Trying to Dirty Flag a Computer Cheater

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Eric Rosen

Eric Rosen

3 жыл бұрын

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In this video, I play a 10-minute chess game in the lichess.org's Hourly Rapid Arena. After a strange opening, my opponent played flawlessly and it became clear from post-game analysis that nearly every move matched Stockfish's top choice. However, I tried to fight and use the clock as a weapon.
Analyze the game here: lichess.org/98VJ3UB8qVK6
Shortly after this game, I received a rating refund and my opponent's account has since been closed.
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@phrophetsamgames
@phrophetsamgames 3 жыл бұрын
"I like the fact my opponent's thinking" Stockfish: yeah let me get to depth 30.
@gsk_chess2666
@gsk_chess2666 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@fishermanz
@fishermanz 3 жыл бұрын
@@gsk_chess2666 a
@calebvr3526
@calebvr3526 3 жыл бұрын
@@fishermanz b
@hellooo12
@hellooo12 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebvr3526 c
@alanjrubin2012
@alanjrubin2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@gsk_chess2666 d
@sanjeevkhurana6628
@sanjeevkhurana6628 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine using engine and still not winning.
@Soer8808
@Soer8808 3 жыл бұрын
It almost won. Eric is a beast however
@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin
@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin 3 жыл бұрын
They obviously aren't using the best moves, they don't want to get banned in a single game.
@brandonovich6063
@brandonovich6063 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin that's what's so strange about it, they cheat but they can't fully cheat or they get banned, what's even the point? Why not just spent that time on ANYTHING else
@petergriffin6223
@petergriffin6223 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonovich6063 Its fun
@brandonovich6063
@brandonovich6063 3 жыл бұрын
@@petergriffin6223 how? You're not doing anything
@JohnHazl
@JohnHazl 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching chess videos when I already know the opponent is cheating: "Oh yeah this person is definitely cheating look at them"
@xxcattoxx544
@xxcattoxx544 3 жыл бұрын
They're playing it wrong he didnt say uno like what everyone did know he is cheating
@sealion-5372
@sealion-5372 3 жыл бұрын
I know how to read too
@boromijn9489
@boromijn9489 3 жыл бұрын
Eric: thinking several moves ahead and planning well in advance luisbasurto: "I do as the engine guides"
@jareldg.stream1742
@jareldg.stream1742 3 жыл бұрын
not sure if that's a rick and morty reference or not
@dombloid
@dombloid 3 жыл бұрын
@@jareldg.stream1742 it is
@JimmyBoosterCrate
@JimmyBoosterCrate 3 жыл бұрын
@@jareldg.stream1742 It always is. It gets referenced everywhere on the Internet for some reason.
@AcesHight
@AcesHight 3 жыл бұрын
Technology is becoming more and more dangerous, the big tech companies are a danger.
@voidlight0472
@voidlight0472 3 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyBoosterCrate because it is a good show
@jonathandoeter351
@jonathandoeter351 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's not a "dirty" flag if you're playing against a cheater...
@MalcolmBlk
@MalcolmBlk 3 жыл бұрын
Was about to comment the same
@ngc5195
@ngc5195 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s pretty much the only way to win
@brianjacob8728
@brianjacob8728 3 жыл бұрын
@@ngc5195 he drew. He didn't have material to win.
@ejflor1313
@ejflor1313 3 жыл бұрын
I kept reading it as “Trying to flag a dirty computer cheater.” Just move the word “dirty”.
@timothylee2772
@timothylee2772 3 жыл бұрын
Just because you're losing to a lower rated opponent doesn't necessarily assume that that opponent is cheating.
@crucifiedthief
@crucifiedthief 3 жыл бұрын
online chess tip: If you imagine your screen an Eric Rosen video, and imagine hearing his commentary on thoughts and moves while you’re playing, it improves your game.
@noonetoremember1594
@noonetoremember1594 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually what I do, funny enough
@sasugage2168
@sasugage2168 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it actually helps funnily enough
@erickb.4240
@erickb.4240 3 жыл бұрын
For real, I either do his voice or agadmator's
@janet3782
@janet3782 3 жыл бұрын
Haha good idea
@JBTYpr
@JBTYpr 3 жыл бұрын
Me using this advice: so this takes takes takes takes takes takes....
@Aaron-ec8uc
@Aaron-ec8uc 3 жыл бұрын
When I cheat I use Martin (250) so that it's not obvious.
@courageouscuber9278
@courageouscuber9278 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@user-dh8oi2mk4f
@user-dh8oi2mk4f 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dducksquad have you or your friend gotten any better.
@ripmeep
@ripmeep 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-dh8oi2mk4f Dude it's been like 2 days lol
@user-dh8oi2mk4f
@user-dh8oi2mk4f 2 жыл бұрын
@@ripmeep Dude, he said it was a year ago....
