Trying to FIX a Faulty iPhone 5S that fell down the TOILET!!!

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My Mate VINCE

My Mate VINCE

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@jaredl2239
@jaredl2239 5 жыл бұрын
When I'm watching your video and i hear the hope in your voice after you attempt a repair, i check the time and see 40min left of the video and think "oh poor vince"
@ShockingPikachu
@ShockingPikachu 5 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing xD
@BloodyClash
@BloodyClash 5 жыл бұрын
:D yes. I stopped watching the time. I always want him to be successfull...even though on some things you see that they can't work. But his dedication is so contagious
@realgustavof
@realgustavof 5 жыл бұрын
I've recently discovered your channel and I'm absolutely addicted to your videos. I watch at least one everynight before sleeping 😄 This came just in time!
@mr.radiolips4964
@mr.radiolips4964 5 жыл бұрын
I do the same as well. @Gustavo F.
@tetenc555
@tetenc555 5 жыл бұрын
Eu tb llkkkkk
@talon4x4
@talon4x4 5 жыл бұрын
I know that feeling. When I found Vince's channel I sat here and watched all the videos in like 2 days. Just love it!
@UltimatelyEverything
@UltimatelyEverything 4 жыл бұрын
For real i do the same thing or on a weekend when i'm not doing anything and just relaxing i'll bing watch Vince's videos i'm surprised i still have videos to watch on this channel
@AttilaTheHun333333
@AttilaTheHun333333 5 жыл бұрын
Your channel inspired me to never give up. I successfully changed a HDMI chip on my faulty LG LCD TV. The chip has about 100 pins. I tried the fix about a year ago without any luck. Only due to your videos I gave it another shot and last nicht I got it to work. You should have seen the smile on my face...it was one of those Vince moments when you are successfull after hours and hours of work. Thank You for your awesome work and the insipration! :)
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Well done mate :-)
@AttilaTheHun333333
@AttilaTheHun333333 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mymatevince Thank You Vince :)
@mahlapropyzm9180
@mahlapropyzm9180 5 жыл бұрын
40:00 Electronics Repair School is an excellent channel. Really useful diagnostics, does all his work without schematics. Yay for Sorin!
@FixxeR186
@FixxeR186 5 жыл бұрын
My fav part of Vince's videos, is that it doesn't even matter to him if it is even worth the time to try fixing it, and sometimes it totally isn't. But he doesn't like to easily give up, and when he succeeds (and almost always does, at least to a point) He gets really stoked when he succeeds. He is in it to learn, share, and is beyond happy with what he does. This is what youtube is all about if ya ask me. :) thanks vince for all your enthusiastic helpful videos.
@vanerek
@vanerek 5 жыл бұрын
I have the slight feeling that you are turning the typical family reunion into a fix it family meet-up! Loving the videos Vince!
@matthewlemon4208
@matthewlemon4208 5 жыл бұрын
the joy of fixing the unfixable. The fact you never give up on things where others would is amazing
@MonidethPen
@MonidethPen 5 жыл бұрын
I love your perseverance in your trying to fix videos. Impressed you got it to boot in the first place. Unlucky with the touch screen not working.
@tdub8719
@tdub8719 5 жыл бұрын
Vince 10 out of 10 for the effort and commitment. I hope at some point you do another revisit, not just for my own viewing pleasure but I imagine the fact you seemed so close may niggle you too. Either way all the best.
@brianchiarvalloti1301
@brianchiarvalloti1301 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is the most tenacious character I've ever seen. I'd hate to have him chasing me! I'm tempted to rewatch the whole video and count how many times he says "If this doesn't work, I'm just going to give up." (check the time bar) An hour left to go! Clearly, he didn't give up... XD Great work Vince! Your humble nature and persevering spirit have made me a fan!
