to mention her statement to the police), but they're circumstantial, and no actual direct evidence to tie her to the scene (no pun intended) . happy life, no motive, and they were both successful, so why did she need his money? (unless I missed a part where they said she was in debt? correct me, if I did) . very puzzling, imo.

[@juliecreaser878]

The fact that she lied about having recent seizures is a red flag to me. The medical reports indicated ‘‘ no seizures, no seizures, no seizures and she was getting better ‘’, according to the prosecution.

[@danifogel1709]

@@juliecreaser878 I agree. there're so many red flags, and yet it's still a head-scratcher..

[@chidozietoplis9960]

@@juliecreaser878 The investigator was fired for back dating search warrants. Tells you everything you need to know about this investigation. She asked for a lawyer twice.

[@MyAccountForCommenting]

I've seen interrogations where as soon as the subject says they want an attorney, the investigators get up and walk out.

She didn't say she wanted an attorney. Listen more carefully!

[@MyAccountForCommenting]

What did she say?

[@mangojuice8038]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jonnylumberjack6223]

Those police are so out of order. Twice she asked for a lawyer, twice they ignored her. I wouldn't take a polygraph either, fcking nonsense woo-woo with absolutely no scientific basis. I'd have been so very angry if that happened to me. I don't think someone with all her medical conditions could over power her husband, and kill him with absolutely no injuries to herself. It's balls.

[@jessicaburton842]

Seriously! These detectives have to stfu after lawyer. Period.

[@jonnylumberjack6223]

@@jessicaburton842 I think Texas might be one of the states where, unless you specifically say the words "I want a lawyer now", the cops can ignore it. If, for example, someone says "I think I need a lawyer", that's not good enough. It's seriously not ok.

[@Areniapixie]

Same here, no way in hell I would take a lie detector. (Not that I can anyway because I have a heart condition) Not reliable at all, there’s a reason they aren’t admissible. They are total nonsense

[@coolinmac]

No she didn’t. She said “I think I need to see a lawyer”. They are completely in the right.

[@coolinmac]

@@Areniapixie A polygraph is not a lie detector.

[@robyn874]

This is an absolute disgrace this woman continuously asked for a lawyer & they ignored her! Regardless if she is innocent or not her rights are being violated

[@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie]

No respect

[@katiemartinez5490]

She was not under arrest. Her right to an attorney only applies when you are under arrest. She could have left or refused to answer questions but that looks just as bad as asking for a lawyer while not under arrest.

[@Andromeda_CT86]

She clearly did it. Are u dumb?

[@Raztax]

@@katiemartinez5490 You are incorrect. You have the right to an attorney any time you are being questioned by police. Police are required to read you Miranda if you are being questioned even if you are not under arrest.

[@katiemartinez5490]

@@Raztax no. Miranda rights are not required until they are in police custody. Look it up. The 6th amendment is for right to counsel once you are a part of a criminal case.

[@SS-gh6jy]

The fact that juries never focuses on evidences rather on the preconceived notion that she is guilty & killed her husband is really sad and depressing. No way in her medical condition she could’ve over powered her husband and have the stamina of stabbing him 50 times 🙄. Their inconsiderate and poor evaluation is the cause of this person’s devastation #justiceForSandra

[@20bluelilies]

Judged by a panel of your peers, which is problematical considering the lack of intelligence and clear thinking in a large percentage of the general population. I'm not saying she didn't do it, but based on the case against her, she should not be in jail.

[@patriciadonoho2199]

I honestly go back n forth…. Policing was very shoddy from start , so already I assume they didn’t go above and beyond in any other leads than her. She had not one single scratch or smudge, blood, nothing if she had just done that horrible act. Not to mention her health. Crazy Case! Just wow.

[@shanicejones2825]

Right

[@dchambers986]

She didn't, she set him up.

[@somebody700]

The evidence shows nobody went in and out of the house during the entirety of the ordeal and until their discovery. There was nobody else that could have done it. The house was all locked up from the inside aside from the garage door, but the security footage from the neighbors shows nobody went in or out of the garage. That leaves her and her husband in that house during the murder.

[@loopylocks7746]

Never heard of this case and I’m so torn. Her story does not make sense but I don’t see her physically able to commit such a brutal crime. Whilst she was being interviewed I got the impression she knew more than she did and the way her body language and response was off as well. When she was asked did you kill your husband she hesitated whilst holding her hand in her hands. Her claims of not hearing anything not a single noise is impossible. I strongly believe somebody else did it and she’s covering for them. Similar to the JonBeney Ramsey case.

[@paulchristopher8634]

Your right….things don’t add up. How is it possible for someone to enter then house if the front and back door hadn’t be unlocked

[@noora-liinaora1147]

My immediate thought was that maybe she got someone to do it for her.

[@cornypinkuni9519]

Her body language being off has many reasons. First, she is a cult member, conditioned to do nothing but submit to men. Next, she had many health issues and was in the twilight zone after seizures. Next, she was in shock from losing her husband. Finally, it was clear that the detectives had made their mind up, were accusing her and weren't giving her her rights.

