Trying to make sense of the Manoa tragedy

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Update: Just went through the first wave of comments. While I usually reply to every comment, I decided to keep my comments brief. For a topic like this, it's tough. Mahalo for the comments and glad to hear that other people are also impacted by this and still thinking of the family and situation. I'm not sure how other people feel about what happened. I'm still processing what occurred, even though I didn't know the family.

[@Bellasie1]

Hello. Just learned about the case, from this video. When I was a pre-teen in the early 80s, my father had bought records through a classified from a man who he got on so well with when going to pick up his order that he invited us (my parents and myself) for the Sunday lunch and day at their place soon after. He had three children one of which was a girl my age (9 or 10). It was a one-off but a very nice day, and I got along very well with the kids, especially the daughter. A couple of years later, my father was reading the newspaper one evening and in the news he read this man had killed his children, then his wife, and surrendered to the police immediately. It was a detailed article complete with a picture of the man, so there was no mistake possible. That man committed suicide in prison a year or so later. Nobody ever knew what motivated him to do that. I can't remember what was his job, but that family seemed to have a regular life and home, and all were very agreeable, welcoming us perfect strangers in a very heartwarming way. The wife was a nurse. She was last to go during the slaughter, as he had drowned the children before she came back from work. When we were together at their home, "Imagine" by John Lennon was playing on the radio, since the song was being programmed a lot just after John Lennon's murder, and I remember discussing that with the daughter. For this reason, I feel uneasy to this day when I hear it. I thought it's a rare enough experience and relevant enough that I would share it with you.

[@nottwise4490]

I think a lot of keep thinking about it because he seemed like such a normal guy no history or violence. Everyone said there were no warning signs. So it disturbs us because we don’t want it to happen to us. Or we don’t want to turn violent also. I think your nightmare is definitely a reflection of what you don’t want to do. Thanks for starting this discussion.

[@byronharano2391]

I am upset here in Arizona about this.

[@BobbyHo2022]

He works in my building. I've been in the elevator w him before.

[@JohnnyAndrews-bn6nt]

I painted the house and fixed up rooms for them. This is so difficult but I feel answers help the healing even though the info lately isn’t so good. I could just scream no.

[@rochelle7901]

Thank you Chris for addressing this news on your channel. I live on Maui and I have been terribly disturbed by the current crime situations on Oahu. This recent tragedy in Manoa is heartbreaking. You, are experiencing the same thoughts and feelings that I’m having too and I think it’s human. Hawaii people have an over abundance of Aloha that we feel one another’s joy and pain. We reflect bc that family is our family and their community is our community too. We wonder how and why. I think what we can only do is be cognizant of those around us. Family, friends, workmates, colleagues, classmates let us start with our own circle and be there for others whether to listen to someone, seek help or advice for them, buy their groceries, help pay for a bill or gas if need. Anything that extends compassion and love is what we need to express to those in our circle so they know they are not alone. Blessings Chris you are a man full of Aloha.

[@cupidok2768]

what are you gonna do now?

[@dawnwalus6587]

As I live in the Chicago area this is common here and EXTREMELY SAD. It’s not just in metropolitan cities it’s everywhere and why? It is in my opinion the way we live now. We no longer live simply. Materialism and greed has become a way of life for a lot of people and it puts stress on people. People are paying 10K for professional baby pictures when there are starving babies in every country! IDK what to say but people are so much more violent now, selfish, and care for themselves over others. There’s so much more mental health concerns now but are still not being addressed as much as it should be. I’m sad for you and this family because you care about them you have a good heart! stay that way! Your have a beautiful family just live them it’s the best you can do and if you never buy a house that’s ok too it’s the being together what your children will remember and learn from. Love your channel Aloha

[@garypasseno374]

When I was a kid in the 50's and 60's the men committed suicide due to money problems. We lived in a wealthy area.🤨 🤙

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for the comment. I hope this situation allows people to reflect on their lives and what's important. The financial burden of "extra luxuries" may not be necessary, especially if it adds so much stress to maintain that lifestyle.

[@tednguyen7258]

inflation didnt help

[@haveaniceday4879]

My daughter was classmates with the oldest girl at Iolani. It’s been so sad to think about what happened to the family. What’s hard is the violent way he killed them. I’m sure some of it was pride, despair and extreme depression as a man not being able to provide for his family. There is absolutely no reason to do what he did. There are a lot of people in debt and there are many ways to deal with that. It’s been such a sad week and I hope people in despair find help before doing something so tragic.

[@malu1034]

Hi Chris. All I want to say is I commend you for expressing your feelings, and I hope your video encourages other men to do the same. 💙

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo 🤙

[@erickim2025]

What you expressed is what all of us feel,this is difficult for most to put into words our emotions . Thank you for writing this for me. My feelings mirror your words, Mahalo

[@milessakauye8819]

Hi Chris, thank you for sharing. Our hearts our very saddened by this event. I can't imagine taking someone's life, even more so a child's life, and even worse your own kids' life. A similar thing happened here in Arizona, so I've had to reflect on that before as well. It is impossible for me to even comprehend how someone could be pushed to do something like that. Take care of yourself, give your boys and your wife a hug.

[@Mauirunner]

Mahalo for sharing your thoughts on this scary and senseless act. My grandparents lived their lives on Manoa Road. Just unthinkable.

[@keithw7542]

Certain tragic events deeply impact us especially if we can relate in some way. Especially if we have a caring heart. One doesn't need to know someone to have a deep emotional response.

[@PatrickMurtha]

From the Wikipedia article on “Familicide”: …the "anomic" killer sees his family purely as a status symbol; when his economic status collapses, he sees them as surplus to requirements. The "disappointed" killer seeks to punish the family for not living up to his ideals of family life. The "self-righteous" killer destroys the family to exact revenge upon the mother, in an act that he blames on her. Finally, the "paranoid" killer kills their family in what they imagine to be an attempt to protect them from something even worse.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for sharing.

[@hori166]

I don't think this applies here. See my comment above.

