Trying the "SCAM" Artifact Transmuter (Genshin Impact)

[@mijmijrm]

i would like Hoyo to add a feature where you feed an unwanted character to Paimon and she shits out primogems.

[@DiaborMagics]

i died laughing, thanks xD

[@iforgetiamacat8348]

Yyyyeeesss! 🤣

[@FrostyPeppercorn]

Dori is going right in

[@shatteredspace4495]

Or, we can feed Paimon to the Abyss and get lots of primos 🤔

[@muhammadalaaabulila6060]

xinyan and dori and qiqi

[@401_jaydenn]

Only being able to convert one Sanctifying Elixer per patch is so stupid considering the artifact can roll shitty😭

[@doug3454]

you can get 5 of them from Natlan exploration in this patch (I assume there will be more in future patches - 3 from the Obsidian rings of the remaining tribes, 3 more from Natlan sigil offering... after that I guess/hope they'll include them as event rewards or something).

[@THEWILLBROTHERS3]

Did you guys seriously expect to get godly artifacts for little cost?

[@mozzy2968]

How often are you getting on set double crit goblets normally??? I've gotten maybe 2-3 and I've been playing since launch. Getting them guaranteed at all is insane. Edit: ON SET GOBS not just any gobs

[@noeljames5396]

​@@THEWILLBROTHERS3 that's what QOL means

[@kawaiimika7974]

​@mozzy2968 You give people a car they'll demand an airplane...

[@-iDynal]

The best way to use this is to farm the desired set and then use sanctifying elixir to craft the 4th piece. And it's better to have an offset goblet because it costs too much and is risky.

[@_mako]

having an off set goblet also allows the 4pc set to be transferable, just like moga said. i think the goblet is the biggest trap here unless its used for an elemental set.

[@Boutneus12]

@@_mako depends on which set, u gonna transfer a navia set for example? 🤣

[@joshuwottdelta]

To bad all of my goblet's are actually garbage (except one) on or off set 😭

[@BlackPointt]

Yeh ill definitely use for either sands or circlet since goblets are usualy always an off piece.

[@wahyuwirawan727]

Because there is more random rng on the goblet, it is usually off set unless you lucky

[@ICreams]

There is 3 satisfactory elixirs on the floor in every tribe but you pretty much have to compelete the whole map first to get all of them 2:40

[@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk]

All you have to do is go collect every precious or luxurious chest in the tribes respective region? Not whole map nor Complete? Its just Precious/Luxurious not any exqui or common

[@okkasannan]

i doubt it as i have 100% springs and echoes regions with an interactive map and only got those that where in their secret chambers

[@GamersUnite1209]

@@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk yep! i got the full ring for children of echoes and that area is only 40% complete

[@strobo308]

It's one per tribe, you made it sound like it was three per tribe, I wish haha

[@worstatgame]

If we can do it at least once a week it's fine but once per patch is insane

[@blaze8308]

Once every 4 patch you mean. 😂 Different pieces have different Elixir requirement and Goblet has the maximum amount of elixir requirement which is 4.

[@Ranamon9132]

Once a week? LOL! Then never farm for artifacts again, then no one will log in much ever again. One full goblet per patch or two sure, once a week? Bruh dont be naive.

[@fedesotilpazzo91]

@@blaze8308 again its 7 . 3 rings 1 bp 1 archon 2 tablet

[@LathosTheUnseenOne]

@@Ranamon9132 ahh yes because we only use one character and its guaranteed to always roll crit dmg

[@Ranamon9132]

@@LathosTheUnseenOne another naive child. Go create your own game with that kinda system silly and let’s see how the player retention would be like.

[@mustsnip537]

With this amount of restrictions....honestly we should be able to choose all 4 substats. Why not anyway? It's one artifact every couple months. It's not going to change much.

[@suzunome47]

Still a good system though compared to Star Rail where you can't choose a single substat at all.

[@Diency.]

​​@@suzunome47 Well, kinda pointless to say that bc getting good builds in star rail is infinitely easier than in genshin

[@suzunome47]

@@Diency. I don't think we're playing the same game then. A lot of things in HSR are better than Genshin but the artifact system is not one of them. HSR characters need two sets (relics and planars) so you need to farm two different domains. Off-pieces are also not allowed. Lastly, the strongbox in HSR requires 10 pieces to produce one piece as opposed to Genshin's 3.

