Family, Medical Examiner issue official statements about Manoa murder-suicide

[@Manjeepo1]

She's very good, and professional. To be the spokes person for the department and to cover such horrific crimes has to have a cost on you mentally, emotionally and spiritually! especially when women and kids are victims of such crimes! Thank you! Condolences to the family & friends! RIP! We as Human beings have to do better! 🙏🙏🙏

[@luadiva]

My prayers for Naoko, Sakurako, Orion and Nana. They didn't deserve this.

[@Dawg99999]

and Paris

[@tina8796]

Having children and or homeownership's becoming unaffordable / unattainable / unsustainable

[@ManChan-w5p]

You have a good point. It is a dream that can turn into a nightmare.

[@Dawg99999]

@@ManChan-w5p the worst kind

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

i have a former client friend that is also divorced, who told me to stay single and dont have kids.......it will make life a living hell!

[@crimescenetalk]

Its unbelievable how many murder-suicides there are nowadays. Its really tragic

[@ManChan-w5p]

It is is dream that can ultimately turn into a nightmare.

[@sarahrose4126]

Heres all the details that simply do not add up for me . 1.) This alleged witness statements do not add up for me and do not seem to match the neighbors statements. First of all , this alleged " witness " does not have a US phone. They have an " international " phone Ok. So who is the mystery, alleged witness that allegedly heard " screaming " at 2-2:30 in the morning that nobody else ten feet away heard ? How credible is this witness when she didnt dial 911 at 2 in the morning when she first allegedly heard screaming nobody else in the neighborhood heard , although she well knew there were minors in the home ? What kind of " woman " does not have the courage to dial 911 from the safety of a locked bedroom when children could be dying right next to her ? 2.) This alleged " witness " then claims she was too scared to walk out of her bedroom at 8:34 AM although police were literally feet away knocking on the front door ? Really ? The windows are mere feet from the front door. She didnt think to yell out, " Help !! Theres blood outside my bedroom ! " To the officers a few feet away from her ? Really ? This womans credibility has now gone from low to zero for me at this point . 3.) The woman then alleges that instead of yelling out to the officers who were roaming around the property from 8:34 to 9 AM, finally waits for all the officers to leave ( Sure ,that makes sense ), and then crawls out of a second story window ( What ? ) and then waits until 9:15 to dial 911 again . What ? If she was truly afraid for her live, i would think she would have run madly to a neighbors house, and then dialed 911 from the safety of a neighbors home. I'd love to see drone footage of this womans second story window and how she got down out of a second story window INSTEAD OF just calling out to the police during the 25 minutes they were feet from her window. 🤦. Ok. Here's what does make sense to me. In my opinion , i would find it credible that this woman could have been downstairs during this event. The downstairs neighbors allegedly flew off to Japan Saturday and allegedly " weren't home " during this event. ( That i might believe ). In any case, this mystery roomate with the " international " number probably did hear people walking above staging bodies between 2 and 2:30 AM. That i might believe . I dont believe there were any screams at 2 AM because theres no way this one mystery person heard screaming and no neighbors did. It is also not credible to me that she sat in her bedroom and watched the police crawl around the property and not yell out if this was a real murder / suicide scene. I would guess that perhaps she thought the front door was open and the police would just walk in and see the bodies. But the front door was locked . She may not have known that, so she had to call back at 9:15 AM and appear outside the house to give this ridiculous story that literally makes no sense whatsoever . Everybody else can buy this story , but the more i hear, the less i find the current narrative even slightly credible.

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

If one day, there is a community fair and HPD has a booth, and detectives or CID personnel are there, only then will i ask them if the Manoa scene, the home of the homicide, if (per LT Deena) they surveyed security camera footage inside the house.....and it showed the dad committing the crimes.....I rest my case (of speculating that another party did the crime against the dad who watched in horror).