[@tednguyen7258]

that was deep

[@Bodhismile]

What a tragic occurrence. It reverberates widely. May all who need support receive it. My heart goes out to you and the community of people who knew the family-relatives, neighbors, co-workers, colleagues, friends, fellow students etc. 🙏💞

[@Golgibaby]

You're not alone in regards to how heavy and persistent this has felt. In hopelessness, it is, yes, real easy to slide downward, especially when you've convinced yourself that 1) it's better to no longer seek connection and help, 2) that the "fixing" is something that has to be done alone. There is pride and dignity on the line when it comes to self efficacy and independence. Shame that is perceived can delude people to think there is no redemption in keeping face in society/family, even in the reality of facing prison time. Not easy to deny how judgement stings, especially if we're already self critical and conscientious. Mahalo for the opportunity to decompress some thoughts. Sincere social connection can be healing...or at least not completely toxic. Even in grief, there is aloha.

[@kalyanamitta8797]

Hi Chris I found your video in my search to find meaning in the senseless tragedy as well. Thank you for your thoughts. I am a psychiatrist MD, and I work in a psychiatric emergency room in California. I grew up in Hawaii and I still have family living there. There could’ve been so much done if he only sought out help earlier-at the very least his family and his wife should’ve brought him to a psychiatric emergency room or got him an appointment to see a psychiatrist. He could’ve been prescribed medication to target his depression and severely psychotic, delusional, thinking. I have seen patients here on the mainland with similar thinking, but with intervention, prevented from carrying out their heinous thoughts of destruction. I believe he in his own way thought he was saving his family. He did not want to leave his kids behind, and perhaps have them raised by someone else whom he thought would not care for them, or even may abuse them. Without the more logical, reality based opinion of a mental health professional, He was his own sounding board, and his thoughts started to downwards spiral into a psychotic level.. through my family, I am still very much in touch with the Hawaii community and this tragedy haunts me & prompted me to write this comment. There needs to be more attention placed on mental health issues, and seeking help without shame or embarrassment. The mental health stigma is very real still in Hawaii local culture. I have family there, so I know. I try my best to educate them, but the public officials and the HI department of health should really put more emphasis on PSAs to educate people about seeking help for mental health issues early on. Thanks for reading this and thanks for putting out this video.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for sharing. The pandemic really gave rise to seeking mental health services, but more still needs to be done. I personally wouldn't know where to turn to if we ran into significant financial problems (other than my parents). More public education and awareness for mental health services would be huge here, especially since it may be seen as shame to seek help. I've gotten help when I needed it and am thankful that I did. 🤙

[@plynn136]

@@HelloFromHawaii Mr. Oda ran a business. "Unpaid taxes" covers a lot of ground. Whichever agency that was pressuring him for payment would also offer assistance in paying off the obligations. I am curious as to why Mr. Oda thought he would go to jail for unpaid taxes. In any event, this is a very sad (though common) story on the mainland. Thank you for caring and I hope you are feeling better. I just found your channel and plan to keep watching. Take care.

[@mimi34567]

I'm so sorry for the community. My condolences. God bless you. You have a good heart. Sending love to you and your family. ❤

[@matthewarine1231]

Thank you for sharing - I'm in the same boat as you and I don't think it will escape my mind for a while. And coming to terms that we will never know why. I think it's important to highlight that it still seems taboo for local people to get help through therapy - as opposed to the mainland. So much is bottled up and although the signs are there, people are reluctant to or don't know how to ask for help. In some way, I hope this brings to light the need for people to seek help before it's too late.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

I think we also need to make sure we let people know where they can get help if needed. I wouldn't know where to begin if we were in big financial problems.

[@riansfn5380]

You are brave and courageous for opening yourself up!!

[@kithg]

It’s a shock to be taken in and absorbed. Especially hard for children, I think, but really for anyone who sees any parallel in their own situation, no matter how small. Like yourself. I am so sorry about this loss for the community, as well as the family.

[@raymondnicolajr.7323]

thank you for your heart felt discussion. I too am very saddened over this situation, Aloha.

[@Randombutterfly29]

Thank you for sharing. Like you, this has been heavy on my mind. If anything, I hope this helps bring to light the lack of resources, mental health services, the stigma society has on getting help for mental health reasons and how something needs to happen to help people survive financially.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Agree. The help is out there if needed and I'm sure it's needed by more people than we'd like to admit.

[@bw5277]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I live on the mainland now but get back home as often as i can especially since retiring. Trying to think why Mr. Oda and wife did not sell off homes and downsize. Public schools would have saved a good sum of money. etc So incredibly sad.....

[@pattsaso5721]

Thank you for your vulnerability and thoughts about this heartbreaking news story.

[@brockjennings]

From what I read and saw on the news, the husband had a chiropractor business going through some rough times. Moreover he became very moody and distant to his employees and patients as well. The signs of depression were there, but was not addressed before the unthinkable happened. My condolences to prayers go out to family and friends.

[@rudolphrodolfo1323]

Prayers to the family🙏🏼 This is a shock being away from Hawaii a long time. Stay positive brother 🤙🏽.

[@JeanneFerrariamas-sr5ml]

The situation is if impossible to comprehend-I believe you are right that we are all capable of incomprehensible acts,depending on circumstances -thank you for your video

[@jorgej5916]

not just you. most if not every man of the house in the mass can see the parallelism of this tragedy . The economic condition in the past 4 years hasn't been friendly to all American families. This is particularly the case for the Middle class like ourselves with the notion that any bit of financial slip-up will cause us to fall into poverty. Just remember that A real man of the house can afford to loose face but shall never loose his family no matter what. There is always solution at the end of the tunnel.....ie declare bankruptcy, live below the means for a few years and pay back debt accordingly. Your family will respect you for that from the bottom of their hearts, if they don't, then that's ok too because you're the Man !

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for your comment 🤙

[@tednguyen7258]

you should live below your means even if your doing well.....

