Trumpet vs Cornet - discussion and demonstration

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Trent Hamilton

Trent Hamilton

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@nattance1
@nattance1 8 жыл бұрын
One of the clearest (and most succinct) explanations of the differences I've ever seen -- thanks. I would really like to see you do a similar one contrasting baritone horns and euphoniums. Here in the US, school bands call euphoniums "baritones" and don't use actual baritones at all!
@gerhardhofer8058
@gerhardhofer8058 8 жыл бұрын
It's a fairly simple difference. Euphonium has conical piping, while baritone has cylindrical. Sound-wise, baritone is closer to trombone, while euphonium can be thought of as a mini tuba.
@Deimos0VI
@Deimos0VI 6 жыл бұрын
My school calls it the euphonium
@sceu25
@sceu25 3 жыл бұрын
euphoniums also will usually have 4 valves while baritones mostly have 3 but there are 3 valve euphs and 4 valve baris
@bobcat24
@bobcat24 3 жыл бұрын
@@sceu25 It really just depends the model…
@sceu25
@sceu25 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobcat24 Yea but my point still stands.
@serjoprot
@serjoprot 8 жыл бұрын
Dues the cornet sound a bit softer? Or is that just my impression?
@brassflyer4284
@brassflyer4284 8 жыл бұрын
Mariangiongiangela's Tech Tips It has a darker tone
@Sephiewoth
@Sephiewoth 8 жыл бұрын
That's how I learned the difference between cornet and trumpet when I was first starting out. Corner is less of a slap in a face, more gentle.
@normancanter1
@normancanter1 8 жыл бұрын
The cornet characteristically had and has a softer tone. The first great cornets Courtois, French Bessons 1865 - 1900 had a softer tone that was compatible with vocal arias of operettas or operas. With the rise of the trumpet, after 1900-1930, cornet sounds were made to resemble that of the trumpet and in appearance too in some cases as with the Conn Constellation cornets.
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 8 жыл бұрын
Trumpets tend to sound "brighter" while cornets sound "darker".
@Darm0k
@Darm0k 7 жыл бұрын
Nikola Tesla cornets were considered solo instruments much more than trumpets in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. the virtuosic solo peices like Napoli and carnival of Venice were all written for cornet. it was probably jazz players who made trumpets into more soloistic instruments, although many early jazz players did play cornets. even Louis Armstrong early on his career.
@FishingForLife28
@FishingForLife28 5 жыл бұрын
I'm back at this video once again. Even though I play both trumpet and cornet, the cornet has a special place in my heart and it annoys me when people call it a trumpet. And I am seriously tired of explaining the difference, so much so that when people ask me what instrument I play, I usually just say that I play the trumpet. I have now made it my mission to make the cornet a known instrument to the common folk. I have started by creating a local band only consisting of cornets. And I urge you, my fellow cornet players to do the same. Let us never have to explain the difference between a cornet and a trumpet ever again!
@bettinajoseph3758
@bettinajoseph3758 Жыл бұрын
Ha ... Once I told a choir colleague that I play trombone (Zugposaune - I'm Austrian), she forgot during the following conversation and called it a "slide trumpet" (Zugtrompete)🤷
@lucasirujo8374
@lucasirujo8374 Жыл бұрын
Same Bro
@cubcadet122
@cubcadet122 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. Although I play a trumpet, I think post-horns like coronets indeed deserve there own classification.
@irober02
@irober02 6 жыл бұрын
Nice playing. It seems both cornet and trumpet require similar amount of eye-brow agility. ;-)
@cherryannknott6713
@cherryannknott6713 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much - that was MOST informative! I found the cornet more mellow - a great-niece is learning the cornet, I shall now be less ignorant about it! She is actually playing rather well; aged 11, she makes a very pleasing sound; I hope she will continue with it
@SiteReader
@SiteReader 6 жыл бұрын
When I was in elementary school band in the 1950s U.S.A., all the parts were for Bb cornet. The band teacher explained to us that the cornet used to be the standard band instrument, but we could play it on trumpet as well. I recently made a friend who is a middle school band teacher. When I looked at his band books, they are still marked for cornet. I have a 1955 Conn Victor trumpet, that passed through my younger brother and back to me. I took up the instrument again at age 72. After practicing on the Conn Victor for the first few months, I decided I might like the mellower sound of a cornet. I bought a cheap one online (CR400) from Thomann Music in Germany. Glad I did. I like the sound better, and it's easier to hold up, except for the hand grip, which I find a little tight.
