Try These 3 EASY Ways Keep Squirrels Out of Your Garden

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[@carmelassanctuaryofsquirrels]

Thanks for these squirrel-friendly tips on ways to keep them out of your garden without harming them in the process. As a wildlife rehabilitator that specializes in squirrels, it's refreshing to see someone recommending methods that don't harm the squirrels. Didn't know about the peppermint oil trick... I'll have to try that one out in my strawberry beds next year. My garden is actually planted FOR the squirrels - so that I can feed them while rehabilitating them. But I have found that the chipmunks (a ground squirrel) will actually eat all of them as they ripen, so I don't end up with any for the rehabilitating squirrels. Looking forward to seeing if this will be the solution I've been looking for! Thanks!!! ~ Suzanne

[@dyoung-g2k]

Chicken wire and hardware cloth are not the same thing. Chicken wire the openings are big enough they'll just go through. Hardware cloth holes are 1/4 or 1/2 inch square. That's what you want.

[@JupiKitten]

You'll want to make sure it's steel and not galvanized too.

[@ams228HU]

Accurate. Chicken wire is hexagonal shaped. Hardware cloth is square. Chicken wire is to keep chickens in but not to keep anything out.

[@ams228HU]

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[@lesta.artist]

Thank you for pointing this out. Lately, I’ve heard a couple of people say this not realizing the difference is huge if people have chickens or if someone needs to keep mice, rats, and anything out that could get it’s mouth around the bigger holes and chew into chicken wire. Hardware cloth(what we used to call ratwire) has small enough holes to prevent anything from chewing into it.

[@jamiehopkins630]

Yeah. Garlic won't do well trying to grow through the tiny holes of hardware cloth but should be fine growing through the bigger holes of chicken wire. I use both in my garden as I have a nuisance groundhog that tries to eat EVERYTHING in my garden.

[@kristantaylor1087]

Definitely an acorn and hickory nut abundant year here at my North Carolina home. Squirrels are digging in all my pots and raised beds!! We are surrounded by woods and the squirrel population is very healthy!

[@sheribaioa7585]

Oh my gosh Luke! You heard my cry for help with back yard squirrels! Thank you! You gave me great ideas for next year!

[@wayneu1233]

Thanks for this! We have a 175+ years old black walnut tree in our yard, well away from where I grow vegetables, and this year, perhaps because of the drought, it dropped THOUSANDS of nuts, which attracted huge numbers of squirrels. Keeping ahead of them was a daily job!

[@gferraro8353]

Good news ! Found more garlic bulbs from you that i misplaced. Went to plant and accidentally dug a spot where one was planted. It had huge roots already!! Used your fertilizer!

[@seanaames6855]

Thanks, Luke!

[@davegbp]

red pepper flakes work well also. You can find the large bottle for around five or six dollars. Just remember to reapply after a rain...

[@Steampunk_Samurai]

You can dry your excess pepper harvest and do the same. Good idea. I was literally just thinking about that.

[@afrocraft1]

Neither flakes nor ground pepper work. Ask me how I know.

[@mommaoinnh2674]

Squirrels drive me crazy also! I’ll try the peppermint and cayenne pepper tricks!

[@juliekovach9784]

Thank you so much! All of these tips will be very helpful!

[@deeziemann5478]

Thank you for timely advice on dealing with squirrels. I don't know why they are such a problem this year. We have not experienced this much damage by squirrels in past gardens.

[@chicachicboom]

I mainly plant in containers for a variety of reasons. I also have an old black walnut tree in the yard, so during bumper crop season, combating the squirrels is an extreme sport. They dislike the smell of hen manure (pellet form easily purchased at local hardware stores and garden centres), but so do I. I use that occasionally to try and get my point across to them. I also use small branches and twigs from my yard and arrange them sort of cross hatched on the surface of the soil around the base of the plants. A lot of people use small rocks, but I worry about soil compaction with that. The branches are light and easy to lift up for fertilizing. Anything that will make it harder for them to dig and bury things is beneficial.

[@amykeast7789]

A peanut plant just popped up in my green beans. This is so relevant right now! I lost so many lettuce and bunching onions.

[@tinabloomfield7228]

Glad this popped up ...ive had enough of squirrels right now 😂

[@AlexAnder-rv1gu]

Don't listen to his bad advice. NONE of these old wives tales work. Just get yourself some rat traps and bait them with leftovers.