[@tatankahanska120]

I live in Montana. And I saw this on youtube. I grew up in Manōa and i figured it might have had to do with a financial issue. Living in Honolulu is tough with how much it cost to live day to day. This surprised me big time knowing something like this could happen in Manōa Valley of all things. Mahalos for sharing my Bruddah. ❤❤

[@tednguyen7258]

ca is also expensive ...people flick u off...people hate there lives ....you can feel it

[@LarLarLar36]

I think that what we’re all feeling is normal and a form of grief, and an attempt to make sense out of this, also a need for closure. At times our closure will come when we know more about this. HPD held a press conference today that provided many additional answers to the questions that we all have. I also had a dream about this a few nights ago and it frightened me a bit. May this family rest in peace and we all receive the comfort that we seek.

[@roro2k]

Paris Oda was my classmate on Kauai since elementary school going into high school. Never saw this coming. We weren't close friends or anything, but we were always good. Our last FB chat was about going to Japan a couple years ago.

[@minc4970]

A lot of pressure was on the father, although what he did was horrible. He could have endured. Afraid that we will see things like this more often. A polarized society we live in today.

[@Kimofry]

Hi! I just watched your video re:manoa tragedy! I’m a widow, local and I can relate to your thoughts! This tragedy has affected me too even though I don’t know the family personally! I really feel for the kids and mother! I had a nightmare (dream) too! I think about this since it happened! I believe he was just selfish and couldn’t handle his choices!!! I feel so much for the kids!!!

[@millieatcentralcagarden9764]

That takes courage to share your sensitive thoughts. It almost sounds like you have PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). I say this because you shared the story of the death of a classmate from highschool which you never forgot and now this horific trajedy of a man killing his family which is another tramatic event. Having nightmares now may be an indication that you may need to seek some counseling. I remember some of the triggers when I dealt with PTSD patient's in nursing school. Some people say that money is a tool which can be percieved as good or it can flip and be evil. The man in this trajedy was definitely not processing the reality of things and only was thinking about himself. He was falling rock bottom financially by not paying taxes and his office space but clearly not thinking he has a house worth over a million and a Tesla parked in his driveway. No one can know for sure whether it was a status thing to have these pocessions. He could have sold his home and downsized and sold his car. He could have relocated to another state like Nevada. In any case, his kids had defensive wounds which mean they did not want to die. This man was pure evil in every way. It shocks many of us because his action is not the norm to people who have morals or the right conscience. What this man did was murder his whole family. For many of us, we can only PRAY for his wife and 3 kids. Just my opnion.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for the comments. I'm not sure I have PTSD about the death of my classmate in elementary, but I had to process it on my own over the years. I just hope that the kids who knew the family have someone to talk to.

[@davidgabrie1302]

Saw this on TicToc, and apparently it happened because of financial issues. I have been physically and emotionally abused by my dad, and through the years I often have wondered how he could have done this to me, and hit Mom. To this day at 69 years old I don’t understand how a parent could abuse a Son, daughter, and Wife. I have gone through years of therapy to get me through my Childhood, and I am able to forgive him. He left us when I turned 13 so we never communicated after he left. This goes way beyond what I experienced, I am still alive, and they are not. There’s no justification for what happened, none. I imagine some type of evil, dark forces put these thoughts into his mind, compelling him to murder his family and himself. So sad this happened, praying for everyone. Aloha, Dave

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for sharing.

[@kelvinyschun]

In the rural poverty that existed in Japan before World War II, a father who failed in business or farming was expected to take his life--and his family's. "The whole family depended on the father; if he failed, there was no one else to take care of them," Yamada said. "The psychology of the father was, when I die, all the dirty worries of the world will fall on them. So I will take them with me." The concept thrives today in the concept of giri, or duty, of parents to support their families, Yamada said. "Giri plays a tremendous role in the psyche of the Japanese. It's the mentality that we don't want to cause a burden to others by leaving the children behind," he said. The idea that young children have rights separate from their parents' is still a weak concept here, according to Shigehiro Takahashi, a professor at the Japan College of Social Work who has studied parent-child suicides. Children are not only the obligation of parents but are considered their property, he said. "We have a basic admiration for all of nature, including life," said philosopher and historian Munemutsu Yamada. "But if a person faces the collapse of life, we easily go to the notion that it's okay to erase ourselves . . . and our family." This is a dark side of the culture that Japan does not like to talk about. In a country meticulous about numbers, there are few statistics on family suicides, but the available data show they claim the lives of more children than any other form of abuse. Such deaths are cloaked in secrecy, and even the term "family suicide" is a euphemism for what in the United States would often be considered murder.

[@kelvinyschun]

@@GNMi79 Facts revealed: He told relatives in discussing his financial troubles that he “would rather die than go to jail” for unpaid taxes. Perhaps most chilling: told his wife in a text that they needed to take their lives and that “their children needed to come with them because no one could take better care of them than he could.”

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for sharing. I haven't heard about the term "family suicide", but sad that that term even exists.

[@user-k4d-e59mo28oc]

@@GNMi79 "Oda" is a Japanese name, though he looks mixed.

[@plynn136]

@@kelvinyschun Who told Mr. Oda that he would go to jail for unpaid taxes? No one goes to jail for unpaid taxes. There are many taxes associated with a business and there are personal taxes due from a business owner. I have wondered which taxes Mr. Oda was not paying-one or two or all? Unfortunately, it sounds like Mr. Oda did not understand how to work at his profession and run the business side of things nor seek professional advice.

[@louiecarlos7331]

Im in LA and I move felt the same way! All week! Last Sunday, we went to church and enjoyed the day! This family lost their lives that day. I’m a dad of two kids and our son is in in Oahu for school. Life is tough here in LA! Expensive and the cost of everything… is a challenge! I wish he had someone to go to, someone to talk to. It’s tragic! Maybe we can all be a good friend to those next to us and try and avoid it? My heart bled for the fire in Maui and it bleeds of sorrow for Oahu! I pray for the surrounding family! Maybe it’s a great time for Oahu to embrace those family members! To really embrace them and express the true Hawaiian love!

