A Computer Cheater Crushed My Moller Attack

[@furratbahadori9103]

„We‘ll see if my opponent knows theory.“ yeah, like of every recorded chess game ever played

[@treejay818]

conspiracy theorists

[@CGoldthorpe]

Even with masters, after 15 moves or so they are on their own. Maybe someone will be able to do a study if your first 15 moves were perfect every time, and then you took over yourself, how much would that add to your rating - I say less than 200 rating points once you are at least 1699. another thought experiment If a GM and a 1200 alternated moves against an 1800 player, without any chance to communicate during the game, what would the effective rating of the team be? (I suspect almost exactly the same as the weaker player)

[@mareksicinski3726]

@@CGoldthorpe after up to 30 moves man

[@mareksicinski3726]

@@CGoldthorpe there is also endgame theory not just opening theory

[@CGoldthorpe]

I meant to say +0.43 instead of +0.37 (NOT 9.43)

[@byugoi]

"Let's see if my opponent knows theory" Stockfish: I AM the theory.

[@trikmandularlgaming2026]

i laughed haha

[@RedRocketRR-xc5hk]

Damn man

[@eneser184]

Underrated comment

[@aceof8S]

*_"Grand Master has been purified"_*

[@rykehuss3435]

Like Lahey said: I am the liquor

[@darktechno8321]

He didn't cheat. He just fell of the stairs and hit the back of his head while being struck by a lightning, thus becoming a genius for 20 minutes.

[@raul12300]

and also at the same time a kobra bit him and now he is kung fury

[@repp181]

how did your comment got so many likes... it's so overrated

[@darktechno8321]

@@repp181 There is no reason to be jealous (or anything like that) of some likes on some random comment. Likes don't gain you anything except for a feedback whether people liked it. So the point of comments like this is to make people smile or even laught. If that worked for a lot of people that's a good thing.

[@repp181]

@@darktechno8321 you have put to much energy on that reply. And it's not even good, like your previous comment.

[@kreftl]

@@repp181 LOL

[@arctic3od450]

"Let's see if my opponent knows theory." Well yes, but actually no.

[@guitarfreak80ftw]

😂😂😂

[@shinjinator100]

Dont you mean, well no but actually yes?

[@guitarfreak80ftw]

Artina nope. He means exactly what he said: “Well yes (he does know theory as evidenced by his chess moves), but actually no (the theory isn’t a product of his knowledge but a product of an engine)

[@killuazoldyck_]

Yesn’t

[@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683]

@demon shadow you said the same thing with different words

[@aelere7702]

Lichess probably saw Eric resign and said "wait what? let's check that game out"

[@LeoLukasievicz]

@Cat Everything with 1500? on classical and 1200 on rapid lol

[@FoxtrotGolfLima]

it’s the rating difference combined with the result that gives it away hard

[@hvdveer]

I do wonder how Lichess figures out that it's a cheater. I do think that taking 5 seconds for making the only legal move is a strong hint of something fishy. And of course such a strong player losing to a beginner.

[@hvdveer]

@fasha77 yeah you can't exactly conclude without question that someone is a cheater based on rating difference and slow moves. They must have something else.

[@rathelmmc3194]

@@hvdveer, nobody plays a complicated game like that and only has a 10 centipawn loss.

[@llinoscarpe]

I enjoy the vs cheater content, it's quite interesting watching a Master player’s normally foolproof plans and ideas just being crushed

[@marcojimenez2725]

Those cheaters are annoying people

[@alienwarex51i3]

What does your sentence mean?

[@mothhunter2337]

Marco Jiménez they are still less annoying than Penguinz0 shitting on ben finegolds career

[@fastpace101]

@@mothhunter2337 only relevant penguin in chess is Andrew Tang

[@napppstar0]

@@alienwarex51i3 guess he's saying it's cathartic in a way to see someone so good become undone, even if it is by a computer. It's very ego satisfying

[@FareSkwareGamesFSG]

I love how he doesnt say the word cheater until the guy gets banned by lichess. I can tell he values humility and is conscious not to accuse too quickly.