[@marley9904]

Me too 😡😡😡, and ground hog are just as bad, if not worse.

[@sharibc3597]

I have not used peppermint in the garden but have used it a lot in my home and I’ve added a few drops to my natural bug spray! It works well to keep certain pests away! I’ll give it a try in the garden next year! 😊

[@kevino3357]

How does this man always release videos at the exact time i need them?

[@stephanygates6491]

I had to thank you for showing me watermelon can grow in Michigan! I still have melons to harvest. Best I ever tasted!. Can't say that about most of my efforts, frankly. Keep on educating! (FYI, no link appeared when you said "click here" for another video).

[@norat6126]

Awesome video. Thank you very much. Perfect timing.

[@crystalspaint6483]

I think I'll give the peppermint oil and cotton balls a try. Besides digging up holes in my flower bed, squirrels seem to love to digging into my potted plants.

[@stillwaters7730]

😂 I'm cracking up because I'm wrestling with a rescued squirrel that we have named Fern! She is super spoiled

[@peggyrhoads-ro8us]

Thanks for the info. I gave up on growing lettuce and carrots this fall thinking the squirrels were eating the seedlings. I'll be using chicken wire next year for sure.

[@eyes2see-ears2hear]

I have been at war with squirrels/chickmunks for years. I have used netting for a whule but they figured out how to get under or over it. This year, by Gods grace, I found the solution. Layers of netting. I started with one layer and let the tonatoe plant grow thru it. Once those branchs start flowering, I put in another layer. Now at end of season I have 4 layers. Ive only lost a few tomatoes to the vermin since this discovery. The only issue is that it makes it hard to prune the plants. But the plants have been healthy with good fruit despite the lack of pruning. 😊

[@BackyardPumpkins]

I use bird netting however I bunch it up around my beds like a birds nest keeping it low to the ground. Squirrels won't go near it and birds don't get caught in it. Bonus tip: go to the fabric section at Walmart and get the nylon (or nylon-like) fabric with the tiny holes in it and bunch it up around your needs like a birds nest, same as the bird netting. It's like 34 cents for 4 feet or something 😆

[@texasnurse]

AKA tulle. I use it to keep insects out too.

[@judifarrington9461]

Oh, thank you!! I recently planted my beautiful MI Gardener garlic in my raised bed and my pup pointed out we had chipmunks visiting that bed. I'm going to give the Cayenne pepper a try.

[@darrenwalker905]

Our planters are prime targets for the rascals. Thanks! Will give your suggestions a try!

[@susanmarty5107]

I love the Cayenne pepper idea. I'm using some old garlic powder this year... Thank you for the peppermint oil idea. I didn't even plant squash this year because of the squash vine borer.

[@susanxoxo5825]

I've tried cayenne pepper. It's ok. But you need to sprinkle it on almost every few days. Watering and rain wash it away often.

[@lesta.artist]

Thanks for addressing this. I have trouble with an abundance of well-fed squirrels, mice, and rats in my garden. They dig, but eat tomatoes, peas and beans as well. I had not thought about peppermint oil or cayenne in the garden. Thanks!

[@xanthmom9096]

This year every pepper on my plants has had a squirrel bite in it. They do try the verggies if you dont protect the plants.

[@healthyfitmom]

Planting FORKS pointy side up in small beds can create a physical barrier while plants are small. Also mixing cayenne with old eggs and water while using an old brush to "paint" plants helps keep cayenne sticking on the plants. I did this with corn and it worked. We did have lots of rain that year so it got a bit tedious to redo it. Would love more videos like this. Critter pests are a huge issue. We had to stop filling our bird feeder because of racoons so the cayenne tip in bird feed is great.

[@iloveitUbet]

Hi I’m here because the squirrels think my Michigan backyard is a squirrel park ! Thanks can’t wait to hear how to kindly keep them away!

[@gferraro8353]

Yes same here. I didn't get one tomato this year. Squirrel was up in a tree eating them mocking me. I covered, used pepper spray , it still got in and stole every one of them 😢

[@iloveitUbet]

@@gferraro8353 yes ! It is very frustrating…it’s like they saw me eyeing tomatoes ready to be picked soon and the next day they beat me to it every time!