[@irayz2677]

It’s a selfish act. He had many choices. But he only thought of himself. This is how i see it.

[@garypasseno374]

They are out of control obviously. They keep it to themselves sadly. They are not like us in a case like this 🙏 🤙

[@tracyalan7201]

Mental Health occurs to many people when faced with problems that they can't see viable options that overwhelm them. It might occur from internal or external actions that they have no influence, or it could be a cumulative set that happens. If people are given enough pressure with no options that they accept or perceive, suicide might be the action that they take for a variety of reasons (fear, shame, pride, guilt, concern of others). In wartime, we've read of our service members, horribly wounded or near, committing themselves to certain death in protecting others, we call them heroes. They might have been captured or escaped. We read of civilians escaping American forces in the Pacific jumping with family members from cliffs than surrendering. Law enforcement, lifeguards, medical personnel willingly risk their lives to save others from danger. We watch westerns where pioneers with family members unable to continue capture from marauders knowing the treatment of capture may inflict opt for such actions. Fear, separation, shame, guilt, anger are emotional pressures that individuals don't always think rationally whether short or long term, which willing to accept help, seeking help on their own, or experiencing no help from others requires someone able to and willing to listen/help.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

We'll have to wait and see what comes out as the investigation continues.

[@dianabeurman364]

AGREE! NO PITY FOR HIM!

[@roninmusashi2024]

Thank you for your genuine feeling of concern. This is what I think of why he did it with two words, ikka shinju or family suicide. It was not out of selfishness or anger that Dr. Oda killed his family, but the contrary. He deeply loved and was devoted to them so much, that he didn't want them to suffer any hardship, guilt or shame for not living up to the American dream. Although the act was violent, the origin was from a place of profound compassion. People in, or originally from Japan will immediately understand this. As a side note, as local families are being out-priced of their homeland, the social ills are becoming more acute. I wish I had the answer to save my Hawaii.

[@u4tubular]

Thanks for sharing. I think you helped others without knowing it. Grew up in the valley, also used to have friends and relatives near the homicide scene. Weird that I also had an elementary school classmate literally drop dead while playing. And yes, as a parent I cannot even imagine doing that to my kids.

[@wesleychun3058]

Tragedy affects all and how close it may seem with circumstances. That is why if there are times we are stressed to talk or seek help somewhere. So important.

[@suzannetanaka4950]

Take care of yourself so that you can take care of your family. We happen to be visiting home (Hawaii) when I read the Star-Advertiser headline. I was shocked and within minutes I was told that a family member’s friend was related to the family. Then another friend said his son was in the same class as the youngest son. Hawaii is such a small community and someone always knows someone. We talked about this tragedy and wished the dad made a different decision. I can’t imagine what this family’s extended family are going through right now. We’re saddened but this family’s relatives are going through so much more. Live Aloha. We see less and less Aloha every time we visit home. It’s hard surviving in HI. I ❤ HI but I’m glad we left the stresses of surviving (not living) there. Now we actually enjoy visiting home because the traffic and cost of living are temporary and not everyday.

[@CharleneLum-pd3ye]

Thank you Chris for bringing this topic into the light. Something as overwhelming as this (knowing the kids or having a connection with this family) can affect us later (at any point in our lives). I think the DOE did provide the opportunity for assistance from their behavioral staff. Being able to recognize how it affects us and to seek help is important. Even for parents to recognize changes in their child’s behavior. So thank you for bringing that a subject in a sincere way.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Glad that the students have access to those services, if needed. Mahalo for the comment 🤙

[@Aloha4Maui]

Well said. Ive also had to think about them all week, especially the impact it has left on all those school kids. Hard to wrap your mind around as an adult, how hard is it for kids??😢

[@spang9782]

I have a theory, as wacky as it might sound, about why you/we are thinking so much about this. I believe that because we live on islands in a relatively small community, we really DO have a sense of 'ohana where we all take care of each other. Yes, the occasional fights or crimes, but overall, we have that small community sense. And sometimes, because we are so geographically isolated and often have unique problems (i.e., higher shipping costs), we sometimes feel like it's us against the world, or at least the mainland. It's why we always cheer for local people who manage to get notoriety or success on the mainland like Marcus Mariota, Jasmine Trias, the LLWS teams, Kolten Wong, Keanu Reeves, etc. We may not know them personally, they may not have gone to your school, or you have never met them personally, but because they are from Hawaii, we feel proud of their accomplishments as if they are you own brother, sister, or cousin. Like part of our FAMILY. And likewise in this tragedy, we also feel as if they are part of our family, and why did they do this? It's your whole mantra of what it means to be LOCAL. The same could have happened anywhere else in the word, and we'd be like, "Oh, how sad." But because it happened here, to one of US, we feel the deeper connection.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for the comment. Maybe part of it is the island community and closeness, even if we don't know the party personally.

[@ag5415]