[@jeanettevandiver945]

She said, at least twice, that she wanted an attorney. They bullied her after that. Crooked cops.

[@jameskorner6611]

Yup

[@debbielasalle5472]

May she did it

[@patrickfaulds5683]

This is something I tell people whenever I get the chance: You cannot be vague when requesting a lawyer. She mentioned a lawyer at least twice, but it was always worded along the lines of "I think I might need a lawyer." Unfortunately, a lot of times that isn't enough. Thinking out loud about possibly needing a lawyer does not legally constitute a request. When talking with the police there are only two things you need to say: First, "Am I being detained?" If they say no, leave. If they say yes, "I want a lawyer" and then, and this is just as important as the request itself, STOP. TALKING. After you've requested a lawyer they cannot continue to question you, but if you voluntarily keep talking - and it's amazing how many people do - everything you say is still admissible. So request a lawyer if your being detained, then shut the hell up.

[@curtebner8134]

It’s Texas

[@derp8575]

You're going to wish you were in Texas when it hits the fan. @@curtebner8134

[@joanmargaret4899]

If she were passed out or having a seizure, why would they kill her? They probably didn't want to kill him either, but he caught them in the act.

[@hollystiener16]

Amazing point. I hadn't thought of that. Also the husband caught them and had the gun and they attacked him.

[@Ekinnajay]

This is what I thought. And then tie her up so if she comes to, she can't go anywhere. If the guy lived in the neighborhood, he likely knew where the cameras were and maybe knew something about the neighbors and their habits.

[@stefan2005stefan]

not proof but why intruders stab up like 50 times ? personal does a 50 . then cleans up then loose tied ropes = not proof but we know that does not happen if you are restraining ,but does wen u r staging.

[@nena8692]

The "what do you think should happen to the murderer" question is so interesting. We all know they ask that. A good liar knows exactly what to say. It seems that question might not be effective for everyone, but I am going to Google it right now, because I'm curious. Good video!

[@newtonmoon]

yes, there are psychopathic liars. however, I'd argue that if she was one, that would have been known before. the mask always slips in one situation or the other.

[@KackieJennedy]

This case annoys me to no end. First, I can't stand unsolved cases (and to my mind, this case constitutes as one) Secondly, I do think she's innocent, and injustice in general angers me. Her interrogation is a demonstration of the absolute incompetence of some law enforcement, which happens quite often. (*Sloppiness* is the right word; I just meant to seem level-headed😒 )

[@sebastianelytron8450]

"I do think she is innocent" then proceeds to give absolutely no explanation as to why. Well I "do think she is guilty" in that case.

[@coolinmac]

Are you slow? Thankfully you aren’t a judge.

[@orangewarm1]

No one came in the house. The doors were locked. What's the logical answer?

[@kathduncan9618]

I can't work out why the husband couldn't just have slapped her off him. He had defensive wounds according to this, so surely he fought and could have just kicked her off. That's what suggests an intruder theory to me. Weird case. And she's dumb as rocks in the police interview.

[@Mandy-Lee]

@@coolinmac you insult everyone who doesn't agree with you? Get a life!

[@lisasowers9272]

Only thing that confuses me is why isn’t she visibly upset and sad that her husband of many many years was just murdered!? But they really were a happy couple got along well and that night having a romantic evening….

[@DrTiwade]

Exactly. That itself is extremely and unbelievably suspicious. She is not at all shocked!

[@ljsoar6139]

Only her version of events. Supposing it was a farewell meal, maybe he wanted out and she asked to go for one last meal. Makes more sense now doesn't it? He was thinking of retiring, maybe he was thinking of leaving.

[@mrsjal8616]

I don’t believe she’s did! Unbelievable how can they lockup someone with no evidence against her! No cuts or bruise on her wrist arms or hands. I hope a better lawyer get her case 🙌🏻🙏

[@coreywilkinson2778]

I remember this case. Even if she did manage to do this with all her physical ailments the prosecution failed to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. I mean, hell, we just heard one of the jury members say that they decided she was guilty because "IT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT MADE SENSE." How in the hell has her appeal been denied TWICE?! What an incredible injustice, smdh...

[@Jscaff859]

this is justice served my friend, too many people think otherwise, most cases are solved with worse evidence, this was clear she drugged him tied him up and stabbed him and then she told the police she didn't remember anything that night LOL HAHAHAHA shes not a genuis is she?

[@daisylavenderlove]

@@Jscaff859 wtf, are you dumb? There's absolutely no motive for her to have done that. They were happily married grandparents with a healthy relationship. There's absolutely no evidence pointing to the contrary- no DV, no affairs, no friends or family members who've mentioned any issues confided in them. There was unfamiliar DNA at the scene, items missing, & for all of the defensively wounds the husband had, Sandra would have had evidence of fighting someone if she were the perpetrator! What a pathetic jury! I hope they all rot, freaking imbeciles. This is a disgusting injustice.

[@juliehicks8459]

I don't think there was enough evidence to even get past the grand jury, right?

[@coreywilkinson2778]

@@juliehicks8459 Not that I heard or saw, but maybe I missed something... As LK commented, people have been convicted on far less evidence. Sad but true!