[@eddieray]

@@suzunome47 In star rail you can decide which piece you get. In Genshin you have to keep rolling and rolling and rolling and wasting shit load of artifacts in hopes of getting a Circlet. I tried so hard, spent more than 100 artifacts and didn't get a single crimson witch circlet for my Diluc. Kept getting flowers and feathers and goblets. It was so bad I just gave up building him.

[@Khanxay]

@@eddieray HSR's relic system is basically better for casuals but worse for dedicated players that would hyperinvest characters. It's easier to get bare-min relics in HSR but relics good enough for 36ing MoC and the like are much harder to get than in Genshin. Relics being split into 4 and 2 means your stamina is split whereas you can camp a single domain in Genshin for most characters. Also, the 10:1 salvage/craft ratio in HSR is just straight up worse than Genshin's 3:1.

[@regex2660]

It's a monkey's paw kinda thing with Hoyo. They call it a QoL when it's really more of a sidegrade at most. The artifact "loadout" back then is another example. Seriously, it's like they know what the players want and then twist it into the worst possible version they can think of.

[@StephonZeno]

Or just put it into there other games...

[@starsz13]

they're the worst gacha company by far, i don't even know why people still bother trusting their miserable ass

[@overlordshiina]

Kinda makes you wonder if that's why Alloy was added to the game in such way despite being the first collab character of the game. They heard Sony ask them to add Alloy in the game and they did it in the worst way possible

[@Hhhh22222-w]

​@@StephonZeno different dev teams, the genshin one is under a very greedy management

[@tophatdoctor7855]

Being able to make only 1 elixir per patch would only make sense if you could actually guarantee a good artifact. This doesn’t even guarantee a 4 substat piece, let alone let you choose every substat. As is this gets you a good chance for a decent artifact every couple of patches, which just doesn’t seem very worth the effort. You have to use so many resources, so much time and go through so much exploration, they should have let us choose all 4 substats.

[@Cal_Night]

I definitely think that the sanctifying elixir should be saved and used as a "last resort" for whenever you need a specific piece. otherwise you're gonna get disappointed like what happened here. An elemental dmg goblet on set with double crit is so rare to get so most of the time thats what you want to go for

[@MrFlip2247]

people are downplaying how useful it is simply to have an onset goblet with relevant stats at a baseline. you get to choose your off piece which always results in a better build

[@igorkonforovich3497]

Yeah, to get 14-20CV double crit lvl 20 Goblet, very cool. Last resort for nothing. And in Genshin you don't need to have 5 on set pieces so it's even more useless.

[@yanncabello6268]

Whether as a last resort or out of laziness, this gadget is perverse: it requires time and resources for a result identical to the one we already know. My Hydro cup for mualani from this sh*it : CD CR EM and Atk% full proc atk% of course. Last resort ? keep your time and resources for a better use.

[@MegahNevel]

either goblet with elemental DMG or any piece with mainstat EM anything else seem like a waste

[@alis_the_kiwi]

I crafted an artifact with crit rate and crit damage. It all rolled into defense 💀

[@youngwang5546]

Not going to lie, this video was exhausting to watch and felt overwhelming. So many hours of exploration for so little rewards.

[@ishansharma2463]

I mean the reward was not the final artifact. It was the exploration and the quests. I'm sure he must have gotten upwards of 2000 primos just from exploring so much. I just hoped he would have explored with a more relaxed goal in mind, cause exploring like this can become frustrating

[@linaquiet4606]

That's Genshin for ya, the "f2p" game where you pay with your lifetime.

[@youngwang5546]

@@linaquiet4606 yep I just play when I feel like it now, I used to 100% everything and burned out a long time ago. Never even got all the oculus in sumeru lol.

[@california_wang8078]

its opposite for me actually, i dont usually go out for chest until i got my finder, and seeing so many chest being opened is kinda nice

[@christoussaint8689]

no way bro jinxed himself like😭😭😭😭 the SECOND he said "watch it roll def% def" i was like "NO MOGA DONT SAY THAT DONT"

[@beverlyrussell8034]

Me, too, and I wasn't surprised at all that it manifested just what he said!

[@TrustNo0ne666]

considering the statistics on substats prevalence (70-80% chance to roll in subpar stats if i recall correctly) it's not that surprising unfortunately

[@Krookzior]

you're coping if you think needing more than 1 elixir for any of the pieces isn't immediantly bad. this item is a waste of time and only useful if you've already dumped a metric shit ton of resin, and even then substats can still fuck you over. calling this a band aid solution would be kind.