@heartzfnn
@heartzfnn 5 жыл бұрын
At an hour ten I got just as happy as you the longer it went on and the more you kept fixing I was like "he's going to fix this phone and getting more excited please don't stop making videos
@barrydillard2130
@barrydillard2130 5 жыл бұрын
you dont know how much of an inspiration you are to me and my repairs.. keep up the good work
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you :-)
@elrondriel
@elrondriel 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say your videos are always super friendly and inviting, relaxing to watch and I'm pretty sure you're the nicest guy on KZbin. I really hope you got this fixed for your nephew I felt so sorry for him!
@Clannish89
@Clannish89 5 жыл бұрын
This is the type of guy that's satisfies most people with his videos
@fabiangarcia7025
@fabiangarcia7025 5 жыл бұрын
1 hour and a half?! Nice. Time to grab popcorn
@sabassanchez7799
@sabassanchez7799 4 жыл бұрын
Nice I was eating Popcorn 🍿
@charlesdeens8927
@charlesdeens8927 5 жыл бұрын
This repair was a roller coaster of joy and despair. Can't fix them all, but one hell of a great attempt.
@TheOldRogue
@TheOldRogue 5 жыл бұрын
Great effort Vince, you did really well and it's not easy working with such tiny components, it's also a big gamble with water damaged items. It was excellent to see you get as far as you did, well done :)
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate :-)
@eclogites
@eclogites 5 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the more interesting videos that showed up in my recommended.
@SaccoBelmonte
@SaccoBelmonte 5 жыл бұрын
You almost did it!! I actually said YES out loud when you got the screen to show something. You've got tons of patience and steady hand sir.
@RacerJames76
@RacerJames76 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely with a little more education and resources you will be a force to be reckoned with. Finding diagrams and understanding how componants should be testing really helps. I was Louis Rossmann do a lot of mac book repairs. Good to see you making progress. Keep it up!
@3dirpi4a
@3dirpi4a 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Was very pleased to see u nearly fixed it. Hope u will revist this phone. Would still check conector for screen possibly change it.
@betts579
@betts579 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Vince. The joy it gave to us all to see that apple symbol pop up. Keep at it.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 5 жыл бұрын
3am in the morning and I am like hooked, I do love your stages of hope, then deflation, then despondency followed by spotting something and hope flares again until the end with the punch in the air and "yesss" which is always fun to watch :) or the rarer now "put into the naughty box for another day" like the retro consoles yesterday that was a spot on job :D
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Ian :-)
@arshaqhabib1932
@arshaqhabib1932 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty soon this dude wont start his vids with "this is probably the wrong way to do it" at his rate of progress
@MariaEngstrom
@MariaEngstrom 5 жыл бұрын
I have followed you for a while and have seen your progress, you are a true inspiration. Even though it (at least so far) did not work out this time, I'm very impressed and inspired by your determination and ever increasing skills. Great job and great video! :)
@k8uba
@k8uba 5 жыл бұрын
If you fix an iPhone to the point of it powering on to the 'press home to unlock' screen, then you should be able to retrieve data off it if I'm not mistaken.
@skonkfactory
@skonkfactory 5 жыл бұрын
The reason some chips look matte black and others look like shiny pieces of silicon is exactly that: the matte black ones are in an epoxy package, whereas the ones that look like they're made of glass are bare passivated dice soldered directly onto the PCB. It's sometimes called a "chip-scale package".
@Ratboycure
@Ratboycure 3 жыл бұрын
Haza nice job your a Legend...Good thing for the nephew you do not charge by the hour!
@MightyJabbasCollection
@MightyJabbasCollection 5 жыл бұрын
"Unfortunately there won't be a revisit video for this one" -- Up next on KZbin: "Revisit iPhone that fell down the toilet!" I'm very impressed with your patience and persistence, Vince.
@neomister9845
@neomister9845 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. So close to fixing..
@restlessnative7180
@restlessnative7180 5 жыл бұрын
I admire your perseverance. Great videos, Thank you
@richardhudson3014
@richardhudson3014 5 жыл бұрын
I knew you could get the iPhone working again and you did it say to go Vince rock on!!!