@SeekerLancer
@SeekerLancer 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much all of my sheet music in high school in the early 2000's was for Bb cornet too.
@jeltewijnsma9529
@jeltewijnsma9529 Жыл бұрын
If u play In a brittish brassband it’s all Bb cornets and one Eb cornet
@mycobacteriem2540
@mycobacteriem2540 7 ай бұрын
i graduated hs in 2013 and for quite a few songs during my middle and highschool years the trumpet section was given cornet marked sheet music
@jackspence1126
@jackspence1126 4 жыл бұрын
The cornet, which has a conical bore (tubing gradually gets larger in diameter), while the trumpet has a cylindrical shape (same diameter until it reaches the bell portion). This changes the overtone series, which is more mellow in the cornet. It also makes the cornet a little easier to play with a little less resistance and easier to slur and play legato. The famous concert bands of the Sousa era used mainly cornets, as did the soloists such as the great Herbert L. Clark.
@ryangriffiths7793
@ryangriffiths7793 8 жыл бұрын
I have been watching this channel for about two weeks now and I have to say I enjoy it very much. I am only 16 years old but I play about 5 instruments and I plan to either teach music, or make playing my career. With my main instrument being a tenor sax, my knowledge of instruments only lies with the realm of saxophones and some clarinet things, as I play bass clarinet and Bb. But this channel has really helped me to discover the amazing side of brass and how everything works from a Tuba or a Bass Trombone to a piccolo trumpet. So for that, thanks, Mr. Hamilton.
@alfredolsson2942
@alfredolsson2942 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone else rember the tune from "Spider-Man 2" video game, when you delivered pizza?
@dubzmusic4255
@dubzmusic4255 7 жыл бұрын
Alfred Olsson yup lmao
@Sebaoboe
@Sebaoboe 7 жыл бұрын
Alfred Olsson was looking this comment
@PKD145
@PKD145 6 жыл бұрын
PIZZA TIME
@angelbello2308
@angelbello2308 6 жыл бұрын
PIZZA TIME!
@MrIKnow-qk8cr
@MrIKnow-qk8cr 6 жыл бұрын
Funiculi funicali
@spum789
@spum789 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of Trent's videos. This by far is the best showing of his "Trumpet" skills.
@Cantbuyathrill
@Cantbuyathrill 9 жыл бұрын
This back-to-back demo is the most illustrative, so far, I've seen. Including the flugelhorn (and the much-to-maligned, undeservedly so, piccolo trumpet) would be an even more comprehensive exposition.
@AlexStalin-ph2do
@AlexStalin-ph2do 6 жыл бұрын
Pizza time
@joemills346
@joemills346 4 жыл бұрын
Pizza time
@Kinopanorama1
@Kinopanorama1 8 жыл бұрын
Do each of these instruments sound with a Kiwi eccent?
@MrQwerty15ification
@MrQwerty15ification 6 жыл бұрын
Cornets do not only use triggers. I sell instruments and that is actually the first cornet i've seen with triggers. Also, trumpets can come with triggers
@zvonkozunic
@zvonkozunic 8 жыл бұрын
they sound totally different. The Cornet is just so much more sultry.
@shawnready6567
@shawnready6567 6 жыл бұрын
Its also a $3,000 cornet vs a $280 trumpet
@adam3d851
@adam3d851 6 жыл бұрын
Trumpet is more classy and assertive. Cornet is small and shy
@halfchocolatecow3501
@halfchocolatecow3501 5 жыл бұрын
@Agnostic Monk Then you should stick to playing the drums
@mason11198
@mason11198 4 жыл бұрын
@Werewolf O. London, Esq. Same. The difference is more or less negligible.
@ttyc1999
@ttyc1999 4 жыл бұрын
Like a horn
@glenhenning9261
@glenhenning9261 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! Played cornet in H.S., wish I still had it, didn't fully realize then what a beautiful sound it had...
@stephen.jenkins
@stephen.jenkins 5 жыл бұрын
I hear cornet played in some older jazz recordings. This is a good comparison. Thanks. My only suggestion would be to put the playing of the more mellow instrument before the brighter one, i.e., cornet before trumpet,. to make them easier to compare.