[@jonsirulesx9929]

Also, there might be legal consequences of calling someone a cheater if it isn't proved.

[@critical2apps]

@@jonsirulesx9929 nah not against some random guy on the internet

[@sp1r1tm0lecule]

You can tell he's a solid dude

[@jacencade4019]

@@jonsirulesx9929 legal nah. Not in a random online match. An official match it could be considered slander though.

[@TheYongary]

@@jonsirulesx9929 The Cyber Police will be informed.

[@futurefox128]

Opponent: lookes up at the ceiling to magically see the pieces like Beth Harmon Also opponent: has a projector pointing at the ceiling running stockfish

[@LeoLukasievicz]

LMAO

[@SorchaSublime]

me not yet into chess: "haha thats so silly" me watching magnus carlsen play for the first time: "oh"

[@joshbowling5032]

@@SorchaSublime magnus has a bunch of videos of him beating cheaters he doesn’t even directly accuse them just makes a joke and flags em

[@SorchaSublime]

@@joshbowling5032 no i meant the beth harmon staring at the ceiling thing.

[@itsdifficulttocreateaperfe9850]

@@joshbowling5032 it's impossible to flag a cheater in a 10 minute game tho. Stockfish would eat your soul in 60-70 moves in the best case scenario, so cheater would need to make a move only every 10 seconds

[@haroldfinch582]

Eric: “Some Possibility of Black Blundering” GM Stockfish: “Am i some sort of joke to you?”

[@diabl2master]

Eric: "Let's see if my opponent knows theory" GM Stockfish: "Yes"

[@groverclinton1081]

@@diabl2master Technically, it could be a "no" as well. Without opening book and endgame tables, GM Stockfish can claim to know no theory, and yet crush any human being.

[@haroldfinch582]

Dexter Baum what is it then? We ourselves have defined the titles and what ratings fall into each title the highest being GM. So if it were to have a standard title it would be GM. It might be vastly better but so is Magnus in comparison to other lower rates GMs.

[@groverclinton1081]

@@haroldfinch582 Thing is, Stockfish can crush Magnus or any other human being, and that disparity is only going to grow in future, because computing power keeps growing, but the human brain doesn't - at least not as fast. Since Stockfish can always beat any human, you'd need a new title for him/her. Super GM doesn't cut it either - we've bestowed that (unofficially) on a few humans.

[@dunnokki]

@@haroldfinch582 "god"

[@polakarnegolis]

Ben Finegold: I mean, obviously he's cheating, that's just funny... Eric Rosen: I feel like most of my opponent's moves were... were pretty flawless...

[@oliviapg]

My favorite cheater response was Jerry (ChessNetwork) saying "Wow, this guy plays like a machine"

[@SuperYtc1]

GoldenGaming12621 link?

[@briangerra5236]

@@oliviapg Which video was that?

[@BongelaMnguni]

Can you share a video of finegold playing a cheater?

[@polakarnegolis]

@@BongelaMnguni His Twitch got taken down so for now the video is gone. I'll link you the clip when his account gets back.

[@Goreblender]

the next step for lichess should be a program that detects computer cheaters in real time and gives you a claim victory button, but instead of just a "you were cheating, you're banned" screen it makes them play out the rest of the game against alpha zero before banning them

[@dooflydetailguuy4349]

I love this idea lol

[@Jartran72]

Alpha zero is not an engine, it is a super computer from google. Even older stockfish versions were already capable of beating AZ, but ofcourse it only had 4 hours to practice. Without the hardware google uses alpha software would be pretty useless. Leela chess zero is already much better than alpha zero was but modern stockfish beats it consistantly most of the time. And even the best moves one could imagine could not win vs stockfish in an already winning position. Some faulty logic here.

[@a2zke]

They often detect cheats in real-time though... Midway through one game recently (playing black) a message flashed on my screen, reading "cheat detected black wins" the game terminated immediately and I was given the points as though I'd won.

[@ianmoore5502]

@@Jartran72 i wonder what stock fish on those systems would be capable of. In, say, 1 game calculating a move per week. Using computers THAT powerful.