[@emilyl1094]

It was weird that the tenant heard loud screamings and all the happenings outside her room between 2 am to 2.30 am but she didn't call the police till 8.34 am when blood was seeping underneath her room door. Those people didn't die immediately but slowly bleed to death within a couple of hours according to the medical examiner. Does it mean that if the tenant had called the police at 2 am to investigate about the screaming in the house, the murder could be stopped and the injured sent to the emergency immediately and survived? RIP to the Oda family.

[@gretelsia8775]

Could not agree more with you. So sad. :(

[@KrickettePacubas]

She probably didn’t want to make any sound and wanted to not believe her worst suspicions. The killer could turn on her if he heard that she was awake. It’s also the middle of the night. She probably couldn’t figure out what to do or when it was safe to come out until the sun came up and it felt safer

[@ampinghard111]

The exact same thing happened in the Idaho 4 killings. It’s a response to trauma that we see mostly with women. Their reality becomes an intrusive thought that they fight off because they don’t want it to be real. They don’t want to believe that what they heard was an entire family being brutally murdered.

[@ManChan-w5p]

Monday morning quarterbacking.

[@sarahrose4126]

​Are you listening to yourself ? What kind of woman knows that there are three minors in the house and ALLEGEDZkY ( allegedly being the key word here ) allegedly does not dial 911 immediately to make sure the children are ok ? That's not credible. It's also not credible because she had a cell phone. She could have texted anybody in Hawaii ( or Japan , if this woman was Japanese ) and had them call HPD and let them know minors were in danger. Her story is completely not credible. Period. I'd like to see her be forced to do a lie detector test. I seriously doubt she'd pass it. ​@@KrickettePacubas

[@davec3651]

Sounds like the mother was at least partly in on it. A sane mother would not even discuss such things. Also, who is the relative who heard of these ideas? I understand believing things would never actually go that far, but that kind of talk of taking the kids with them and torching the house is pretty serious and alarming to say the least.

[@gretelsia8775]

If I were the mother I wouldn't waste time but escape with all of my children the moment I learned that my husband was planning to kill us all. :( I would love my children more than I would love my husband.

[@KrickettePacubas]

To me, it sounded like he was saying that, but nothing to indicate the mother was complicit. She was giving another option of moving to Japan.

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

asian moms differ.......moms who are born and raised in Japan are probably way different than local born-raised or mainland US japanese women.

[@jorgej5916]

Live for your Family and not for others. Live below your means and try weather thru this economic turmoil ! Rather Loose face than to loose your own family......

[@DanielYang-mr6wl]

Why would the tenant not call police at 2am when she heard the screaming but wait until 8?

[@KrickettePacubas]

Put yourself in her shoes. She heard screaming and didn’t know what was going on. She didn’t know if a killer was still around and probably didn’t want to move a muscle or make any sound to indicate her presence or that she heard, because he might then come after her. When daylight arrived, she probably then had the courage to call 911 since it had been a while and didn’t hear any more noises. It’s not very hard to take a minute to try to understand what that tenant may have been experiencing.

[@sarahrose4126]

Good question. Makes no sense, does it. It also makes no sense that nobody else in the neighborhood heard any screaming except for her. It's also strange that she claims she dialed 911 at 8:30 AM , the police arrived at 8:34 AM , and although they knocked on the front door, she allegedly didn't have the common sense to call out , " Help !" When they were a few feet away. Allegedly the police walked around the house for 25 minutes and yet she never called out once , " Help " ? Really ? She then claims she waited until the police left ( Why ?) and then climbs out of a second story window ( That's much safer than just calling out to the police between 8:34 and 9 AM ) and then waits until 9:15 AM to call the police again. Her story does not add up . None of this does. I hear the polices version of this story, it just doesn't make any sense.

[@mr808steelers]

​I'm pretty sure she knew who the killer was. @user-fv5xh4sk8m

[@KrickettePacubas]

@@mr808steelers I never said that she didn’t.

[@KrickettePacubas]

@@sarahrose4126 was it a second-story window? I assumed the tenant lived downstairs because neighbors said the family lived in the upstairs of their house. It makes sense to me for only her to hear it because she’s in the same house, vs others who are in their own homes so there is space and another set of walls between them. It was also the middle of the night, so it may not have been loud enough to wake up other neighbors.

