Hearthstone: The League of Explorers Review - Part 3 - Paladin, Mage, Hunter, Druid

[@TrumpSC]

With this part all cards have been reviewed so here is a bit of text: Sorry about the late videos! I read several comments about people demanding the review earlier but you have to understand that Trump was at BlizzCon when the new cards were revealed - it took several days until he came back and reviewed the cards. You can rest assured that it is always our top priority to get this kind of content out asap but we also try to maintain a certain level of quality so editing adds more delay to the actual release. That said though: this review was actually rushed out - I would have liked to add more stuff in the editing process but scumbag Blizzard releasing the expansion so soon kinda forced me to get them uploaded as quickly as possible. ~ Jens

[@pierage6547]

+Trump ayy lmao

[@Joey_1999]

We love you jens. Dont work too hard!!!

[@ProJumz]

+Trump Don't worry Jens. You did an amazing job :)

[@josephevensen8146]

+Trump f the haters

[@Kellogs_Gaming]

+Trump Thanks for letting us know, but u dont have to justify yourself. I really appreciate ur editing skills and the quality content of this channel. Thanks for everything Jens!

[@ruit3425]

There's only 6 murlocks on Anyfin can Happen because the 7th is taking the picture, obviously.

[@DannyBurns____]

I would love to have 2 people reviewing the cards at once, as this different opinion dynamic would really make it interesting and bring the best of the cards

[@Kazuwhospins]

+joe man amaz did that btw

[@DannyBurns____]

*out of the cards

[@2MeatyOwlLegs]

+joe man would take ages though but yeah definitly interesting

[@jelmer-hendrikveen2722]

+joe man Good idea, maybe Trump can get someone in.

[@spl4tty]

+joe man true that. i just watched thijs today and he is excited about the "entombed" card and said this card is so strong because of removal, not dealing with deathrattle AND get a card in your own deck... so i am confused about all the new cards and i think, because of lacking time, i have to count on hearthpwn a few days later :/

[@DammitSinged]

Explorer's Hat + Echoing Ooze + Rivendare + Feign Death = Fedora Collection *WHICH IS DANK*

[@CarlEPettersson]

DammitSinged.

[@jonathanhayes3607]

Euphoric*

[@Songovstorms15]

+DammitSinged I did this with druid before BRM came out. But instead of using Explorers hat I used mark of the wild, and instead of feign death I used soul of the forest. It was an ok deck, but not really o.p

[@ArgentumEmperio]

+Alexandre Gareau At least you got hats.

[@furicuri3]

Free Hats!!!

[@silvsilvsilv]

Anyfin Can Happen is a card for the future. Blizzard has shown that they will keep releasing new Murlocs, and with every good one they release, ACH becomes a little bit better, until a critical mass of good (midrange) Murlocs has been reached. I think it's good Blizzard designs cards with an eye towards future sets. Cards that seem unplayable now, but are just waiting for the right synergy.

[@Killmatronix]

And then people will be actually keeping their Hungry Crabs. Hah, no. Control Murloc is blasphemy. I can't see it ever happening. Another thing worthy of note is that warleader won't be very good in control Murloc.

[@silvsilvsilv]

Aljaž Nahtigal Magic has plenty of examples of different cards with years between them working together very well. The same will happen in Hearthstone.

[@yinyang9096]

anyfin can happen is actually pretty good I think. the weakness of murlocs is that they will get board cleared. but then with that card you get them all back. #value

[@ПавелШарпов-к5л]

+silvsilvsilv they will never release huge murlocs, because murloc knight exists

[@silvsilvsilv]

Павел Шарпов I don't think that's an argument for Blizzard to not release any big Murlocs. They have shown to embrace the randomness of the game, so giving people a big murloc with a small chance (at least 1 in 15, since there are 14 murlocs already) won't be a big problem in Blizzard's eyes, I'm guessing.

[@heyitsyeh]

Sacred Trial: the Secret that will always remain a Secret.

[@CharterForGaming]

+heyitsyeh patch xx: We have decided to change the text on the "Sacred Trial" Card to make it more true to it's actual use. "When this secret is played, it will never trigger"

[@BlazeTaleo]

+Tholyn no it just doesn't have text

[@therelaxedone]

+heyitsyeh still don't know why people don't see how good this card can be. look at Paladin flooding the board, look at Hunter flooding the board, look at Warlock Zoo(or Handlock later in the game) flooding the board. even Dragon Priest, Controle Warrior or Druid can at one point have 4 things on the board. So why will this hit nothing again? And even the best way to counter Secret Paladin is to play minions yourself or always clearing the board......that is easiest with having guys on the board....(only deck that can afford not to is freeze mage). Don't know why people are writing this card off while there is such a heavy tempo/minnion meta.