Well said. I think this is why it’s so challenging to process the event and unfortunate loss. For many of us we have family to lean on. If we got into a horrible spot financially the family or maybe even community would come together to help. Our “ohana”. Blood or not. The manner in which this occurred is also horrific. We as humans inherently “see ourselves” in other humans. I think many of us can’t even imagine thinking of carrying an act like this out against our own. I saw some comments here that said , and I’m paraphrasing “we need to stop blaming mental health….this man was just evil” and “every man has their breaking point”. This is just more of our personal human understanding and how we “explain” such a tragedy to ourselves and others. It is at the end of the day what appears to be a psychotic episode. The psychiatrist who commented saying they’ve seen this and if help was sought out it sooner it could have been prevented is correct. Bravo to you for putting your thoughts here out on YT. It’s important to have discourse after a tragic event to process. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not we all experience varying degrees of PTSD. Seems disrespectful to use that acronym since it is often associated with persons who have gone through war , and who are we but spectators. We are human and we love and care and desire safety and shelter. When we witness or hear of events that go against this it just plain messes us up. Its wrong. We might wonder, could someone I know do this? If I was his friend , colleague or neighbor , could I have seen it coming or helped? We will never know. I was born and raised on Oahu but Im on the mainland currently. There was a mass shooting at a mall near us. It happened a year or so ago. Ive lost track. I still cant go to that mall. The gore and violence that took mothers away from their children and children away from their parents is difficult to comprehend. They stood in the same spots I’ve stood in , just walking into the H&M. They interviewed that father on the news who drove out to pick his 5yo son up moments after it occurred, the boy was found protected underneath his dead mother covered with blood. It was surreal to see the reporter also sounding “in shock” asking the dad if the son was “OK” and saying “I guess it’s going to be hard for him” , such an out of touch thing to say in comparison to what had just occurred. The father just said , “yes , he will be ok”. The family was from India. Thinking of their situation being away from their country and coming here to work made it sting more in my mind. We all process and grieve differently and as long as we aren’t hurting others there is no wrong way. I think of a native american saying (I cannot recall the tribe) about allowing people to grieve however they need to, more of the translation alluding to how we temporarily lose our minds in that process. It’s OK. We all need to observe and grieve. Life is indeed precious.

[@GoldenState408]

sad part is.... its not getting any better. End of Times Brothers and Sisters...

[@ag5415]

@@GoldenState408 💗 If history tells us anything BC (before christ) as well as our scientific hypotheses thus far. Humans always think the end is nigh “when the streets get hot” in hood terms : ) Its ok. Life is meant to be learned from and it is difficult at times. We all learn from each other and ideally help each other. We also don’t stop doing this just because the world becomes scary. Science tells us that we might be just one “cycle” of civilization and we will eventually end and another cycle of will begin. Many religions reinforce that we are too small ( mere mortals ) to comprehend the plan of the creator and our task is not to live forever but to always seek “god” , ask questions and learn. We aren’t meant to cease living learning and loving each other in the wake of catastrophe but to become closer. There is definitely more beauty in the world than not and life was arguably more difficult before our modern times. It was also more simple. Technology has made it so we can experience a concentrated beam of bad news if we choose to. This has become too easy to do. I don’t believe our tiny brains are designed to process it all. Despite all the negativity I believe in humanity. I don’t think there is any other choice.

[@louiselebrun8188]

Aloha... and thank you for choosing to deviate from the expectation and embrace what has emerged. I relate to all that you share. When these things happen (and they are happening with increased intensity, density and frequency),we presuppose that this one man’s actions were a deviation from his ’norm’ and we ask ourselves: “How could he do this? What could have made him behave in such an aberrant way? “ Rarely do we go through our day - any day! - and ask ourselves: “How come I see the world the way I do? What is the platform for my judgements of that which is good/bad, right/wrong? “ If we do not know ourselves when we are ourselves, how can we ever know ourselves (or anyone else) when we deviate from the ‘norm’? And more, would we even notice the presenting elements as we are changing? I am 73 and have lived a long time to see many things. I have never witnessed - until this time - such a co-ordinated and 24/7 campaign to control the perceptions and behaviours of the masses (globally) as I have since 2020. We are all affected. We are all changed… and have not yet noticed how, having changed, we are now changing the world around us. Gobbledigook? Only if you are oblivious to the decades upon decades of perfecting the perceptions of the masses. Mind control is alive and well. Consider this conversation on the current technology in use for such outcomes: www.thehighersidechats.com/joseph-p-farrell-microcosm-medium-the-cosmic-implications-of-mind-control-tech/?highlight=Joseph%20P%20Farrell Who knows what affected this one man’s mind that he could be so swayed to be NOT himself? Perhaps our greatest defence against such tactics is to better know ourselves.. now… while we have both the desire and the ability to do so. We are not powerless to hold our ground in such conditions... unless we choose to pretend none of it is happening. My heart - and appreciation - goes out to all who are awake and sensing that something is not right...

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for sharing. I appreciate you mentioning the importance of knowing oneself. 🤙

[@lindaanderson6001]

It's pretty incomprehensible 😢 As Parents, We look after our Kids, first & foremost. 💔

[@mamafromhawaii]

I heard the story but it only hit me on Saturday and like you, it was on my mind a lot. The only conclusion I can come to is that his mental breakdown had pushed him to the point of doing the unthinkable. Truly heartbreaking. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving us a place to share ours as well

[@d4n1eeeeeee]

as someone who was knew the family for years i miss them so much

[@2-old-Forthischet]

What a story. I heard that monetary issues might have been the reason but whatever the case is, spare the kids. The kids deserve a future.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Yeah, the fact that this event involved the kids is tough.

[@georgecavendish1504]

You people assume anything that you want. You don’t know the circumstances and you or anyone don’t know what happened and assuming and gossiping. Look at how pathetic you people are? Why not pray for happiness to the souls instead of assuming and gossiping like high school girls? Get a life.

[@kalkeikuu]

A lot of people in Hawaii ask why this happened. The poor guy snapped. He was a chiropractor struggling to survive financially in Hawaii. He had to take a second job with UBER to try to help his financial situation. It sounded like he was a good family man, a protective father, a husband etc. Yes, I asked myself why would he harm his children if he loved them. It sounded like from late last year, he began to slip into depression from the financial pressure here in Hawaii. The more the higher cost of living in Hawaii, the more crime we will have here. Our government, HECO, and big players in Hawaii need to stop putting financial pressure on us because people such as this man can and will snap, and we may hear of more tragedies in Hawaii. We aren't or shouldn't be their money-making machines. Enough is Enough.

[@lilylee5924]

This is tragic! There so many of this similar tragic incidents happening all over.There is definitely a mental health problem with many that others( family, friends, coworkers and neighbors )are not aware or realize. Why does the spouse and children need to be harmed? As we all ask but only the person that committed the act knows. It does ruffle peoples minds when we see in the news of this type of tragedy. May this family rest in peace.

