Trump Gets the Corporate Death Penalty (And It's Getting Worse)

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[@LegalEagle]

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[@EvHervey]

Stop Spamming.@@ViableGibbon

[@EvHervey]

Even Incogni can't help Trump... but he wouldn't pay them anyway.

[@dummkompf]

I dont think it was a mistake that they didn't ask for a jury trial. He knows he can't beat the case legitimately. Legitimacy is not his game. His only hope is to get a corrupt judge that can be bribed. It's much easier to bribe or manipulate a single judge than an entire jury.

[@AskMia411]

@Legaleagle You should do a real lawyer reacts for the Bluey episode “family meeting”!!! It packs an impressive amount of trial 101 into 8 minutes. Witness tampering, cross examination, etc, and it’s cute and wholesome. Also because you seem like you could use a break from irl politics 😂

[@johnhull2582]

I think you need to look at a dictionary and revisit the Oath of Office. Words are losing their meaning with you.

[@eaglescout1984]

I don't think valuing Maralago at $750 million was overvaluing. $75 million for the property and $675 million for the national secrets stored in the ballroom and bathroom.

[@catherinesanchez1185]

Excellent point !!

[@sterlinglewis5700]

And the Saudis gave soulless Jared $2 BILLION ... for what, I wonder...

[@Simon-hb9rf]

puts a different spin on his claim of "i could've sold it to Saudi Arabia for any price" yeah i bet he could when it had nuclear missile designs as reading material in the master bathroom.

[@michaelcicero2967]

It's been such a wonderful turn of events seeing progressive liberals interested in national security and foreign military action, while conservatives clamor for spending money and resources on Americans instead. It's almost like playing musical chairs and they each sat down in each other's seats.

[@breakingbadheisenberg9703]

​@@michaelcicero2967when was that , in details where and what have Republicans ever spent money on any group outside of billionaires & millionaires.

[@JanneBernards]

The irony is that he probably would've gotten away with all this if he had never gotten into politics. America doesn't seem to care about the illegal shennanigans of the very rich, but Trump brought attention to himself in the worst possible way and insists on keep doing so.

[@Scroogs]

Imagine if people actually liked him as president. He’d still probably get away with it

[@M85619]

​@@Scroogsirrelevant at this point, he's never been likeable either ...this is him, this was always him

[@scottmatheson3346]

like hunter biden, except hunter didn't even run for office.

[@veganwolf3268]

He'll probably get away with it anyway, since the AG presented no witnesses who testified that they relied on Trump's representations. Judge Engoron allowed the AG to simply speculate and speculation is inadmissible evidence, so I would not be surprised if the judgment is reversed on appeal.

[@AlwaysANemesis]

@@scottmatheson3346 Well, it wasn't so much Hunter himself that brought the attention so much as a conga line of GOP members that have claims on claims, but no concrete evidence. The most the guy was hit with was two late instances of taxes (the thing that politicians hate, and have tried to kill the IRS over), and mishandling a gun (which the GOP doesn't care about, to the surprise of no one, since they're bought out by the NRA).

[@someguycalledCh0wdah]

It's beyond ironic that a shady businessman who's being busted for fraud and misquoting property values would be screwed by the fact that his own lawyer was cutting corners

[@veal_vermicelli]

His ego can only afford the 'yes men' lawyers 😂

[@nathanfuelling2577]

Heh he "forgot" to check the box.

[@dazzlemasseur]

​@@nathanfuelling2577oh my god can you imagine if that lawyer took the job as a horse of Troy. He went in to bring Trump down. That's so rich.

[@cameronwalker294]

No sane person believes that mar a lago is worth a paltry 20 million. You'd have to be a lunatic, or a dem, to believe it.

[@gamer7916]

It’s called Karma

[@hephsmith3738]

Court: "Nice evaluation, Mr. Trump. How about you back it up with a source?" Trump: "The source is that I made it the f*ck up!"

[@viscountslappy5085]

Any body else just wishing all these corrupt banks and shady corporations would get hit this hard for their misdeeds? Tired of seeing rampant fraud and corruption punished with a slap on the wrist fine.

[@sublimnalphish7232]

And all those in the gov that have overstepped also. He had/has friends and even those he acted as if weren't friends to ( hillary and Bill). The laptop and it's owners father etc (those in both parties) you know drane the swamp that is Washington DC. Would be nice 🥰

[@ChiCityLady]

The banks that loaned Trump money based on the false property values are going to take a hit. He doesn't have enough money to repay the loans and the properties aren't worth enough to cover the loans if they're sold.

[@spacecadet0]

Remember the Panama papers? See anything done about it?

[@nickmccack]

​@@sublimnalphish7232well maybe trump shouldn't have been lying and screwing people over for decades to begin with, maybe Clinton's would be held accountable. Now it just seems like a child getting caught and trump(and his followers) are going "b-b-but they did it too!" And you didn't do anything about any of it before hand? Sus

[@haxie4516]

@@sublimnalphish7232 You're actually unhinged lmao.

[@AlixFlemmer]

Imagine having your previously lost court cases used as precedent against you in court

[@damp2269]

and it was your defense team the one to bring them to the table.

[@guadalupeestrada410]

Can't imagine anyone who could imagine that tbh

[@Kodisage]

It happens a lot actually

[@jojofashosho5344]

Its only precedent if it was affirmed by an appellate court. A trial court judgement is not precedent.

[@brylozketrzyn]

Few years back one of our corporate clients tried to steal our patents in court of law. In the meantime they tried to make us look as unreliable bussiness partner by deliberately damaging delivered goods and returning them as non compliant with order and also noncompliant to IEC standards. They were caught red handed creating false evidence. Court have dismissed all of their claims and called them legally untrustworthy. One week later client company value was so low, that it was legally transferred to our ownership as part of compensation and it was not even enough to cover all losses they created, as their market value plumetted 100-fold. Don't do stupid things in front of court of law.

[@B-Ran_the_Man]

Now this needs to continue for other billionaires. You cannot convince me Trump is the only billionaire committing fraud like this

[@LabGecko]

@@A_R_B_Gif that kind of evidence exists, why not?

[@easternsuneasternsun171]

Well apparently not since there has NEVER been a case like this . 🤔

[@Grebnedlo]

@@easternsuneasternsun171usually the ultra rich don’t like to have their wealth examined, and trump basically had a magnifying glass on him for four years

[@disabledchatzen5276]

@@A_R_B_G Show me how you plan to make an honest billion without exploiting the energy of those around you.

[@nunyabiz7699]

@@disabledchatzen5276 Its not about Trump Exploiting the common man that got him into this. Unfortunately. Laws tend to kind of favor people that do that to an extent. It was the Falsify of amounts on financial statements. Basically he was Lying to OTHER rich and powerful people. Big No no. And its also the fact that he has been doing it for a LONG time. I am sure the Multiple bankruptcies he has declared with said information will come into play should any of them be in the scoop of the time frame. BUT yeah. Not disagreeing with the need for putting Billionaires under a microscope to make sure its all up and up. But just saying what he is in trouble for here has NOTHING to do with exploiting vulnerable people. (Which yes he has done that) but more with him screwing over OTHER rich and powerful people and companies and Lying to them to get an edge.

[@IndraDaka]

Trump going political was the worst mistake of his life. You put a target like that on your back, things you and others normally get away with suddenly stop working.

[@Shadow-rt3fx]

It bothers me how he got away with it for so long… how many others are there like him? Probably the vast majority of the rich… and they get away with at the cost of everyone else.

[@videowatchaccount7551]

@@Shadow-rt3fx How did he get away with doing something he didn't do? SMH!

[@haxie4516]

@@videowatchaccount7551 He did do it though. It's been proven.

[@Shadow-rt3fx]

@@videowatchaccount7551 probably the same way you were conceived. By paying someone.

[@TheRealXartaX]

That's nonsense. Politicians get away with far more than non-politicians. And even when they are completely busted they get away with a slap on the wrist compared to non politicians. His problem wasn't going political, it was having the "wrong" politics. And if that doesn't make not just bells go off, but your entire alarm system. I can't help you.

[@rickhobson3211]

It seems to me that the defense of "I am not guilty because people had the choice whether or not to believe me, so it's not my fault" is a common one Trump and his lawyers use.