[@SmashMyPitchUp]

+therelaxedone but kinda Mind Control Tech. It does not see play either. And if this secret is going to be insane I quit HS ._.

[@CharterForGaming]

therelaxedone maybe at the start it will see play. but eventually people will do the same thing as mirror entity. play a weak minion when you have 3 minions out. I do think it will be sort of usefull in arena. since there are so many paladins there right now, that you can use it on them more often. if it doesn't trigger on their "guys"

[@Tracy_AC]

Turn 4 Jungle Moonkin. Warlock responds with Turn 5 Bane of Doom for 4 into Mal'Ganis. #RIPeroni

[@AREPlp]

+Tracy Coxon Then you Mulch and give them... another Mal'Ganis.

[@MaeseEidos]

+AREPlp Or Varyan.

[@TrueXhomerS]

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[@TisDeKenny]

+Tracy Coxon Turn 4 Jungle Moonkin, Warlock gets 6 imps and summons a 5/5 for one mana.

[@WhismurWanders]

+Tracy Coxon Or hunter gets 4 damage explosive traps...

[@thetearex1518]

Mage: Animated Armor. Unstable Portal. Get Master of Disguise I think it is called. Win.

[@DagasNeedle]

Excepting AOE or flare

[@thetearex1518]

DagasNeedle Way to ruin my dreams. Kappa

[@tajrd08]

Why not just stealth malganis from unstable portal?

[@BlazeTaleo]

Flamestrike Flamecannon Flamekappa

[@pepinillorick5741]

+Brian Vo C'MON jus put the master of disguise in rogue and play bot piloted sky golem and sneed old srhedder and pray to all god's to get either malganis or animated armor xD

[@dima-dimagers]

"I don't think Forgotten torch will fit into freeze mage - go prove me wrong." And now literally everyone runs it in freeze mage. Top kek.

[@SuperSymn]

Is there even enough room around Uther's head?

[@BlazeTaleo]

Actually, no, you can only have 5 secrets in play and now there's 7 for pally

[@kuro13wolf]

+Blaze Taleo What? Seven? Are you serious? Seven? What? Only pally? What?! Oh you mean seven total secrets you can add to your deck. Jesus you almost gave me a heart attack.

[@BlazeTaleo]

Rhyme Bito lol

[@PanzerYeena]

So... if you only had one Murloc Warleader die in the game, does it summon 7 Warleaders? Because that's pretty OP if you're not dead already.

[@Modica29435]

+Fenrir No, it plays up to 7 murlocs, one for each that has died. No multiples unless you had multiples die.

[@Skappy616]

+Fenrir lol, if it worked like that you could just put one Old Murk-Eye in your deck for 56 burst damage out of nothing, I think I'm getting Patron Warrior PTSD

[@RunderKeks28]

+Joseph Modica It's worth mentioning, though that it also summons murlocs from your opponent for you. I think Trump also overlooked that.

[@kuro13wolf]

+RunderKeks28 Is it worth mentioning though?

[@RunderKeks28]

Rhyme Bito Yes, it is.

[@casvandeven2565]

explorer's hat+ baron rivendare= fun

[@swordlunge]

However, playing more than one explorer's hat per turn is more viable in the late game, and getting into the late game implies a Control playstyle, which in turn is not a hunter's specialty.

[@OMGitsStevenT]

Cas stfu i didnt even know u commentaar xD lol hes my friend i live in the same town as him

[@OMGitsStevenT]

+Steven Tibosch comment*

[@casvandeven2565]

+Steven Tibosch oke

[@Jeagall]

10:20 Isnt the map to the golden Monkey a neutral spell ? :D

[@HeinibrotherXV]

+Jeagall It´s a token. You can only discover collectible cards :)

[@metalgamer21]

The powerful artifacts are too, along with bananas

[@Jeagall]

HeinibrotherXV me sad now ;(/

[@horeshack1226]

It's not an actual card otherwise you would also get the etc spells.

[@finnqwert7409]

The cards from elite Tauren chieftain are neutral too, but they're not collectible so you can't get them from discover

That 6 murlocs artwork is a promise to the future, because there are actually 7 murlocs, the 7th being invisible. That means in the future there will be a murloc with stealth. Can't wait!