[@gferraro8353]

@@iloveitUbet lol .same here. Unbelievable!

[@BoycottYoutube]

I suggest sprinkling Espoma Blood Meal on the soil surface once per week. The squirrels in my area do not dig in my pots or beds when using this method. I've even seen them jump on to the deck, bark, flash their tails in anger, and leave. Additionally, it provides small amounts of nitrogen to help keep the soil healthy. Note, Espoma is the only brand I've found that works, and it doesn't stink. I tried Tru Organics, and although it's stinky, the squirrels didn't care and dug anyway.

[@freeatlast1423]

​@@iloveitUbeti have that trouble with birds and my fruit bushes and strawberries

[@Steampunk_Samurai]

This video is perfect timing omg. Literally was trying to think of something because my garlic beds are getting dug into by squirrels too. I thought about sprinkling my dried peppers over the top of my straw mulch

[@sunsetsky594]

I will definitely try out these tips. Thank you so much for this video.

[@mercurybard9794]

I planted a bed of garlic yesterday and immediately covered it with hardware cloth. This young, punk squirrel and I have been having an extended "discussion" about whose garden it is. In fact, he was in my recently denuded tomato bed when I sat down to watch this video. (Am I the crazy lady who has been known to throw open her kitchen window and scold him like he's a misbehaving puppy? Yes, yes, I am... and he slunk out of the bed and over to a tree stump and gave me the cold shoulder when I did it.)

[@alanprice9712]

I have squirrels eating my tomatoes. They pull them off the vine and chew holes in them then leave the balance to rot. Chicken wire is normally 1 inch holes and not super strong. Hardware cloth is usually made in 1/4 inch or half inch holes, is very stiff and capable to hold off raccoons. My squirrels eat my cayenne peppers so the spray you suggest will not work for me.

[@dustyflats3832]

True about that light weight bird netting. We had a snake caught in it and don’t wear any buttons around it or glasses😅. I wonder how much birds can taste because our roosters always run to the Tabasco plants 😂. It rained too much this summer that it was impossible to use anything as it would be washed off-Now drought. Some sort of fence laid over is good idea as those squirrels are busy which tells me maybe winter is returning.

[@kaleigh5125]

I always thought hardware cloth had smaller holes, than chicken wire.And it's more expensive.

[@annamarie9858]

Omg - I was soooo wishing you would do a squirrel video when you posted that black walnut video a while back! My neighbors have oak and walnut trees, but I have the dog free garden safe zone. Squirrels get into everything! I find walnuts and acorns tucked in everywhere, and I spend a good solid day pulling up baby trees in the spring. Landscape fabric has helped in my decorative garden, but my veg garden and flower pots get assaulted continuously, and there are little piles of dirt all over as they are messy diggers. Thanks for all the tips - I will be trying a few out! 💚

[@impatti515]

that adds micro plastics to your soil fyi

[@smith452011]

Thank you so much for the tips!! I just stated seeing them in mine ☹️

[@honeybadgers1996]

Great tips. Thanks, Luke.

[@slacker7481]

Thank you for your advice! I have a Hugh squirrel problem. But i live in Central New York and i don't know how the rain will do with these ideas. Especially the powder. I'll keep setting up my live trap and take them for a ride. Love your channel and thank you

[@kimg9606]

Squirrels! Thank you so much for this video ❤️

[@laurieanne9712]

Yes, had a GORGEOUS Papa cardinal get caught in my bird netting the first time using it-----it was the last time!!

[@DanaN43]

Good info, I also bought a pet water dish at the dollar tree and put out for critters, somewhat away from garden. Has definitely reduced squirrels eating my fruits and veggies

[@musicianswife8596]

I had 5 tomatillos and only got enough to make one canner load of salsa and a couple small batches for fresh eating. The squirrels got the rest. Looking forward to trying some these to see if it helps.

[@PLD244]

A dog works well too!

[@ChristiLynnOutside]

Thank you for the great tips! I use chicken wire sometimes to keep away cats and squirrels. Another barrier I like to use is my folding A-frames. I just lay them across the bed and it usually creates just enough of a barrier to discourage the rodents.

[@tinab7791]

Peppermint oil/cotton balls work great! The squirrels were eating my sweet potatoes that were starting to poke through the surface, and the peppermint balls totally stopped them, at least long enough for me to get them finished up and harvested.