@Tmanaz480
@Tmanaz480 6 жыл бұрын
The different tone is magnified when you get a section of them playing together, as in a British style brass band or a proper concert band. (Most American school concert bands nowadays have trumpets where the cornets should be, since most students and amateurs don't usually own a cornet)
@tungsten8290
@tungsten8290 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget having a proper British cornet mouthpiece !
@Harmonic14
@Harmonic14 2 жыл бұрын
That's odd - when I was in school, they started everyone on cornet, and trumpets were pretty uncommon.
@mycobacteriem2540
@mycobacteriem2540 7 ай бұрын
i think a lot of the us not using cornets, especially for school bands, has to do with budgets and ease of access. getting a proper even student cornet is probably out of the budget for most schools. i know my hs band, combined with the orchestra and choir, had the budget of a shoe string and a ham sandwhich. our only loaner trumpet looked like it could hold the worlds next pandemic within it. most kids coming into band were also started in trumpet anyway, at least when i was ins chool in the early 2000s. sad though, i really like the cornet's sound and would have switched tbh
@Trolologram
@Trolologram 8 жыл бұрын
The manual/trigger tuning slide is NOT a key difference between the two. There are cornets with manual tuning slides and Trumpets with triggered tuning slides. I apologize if i come off as an ass, but I couldn't let this go. Very informational outside of that though.
@lennybuttz2162
@lennybuttz2162 8 жыл бұрын
He didn't say trumpets don't have trigger slides, he said he never saw one with a trigger slide.
@Microblitz
@Microblitz 8 жыл бұрын
I've posted an image of three, so now he has.
@glaslackjxe3447
@glaslackjxe3447 6 жыл бұрын
why don't trunpets typically have triggers? It seems a much more convenient means to an end in my opinion than manual slides
@bradyh1782
@bradyh1782 6 жыл бұрын
i'm guessing because it was how the trumpet was originally made and they didn't really bother to change it much, however some people/companies decided to take matters into their own hands.
@datGuy0309
@datGuy0309 6 жыл бұрын
The trumpet i just ordered has a trigger on the first valve slide, but a ring on the 3rd.
@harrelsontrumpets
@harrelsontrumpets 9 жыл бұрын
Technically, the cornet and trumpet are almost identical. Both are partially conical and cylindrical. There is a common misconception that the trumpet is cylindrical and the cornet is conical, but this is not true on modern 20th and 21st century instruments. The comparison of the bell flares is also inaccurate as the cornet bell is shorter, which explains why it appears to start tapering quickly at the base of the bell. The tapers on most cornets begin smaller than trumpet and end smaller than the trumpet, but flare faster. This fact combined with a deeper mouthpiece cup and wider backbore give the cornet a softer attack and tone than the trumpet. Nice video and discussion :)
@ironmandave3000
@ironmandave3000 6 жыл бұрын
Are trumpet mouthpiece and a cornet mouthpiece interchangeable?
@ianlee9647
@ianlee9647 6 жыл бұрын
@@ironmandave3000 They are not compatible. The mouthpiece for the cornet is shorter and narrower than the trumpet mouthpiece. The difference in size is comparable to the difference in size going from trumpet to trombone
@ironmandave3000
@ironmandave3000 6 жыл бұрын
@@ianlee9647 thank you I'm aware of that. I have played both. I was looking for someone else to help illustrate my point that trumpets and cornets are not the same. Doc Severinsen tells a great story how about trying to play cornet in a lead trumpet position. It doesn't work!
@ajw9975
@ajw9975 5 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest contributor to the difference in sound (among other things) is the mouthpiece. I play a cornet. I can't say for certain what the "average" trumpet vs. cornet mouthpiece cup is for either instrument. But I know the typical "stock" cornet mouthpiece that comes with the cornet is deeper than the stock mouthpiece you get with your trumpet. I find cornet mouthpieces can range from very deep/funnel (almost french horn-like) to basically a trumpet-type cup on a cornet shank (Bach). Not so sure if the same in reverse is the case for trumpet mouthpieces. I alternate between a Denis Wick 4B and a Bach 3D, depending on the music. When I use the Bach 3D, I'm basically indistinguishable from the trumpets in my section.