[@TrustNo0ne666]

calling it a band-aid is even a reach, more like a tourniquet, you're still bleeding but a little less 😔

[@matheusbianquincera3104]

The circlet is the big trap, only cups and sands are good choices since you get the main stat + the 2 diff crit subs and that at least makes 50/50 chance of upgrading in bad subs while the circlet is a 3/4 chance of going to waste (and flowers & feathers have fixed main stats that you will be swimming in after a few weeks of farming the artifact domain)

[@_mako]

crit isnt everything though. the piece moga rolled for example is a very good piece, it just had low rolls, which can happen in sands and goblets too.

[@matheusbianquincera3104]

@@_mako you are right about that but at 3 essences per circlet its just TOO expensive for its possible good roll values in my opinion. might as well hold on so next patch you can make an way more universal goblet that can be used on multiple characters (and are a nightmare to get an set) or save to craft 2 sands which can be min-maxed with less subs rng.

[@baron7562]

@@matheusbianquincera3104 it depends. For My Yelan build for example, I had 3 very good Hydro dmg Goblet(I've generally been very lucky with goblets, idk why). But I didnt have an on set CD circlet with reasonable CR rolls + another useful attribute like HP or ER. Well guess what, this feature got me exactly what I wanted. Only sad part is that it rolled into def once but I guess its better than all rolls going into def lmao xD

[@matheusbianquincera3104]

@@baron7562 my goblets are also quite good, the one i crafted for mualani got 3 roll on CD, 1 HP% and the 4th sub was EM. but my sand pieces luck in non-existent i'm still looking for a good ER piece & atk% piece from emblem to this day

[@JahaviMangrubet]

i think the chances of rolling crit is lower tho

[@ardaozoner]

At least they should change it so we start with 4 sub stats

[@redfrog4547]

Do you want MHY to go BANKRUPT?! (/s)

[@brandonoteiza3159]

@@redfrog4547 i almost answer, but then i saw the /s

[@namiswann231]

why tf would they go bankrupt just bcs of artifacts....plus it can attract more player that's already retired from the game to play the game again....getting the fucking elixir per patch is so fucking stupid considering the roll can be shit asl...so why not hoyo do something better than actually would satisfy the players... we've been suffered enough just from the fucking stupid artifacts system​@@redfrog4547

[@mustardnbacon]

It's totally random but 4 lines are there. Rolled a 4 line Hod sands this morning

[@redfrog4547]

@@mustardnbacon I think they mean guaranteed 4 lines. Makes sense to me. Let me get 5 rolls into flat def instead of 4 that way.

[@ConquestGoddess]

I literally saw someone make an artifact, and the other two stats were def percent and flat def and it only rolled into those two - told me all I needed to know about this feature

[@hellfire6714]

Yeah and I saw a 50 cv one. So whats up?

[@razrafz]

@@hellfire6714 a 50cv one is probably 1 in 100,000. 95% of the players are only going to get the shitty 0-2 rolls on any of the crit stat

[@hellfire6714]

@@razrafz Nope. Most players are going to get 25-30. Which is excellent. Go and get one of those real quick while farming. But hey putting in scam on the thumbnail gets views I guess?

[@razrafz]

@@hellfire6714 just because it happens to u doesnt mean everyone else is as lucky

[@hellfire6714]

@@razrafz or unlucky

[@Seiterno]

i will always appreciate something that forces moga to open chests

[@FoundaPeanut]

I sent Hoyo a review via in game reporting, I told them to remove this from my inventory because it takes too long to get the elixirs, and it is worthless. I would rather not have this thing in my inventory instead of it telling me every single day that I login to craft an item.

[@dhairyasonpal5450]

I Got a total of 6 Sanctifing Elixir till now, 3 from exploration 2 from Pyro sigil deposit 1 from artifact sacrificing We will get 1 more in mail soon too

[@JyGproductions]

I also got 1 from the paid BP.

[@AscenderGrey66]

We get from mail whennn

[@JyGproductions]

@AscenderGrey66 official anniversary date is 28 September. Somewhere around that date.

[@mrmaquina7104]

After 2000 resin wasted on Arlecchino i tried the Artifact Transmuter to get a good goblet, only for it to not proc on crit rate or crit dmg a SINGLE TIME, but hey, i guess i have 23% more hp now...

[@megadeltsmarcy]

as soon as i logged on and saw how often i'd be able to use this thing, i immediately just pretended like it didn't exist. it's so useless 💀💀

[@mozzy2968]

Biggest value in this is that you can get an on set piece on brand new domains which will make building new characters a lot easier if you save the elixer for it.