[@afishnsea]

I am going to get some bulk cayenne next year, but I'm willing to accept a certain percentage of loss for the squirrels. Gray squirrels are beneficial to the environment and are native to the eastern US. They reforest oak trees with the acorns they plant, which supports biodiversity more than the more aggressive yellow poplar. I love watching the squirrels "meerkat" in the backyard and chase each other around 🐿️

[@TheGPFilmMaker]

The squirrels went crazy on my plants this last year!! Ate at least half my cucumbers and peppers. I'm going to try the peppermint oil technique next year to try and keep them away!

[@kathyengland3534]

Thank you for these tips, Luke. We continue to find pecans in our yard (or i should say our Beagle does) and ther isn't a pecan tree anywhere nearby. And yes, they get to my fruit trees and such (we tried a netting/ didnt keep them out) and squash and pumpkins. I have tried tulle..it helps some. My biggest take away is peppermint oil for the ants.

[@tobruz]

Pellets of dried hen manure works! I also use empty 10/20 netted flats upside down

[@johnwood738]

I’ve had some luck also using Irish spring bar soap cut in the chunks and spread around. Have used the peppermint oil I find after a time they tend to get used to one so I have to go to the other.

[@missietgardendelight6029]

I am frustrated and thinking about not planting another fall garden. In my fenced in area, they ate all the leaves off my broccoli plants. They climbed into a planter and ate dazzling blue kale leaves. Usually, this starts after a few freezes; but squirrels started 2 months earlier this year. I have a lot of other life issues I am dealing with and do not want to be bothered with squirrels destroying my hard work.

[@hollyjasinski7207]

Thank you for mentioning the warning with bird netting. I had no idea it could be such a wildfire hazard when I utilized it for the first time this year. We successfully rescued a baby bird this spring but SEVERAL snakes got caught and tangled up- most didn’t make it…

[@MK-ti2oo]

I deal with heavy, heavy squirrels, ground squirrels, gopher, mole, and vole pressure. Netting will be chewed through overnight. Cayenne only works for a day or two, they just move to different hole. Essential oils never did anything for me. Exclusion by hardware cloth is the only viable option here. I use 1/4 steel under all my raised beds and have removable covers with it that i use until plants are established. I even have to protect my garlic and onions with it because they don't seem to have any qualms with eating them as well. I feel like my gardens are fort knox doing this, plus 8ft fence for deer, plus electric for bears, plus row covers for cabbage worm and the Robins that will just yank up every seedling within a day or two of planting.

[@tamararoberts9307]

I can sooooo relate

[@gferraro8353]

I got nothing this year. Not one tomato!! Netting and pepper spray didn't work . That squirrel was eating my tomatoes in a tree, mocking me. Next year, building sides, top with chicken wire and enclosing ...a few videos ago i was screaming about squirrels. Hot pepper gets expensive..

[@marksieber4626]

Live traps year round.

[@kmw4153]

I feel your pain. I had over 60 apples on one of my trees and every single one was ate by squirrels. They even took my Meyer lemons off the tree on my deck. Took a bite and left it on the side of my deck. Grrrrrr

[@gferraro8353]

@marksieber4626 lol The neighbor behind me would catch and release chipmunks( last year) in exchange for tomatoes. I'm not sure he is willing with squirrels. And I did not get any tomatoes this year, lol .. errggg

[@gferraro8353]

@kmw4153 devastating! Development brings critters to the cities/suburbs/ really everywhere now. Decades ago you could plant anywhere on your property and get plenty of return. I've seen the deer pull the branches toward them to get pears on the top of my moms older trees. Parents ( more land) had beautiful gardens of all different types of plants and vegetables add fruit trees. All gone in a few months. Like 1 summer they took everything out. It was horrible. Edit : Deer

[@eyes2see-ears2hear]

The tomato vs squirrel war is real. About half way thru season I realized that layers of netting work. From the bottom to top of plants I have around 4 layers basically wrapping the tomatoes in netting. It has worked.

[@cardstockcollector]

Thank You!