[@12Rman21]

jungle moonkin is pretty good with living roots turn 5 aswell

[@simongroot5246]

I think Raven Idol is good in token druid.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Or even any Druid actually

[@KingOfBlades27]

+Simon Groot I was thinking the exact same thing. Violet Teacher + Raven Idol + low cost spell you got from raven = Amen :D

[@simongroot5246]

+KingOfBlades27 Amen :)

[@EMCEBANANA]

+KingOfBlades27 Raven idol into raven idol into raven idol into... INFINITE GUYS

[@iownthisaccount2]

+KingOfBlades27 Violet Teacher + Raven Idol + Raven Idol you got from Raven Idol + Raven Idol you got from the second Raven Idol.....

[@LlorracTN]

With anyfin can happen, since it won't summon the same minion twice (assuming you haven't played 2 of the same card). It's probably going to summon almost every murlock you've played before turn 10. This means that it would summon a warleader with the other 6 murlocks and then any murlock becomes a mid range with +2/+1. Still not sure if it would be used, but it isn't as bad as it seems.

[@Killmatronix]

+Zombi Pineapple Nobody plays oracles. Too much RNG. Won't happen.

[@thischannelhasnocontent8629]

+Aljaž Nahtigal How are oracles RNG at all?

[@htuy42]

+ThisChannelHasNoContent RNG as in matchup specific. You basically cannot win against a hunter if you draw them 2 cards free, because each of their cards does damage and the only real weakness they have is a lack of draw power. Close to the same can be said for mage and druid.

[@Killmatronix]

ThisChannelHasNoContent Too much RNG as in only playing those murlocs through the course of the game. You usually don't even plan getting to 10 with murlocs.

[@michaelcooper7678]

Hey!!!!

[@jackfink338]

The seventh Murloc is taking the picture

[@doomsdaydreamer]

Anyfin can happen combos with everyfin is awesome thou.

[@SmashMyPitchUp]

Two different classes though, your only possibilities are Nexus champion or to be given by a spellslinger :/

[@todd2771]

+excaliboah :c Grand Crusader also

[@SmashMyPitchUp]

Todd Bell Yes, sorry, forgot about it.

[@Edzter]

great timing, I was thinking of 'what to do for 20 minutes before the new tavern brawl'

[@catdogfishdogcats]

Omg, I have been refreshing for this part :OOO

[@RufioRush]

"Kripparian said it was good? Ahhh...he's wrong" Fucking savage mate. Love it.

[@jacobharris4207]

Mounted raptor into angry chicken! That beast synergy man, it's really getting there.

[@SagaciousSilence]

Mages best cards: Frostbolt and Fireball. How Mage loses games: you have to use your frostbolts and fireballs to clear minions. The cure: Forgotten Torch! I have to disagree with trump here, forgotten torch is EXACTLY what Mage needed. It's a card that can clear two minions without requiring the Mage to exhaust it's win conditions: fireballing the opponent down.

[@samiamrg7]

I love the flavor of Explorer's hat. You are just giving all your minions hats and making them stronger. Then there is the image of giving one minion like, 5 hats and it wears all of them. Imagine say, a Savannah Highmane, King's Elek, or that new Camel wearing 5 Explorers hats stacked on top of one another.

[@JoViljarHaugstulen]

Hmmm Raven Idol could possibly be used in with Violet Teacher in a token kind of deck then you get to chose what you need/want and you also get a 1/1 And well if you are lucky and choose spell and get innervate then you might get a lot of 1/1's (you gain 2 1/1's and 1 mana to cast more spells with)

[@lucianoimperio7986]

1:53 You are the only one who recognized the strngth of this card :D

[@LordTails66]

Sacred Trial is good especially because you now have to play around it. If it falls out of favor it can catch people off guard and you always have to keep it in mind.

[@RaawHax]

My problem with how Trump reviews Sacred Trial is that, even though they know what secret you have, they'll be limited to 3 minions on board indefinitely/until they throw one away. 1 mana destroy a random minion; or limit your opponent's board to 3 minions. Against aggro, you can deal with a minion proactively, and since all of their minions are about equal in threat level, it doesn't really matter which one it is. Against Control you limit their board to 3, or they have throw away a valuable minion, since Control decks tend to run more expensive well statted minions. Trump doesn't like "win-more" cards. Well Sacred Trial is exactly a catch up card. It's dirt cheap, it's effective and it's literally just fire and forget.

[@ubinbamboozled]

" Kripp said it was good? He's wrong. " LOL

[@alainboudreau4636]

"So, it turns out that.... anyfin cannot happen......Oops. So funny.