@ripmeep
@ripmeep 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-dh8oi2mk4f mb my guy. missed that part carry on as usual soldier
@tajneeley
@tajneeley 3 жыл бұрын
I played a cheater , he was a new Player playing so perfectly in rapid on lichess, I went to do a computer analysis and as soon as it finished a red “!” Appeared next to his name . He was cheating .
@viniciuslongo4622
@viniciuslongo4622 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@starboiklem8381
@starboiklem8381 3 жыл бұрын
@Fem Chick lol but you won't get better at chess by doing that so why not play normally?
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 3 жыл бұрын
@Fem Chick Wow, don't you feel ashamed?
@SpaceSanctum
@SpaceSanctum 3 жыл бұрын
@Fem Chick cheater
@cvndrmr
@cvndrmr 3 жыл бұрын
@Fem Chick ew, you shouldn't play with others then.
@augustocastellanos2948
@augustocastellanos2948 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being an actual grandmaster starting from scratch on a chess platform and getting banned for playing too good
@M.H_B
@M.H_B 3 жыл бұрын
Even so, there are some moves that are very human-like/computer-like that's why that problem never happens.
@wanderingghost6841
@wanderingghost6841 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, this one is definitely using stockfish , the time it takes for him to move in the start and the end has a major shift in attitude , most likely is he tried to look “human” in the first few minutes but then completely threw it of the board when his time is closing in. Second is the opening , he has a questionable (try to france) opening, then had a inhuman move with the rook , to prevent repetition.
@KevinLuWX
@KevinLuWX 3 жыл бұрын
Grandmasters don't take at 10 seconds for every move. Some of them are obvious and should take less than 1 second. This guy is obviously using engine because he's taking 10 seconds even with the obvious moves and he didn't know how to finish off at time scramble.
@teaser452
@teaser452 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingghost6841 I found the time when they were trading queens very suspicious.
@xXOniJahXx
@xXOniJahXx 3 жыл бұрын
A GM is a GM all game long. Not missing obvious moves when on clock pressure and finding godly moves when he has the time to use engines
@craigchin
@craigchin 3 жыл бұрын
“I know what I’ll do today, set up an account for a game I can’t play and cheat so I always win!” .. what a waste of time, Id rather watch paint dry.
@colins1358
@colins1358 3 жыл бұрын
actually to be technical it could actually help a real chess player to see how to beat a master. in no way am I condoning cheating at all. but look at all sides to why something is done and maybe you can learn from POS people. when someone cheats I try to think of it as a free stockfish training session. in today's world. soon we will only be playing against bots. and POS people. truth is a dying race.
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely, this cheater did know how to play the game, he just wasn't able to play particulary well, so that made him angry.
@colins1358
@colins1358 3 жыл бұрын
@@legrandliseurtri7495 this whole cheating bs has gotten out of hand. no more morals left.
@craigchin
@craigchin 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t assume this cheater will analyse the computers moves in order to learn how to be a better player during the game. They simply play the strongest move without thought with the aim to win. Post analysis of games you lose is sufficient for improving, not a tournament setting. If there was an argument to spin cheating into “technically” being morally sound, the cheater should still resign rather than go for mate. Fat chance of seeing that happen though.
@tajneeley
@tajneeley 3 жыл бұрын
C Chinnock agreed
@richardsleep2045
@richardsleep2045 3 жыл бұрын
"I could just play against Stockfish" and he won!
@emrearmagan5359
@emrearmagan5359 3 жыл бұрын
No he didnt
@emrearmagan5359
@emrearmagan5359 3 жыл бұрын
He drew the game he didnt win
@angrygingerboss
@angrygingerboss 3 жыл бұрын
It was a draw, one move from being check mated
@yesd2024
@yesd2024 3 жыл бұрын
Well he would have won anyways because cheating takes time so he could just flag and force a win
@davidandressen7356
@davidandressen7356 3 жыл бұрын
Also wasn't stockfish's highest level
@anon5041
@anon5041 3 жыл бұрын
5:07 Bb5+ Erick "oh that's a good move. oh wow, that's a really good move I have to take this seriously" lol
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 3 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed Eric even made it into the endgame with equal material. Like wow.
@hairballshampoo
@hairballshampoo 3 жыл бұрын
erics videos are so quiet and calm whenever theres an ad i get jumpscared
@geckogeico2212
@geckogeico2212 3 жыл бұрын
use uBlock Origin it works really well :)
@dajaco81
@dajaco81 3 жыл бұрын
@@geckogeico2212 ... I think not. That would give Eric no ad revenue for his content. knob
@mikebaker2436
@mikebaker2436 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, stupid Fabreeze. Terrifying. 🤣🙃
@megugu2155
@megugu2155 3 жыл бұрын
imagine cheating on chess like that would help you in anything. wont boost your ELO or even give you some skill for irl chess. The only thing youll get from cheating on chess is just emptiness from the realization that you wasted time moving pieces while improving nothing.