[@canda2k615]

@@a2zke it only happens when player uses the lichess analysis board to cheat, which is obviously detected immediately

[@NimW]

I love how Eric never directly says that he suspects/knows it's a cheater. during the game.

[@Yoni-boy-l8c]

"H5 played so quickly" yeah stockfish thinks pretty fast bro 😂

[@2019inuyasha]

I do think h5 there seemed obvious. however I don't think any 1200 level players would agree here...LOL

[@brochie]

Bryan Black it's crazy. i've always known how to play chess but just started actually learning the game so i'm VERY bad and it's a lot easier to see moves when i'm not actually playing

[@laytonjr6601]

@@2019inuyasha From other commenters, h5 is obvious to low ranked players but experienced players can see that it weakens your king. Stockfish don't care because he has all the calculations to protect the king anyway

[@knightofchess6900]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ayush-qz8ns]

Eric: My opponent is playing well Stockfish: Thanks!

[@henryh.448]

@13:45 "Black taking time here, yeah what to do." Nailed it.

[@videostar75]

It could be a sarcastic "what to do?" as in, what move should black make, which is obvious. But I think he means what should he do: resign and report immediately or play on

[@mineshaftrisotto]

The Jerome Gambit translates into a binary bitstring that force stops Stockfish if it sees it. Remember that for next time Eric

[@lalithasrividhara6205]

For real ?

[@crypastesomemore8348]

larlitha sri vidhara Lol no

[@anvb5a1]

Beating the Jerome is like dividing 0.... Just not possible!

[@darkt0st00]

Jerome is an absolute monster

[@SHUBHAMSHARMA-rm7nh]

Not I just check with the stockfish and it's play normal and it's winning with black

[@TheKrazyLobster]

3:23 - Opponent offers a draw. It means he saw who you were and got scared LMAO

[@dantehowlstice3052]

@@tgwalrus yeah I dunno why he wouldn't just take a loss vs a streamer lol, but cheaters use engines because they're not smart enough in the first place.

[@marinadelawareusa2390]

Oh

[@afj810]

@@dantehowlstice3052 memorize theory = smart

[@edenhawk2425]

it's shit, my opponent made several times a "draw" after the opening, I refused then later I won the game with as many coins suddenly I confused that my opponent wanted give up, I click too quickly on "draw"! :p

[@yaboykirby7789]

I dunno if he did lol like why wouldn't you turn your engine off and just play one game and get thrashed then use the excuse of oh I saw it was Eric rosen and I lost my cool rather than just expose you are hacking to everyone? I think his engine probably just told him that he was down because he was playing black so he thought he'd offer a draw lmao

[@totalhysteria]

It's hilarious so many cheaters in chess are really bad at cheating. Using the computer for every move and always take the same time. Perfect tells to make it obvious.

[@sensorcato]

Good liars/cheaters don't get caught.

[@nothosaur]

@@sensorcato Cheaters on physical boards "use the restroom"

[@totalhysteria]

@@sensorcato true. "Good" cheaters will most likely just use computer assistance modestly to get some edge. If their games correlate too much with the engines, they know it will look suspicious. Also, cheaters with some deeper understanding of the game probably avoid typical computer lines that humans rarely play.

[@niveshproag3761]

The recent chessbrah video had a 99.3% accuracy and asked "what's a GM" in the chat 🤣🤣🤣

[@chessandmathguy]

@@niveshproag3761 yeah I remember that lol. What's a GM lol...

[@Sarah-no7lv]

It’s actually really disheartening scrolling through the classical shield winner history and seeing how many accounts are now closed due to cheating

[@shri7105]

I hate people who make Happy Eric sad... his voice was sad whole game

[@deepsquat600]

yeah you could tell he knew something was up after about 6 moves

[@cartapax5077]

Bruh.

[@maximilianraab18]

:( so sed

[@jakeoswald8017]

He’s so precious I want to protect him

[@iainbozfelt]

@@jakeoswald8017 Baaarfffff !