[@seschoscho8599]

+Alain Boudreau "

[@MrRainbowZombieMan]

Is think that sacred trial could be used with eadric and humility so that you're only taking 3 damage per turn, until the secret breaks. Seems like it'd be good against control

[@Pieman16145]

But then you're running humility and this garbage secret to deny one minion only against control. And how often do control decks have 4 minions?

[@TheSquareOnes]

+MrRainbowZombieMan An interesting possibility but keep in mind that they could just suicide something into Eadric to free up a slot. I think the card is still decent though, at the very least it can be very annoying to play around. Being forced to only have three minions is a lot worse than people are giving it credit for in many situations, even if you often have less most games will see at least one turn where you might want to put out more.

[@WastelandPuppy]

Raven Idol is a perfect fit for a Ramp Deck or even Astral Communion. Think about it, it's a card you'd always keep in your opening hand.

[@TT-bf6vy]

I think Sacred Trial has potential, you could think of it as 1 mana destroy a random enemy minion. That doesn't sound too bad?

[@starkillred1951]

It's bad because it requires 3 other minions on your opponents side to be good.

[@spacemoose200]

The reason it's bad is because it will be the easiest to play around. Most try not to play more than 3 minions anyways on the off chance of mind control tech. Once they realize what the secret is, they will simply make it a point not to activate it. If they do have to get rid of it, they will just play a death rattle to turn it into their advantage against you

[@angelgodplace]

+Tuomas Turpeinen the card is as good as an mctech that your opponent knows you have in hand

[@JamJestKesh]

+Tuomas Turpeinen They may just play aroud it, trading away their minions, playing around MCT at the same time. And if they have this many minions at once, they would play Gormok, and nobody does that, and quality of minion you are killing is around a leper gnome, mad scientist at best.

[@Fiiischinator]

You could also think of it as one mana-discard a card. Which it is most of the time.

[@jarrodmcnicholl8451]

"Your opponent won't have 1 cost minions in your deck" You're damn right *Heisenberg*

[@marcosamm12]

best review so far

[@bindair_dundat]

Does Discover combo with Cromaggus? Will you get 2 of the Discovered Spell/Minion if you had him out?

[@Med1umentor]

5:10 - there is actually really 7 murlocks. There is hand with weapon in left bottom corner. Considering the colour of skin - he is 7th.

[@Attelino]

The 7th one took the picture!

[@kuro13wolf]

+Med1umentor That's just the blue one, its arms fade from blue to green. There's only 6. hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/c/c0/Anyfin_Can_Happen.png Here's a close up.

[@Phagocytosis]

1:24 Does anyone have a link to Kripp saying Sacred Trial is good? I couldn't find it.

[@Dracoblues]

The Cammel might have one extra good side effect if combined with a 1 card cost in deck with good effect, and it is that you are also eliminating the possibility of getting that 1 cost card in late game, when you usually don't want it. Of course, this also benefits your opponent if he does have a 1 cost mana in deck (I believe this will be crucial vs Mages but cool vs most of the rest, and very good anti-Druid card).

[@devincarter8155]

so how do you do this review is this a program provided by blizzard or some good editing on your part? maby even a program you wrote? im really curious

[@Mejoree113]

Trump seems to be saying that Forgotten Torch is bad because you don't want to replace one of your utility cards with it, but in my mind it's a natural replacement for fireball. I haven't played much freeze mage so maybe I'm wrong, and please correct me if I am haha

[@InlandTaipan822]

What would happen if you got Aviana from Sneed's old shredder and you then played Desert Camel? Would it be possible to get Deathwing from the desert camel?

[@angelgodplace]

thijs said forgotten torch is great in freeze mage

[@ShamliseG]

+Antonio Craveiro I feel like it would be hard to make room for it however. I don't see it working especially well, time will tell.

[@angelgodplace]

Alexander Pallotta he actually played with it already

[@ShamliseG]

Antonio Craveiro in freeze mage? I think it's a great card, just not sure about it's role in freeze mage.

[@angelgodplace]

Alexander Pallotta yes he played it in freeze mage. I think he took out healbot and something else

[@TheClydefrog1]

+Antonio Craveiro people have diff views?

[@mikkelna]

What is Trump saying at 22:48-22:50?

[@schmurble2254]

"Uh, this might be good enough to make into even those decks."

[@schaakakon9473]

Is the coin considered a neutral spell? That can be discovered?