[@BrettFovargue]

Yes, there is no sense to be made of this. I am not religious, but Hawaii is full of vortexes, good and evil. I am not from here but have encountered spirits when I lived in nearby Kaimuki. There was another similar murder in Kaimuki when a father murdered his whole family decades ago. Future tenants/owners had paranormal activity as well, and the house was finally demolished after it’s evil vibes were felt by anyone viewing the property. I have horrible money problems surviving here too, but this was much more than a money problem. I am a fourth grade teacher, so one of the victims is the same age as my students, absolutely devastating.

[@haircole]

As someone who often interprets dream, Dreams are very healthy

[@leternadia]

The most terrifying part is that the tenant living in the same house heard the screams at 2am and didn’t call police. Autopsy shows kids died of bleeding after agonizing for hours. My point with this is that domestic abuse is so common that people don’t call police when hearing a woman or kids being assaulted. This is a call to the community to do something when they see or heard something. Is common to heard about a cousin or uncle sexually molesting or physically abusing their children or beaten up their wife and nobody stepping up for help or calling police. Isabella Kula got kill after being repeatedly beaten and pull out of school. Neighbors and school system fail her. Geanna Bradley ,10, from Wahiwa was kill from starvation in January. Neighbors, family members, and school system fail her. An 18 months old baby died a couple of years ago by his father when high in meth. His friends who witnessed when he beat her up didn’t call police until next day when she was already dead. Friends and family fail her. The entire community is to blame when they see a child being abused and they rather look the other way because they don’t want to be involved. This is not about the economy, stress, mental illness, or any other factor but of adults not protecting the most vulnerable beings. Poor little children, they died so tragically. And this will keep happening over and over again.

[@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d]

It's worth bearing in mind Landlord-Tenant relationships, how much power and sway Landlords have --- and how easy it is to become homeless and destitute.

[@troyt8374]

We are in a mental health crisis. I have a few relatives and friends that have mental issues..from bipolar disorder to depression..it is becoming so common. In the big cities on the mainland this type of tragedy is happening almost weekly..so sad..sometimes you can't tell someone has a problem until it is too late.

[@al-lr3yv]

Thanks Chris. The really sad part of this tragedy is, I believe, that he told someone what he was going to do, and no one acted on his threat to kill his family over his heavy finacial burden.

[@Cletus_the_Elder]

Just like a sudden heart attack can take a man's life, I feel dark thoughts can seize a person's mind. Just like a heart attack, it had time to build up. Men have to learn how to dial things down, to decompress, and to seek help.

[@EvilTheOne]

WHAT PRICE A LIFE?! - The similarities with this an the other crimes that's happening around the state of Hawaii is that question, "what price do we place on life?" - Whether it's a stranger or our loved ones, what pushes us to the point where taking someone's life is an acceptable solution to any situation? - If standing on the side, when does someone intercede in a friend bringing a firearm to a place where a confrontation may occur?! - If standing on the side, when we see a person we know starting change their behavior to a more sullen, reclusive and darker tone?! - "My thoughts and prayers" is said way too much, and mine goes out to all that are still living and suffering in silence; who feel that they have no other outlet but to act out in aggression...PLEASE SEEK HELP...TALK TO ANYONE...AND IF THAT HASN'T HELPED, FIND OTHER SOMEONES TO TALK TO. Finding the ability to put one's emotions into words is a strength...especially during our weakest moments in this tough life we live...NO ONE IS ALONE. Preserving life take proactive involvement.

[@PhotoLukeHawaii]

Hey Chris thank you for sharing! As a father and husband I am still bothered by this and am angry at this man for doing this to his own kids to his wife! Even with more information at this time as to why this father/husband to me there's NO excuse for doing any kind of harm to your family! I maybe wrong with thinking this but how selfish he was to take the life of his children and wife. I don't care what the reason. He can take his own life. Murder suicide is the worse! If a person is not happy with things and just can't take it or deal with it, don't bring anyone else down with you. Just end yourself and leave everyone else out of it. Sorry that's my thoughts. I would also hate for someone to get saved from suicide only to later do something like this to the whole family later. Maybe it's okay to let some people go. Maybe I'm evil for thinking this way. #1 rule never do harm to your family! Never hurt or abuse your kids or your wife your parents or people! If you're mentally ill and might do harm to others, call yourself out and go seek help, talk to a profession about it, families call your families members out, friends call your friends out. With this said I know there so many variations of problems, situations, there no clear answer for all and there's no absolute one way to deal with everything. This situation is awful and super sad! All the kids friends will be forever scared by this, I know it has effect those closest to this family and also to the rest of the community! Thanks for letting me share too Chris, this has been bothering me a lot... Show aloha to each other! Please be kind and compassionate to each other everyone ❤❤‍🩹💯

[@rickdesarle9875]

i enjoy your channel and was thinking today about what you said, living with aloha unconditionally. Honestly thinking I'm not there but I do the best I can. This tragedy sounds like a family man was suddenly infused by a dark force. His neighbors talk about how plesant he was. That's the only way I can process it. Mahalo from Staten Island.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for the comment. It will probably take time for people to process the situation at their own pace.

[@donaldtrumpy5914]

Manoa Tragedy is really depressing..

[@patrickgambsky6290]

Yes it's bothering me a lot and I don't even know this family. But I know God is good and I know God is in control 🙏🏾

[@ZendreGlymph]

Chris, This broke my heart 😢💔. I can’t wrapped my head around how this Dad could do this to his Ohana. It hit close to home as well, I had a neighbor do same thing 13 years ago except his kids wasn’t home that weekend 😢. They still had to explain to the kids why the Dad killed the Mom then himself.

[@zekefister8294]

This story has been disturbing me for the past few days. Thanks for covering it with your reaction.

[@dennischen8887]

News outlets just released the motive. It was due to debt. He didn’t pay taxes for many years and had to take up a 2nd job as an Uber driver. Plus they found his cell phone text saying he’d rather die than go to jail for not paying his taxes and he will take his whole family with him. He even tried to get a gun but couldn’t.