@friedayy
@friedayy 3 жыл бұрын
@Wim Harleev that's not an irony, stop trying to pull out an UNO reverse out of nowhere. The time taken to write a youtube comment is less than a minute
@kraber9817
@kraber9817 3 жыл бұрын
@Wim Harleev Also, you really had to insult religion in the same scentence? Damn. I’m pretty sure you essentially embody the youtube comment section toxicity.
@cooliguess9287
@cooliguess9287 3 жыл бұрын
@Wim Harleev imagine writing about wasting time IN A KZbin REPLY SECTION. Has humanity really gone this far down???
@stuffwithsoph8264
@stuffwithsoph8264 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and playing and figuring out each move is fun
@stuffwithsoph8264
@stuffwithsoph8264 3 жыл бұрын
@Wim Harleev You critcize somebody for wasting time commenting on a KZbin video but you're doing the exact same thing
@blakep1444
@blakep1444 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being an engine user and getting flagged in a 10 min game
@blakep1444
@blakep1444 3 жыл бұрын
@etrestre Nothing is weird about a 10 min game but somebody who is using an engine can successfully complete a game in 3 mins no problem..
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 3 жыл бұрын
@@blakep1444 probably not against an IM tho...
@sharathiitm
@sharathiitm 3 жыл бұрын
There's one more account named 'luisbasurtochess' banned 9months ago.. this guys a serial cheater ,😄
@SoDamnMetal
@SoDamnMetal 3 жыл бұрын
That accounts banned for violating the Lichess terms of service though, not engine use. So not necessarily the same guy
@sharathiitm
@sharathiitm 3 жыл бұрын
One hell of a coincidence if it isn't the same guy...check out his games though..his wins against players rated 200-300 above him lol!!
@SoDamnMetal
@SoDamnMetal 3 жыл бұрын
@@sharathiitm im 2100 and 1500's beat me every now and then so beating players 200-300 points higher isn't that impressive or rare
@jimskea224
@jimskea224 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoDamnMetal lichess has changed the wording they use for cheaters so as not to leave themselves open to litigation.
@notsmoothie
@notsmoothie 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoDamnMetal so what exactly can you violate in the TOS on a chess website lol 😂
@ublade82
@ublade82 3 жыл бұрын
Could be engine analysis AND anonymous GM. You were playing Hikarufish
@vela7447
@vela7447 3 жыл бұрын
Stockamura
@zruth920
@zruth920 3 жыл бұрын
Stockamurafish
@myqii2567
@myqii2567 3 жыл бұрын
Zruth killed it
@vit9480
@vit9480 3 жыл бұрын
Nakamura’s ceiling
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 3 жыл бұрын
He was playing Hikaru and Nakamura
@lucasemanuelgenova9179
@lucasemanuelgenova9179 2 жыл бұрын
4:04 love how the first thing Eric does after his opponent hang a pawn is to look the opponent's ratings
@maxwellmogadam399
@maxwellmogadam399 3 жыл бұрын
Opponent: *moves into a open file* Erric: "wow that was nifty move"
@renerpho
@renerpho 3 жыл бұрын
That's the fun thing about engine moves. They look both unnatural and completely logical, to the point of seeming obvious.
@danielwood1928
@danielwood1928 3 жыл бұрын
And it was in this position that Stockfish blundered the game.
@ahcryz2543
@ahcryz2543 3 жыл бұрын
He wasnt playing full go or he'd get banned. other than that, stockfish 11 ( 3800 elo ) Is unbeatable in even 10 games match.
@daddyofalltrades
@daddyofalltrades 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos on playing against computer cheaters. It's so great watching them crumble under time pressure. You're a legend, Eric.
@RemyWillard
@RemyWillard 3 жыл бұрын
His videos on trying to flag Stockfish are good practice for this kind of situation.
@B3Band
@B3Band 3 жыл бұрын
Followed along with Stockfish. That weird Na3 move and the e7 move at the end were the only ones played that weren't one of the top two Stockfish moves. You only played (I think) two or three that weren't top 2. His computer must be really shitty to need Stockfish to calculate for 10-20 seconds every time and end up flagging. My computer found the move he was going to play within 1-2 seconds.
@kenmendoza6932
@kenmendoza6932 3 жыл бұрын
Taking 10 seconds to move doesnt mean he has a shit computer. Engine usually analyzes moves for a certain amount of time before picking the top move regardless the position. Thats why time usage is constant.
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenmendoza6932 Engines can spit out great moves in fraction of a second, those moves are more than enough to beat any human. They would just lose against the same engine if it had more time per move. Engines analyze against themselves, they dont know anything about human play or what the players are actually doing or their ideas.
@jared4575
@jared4575 3 жыл бұрын
They might have been using an analysis game on another tab so switching between tabs and manually putting in moves may have made it slower
@renerpho
@renerpho 3 жыл бұрын
This may not have anything to do with either the computer or the engine. They may be knowing so little about chess that they don't know which moves are natural and which require thought, and so they try to keep the time consistent in an attempt to not raise suspicion. It has the exact opposite effect of what's intended, but that just reinforces the notion that they are stupid.