[@Mike14Gr]

At least Eric got his rating back...

[@marcojimenez2725]

And we could see an interesting game...

[@kennethbarrientos3794]

But the time spent playing against a cheater is lost forever.

[@umutalp1517]

​@@kennethbarrientos3794 When you play a cheater, you are playing against computer. Considering how educative it is to play against a computer and analyse it afterwards, so it should not be that much of a waste of time I guess.

[@rocchirodrigo]

@@umutalp1517 Playing against a 3400+ ELO isn't any instructive as it has no style, plans or commit mistakes/inaccuracies, being guided purely by brute-force calculation. Even Carlsen is smashed while playing against the engine, let alone Eric or someone the typical chess player. You can actually play stockfish on Lichess if you want to, and it'll move within 1-3seconds for each move without time limit.

[@Jartran72]

@@rocchirodrigo Stockfish does not brute force calculate. It is much more sophisticated. Do you know how many positions a program using brute force would have to evaluate after 4 moves from eatch player in the middle game? It is a very well written algorythm and I think after the advances made by alpha zero and leela there also have been some neural network components added. Calling this beutiful piece of technology simple brute force is disheartening :(

[@TheKrazyLobster]

13:39 - Guy takes 15 seconds to recapture something that any normal human would have premoved LMAO

[@randombanana640]

maybe stockfish wasn't responding so he has to restart the engine

[@ezrahadwi135]

Thats why every cheater even the smartest would caught cheating by Lichess

[@vivvpprof]

Now imagine a new GUI telling you when to premove. Crazy. It'll be a helluva lot harder to catch the cheaters.

[@gustavopinedagonzalez316]

that's idiotic you should be looking for other moves besides recapturing always

[@TheKrazyLobster]

@@gustavopinedagonzalez316 that's what a cheater would say

[@pk-fi1ok]

No more shoutouts, I must focus. Hey, it is peppe, shout out to peppe! Lol :))

[@vimmiduggal6658]

"A computer cheater crushed me" Me :Oh crap, not again

[@riccardorosso2795]

13:40 12 seconds for taking a rook??? Ahahahahahahaha

[@kaishah2822]

Tough decision he could have played Kh7

[@guitarfreak80ftw]

Cut him some slack! His engine was buffering!

[@riccardorosso2795]

@Alan Quezada yeah it's true but..man, do you think you will really play it?😅 ok black is winning in all cases but taking the rook here is an obvious move

[@user-it4iz7pv1g]

Tbh at 13:05 I calculated Rxf3 Rxf8 Kh7. I have some serious traps and if Kxf8 I would be scared of perpetual. So yeah my first candidate move was Kh7

[@PasteGames]

@@user-it4iz7pv1g so you’re saying you wouldn’t take the rook first?

[@cyrilgarcia2485]

If u wanna beat Eric, just spam sub him while playing

[@srijit8127]

this man is amazingly kind...love him

[@chessandmathguy]

No he's not... He just used a computer to cheat against Eric Rosen!

[@icantthinkofaname5950]

0 Inaccuracies 0 Mistakes 0 Blunders Seems legit

[@ginoginoh]

I am more worried about the 10 centipawn loss. 000 can happen, but to have that accuracy XD

[@Karpnado]

@Sarthak Swarnkar It's a measurement of accuracy, so it's saying here that from the whole game his concession to white was only 0.1 pawns because of how accurate the moves were

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

I lost with a 97% accuracy(My rating is 1269!) against someone with a 85% accuracy. How? I played extremely well(44 best moves in 70 total moves) except for one blunder:I gave away my queen for free on move 16 lol.

[@masaaki14]

I just started on lichess and my current rating is 1200+?, and very occasionally even I play 0 0 0 games

[@austinnunez2031]

Mikio Masaaki because people at your level tend to play horrible moves so anyone who has half a brain will take advantage of them and win quickly. I’ve had 8 centipawn loss games with 5 moves bc opponent blunders immediately and they resign. The point is going through a whole game playing the most accurate moves as if it were a short game, so it’s obvious they cheated

[@zziippee]

You held your own very well 🤙

[@jon7911]

Plot twist: he’s just the strongest player on planet earth starting out on Lichess

[@dannyhuffman3587]

Yup. The strongest player who needs ten seconds to take back a rook

[@Dismantle02]

I just watched your “early tactics in the Italian” video from 1 year ago like 30 minutes ago and then you post an Italian game again

[@nathan791]

I watched that video too this morning!