@Johnh1953
@Johnh1953 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice demonstration of tonal differences and mechanical differences. Thanks so much.
@GaryBT
@GaryBT 8 жыл бұрын
I have had a trumpet with a first valve trigger instead of a saddle hook and I preferred it. I also currently own a cornet that does not have the shepherd's crook and has a third valve ring instead of a trigger. With the aesthetics of the trumpet and cornet there are no absolutes.
@perryparsons9960
@perryparsons9960 8 жыл бұрын
Very good video, especially the playing comparisons. This is a great primer for the basic differences, and is by and large accurate. However, there have been so many variations on the common designs, that the lines do blur. For example, perhaps the most glaring variation is the American standard trumpet, the Bach Strad. It is in fact, a long cornet with a trumpet mouthpiece receiver, as the tubing graduates throughout the instrument. Many people, myself included, have verified this with the use of calipers. Also to be noted is the Besson 10-10 trumpet, which has triggers on both the 1st and 3rd slides, perhaps as an effort to duplicate the playing mechanics of the Besson Sov, truly a hallmark cornet. At the other end of the spectrum are the American cornets, void of any shepherd crook, but still very much cornets. While perhaps a bit brighter than their British cousins, they still are conical instruments with a very specific cornet tonal quality. Once again, this video should be the point from which all others take off as far as variations between trumpet and cornet.
@tablloyd5
@tablloyd5 7 жыл бұрын
Very good comparisons, however something should be noted: the cornet demonstrated (an excellent one btw) is a shepherds crook type. There is a natural mellowness in its sound compared to a cornet without the crook. Shepherd crooks are very popular with the Brits, while straight cornets are more popular in America I believe. The shepherds crook stands between the trumpet and the flugelhorn for that mellow sound, but the flugelhorn is larger, and bulkier say to use in the marching band. Those who want to play trumpet and flugelhorn, but cannot afford both will settle on the shepherd crook to satisfy both sounds more economically. A really fair comparison should be made with a straight cornet vs trumpet and the difference would be heard. The straight cornet is very handy because of its shorter size in marching, yet maintains that brilliant sound. The Salvation Army bands of Britain use them effectively, for example.
@troutstudio
@troutstudio 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Trent. My son (plays trumpet) has been asked to join a Police Band, playing cornet. I found this very helpful. Kiwi's are the Southern Hemisphere musical race!
@lennybuttz2162
@lennybuttz2162 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was very informative. Would you say the coronet is more elegant and subtle than a trumpet?
@graceheath8564
@graceheath8564 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen many trumpets with triggers for the tuning slides!!! I used to completely refuse to play anything other than a corner but I’m now completely in love with my trumpet. Both have such beautiful sounds.
@sci8
@sci8 8 жыл бұрын
Probably said a billion times, but many trumpets do have triggers.
@mikeprevost8650
@mikeprevost8650 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. My Getzen Eterna had a third valve trigger.
@kirstierussell7928
@kirstierussell7928 5 жыл бұрын
Also many corners have a thumb and ring for the slides
@kirstierussell7928
@kirstierussell7928 5 жыл бұрын
Cornets**
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 8 жыл бұрын
when I was in a band I played trumpet and I think my friend was the only guy with a cornet, he had this t-shirt about how cornets were better than trumpets. Definitely a softer sound, in a proper brass band are they treated as interchangeable or are they used case by case?
@tylerpenberthy8523
@tylerpenberthy8523 6 жыл бұрын
No. Sometimes a piece will call for cornets and trumpets have their own parts. Currently, my band is playing/rehearsing a Leonard Bernstein piece that has three cornet parts and two trumpet parts. But for those of us that dont have cornets, we just use our trumpets
@NiecieB65
@NiecieB65 9 жыл бұрын
I would have to play the cornet. My hands are small. This is a great comparison. The trumpet has a stronger sound. But, the cornet sounds good too. You are a very talented musician. Thanks for the video. You've helped me make an informed decision.
@Markus_Breuss
@Markus_Breuss 9 жыл бұрын
+Denise Borum the cornet is very lovely!
@Tmanaz480
@Tmanaz480 6 жыл бұрын
Cornet is also easier for kids to hold properly, as it's shorter overall and the valves are closer to the player.