@Zu3sUK
@Zu3sUK 5 жыл бұрын
Mate your channel is blowing up!! Well done mate, well deserved! 👍 loving the videos, rooting for you everytime 👌👏
@steve323f
@steve323f 5 жыл бұрын
1:09:53 the moment I hunt for. It's the greatest feeling ever. I've not watched the rest yet Vince so I don't know if it's 100 percent. But God damn I respect your tenacity good Sir. 👍. Watching the rest now.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve, unfortunately this one didn't end well!!!!! Can't win them all, might be worth a revisit down the road :-)
@steve323f
@steve323f 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mymatevince I must admit I detest iPhones and repairing them. The screens are so fragile and even a battery change involves removing so much including the front facing camera. Good luck if you go back to it Vince, I have every faith in you.
@logothaironsides2942
@logothaironsides2942 11 ай бұрын
This was educating. I did a 4S some years ago, one with broken screen one with no wifi IIRC and ended up with one working phone. Ive changed out a battery in hub's newer apple SE too and while it was a bit annoying , it did eventaully work and still does. Really though water seems like it is the killer for tiny electronics. I wonder if a silicagel bag would have worked better than their rice to dry it out.
@gregsmith2262
@gregsmith2262 5 жыл бұрын
Looks easy? That is one busy board! You have admirable persistence, remember andy pandy lol
@eekeek433
@eekeek433 5 жыл бұрын
I like your "i'll have a go Joe" attitude towards repairs like this one LUL keep up the Let's fix stuff content :)
@TheTony111111
@TheTony111111 3 жыл бұрын
you can't win them all but 10 out of 10 for effort 👏👏👌👌
@-Scraggyanne-
@-Scraggyanne- 5 жыл бұрын
When the phone came to life i was so over the moon for you, such a great shame it couldnt be fixed. Really feel for you Vince 😕☹
@pds8475
@pds8475 5 жыл бұрын
I like the Ipad rehab channel on here. She is a house wife who tried to fix her kids iPhone after it went down the toilet. From there she opened up a business fixing IPhones and IPads
@Eremon1
@Eremon1 5 жыл бұрын
That mirror finish on the ICs is due to what they are made from. Silicon crystals with an extremely high purity are cut into wafers and polished to a mirror finish sometimes for function and cooling. The flat black ICs are "packaged" in a ruff coating of epoxy for protection and when cooling is not an issue.
@Eremon1
@Eremon1 5 жыл бұрын
Also ifixit.com is a great site for how-to videos on iPhone repair as well as a whole assortment of other electronics.
@movin2x
@movin2x 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Vince quick correction iPhone 6s and onward are water proof as it wasn’t advertised it is not very well known however it does have an ip 67 water resistant rating.
@adrienbrasseur8809
@adrienbrasseur8809 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for the 400k subscriber my mate Vince
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much :-)
@Pittsburghfix
@Pittsburghfix 5 жыл бұрын
Great work! I have tried a few of these they are not easy.
@davesmith7671
@davesmith7671 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely gutted for you there Vince. Loved watching this and I think if you had of managed to keep going you could of proved the apple experts wrong. Looking forward to what you have next.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, I thought I had this one and then it all went wrong :-)
@davesmith7671
@davesmith7671 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mymatevince been there multiple times myself. Still made for a fantastic watch and a learning curve too. Not of that but now you will be here on KZbin for others to reference off when it comes to finding what to look out for and what chips and other areas of the motherboard to test . Your failure may lead to many others success which I think is a win too .
@DDCRExposed
@DDCRExposed 5 жыл бұрын
When it comes to water damage, there is probably a bad chip (or any other number of things). I recommend STS Telecom's videos here on KZbin. That guy specializes in board level repairs and can get almost any number of iPhone problems working again. He has some tools that'll help diagnose problems like this that shouldn't be too expensive either. He may have a video or two that could help you get that iPhone working again or at least help you figure out what exactly is wrong.