[@davidbofinger]

And yet he kept offering a draw. Stockfish didn't tell him to do that.

[@corvusmonedulas4895]

Without even considering the knowledge imparted, your relaxed and open communication and thought processes seem to immediately improve my chess and are gently entertaining. You're my favourite chess streamer.

[@fueledbyfood]

18:43 Eric looks sad and disappointed for playing a computer cheater.

[@fixipszikon6670]

at 08:50 "I give shoutouts after the game, I have to focus" 10 seconds later: "Hey it's Pepe, shout out to Pepe"

[@ben1996123]

videos of games against cheaters are my favourite videos to watch because it's the only time you ever get to see good players playing normally against engines, instead of playing doing dumb "anti-computer" moves like the hippo or immediately closing the position and doing nothing

[@centrelink6003]

Hmm do you also cheat as well? Very suspicious comment

[@jhondoux84]

@@centrelink6003 i assume hes just interested, I don't think a cheater is much interested in strategy either way

[@ミク初音-u4u]

Me also, I love to see AK-47 vs Hand, 500 Mps train vs running Usain Bolt as well as Russian Tank vs Pro wrestler.

[@wellshit9489]

@Demedim Stafford Gambit ftw

[@DanielDugovic]

14:43 Very instructive... indeed, forcing the opponent to play on makes sense.

[@jak7062]

Eric was very angry inside but good job for keeping your cool ,

[@zziippee]

eric knew the whole time, just has to wait to get confirmation. he hints with what he says

[@JM-027]

8:51 "ill give shoutouts after this game, i have to focus" pepellou appeared, "shoutouts to pepe" lol

[@jamesw9930]

You could sense almost the instant that he realized

[@KralleZ7]

Cheating in chess is not JUST cheating - you are selling your humanity. Where is your pride? What are you?

[@booma5451]

damn that’s deep.

[@mensaswede4028]

Some of them are just 12-year-olds who discover engines for the first time, and do it so they can brag to their buddies that they beat a strong player. I mean, they’re children, so normal logic doesn’t apply. Not saying this particular case is a child, but it could be.

[@KralleZ7]

@@mensaswede4028 I get what you mean and I know they exist, but cheating in a 2 h long tournament? Those who are trying to ruin others hard working grind in a tournament are the worst. They have no self respect and not enough empathy for others.

[@georgiykireev9678]

I'm going to play devil's advocate for a bit and say this: there would be far fewer cheaters in online chess if the community wasn't so toxic towards anyone with an elo below 2000. Chess has the most snobbish, elitist community I've ever seen, and even the low ranked people perpetuate it by simping for the top players

[@BoleDaPole]

Most are from China and see nothing bad with cheating because everyone there cheats.

[@giovannispinotti]

To me it's impressive how the strength of the human player is still showing: computer makes a totally absurd move out of nowhere and the cheated player immediately recognizes all the implications of why that move was so strong and why it was so hard to see before.

[@billowen3285]

Eric's pretty good

[@nikeswoosh7575]

These are some of my fav videos bc i always like to see how early you start to suspect somethings up.

[@TSheBiZ]

20:46 couldn’t have ended this video better than that “mmm pumpkin”

[@Daniele.Rossini]

As you said in your recend video "Missing Both Rooks" *in this type of situations you have to look at the bright side of things*, cheater was immediately banned and you didn't lost any rating points, you explored a very interesting opening with the help of (his) engine moves, and in the end you made a really good youtube and twitch content for your audience, so Eric next time someone will cheat against you (and unfortunately it'll happen again) don't be sad but make trasture of this situation and think about the good content that you'll do with it!