[@hitsurei]

This is the single item in the game that gives you the most false hope. I tried on 3 accounts, and as expected the dual crit sub stat still a heavy gacha mechanic like normal, which means you can get better artifact by farming anyways. Not only that you have to wait a long time for the elixirs, but the payoff is worse than doing character gacha. The game just adds layers of salt with this item. But if you manage to pull the custom artifact with a decent sub stat upgrade, then good on you. For me it isn't worth the time to wait.

[@UXBen]

Employee: "Wow, there's a lot of competition in our genre these days. How will we compete?" Bossman: "Remain the stingiest. It's the only way." Employee: "But won't that turn away new..." Bossman: "HOLD THE LINE!!!"

[@elliQaz]

So far I made a hydro goblet for neuvi, and sands for mualani. Thankfully both of them rolled pretty well. I did so much to get those damned elixirs, and I can imagine how it feels if the artifact you spent so much time to farm for, just rolls into everything but crit. One elixir per patch is stupid, at least make it one per phase or something.

[@zephskiee5395]

I think they want more control and freedom over where to hand out elixir, 1 per patch from extraction vs literally 5 from exploration in 5.0 I think it's very clear where our main source of elixir will come from and I actually like it this way. Let dead patch be actually dead so I don't have to play the game.

[@hitsurei]

dang, some people are just lucky, my goblet for neuvilete went wrong. at lv 20 i got this : crit rate 6,2% crit dmg 7,8% hp 14% Em 60 😭

[@sarah-yr2db]

this video was rlly fun to watchhh, id love to see more exploration focused videos!! :D

[@linaquiet4606]

It's so funny to me how Genshin players use the phrase "is better than nothing" so often 🤣

[@MikeRKO316]

For the amount of effort required, the limitation on how many elixers you can get and how many you can use per patch, and the risk of getting 2 crap substats that everything rolls into anyway.... this is an absolute dogshit scam. Hoyo trying to act generous as they pull up in the white van that says "CANDY" on the outside.

[@i.ato6942]

They should atleast make it so that the created artifact will always have 4sub stats. Getting a 3 liner after so long and watching it roll into flat def is just stupid

[@siliconhawk]

"this is going to be a quick video" - famous last words

[@newbie2240]

This thing is soo precious you'll never ever gonna use it at just processed to farm artifacts anyways..

[@kingInci727]

Genshin knew how to ruin anything

[@kasunije]

crafting sands has infinitely more value than crafting goblets since you're almost always going to offpiece a goblet

[@mozzy2968]

The value of an on set goblet is that even if it rolls bad, you can use an insane off piece circlet or sands to balance it out.

[@vijaysinghr988]

​@@mozzy2968 most of the good elemental or hp goblet i have are from different sets so i think sands is a better investment

[@kasunije]

@@mozzy2968 i would agree on crafting goblets if you really love the character you're crafting for, or if you're crafting something like thundering fury electro dmg, but crafting sands just has so much more value unless you genuinely just don't have an element dmg goblet for a specific element

[@hruaiaralte1828]

it really depends on need if you are vertically investing then getting on set goblet is really good since you can have a off piece on other artifact but its between 3 sand vs 1 sand and 1 goblet. And it depends on what your character lack and that usually is a goblet

[@hruaiaralte1828]

also i must add double crit goblet is just rare af so interms of resin efficiency (pure probability) done by some youtuber goblet have much more value than sand

[@yanncabello6268]

Hoyo has succeeded in creating something that costs a lot of time and resources for a result that doesn't change: substats proc 9 times out of 10 in the wrong way. This gadget is not only useless, it's perverse.

[@KratosAurionPlays]

15:44 This was the biggest thing I was curious about with these things. Do the stats roll into only what you picked for sub stats or everything like a normal artifact? It seems to be everything and thus I definitely agree with everyone who calls this a scam. Very sad with how rare sanctifying elixir is that it doesn't just raise up the two sub stats only.

[@LordMord98]

The artifact not having a guaranteed 4 stats at +0 is just insane.

[@GtubeYT]

Yayayy moga ur vids make my day better b4 exam

[@alexandrachernysh7]

Thank you for the video, I always have some random items in my inventory, without knowing where they're supposed to go. You helped me find so many things that I missed I will probably sleep on my Sanctifying Elixirs, and not use them unless absolutely need to

[@Daivd1111]

15:13 what a prediction!

[@riotangel4701]

If you want to optimise sanctifying potion efficiency for leveling trash artifacts for the transmuter, generate just three 3-star unctions at a time. The 4-star to 3-star difference is 4:1 so two 4-star essences equates eight 3-star unctions. It takes _seven_ 3-star unctions to get a 5-star artifact to level 4, so two 4-star essences is wasted experience. One can play around this by maintaining a 1:3 ratio for 4-star vs 3-star but it's just more flexible to deal with 3-stars.