@stansmith4054
@stansmith4054 6 жыл бұрын
Are you a cornet player? I ran into some of your posts from a couple of older random videos about cornets. Strange indeed or maybe it really is a small world.
@kennatiousc
@kennatiousc 8 жыл бұрын
the cornet seems to sound less bright
@AndyTrampke
@AndyTrampke 8 жыл бұрын
spiralacrobat I agree. The trumpet sounds much much more crisp.
@kennatiousc
@kennatiousc 8 жыл бұрын
thx
@gerhardhofer8058
@gerhardhofer8058 8 жыл бұрын
The cornet does have a darker sound. The conical lead pipe provides a darker tone that that of the cylindrical. (Same difference between baritone and euphonium)
@untoldtruths9316
@untoldtruths9316 5 жыл бұрын
I have been a cornet player for 6 years and I'm literally sick to death of people saying "you're a trumpet player aren't you"? The cornet is used in brass bands whereas the trumpet is used in orchestras. I have the same model of cornet as you have here and it is absaloutely flawless, beautiful sound.
@peterfeltham5612
@peterfeltham5612 8 жыл бұрын
Well demonstrated Trent,very informative.
@anthonygonzalez6422
@anthonygonzalez6422 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Hickman did a blind (behind a curtain) study between the Trumpet and Cornet. The determination was made that the difference in sound (bright or dark) between the two instruments had more to do with the mouthpiece configuration than the instruments themselves. A cornet with a shallow mouthpiece, sounded characteristically like a trumpet and a trumpet with a deep v cup sounded characteristically Iike a cornet.
@LarryShone
@LarryShone 7 жыл бұрын
from this very well presented video I can tell that the cornet is warmer, the trumpet more harsh,brighter. It also seems that cornet is harder to play.
@shaunminahan9921
@shaunminahan9921 8 жыл бұрын
Bravo. Extremely informative demo. Onya Trent!
@jambodjembe
@jambodjembe 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks.... I'm just sorting out my music departments brass and not being a brass player this really helped.
@windstorm1000
@windstorm1000 9 жыл бұрын
Loved the demo! Thanks--after watching, then, it seems to me that the cornet is mellower 'creamier' and the trumpet brassier, more brilliant. Am I right here? I like Berlioz and that French composer consistently employees 2 trumpets and 2 cornets in many of his compositions--is this to get the qualities mentioned above combined??
@milojohnson3057
@milojohnson3057 7 жыл бұрын
high brass player here, you are spot on! a conical tubing generally makes an instrument more mellow in sound. flugels have the most conical tubing out of cornets (1/3), trumpets (0/0, and flugels (2/3)
@thomasbardsley9888
@thomasbardsley9888 9 жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO A MARCHING FRENCH HORN VS. MELLOPHONE!!!
@wt4629
@wt4629 9 жыл бұрын
Marching French horn barely exists
@thomasbardsley9888
@thomasbardsley9888 9 жыл бұрын
+The West Will Rise Again! you are correct about that, but at my school, there are still many of them and none of us know the differences between them. There are still quite a few out there since the mello is a newer instrument. I for one would like to see him do a video on the differences between the two.
@wt4629
@wt4629 9 жыл бұрын
Nova Extreme Are you talking about a dedicated French Horn for marching? Does it have a forward or backwards facing bell?
@thomasbardsley9888
@thomasbardsley9888 9 жыл бұрын
+The West Will Rise Again! front facing
@wt4629
@wt4629 9 жыл бұрын
Nova Extreme They're probably functionally the same thing
@BanjoPicker
@BanjoPicker 6 жыл бұрын
SO is the Coronet harder to play than Trumpet? Would the same lessons jive for both instruments?? I am trying to start out new and self teach. find more on Trumpet but really like the mellow Jazz sound of the Coronet.
@mikesosa1146
@mikesosa1146 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Love your explanations. Appreciate it. Any chance you can discuss the mouthpiece differences? Thanks
@valerioperri7237
@valerioperri7237 8 жыл бұрын
Hi...someone can tell me where i can download the air varie 'Napoli' pdf? Thanks
@aidanchristensen1581
@aidanchristensen1581 4 жыл бұрын
The trumpets lead pipe is also conical. And my freind plays a trumpet with triggers. I think alot of the difference is less to do with the ammount of conical tubing, and more so the rate of expansion. Nowadays, modern trumpets aren't actually very different from cornets except for mouthpiece type and shape.