@chaptermastermoloc4171
@chaptermastermoloc4171 3 жыл бұрын
I'm average chess player and played this guy which was losing and I was up material. Then suddenly he started to play very accurate move and lost to him. I was never salty about it coz at least in my mind I thought, "hey this guy cheated to beat me in chess".
@WhiteBlackCoffee
@WhiteBlackCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily a cheater. I myself was on the both ends here: sometimes you get too cocky when up the material and can easily miss an opportunity window that your opponent can use for their advantage. P.S. I am just an amateur below 1500 lichess points in rapid, so this might not be correct in higher-rated games.
@Kreamations
@Kreamations 3 жыл бұрын
David Van Voorhis sometimes people say “this guy” when they mean they’re talking about a story. Like for example. “Like one time *this guy* showed up at my house” etc
@skepticmoderate5790
@skepticmoderate5790 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kreamations That's how I read it as well.
@Kreamations
@Kreamations 3 жыл бұрын
@@skepticmoderate5790 Yessir!
@affirmonego5202
@affirmonego5202 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kreamations i'm not a native speaker, so thanks for explaining this
@burchds84
@burchds84 3 жыл бұрын
Na3 is a move that stockfish plays in some french advance lines. I immediately felt like this is a computer playing.
@bangbangfan2184
@bangbangfan2184 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but that's not conclusive. For example Na3 in the Advance French is a line that I learnt very early in my chess career from a dusty old book. That's an old concept.
@achyuththouta6957
@achyuththouta6957 3 жыл бұрын
When I was new to chess, I used to start with Na3
@ydgames4291
@ydgames4291 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Na3 avoids getting the Knight getting attacked by pawns so it is understandable I think?
@Berzins69
@Berzins69 3 жыл бұрын
I recently got into chess and chess youtubers, seen a bunch already, but two minutes in, and I just needed to say - Erics calmness makes me feel like I'm meditating.
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 3 жыл бұрын
1:33 Funny that. Because until recently people used to go to bed when the sun set, we don't really have a greeting when meeting someone at 1am. "Good night" is a farewell, not a greeting. and "good evening" only applies to evenings, not nights.
@NotElusivePanda
@NotElusivePanda 3 жыл бұрын
Me in relationships: 20:34
@philshumble6954
@philshumble6954 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@verp4779
@verp4779 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@mawash0309
@mawash0309 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@artursnikulins2712
@artursnikulins2712 3 жыл бұрын
lol. 18:40 this is mine
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 3 жыл бұрын
Arturs Nikulins 🤣
@SkylerAshby88
@SkylerAshby88 3 жыл бұрын
Eric, when you're playing blindfolded, is the chess board in your head also blue?
@supersoupss
@supersoupss 3 жыл бұрын
its a glow in the dark green
@Shadab9617
@Shadab9617 3 жыл бұрын
It is the first board we see in life, probably the 2d one
@loicb4880
@loicb4880 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shadab9617 ok I might be dumb, but isn’t playing chess with a blindfold just guessing?
@berrithoughtfull
@berrithoughtfull 3 жыл бұрын
@@loicb4880 lmao no
@RobbyGAMEZ
@RobbyGAMEZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@loicb4880 No the players have to memorize the board
@maloxi1472
@maloxi1472 3 жыл бұрын
Title should be: *"Trying to Flag a Dirty Computer Cheater"*
@Xtat1cNP
@Xtat1cNP 3 жыл бұрын
And he listened!
@zziippee
@zziippee 3 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking LOL
@xiaoweiwang01
@xiaoweiwang01 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xtat1cNP no the title was trying to dirty flag a computer cheater
@elindauer
@elindauer 3 жыл бұрын
This is a win to be proud of, you fought really well. Fascinating to watch both sides find resources right to the end, even if one side is a computer.
@charlied.310
@charlied.310 3 жыл бұрын
1:30 Eric accidentally quotes the Truman Show
@justsomegoosewithinterneta4199
@justsomegoosewithinterneta4199 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have that pfp on a random website a long time ago and seeing it felt kinds nostalgic lol
@finnhackapell6560
@finnhackapell6560 3 жыл бұрын
It ain't dirty if he's cheating in the first place :P
@EndermansWrath
@EndermansWrath 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamgaines594 agreed
@mraroboy2905
@mraroboy2905 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one watching chess players knowing practical nothing about chess and loving it ?
@idkm8629
@idkm8629 3 жыл бұрын
really enjoy the way they think
@WissenGeil
@WissenGeil 3 жыл бұрын
yes u are
@joekinder7562
@joekinder7562 3 жыл бұрын
i've been recommended this video hundreds of times by youtube over many many weeks and ive finally given in. i hope it's worth it
@user-dg4qz2zy4d
@user-dg4qz2zy4d 3 жыл бұрын
Eric: "white is playing well" Stockfish: thanks! Edit: thanks everyone for the like and thanks for eric for his amazing content
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣😭
@amaan-khan
@amaan-khan 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you thanking for likes?