[@srscandalous]

I feel like they come up with adequate mechanics, hype everyone and then YOINK, it's a stingy "once per patch" mechanic, getting the essence bottles is impossible, same for the envision keys on the theatrics thing. Like... the fact that they perfectly know that players will always be hooked in hopes of getting better stuff that actually work, is insane. Very evil if you ask me, but yet again, what else could we expect from THEM -.-

[@grooz5463]

After playing the game from the start till now, I've come to the conclusion that DEF and HP rolls have a higher chance, except for when you actually want HP or DEF for a character, then the roll odds change to higher ATK rolls.

[@xellossm8444]

Problem is can still get flat Def and it could roll into it for 3-4 times by the time you level it up. Also, I find the last two substats seemed to get rolled stat up than either of the first two. Until there's a way to alter rolled substat, it's still a flawed system.

[@Howema]

i am terrified to even use them, i assume the best use case is for Elemental Mastery main stat characters like Nahida or a Bloom/Hyperbloom trigger character as a EM goblet is something like a 2.5% drop chance and circlet being 4% so you just use whatever one you can find, that alone would make a crafted EM main stat piece instantly high value as you could also dictate two substats as a bonus.

[@hmmmmmmmmmm_]

9:04 Yoo the last fight is so stupid, imagine wasting your time to complete the world quest, just to get gatekept because you are not a whale LoL

[@taylorallen6206]

I like exploration, so getting 6 elixirs was easy (without battle pass). I love Hutao and Yelan and I needed new masks for both of them (as they need HP, but we're using ATK substats lol). And so I got them Crit main stat with Crit and HP substats and the rolls were still upgrades overall. In conclusion, I think this is great for upgrading from older pieces on older sets for characters. But maybe not so much creating a NEW piece on a new set (if you're farming the new sets) for a character. But depends on your mindset going into it and the RNG gods lol

[@zeekjones1]

This items' elixir is really just a replacement to crowns for events, since the lowered the rarity of crowns. _1 per patch, a few in world, and a few from events._

[@praskova29]

It's more for if you really need a specific main stat and don't mind it being just usable

[@Soba-l6h]

this was lowkey so chill you should do more exploration its really fun ofcourse if you want to you don't have to do exploration its on you!

[@X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X]

I got EXTREMELY lucky myself, got a Goblet for Arlecchino with 26.8 Crit Dmg, 13.7 Crit Rate, 11.4 Atk%, and 5.8 ER.

[@Varion-mk4si]

Impossible

[@HUTAOUO]

Oh hsr

[@HUTAOUO]

I got wind bonus max critical damage rolls

[@bonniemoon6790]

They really shpuld have implemented a system where every so many runs you can put in the artifact and ALL subs you want. Even 25, 50 or 100 runs wouldnt even be as bad as the transmuter, because even a perfect artifact can roll into less than ideal but still good artifacts (say crit dmg instead of crit rate) instead of this bologna elixers that give you an artifact and roll all into def.

[@SleepyKurisu]

The only way to prove it's a scam will be the future Because the fact it takes so many for one artifact combined with the fact that you aren't guaranteed 4 starting sub stats after creating it is just already pretty bad But then we don't have any info on if there'll be 3 you can get for free every time there's a new area is so risky because right now you either sacrifice artifacts, buy one, or get one through a big event being the only consistent way to obtain them is just so slow and pretty bad

[@DanielCastillo-df1dd]

devs should change it to 4 substats instead of 2. I made 2 artifacts with crit rate/dmg substats and both of them have 2 defense substats and I leveled it up to lvl 20 just to receive all increase in defenses lmao

[@frankfernandez2690]

Okay so hear me out, it's been a few weeks since the version came out and with in game reward (you get some in the natlan tribe treasure caves) i got another from the monthly pass and got one from mihoyo game mail, i crafter 3 different articacts, 1 flower, 1 feather, 1 circlet, i selected crit sub stats on all 3 and when rolling they had at least 3 of the 5 sub rolls into the crit stats, all 3 artifacts ended up being an upgrade to pieces I was using, what cought my eye is that the rolls i got on the minor affixes were all max possible rolls, it's worth using buy will take a long time to build a full character since u can only do 1 artifact type per cycle

[@geebaleeba6861]

what’s hilarious is i used this gadget for the first time, it rolled awful ofc, then i fed THAT into a brand new 49cv artifact. scammed then redemption

[@VecrozaDenziba]

i spent 3 bottle only for one artifact (circlet), aim for crit dmg main stats, and sub stats crit rate and atk. After i leveled it up to 20. all of them rolled to hp. its basically 50% / 50% if i want to get atleast rolled to atk or crit rate (50%) instead of random artifacts (50%), and 25% / 75% if i want to rolled only to crit rate sub stats (25%).