[@QuantumHistorian]

It's similar to Fox News' _"It's not a lie because we didn't expect anybody to take us seriously"_ line of thought

[@Sheer_Falacy]

@@QuantumHistorianto be fair, “it’s not a lie because no one would believe us” is a genuine defense. It’s just a bad defense when you call your program news and aren’t obviously satire. The Onion lies all the time and that’s fine. Jon Oliver mixes lies and truths but tries to make the difference clear. Fox just said whatever they wanted and mixed it all together. And official financial statements are a bad place for the lies.

[@Pensnmusic]

And most abusers/cult leaders/politicians "if they let me victimize them, it's their fault not mine"

[@Scudboy17]

Its been the defense of conmen for ages.

[@philtkaswahl2124]

They really went and attempted "trust me, bro" as a legal argument.

[@sylvrwolflol]

Watch for the next appeal when they invoke the "no tagbacks" rule of fraudulent accounting practices, and the "no u" defense for contempt of court.

[@CanisInfernus]

Technically the legal argument seemed more like "well you shouldn't have trusted me, that's a skill issue."

[@shaunpcoleman]

The old Sideshow Bob "no harm, no foul" argument.

[@guadalupeestrada410]

Or "trust me and not anyone else, bro, cannot emphasize how little you should trust ANYONE who contradicts me bro"

[@zrebbesh]

I sincerely hope that, if the right to use and profit from Trump's name and image comes up for auction, that it should get purchased by The Onion.

[@GSBarlev]

A beautiful idea, but the reality would be pretty nasty-The Onion is part of the entity formerly known as The Gizmodo Group, whose CEO is noted Herb Jim Spanfeller.

[@twistsnakeanklesvids261]

Oh God yes please

[@stacythomas9916]

LOL that idea should be crowdfunded so it can happen if the name and brand does come up for sale

[@chaosflash912]

I would contribute my own money for The Onion to win that auction.

[@realmenhavelittledogs2661]

@@chaosflash912 "Shut up and take my money now!!!!" lol

[@JuanDiazSilvermyst]

People who aren't rich end up in jail in a heartbeat. The rich and powerful get fines and a slap in the hand.

[@VitaeLibra]

If the price is a fine then it's fine for a price

[@R-SXX]

Same here in Germany with our kanzler. He probably did some shady business with a bank and their tax fraud, but who cares? He said " I don't remember" and that's it. If a normal human would do something, he would be chased over the country, put in handcuffs in in jail for 1000 years.

[@lordofthe6string]

Not even a slap on the wrist, he was somehow allowed to not be cuffed. Imagine a poor person in the same scenario, officers would be kneeling on their neck.

[@Zevox144]

@@lordofthe6string Nah the poor person's punishment would have be proportional to the charges. The accused would have "charged three officers, disabled their body cams, stole their guns, and shot themself in the back twenty seven times".

[@aaronschaefer4167]

Unfortunately he's a former president 😔 He will only be on house arrest if that. Poor people go to jail for stealing bread while he's probably going to get away with 2.2 billion dollars in real estate fraud. The MAGAs talk about "two criminal justice systems".... I'm not sure if that's so horrible because it's so Orwellen or the terrible irony. 🤦🏼they have no idea....

[@ronaldeliascorderocalles]

It's getting funnier when the lawyers are not even trying to deny anything that the prosecutors say Trump did. They are just throwing words like "total immunity from prosecution" like if that helps their case.

[@TheMisterGriswold]

Seem like a "Hail Mary" move.

[@blenderbanana]

He's a Soverign Citizen!

[@mlp_firewind8129]

I think this is the logical conclusion of trumpisms. You have this kabal of people that through ignorance or arrogance think they can simply ignore a problem or tell to go away and it will. Then inevitably you encounter a problem immune to your bs and you can’t do anything but dig yourself deeper.

[@rafram4132]

alina habba is out of her league here. she had too much on her plate. trump is abnormal, constant lies and his lawyers having to clean up. no one what's to represent him. not a worthy client. lol

[@trouty606]

Evoking the longstanding legal right of "Nuh uh!" Papers are being drawn up by Trump's lawyers now to institute the "My client is rubber and opposing council glue" defense.

[@tylerdrippon1326]

You know it's bad when the lawyers stop saying allegedly

[@beeble2003]

Sure. Though it's just the usual situation that there's no need for "allegedly" when the person has been found guilty (criminal trial) or liable (civil).

[@Wakawakawakawakawakawakawaka7]

@@beeble2003that’s…that’s the point💀

[@beeble2003]

@@Wakawakawakawakawakawakawaka7 If the intended point was "You know it's bad when you've been found guily/liable", then that point is so obvious that it's barely worth making.

[@Killer_KT]

​@@beeble2003 obvious or not, it's a good comment

[@cristlesappire21]

@@beeble2003 I think it's more so that lawyers aren't allowed to specul8 in court. No matter how 'certain' the case or evidence is, lawyers are still supposed to, (as almost a matter of formality/professionalism,) say 'allegedly' to leave room for mistakes. 8ut when even the lawyers feel the case is so clear cut there's no need for the formality of protective vagueness, you KNOW you're screwed.

[@JandarLefey]

The best line in any of Eagle’s videos ever: “No, I guess it isn’t ‘alleged’ anymore.”

[@ravenbyrd8440]

I second that!

[@The_Unholy_Nerd]

I just love the amount of professional grade shade that's been thrown by that report

[@haxie4516]

​@robertmancuso4383 He literally has made a video about Hunter's plea deal...

[@Oxijinn_]

It makes me glad that the judge is doing his utmost to prevent Trump from getting out of this. He needs to be punished just like anyone else would be.

[@DarkMatterBurrito]

So you are okay with a lying and corrupt judge? The lender has them independently assessed, it's not Trump making arbitrary numbers. His lenders said that they were not overvalued but the judge is an idiot or he's corrupt. Or could be both. Developers are pissed off too because if he says that Mar-A-Lago is only worth 18 million then that devalues everything around it also. So yeah he's an idiot.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

@@DarkMatterBurritoof course, it's on his side.

[@CreativeName574]

​@xAquinasx so you are ok with a lying and corrupt politician?

[@TheScienceNerd100]

@@DarkMatterBurrito If lying and corrupt meant properly holding those who commit crimes, then yes. But by definition, no republican judge lies or is corrupt if thats what it means.

[@DarkMatterBurrito]

​@@CreativeName574no, I'm not. But there is such a thing as actual justice and not political revenge which you seem to be okay with no matter if what the judge is saying is objectively false.

[@Alustar22]

I'm more upset that this is only coming to light now, even though there were numerous stories coming to light during his first presidential bid literally telling us ALL of this and how he lied his way into the Forbes list which helped cement his status as a business mogul.

[@unluckyomens370]

Yeah im glad at least one mega rich person is being held to similar standards as us peons sucks that the rest of them wont be held accountable though

[@phillyphakename1255]

The Forbes thing I'm kinda good with. Some guy calls you up and asks how much you are worth because they are doing a KZbin, er, magazine listicle? You fudge the numbers a bit. Meh. Guys exaggerate their shaft size, they've been doing it for millenia. But fudging your accounting books? Using that to get loans and do real business? That's not okay.

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Investigations take time... It's a process

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

This actually started a decade ago 😂. He couldn't show his tax returns for a reason

[@nathanielbass771]

The judge involved in this case violated multiple laws including impersonating an expert when he ignored expert testimony within the court room AND appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. The case has already been appealed and won at both the state and federal level... even the supposed "victims" of this stated that not only did Trump follow the law, but that Trump had repaid the loans in full.

[@Kalepsis]

WOW... I never thought it would happen. Trump has entered the "Find Out" phase of his 80-year "F*** Around" tour. This makes me extremely happy.

[@faustinreeder1075]

There is a thing called karma. She has a long memory. Be careful what you wish for.

[@horrorhotel1999]

Dude got to live big for decades on the back of and at the cost of innocent people. He hasn't got enough years left in him to make him properly pay for that. In the end, he got to live however he wanted. It is so disgusting

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

@@horrorhotel1999_"He hasn't got enough years left in him to make him properly pay for that."_ We don't know what's going to happen after we die. He might pay after he dies. The idea that the brain creates the mind's never been proven.

[@cathy4697]

His family will live with the find out part for generations

[@Rills4040]

Wish it happen much sooner but it's good all the same

[@majuuorthrus3340]

Trump: "Your honour, you can't expect me to value my assets accurately, my hands are to tiny to count on."

[@suntzu1409]

Can he actually count though?

[@huntercoleherr]

My uncle went to jail once for bouncing a $100 check. It took a couple of months for the court system to react.