[@LaniPoepoe]

My sincere condolences to the victims of this horrific yet senseless tragedy! Many points in this tragic event makes zero sense. “Tenant” heard screaming between 2:00-2:30am, was too scared to exit her room which appears to be on the same floor as the family because later she claims blood was spilling into her room from under her door. First question: Killer knows she is there because she is their tenant who rents a room in their home, SO why didn’t he kill her too? Or kill her first so she won’t be able to alert the police and stop his plan to murder his whole family in one evening? Obviously, in an attempt to murder 4 individuals in separate rooms, someone is bound to start screaming, run, or call the police, all of which would hinder his plan. Secondly, why did she wait 6 whole fricken hours to report the incident? She could of save their lives. Their deaths occurred over a few hours of time, slowly bled to death. Thirdly, why didn’t she at last open her window and yell for the police when she saw them outside the home? They walked around the exterior for a god 20-25 minutes and left. She waited an additional 15 minutes after they left to call 911 again. Additional questions: Why is it that no one on that family heard the others screaming and booked it out of the house, or called 911? It has to take a good amount of time to kill 4 people with a fricken knife, each one displayed signs of struggle and multiple stab wounds. At least one person should have had a chance to run, our pound on the door of their tenant, alert a neighbor? And the “suspect” has multiple stab wounds to his chest. I couldn’t imagine stabbing myself more than once in my chest no matter how much I wanted to die. And still land on the floor with the knife held in my hand. Really?? Wow! This is way too suspicious. I sincerely hope these innocent family members receive the proper & thorough Justice they deserve🙏🏼 Might want to check if the “tenant” has her name anywhere on the deed to that home or bank accounts. On another note, not only guns are used to hurt or kill, so do knives, hammers, vehicles, hands/fists, baseball bats, machetes, etc. Guns nor any of their tools are the murderer, it’s the person on the other end of the murder object. If Government was right that guns should be banned, then should they ban cars, knives, hammers, swords, machetes, baseball bats, golf clubs, etc.? This incident involving murders by one knife shows that it’s not about guns but about evil, deranged people commit murders and NOT the weapon; weapons come in different forms which are TOOLS used to hurt or kill people. Government must leave our 2nd amendment rights alone! We will not be a defenseless society. Someone could of stopped this murder from playing all the way out if they had a gun. May the victims rest in peace 🙏🏼

[@myday6806]

I thought the same thing, especially the father allegedly stabbing himself. Im also wondering how could a family man hunt down his family and kill them in the worst way possible? The tenant waiting till 8 to call make absolutely no sense. Hopefully the truth will come out tho

[@travisgrant5608]

Just cannot imagine the absolute horror that those kids and wife went through.

[@v2pham]

Those poor children 😢

[@shwnshts9469]

This is a weird very very detailed and tbh kinda presumptuous narrative for a slain family that doesn't include the PERSON LIVING IN THE HOUSE with them. I mean he was selling a house...equity liquidation isn't really something you begin or have if you're this desperate. They had family annihilation convos over text? He didn't have a bankruptcy lawyer after his lawsuit settlement? Who is gonna take over his assets?

[@ManChan-w5p]

For some cultures murder suicide it is consider admirable to prevent further suffering towards others and oneself.

[@elainesalvador8011]

Wouldn’t neighbors hear cries for help 😮

[@jasestrickland1704]

Did you listen to the report?

[@jdisgood00]

Went there to pay my respects. Yes. The two neighboring homes are very close by. But it was 2am when most people are deeply asleep

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

neighbors can be inquisitive BUT when a scream is heard, they shut off and say "I dont wanna be involved"

[@oger_ROG]

Death in taxes and debt. Truely reinforced financial stability and be very responsible. Sad to hear alot of people in the u.s. to borrow and most cant cover cost. Amazing.