[@matiasnano1496]

They should have made it like HSR or ZZZ where its pretty common to get them but you can only choose the main stat

[@corn738]

0:55 JEAN VV SANDS

[@WallyT_]

Moga unintentionally going down a quest spiral is too good

[@ashishbaidya515]

You see the sheer amount of artifacts this thing eats to use means I will probably just get the piece while farming for artifacts to create the sanctifying elixir.

[@hugedeal8611]

its getting hard to just be cool with the lack of quality of life in Genshin when Starrail and WuWa exsist

[@cesarignjas]

As per now, there are total of 6 elixirs available to a F2p player, enough for a goblet with 2 to spare, considering we get 2 every time they release more levels of the monument there to improve (for this version the limit is 20, probably next limit will be 40) and more 3 for the next upcoming tribes rewards for opening chests and the next conversion , is safe to say we will have another 6 upcoming elixirs for sure, so for people actively playing the game I don't think there will be shortage of this material, it will all comes down to time, I believe it will be pretty much like the crowns they hand out for talents, it will be limited but within reach of everyone that is active in the game.

[@hellfire6714]

Thank you for summing this up for the losers who dont actually play the game but isntead only come in to renew their welkin, do artfiact domain 5x and then go complain on forums they dont get 50 cv artifacts every week for free

[@mikan1727]

Does it helps? Yes it sure does. Does it matter? Absolutely not. Considering the massive work you have to put into to get Elixers and the artifact can still turn to garbage while leveling up, it’s simply not worth it at all. Also, I’ve been playing it since patch 1.3 and the amount of good artifacts accumulated just make further artifacts farming not necessary anymore.

[@erltonjames]

I was having a bad day, but that ending saved me.

[@Taraak]

I thought it would be ground breaking but it was a scam 😂

[@KuroLionheart]

I used it twice, once to make a goblet for my Alhaitham and a sands for my Navia and both rolled over 35 CV. So yeah, I wouldn't say its a scam but considering there's still a layer of RNG involved because of rolls I feel like they're a little too stingy about it.

[@Flowers4Fischl]

Like I can just randomly get a couple of 40cv goblets normally through strongboxing and farming you just got lucky 🍀 with the thing doesn’t mean it’s not a scam.

[@MyPj25]

Congrats good for u happy for u it’s a scam

[@ihsakat7837]

i did emblem hydro goblet for my yelan, started off with 4 substat (cr cd er def), rolled cd once, er once and def 3 times, fucking fantastic

[@babiterbang9679]

Simple bro, people won't blame their own luck. They will keep saying it's a scam.

[@_mako]

"its not a scam because it didnt scam me"

[@andipratama2186]

the thing is, if they lock the gadget trough natlan quest, people first impression will be clear that we can only fully use it when we reach natlan and actually explore them. but since they 'immediately' get it, then it looks shitier cuz you actually only able to create one, and the other way to get it is through paid battle pass.

[@TheMouseHouse162-gnw]

Finally I get to watch someone truly feel the pain of having to collect the obsidian rings (I’m pretty sure the last chest I could have gone to gave me the last one I needed)

[@-Drain]

Might as well put "Hoyo" as the definition of "greed" and "stingy" in the dictionary at this point.

[@philledzone]

I sure love getting myself a good goblet every TWO patches

[@aeowinh]

This patch is around 10 f2p elixirs you can get including the one we will get from mail. Honestly the best use of this is after you get 3 good pieces in a set and crafting the 4th slot you don't have a good off piece for. It will make farming for a good set a lot faster like many weeks worth of farming, even months. So this patch depending on what you will craft can be 2 Goblets, 5 Sands, 3 Circlets or 10 flowers/plumes. At the end of the day the systems work for what is intended in making easier to get a full set going, 90% of the time almost is expended for the last piece that is very rare to get with desired substats. Also we have to wait what Hoyo decided in future patches, outside of the BP and the salvage for 1 Elixir we don't know how often or how many elixirs they will give us each patch.

[@lrose5522]

Around 10 is really generous for "7"

[@bacongl]

Bro I find god artifacts all the time. Then I roll on them and they always go into the worst stat on it. I hate the RNG.