[@Sochi314]

Oh justice is swift for the poor. 😊

[@katsucandy]

​@@Sochi314being poor is truly the biggest crime a person can commit 😔

[@jenna2720]

My dad worked for a Japanese corporate bank back in the 80s and 90s. Trump came to them back then asking for a loan. The Japanese bankers looked at the documents he provided, brought them to their team, and declined. Dad said that Trump was upset and tried to get them to loan him the money, saying something about he was good for the money and how he was successful. They still didn't loan to him because they said that their models showed that his financials were overinflated. So, I'm not sure why this is considered new info. It seems like it should've been well-known. I mean, it was definitely known at Dad's workplace. Edit: Just to clarify, Dad's branch of the Japanese bank was located in NYC.

[@timothystamm3200]

And that's when he had his most recent bankruptcies, so your dad's company avoided quite the loss there, and that's also why Trump shouldn't be considered to have never harmed anyone. He's stiffed lots of contractors to maintain this illusion and hurt previous lenders even if they're not the current ones.

[@angelapalmer6782]

Because the banks he was working with were dirty as well. They used trump to launder Russian money. He's as dirty as they get. Russia owns him. And Putin wants his money.😂 Careful Donnie don't walk past any high windows!!!!!

[@ilovethe80sNW]

It prob didn't make the news either, being over in Japan. And Trump stiffing workers and contractors, Polish immigrants and other little guys, wasn't salty enough for the regular media to cover and stay on top of.

[@xwarped83]

“So, I’m not sure why this is considered new info.” It isn’t, a lot of people knew that Trump was a con artist, specially people from NYC knew. But the idiots that will let him sh*t on their moms didn’t listen so this is where we are now.

[@Hiznogood]

Well, Trump himself is overinflated due way to many cheeseburgers. Seems to be a common theme for this man!

[@wayneswonderarium]

If the judge has to say "Apparently the point was not received" that's a bad sign.

[@nathanielbass771]

the judge claimed that "tax value" and "market value" were the same thing and is in hot water for ignoring expert testimony and appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. Tax value is based on constants because market value fluctuates. Market value is based on the purchasing price as currently valued. let's use a pool as an example. The tax value would be on the pool itself. The market value could include things like: how much water is included, cleaning services, the current condition of the pool, how many people visit the pool, etc As an example, compare market prices of food in different locations. At the supermarket, hot dogs are about a dollar or two. At a ball park or in certain states, they can be five dollars or more. So, which is the market value? $1 or $5? the answer is NEITHER because those are under different conditions and the market value would be determined by either a national average for store price OR based on location.

[@theDataStudent]

@@nathanielbass771 I had to do tax and accounting as part of my degree, and what I can remember is that: Tax value and Market Value are not the same, but they also aren't several million dollars apart. Because additions like "water", cleaning services and conditions aren't that big a consideration. Market value still predominantly is valued based on the pool itself. You might get a few hundred dollars to maybe a couple thousand dollars in difference. Trumps valuation is fraud, blatant and brazen. Also There is quite literally no article that has been produced suggesting that the Judge appointed himself as a representative.

[@mycosys]

LOL @@nathanielbass771

[@wayneswonderarium]

@@nathanielbass771 your example doesn't hold water. Trump & co-conspirators weren't claiming that their "hot dog" had different values in different markets. They were claiming that, at the ball park because some people don't buy a $5 hot dog, their hot dog is only worth $1. But when talking to investors they're saying that there's a scenario in which a starving Jeff Bezos would pay $7,000,000 for the same hot dog so the fair market value is $7,000,000. It's a bald face lie if you bother to glance at the facts.

[@oxydator]

@@nathanielbass771 Fact is, overstating an object's size by a large amount in order to make it appear more valuable, does indicate neither tax nor market value, but an imaginary one. And that's just one point of several.

[@TwoPairSA]

Seriously the lawyer forgetting to check the box for a jury trial is going to go down in history as one of the dumbest things in the history of lawyer-dom. I mean it has to be in like, the top 10 of the biggest examples of "for want of a nail" screwups in the history of the legal system, right?

[@dembones9275]

this dos not make any sense, isn't that just going to lead to kangaroo court's? like for what purpose dos having the option of having no jury achieve exactly?

[@lukasg4807]

I really don't understand how it's legal for clients to get screwed over by their lawyer messing up like that. It seems completely unfair, like a less extreme version of your lawyer accidentally saying you plead guilty. Same shit with Alex Jones lawyer sending a shit ton of incriminating evidence to the prosecution by accident, I don't get how someone can just be screwed over by their lawyer that hard, I'd think the lawyer would be disbarred or the evidence not admissible.

[@heroman2372]

Okay, but what if it was intentional?

[@simonteesdale9752]

​@@lukasg4807 In Alex Jones's case, it's important to note that he'd sworn those documents (which he was legally required to hand over) didn't exist. Sure it might not be entirely 'fair' to get screwed over by your lawyer like that, but when you ask your lawyer to commit crimes, what should the remedy be?

[@lukasg4807]

@@simonteesdale9752 Didn't the prosecuting lawyer contact Alex Jones lawyer giving him the chance to take back the files so they wouldn't be admissible? I don't really understand the rules around evidence but I thought the prosecution having to inform the defense and give them a chance to respond meant it wasn't something Alex Jones had to turn in.

[@nvelsen1975]

One of my friends works at Colliers International as part of a real estate appraisal team. Our last real drinking binge was when they got it wrong by € 2 million on a € 45 million property. They had to report to their client's board of directors and as he put it: By the time they were done shouting, all his hair was pointed backwards. The concept that someone acting in good faith or with correct information could get a valuation wrong by a factor of 10, is unheard of.

[@Jonteponte71]

In the case of mar-a-lago, it was even 2700%. It's like Trump himself. Unhinged.

[@nathanielbass771]

This was the difference between "tax value" and "market value", which are two very different things. Tax value is based on constants whereas market value fluctuates. I use a pool as an example. The pool itself is the tax value. The amount of water included (if any), cleaning services, the condition of the pool, how many people visit, etc, are the market value.

[@ongon6813]

@@nathanielbass771knowing the difference between tax assessment value and appraisal value does not get the “OrAnGe MaN bAd” headlines though.

[@MrStringybark]

@@nathanielbass771 I guess that makes everybody a billionaire then.

[@SloverOfTeuth]

Tax values and market values may indeed be prepared on different bases and therefore give different $ values. Neither of those bases permits the use of incorrect facts though.

[@Axetwin]

Holy crap I know EXACTLY what Trump was thinking with the Mar-a-lago estate. He was thinking HE personally couldn't develop the property but someone else could. I guarantee that was a loophole he thought he found in those papers he signed.

[@ClockworkOuroborous]

Oh, no doubt.

[@AlexanderKrell]

He legit actually tried this argument in his defence, per the judgement

[@Axetwin]

@@AlexanderKrell Did he really? I don't know if I should be proud or sad that nailed it.

[@Kylora2112]

@@AlexanderKrell "There's nothing wrong with misleading potential investors!"

[@catsupchutney]

"I pay no taxes because I'm smart" Never forget that quote.

[@nathanielbass771]

funnily enough, that's actually one of the only lies he ever told. Trump had actually overpaid his previous year by around a million dollars and used that to reduce the tax value for the next year as a credit.

[@Jason-hg1pc]

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend", never try to cheat on your taxes.

[@henlohenlo689]

taxes are taxes, if someone said they found a way to skirt taxes they are showing they are NOT smart. some tax person lied to them and duped them into fraudulently doing taxes.

[@someguy4275]

He claimed to benefit from the same tax codes as many other politicians exposing a faulty system.

[@bdbd1390]

​@@henlohenlo689nah! It's more he got out of line and than he lost his rights to do his taxes that way anymore. While other elites still do not it.

[@Cyrathil]

How exactly does Trump believe "You can't believe a word I say, and if you do, then I'm not liable for the results!" is a defense...?

[@LabGecko]

I get the feeling he's been told in person - often - that his words are meaningless.

[@rgemail]

I think it's just been working for him his whole bloated, overlong life, falling a$$-first upwards over and over, why would he stop now? All it really took was pissing off 70 percent of America nonstop for years.

[@puffena9013]

Unfortunately depending on the case that literally is a defense. Worked for Fox News with Tucker Carlson, for example, before they sacked him

[@glowyboi7175]

​@puffena9013 I don't think its a defense that would ever work in a courtroom, it ceryainly didn't for Fox 😂

[@biggynamel]

That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it.