@jojo_siwafanboy1093
@jojo_siwafanboy1093 3 жыл бұрын
amaan khan shut up
@pavlakrobi2515
@pavlakrobi2515 3 жыл бұрын
@@jojo_siwafanboy1093 mad
@jojo_siwafanboy1093
@jojo_siwafanboy1093 3 жыл бұрын
Imperator robi thanks
@TymexComputing
@TymexComputing 3 жыл бұрын
The account has been closed - so a one time cheater that wanted to be thought of a shy GM :). Unfortunately cheaters usually manage to play faster time controls and it already has been 10 minutes +0.
@geckogeico2212
@geckogeico2212 3 жыл бұрын
It's also pretty obvious when they have a ? at the end of their rating
@wrofiir9697
@wrofiir9697 3 жыл бұрын
I have starting trying to learn more of chess, I feel like I'm barely playing at a 1000 right now, the problem is that a computer tells me what is and isn't a good move, but not why.. I'm watching more top players and hoping they give some insight into moves, and you certainly do. Much appreciated. I follow Ludvig Hammer too but he tends to trail off into mumbling when he concentrates haha
@RichterVonFuchs
@RichterVonFuchs 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have the same issue. When it tells me I made a blunder and look it's pretty obvious but when I do an okay move and it tells me another move is better I usually can't tell why it's a better move unless it leads to material or a better position within a few moves. Eric and Levy has been pretty good, doesn't trail off as often as Ludvig does. Good luck fella 1000ish player.
@DeBert
@DeBert 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't watch this live, but I would get very suspicious after him taking 10 seconds for 16. axb5... (@10:23) Edit: And 19. Nxd6 (9sec, @11:32) would confirm stuff.
@icee1826
@icee1826 3 жыл бұрын
I look pretty sus when i play chess cause i take a long while to do my moves but im actually just scrolling through instagram while im playing and get distracted
@zts99
@zts99 3 жыл бұрын
And you also don’t play exactly like stockfish like this guy did.
@adsantos98
@adsantos98 3 жыл бұрын
Eric: *on a losing position* "Could have been mate in one!" Me: *time runs out for the opponent* "Miracles do exist!"
@xleXithx
@xleXithx 3 жыл бұрын
This video encouraged me to subscribe on Twitch. Keep up the great work Eric.
@trendy10s36
@trendy10s36 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you have a chance to play against an IM in a slow game (let alone the legendary Eric Rosen) and use a freaking ENGINE?? I really dont understand these people
@farshadmh3350
@farshadmh3350 3 жыл бұрын
because they are sick, they have mental problem, in the real world they could not be succeed and that's why they try to hurt people :) it's simple, just block and ignore them, this is best favor for them to do
@viniciuslongo4622
@viniciuslongo4622 3 жыл бұрын
@Farshad MH wow man calm down. You are literally describing a sociopath. It could be just kids faking their rating. Chill!
@christofferfuglset190
@christofferfuglset190 3 жыл бұрын
These guys don't care or have any clue of what chess is. That's why they cheat, to get a cheap plessure of victory on false premisses. It's not even necesarry to look at the analysis to decide if he are cheating or not. Any player who are able to outplay an IM like that are also able to premove the final moves into checkmate.
@noahcoleman6385
@noahcoleman6385 3 жыл бұрын
@Filip Gasic he did make valid connections though. People who are computer cheaters probably struggle in the real world because they don't know what success feels like, they have to cut corners.
@farshadmh3350
@farshadmh3350 3 жыл бұрын
@@viniciuslongo4622 it's possible yes I agree it can be kid but if cheater is 30 years old then how can you explain this behavior? :)
@abhijeetgore310
@abhijeetgore310 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate ur vidoes!!
@joaomacedo3299
@joaomacedo3299 3 жыл бұрын
His vidoes are great
@filler8684
@filler8684 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he makes some good vidoes
@hatemondays3225
@hatemondays3225 3 жыл бұрын
Vidoe killed the radoi star
@18yodeadlifter
@18yodeadlifter 3 жыл бұрын
Bro his vidoes are good
@S0dif
@S0dif 3 жыл бұрын
You look like the kind of guy with a unibrow, but dosnt
@ImEverythingYouCrave
@ImEverythingYouCrave 3 жыл бұрын
Bro watching Eric rosen is so relaxing. He's like so polite and kind
@genericusername4206
@genericusername4206 3 жыл бұрын
he was complimenting him so much too
@nathan164
@nathan164 3 жыл бұрын
Eric: doesn’t know he’s playing Magnus Carlson *wins* Eric: plays against an engine *up a piece throughout most of the game and draws* I feel like Eric’s a little more than an IM, take off that mask Stockfish!!
@abdullahimran4624
@abdullahimran4624 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he has a 2-0 against Magnus carlson, has beat stockfish (in the form of computer cheaters) many times and is absurdly good at variations of chess like 960 and 4 player.