@KorAllRBare
@KorAllRBare 5 жыл бұрын
Dropped yo a like, nice to see progress, where once the touch screen part "digitiser" was/is replaced and then that chip once and for all replaced resulting in a roaring success.. showing up all the experts who wouldn't have touched it
@terminationshock1356
@terminationshock1356 5 жыл бұрын
Vince seems like such a nice man
@xdBubblesx
@xdBubblesx 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to watch u livestream your work so amazing to learn and watch . Maybe in the future 😋
@HelixAdamOxford
@HelixAdamOxford 5 жыл бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS ON 400k
@ergz-vr6
@ergz-vr6 5 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good content mate
@BBK12121
@BBK12121 5 жыл бұрын
Another Excitement!! lol, Love it VINCE
@lactobacillusprime
@lactobacillusprime 5 жыл бұрын
What a tenacity, you came so close.
@Daniel-dl6fp
@Daniel-dl6fp 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 400k
@moosesugar
@moosesugar 5 жыл бұрын
the chips are cheap to buy and they come already reballed i would revisit this vince i think the screen is at fault with the touch issue because of the burn mark on it good video and you got really close i enjoyed this one well done
@Agarico
@Agarico 5 жыл бұрын
This is really impressive since you don't have a software like ZXW to help you with schematics. You should invest in that type of software to help with your micro soldering. It should you witch traces go where and also tells you the correct measurements you should get with your multi-meter and I'm looking forwards to more iPhone repairs.
@tinazill4870
@tinazill4870 5 жыл бұрын
PhoneBoard is actually a pretty descent free option
@penguianyisme
@penguianyisme 5 жыл бұрын
I've fixed water damaged board with a cheap ultra sonic cleaner and water from the bottom of my tumble dryer. Not officially saying it's the best way. But it has helped me in the past. Bored gone from faulty or dead, to working with just 5 mins in tumble dryer water.
@lolcat
@lolcat 5 жыл бұрын
So you put it in a tumble dryer?
@penguianyisme
@penguianyisme 5 жыл бұрын
@@lolcat No. Take the water out of the collector in a tumble dryer, then use that in an ultra sonic. It's basically free distilled water
@silverdash1
@silverdash1 4 жыл бұрын
addictive video ,top marks for effort
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 5 жыл бұрын
I love it when you fix it. When that Apple logo came on and then. Grrr. So close!
@bitum21
@bitum21 5 жыл бұрын
Vince the multi layer chip should be the giroscope sensor... try to google board view for iphones and you will find every model and together with the schematics it´s very usefull.
@DracoMcGuyver
@DracoMcGuyver Жыл бұрын
Vince, Try doing a hard restart to possibly fix the touch screen problem. press both the power button and home button at the same time and hold both until the apple logo appears.
@SPEXWISE
@SPEXWISE 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince. May I suggest you get a pair of helping hands. They are cheap and so very useful especially for holding your boards still while you apply hot air.
@thomashellgren4658
@thomashellgren4658 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Great Videos you make, I would like to know what that paste you use when you solder and where to buy it.
@AlvinMarin.
@AlvinMarin. 5 жыл бұрын
Great video you brought it back to life still a win
@p0w3rKiLL
@p0w3rKiLL 5 жыл бұрын
I would have given up after half an hour and thought you should aswell. But you surprised me man.. you came sooo close... NT Vince
@zincmann
@zincmann 5 жыл бұрын
48:39 "Gutted" again....I know what it means but whenever Vince says it is just funny as hell. And at 1:10 "Brilliant" with the pumped fists! Congrats Vince on another successful repair, but I didn't hear "result" this time.
@Ironapple09
@Ironapple09 5 жыл бұрын
Try Plugging the home button in something iPhone are fussy when certain things are not plugged in
@allrounder247
@allrounder247 5 жыл бұрын
Simpson's tapped out. Thumbs up from me before the video begins.
@ANSARY2222
@ANSARY2222 5 жыл бұрын
Wow just wow VinceI was clapping and cheering up while watching
@nicholasmack2144
@nicholasmack2144 5 жыл бұрын
You the man Vince
@Zu3sUK
@Zu3sUK 5 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeessssss!!! Just got toward the end, what a legend mate, think I woke everyone up 🤣👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👐 Edit: awww no the chip 😟😧😭 unlucky dude, sooo close!