[@RM_VFX]

I love that Trump lied about the value of property on his taxes, then as president, removed the ability for me to deduct the cost of my measly 100 sq ft home office, which I work out of full time.

[@SynchroScore]

Have you tried claiming that your home office is 1000 square feet?

[@NoTks]

@@SynchroScore thank you, I needed that laugh!!! HaHaHAhahaaaaaaaa

[@MatthewQuinton]

Something that small you are probably better off with a standard deduction anyway.

[@citronm1405]

@@MatthewQuinton We used to have the Standard Deduction as well as itemized deduction for small amounts, like work clothes or a small office space. Trump came in an changed it to one or the other. Effectively taxing working people MORE as most people don't itemize things like yachts but things like work tools that don't add up to more than the Standard Deduction. I was pissed when I did my taxes the first year Trump's tax laws went into effect and I couldn't take deductions that I had for years, but a person itemizing 30,000 ft condos wouldn't care about a measly 10,000 standard deduction being taken away.

[@MatthewQuinton]

@@citronm1405 I don't remember ever being able to take a standard deduction and being able to itemize on the same return. Am I wrong about that? It doesn't make a lot of sense that you would be able to take both because you would effectively be getting a tax break on the same purchase twice.

[@TheNaturalnuke]

I once said I wouldn’t agree with corporate personhood until a company is executed in the state of Texas… I will be watching this closely

[@dionh70]

I have a fridge magnet from over a decade ago with that same phrase on it. I find your assertion dubious.

[@blindleader42]

The original quote, which became a somewhat famous bumper sticker is" "I’ll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one." - Robert Reich

[@heszedjim9699]

​@dionh70 believe it or not, you can say something famous, and after that, you've said it. Hear me out I know it's confusing. So you see, when a phrase is famous. It's because a lot of people know it, and guess what? That usually means people say it.

[@Zaftique]

@@blindleader42*savage*, I love it

[@dionh70]

@@heszedjim9699 It seems the confusion is on your end. The OP on this thread structured his comment in such a way to imply that he was the original source of the phrase, an implication that others noticed as well, leading them to also comment in opposition to his implication of originality. I hope this helps clear up your confusion.

[@belle.m]

You would think a smart person who does shifty business deals would not bring attention to himself by running for president of the United States. He basically signed away his life because of his own ego. He deserves to lose it all and a jail cell.

[@tehevilmouse]

Your mistake was ever assuming him to have any sort of intelligence.

[@tonymills5086]

Crooks k n o w other Crooks sadly it's called capitalism I've often wondered why would anyone want to be president you catch hell from the left you catch hell from the right and your life becomes an open book personally I think Trump was shocked that he won the presidency yes he drew all the attention to himself he used the presidency to enrich himself now the corrupt and Shady business deals are coming to light most certainly appears the long arm of the law has caught up with the shyster

[@marvelouslife1309]

And just think, it all started because of his penchant for cheating on his taxes.

[@Degalon]

To be fair, the guy has been getting away with everything scotfree for literally his entire life. He's what, in his 70s now? Its a hollow victory to imprison him most likely at the end of his life.

[@Zoey-Aphrodite]

And all of his supporters need to follow suit. We have the records of everyone who voted for him. They are the real .issue. facing America, and even if Trump goes to prison, his supporters will still .exist. That needs to be rectified.

[@kravor5341]

When a lawyer casts aside the word "allegedly" and just says "it's been proven", you not only know it's indisputable fact, but you also know that person/business has no case to sue. Everyone, Everywhere, clings to the protections the term "allegedly" provides. Also Trump saying "do not believe anything" reminds me of a beautiful quote "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

[@maryhales4595]

I've been thinking of that quote since he first got elected.

[@mantistoboggan5171]

Orwell?

[@dielaughing73]

​@@maryhales4595yeah he invoked it very early on when telling his followers to disregard all news reporting.. which, by and large, they have done.

[@maryhales4595]

@@mantistoboggan5171 Yep! 1984.

[@lorenzamccoy7512]

It should he rewritten to say "The Republican Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

[@IAmNumber4000]

Unbelievable how someone achieved “billionaire” status basically by inheriting a bunch of money, not paying contractors, and lying about the value of their assets. While doing way less work than the average working class individual. The entire concept of “self-made billionaires” is so glaringly empty all the way down to its core.

[@crackersphdinwumbology2831]

there is exactly one self-made billionaire in the world, and he got there by literally inventing the Windows operating system, an infinitely reproducible and universal software as a cornerstone of all economic activity in the 21st century. It was a literal once in history confluence of factors. everyone else climbs on the skeletons of antebellum generations

[@Jason-hg1pc]

The entire concept of "discovery and civilization of America" comes pretty close, but why contrast false with empty?

[@robertjohnston8531]

Lets not forget avoiding tax.

[@SynchroScore]

The funniest thing is that he would have more money than he has now if he'd just taken his inheritance and parked it in an S&P 500 Index account. His active involvement underperformed a completely passive stock market investment.

[@WASDLeftClick]

They claim to be movers and shakers, people who innovate and create value for society, but the truth is they are simply parasites extracting value from society and hoarding it for themselves.

[@Fenthule]

2:03 For a LAWYER to lose the "allegedly" is a MASSIVE power move lmao

[@niceguyofgames9490]

As a friend of mine once simplified: “What happens when a toddler misbehaves and throws a tantrum? You take their toys away.”

[@altrag]

Except this is more the neglectful parent who failed to take the kid's toys away when they first started misbehaving 5 years ago and now he's pulling this shit in public and becoming a massive embarrassment so they take away the kid's toys, send them to bed without dinner and ground them for the rest of their lives. Trying to do all the punishments all at once. The "right" answer here would be for New York to prosecute such a high profile career criminal 40 or 50 years ago when he was just starting out and try to rehabilitate his business ethics before things got so out of control. Unfortunately they failed to do that so here we are - trying to do all the punishments all at once. On one hand its a little unfair to the kid - they were never taught any better. But on the other hand, continuing to let it slide just means they also won't be taught any better next time or the time after that.

[@TheBrothergreen]

No, its more like the bad kid finally hit that age where he's considered to be an adult and suddenly all the stuff he used to do is no longer being handled with counseling and community service. Suddenly there's actual accountability and the kid thinks its unfair. He's only being charged with the stuff he's actively involved in, though. No sign of the 70+ alleged SA's or charity scams being used to ratchet up the severity of the punishments or whatever. No "all the punishments all at once." Just no more free ride.

[@Epicname333]

The metaphor would be correct if you would take away a toddlers toys permanently instead of giving them a timeout. That’s just child abuse and in this case weaponization of the DOJ

[@TheBrothergreen]

@@Epicname333 The Doj is supposed to be a weapon against corruption and criminality. That's its entire purpose for existing. And, despite both the metaphor and Trump's childish behavior, he is NOT a child. Even now, he's not being charged with 1% of what he could be. 20 stolen documents, rather than 20,000. Zero charges related to his time in office.

[@altrag]

@@Epicname333 What are you talking about? Its not "permanent". I mean at Trump's age and given the sheer number and seriousness of his crimes, he won't likely survive the sentence, but that doesn't make his sentence "permanent". Also, its not "weaponization" of the DOJ to persecute crimes - that's their entire job. Your personal like or dislike of the accused is 100% irrelevant.

[@Woozlewuzzleable]

I used to hate hearing about Trump all of the time but not anymore.

[@whobitmyname]

Wait until he's back in the Oval Office. EDIT: for those incapable of telling, I'm not a Trump nut, I'm just a guy who knows we live in the dumbest timeline. Why would a Trump nut be watching Legal Eagle??

[@CreamAle]

Nothing like watching Circus de Soleil levels of clownery for absolutely no direct cost to your own pocket.

[@ILikeToSayCaKaw]

​@@whobitmynamethe cope is strong in this one 😂

[@Sonny_McMacsson]

@@ILikeToSayCaKaw He didn't say he'd be President at the time, just in the office.

[@Behemoth_Rogue]

​@@whobitmynamewhat happens if he loses again, you gonna try another coup? Lol

[@ShallowVA]

"Sophisticated counsel should have known better" is the kind of sentence that makes me feel embarrassed for that lawyer just by reading it. And they had to say it twice!

[@damp2269]

they put it in writing, that should hurt.

[@LLLLLB]

It’s a truly beautiful sentence. Chef’s kiss

[@apjtv2540]

Something I'm amazed Trump is taking this long to learn is that the people of NY are famous for their short tempers for a damn good reason.