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdullahimran4624 In the form of bad cheaters. A good one would destroy him in only 2 minutes.
@maxmustermann3223
@maxmustermann3223 3 жыл бұрын
@@rykehuss3435 It depends on the Elo. You can tell the engines at what elo they are supposed to play.
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxmustermann3223 Why would you cheat with a handicapped engine?
@maxmustermann3223
@maxmustermann3223 3 жыл бұрын
@@rykehuss3435 So its less obvious. If you play against somebody with 1900 Elo and the Engine goes with 2000 its not as obvious as with 3000
@leonardsmith9870
@leonardsmith9870 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I like lichess I've found myself playing elsewhere lately because of how rampant the cheaters are getting in the tournaments. Outside of the tournaments half the time I'm winning the opponent just runs their clock to 0 and all they do is a 10 minute temporary ban, so essentially nothing, about it.
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 3 жыл бұрын
I was salty and let my clock tick down a few times in the past. But now I force myself to resign even when it's frustrating, perhaps partly because some of my opponents did that too(but not many, I don't know if I'm lucky, but I rarely encounter cheaters or players like that).
@carrottoponcrak
@carrottoponcrak 3 жыл бұрын
Same. It's also why I stick to 5|0 now
@vanillesosse
@vanillesosse 3 жыл бұрын
@@legrandliseurtri7495 I dont get it, what is the motivation behind it? To get the rating points, or just to annoy a stranger? It baffles me why so many do this? Its just so pathetic and childish
@yeagerist977
@yeagerist977 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanillesosse to annoy a stranger
@carrottoponcrak
@carrottoponcrak 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeagerist977 to make themselves feel better because I assume they sadly don't get enough attention in their real life
@emmanuelhoule8070
@emmanuelhoule8070 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine ruining your own soul and self-esteem to try prove something to strangers who dont give a dam and that youll never see.
@GeneralBlorp
@GeneralBlorp 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most enjoyable people you will ever watch play or theorize about chess.
@Jan_Smuga
@Jan_Smuga 3 жыл бұрын
cheers for the material, I appreciate the attitude
@prussia9255
@prussia9255 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's just that Stockfish is now sentient
@maniniescobar244
@maniniescobar244 3 жыл бұрын
In the end after rook f1 you had to take the pawn and start checking with your rook. This is my wise flagging experience
@VikSun14618
@VikSun14618 3 жыл бұрын
God I feel so bad for Eric about this happening. He’s blinking a lot more at the end because even though he knows there’s something up and he’s frustrated with the outcome of the game he joined to have fun, and this was not that. God that must have sucked so much, and good on you Eric for getting your rating refund.
@hv7978
@hv7978 3 жыл бұрын
Man I just LOVE the fast play option in YT
@TheZodiacdragons
@TheZodiacdragons 3 жыл бұрын
Common phrase in these cheat videos: "Opponent is playing good despite the bad opening." Who says Chessmasters aren't considerate? lol
@dradis5185
@dradis5185 3 жыл бұрын
4:12 inTEResTinG Definitely no lingling references here...
@marcantony7816
@marcantony7816 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmmmmmm ;)
@dradis5185
@dradis5185 3 жыл бұрын
@@2piee Ling ling is the god of everything. Remember to practice 40 hours a day. Lol, can I post this on Reddit?
@shrimp9199
@shrimp9199 3 жыл бұрын
I- woah.... all praise Ling Ling imma go practice now lol
@nimascolari1508
@nimascolari1508 3 жыл бұрын
You played a great game there, man. Bravo.
@CallMeQuinnie
@CallMeQuinnie 3 жыл бұрын
20:30 minutes in bishop to H4 by white is a missed win threaten to next turn advance pawn; and if trades are made with rook then pawn upgrade into queen for discover check as well
@samlacey7832
@samlacey7832 3 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful response to being cheated. Eric you absolute gem of a human ❤️
@jackjoseph4226
@jackjoseph4226 3 жыл бұрын
Now whenever I face a slightly strong player I am thinking "Yeah this guy is definitely using an engine"
@douglas7656
@douglas7656 3 жыл бұрын
i love how by move 10 you were already calling him "it"
@L0TI5_
@L0TI5_ 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 400k pog
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 3 жыл бұрын
Closed his account before he could be caught cheating... Rg1 is a super GM move to find in Rapid and probably not even them
@ahmadshokry5945
@ahmadshokry5945 3 жыл бұрын
Not that difficult of a move, I spotted that before him and my rating is about 1900+ because you can easily see the possibility of pinning the bishop. But the suspicious thing is that he found several brilliant ideas in the same rapid game, not just a single idea
@venivini5151
@venivini5151 3 жыл бұрын
rg1 wasn't a super gm move. just a good move
@maxkho00
@maxkho00 3 жыл бұрын
Rf1 (combined with g4 and only then Rg1) was much more of a brilliant find, tbh. Rg1 by itself wasn't that hard to find.