[@Dagzik]

explorers hat can be used in some mill deck with freezing trap. can be a thing. maybe even fatigue aspect with camel. faing death on these two commons wich draws card for your opponent and putting minnion on board.

[@Urza26]

I want to play Baron Rivendare beside explorer hat and echoing ooze for a casual deck. Maybe also include in Kelthuzad and Lorewalker Cho to give opponents hats as well. Hats for everyone!

[@TheZombifiedGuy]

Not sure if anyone pointed this out before, but against priest Desert Camel has the interesting possibility of pulling Northshire Cleric out of their deck in a situation where you can kill it for free (or deny any card draw with it). Pretty fringe benefit but it'll probably happen every now and then and make priests sad.

[@CuriousMoth]

You know what'd be a cool hero power design, should any new classes ever come out? 2 mana, give a friendly character +1 attack or an enemy minion -1 attack. When you think about it, the Explorer's Hat is better than that, albeit less flexible. I think it could be quite a nice one-of card.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

So it's the hero power from fullas demon hunter?

[@CuriousMoth]

shuvo rahman I have no idea who that is ^^

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

+CuriousMoth he is making hs mod that's all I can say

[@ComradeAlpharius]

+CuriousMoth +1/+1 or temporary -1/-1 would be better

[@CuriousMoth]

Alpharius Problem with that is it's just straight up better than the mage hero power, which means it'd be overpowered.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Another paladin secret? Seems blizzard wants to add another ornament to their uther Christmas tree of brokenness . Isn't it beautiful?

[@StillEternity2]

+En Joshi Godrez Yeah but the secret isn't very good, and Challenger can only pull 5 secrets anyway, so very small chance it ever gets run outside of testing, unrefined decklists.

[@kundatrix]

+StillEternity2 challenger says put one copy of EVERY secret into the battlefield, not put 5 random secrets

[@Yummygem_]

+Sebastian Petruška regardless of what it's card text says it really can only pull 5 secrets at once

[@Jonjon13Jonjon13]

+Sebastian Petruška there's a cap on secrets by game mechanics, and that's 5 secrets. There can't be more than 5 secrets on play at the same time.

[@kennethcula4522]

+Sebastian Petruška It is only possible to have 5 secrets out at a time.

[@dacliff]

Does Desert Camel's BC trigger summoned minion's BCs?

[@tmark66]

Oh nice, Paladin gets arguably the best card in the set. Again. Great.

[@flamingbagofcrisps9157]

Keeper of Ulduman+Hammer of wrath, play a 3/4, kill an enemy minion and draw a card. Turns out it's preeeeeetttttyyyy gooooooooddddd.

[@doctorpeng7867]

i read that in kripp's voice xD

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

I think it's not that great, paladin already hasty way to many 4 drops in the deck. I think this might replace murloc knight in the deck

[@DomoMoogle]

+shuvo rahman definitely not both murloc Knights, maybe only 1

[@silvsilvsilv]

+tmark66 Well, after being at the absolute bottom of the pile in Classis and Naxx, I'm kind of okay with it. Every class will have or has had it's time on top. Secret Paladin won't be the best for all time.

[@allmightypig1464]

if anyfin can happen, summons copies of the same murloc, i see paladins playing only old murk eye, suiciding it into an enemy minion, and stalling into the late game, playing this card and gettingt 7 8 attack charge minions.

[@okamiwolf250]

You called it. Take my upvote.

[@ThatsJustExquisite]

Is it possible to ever discover the coin with a discover a spell card text?

[@BlazeTaleo]

Shots fired at 7:28

[@MadsThormann]

Hi Trump. Big fan. Are you planning on uploading contracted gameplay anytime soon? It has been a lot of arenas, F2P and other games lately. Cheers.

[@herobabe1272]

Very nice video again trump.

[@youtubeuser8152]

I think dart trap has some potential for a face Hunter, the trap can help secure lethal by preventing your opponent from healing(priest) or armor(warrior). Also warlock and Hunter use hero power a lot so it might have some use.

[@J1h7e7]

Looking back on this video as ONiK is about to come out, i find it hilarious how often he mentions druid beast decks now that we have a 1 mana 2/2 coming out.

[@daxexter2754]

I wanna play a Summoning Stone Mage Deck..... I need opinions, what do you guys think about that?

[@Bogard2312]

Desert Camel drawing Injured Kvaldir. That's 2 2-4s (4-8 worth of stats) for 3 mana. I might have to try that out.

[@ThallanarRabidtooth]

I foresee more control hunters with the Desert Camel. Zombie Chow, Injured Kvaldir, etc.