@brothergoodfoot
@brothergoodfoot 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you, so enlightening! Despite the close similarity, I can really hear the hint of the old-timey jazz tone in the cornet. I think it's really a shame that the cornet gets so overlooked by jazz players and rock/pop horn section guys now.
@spacejazz6272
@spacejazz6272 9 жыл бұрын
its definitely a softer, mellower sound
@trumpetman514
@trumpetman514 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. You are a fine musician. Nice double and triple tonguing.
@antiussentiment
@antiussentiment 7 жыл бұрын
Man!! That was great. I had no idea a cornet was so much more mellow than a trumpet.. Makes sense when you look at how they are made.
@gs3173
@gs3173 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this. BRILLIANT
@datapro007
@datapro007 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. I suspect the sound difference is more pronounced than the video indicates. The sampling rate on KZbin video is a limiting factor. Thanks for posting!
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) The sound quality is limited also by the microphone inside my phone...
@dwevors
@dwevors 8 жыл бұрын
I have a Bach Strad made in the early 70's that has a first valve trigger. All my my friends Strads back them had saddles, but mine has a trigger. Another friend of mine from the 70's had a king silver flair with a first valve trigger also. FYI. Good video!
@gracefoster4861
@gracefoster4861 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I think of the coronet sound as mellower. Both sounds are beautiful, and I love knowing about their origins.
@js.t1nn
@js.t1nn 6 жыл бұрын
The cornet have a rounder sound while the trumpet have a sharper sound . The trumpet also needs more air and the mouthpiece is slightly bigger while the cornet do not need as much air and has a smaller mouthpiec
@greenflame8398
@greenflame8398 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic breakdown of each horn! Your videos are very interesting and informative.
@icepick1939
@icepick1939 8 жыл бұрын
After listening to you the cornet doesn't sound as clean as the trumpet, but for some reason I like the cornet better. Thanks I am going to get a cornet.
@mrdonut1533
@mrdonut1533 7 жыл бұрын
The trumpet definitely has a brighter sound. But the cornet sounds better for soft playing music in my opinion
@valentinbohm757
@valentinbohm757 5 жыл бұрын
There are trumpets with mechanical Tuning slides as well!
@derik2nicolai584
@derik2nicolai584 10 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, no big difference in sound. Your lips technique is so good!
@Bone_Daddy13
@Bone_Daddy13 2 жыл бұрын
I suddenly felt like I needed to deliver pizzas when the demo started
@OP2073
@OP2073 2 жыл бұрын
Valeu!
@s1914
@s1914 6 жыл бұрын
What would be the best mouthpiece to make the cornet sound a bit sharper, like a trumpet?
@just-a-silly-goofy-guy
@just-a-silly-goofy-guy 6 жыл бұрын
My trumpet teacher (great guy) has his trumpet with added triggers like the cornet where you pull in instead of push out because his fingers were hurting...
@johnbruner5820
@johnbruner5820 6 жыл бұрын
I have a verry weird horn that has charactorectistics of both trumpets and coronets can i get your professional opinion on identifying it?
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 6 жыл бұрын
Sure - contact me on Facebook or email.
@harryoakley
@harryoakley 4 жыл бұрын
Just one question. Which is easier to play - or, in other words, which wears out the embouchure the least?
@timothytikker1147
@timothytikker1147 5 жыл бұрын
What mouthpiece are you using with that cornet? My understanding is that true cornet tone is only possible with a proper V-cup mouthpiece.
@chrischampagne9469
@chrischampagne9469 4 жыл бұрын
Basically the same difference as a Euphonium and a Baritone (also known as a tenor horn). Euphonium has a more conical bore and a baritone is more cylindrical.
@robertwagner7867
@robertwagner7867 Жыл бұрын
Which of the two are more in demand if you're wanting to preform?
@RosssRoyce
@RosssRoyce 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for nice comparison vid! My cornet has the fingering reversed to that of a trumpet in a mirror image.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 8 жыл бұрын
What? Really? Can you please send me some photos? trenthamiltonnz@gmail.com
@keithwhite4458
@keithwhite4458 7 жыл бұрын
I think you have a flugel
@RetiredBrass
@RetiredBrass 4 жыл бұрын
@@keithwhite4458 That should be the same fingering as a regular trumpet as well.