[@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d]

Don't know the details, but I'd surmise that supporting 3 kids was really tough for Oda, especially these days when most can afford just one or two or none. Some of his patients may have been single moms with 4 kids, on child support and Medicaid. Oda was determined to put all this kids through private school. With 3 kids, the wife was probably a stay-at-home mom, not bringing in any income. Despite the name of his practice "Oda Ohana", he received no help or support from his parents or family; if anything, they probably chastised him for not being mature and responsible enough to "Keep up with the Joneses". And the final straw probably came when his wife decided to leave him with the kids and return to Japan.

[@rickchapman3051]

My kids are in there 30s. I couldn't fathom hurting them. This is truly someone who needed help. To see this as the best solution shows there were some serious mental challenges happening. We tend to bundle mental illnesses into one big category. That needs to change. If we don't treat it at its unique place it will just get worse.

[@Hara.ryuzaki]

I cant believe I’m seeing videos on what happened to my best friend. I can’t believe this, seriously. Seeing her face all over the news is slowly driving me insane.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Sorry that it happened to your friend.

[@tjernst6488]

News said; Debt. That’s a constant stress, you keep telling yourself it will get better.

[@MKKSeabreeze]

Very tragic and heartbreaking. I can only pray for that family. Mahalo for sharing.

[@wMerlinw]

I can't wrap my mind around it either.

[@Keliiyamashita]

I couldn’t find my comment but I’m not really lingering on this tragedy. Since I don’t know them personally I don’t want this news weighing me down as it can due to the circumstances. My mom was in a sad state some years ago and I found she was watching the news religiously. She let a death of a person on the freeway make her sad even though she didn’t know the person. It could throw off her day for hours. She’s since pulled back and has gotten back to her normal joyful self. Now my family was in the news once. My aunty was stabbed over 30 times while eating a saimin in Ewa Beach waiting for her daughters to finish school. She died after crawling into a hair salon seeking help. It was all over the news and front page the next morning. It was in the news for several weeks after. Even on the night of the murder, reporters were at my uncles house interviewing him! Crazy right? It’s different when it’s someone you know… as it should be. I learned from that experience to hear the news and move on. Theres so much sad news out there, be careful consuming it cause it can screw with you. It is a deep tragedy what Oda did. But I don’t need to know all details. This is just me and how I process tragedy in the news.

[@raymondnicolajr.7323]

your hurt shows you have a kind heart.

[@garypasseno374]

Sad to say but the cost of housing, taxes, food and everything else is too much to handle in Hawaii. Everyone knows. Add a family and it can literally become impossible. Some people can't handle it. There has to be help for those in his position🙏 I've known 5 people that have taken their life. One beautiful lady on Kauai years ago. It happens to kids now. Terrible thing.🤨 🤙

[@alanlum9555]

The whole world is going through what is called an "ascension." This is a process where everyone is given the opportunity to develop and expand themselves in everyway -- physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. We are all challenged to grow by various and many different ways. Sometimes we meet the challenge and succeed brilliantly, and sometimes we fail miserably. This grotesque incident may cause us to examine our lives and life in general. It may lead us to seek the ultimate answers to life, just as the Buddha did, or the great philosophers did. Or we may just shrug it off as "nuts." Ascension, the very intense process everyone is going through now, is something we all are going through. May this incident challenge us to find the best in us and help us to grow spiritually!

[@guslevy3506]

The 5¢ psychiatrist would definitely tell you that you are frightened by the seemingly randomness of two men who are superficially so much alike, like the Manoa man and yourself, yet have veered into completely disparate paths. It’s almost like having survivor guilt, but also with the trepidation that the randomness of the event is somewhat frightening for you. I would tell you that you have nothing to fear because you and the Manoa man have one fundamental difference: He was obviously mentally ill while you are not.

[@reneedennis2011]

Thank you for this video.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

🤙

[@reneedennis2011]

@@HelloFromHawaii 🤙🏾

[@plu5five]

It was reported that the Motive was his Financial problems and he had text messages with his wife already in the past threatening to kill the family etc...Sad Case...thx for the vid

[@raiderfrankdatank]

Everyone has debt though. We all live in Hawaii. His ohana didnt deserve that. Its hard in Hawaii, that's why I have 3 jobs

[@nancydelu4061]

As a person who lived my first 18 years just off Maanoa Rd, I felt the same way when a house just by the old Jackson College burned down, and they said it was arson. Turns out it was the wrong house burnt down by semi-professional, dyslectict (?) arsonist who got the address screwd up. I had nightmares for months about how our house was burned and we had to live in an old hotel and eat musubi with no cherry inside.

[@wendelld808]

The human mind is very complex and hard to understand. As an individual if you can draw anything from this experience..hopefully you grow from it. Life still goes on ...

[@dukeloo]

The financial pressure of living in Hawaii? The country going crazy.

[@alexcarter8807]

This type of thing is pretty common on the mainland.

[@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d]

It's probably the "norm" in much of the "Third World".

[@tsmspace]

well one reason why it would bother you is that you live in the same environment, which means it is your community that produced the tragedy. People in this area are the ones who encouraged him to think like that.

[@222mmax]

TALKING ABOUT IT IS PART OF HEALING. IT'S IMPACTED YOU THAT MUCH I THINK YOU ARE HURT EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, SPIRITUALLY. WE CANNOT KNOW EVERYTHING AND WE MAY NOT GET THE ANSWERS BUT GOD KNOW EVERYTHING AND KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS. WE CAN PRAY ASK FOR FORGIVENESS FOR OUR OWN SELVES FOR THE WRONG THINGS WE FELT, SAID, WISHED, HOPED, DID. I THINK IT WILL HELP. GOD BLESS YOU. MARANATHA!

[@cinccave5459]

I'm not local but I've been here over 30 years and my wife is Korean not Japanese. Like you family is everything and my wife though now an American citizen could not function that well in this society without me due to marginally adequate English capabilities. That puts an additional load on you and maybe this guy with the financial load Hawaii puts on you couldn't handle the additional load. Because he killed his family though I'd have to rate him as evil. Feel sorry for his family but don't waste a thought on him.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

The financial pressures are hard, especially if he brought in the sole income. Still, it's just a sad situation.