[@jokesonyou1373]

C'mon man. She did it. She's not as crocked as she's making out. Twisted woman.

[@CLM277]

I feel sorry for her husband he looked like he was very sweet.

[@DrTiwade]

Yes looks like a simple decent man.

[@jessicaalvarez3550]

Jim was an AMAZING human being. It breaks my heart his life ended the way it did. I was just a teen when he died. At the funeral no one talked about what happened to him, and my parents said it was a heart attack. I actually didn't find out about any of this until a few months ago when I came across a video... I was shocked. Jim was a fairly small guy, but he had such a strong character. He was funny, hard-working, loyal, soo committed to being a good husband and a father to Lizzy, and just an overall very kind-hearted and sweet man. Whether people believe Sandy did it or someone else, at the end of the day, Jim did NOT deserve what happened to him.

[@derp8575]

He gave off those vibes to me. Seems like a man's man. Guessing he was politically Conservative. Is that an accurate portrayal? @@jessicaalvarez3550

[@aldinlee8528]

@@jessicaalvarez3550It is interesting, though, that she apparently never did take a polygraph test. That fact is not something the jury would be told, but it makes me think more that the verdict was just. She could take multiple tests, if she felt the first one produced false results. Especially once convicted, you'd think she would take one.

[@helenaville5939]

@@aldinlee8528 There are some people who should never do a polygraph and I'm one of them. Why? Because I do pain management for a foot injury from a car accident 25 years ago. Chronic pain can affect your heart rate. When the pain increases from time to time your heart rate can increase accordingly. You have no control over this. A polygraph is 100% based on rate of change of your heart beat or pulse. Sandra had several chronic illnesses. I would be surprised if she was not on some kind of pain management for one or more of them. I'm not saying she was innocent. I don't know. But I do believe there was sufficient doubt in the case presented, and that it's a travesty to convict a person on such flimsy evidence. Her lawyer's performance at the Appeal (on Zoom) was not impressive.

[@TentinQuarantino_]

I am usually skeptical of convicted murderers who claim innocence, although I try to remember there are many cases of wrongful conviction. But I really strongly doubt the validity of this case and it upsets me a lot that the safe handle was never tested, the foreign DNA was never tested, and the items which were missing from the house weren’t listed. Plus the xbox in the backpack in the garage strongly does point to home invasion robbery.

[@just_tee_]

I love reading people's comments and opinions because you get such a different pov after watching & listening to the TC story. Sometimes i miss things when watching it

[@newtonmoon]

Yep, we can all learn from each other :)

[@lisaloporto6944]

This is such a tricky case and I'm not convinced she's guilty.They never looked into the DNA that was found at the scene or followed up on the convicted burglar who was seen in the neighborhood that night.

[@Kunfucious577]

Doesn’t matter after her rights were violated. These cops should’ve been fired.

[@janicescott7338]

Her daughter said the Innocence Project is trying to get the DNA tested

[@lisaloporto6944]

@@janicescott7338 That's great!!

[@SerenDipity64711]

why do you think they did that?

[@lisaloporto6944]

@@SerenDipity64711 I don't know.Sloppy police work maybe?

[@versaillestheeverything]

It's not crazy to believe she possibly had a seizure during the home invasion while her husband was being attacked, causing the intruders to freak out and just leave her...

[@clarisaantiagingdermatology]

This poor lady is definitely INOCENT. The jury didn't consider the robbery and garage being opened 😢😅

[@NellLynnPerera]

Unbelievable that her husband could have so many defensive wounds but not be able to kick her stick or leg if it was her AND not to mention not one single scratch or even a small cut or graze was found on her if she was the killer. I hope the Innocence Project will be successful at exonerating her.

[@SAVEDbyAGAPE]

She did it, end of story! I can't believe how st 00 pid, naive and easy to deceive Americans are! 🤯🤣😂🫣🫣🙄 No wonder you are the most brainwashed, blind and indoctrinated nation in the world, believing in politics and the FAKE left and right dichotomy of your Luciferian politicians!!! Congratulations, your public education system was a great success! For the devil. Wakey-Wakey! 🚨⏰⏰ PS. Ever heard of liars? Deceivers? Criminals? Who actually lie, deceive, connive, and stage things in order to get away with PREMEDITATED crimes and murders?! Are you 5 years old living in a fairytale, or just r3 tar ded? 🤔🤔 Did you miss the part where it was said that *none of the doors in the front or in the back were opened* ON CAMERA, and no one at all has come in or out?!? 🙄 And BTW: asking for a lawyer actually sounds like "I want a lawyer, I am not talking anymore"❗️ Not "I think I need a lawyer...; maybe I need a lawyer..." Those are just thoughts out loud, and the legal system doesn't care about those! Wow. BLIND gullible people defending this Psychopathic MURDERER are a clinical case...! I guess you do indeed deserve your government and "president" every time. 👍👍

[@dessyekasaputri8276]

She is innocent

[@janetpendlebury6808]

She could have hired someone to kill him, and then staged everything.