[@kuro13wolf]

+Thallanar Rabidtooth Midrange, certainly. Control, certainly not.

[@ThallanarRabidtooth]

Rhyme Bito There's a control hunter deck floating about that uses Gazh'rilla, and the 2 drop that lets Hunters target minions with their hero ability. I built it a while ago and it was fairly successful.

[@kuro13wolf]

Thallanar Rabidtooth That's a legendary and two epics isn't it? Unless you specifically happened to open those cards I doubt people would want to craft them for a fairly successful deck.

[@ericgordon7771]

Does sacred trail Instakill the opponent if they played jarraxxus with 3 or more minions?

[@TheCarrottop666]

I want to try Explorer's Hat + Violet teacher, seems fun. I actually already have a board control hunter deck in my mind that seems like it has a lot of potential.

[@RyanLeeiseelnayrbackwards]

Isn't the primary counter to secret pally trying to contest the board? Doesn't putting a temporary cap on their board size make secret pally harder to counter? when you consider that the text for mysterious challenger us essentially "6mana 6/6 transform an enemy's attack into a buff and a 2/1", you want as many attacks as possible to ensure that you can waste one on triggering the MC chain and still have enough options in your turn left actually getting to deal with the card. This slows that down. That's why the best match up against secret pally is midrange because midrange pally can flood the board. This card is like an (admittedly worse) Unleash in that it lets the deck punish what would otherwise be the easiest way to deal with it.

[@RyanLeeiseelnayrbackwards]

also consider that if you wanna get rid of a minion to play around the cap that you have to waste at least two attacks doing that if noble sac is out and none of your minions die to 2 damage. Which is a big if, but also an example of how playing around a secret can also be an effect of the card. playing around a secret like this is also easier when you're ahead, which considering secret pally, you probably won't be.

[@kuro13wolf]

+Ryan Lee It's a bad secret to get from MC since they opponent will lose their board to him, and a bad one to play from your hand since every secret is bad to play from your hand.

[@Belinera]

"Kripparian said it was good? Eh, he's wrong." Class.

[@LkBanny]

Sacred Trial can actually see play in this Aggro Meta now, Anyfin is just for some troll decks. The Torch is okay, Animated Armor can be good against exact lethal, Druid Combo, Malygos Bursts or FreezeMage Burst-Combo. It's kinda similiar to Loatheb. Against Hunter you'll often HeroPower because you don't want to give him Unleash-Value so you just Hp which triggers the Secret. Camel is perfect for Hybrid Hunter( Knife Juggler into Camel into Houndmaster) and the Hat is nice if you get if of a Spellslinger in Mage :D Raven Idol is my favourite. Idol into Wrath or Wild Growth or maybe you get Innervate,Swipe or a Combo Piece. I'll test it out just like the Raptor instead of Shade.

[@Otuomi]

So with Anyfin can Happen you run Old Murk Eye, hope the opponent runs no murlocs, and survive until turn 10 to summon 7 8/4 charge murlocs?

[@catdogfishdogcats]

Paladin got a Good card, all I needed to hear :3

[@JamesBideaux]

is shredder bad for 5 mana? It might still see some play.

[@Aquilenne]

Why would you rather have forgotten torch than frostbolt and fireball?

[@jgordon707]

Do 7 murlocs have to die to cast it? Just have one murloc knight die and then get 7?

[@yoyu822]

for sacred trial: wouldnt it be not as terrible if someone plays muster turn 3, then like shredder (or any 4-mana minion) turn four?

[@ciao_shibe1517]

What if u play the legendary murloc with charge and the war leader as your only murlocs, then play ANYFIN can happen? Could you easily get 7 charge minions which have 8 attack because for each one, there are 6 other murlocs? And 7 war leaders would lead to 7 15/9's ? Or is that not possible?

[@robbedoes77]

Personally think the Raven Idol is way better than you said. With a choice of 3 spells early game you are almost guaranteed to get value out of it. It's basically better than 1mana draw 1 card. If you get it later in the game, you just pick a minion, a good chance with druid that it's an annoying minion. On top of that, you get to choose what fits your situation, if you are looking for an AoE, Taunt, a specific mana drop for the current turn or next turn...