[@CaTiNtHeHaTaaaa]

I also named my saurian companion bean 😅 I find this new artifact crafting system to be more of a back up, let's say you farmed a certain artifact set and you're missing one piece to complete the 4 piece set, this system will definitely come in clutch, RNG is still the name of the game but at least you won't have to spend countless amount of resin and still get nothing

[@anandharamananandh547]

The fragments are available just in 9 specific precious chests in Natlan. The ancestral temple area has 3 different fragments. There's one near the volcanic area in the children of echoes and so on. There are guides already so just go and get them.

[@nbruns10]

Yeah my double crit pyro goblet rolled into all flat def and hp, such a useful new gadget...

[@jlester163]

Made a flower Crimson witch Picked crit rate and damage 3rd stat was atk% Lvl up 4th stat is hp% Biggest upgrade hutao had in 3 years 🎉 Lvl 8 and 12 went to crit dmg Lvl 16 and 20 went to hp% 3.1% crit rate 14% crit damage 10.5 atk% 16.9% hp Idk for you if its mid or not but the previous i had was all def flar and def% so this is a HUGE upgrade for me 😂

[@ollyaustine707]

It's mid because the attack isn't as valuable as em

[@jlester163]

@@ollyaustine707 already have 100 em from other pieces and extra em if i ever use yelan with elegy so im good in that department

[@_mako]

@@jlester163 no, more EM would lead to more damage than atk% on hu tao even if you have a lot of it. and 250 isnt reaching "a lot of it" levels

[@cheeessyy9498]

do u even play the game?

[@saragrace202]

Y’all are so mean and for what? Just let them be happy

[@AbominableDr.Phibes]

I rarely farm artifacts so I can't sacrifice any that I have I did make one goblet for Wriothesley, which rolled almost identically to his previous goblet. Now he has 35 EM instead of 17 on the goblet. Wow.

[@mini-mei]

For the amount of resources that you have to put into getting just one elixir and the long cooldown, and still having to endure the bad rolling RNG, it is a scam. The ability to just transform garbage artifacts into EXP is great though. The creation via the elixir I'm only going to do with found and BP elixirs. I thought you'd get the option of remodeling an existing artifact when they announced it, that would have been way better and that would justify the high costs and cooldown of creating elixirs.

[@bluegate4630]

there are 3 ring you can get some chests in the world give you a fragment every 3 fragments make one ring so in total there are 9 fragments and 3 rings every ring opens a secret door in natlan there are 3 of those doors behind those doors there are like 5-10 holden artfiacts (can't remember) and 1 elixer so you can get 3 elixers just by exploring the entirity of natlan

[@glory_m99]

We have up to 8 elixirs in 5.0 if you're F2P from the map, salvage, tablet of tona and some quests

[@agentbluegaming7709]

Not sure on the specifics. But i remember watching a video when natlan came out (some sort of guide) and they randomly picked some flowers during the video, gave them some elixir (i think like 3, 1 per flower?) so not sure what was going on there, though people seemed to have thought that you can get them just from exploring various ways. Natlan is still new so hopefully there will be more proper guides and info in the future.

[@KitaniRairakku]

While I do think it's a very underwhelming system upon first release, so long as they made sure you can actually get at least 3-4 per patch (not including BP) I think it's something that will get better over time as players can build up more of a stockpile. It's not going to replace hours of farming, it's there as a consolation after you've spent hours farming and getting nothing. I do think one niche use though is that if you're sure you're going off-piece for the goblet, and just seriously don't have any good options (I've been playing 3 years and still lack good goblets for a lot of elements), you can craft a goblet in a set you otherwise never use, so you can still craft an on-piece circlet or sands for the set you actually need. But even that only assumes if you're using if after you've stockpiled enough that you can drop 4 with no worries.

[@mustardnbacon]

Did this on 3 side accounts and did hit a 4 line sands that rolled 6/22 and a huge def percent. 4 lines do come if anyone was wondering

[@Fellow1999]

Good goblets with specific set are hardest to get! Till now I don’t have good electric dmg goblet for shogun

[@RareAngelz]

Its interesting because most sanctifying elixirs might come from exploration. I'm curious to see if it ends up that you can get at least 1 goblet per patch just by exploration.