[@billowen3285]

It's not fun trying your best and still getting crushed

[@pk-fi1ok]

@@billowen3285 the only one trying their best here was obviously stockfish. eric chatting, shoutouting and anylyzing just 2 - 3 moves ahead. otherwise i agree with you ;)

[@pk-fi1ok]

wow, usually this kind of "seeing world's bright side" makes me depressed, but not this time and i wanna thank you for this lovely comment! :)

[@billowen3285]

@@pk-fi1ok maybe here it turned out alright, but once a guy cheated against me and it sucked so much. I felt completly outclassed and was in awe of how much better his position was even though I felt like I played pretty well. It's so demoralising putting all your mind into a game and finding out you never had a chance

[@pk-fi1ok]

@@billowen3285 Yes, I got it. I feel the same even if I know I play against computer. The feeling is literarly scary. I have been trying to comprehend the cheating and I came to the conclusion. When you cheat and beat a strong player you feel good. For a moment, wow, that must be something. But it very dangerous false feeling of security. I say every (self)lie is dangerous. So I started to feel sorry for them cheaters. I pity them. That is my medicine against a match with them.

[@costarica739]

11:55 h3 is such a mindblowing move! 14:15 roasting the opponent 15:24 appreciating stockfish move

[@sebastiankrutschoff842]

„I like playing like, real People...“ 😂

[@Fera-gr5mm]

13:50 At youth matches, it actually happens pretty often. One move to do, still thinking.

[@Zack_Taylor]

I love how he doesn't outright say it but it just becomes obvious. A few really surprising deep moves and then waiting several seconds on obvious ones.

[@wojciechstepniewski3953]

This is very good, inspirational and informative material. I am asking for more longer games. Thank you!

[@threck]

It was a great classical stream last night! All games KZbin worthy. Hope Eric also uploads the games against legit players.

[@regzzuse280]

11:38 hard decision so it takes time...

[@markonikolic1386]

I read the title as "A Computer Cheater Crushed By Moller Attack" and was pretty confused the whole first part of the video.

[@sweetlemons8695]

ending the video on "mm... pumpkin" is legendary

[@dominiks5068]

Lichess is so good at banning cheaters. Clearly the superior chess site...

[@alexweitz]

Just today played against a cheater on Lichess myself

[@dominiks5068]

@@alexweitz just report them, I'm sure you'll get back your points :)

[@alexweitz]

Funny thing, it wasn't even a rated game

[@dominiks5068]

@@alexweitz wow. cheaters really are a stupid bunch...

[@snowking3242]

There are a small group of people who successfully cheat on lichess. Most don't know how to do it properly, it's surprisingly easy. The typical 5 second move ones will always be banned quickly because of software lichess have to detect it.

[@texastitan6567]

I’ve been playing this opening for so long and didn’t know it was the Moller. I kinda just discovered it and liked it

[@icantthinkofaname5950]

Please do a Jerome and upload it here.

[@b_manly5067]

He posted a video where he attempted to do the Jerome (he didn't do it right).

[@anvb5a1]

@@b_manly5067 The Jerome is tough to master! :D

[@mawash0309]

Last bit of video was very insightful for me thanks 👌🏾

[@LisEverywereWatching]

The refund was so fast, nice!

[@GaryTheGray]

I missed the beginning of your Twitch stream, so thanks for putting this up. I appreciate the way you handled this.

[@Ozonespider]

am i the only one that gets anxious when Eric gets distracted by messages and misc small talk, especially when it's been his move for a while and he doesn't notice...

[@robawa9846]

I remember when i tried to play with chess engine, that was many years ago, i do still feel bad about that

[@judoexpert2057]

Don't do it again though

[@vinci131999]

I wonder if he offered a draw because he was feeling bad or if he was scared to get banned by a streamer..

[@joshbowling5032]

If he was scared he could have simply not cheated

[@monsieurimhim6147]

He played somebody that plays chess & not theory which is not chess but actually mimicking some one else moves step for step...its why the best players ever were paul Morphy & bobby Fischer ❗

[@ACMEKILLAH]

12:20 What if black rook had gone C8? his Rook would be over, and black still has a rook alive.