[@pixelmeth]

4:60, think about the 30 damage Anyfin Can Happen OTK though :O Put EXACTLY 7 murlocs in your deck. Old Murk Eye, 2 Warleaders, 2 Bluegill Warriors, 2 Grimscale Oracles. Just get them all to die, throughout the game and this card when used on an empty board will give you EXACTLY 30 charge damage. 2 Warriors(2 base + 4 from Warleader +2 from Oracles) at 8 damage each, and Old Murk Eye(2 base + 4 from warleader + 2 from Oracles + 6 from self buff) at 14 damage. 8+8+14=30 damage. Rest of the deck can by stall or cycle. You could even put Eadric the Pure in it, the card you seemed to love the design of when it was announced.

[@chibiraptor]

7 "good" druid spells: Force, Savage, Wrath, Innervate, Wild Growth, Swipe, and Living Roots. 24 total druid spells. The chance of getting a choice of one of the good druid spells with Raven Idol is ~66.5% Would you spend 1 mana for a 2/3 chance of getting one of those spells?

[@CheeseMuncher14]

1:23 Kripparian's opinion doesn't count FeelsBadMan

[@picklestirfry]

Since when did it ever count?

[@champdude17]

+Mr.Light A player who wasn't good enough to compete so turned to casting, his opinion should definately be valued.

[@MrEquusQuagga]

+Mr.Light Well he's wrong about that card.

[@MeldinX2]

+champdude17 Compete in a virtual RNG card game? Seems legit.

[@dethshockbio]

+champdude17 It's actually hilarious how ignorant this comment is, since Kripp has only ever entered one tournament and he got 2nd place. Not being interested in a thing doesn't mean you're bad at that thing.

[@Crociato233]

that hoodie... so comfy

[@hughmungus2192]

When you discover a spell, can the coin come up?

[@soytack]

24:42 he said it again!

[@KieranSteeves]

Can the coin be discovered? its a neutral spell isnt it?

[@DragonRafify]

Why not take out fireball for forgotten torch???

[@Foolery99]

Could there be a token like hunter to come out of LoE?

[@Kassen777]

What about deset camel in a midrange deck. 4 health makes it a great houndmaster target. Run webspinner and kvaldir and the value or card draw is insane. 2-4 just fine against aggro

[@cyaanure7284]

If you play only the legendarie Murloc in your deck.. He die and you play turn 10 anyfin can happen.. You summon 7legendarie Murloc with charge?

[@Jambunctious]

Dart Trap would make more sense thematically and be a better card if it split the 5 damage up into 5 1's. what is it, a giant dart?

[@Phoenixsuns1001]

Great sign off! "HOLY CRAP I'M HUNGRY!"

[@Xelights]

Finally someone who sees the forgotten torch as a bad card.

[@parak00pa]

I'm positively surprised by how good Trump rates many of the LoE cards. I kinda expected him to shit all over most of them, but the fact that he calls out potential for a lot of these really makes me even more excited for the expansion. :) And hey, its release is TOMORROW! oh wait... I'm on EU server. :/

[@pitadude9836]

don't feel like reading the comments, is discover based on YOUR class or the card's class?

[@CarrowMind]

Isn't the coin technically a neutral spell? So could the Ethereal Conjurer theoretically get you a coin?

[@ichmag11]

+CarrowMind Im sure coin is a token, just like you cant discover the 1/1 boar from Razorfen hunter, could be wrong doe

[@MrEgyptian96]

keeper of uldaman turned out to be interesting

[@archertoon2]

Is it bad that I actually think that both Fel Reaver and Forgotten Torch are good cards? Forgotten Torch ideally let you deal with early game minion, then draw it later to deal with big minion, most of the ideal thing happen a lot you know.

[@wecros3249]

+archertoon2 forgotten torch is good, trump doesnt understand

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Um actually pretty much everyone in hs right now think fell reaver is good. And some even think it's op. Have you ever faced aggro Druid? It's a very good deck that reeks aggro pally and it's running 2 of them

[@Madhattersinjeans]

+archertoon2 I like Forgotten Torch, in the best case it's going to be used vs a control deck, in which case those games can go long. Which means the chance of drawing the roaring torch increase and you're usually going to have a turn where you just can't spend your mana efficiently. Helps a future draw later. Against aggro the 3 damage to a minion is very relevant and you're improving your future draws with the potential to get that 6 damage spell in future. Although admittedly against aggro you won't have that many draws to get it. However I will say in the current meta forgotten torch (and a whole host of these new cards) are just too slow or not unfair enough to see any play in ranked. Bad vs minibot, deathrattle cards in general, an awkward draw in the late game. In arena forgotten torch is okay, it's not great and there will be times where 3 damage isn't enough. But those games are much more likely to last 9+ turns than the current ranked meta so the card text is quite relevant. Maybe it could work in a new kind of mage burn deck? Maybe some kind of mid-range/aggressive mage deck? Minor neat things: Great card to get from spellslinger, has that psychological effect on your opponent that the quartermaster has with muster for battle. You just know that 6 damage burn is coming at some point so you better put on the pressure or you'll lose. The 3 mana slot isn't that crowded for most mages (unless it's secret mage) so it could be a neat tech card? Chromaggus synergy? Thaurissan synergy? tldr: It's a good card in a slower meta, a good card in arena (removal is always useful in arena) and maybe in a fatigue mage? But for the current meta it shares the same drawback as the majority of cards from TGT. It's a well balanced card. :(