[@digitalzips]

New York is corrupt and all the judges reflect this.

[@gmancolo]

F NY.

[@farhatjones683]

lol....new yawk. relevant since...never.

[@Javierm0n0]

We don't take people's bs very well this is true.

[@clixx13]

@@farhatjones683 Yeah, New York City is "irrelevant". Keep telling yourself that

[@Colm1800]

i love the "oh wait its not alleged anymore i can clown on him" lmao

[@chloesibilla8199]

From what I've learned from Elon musk and trump. Rich people who claim to be self made men are excellent examples of the Dunning cruger effect. They will run themselves off a cliff if their isn't an entire economy of people paid to keep them from doing so and even then they might do it still... pulling everyone else in their miserable company down with them.

[@artemus2]

So true.

[@yuin3320]

In the old west they'd have been found dead like any other snake oil salesmen. Just more shit to be scraped off someone else's boot.

[@Beth.H]

This makes you wonder what exactly is in Elons closet…

[@crashlight54]

​@@Beth.H Skeletons made entirely from emerald

[@lawrenceredmacher4382]

things trump has claimed to know more about than anybody: campaign finance, tv ratings, ISIS, social media, courts, lawsuits, politicians, the visa system, trade, the US government, renewable energy, taxes, debt, money, infrastructure, borders, construction, technology, drones, banking, wall street, the military, and the "horror of nuclear." they should rename the dunning kruger effect to the trump effect.

[@matthewpicchu8232]

The idea of a bidding war for the Trump brand just tickles me.

[@MrClickity]

If I had the money, I would buy the Trump brand and the Port A Potty company. Then I would start distributing Port A Trump units at festivals, construction sites, etc. for everyone to shit in.

[@ariadneschild8460]

​@@MrClickityI like that idea!

[@miral6694]

@@MrClickity "Trump Dumps"?

[@Replica_Rabbit]

The GOP should buy Trump brand and use AI and tell everyone Trump isn't the real Trump and listen to there AI

[@ariadneschild8460]

@@yesyes3010 are you dim? He wants to dissolve the constitution!

[@tofu_golem]

I'm not going to lie: it is genuinely shocking that the American justice system is finding him accountable for anything given its track record.

[@anthon33]

I can't believe they actually did something after ALL THIS TIME !!!!!!!😡

[@Paws42]

Hopefully this is just the start of him facing conseq for his actions, as well as others like him

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

Seriously. He's been operating like this, very openly, for DECADES.

[@ManiaMac1613]

The only reason it ever happened is because Trump managed to piss off enough seriously powerful people that he finally maneuvered himself into a position where his money couldn't save him.

[@nathanielbass771]

The judge violated multiple laws in the case including impersonating an expert when he disregarded expert testimony and when he appointed himself as representative of a party without permission. The case has already been appealed and won at both state and federal level...

[@Kelarys]

It is truly shocking to hear "professional lawyers" use arguments that would get you laughed out of high school debate class like "if I hypothetically sold it to the richest men alive they might be willing to pay such an unreasonably high price, so I should be legally allowed to declare it's worth that much" I'm genuinely baffled that you can graduate law school with that level of incompetence

[@jeffsstuff]

I wonder if she forgot to check the box for a jury trial or it was a conscious decision. Perhaps trumps thought is that if a jury found him to have committed fraud, it’s harder to argue they were biased compared to a single judge (he can easily assert that the judge was out to get him, corrupt, or just incompetent).

[@superheropow1]

Had that thought too, but more directly he's already claiming the court is being unfair by not allowing a jury!

[@Xkazmarx]

I'm wondering about something much grimmer: I wonder if she chose not to, knowing that if there were such a Jury, that every single one of those jury members' Loved Ones were going to be in mortal danger. If she chose not to, either to protect them... or to prevent T from getting himself in even bigger trouble when he got caught.

[@marvelouslife1309]

Didn't someone say she had a gaming laptop when she was in court? She is one serious fake lawyer.

[@alexliddell3171]

I'm going with incompetence rather than any kind of clever plan. The great thing about Trump is he pathologically cannot deal with being told no or not winning, so any reasonable and competent lawyers that have to tell him that in order to get him out of trouble were fired long ago. On top of that he doesn't have any loyalty to anybody, he straight up never pays anybody despite being an alleged billionaire, so competent lawyers who would be willing to put up with his crap don't want to work with him. So now he's left with a legal team that are not only incompetent toadies but so incompetent that they think he'll definitely pony up the money and stand in their corner when needed, which he never has. It's like the perfect echo chamber of the dumbest and most divorced from reality people on earth.

[@shamusmcwright2640]

​@marvelouslife1309 gaming laptops are usually Hugh spec and can used for more than games including graphically intense PowerPoints or video editing so it's not uncommon the see people use gaming laptops even if it's not for mainly gaming

[@joshuawilson8804]

You know its bad when a lawyer stops using the term 'allegedly'.

[@calvingarbacik272]

Listening to lawyers is fascinating, you can see the way your training effects the way you speak, the little rhetorical flourishes and substructure underneath, i really like that

[@Epicname333]

Amen

[@coricognitions]

Yeah it's really refreshing to listen to well-spoken people especially nowadays lmao.

[@JennaGetsCreative]

I'm studying accounting right now and the stance that those discrepancies are no big deal is wild. I'd fail my exams if I turned in statements that looked like that!

[@beeble2003]

It's OK. If you fail your exams, just claim that grades are subjective and that you got 750%. Who cares about exams, anyway? Allen Weisselberg doesn't know what GAAP is, so why do you need to?

[@nathanielbass771]

Then you'd also like it pointed out that "tax value" and "market value" are not the same thing... not even close. The judge even violated multiple laws in this case including impersonating an expert when he disregarded expert testimony in favor of his own opinion.

[@Styles_Breez]

​@@nathanielbass771😅 so desperate.

[@JennaGetsCreative]

@@beeble2003 Lol. I feel like he'd be even more confused if I were reporting, then, because in Canada we use IFRS not GAAP unless working with an American firm.

[@eddie6198]

​​@@nathanielbass771on the surface it would seem that "they" are all out to get Trump, buuut, the problem really seems to be that when "they" start digging in to try and find evidence of crimes....they indeed find overwhelming evidence that Trump has committed crimes lol

[@Oni_Teeth]

They're treating him like any other organized criminal; You hit them where their money is and you take away their ability to launder it.

[@dougcoombes8497]

That's it exactly. Trump can't keep his massive cons going when he has no access to funding and markets. Especially real estate markets.

[@digitalzips]

Democrat party is the most organized criminal enterprise in American history. They own all the DA's and the judges.

[@TadRichard]

"I shouldn't be punished because nobody got hurt." I'm going to try that defense the next time I get a ticket for speeding.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

I don't know if you are familiar with sovereign citizens and their whole crazy thing but that is actually a thing they try. It goes about as well as you would expect.

[@beeble2003]

@@Blasted2Oblivion No, sovereign citizens just claim that, because they didn't personally consent to the law, it doesn't apply to them. That's a totally different frivolous argument.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

@@beeble2003 Then you haven't been watching enough sovcit stuff. They come in a variety of flavors and the lack of a victim is one of them.

[@StijnHommes]

A disclaimer that says the documents have not been audited? That in itself is a reason to look more closely at the Trump organization. If his financial documents have not been audited, then what the heck did the people who were supposed to audit the books of his company doing?

[@ScarlettCatte]

They did audit his books, but he ignored their reports and substituted his own ones

[@drsunshineaod2023]

I'm reminded of Eddie Murphy's line in the classic 1980s movie Trading Places: "It occurs to me that the best way to hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people."

[@diydame7163]

“It feels like the quiet part out loud” 😂😂😂 Exactly. Trump is losing his ability to discern between illegal vs. allowed because he’s been doing illegal stuff for so long under the covers. He forgets it has to stay under the covers. We can only hope it all catches up with him.

[@KittyKatty999]

*FINALLY* a Judge does their job and serves justice! This is helping to restore my faith in the courts of America.

[@thomasbecker9676]

Now, to throw the book at sovcits and frauditors.

[@memegazer]

@@thomasbecker9676 Unlike sovcits auditors are not actually breaking any laws.

[@thomasbecker9676]

@@memegazer They are. Don't be a lens-licker.

[@kx7500]

@@thomasbecker9676How are they breaking laws?

[@memegazer]

@@kx7500 Some people think being obnoxious about your rights should be illegal I guess

[@nisagomez4366]

His crimes were common knowledge. It’s nice to see he is finally getting what’s coming to him.