[@TruthDissident]

​@@janetpendlebury6808I think she tied him up under the guise of sex and killed him. He was found naked and they were in the jacuzzi at one point.

[@DrTiwade]

​@@TruthDissidentright

[@traceyo428]

They thought it was her from the beginning. They also ignored her request for a lawyer and kept badgering her. I cannot believe she is denied a retrial. Shame. Her DNA would have been all over her husband if she did the stabbing.

[@AdelineCowgirl]

Do you realize how many people are murdered and have no foreign dna on their body?

[@blarmy827]

Her dna was all over him bc they were together that whole night lol nobody said her dna wasn’t on him? Also she never requested a lawyer technically which is why they continued questioning her. “I THINK I need a lawyer,” is not the same as stating that you want a lawyer and aren’t going to talk until you speak with one. She mentioned one vaguely again when they talked about the polygraph… but again.. she did not affirm that she wanted a lawyer…. And that is a small technicality that ppl need to understand better for their own good. You need to firmly state you want a lawyer and you stop talking… even if they ask questions… you shut your mouth.

[@clarissa8477]

His blood wasn’t on her, that was one of the main things that should’ve proven her innocence. No way could this have been beyond a reasonable doubt imo, but a lot of people don’t understand what that means. The defense really needs to hammer the meaning home to the jury. And she didn’t ask for a lawyer, so the cops didn’t violate her rights.

[@juan3zz]

Please explain why none of the Several Video Cameras on the neighbors homes showed anyone entering or leaving the house on that day??

[@maceyanna]

That’s just it though. He’s her husband. Her DNA will be all over him regardless. I’m not 100% convinced she did it, but the police *did* do a shitty job.

[@mariolab2891]

The DNA could have been planted, things could have gone missing days before the murder to be made to look like it was on the night, she could have been having issues in her marriage and wanted out, honestly it’s such a hard case to determine. If it was her she didn’t act alone. The police definitely were not professional and it was disturbing to watch them interrogate her. I guess we’ll never know what the “truth” really is.

[@JulianCalibrese-jr9rr]

could have, would have.. thats not reasonable doubt. thats speculation.

[@somebody700]

They have guests so it's not outwardly for some guests to leave DNA in the house they visited. So I don't see how that is remotely significant given the house was locked up from the inside aside from the garage door that security footage proves nobody used to get in or out of the house. There could be nobody aside from her in that house with Jim when he was murdered. If that isn't evidence of guilt nothing is.

[@davidwong4821]

The way she behaved in the interview room and answered questions was strange, did she seem like a wife who had just lost her husband and she didn’t hear anything… The motive may have been she wanted a divorce or the life insurance money. I wonder if other people heard them arguing?

[@angelwings7930]

I agree she acted very oddly. And who would break in, totally slaughter him but tuck HER into a closet, unhurt ? 🙄🙄🙄

[@angelwings7930]

@@lindyt3942 And all for what ? It wasn’t even a major robbery. So yeah, no.

[@gj5990]

He could have an enemy who didn’t want to kill her. The only thing they wanted was him dead. If she’s hit from behind the killer knows she didn’t see them. People who have a lot of seizures don’t always act like other people emotionally. I know two people like this and they can act “off” and have memory issues.

[@paulchristopher8634]

@@angelwings7930- Maybe she had taken out a life insurance policy and the company would only pay out after his death

[@paulchristopher8634]

@@gj5990- An accomplice you mean. Seems feeble considering she could not have tied her hands and legs by herself

[@katieharris7161]

This case really broke my heart. From the get go, blaming her never seemed right, yet everyone kept pushing it.

[@grim_lion]

The way I gasped when they found her guilty. This is horrific.

[@CaitlinFarida]

same

[@cityboyis2]

@@CaitlinFarida she is guilty as can be.

[@jdbakerassociates]

They should, she killed her husband😂🤷🏽‍♀️ she had all day to clean up after the real killers

[@SerenDipity64711]

@@jdbakerassociates do you think she paid other people to kill her husband?

[@TruthDissident]

​@@SerenDipity64711I think she killed him probably when he was vulnerable or tied up.

[@HeribertoPabon-bq6cv]

Guilty or not she asked for a lawyer..twice

[@noelvoss6744]

This is one of the few cases where I'm indecisive. They violated her rights when she asked for a lawyer, not looking into the other DNA, she's chronically ill, not listing stolen items. If I were on the jury, I couldn't say beyond a reasonable doubt that she is guilty.

[@nancydugan5283]

I was a nurse for 30 years and suffer from rheumatoid arthritis. It doesn’t take a medical professional or one who suffers similar handicaps to see that this woman was physically incapable of committing this crime. Just from watching the video of her police interview, the way she walked and her instability, prove the impossibility of her being able to commit this crime. I just can’t believe she was convicted. She ask for a lawyer twice that I saw. Doesn’t that matter anymore? Oh well, I forgot this is Texas!!

[@none-ov4qx]

Yes that was my thought: texas

[@CB-vt3mx]

I watched a 5 foot 4 inch man in Afghanistan keep fighting for almost 20 minutes after being shot multiple times. The argument here is that pain prevents such actions, but that is empirically false. She did it, End of story.