[@ovarer]

turn 3 your opponent plays a 3/3 you torch it turn 4 he plays a 4/5 you get the powerd up torch you kill it yes you gain value but at a heavy cost of tempo thats why its bad (with all the huntards and seacret paladins tempo is thr biggest thing you need at the meta)

[@osmium6832]

+archertoon2 Trump overcompensates by exaggerating how good fel reaver is in order to make a point. He acts like whether or not you think fel reaver is amazing is like a hearthstone IQ test. It's not as bad as it seems at first glance, but it's also one of a handful of cards that can directly cause you to lose the game within a turn or two if countered. Hard removal, BGH, sticky taunts like annoyotron or sludge belcher, aldor peacekeeper, sap, and freeze all can lead to your entire deck getting discarded. Almost every tool that can deal with an 8/8 is available at 5 mana. Yes, it's true that if there is no counter then you can "discard their face," but the same is true of any large minion that goes uncontested. It's a very all-in play that says that the game is going to end soon, one way or another, and despite what Trump says, there ARE consequences. Losing 3 cards is not a big deal. Losing all but 3 cards? Big deal. The odds are extremely low that those 3 are going to be 2 crackles and a lava burst. Other notable examples of backfires are millhouse against a druid with double force + double roar, Jaraxxus against Nefarian that pulled a sacrificial pact, and Majordomo Executus in pretty much any scenario. Fel reaver is slightly less risky than Majordomo in suicide potential. If you had 20 cards and discard 15 (average result, from my experience), the odds that your burn spells are discarded is 3 times more likely than if they were on the bottom of the deck. Judging from Trump's own videos, fel reaver helps him win the game about 20% of the time that it's played. 40% of the time he loses directly because of it and the other 40% it's countered with no large swing either way. I also think forgotten torch is good, so I'm apparently just an idiot according to Trump. I do agree that it makes freeze mage a little weaker by negating some card draw, though. It trades tempo for value.

[@igor78965412320]

Well, you're not just gainning 1 mana with Unstable Portal. In some situations when you get a big minion, you're investing 2 mana and a card to gain 3 mana in a turn that you'll have spent no mana. So, you, in some cases, are able to summon a minion 3 turns earlier. Let's picture this scenario: Savanna Highmane turn 3 > Dr. Boom turn 4.

[@soysoss12345]

it's basically 2 mana: "gain a random card and add an innervate and coin to your hand."

[@CAPT_Crack]

+sumu115 Basically, minus the discard effect, so it may be a little worse because you can ONLY use it on that minion, but hey.

[@MaeseEidos]

+Igor Mendonca Malygos in turn 6 in tempo mage. Yep, I did it to a friend, he was freeze mage. The key word here is "was".

[@RunderKeks28]

+Igor Mendonca But you're spending 1 turn doing nothing. People always underestimate that.

[@DarkSerris]

+Igor Mendonca That's the best case scenario, balanced by the fact that you can get a 3 mana or less minion, and don't gain anything from the card

[@lucianoimperio7986]

I think Keeper of Uldaman it s going to prove to be much better than what many people thinks

[@m1keyz266]

Hey guys I've been playing Hearthstone for about 2 weeks now and I want to buy one of adventure expansions which adventure is the best to go for ?

[@winterchild69]

Naxx for sure

[@m1keyz266]

I'm looking at doing a shaman build based on totems and i think i need a few cards from naxx so I'll go for that.

[@Sladepheonix]

I wonder if Ethereal Conjurer can discover the Roaring Torch

[@ToM92MoT]

If just one Murloc died in the game (namely Old Murk Eye), does Anyfin can happen summon 7 Murk Eyes or just one?

[@mondomg]

+ToM92MoT just one murloc for every murloc that has died in the game. So it can summon your opponent's Old Murky Eye if it has died in that game