@RetiredBrass
@RetiredBrass 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrentHamilton I'm curious to know if this ever got a follow up? There are some rare early instruments that have so called "Catholic fingering", i.e. first and second valve reversed, but all three reversed is unheard of. Either way, the mentioned instrument, if true, is a rarity and deserves to be shared with the public.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetiredBrass No, never had a reply that I can recall.
@geronimomadmartin3499
@geronimomadmartin3499 Жыл бұрын
Which is easier to control and hold a note on? My littlest daughter is asking me to learn to play, but she's very tiny about 35 pounds and I am not sure if she can produce enough air to make a go of it.
@playonkorg
@playonkorg 8 жыл бұрын
Use them both , when i'm playing Cool and the Gang I need staccato in high sharp sound but when it comes to RealBook jazz I prefer the Cornet ...I can play more with the tones
@jessstuart7495
@jessstuart7495 Жыл бұрын
Is it easier to play fast on the trumpet compared with the cornet?
@MarkWick
@MarkWick 7 жыл бұрын
In high school I played a Conn Connstellation which had a trigger on the first valve tuning slide, and the common ring, which was adjustable, on the third valve tuning slide.
@alexwatson7068
@alexwatson7068 4 жыл бұрын
Would it give a greater difference in tone if you used a corner mouthpiece as well?
@colinball9032
@colinball9032 7 жыл бұрын
some trumpets have triggers eg Conn Connstellation and many cornets don't, also some cornets eg Conn Victor are not conical all the way thru; and long cornets don,t have a shepherds crook.
@DrowseeGameplay
@DrowseeGameplay 9 жыл бұрын
Any tips on the cornet? I have both, and I seem to have a MUCH better sound on the trumpet. Is there a difference in tone production between the two that I am missing?
@wt4629
@wt4629 9 жыл бұрын
A trumpet's long lead pipe allows high volume high notes fly out of the instruments with ease vs. the cornet's curved lead pipe giving it a subdued tone. You could also have your embouchure messed up, the mouthpieces are different sizes.
@DrowseeGameplay
@DrowseeGameplay 9 жыл бұрын
The West Will Rise Again! Never thought of the mouth pieces or anything like what you said, thanks!
@perryparsons9960
@perryparsons9960 8 жыл бұрын
+The West Will Rise Again! Sorry, cannot agree with this. I play both trumpet and cornet as well as flugel, the trick is finding the correct mouthpiece that allows the airflow and resistance to be consistent between the three.
@wt4629
@wt4629 8 жыл бұрын
Perry Parsons I only play trumpet out of those three, but I was speculating on what the problem might be. Admittedly, I am an amateur.
@alexwatson7068
@alexwatson7068 4 жыл бұрын
Would it give a greater difference in tone if you used a cornet mouthpiece as well?
@remygilboe1388
@remygilboe1388 10 жыл бұрын
BookWorm9229 theyre almost exactly the same. The cornet has a darker sound but not all cornets have a "shepards crook" and not all cornets use triggers. Also, some trumpets use triggers as well. A trumpet is used more in jazz and commercial use. However, a cornet is used often in orchestral pieces. You dont have to learn to play one or the other. If you can play one, you can easily play the other.
@smsmith714
@smsmith714 9 жыл бұрын
Is there a specific name for the black rubber rings you have on your first and third valve slides?
@harrelsontrumpets
@harrelsontrumpets 9 жыл бұрын
+Sean Smith These are nitrile o-rings
@SWMP1523
@SWMP1523 8 жыл бұрын
My trumpet's first valve tuning slide has a mechanical trigger and I have an old 1920s bronze Conn cornet that doesn't have either a finger ring or a mechanical trigger on its first and third tuning slides
@girlfrancia2214
@girlfrancia2214 5 жыл бұрын
what type of cornet mouthpiece are you using please
@MichaelSidneyTimpson
@MichaelSidneyTimpson 6 жыл бұрын
So if Cornet and Flugelhorn are both conical, what makes them different specifically?