@TechThatYT
@TechThatYT 5 жыл бұрын
Bro please finish fixing the phone later!! It could help you learn more about phone repair man. It was amazing what you did to get it working. I want to see it finished man.
@BloodyClash
@BloodyClash 5 жыл бұрын
:D one day we want to see Vince's face. And maaan. I just love this british accent. Here in Germany we all love it
@retractingblinds
@retractingblinds 5 жыл бұрын
use a droplet of IPA and see where it evaporates first to determine which parts are heating up and what aren't.
@rosariodagosto6484
@rosariodagosto6484 2 жыл бұрын
TOUR THE MOST HAPPY TECH KEEP UP GOOD LEARNING
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 5 жыл бұрын
Capacitors aren't always connected to ground sometimes they're used to pass an AC signal but block a DC signal. Which can typically be found around RF circuitry.
@GRUSSNewton
@GRUSSNewton 5 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about using a thermal image camera for checking shorted components or high resistance from corrosion = heat Great watch as always, certainly differently to the Australian Womble! 😜👍
@megamillionspowerball
@megamillionspowerball 5 жыл бұрын
haha vince youre awesome man edit; im glad to call you my mate
@mahlapropyzm9180
@mahlapropyzm9180 5 жыл бұрын
Re the battery - if they are "fully" discharged i.e. below 3V, most (not all) charging circuits will trickle charge them slowly until they are back above 3V then they should go into full charge mode. That's probably what happened with the old battery. You can see the same behaviour with a Poundland powerbank - when new the batteries are empty and you plug them in and nothing seems to be happening. After 5 mins or so the charging light comes on once the trickle charge phase has completed.
@joawesome2319
@joawesome2319 5 жыл бұрын
I’m still rocking a 5s in 2019 Maybe the connector that was corroded could of affected the touch screen, just like how the corroded connected affected the previous 6s. Also, I’ve herd that there’s two chis that controls the touch, not entirely sure.
@theatheisthammer
@theatheisthammer 3 жыл бұрын
@my mate Vince you can still get his work off even without the touchscreen by using a mouse or plugging into a Mac or PC, 6 moths worth was it?
@v8hackshack667
@v8hackshack667 5 жыл бұрын
There's a non working tiger Joe tank for like 30 bucks on eBay. It's 1/16 scale? They are huge tanks and would be cool to see you fix
@-Dash-
@-Dash- 5 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the effort
@kennethbarker852
@kennethbarker852 2 жыл бұрын
1st class video to watch thank you take care kind regards from me kenneth
@k671070
@k671070 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Vince, great video as always! Would it be possible when your editing these videos that you could flip the footage so that we get to see it from your point of view? May just be my OCD talking but i think it ould make it a lot better if we could see from your perspective rather than looking from the other end! Hope that makes sense and i really do love your videos especially the longer ones. keep up the brialliant work
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I could look into it but I think when I tried it before it looked off because the camera is not directly above but at a slight angle. I can try again but I think it threw off the perspective or something :-)
@danielhulan3058
@danielhulan3058 6 ай бұрын
Knowing my nephew and brother, when they say the toilet was clean.... I wouldnt believe it lol
@owenp348
@owenp348 5 жыл бұрын
could of been a faulty digitizer on the screen or the the port on the board
@Alexander_l322
@Alexander_l322 5 жыл бұрын
It looks like it could be from the drop.if it is aftermarket Id try a screen but only after cleaning the board up
@fungunfanatic
@fungunfanatic 5 жыл бұрын
@VINCE When I replaced my screen on my 5s, the touch screen would not work until I put the original home button on.
@herberto__
@herberto__ 5 жыл бұрын
STRANGE
@maxpowers2168
@maxpowers2168 5 жыл бұрын
@UCnaqHsI59OS8-_MXmmthPFw He use the original screen @ 1:10:43 and the touch screen didn't work, maybe didn't work because he broke something at beginning when he open it.