@venivini5151
@venivini5151 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxkho00 agree
@VideoGameManiac8
@VideoGameManiac8 3 жыл бұрын
I love it when you play against computers :D
@yaakovborovoi5905
@yaakovborovoi5905 2 жыл бұрын
Eric: *looks at move times, sees they're literally a straight line* Eric: move times a little suspicious
@hunner4760
@hunner4760 3 жыл бұрын
this video is so relaxing
@leo848
@leo848 3 жыл бұрын
1:16 how'd you get that popup?
@uno-theofficialcardgamebyMatel
@uno-theofficialcardgamebyMatel 3 жыл бұрын
2 questions 1: how do you cheat at online chess 2: why would you cheat at online chess?
@Exter_15
@Exter_15 3 жыл бұрын
1. You play a match against stockfish and move whatever your opponent moves. 2. Gain (dirty) ELO
@psyneur9182
@psyneur9182 3 жыл бұрын
1. a computer tells you what moves to do 2. you are a sad loser that nobody likes and have to rely to cheating in competitive games to get even small doses of happiness
@user-gs6qu7ih3u
@user-gs6qu7ih3u 2 жыл бұрын
14:58 *I like the fact that's my opponent's thinking...* The opponent: *thinking of how to Cheat*
@daltonfury6749
@daltonfury6749 3 жыл бұрын
At The Grandmaster level the problem really just comes down to knowing if you're playing against the computer. I think that's what makes most good players like me so mad is that we can't play normal and we're not sure we're being cheated by computational analysis during the game.
@glennsophie3235
@glennsophie3235 3 жыл бұрын
I really have no idea why someone would want to cheat. What is the point, they are only cheating themselves.
@Gruesome_j
@Gruesome_j 3 жыл бұрын
Some people dont care how they win because they have no honor,
@glennsophie3235
@glennsophie3235 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gruesome_j No honour, no pride and no principles. Pointless in all respects
@LazoGT
@LazoGT 3 жыл бұрын
I was a computer cheater at one point. It was satisfying to beat my friends and other people with extreme precision. I think it was also fun to see them try to beat a computer, and have them miserably fail. I didn't care about rating, I only played casual, because I'd feel bad about having people lose their ratings to something completely unfair. I play legit now, 1800 player, though I don't play as much anymore, also haven't used an engine in more than 8 months now.
@glennsophie3235
@glennsophie3235 3 жыл бұрын
@@LazoGT interesting view point. I'm only a 1000 player but all I see is that people work hard to earn their ratings.
@Liwet.
@Liwet. 3 жыл бұрын
I've found it's a good way to warm up your hands for playing other competitive games like League or CS:GO.
@michaellatsky
@michaellatsky 3 жыл бұрын
When he wins: 21:30 Realing he played a bot: 23:05
@moonshark4909
@moonshark4909 3 жыл бұрын
It was a draw. If you can’t mate with the pieces you have, you can’t win with a flag.
@rhoddryice5412
@rhoddryice5412 3 жыл бұрын
@@moonshark4909 I didn't know that. Good to know.
@maxkho00
@maxkho00 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhoddryice5412 Well, Michael sure didn't. Your comment is inappropriate.
@icantthinkofaname5950
@icantthinkofaname5950 3 жыл бұрын
It was a draw
@alexandersweeney6182
@alexandersweeney6182 3 жыл бұрын
Max Khovansky I think you misread his comment. He’s saying that he ~didn’t~ know that so he’s kinda thanking Davis for informing him.
@user-ee5eb7ku4j
@user-ee5eb7ku4j 2 жыл бұрын
me guessing a move that surprised Eric: I don't need an engine, I AM AN ENGINE!
@Victor.Hugo1
@Victor.Hugo1 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine just sitting there and counting "10, 9, 8, 7, 6,..." for every move you make even when you know what the move is immediately
@B3Band
@B3Band 3 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as dirty flag. If you agree to a ten minute game, and you can't checkmate me in 10 minutes, you lose. If you don't like it, don't play 10 minutes. If you're ahead in material, but way down on the clock, I'm no longer playing in a way to win material. I'm playing quickly and defensively to make sure you can't mate me. It's not fair to me if I'm considered "dirty" for playing with the rules we established right at the start.
@Robert-jy9jm
@Robert-jy9jm 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more!
@cristianstoica4544
@cristianstoica4544 3 жыл бұрын
the rules include also not having assistance of any kind
@gironimo800
@gironimo800 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the videos. Ben Finegold is like watching a sarcastic street hustler play and Nakamura thinks he's a rockstar with groupies. You by far are the best at showing how a chess player thinks. Thanks
@vindoodles7346
@vindoodles7346 3 жыл бұрын
thinks? He IS a rockstar with groupies lol
@opinionday0079
@opinionday0079 3 жыл бұрын
Everytime I lose I know its that damn Fisher guy again
@pedro_deo
@pedro_deo 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, thanks for the video! I Just subscribed to your channel also. I admit I already cheated on online chess games, but I never had more than 1400 rating in all my entire life, because I never did it regularly, and when I did, I did it during the whole game, I mean, cheating all the moves, so I basically just crushed some people in those specific games... After playing other games online, and getting cheaters playing against me in games that I cared more about winning, I realized how frustrating it is to play against a opponent you just can't win. I'm glad I had that reflection about cheating, because I care more about winning and playing chess now that I don't cheat, and my rating is still pretty much the same. Also, the website made a really good job, by banning all my cheated accounts, since I had two of those... Still, I think the website taught me a great lesson by banning me, cuz it was shocking as I've never been banned in other online games, and I hate people who still cheats nowadays...