@tomwolk82
@tomwolk82 6 жыл бұрын
The trumpet in the video has a very conical lead pipe and that is desired by soloists because this makes the tone very sharp when played loudly
@HeiressEllie
@HeiressEllie Жыл бұрын
when you play the fast passage on trumpet your eyes are steady but when you do it on the coronet it looks like youre doing some serious math in your head.
@tedtedsen269
@tedtedsen269 8 жыл бұрын
how is the response and resistance VS trumpet and tuning issues for me the cornet looks like a mini flugelhorn i play the Bb trumpet
@dalekoenig3648
@dalekoenig3648 5 жыл бұрын
Could you contrast in the same way the piston valve and rotary valve trumpet?
@FifthContinentMusic
@FifthContinentMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting to note the comments re the comparisons. I usually add a Cornet to a composition for brass and percussion, particularly when I include Trumpets in C (as opposed to B-flat) in the orchestration. J Steven Lasher.
@vercality6170
@vercality6170 9 жыл бұрын
I have been playing the cornet, and mine has manual slides, not triggers. It still has the crook, but the cornet, as I've heard from many experts on the topic, is better for beginners to use for a few years. It takes more air, so it makes it easier to play the trumpet when the time comes to switch.
@MrInitialMan
@MrInitialMan 8 жыл бұрын
I have an old cornet in C/B/Bb/A--it has two tuning slides and 2 shanks.
@patrickalexander5983
@patrickalexander5983 6 жыл бұрын
My cornet has one manual tuning slide and it is a ring?
@davidofcoburg9279
@davidofcoburg9279 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've always wondered what the differences were. I am a real cornet fancier. Downunda - Melbourne Australia
@Spedmuel
@Spedmuel 5 жыл бұрын
Are the fingerings the same
@bennyvr28
@bennyvr28 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you. If I'm singing songs like Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra, which should I have as an accompaniment? Cornet or Trumpet?
@mlflury5818
@mlflury5818 9 жыл бұрын
i have a cornet and im in band so into finding out how to play high low and middle sounds??? plus I have a cornet from Germany made by huttl in regd western Germany line 800 my dad is 76 and he had it second hand from a old man so I question how old it is ....
@黑衣组织临时工
@黑衣组织临时工 9 жыл бұрын
It seems that you should collect it instead of playing it ...
@iancoyle4610
@iancoyle4610 8 жыл бұрын
Which do you prefer, trumpet or cornet?
@MultiMick666
@MultiMick666 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for uploading. What I want to know is, can I play these instruments left handed?
@dakz
@dakz 6 жыл бұрын
Well, there are at least Bach trumpets with triggers. You still can order that from them and I've seen several with trigger on the first valve. I've never seen one with a third valve trigger rather than ring, but it is a build to order option still so it probably exists.
@TheGholiday
@TheGholiday 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an extremely informative video. I never realised the tonal differences in the cornet before and can understand why it's favoured for certain music pieces over the trumpet and vice versa. I'd be tempted to get myself a cornet just so I can be an all rounder as I also play trombone although the trumpet is my instrument of choice.
@michaelprozonic
@michaelprozonic 5 жыл бұрын
Triggers are available as an option on Bach trumpets
@barbarapissane
@barbarapissane 9 жыл бұрын
is that possible to play Haendel's "the trumpet shall sound" with a cornet?
@JMcdon1627
@JMcdon1627 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a demonstration of the differences of a piston trumpet and a rotary trumpet. Thank you.
@ethanwiles4632
@ethanwiles4632 9 жыл бұрын
Would it be a big difference if i were to play a euphonium and swap over to a cornet? I played euphonium my entire band career and I would love to try another instrument for a change. Would a cornet be a good change or should i pick something els? If I must pick something els, could you please give me some examples?
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 9 жыл бұрын
+Ethan Wiles Hi Ethan, it is hard to go between eupho and cornet, but if you keep your skill up in both then you should be fine. I'm forever swapping between instruments, but the risk is that if you stop playing one, you'll loose your conditioning on that instrument.
@gerhardhofer8058
@gerhardhofer8058 8 жыл бұрын
If you want to pick something else, tuba would probably be the easiest switch from a euphonium.
@tchackett
@tchackett 9 жыл бұрын
I Just want to say awesome, very nice. I have recently started playing again (cornet) and I have a long way to go to get back in playing shape and style!
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