@fungunfanatic
@fungunfanatic 5 жыл бұрын
@@maxpowers2168 Oh yea, I didn't notice that, so that is definitely not the problem, good catch.
@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer 5 жыл бұрын
Never disconnect components while the device is under power. You can damage it further. The tiny IC how desoldered itself could be the main mosfet.
@bigt3242
@bigt3242 5 жыл бұрын
Forgot to say when useing the usb meter if battery fully discharged on a working phone you would see high current when battery is nearly full current decreeses until battery is full so 170mA could meebn full charge on battery. hope this helps.
@BowsettesFury
@BowsettesFury 5 жыл бұрын
Just FYI iPad rehab covers these quite well
@jamesdougan8789
@jamesdougan8789 5 жыл бұрын
jesse is great and explains things very good and really knows her stuff.. i was going to suggest the same channel and her friend louis rossmann for general mac book repairs and supplies and equipment and how to videos cheers james D
@audioorigami
@audioorigami 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdougan8789 yip she is great
@projectpacer
@projectpacer 5 жыл бұрын
If you are able to get it back to the working condition but the touch screen is still not working. Would you still be able to connect the phone to iTunes to get the data off of it to give to your nephew? It's primarily the data he needs to get off it correct?
@DEmma1972
@DEmma1972 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you will revisit this phone. Congrats on some of the fixes. We go magnet fishing and on the last fish of the day my daughter pulled out a 3310 (complete). Must have been down there for 15-20 years. No sim card though. We would never use this as a phone...we just want to see if we can power it up. If we cant then I am sending the phone to you lmao.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Emma. I love magnet fishing, I did a video of it here on KZbin a couple of years back (maybe longer) and we found an old VCR :-) Last time I went my magnet got stuck to a big pipe and the string broke :-( I need to buy some more magnets now :-)
@DEmma1972
@DEmma1972 5 жыл бұрын
Dont use string next time lol. I am currently using a 780kg double sided (390) magnet with 10.5mm ROPE which is 3000 DaN (supposedly). I actually found a bag of coins (maybe 60)...unfortunately most are pennies...some 2s and 5 5s...but free money is free money.
@striketeam316
@striketeam316 5 жыл бұрын
You say live stream take you days.. but live stream with active real time comments would have given you instructions how to fix this up in minutes. But I guess you prefer Google search and youtube. Big fan here have fun and prosper
@gustavefrankfurter6462
@gustavefrankfurter6462 5 жыл бұрын
You gave it a good go with those minuscule chips. I would've given up, but you saw it through. The enemy of the iPhone is the toilet! 📱+🚽=☠
@Marie579
@Marie579 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince with regard to the no power up on this I think you will find it’s the flim flam valve on the modulator thingy me valve. LOL
@Chips98
@Chips98 5 жыл бұрын
what camera does he use? im wanting to do something similar to what he is doing just on older game consoles
@conradwallace3404
@conradwallace3404 5 жыл бұрын
The screen connectors are still possibly damaged, the touch screen connector on the board was the really corroded one, perhaps revisit that connector. (It's the vertical one on the left)
@iurabordei933
@iurabordei933 5 жыл бұрын
When I changed the screen of my 6 Plus the touch wouldn't work either. By simply installing the shield on top of the screen connectors I got it working once again.
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 5 жыл бұрын
Nice attempt! This was never going to be an easy repair! You should watch ipad rehab channel - often it seems with corrosion damage that touch fails and you need to replace the IC related to that, as well as perhaps other passives around that area. The big problem with liquid damage is because the power is kind of "always there" as the battery discharges, you get current flowing in places it shouldn't, so often more than one thing ends up dead. The best thing to do with liquid damage is turn it off, immediately open it, disconnect the battery, use air (hot or cold) to try and dry the PCB off, then clean up like you did before re-attaching the battery. I once spent days working on a Nokia N95 that someone dropped into a river - I eventually got it working but the backlight circuit had failed, and it wouldnt have lasted long term =/ Great video Vince! No one can say you didn't give it your hardest!
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