[@wendigo1919]

Chronic pain does not prevent one from stabbing one's husband, especially when adrenaline kicks in. You're absolutely incorrect. That is if, in fact, she does suffer from these illnesses and her health did not improve as the reports indicated. One can very easily pretend to be feeble and be quite able-bodied, but again, adrenaline is a fascinating natural drug the body produces. A serial killer in New Orleans who was a small, weak and disabled man killed many larger men through sheer force of adrenaline. It can very well happen... I also think there was sufficient doubt in this case to prosecute her even though I do personally think she is guilty.

[@katarzynamariamuszynska2811]

What does to do with Texas?

[@dusanoljaca2585]

Unless she hired someone to do the job.

[@johnnywalker4857]

Considering the number of times he was stabbed, there would have been evidence of that on her hands and she had none. The authorities had tunnel vision and their forensics team did not do a thorough enough job processing the scene.

[@Kuyetgaiya]

Exactly. The handle of a knife gets slippery in a stabbing. She should have had a nick on her hands or sth

[@neomaboure5236]

I'm really into crime shows & when someone stabs someone they pretty much always cut their selves while doing the stabbing. It looks like those cops didn't even bother to look at other possible suspects. They made up their minds the first time they interrogated her.

[@Sisflowflow]

She had plenty enough time to clean up evidence. I have no reasonable explanation for someone else committing this heinous crime. It would’ve been an overkill for a random burglar. Also, why would a burglar use one of their kitchen knives. A burglar would come prepared …doesn’t make sense so it’s reasonable to assume that it’s the wife.

[@traybern]

You DOPE!!! She had 17 HOURS to CLEAN UP!!!!! Stage the scene, dispose of evidence…et CETERA!!!!! And THEN “tie herself up.”

[@janetpendlebury6808]

She could have hired someone to kill him.

[@JoyfulNSmilling]

What a miscarriage of justice and what a lousy and unintelligent jury pool! Good grief!

[@iaindodds]

With how many knife injuries the man suffered, including skull fractures, the attack would have taken a lot of strength and energy, which I doubt she would have, not to mention, surely with such a fierce attack she’d have cuts on her hands from the knife.

[@FourHuskyHomestead]

I feel so sorry for the daughter. It’s not easy to see your parents suffer.

[@traybern]

NOR to KNOW that ONE of them MURDERED the OTHER!!!

[@angelwings7930]

She’s odd looking. Super skinny bow legs. And the whole family looked under 5 feet tall.

[@angelwings7930]

@@traybern. I think she’s guilty too.

[@TheLochs]

I've seen this case and I'm not convinced she was involved. There was plenty of doubt in my eyes.

[@vickil3256]

I agree with you.

[@sebastianelytron8450]

Then what's the alternative? You do realize you need to come up with an alternative, right? There is even more doubt that a third party was involved. With proper research (she must've planned it for months) it's absolutely possible to stage a scene that convincing. She's guilty as sin.

[@GorFrag]

this is a case where the doubt is very reasonable. I don't kn9ow how those 12 figured she's legally guilty

[@selticid]

@@sebastianelytron8450 that’s the thing, is in the American justice system ideals, you DON’T have to prove an alternative. The defendant is innocent until proven guilty. Is there a possibility she did this crime? Certainly. But the amount of questions surrounding that is plenty of reasonable doubt that should have prevented her conviction. The system was built to let 10 guilty people go rather than imprison one innocent person. Even if she is guilty, for the sake of innocents around the county, she should never have been convicted. Setting that standard would doom many innocent people. There’s just too much doubt.

[@faridaaminy9734]

I seriously don't believe that she killed her husband.

[@Joyof...]

How many times does she have to ask for a lawyer ???? These guys should be fired !

[@ericahenderson7093]

The fact that she's so calm and I hysterical crying for marriage of over 30 years is beyond belief this makes me doubt that she's innocent

[@JetCityJester]

Here's a rational explanation for that - "The medicine I take for my epilepsy leaves me in a docile and compliant state, that is what you're witnessing in the police interview...." Also - not everyone processes trauma the same - most liars over -act their grief in the interview room

[@newtonmoon]

You have a point, but people are so different. We cannot form conclusions like this. If somebody had a troubled childhood, they may have reverted to maladaptive strategies like dissociation, trying to avoid all feelings to survive in their dire surroundings. The trauma can make you react in ways that don't seem normal to most people who haven't had a bad experience. Triggers in adulthood can activate these childhood memories and you sob, and sob and you don't know why if you haven't' managed to realize what happened to you and got therapy.

[@jeffjones3040]

Let us all hope no one around us is ever murdered, for the obvious reason, but also because the cops and prosecutors will try to pin it on us! This is absolutely horrifying!

[@coolinmac]

They pinned it on her because she did it. It’s clear as day.

[@KarlMarxFanClub]

@@coolinmac I’ve watched this case play out. She may have done it, but not beyond a reasonable doubt. Definitely, not guilty.

[@Endo1991]

​@@coolinmac you're smoked out, the poor woman is frail and what about the backpack with DNA of a woman and the serial thief.