[@pratyushsen8108]

Its so wonderful to see that he never suspects his opponent for cheating , such a nice guy!

[@dr.corneliusq.cadbury6984]

He definitely knew

[@ChessPuzzles2]

From opening explorer this is C54 Giuoco Piano, Greco's attack

[@koopslone6823]

Imagine Cheating but with the easy chess AI instead of the hard one.

[@georgechen1124]

To ALL computer cheaters: 1. Has your dad taught you integrity? 2. Is you mom Ex Machina 'lady'? 3. Where is your pride and humanity? What are you?

[@Draztica]

i feel like you can tell it's a cheater because of the consistent couple seconds before a move it makes, even in the opening and in tough spots

[@LemmyTheCarpenter]

I see a lot of judgeful comments about cheaters, lemme tell you my story. When I was a kid my cousin showed me some online chess site and he showed me how he sometimes cheats in some matches. So i took the chess app from him and cheated all the way to 2500 rating, not sure why but it was so fun. Well it went stale after few days but let me tell you what. Before that I didn't know anything about chess, only the rules, but when I started playing with friends after that I realized I got really good at it as those patterns stuck in my head. I mean I wasn't great but I was better than my friends group and it was all thanks to me cheating and passively learning some of the patterns. So in a way cheating taught me to play chess. I don't play chess very often maybe once a year but I still open like the app used to with two Knights first. Love watching these chess videos lately and I have to admit this game vs cheater looked very boring and frustrating, no creativity whatsoever, like playing ping pong against the wall. Stafford gambit ones on the other hand are so enjoyable. I'm thinking of starting to play again and learn properly this time. Sorry for the long post. Peace out

[@legionary1656]

You should pick up chess again my friend

[@ipsykd40]

Awww Eric is so innocent. Why would someone do this

[@thelegendaryphoenix6860]

Eric Rosen is so quiet so he is perfect to watch when you are not allowed on your phone at night but still want to learn chess

[@russellthorburn9297]

I've never understood the point of cheating. There's nothing to gain and no satisfaction to be had.

[@user-lc3on9fd9m]

Satisfaction or what is a gain and what is not is completely subjective. You may not gain any satisfaction from cheating, but they do. Maybe it's the thrill of doing something that is frowned upon, and/or they simply enjoy seeing their elo go up.

[@yannisv.4914]

Your opponent played brilliantly the stockfish counterattack of your moller attack.

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmm]

the stockfish gambit

[@xanbex8324]

Eric handled the cheating well...a gentleman indeed.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Cheaters are horrible, but their actual lines prove that no matter what strategy you pull off in chess, it's always possible for you to be beaten. Too bad this cheater wasn't smart enough to come up with the counter play themselves.

[@lightningstrikevideos760]

I wish I was that good that people would have to cheat against me to win. LOL

[@MV-ch3mm]

"He's still taking time even though it's only one legal move...". He knew.

[@justinmccoy4270]

Eric: Obvious computer engine based on no inaccuracies from me opponent Me an Intellectual: Bobby Fischer conspiracy theory that he never died and is no a lichess subscriber 🤣

[@ejflor1313]

You’re not an intellectual

[@chesspirate_channel]

@Eric Rosen it's Called giuoco piano that in Italian could possibly means linear/regular/flat game. However very good game considering it was vs stockfish. Keep it up

[@jamesart9]

14:50 Can anyone explain to me why he didn't take the Rook instead of the pawn here?

[@federicocappellini3241]

To avoid back rank mate with Qb1#

[@jamesart9]

@@federicocappellini3241 Excellent, thank you, Frederico. My game suffers terribly because I constantly fail to see the obvious ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@luluthecat1570]

Federico Cappellini i dont understand?

[@federicocappellini3241]

@@luluthecat1570 if white takes the rook the h3 pawn covers g2 and black can put the queen to b1 with a back rank mate because the withe king has no escape

[@luluthecat1570]

Federico Cappellini oooohhh got it thanks

[@xred134]

13:40 is where its so obvious

[@carlos.hermanos]

At what move did you think he might've been using an engine?