[@jerrylim2282]

This is a wake up call for residents of the islands to be aware of depression from financial hardship. I think they should have a non-profit group or organization to help people in need of financial help.

[@susansmithey5317]

Please to anyone out there who hears anything even slightly despondent from anyone ever once, report it to authorities. Assume it’s true. Don’t be afraid to piss them off. Help is available. I’m so sad for everyone involved. And for the community.

[@russellanddebby4437]

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, because this has been on my mind too, and the same questions, thoughts, went through my mind. I didn’t know the family as well, but everytime someone brings this tragic event up I cry each time thinking about the state of mind this guy had to be to stab your kids. I have 2 of my own, and they are so innocent. Oh, boy here comes the tears again.. okay just wanted to tell you that you’re not alone and literally everything you mentioned was my thoughts as well. God bless you.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Yeah, I think it's tough as a parent and maybe why it hit me so hard. I just can't understand the frame of mind. Making this video helped, since it put to words all that I was thinking.

[@JuliaIshado]

My thought is that when a parent commits a crime or horrible error, the child or children suffer immeasurably. A loving parent does not want to see their child suffer and death is the way of saving the child from that long life of pain. When a parent sees no solution for their situation, there must be so much emotional turmoil, self hate, and self blame that the final act is one of uncontrolled rage within themselves. That's my take. This unbelievable and shockingly sad event has captured my attention. The news has provided no info that would indicate some shadowy past or motive. So, without God, the challenges of life can break us.

[@kai8085]

🙏🏽🫶🏽🤙🏽💪🏽😔😢 All aloha & prayers 🙏🏽

[@FF_AlohaEdition]

These things don't happen all at once. It builds up over many years. It prob started innocent enough that he rather not pay taxes than to have his daughter go to a public school which means will have his daughter having to lose all her current friends. It doesn't help the wife doesn't have any job skills to help out. Toward the very end not even selling their properties will solve his problems right away. I can see why it's hard on him. He's is also kind of ignorant if he thinks the IRS will put him him in jail for unpaid tax. Unless he's the boss of a crime family and committed tax evasion, the IRS is not going to put him in jail because jail cost alot of money to feed and keep anyone. Very misguided and many man on this island similar to him is prob the same. Remember it's just money. Life is more important than money.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Agree. Life is more important than money.

[@kalyanamitta8797]

This is why it’s so important to talk to someone else outside of the family, an unbiased counselor, Pastor, psychiatrist, or psychotherapist are all going to point out the poor logic and errors in his thinking. Mental health stigma is real still in Hawaii. Im a psychiatrist on the mainland. but I am from Honolulu and my family still lives there. No one talks about depression and psychosis. This needs to be addressed and maybe this tragedy will bring attention to this crisis.

[@naomiaki2962]

I've been deeply disturbed by the actions of this father. There was a shocking disclosure today that he discussed murder/suicide with his wife. He intended taking the lives of his children because no one could take better care of them. I can't wrap my mind or heart around this. The use of a kitchen knife to take the lives of your precious family I can't comprehend. I pray that we can learn from this horrendous tragedy and recognize the signs of mental crisis then make that important call to protect lives. 💔💔💔💔💔

[@franky-fr9ow]

I know its late but the wife and kids should of take action when they felt that felt threatened by him. But its too late now. 😢

[@gretelsia8775]

@@franky-fr9ow Indeed... If I were the wife, once I learned that my husband was entertaining the idea of killing us all, I wouldn't waste time but escaped with all of my children. He wouldn't see us again. This tragedy caused me nightmares couple nights, so I had to locate the house this morning and said my prayers for the eternal repose of their souls. :( So sad.

[@larry2513]

I could never understand suicide or killing your own family. It’s sad. I love my wife and kid more than anything. I wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to them and always try to protect them. It’s a tragedy.

[@haircole]

Praying it not contagious 🙏🏽

[@808sirenz9]

The poor kids were probably so scared and confused that they didn't run or fight back smh RIP to the wife and kids

[@tanakaofmark]

Normies will never understand.

[@mr808steelers]

Police said the husband had stab wounds to his chest... and saw the knife in his hand. To stab your chest and pull it out and stab your chest and pull it out again makes me wonder. How? The first stab would hurt asf. Let alone pulling it out and doing the process again.

[@MelissaYoung-ej6po]

I had a feeling Financial problems may have been an issue but I don’t think that is the complete issue. RIP I pray their souls find peace .

[@wasabiginger6993]

Although not an expert, my first hit was that it was a cultural thing ... and one commenter did a great job explaining it here. So it's impossible for the rest of us to ever understand. Take care to not get completely consumed by it please.

[@JohnnyAloha69]

I think there isn’t much to learn in the search for why. Some people will blame it on some political or socioeconomic reasons and while these might increase or decrease the frequency I don’t believe they are the main factors. Some people just have minds that don’t operate normally. These things happen all around the world and happen in good times and bad among rich and poor people. Two good reads that describe the descent into insanity and evil are Crime and Punishment as well as The Brothers Karamazov, both by Fyodor Dostoevsky. While written over a century and a half ago and in Russia the human mind is rather static. These kinds of awful acts seem to come from a mix of born with personality traits that get amplified by stressful circumstances.

[@HelloFromHawaii]

Mahalo for the book recommendations. Been meaning to read those two for a while.

[@michaellui74]

So so sad🥲 tragic

[@earlmcornell]

MISPLACED PRIDE…U know certain cultures set very high standards/expectations. When you can’t meet them, temporary insanity takes place & it can end up really bad. So when you see ppl with simpler lives or have less than you, don’t make fun of them. We’ll see more of this madness (sad to say) as the frenzied game of capitalism plays out, devouring those who can’t keep up. NO one’s exempt from tragedy.