[@chidozietoplis9960]

@@Endo1991 exactly! this whole thing makes no sense whatsoever

[@jeffjones3040]

@@coolinmac ...Clear as day? No. Even if you think she is guilty, it is still not THAT clear and obvious!

[@sarahewson3607]

The interrogation was infuriating. They absolutely made up their minds and made up stories to accommodate their theory, simultaneously throwing out evidence that was inconvenient for them. Every single person described the couple as happy together. While I know well that what happens behind closed doors can be very different from what everyone else sees, SOMEONE would have known if there was violence happening. She could not have inflicted that much damage to him because of her illnesses. I hope the Innocence Project can help her.

[@sebastianelytron8450]

Please enlighten us what evidence they threw out that was inconvenient for them? AND, if you would be so kind, how this evidence points in any way to there being a third party involved with a high likelihood?

[@LeonFelixRusso]

@@sebastianelytron8450 No motive. Where's the bloody clothes? Why no bruises, cuts, or marks? (It's a near impossibility, and she couldn't have planned this ahead). Even the door trick - I've seen thousands of investigations and this is the first time I've heard of it. All the 'guilty' commenters here say it's an obvious simple trick, but that's *after they've seen it. It certainly isn't widely used. Substantial differences in physical ability. Things might make more sense if there IS another perpetrator. Also, the cops discounted her memory loss because of no apparent head trauma, which is remarkable, because anyone with even a basic understanding of epilepsy or blackouts knows that these can be triggered by stress, especially an extreme stress like being assaulted. If you consider that she HAS been attacked, then her story makes sense.

[@daily9930]

Yeah right this woman is guilty as sin. I don't think so she got what she deserved. 1+1 = 2 and not 1+1 = 3. Your husband is murdered and you stay so calm you right. Such a big attack and the neighbour did not hear anything. The dogs did not bark.

[@TheRight-handedStranger]

With so much blood and having to stub him 50 times there is no way she won’t have any scratches and blood on her.

[@sebastianelytron8450]

@@TheRight-handedStranger My sweet summer child. She had all the time in the world to clean herself up.

[@Doriesep6622]

why didn't defense call a doctor to testify her blacking out was plausible and since she had a history of seizures

[@thomasnorman4221]

Public pretender for a lawyer

[@sharontaylor2274]

My Deepest Condolences Go Out To Jim Family and Friends✝🙏🏽💜🕊

[@coralandpuppies1582]

She was so easy to distract for them. Ignored her request for a lawyer and she didn't even notice. Very sad to watch. Also very worrying.

[@ethanwiles1798]

she never asked for one, she said "i THINK i need a lawyer"

[@coralandpuppies1582]

It is another way of "talking to yourself" meaning she had analyzed the situation and was saying that she needed a lawyer but expressed it in a different way. A proper reaction would have been "Do you need/Would you like a lawyer?" Asking her this would have of course interfered with the tactic they were using on her so they ignored it. @@ethanwiles1798

[@creativetreats2011]

I’ve always believed these rules: 1. Even if innocent ask for a lawyer 2. Don’t take a polygraph 3. Unless they have a warrant don’t give anything to them 4. Don’t drink liquids directly from any cup or touch it 5. Don’t assume police are being nice because they believe you are innocent

[@maimccoy5967]

L

Yes, they want your DNA.

[@april2615]

Whether she committed the crime or not - this whole case was botched from the word go

[@jakea5915]

23:45 I'm just amazed that the authorities GAVE UP after that one male suspect refused to respond to them... I don't get it. I think that maybe Sandra paid that man to kill Jim, and then they staged Sandra being tied up? It would explain why Sandra wasn't harmed

[@bluegreenglue6565]

And the unknown DNA? What about that? There are much better ways to track identity with DNA now than there were even a couple of years ago. I wonder if it's been "misplaced." My opinion is that the officers wanted her to be guilty very badly.

[@Metalsuitman]

Unknown means ignore if it doesn’t fit the narrative. Why not take the polygraph?

[@averagejoette1570]

I'm really upset at the fact that she repeatedly told them she wanted a lawyer and they acted like she didn't say anything. On the other side , I can't get around no ligature marks.

[@cathybassett6432]

Maybe no ligature marks because she was unconscious and not fighting her restraints.

[@shannonrousu9348]

I thought the same about the ligature marks but if she went into a stress induced seizure they may have just loosely dealt with her and even thought she was dying, therefore leaving her to do so on her own. No need to be aggressive if she is already incapacitated. How could she have accomplished the murder, binding him and dragging him into a closet plus drag a towel to close her closet with a chair actually propping it closed and all so with her frailty and a cane?

[@joseph-ft7qk]

She suggested that she wanted a lawyer but continued to talk. That's her fault. She was also NOT acting like a grieving widow. If she didn't commit the murder, then she must be a sociopath.

[@marahbaker8615]

​@@joseph-ft7qkany mention of a lawyer counts.

[@lindabrennan4455]

On TV any mention counts.......just kidding.