[@AndrewsVeggiePatch]

Luke, they did eat my corn last year. We put netting and hoops over that and our onions. Thanks

[@WildOrchardOasisFarm]

We have California ground squirrels here in the high desert in Arizona that are horrible! They eat my tomatoes, peppers, melons, squash, dig up my seeds, and seedlings. We have hardware cloth all around the greenhouses and outside beds to keep rattlesnakes out, but the ground squirrels just climb it. They are cute but infuriating. I've tried Cayenne pepper and peppermint oil, and it works for a while, but it's hard to keep up with in a large garden. It does work!

[@mikew8214]

I've got a red tail hawk nesting near my garden. Only the smart ones that stay out of the garden and open part of the yard survive and teach the young ones to do the same.

[@ritagibson225]

I’ve used mint and capsaicin in my garden and in my fruit trees for years. It works. I wish I had something to deter birds.

[@guylamullins3602]

I spray a weak dilution of Dr Bronners Castile with peppermint oil as a pesticide in general. Habanero spray is a great repellant too.

[@NatureScapesStudio]

Nothing has worked for us. Wire has somewhat worked but it has to be left on because they don’t stop. So we trap and relocate to a reserve. Also chipmunks who are worse. Yes we have to do it every day. But eventually we decrease the population for the season. We’ve removed over 100 in the last 3 years. We also have raccoons and rabbits loving and trying to live in our garden without much break. Suburb backyard close to a large park.

[@fransekerak8339]

I’ll be trying this method of yours to deter squirrels,small mammals.. thanks for sharing.

[@heathermj3620]

THANK YOU!!!!!!🎉

[@JupiKitten]

Be careful of galvanized chicken wire. The galvanization process makes the wire toxic. As water falls over it the wire will leech chemicals and heavy metals like lead into your garden soil which will be absorbed by the plants. This is still an excellent tip, just make sure it's stainless steel or at least NOT galvanized. 👍

[@diannplatt-roberts8692]

Thanks for info. Didnt know peppermint would work on ants. Will use next year.

[@michaeldunwoody3629]

Great info!!!

[@sassyherbgardener7154]

One time, I had an ant problem in my kitchen cupboard, so I put peppermint oil in there. It worked great, as far as getting rid of the ants, however, EVERYTHING smelled and tasted like peppermint, LOL!! We had peppermint sandwich bread, peppermint bagels, and the very unpopular peppermint sour cream and onion potato chips!! Bet it works great in the garden!! Thanks!

[@soulseeker42388]

Your worried about them digging your garden. I'm worried about them constantly eating all my tomatoes. Strawberries and black berries

[@gelwood99]

60-year-old trees create more nuts than any human can remove especially when you have plants under the canopy! I had more than 100 tree sprouts coming up in my onion beds! The cayenne pepper sprinkled in the bird feeder is genius since it is hanging outside my front door for us to watch the birds and scare off the squirrels (tree rats) from hanging off the feeder enjoying it, no matter how many creative we get to keep them off!! They also enjoyed eating my green beans, I got 3 green beans this past year, after 4 plantings and watching as they grew and the blooms promising beans only to come out the next day to find the whole plant eaten to a nub!

[@heysuz701]

I can pick up the pecans that have fallen into the beds alone and come in with a pocket full. lol!

[@eeltgroth]

I am curious. What is that hanging pvc?

[@Gardeningchristine]

I think it’s for strawberries? Maybe

[@eeltgroth]

I just found a video from 6 years ago. It’s a vertical strawberry planter. It’s just that the planter looks empty.

[@helenmcclellan452]

Thank you for the tips. I have too many squirrels in our garden.

[@CB-ei3sp]

I find traps very effective also.

[@quakerwildcat]

I add peppermint oil to the weekly antifungal spray I use with my garden. It's marginally helpful. But the squirrels are definitely still taking their share of my garden.

[@savvy2639]

build them a bed of soft soil closer to their stomping tree and they may use that instead of your garden.. critter food garden is a way to distract from your garden 😊

[@Craig_Humphries]

I only have European Red Squirrels, so that might change things. However, while they love to dig and burry things in my beds and plant pots, it doesn't cause any more problems than the average weed. I know that our red Squirrels might be different, but I get more enjoyment from them than frustration from the inconvenience they cause.

[@seanaames6855]

- Sprinkle Cayanne Pepper over newly planted seeds to discourge mammal pests like squirrels and other mammals - Cover crops with chicken wire -Put Peppermint Essential Oil on Cotton Balls and place around the garden (under leaves to help keep the rain off) to discourage mice and squash vine borers from finding the squash.