[@ChiefZomms]

Hunter's illegal business with Ukraine and China? I KNOW! ITS TIME!!!!

[@worldsfunniestvideosandbes3684]

As a famous quote states “What goes around, comes back around.”

[@nickonerd]

The technical term for what Trump did is “cooking the books”

[@Jason-hg1pc]

So Drumpf's a "Breaking Bad" client?

[@horrorhotel1999]

Everyone knows that books are best served cold. That's what he gets for his poor culinary skills

[@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming]

“Cooking”? He flambeed them.

[@AegixDrakan]

Forget "cooking" the books, he MARINATED them!

[@AidanMillward]

Sounds like he’s been deep frying them

[@yagami931]

"Obviously, this court cannot consider an 'expert affidavit' that is based on unexplained and unsubstantiated 'dream[s]'" - well, I suppose this is the most professional and blatant way of saying "you're full of sh*t".

[@LillyP-xs5qe]

This is gonna be talked about in law school for years. In the motivation to new students "as long as you not this bad you doing ok"

[@rienkhoek4169]

You mean ' decades '?

[@abraxasjinx5207]

It cracks me up that chump isn't even attempting to deny any of his numerous crimes; he is insistent that if he weren't currently in political running, none of these cases would be pursued. Ok, AND? What does it matter why any legal department is looking into any of these crimes? If a crime was committed, justice must be served. Is he trying to say he would have gotten away with it if he had just laid low? Maybe, maybe not; but he is a career criminal by his own admission.

[@Yora21]

That's always been his greatest weakness. He just can never help himself from bragging about his crimes.

[@beeble2003]

Well, in this case, he's not denying the conduct -- he's simply denying that that conduct was unlawful. To be fair, that is a relatively common situation. For example, any time somebody denies murder or assault on the grounds of self defence, they're admitting the conduct (the killing or injury) but denying that it was unlawful.

[@MartinFinnerup]

@@beeble2003 Which makes sense when talking about self defence, but literally none of Trumps "arguments" (read half-formed thoughts) held any legal water, and half made no sense what so ever. People talk about Biden being senile (clearly not fit for presidency either), but Trump can barely form a coherent sentence. Neither of those old geysers should be president of one of the most powerful military powers in the world, although I'd rather have Biden. At least he's a lot less dangerous, and less unpredictable.

[@beeble2003]

@@MartinFinnerup I never said he was making _good_ arguments. I'm just pointing out that "Isn't even trying to deny it" is a completely normal situation and doesn't automatically imply that somebody feels they're above the law.

[@abraxasjinx5207]

@@beeble2003 no, he makes no more bones about whether his conduct was unlawful. He and his lawyers have even given up that tack with the documents case. All they have left is table thumping and whining of witch-hunts. His press statements now all focus (as much as anything he says can be focused) on the idea that if he weren't a political candidate, these crimes would be allowed to rest. He might even truly believe that everyone is as corrupt and unlawful as he is, and that only those who ruffle feathers get legal pursuit.

[@larryredenbaugh6854]

Seems like Trump really pissed off the people that were letting him get away with these things in the first place 😭.

[@arnoldrivas4590]

Why do you think this whole Trump legal debacle is taking its sweet time? The ripple effect we're seeing in real time is staggering.

[@Brasswatchman]

About damn time.

[@easternsuneasternsun171]

​@@arnoldrivas4590when it comes to property value for purchase and financings, banks have always been the ones who manage and facilitate their own appraisers . For property value for the purpose of taxes , the state appraisers office have always been the ones that manage and facilitate their own appraisers. So how exactly has trump committed fraud ? The banks have made no claim of fraud , and the government hasn't charged him with tax evasion , so how did he commit fraud if there is no victim ?

[@AsmodeusMictian]

@@easternsuneasternsun171You....do know that he lied. Repeatedly. Intentionally. For his own profit. Why do I feel like you're the kid down the street that Rudy paid to shitpost on any video that they found on this topic? I mean, sure...I might be wrong, and I'm willing to admit that. The fact that you seem so very dead set on defending him is a bit sus though ;-)

[@ilaser4064]

​@@easternsuneasternsun171 look guys I found the Faux News talking point... I guess you missed the part in this video where his (previous) accounting firm signed off on behalf of (fraudulent) evaluations provided by Trump. And no the disclaimer covers the accounting firm, as they are purely representing the claims from Donny. As for your other talking point. The court rejects the claim that because no-one was specifically out of pocket (well except the government, seeing he pulled the same shenanigans when declaring valuations at tax time) there is no crime.

[@amandamoore7512]

It’s so funny how NONE OF THIS HAD TO HAPPEN. He could have grifted for the next few decades if he simply hadn’t run for office Edit: Since I have to clarify for those lacking comprehension skills, if he hadn’t run in 2016 he would have STAYED under the radar as he has been for the last few DECADES. Rule number one of crime is don’t bring unnecessary attention to yourself

[@Poppa_Capinyoaz]

Narcissists can never see the mistakes they make, either in fore or hindsight.

[@socraytes]

In other words, e's getting indicted because he's running for office. Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud.

[@TadThorley]

@@socraytes He's getting indicted because he broke a whole host of laws.

[@sand9577]

@@etougaming2176 The prosecution started WAY before he even ran for president.

[@laartwork]

​@socraytes it started with him using campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star. That is where the truth about his fraud came out. So had he not run he could have gotten away with it.

[@njalbjorn6880]

He's scared. His demeanor is different, his voice too. The speed of his speech, the darting around of his eyes, the mild shake in his words

[@cptunderpantz9273]

"Misrepresentation,concealment, suppression and false pretense" should be the Trump family motto.

[@JohnnyThousand605]

"Calumnia, occultatio, suppressio et simulatio" according to Google translate "Comnia, acacia, spursio and simulation" according to DJT

[@nathanielbass771]

You do realize the case has already been appealed and WON at the state and federal level because the judge violated multiple laws in this case including impersonating an expert within the courtroom by ignoring expert testimony and by appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. Even the supposed "victims" have almost all stated that Trump followed the law and the loans were paid back in full.

[@robertbelardo7087]

It is on the Trump coate of arms

[@Freelancer4tehwin]

Unfortunately insufficiently monosyllabic regarding capacities oratorial.

[@zyeborm]

I took some liberties but came up with Calumniare, celare, supprimere et mentiri@@JohnnyThousand605

[@kaiyote7924]

Okay... but can we do this with all other highly affluent people. I'm thrilled that we can hold people accountable in this regard... but disheartened that much of this is happening after his transgressions are so public that they can't be ignored. Why couldn't this have been caught BEFORE presidency.

[@Fralexion]

From what I understand, during the Michael Cohen hearings, AOC asked him a bunch of questions about Trump committing business fraud and the answers he gave allowed investors to justify deeper inquiries, leading to this.

[@kaiyote7924]

@@Fralexion true. But also it makes me wonder the legal definition of asset values. And also the complexity of solid and liquid assets

[@Valyssi]

I love how, just like with his campaign, his goto defence is "If you have a complaint about me and my promises, you're an idiot for ever believing in me in the first place and you deserve what you got; I'm a conman and you should know better"

[@old_grey_cat]

He sooo loved that rescued snake story...

[@digitig]

Well, I seem to recall it worked for Fox News...

[@FlowerM735]

To hurt a narcissist who only cares for money is to clean him of his power that is money.

[@BuckFudweiser]

Because Trump was the one that made millions over the last 40 years in a political position, and contributed zero meaningful change. Right....

[@grmpEqweer]

131 companies? If he's not doing something crooked, why would he need so many shell companies?

[@Xeonort]

Don't ask Trump, he'll just plead the 5th 400+ times like mobsters do. You'll never get an answer.

[@fyremage3075]

Trump is almost as bad at lying to lawyers and judges as Billy Mitchell.

[@Turk3y89]

😂

[@Toonrick12]

At least Billy makes decent hot sauce.

[@memegazer]

@@Toonrick12 Knowing Billy he probably just put's his lable on somebodyeles hot sauce. Wouldn't surprise me

[@wheressteve]

Billy is just a sad joke but Trumplestilskin is a very dangerous and real threat.

[@OneVoiceOneTruth]

Dear lord, may they never join forces

[@0lyge0]

I have reason to believe Donald Trump didn't hire "only the best people" for his legal team.

[@zorimanar2247]

That's because he can't. Good lawyers won't touch him with a thousand foot pole.