[@Saad-zx2me]

I finally got an on set hydro damage goblet for Nuevillette after so long , he's finally 3% (35cv )😎

[@DJMoneycat]

I wanted the transmuter to work like the normal hoyo crafters where you pick the main stat but each cost 1 and you get a few per patch 😭

[@jasonniu7386]

I think sands I probably most worth it. Circlet inherently doesn't have double crit on subs and goblet can just be off piece. Sands are pretty hard to get and are cheap to craft. Either way, best course of action is probably just to farm the set and then decide your worst piece.

[@ddiatta24]

You spoke those 2 DEF stats into existence.

[@KrrDemii]

Dont make fun of my multi billionaire company!!! 😔

[@froots2729]

They had one of their employees fake cry on stream!! Now we have to be emphatic to them!! 😶‍🌫️

[@Morkins324]

Yes, it is slow to save up over multiple patches. Yes, there is no guarantee that it will roll well. However, compared to the amount of time that it would take to get an on-element, on-set Double Crit goblet... Yeah, I can wait 4 months to get enough elixirs as opposed to grinding a single Domain every day for 2 years. Also, the Elixirs could EASILY show up as Event rewards and Exploration rewards, in addition to the Battle Pass one and the one you get from extracting trash artifacts. So, getting 3-4 per patch doesn't even seem particularly unlikely.

[@sicklyfly6907]

Tbh the 2nd part seems cope, bcz it's genshin we dealing with, I was so hopeful for this artifact thing but my god it's so ass 😢

[@Morkins324]

@@sicklyfly6907 Granted, it isn't "F2P", but we will at least be getting 2 per patch from Extracting and Battle Pass. And I think it is extremely likely that it is an Event Reward for at least 1 event per patch (whatever the main Event is in that patch, similar to how HSR gives Self-Modeling Resin). That is 3 per patch. Will there be a 4th per patch? Almost certainly for the near future. But 5.0 has a total of 8 available (1 from Extraction, 1 from Anniversary Rewards, 2 from Sigil Offering Level 10 & Level 20, 3 from the Obsidian Rings, and 1 from Battle Pass). The pattern currently appears that they are going to be available every 10 levels of the Sigil Offering in Natlan, so that will be 3 up to level 50. Plus, the additional Tribes are likely to have Obsidian Rings of their own, which will likely provide more.

[@crypticcryptid4702]

I think the main events will hand them out hoping for more would be cope. On set double crit is only worth it if your off set options are trash, otherwise sands would probably be better.

[@HarrysDogmalaysia]

0:14 somehow you manage to trigger my google assistant

[@hbgamer1352]

Same 😂

[@usagimoon3885]

Only being able to extract a level 4 artifact seems like such a waste I’d rather use to to upgrade a different piece

[@joshua117ify]

scam? meh. not well made? yes!

[@shafee5232]

today i made a circlet for my arlecchino with crit rate as main and atk% and crit dmg as minor substats, the other substat turned out to be flat hp. then leveled it up to 4, def was added, then the next 2 rolls went to def. finally made a circlet with 24% crit dmg :( i think they should raise the amount of elixers we can get each patch

[@revylee4541]

Late to the party, but if you lower your expectations a bit, this thing is far away from Scam. There are 3 elixiers in the new areas, 2 in the sigil-system and one during the cycle. We get another one for anniversary. That makes 7 in this patch. Also I expect one every 10 levels for the pyro sigils since the first two were at level 10 and 20. I created a feather for my Navia and a Sands for Mualani. Both turned out decent. And I have 3 elixiers left now. Also I was lucky and had one double-crit artifact in every cave. Which gave me an incredible feather for Mualani and a decent flower (plus a good def% for Kachina). Goblet is off piece and Headpiece is pretty bad but for the crit stat, its fine. I got a top 8 Mualani in less than 2 weeks according to Akasha. Never was done farming for a character this fast. But here is just a thought: I would never use the elixier for the goblet, since its way too expensive. Same for the crown, but mor because you basically only need one fix substat for that (the opposite crit-stat) and it feels reaaaally wasted this way. For the goblet you can always go off-piece. This is something ppl seem to forget. Genshin has the luxury of an off piece artifact, which other games do not have (HSR).

[@1Henrink]

Something that I am interested in finding out is if it is worth to make the elixir with the artifacts at all. Since the price is so high, I have heard that using that Exp to roll more artifacts it's better.

[@Truck-kun11]

I'll probably save my Elixirs for when I'm REALLY getting screwed by a Domain since I usually have decent luck farming Artifacts and I'm not obsessed with perfect stats.

[@thegodofquacc5432]

Appolo The gift of prophecy Moga with double def

[@imdani4997]

I was planning on using it to craft a goblet for mualani but what you said does make sense hmm