[@duckydarrick7460]

As soon as she says the word lawyer he is legally obliged to shut up and leave her alone

[@hleigh7201]

This hurts my heart. It's insane to me that the female and male DNA was just ignored, along with many other facts. She should never been questioned further after twice expressing her concern for an attorney. But then again, after OJ, Casey Anthony, thousands of other convicted innocent people, and my own experiences, my faith in our justice system is non-existent.

[@thomson872]

Johnnie Cochran admitted that OJ committed the crime after the trial.

[@HVAC356]

You were naive to have faith to begin with. They just want a conviction. They don't care about the truth. If they can arrest someone, why should they continue, off to the next scam

[@juan3zz]

Please explain why none of the Several Video Cameras on the neighbors homes showed anyone entering or leaving the house on that day??

[@TruthDissident]

​@@juan3zzNot just that but there is an angle this video isn't covering. Her motive. The daughter and father had a major falling out years before this & she essentially was put out of the family due to conflicting beliefs with the JW lifestyle. I believe this is the real reason for the murder.

[@paulchristopher8634]

@@juan3zz- But that’s no enough evidence

[@renaissance5300]

I also noticed at the end in prison when she was asked if she killed him and she started blinking fast is a sign of lying

[@suejohnson8457]

I noticed the blinking too Think she did it or hired someone to do it

[@renaissance5300]

thanks sue anniversaries can go very wrong and I absolutely agree some women can have quite a few dead husbands before the police catch on cause women are so sweet and sneaky @@suejohnson8457

[@wolfdefender01]

It looks more like she’s blinking back tears to me. Her eyes are watery and her voice sounds like she’s trying not to cry.

[@katvaj9618]

Having seizures is no joke and a person can pass out from a seizure for more than 12 hours! Even the side effects afterwards is dangerous with racing heart rate increased, shortage of breathing, coldness, fever, etc. And yes you can go on for months without having an episode!

[@ooCHICOoo]

my goodness unbelievable case thank you for sharing

[@Wildcat221]

There’s tons of reasonable doubt in this case, surprised they found her guilty. I guess she could of done it but the threshold for doubt is definitely there. I would of stuck to not guilty if I was on that jury. Interesting case. Wondering how she would of overpowered him… she looked frail. Doesn’t seem like there was an affair either which is usually the cause of most of these husbands and wife murders. Crazy story.

[@M1985-]

Would HAVE

[@McChrister]

@@M1985- Thank you…..!!🫵🏼🫣😂

[@lindanichole290]

I feel like there was definitely a hold out, yet with long days of being on the jury i can see why they can be easily convinced to “fall in line” just to get it over with ya know? They want to go home. Its been days if not weeks of not having a normal life for them and at the end of the day, its not their life so letting a stranger rot in jail might not bother everyone.

[@YTfancol]

Could have / Would have

[@krissykriss328]

I have no doubt in my mind it was her that did it, and possibly a hired hitman. Crime scene experts know what they are doing and they said it was staged! She didn't see or hear anything? Come on.

[@aqua-mina]

This story was always strange to me. She seems innocent, a lot of things dont add up.

[@alteredcatscyprus]

I don’t see any reason to doubt she did this. The date she chose, a wedding anniversary, couples often argue on days that are supposed to be romantic, because expectations are high. That athlete in Australia killed his girlfriend on Valentine’s Day. Her knowing that her family was expected at their home imminently and would find her, would help play into the story she was crafting, she was in no danger of not being found, and they would be witnesses. That kind of stuff may not be evidence, but it’s very suspicious, and I completely understand why police zeroed in on her. The hot tub full, the knife in there, her blouse in there, that’s why she was so clean. Finally, what she said…when he didn’t return, she got out (of the tub) to “change” - not to dress - but to “change clothes”. She fumbled with that part of the story unnecessarily, and a lot. She gave herself away with her first statement and she knew it. Why would she need to change her clothes if she were naked? She wouldn’t. She would have said, “I put some clothes on,” or “I got dressed.” Nah. No doubts for me.

[@sweetanila26]

Good points. The physical evidence is strange in this case.

[@Sisflowflow]

She seems the only likely suspect

[@amywill9185]

She didn’t do it.

[@sonjenerina2908]

That athlete not from Australia he is from South Africa Oscar pistorius

[@alteredcatscyprus]

@@sonjenerina2908 Thanks for correcting me.

[@Rockinchick11]

This should have been overturned on a technicality!! They continued to question her AFTER she asked for a lawyer!! This in itself should have at least gotten her a new trial. Wtf???

[@electroluxia]

Neighbors had cameras, and no one entered the house. You can fake infirmity - and the doctor's reports said, "recently, no seizures, no seizers, no seizures getting better," etc. She played that lame "seizure" plea to the max. She knew she was on video the entire time she was in the police station and did a great job making sure her “needing” the cane was on video. Additionally, she was not at all convincing with the police, but was more concerned with how things "looked for her" rather than wanting to be 100% cooperative and intent on the police finding the "killer." Yes, she could have been in "shock," but she was evasive and kept her face hidden in her hair, evading direct eye contact with the police, and had to be prodded, asked if she was “concerned about her husband” as she was not cooperative. Also, if she was not directly involved - didn't actually stab her husband - she could have hired someone to kill him and then split the MEGA life insurance with them. "I woke up. I can't remember anything. I didn't hear anything. I didn't see anything." BS. The fight her husband put up was long, intense and sustained. Her story just absolutely does not add up - and her friggin' neighbors agree her story doesn't add up.