[@0lyge0]

@@zorimanar2247 Yes, I know. I was being sarcastic.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

@@zorimanar2247 It's more the case that he: 1.- Refuses to pay for their services. 2.- Calls them hacks on twitter.

[@theaikidoka]

Fortunately, he made sure to definitely only hire the best people for all the political appointments and...oh, wait, never mind.

[@NinjaGidget]

The more I hear about these cases, the more convinced I am that Donald J Trump has no idea how money actually works.

[@poke548]

He really doesn't. He inherited all of his money and assets from his dad and he's been squandering them for decades. The man's produced more flops than a fish on land.

[@Epicname333]

He does that’s why he overvaluated his assets. He deserves a slap on the wrist for this instead of the corporate death penalty though. This is INSANE.

[@shroomyk]

It's scary that even though some people have finally realized who Trump is and has always been, there are still many out there who will see all of this and still not accept that Trump has always been a conman looking out for only his own interests.

[@faytbouleouve9811]

What's even worse is that he ran an entire country for 4 years. And not any country, but THE country.

[@eYeCeD7]

@@faytbouleouve9811the point you are missing is that describes every single politician. They all are conmen with an agenda looking out for their interests. The reason trump has as much support as he does is because regardless of the controversial things hes said he still seems to push for america first in a day in age where we really need that. We dont need jobs being pushed over seas or to be paying a huge price for energy when we could be energy sufficient. The current administration seems to cater to other countries (ukraine) more than trying to help with ours.

[@SSJfraz]

@@faytbouleouve9811 News for you, every leader of the US for the past several decades has been a complete sociopath. The last non-sociopathic president was probably JFK and the sociopaths murdered him in cold blood.

[@donhappel9566]

Yep. Right now they are over on Fox/etc shouting about activist judges and constitutional rights. I clicked on a Fox site just to see the response and it was stunning. There is literally nothing that he can do that will turn them against him.

[@quinnfarris]

​@faytbouleouve9811 ah American exceptionalism. what qbout the USA makes it *the* country exactly?

[@briancase6180]

What's amazing isn't the fact that this behavior is being exposed and penalties are being brought to bear. It is the fact that this behavior continued for DECADES without any consequences. There truly is a multi-entrance and -exit justice system.

[@chuckm.9744]

It’s worth noting that the statute relied upon by the NY Attorney General has been in place for 60+ years. And other NY attorneys general have used it to go after all sorts of businesses. A lot of the business practices were uncovered in Trump’s libel case against Tim O’Brian. It seems that enforcement of NY law in this context wasn’t much of a priority for prior attorneys general. Draw your own conclusions from that…

[@TinaButcher-r6m]

You need to look at why he ran for president, these things were being looked at before he even thought of running. It wasn't his ego that made him run, it was knowledge that his crimes were catching up with him and he thought they would have to be dropped if he became a political candidate. Its what he still actually believes

[@Carmine4911]

But only Trump was singled out by James. It was her campaign promise 'to get Trump'.

[@TinaButcher-r6m]

@@Carmine4911 and? vowing to go after a career criminal, what's your point?

[@carolbaker2773]

@@Carmine4911 And he is guilty. Isn't that what the court system is about? Punishing guilty people? Its also been used by as stated previously but its been used against other business but the difference is that this is Trump and he's going to make it a big deal. She also took down Democratic Andrew Cuomo so its a bit of a stretch to think she's acting out only for political reasons.

[@margaritoamargo6347]

This is one area where fraud is massively rampant. Businesses devaluing their commercial real estate worth to avoid paying a fair share of taxes and putting more burden on homeowners. Its ridiculous. We need more oversight.

[@nathanielbass771]

"tax value" is based on constants. it is nowhere near market value. A simple explanation for why. Let's say your property is valued at $1 million in tax value but suddenly, its market value drops to half of that or less. You would then be paying more in taxes than the property is worth.

[@exeggcutertimur6091]

its nice to see so few chat bots these days. downvote and report. the system wotks.

[@Jason-hg1pc]

International corporations are beyond complete national financial oversight but remain taxable, via their consumers, license fees and stock value(s), within the United States and its' affiliates. Don't buy from dictatorships that work their people to death, or learn to make your own tools.

[@kingrichardiii6280]

have to say it. Trump really looks shaken in those news clips, almost like some one slapped him in the face. this ruling must really hit him where it hurts.

[@joeyromacus8674]

I'd say that last part was correct. All, or pretty much all of his properties plus his name is owned by organizations in NY. He's gone.

[@christianrobloxserver7282]

Because it's at the point where he's committed so many blatantly obvious crimes that he can't just money his way out of it like all the other politicians and wealthy do

[@garrettwhite3922]

Right in the narcissism

[@erroneum]

If Trump loses the right to monetize his name, that will be hilarious in the most ironic way; I really hope that comes to pass.

[@FranzBieberkopf]

Haven't laughed so much since Fox had to cough up $ 800 million🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@veganwolf3268]

Don't hold your breath. The AG and the judge screwed up. The AG failed to produce any witness that claims he/she relied on Trump's magic numbers, so the only evidence is speculation, which is inadmissible and grounds for appelate reversal.

[@johnnyrasputin4819]

Donald Trump will have to go by the name "The Criminal Formerly Known as Donald Trump" 🤣

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

At this point, I doubt there is any scope to monetize his name anyway.

[@charlx8979]

@@alexanderSydneyOzoh how wrong you are Imagine if a left wing group bought his name, you think i wouldnt pay an enourmous premium for trump brand abortion pills? Trump brand estrogen? Trump brand dominatrix gear? Imagine the brand trolling you could do Have a trump brand version of every single thing the right hates and fears, id pay so much for things like that

[@divermike8943]

"This court can't consider an affidavit base on unclaimed and unsubstantiated dreams!" THAT was in the court record! ROTFLMAO!

[@larrymunn5279]

Yeah sometimes even they have enough eh.

[@razorburn645]

Its refreshing to see the law treat Trump like everyone else.

[@Jamietheroadrunner]

Finally. Too bad we no longer give traitors the ultimate punishment like we used to when this country had balls ⚡️⚡️🪑

[@jeffkadlec8264]

You know, that's the only negative here. Bc he is SO hated, Trump is getting actual justice for his crimes. But, most politicians & crooked business persons never get this proper treatment. It's disgraceful that only one person is getting this treatment, when others also deserve it.

[@Tom-nn9qm]

right? Imagine if ALL the crooked politicians got served justice like this, regardless which side of the political spectrum on which their voters fell....or, in other words....regardless of which side their voters fell on (get it? fell-on, sounds like felon....like those that primarily vote blue), but it is clear that those on the 'blue' (democrat side) always vote for politicians that never commit fraud - because clearly - no left-leaning politician has ever been persecuted like this.

[@anidnmeno]

FOR NOW

[@triggeredindividual9607]

@@jeffkadlec8264yeah kinda like Joe Biden

[@leoryff979]

"It's not false inflation! Plenty of billionaires would buy it for that price!" Billionaire logic in a nutshell.

[@whocares2277]

It's worth some random number because I can name some people who have more money than that number!

[@CellGames2006]

It is. You can create a fictonal company with a trillion shares and get someone to buy one for $1. Therefore you can legitimately claim the company is now worth $1 trillion. However, the auditors are going to come after you pretty quick...

[@alaly1027]

Theranos. Plus it's more like "billionaire" , because I have never heard of other legit billionaires being this bad at paying *everyone* , and begging poor ppl to give him money. Keep in mind that show of his basically pulled him out of the poorhouse & he was claiming he was a filthy rich person then.

[@iesika7387]

More damning, he didn't say "a billionaire would buy it," he specifically said "someone in saudi arabia" - he's all but naming his backer.

[@Hawatt11]

Couldn't happen to a more deserving crook.

[@OpenBiolabsGuy]

If corporations were actually people, they COULD be sentenced to death. However, the SCOTUS was factually and legally wrong. You can't punish a corporation under the law with all of the same penalties under the law that an individual person can be punished with, such as imprisonment and death. People who work for a corporation can be imprisoned or executed, but a corporation itself cannot. Since our legal system is *supposed* to treat people equally under the law, if an entity cannot be treated equally under the law, then it should not be considered a legal person. It can be considered an organization of people, or even a proto-person, but not a person. Not if it has to, by the nature of it existence, be treated differently under the law then a person can.

[@Faelocke]

Can the SCOTUS force a corporation to be dissolved?