[@ferlou2373]

He was probably certain 13 min + going by his commentary when he checked the guys blitz games and mentioned the oppo taking time in spite of having only one legal move available

[@itachiuchiha5771]

@@ferlou2373 that seemed like when he was sure of it. But I think he started to suspect when the guy played h4.

[@AureyT.]

Eric has that under cheek shadowing that anna taylor joy has(beth harmon)

[@WalyB01]

We all know you would have stil beaten him with the Jerome.

[@jacobjensen3172]

Or the stafford...

[@aboodvstheweirdworld2682]

Thank u Eric for the great chess content always

[@tcomizij5062]

At 14:46 is the rook not hanging? Could someone explain to me why he can't capture the rook with his pawn?

[@michaelbrent6099]

Qb1

[@chessandmathguy]

gxf3 is met by Qb1 mate.

[@bestever9178]

If Black takes the rook, White has Qb1 checkmate

[@ozzbain405]

love how when hes in a bad position he just ignores the high pressure area and focuses on the outside conflicts, both comical and functional :)

[@zamicczsmicc7464]

What's the point of Cheating

[@n2g747]

To brag to people in the forums about their elo

[@hccs2570]

These people know they will never play good chess and have complexes and then use engines..

[@knightking4412]

crushing your opponent ego

[@Chakkaly]

It's a conspiracy to push people to play blitz and bullet more and more, look into it

[@ミク初音-u4u]

@@Chakkaly It's possible to easily cheat too.

[@fujiapple9675]

"I'm not sure what the computer wants me to do in this position. Would you like to make this a draw?"

[@parsafakhar]

say whatever you want but i love to see IM and GMs getting crushed by the engine

[@centrelink6003]

Obviously a cheater yourself

[@MostLikelyMortal]

Eh, I like fair play, especially in a tournament. It’s so boring to watch perfect move after perfect move.

[@sixjhontongalamar979]

As long as the IMs and GMs knew about it the entire game then yeah... Otherwise not fun for me.

[@Chakkaly]

Why? It's terrible. I do, however, like seeing them playing against tough opponents. Love seeing Rosen play titled Tuesday and tournaments like that, instead of bullying people with the Stafford Gambit. The game in which Anna Maja challenged his London was very fun to watch

[@ミク初音-u4u]

Me too, I love when a Russian Tank just crushes a body builder to mincemeat or when calculator defeats a human being in math, for the same reason I love seeing Car outrace stupid Usain Bolt. Fuck yeah!

[@eduardovillarreal5368]

I love your videos, they make me fall asleep very easily

[@gr1m720]

I dont play online much, mostly at school Online just doesnt work with me i cant even plan out properly i just dont see it right Feels weird to not tojch the peices

[@ChirpBox]

4:00 EricRosen: thanks someone for resubbing for 2 months Bottom right corner: PassedPawn9999 resubbed for 25 months EricRosen at 4:20 : takes takes takes takes takes. 5 secs later: someone donates 1000 bits EricRosen: thanks Conclusion: if you sub or give bits in a small amount, you get a thanks from EricRosen. If you give a BIG donation, you get a “takes takes takes takes” from him.

[@ミク初音-u4u]

*Eric Rosen starts off with fire and enthusiasm as he is ready to spread some cheeks like Sun Tzu from the grave* GM Stockfish : I'm about to end this whole man's career... *Later* GM Stockfish : Anyways, I started adopting...

[@firstamendmentlawyer8535]

The robot laughing was one of the scariest things ever. An omen of things to come?

[@mattbell5602]

So, I thought about h5 and Rook takes Knight...does that make me as strong as an engine? 😂

[@beardedpredator806]

I had the same situation, but I think that, because you know he is playing a cheater, you are looking for unnatural or less likely moves :)

[@andreitiberiovicgazdovici]

Interesting content...Watching an engine playing good chess 🤣 Great line Eric

[@alperendincer3273]

Nice haircut.