@bethanylowe8773
@bethanylowe8773 3 жыл бұрын
*Slow hand clap*
@Jiffy_Park
@Jiffy_Park 3 жыл бұрын
Eric have you played against leela? Much more fun than playing against stockfish, her moves feel more human
@delboy723
@delboy723 3 жыл бұрын
It's a pity Eric didn't have a meaningless pawn left on the board, and get a win. It'd be justice if the other player was cheating.
@lowrain8315
@lowrain8315 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite KZbinr back at it again
@TheMerchantGuild
@TheMerchantGuild 3 жыл бұрын
Guy plays well Eric: Guess ill make another cheater video
@samslam4612
@samslam4612 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad really. I used to love playing rapid, but that thought of "maybe my opponent is cheating" gave me too much anxiety, and I stopped playing rapid.
@utkajmatke863
@utkajmatke863 3 жыл бұрын
maybe. so what? he get the ban, you get the refund elo
@lucasmatsuoca
@lucasmatsuoca 3 жыл бұрын
Well, i think Eric hold it pretty well, surviving the opening and the midgame against the engine, usually i have a decisive disadvantage in the first 10 moves against cheaters xD, i guess I'm not a IM
@Jcorry123
@Jcorry123 3 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong, but I think the opponent didn't turn on the engine during the opening.
@lucasmatsuoca
@lucasmatsuoca 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jcorry123 imo he did, cause the time per move was suspicious since the opening, but all we can do is speculate
@31redorange08
@31redorange08 3 жыл бұрын
You can see his opponent played mediocre in the opening.
@lucasmatsuoca
@lucasmatsuoca 3 жыл бұрын
@@31redorange08 yeah, i just saw the analysis now, maybe he turned on the engine after the pawn drop
@faznaz7455
@faznaz7455 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas Matsuoka I would go by the fact that he made only 2 inaccuracies against an IM in some weird theoretical position for the entire game. He made a bunch of suboptimal moves before going full Stockfish 10 later on.
@Crazmuss
@Crazmuss 3 жыл бұрын
for 0:48 knight is a mamluk bishop is a strelets rook is a tura queen is vizier king is mage pawn is spear
@spxdel8520
@spxdel8520 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he was that far ahead of you in time makes it look really sus like there was no planning or thought process whatsoever from his side
@benhsuan4817
@benhsuan4817 3 жыл бұрын
"if i can trade... thats what life is all about... at least when you're up material" As in chess, so in capitalism!
@quack3891
@quack3891 3 жыл бұрын
from the thumbnail I thought he was going to try to gambit his king
@xbubbahotep
@xbubbahotep 3 жыл бұрын
both dark square bishops were so sad for most of the game.
@udon_noods
@udon_noods 3 жыл бұрын
Title: Trying to flag Stockfish
@ibrahimseck8520
@ibrahimseck8520 3 жыл бұрын
You are really unlucky to play so many cheaters...I played over 2,000 games on Lichess and could hardly remember any instance where I suspected my opponent of cheating,. Granted I am only a 1,600 rated player but I always analyse my games with stockfish
@TheColdestplay
@TheColdestplay 3 жыл бұрын
could be a stream sniper. streaming chess or even having a title might edge someone to use an engine for abit
@nolifeorname5731
@nolifeorname5731 3 жыл бұрын
I think cheaters usually skip the 1600 rating levels. I encountered a couple of cheaters when I was ~1500. Lichess is pretty good at flagging them so they usually don't make it that far
@dennisnilsson2606
@dennisnilsson2606 3 жыл бұрын
Love to watch your videos 👍
3 жыл бұрын
Lucky mother! Cool stuff Mr. Rosen
@F83Marc
@F83Marc 3 жыл бұрын
i don't even play chess and idk what's going on but this looks interesting
@xxcattoxx544
@xxcattoxx544 3 жыл бұрын
Try chess tod and 99 doctor's recommendations
@ZedExGaming
@ZedExGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Eric rosen: chess vigilante
@Justin-jn9tw
@Justin-jn9tw 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, what is that extension you used at the start? Thanks!
@dennissvitak148
@dennissvitak148 3 жыл бұрын
I live near st. louis, and I live chess. I have wanted to go downtown, just to visit, for years.
@hippophile
@hippophile 3 жыл бұрын
Still an interesting game. Especially the analysis and the f-file idea (well its only an idea for humans of course, but still...)
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