[@WingedAsarath]

I work in a professional services firm doing audit, and am trained in US SOx. When i saw his argument live about this disclaimer I had to rry really hard not to burst out laughing in the middle of the office 😂

[@ChatteringApe]

Yep. I feel the same way every time he invokes the Presidential Records Act in the documents case like it's a shield that lets him do whatever he wants. It was put in place after Nixon to *prevent* presidents from claiming they owned their presidential documents.

[@Uufda651]

Edit: this is one of the absolute first things you learn in accounting classes. The Sarbanes Oxley Act, put into law after Enron, makes executives responsible for any sort of accounting fraud perpetuated by their company among other things, thus motivating them to get their statements audited by an independent accounting firm who will attest to their legitimacy and by having internal auditors on staff to constantly be combating potential fraud.

[@purplefanta7142]

Accounting =/= Property Appraisal

[@golfsucks555]

Yep.

[@declaredjeans7555]

He also shared nuclear secrets with an Australian business man, who shared it with 40 others, but somehow Republicans still support him. What's wrong with them?? Seriously!

[@yesyes3010]

At this point, this is a war between family-values and opportunity for all on the one side, and selfishness and big controlling government/corporations on the other side. Ofcause we support our commander in this war.

[@williamnovotny5776]

Fake news😂😂😂😂😂

[@ClockworkOuroborous]

You ever see anyone in a cult?

[@sandburgmartin7947]

​@@yesyes3010funny, most all big corporations are run by CONSERVATIVE CORPORATE EXECUTIVES.....Republicans ! He is one of THEM !!

[@sandburgmartin7947]

​@@williamnovotny5776wrong network, this ain't Faux or Noosemax.

[@Dmitriy.0]

Could this ruling be used against every single realtor in NYC? They often list (and charge for) square footage of commercial rentals that is literally double the actual size if you measure the area. Louis Rossmann has been talking about this for a decade.

[@jmr]

Even the defense is indefensible. That's a sub-optimal position to be in.

[@rickknight1810]

I enjoy these videos because even though this guy talks fast and I'm not a lawyer, everything he says is understandable. Good work.

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

Yeah I agree, Legal Eagle's great.

[@minioli01]

It’s funny how my grandchildren will get to learn about that time the USA elected an obvious conman as their president and many of them actually asked for a second serving.

[@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233]

The same way we learned about Nixon and Reagan ? -- I am also really mad at our current german chancelor, who took looking down on Trump away, because has also aided Banks in Tax Fraud and seems to get away with it.

[@yellow9053]

You pretend like this is our first time. It’s a National tradition

[@doubleubee7523]

The sad part is, you don't realize that all politicians are conmen. Trump just had a business empire con going along with his political con.

[@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233]

@@yellow9053 Talking about the US or Germany ? 😁

[@fluffycamo]

Biggest con artists are Obama and Biden

[@liviadix1433]

Someone said that Trump would not run because it would put the light on his financial dealings. Well, unfortunately it took at least 8 years. He did run. We got screwed, but finally , the wheels of Justice are catching up, or at least I hope so

[@rimfireMA]

I am convinced that is why he didn’t put his businesses in trust (or whatever the President is supposed to do.) Anyone coming in would cotton onto his game FAST and the older sons would overlook it, but weren’t really competent at the grift.

[@christophergreen6595]

I firmly believe the "he didn't want to win in 2016" narrative.

[@irishdc9523]

Rule no.1: Never step in the well, the Bailiff wi- Wait, that's no. 2 Rule no.1: Never piss off the judge

[@unfortunateimperial6019]

Lmao, thank you for the laugh.

[@Maveric]

I always look forward to your videos of Trump now. His legal suffering gives me sustenance and brightens my entire day.

[@JulioVonGhoulio]

Same. I love it.

[@janemiettinen5176]

And this one was a doozy! Just this alone could carry me over xmas, but Im sure we will get something to snack on well before :)

[@Kaiheart]

Same! You don't know how much I laughed when I found out. Made me laugh about as much when I found out McCarthy got the boot too!

[@darkithnamgedrf9495]

@@Kaiheartmaybe don’t laugh to long though, some idiots in the house are trying to get trump to be the new speaker.

[@LtSprinkulz]

@@darkithnamgedrf9495 his ego would never settle for speaker, he'll sooner try to form an American nazi party and stage a(nother) coup.

[@XXMatt0040XX]

It's always the money that eventually takes out mob bosses

[@KittyKatty999]

Or not paying their taxes

[@anonUK]

​@@KittyKatty999 That's money too.

[@Nixeu42]

It makes sense. Anyone with half-a-brain going to be extremely careful with incriminating evidence of murder, and setting up plausible deniability can be unfortunately easy to establish. Financial fuckery, by it's nature, somewhat easier to connect to the individual. No matter how convoluted and twisty the rabbit hole might be, at the end of the day, it will lead to your bank account or wallet, because you're going to spend that money.

[@XXMatt0040XX]

​@@Nixeu42 Yep, nailed it. We've known this forever in NY, the surprising thing is he's actually facing the music for it. Never thought I'd see the day

[@MugRuith]

This is how we should treat every billionaire. With extreme scrutiny and adequate revulsion. You don't get to be a billionaire without breaking some laws, greasing some wheels, and playing fast and loose with the rules. With great power comes great responsibility and since billionaires want zero responsibility it is up to the 99% to impose it on them.

[@nathanielbass771]

would it surprise you to learn then that the judge is actually the one who broke the law then? The case has already been appealed and won. The judge, on the other hand, impersonated an expert when he ignored expert testimony and assigned himself as representative of a party without permission. Tax value and market value are not the same thing... not even close.

[@JohnDoe-ti2np]

@@nathanielbass771 The appeal has not been won. The New York Appellate Division has paused enforcement pending appeal, but has not decided the appeal. That could take months.

[@Umezete]

"But there wouldnt' be any billionaires then!" cries the billionaires. Good.

[@Bustermachine]

@@JohnDoe-ti2np It's just a trumpist muddying the water.

[@Bolvar4dragon]

@@nathanielbass771 Who is telling you this?

[@bossthefluff]

“Nobody got hurt” is the same argument as speeding and saying that no accident happened. Entirely nonsensical. The law was broken. It’s that simple.

[@Hunterstiq]

“Objection, your honor” ‘Why?’ “Because this is seriously damning for my case” ‘Overruled’ “Good call”

[@lightyagami1752]

Liar Liar? 😂 I think the quote is "devastating".

[@thegreatstoneddragon9432]

"Objection, Your Majesty! We're losing!" "Overruled! But yes. Yes you are. Badly."

[@dionh70]

seriously damaging...

[@fergin4979]

“IM AN INCONSIDERATE PRICK!!!”

[@Jason-hg1pc]

@@fergin4979 (i'm just a homeless apostrophe)

[@tedmccauley9319]

The old standard was, go judge alone if you are innocent, go jury if you are guilty.

[@user-fy7ri8gu8l]

That requires a lawyer who doesn't completely miss calculate her strategy and "forget" to fill the proper paperwork.

[@LtColShingSides]

Trump is going to be the first person in human history to declare super bankruptcy

[@johnbiggscr]

Only the best bankruptcies. Some people have said it was the greatest ever bankruptcy.. * accordion hands * 😂

[@Alan_Duval]

Bigly!

[@an_fiach]

​​​@@johnbiggscr**accordion hands** is amazing and exactly how we should all get across a trump impression in text. Just incredible

[@ChrisKellyPrime]

It's gonna be YUUUUUGE

[@LtColShingSides]

@@johnbiggscr accordion hands had me rolling lol

[@OriginalJetForMe]

I think that the lack of conviction under the emoluments clause is a real failing of our system, and undermines one of the few anticorruption laws we have.

[@GoTMLGo1967]

All these properties worth so much, yet pays so only $750 in 2017…no wonder he’s being investigated. 😂

[@MrHGravity]

I can't imagine why anyone would ever want to get into a business relationship with the man or ever take him on as a client. The list of people he has defrauded and outright refused to pay is a mile long.

[@Pwnopolis]

There's good reasons why no A or S tier lawyer would never work with this fool.

[@catherinesanchez1185]

A lot of them are probably shady too , then get screwed by someone who is better at it .

[@TheSateef]

i love trumps defense that he's so corrupt he would accept massive overpayment for his properties in return for political favors from Saudi Arabia (or presumably anyone).

[@Nope148]

I'm still wondering if that $2B has anything to do with the documents that he kept and talked about to random club members