[@michaelblum4557]

I’m not 100% convinced she’s guilty but I can’t understand the comments here confidently asserting her innocence. The neighbor’s cameras (showing no activity all night around the entrances to her home), the night owl neighbor’s testimony, the weirdly staged ‘robbery’ scene… This is clearly not an ordinary robbery-motivated home invasion. Something is clearly off.

[@SanketKulkarni10]

The toxic believe all women parade has gone too far. it’s like Rich Cooper says the unconditional love is only reserved for women, babies & pets.

[@coolinmac]

People are thick.

[@LaTerfaMexicana]

I agree. I don't think she did it, but it's possible she did.

[@amymckay23]

@@coolinmac Not as thick as your ego.

[@jrasicmark1]

I forgot about the security cameras, but I was thinking when it was mentioned them in the video that I wish they would have talked about them a little more. Because the cop seemed to say that only one of the neighbors' cameras had a good view of the garage, but they didn't mention where the other cameras were pointing. She mentioned a doggy door to the back yard, and they found female DNA and she thought she remembered a female voice. I just wish they had followed up on that, because it's possible a petite woman could fit through a doggy door. And there was also the guy with a burglary record who was seen in the neighborhood that day who they never bothered to interview.

[@susanrobinson-browning4687]

Really love the longer, more fact-packed episodes. You both do AMAZING hard work!

[@deborahbergman3566]

She's a rockstar.

[@carmenlebron5184]

I might be wrong, but I thought that the moment she said "I want a lawyer" they had to stop the interview. And she said it twice.

[@johnshinya7448]

What part of twice asking for lawyer - did the interrogaters not understand? Apart from being a master "stage manager" - what part of her physical demeanor including, epileptic fits - led them to think she was was able to make things "dissappear" from the House - including a TV? 😢

[@lisacolledge7624]

Congratulations, ladies. Another episode so brilliantly done. You two are going places, I'm sure. ❤️

[@TheGeekDotCom]

I can’t say she’s 100% innocent.. but I can say there’s no way they should’ve convicted her as guilty beyond reasonable doubt

[@dessyekasaputri8276]

Yeah sure

[@rationallyruby]

I totally agree it honestly doesn’t matter if she did it at this point, there’s not enough evidence to convict her and there was more than enough reasonable doubt. They also violated her rights!

[@deebest4202]

She had shitty lawyers defending her, they must have just sat back and collected their paycheck.

[@hashem26962]

Tough case. Police taking short cuts in my view (as always!).

[@StreetSmartMillionaire]

Shocking injustice.

[@CJLOVE23]

My absolute favorite channel! Thank you for all your hard work ❤

[@mgf7_]

Something in my gut is telling me she didn’t do this. Sad situation overall.

[@margyeoman3564]

I was glad to read on google that the jnnocence project is taking on this lady's case. And that foriegn dna was found at the scene. What a travasty of justice!!

[@matthewella8280]

i like how the detectives let her explain everything etc then told her that neghbours had cameras and no one came in after shes just explained this story but then no one came in

[@wisteriawaffle1948]

what a overwhelmingly frustrating case, i dont think shes guilty

[@jeangrey5952]

She is guilty

[@melissaclark8538]

@@jeangrey5952 No proof

[@jeangrey5952]

@@melissaclark8538 all the prof points to her, the neighbors camera shows nobody enter or left the house at all, the neighbor being right outside and didn’t see or hear anyone, oh she can’t remember anything but didn’t have a scratch on her so she wasn’t attacked. She did plan it pretty well, just not good enough.

[@melissaclark8538]

@@jeangrey5952 How did she attack and murder her husband with her illnesses without getting a 'scratch on her'? He'd have fought like hell. And don't say he was drugged. Show me proof of that. Oh, you can't? No? Because there isn't any. No way she could have done all that without getting a single injury. I'm pretty sure someone could have gotten in that house without being seen on the neighbor's cameras. And she doesn't remember because she had a seizure. You seem to be lucky enough to know nothing about seizures and epilepsy but maybe look it up sometime. Memory loss/amnesia is extremely common. So now, where is that PROOF again?

[@jeangrey5952]

@@melissaclark8538 the doctor reports say she was getting better, they said she came behind him and slit his throat, at that point he wouldn’t give up much of a fight besides maybe putting his hands up, he would be too weak to really do anything, and that’s how she was able to keep stabbing him without herself getting injured. With the camera evidence, with the neighbor that was outside and didn’t see or hear anyone, the only suspect was the wife.

[@catcadenza2493]

I’ve thought of this case every time I see other crime shows where the spouse gets off or isn’t indicted with FAR more evidence. She asked for a lawyer twice and they ignored her.

[@kianodoganofficial]

She hired people to kill her husband, which explains tge dogs barking, no forced entry, no mess in the house, no defense wounds on her, and they kept her alive.