[@leanette999]

I’ll try the peppermint though, it works to keep spiders from coming in to my house when I remember to apply the peppermint on the windowsills and door jams every month or so.

[@toneyjohnson8910]

I also put cotton balls with peppermint oil under our vehicle hoods we have problems with mice chewing on the wires under the hood. its works great to stop this.

[@talkandeattv]

im tired of these squirrels too !

[@bobert59]

something was taking bites out of my immature cantaloupe this year, even bit the stem right off the vine on a couple. figured it was probably squirrels. so for the rest of my cantaloupes i got out my my bolt of 1/8th inch wire mesh cloth and cut squares big enough to hold a nice big mature cantaloupe. i wrapped them up in it and tied the ends together with some soft-wire plant ties i had lying around. essentially chain-mail for my melons. did it work? well i just finished a nice big bowl of cantaloupe for breakfast so yea it did lol.

[@caroldragon7545]

I know it has nothing to do with gardening, but cotton balls soaked in peppermint oil are a pretty effective way to keep rodents out of yourcars engine compartment when it is sitting for awhile. Rodents can chew on wires.

[@kirstenstoremski3874]

I am sat!!! These squirrels are killing me!

[@annettewilliams3427]

I plant mostly in pots. I find the Hen manure works best to deter the squirrels from digging in the pots. When they start eating my tomatoes, peppers etc. I put some human hair strands on the plants. Seems to works better than anything else i havd tried. My squirrels eat tomatoes while staring right at me!

[@Raul28153]

chicken wire and Hardware cloth are different tings, The hardware cloth is a welded product chicken wire is woven it's thinner too

[@missmaziecat5058]

I thought I had cracked the code last year when I put little organza bags over my large tomatoes and tiny pumpkins - they weren't bothered. But this year was a totally different story! They chewed through the bags or chewed the stem to pop it off and ran away with it. Thanks Luke and I'm combing through these comments. Also, what does NOT work is coyote urine. 2025 ~ I'll be back, squirrels!

[@MichaelFunStories]

dr bronner peppermint soap best thing ever created

[@judymckerrow6720]

I’ve used cayenne pepper before and it works ! The only thing is you have to reapply after a rain. 🎃🍁💚🙃

[@faithbooks7906]

Squirrels have eaten my unripe persimmons and figs! Should I spray with peppermint oil?

[@seanaames6855]

I think he said sprinkle with Cayenne Pepper powder.

[@carolhamilton5164]

Mine are getting several tomatoes as in a day, mine do consume as well as dig. I cover my plants with grates and wire etc. cay and e powder doesn’t bother them at nor do pest sound things or or owls etc they also strip my apple tree every year.

[@ginarivers3779]

Cayenne didn’t work for the squirrels in my garden. Now I’m trying crunched up balls of foil tacked onto my flat topped wooden fence (their path) and also placed around the plants. Be careful with peppermint. Wear gloves or wash your hands with dish soap or vinegar. It is very irritating to eyes and mucus membranes.

[@rickthelian2215]

Oh no Squirrels 😊 Wire mesh for the Garlic😊

[@KR8Z]

Thanks for info anyone deal with Voles?

[@missietgardendelight6029]

Voles decimated my broccoli plants last winter. That summer they ate the roots of some of my pepper, flower, okra plants, etc. This spring I planted lots of green onions and society garlic throughout the raised beds and it worked. This fall, the squirrels have eaten the leaves off my broccoli plants. Challenges and challenges!!!

[@ayecaptin]

Ive had squirrel problems for a while, I started doing most of my fertilizing with Milorganite and I don't think I saw a single one for a year. The bad news is they eventually adapted and came back.

[@brianthomas7037]

one of my neighbors is feeding the squirrels peanuts. I have found peanut plants growing in my yard.

[@michellenoel2725]

Peppermint oil on cotton balls in any space a mouse can get it has prevented mice in my house for years.

[@marthabfoerch2]

Wow, very helpful especially the Cayenne pepper was new to me. The squirrels around me are very distracting too. For instance they knocked all the pears down, shredded them to pick out the seeds in a very young stage. Even the hazelnuts they knock down before they are ripe. Annoying!

[@pamd6633]

Thank you so much. We deal with bunnies, will this work for them?