[@alanwilson2073]

Appearances, The Joneses, societal norms and expectations, The way of life here in America. By other factors, it seems he was very close to a solution with the sale of his properties. Pay off his debts including any back taxes, regroup, swallow his pride and head for a small quiet town on the mainland somewhere, and away from this insanity called Hawaii. This is a place for rich people and eats up the poor, the uneducated, the low and unskilled workers and the working class/middle class like nothing. There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of local people here who are, if not in the same circumstances, are very close to it. This incident will not be the last we see of this.

[@oger_ROG]

@@alanwilson2073 seen reports of how much in debt america is. I try stay away pay much of debt off, which Im glad will be debt free. I glad I don't own a house, and 30 yr mortgage is life payment in my eyes; id rather be debt free, investing, and living in my car or renting until opportunities arise. Thank your for your input, and reassure what I think too.

[@fil7763]

There should be an agency, public or private, that can support people or families with financial difficulties to avoid tragedies like this. Not paying taxes should not be reason to get imprisoned. Family murder-suicide incidents are increasing during this hard times.

[@JoMama23]

Why would anybody pay taxes if it isn’t crime to not pay?

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

when his business was slow, I heard that he had a receptionist that was rude to patients.....he shoulda told her to bail and maybe hire his wife to help in the office.

[@donaldtrumpy5914]

Honolulu is really a depressing place..

[@debbie1361]

Really odd the tenant didnt hear anything for hours and just called the police 6 hours later?!

[@donaldtrumpy5914]

Was that tenant Japanese ?

[@OneOfDaKine82]

Why didn’t the reporters ask about the background of the tenant?

[@jasestrickland1704]

I think it was on another channel, the tenant was actually interviewed. She was told that they were selling the house so she was in the process of moving out. Apparently, she was a very good tenant, and had lived there for years. Go check out the other channels for her interview.

[@oogabooga6346]

Oh, the people interviewed were tenants in another property. @@jasestrickland1704

[@KrickettePacubas]

I believe the interviewed tenant you’re referencing is at another house they owned in Aiea, not the one that lived in the unit at their home

[@meganguill9610]

How sad

[@SimplyShanti101]

Couldn't they have changed their living styles? or maybe downsized or something?.maybe his kids could hv attended public schools, made do away with expensive cars ,instead of annihilating all of his family members just cos he had owed heavy debts........just so sad & tragic .........

[@JoMama23]

Changing living styles isn’t gonna prevent him from going to prison for tax evasion.

[@JAHsh077]

I bet this chief is ready for a long vacation

[@Teresa-jj5mo]

😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔

[@meme-dh8ee]

So everything was based on financial problems according to the investigation? I still don't understand! it still seems like there is more then what was reported. To easily solved😮

[@shwnshts9469]

Ikr kinda reminds me of that odd murder suicide in waikele last year. Explained away without any explanation as to how they put it together just instantly had a story to tell. Where the guy rented a hotel room just to shoot himself after cleaning his car.

[@slatesandtakes_TV]

According to Doc's brother and a former employee, he was "allegedly" having an affair, too.

[@shwnshts9469]

@@slatesandtakes_TV where's this info? Because the same day of the incident before the family identity was published there were these creepy comments on all the local uploads implying the same thing. They amounted to disgusting "cheaters get what they deserve" sentiments. IDK what an affair would add to his motivation. If true the police would have probably found out this info relevant? If they had access to his phone to get the texts they quoted they would find this out too?

[@EdwardDePlaeII]

That’s so sad beautiful ladies taken early

[@clintchoyfoo6471]

How come officers in hawaii don't have body cams? Just wondering?

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

they probably did, but what they would SEE is probably WAY TO GRUESOME to show, even on YT.

[@Zoe-c9z]

This reminds me of the emergency guy that didn't turn on the warning sirens, during the wildfires.

[@Ainokea1988]

Its very heartbreaking she should of left him knowing what he was planning to do even though she tried talking him out of It.

[@eralare]

💔💔💔💔💔 🥺😭

[@stevec69]

good luck selling that Grudge house cant tell you how much I hate this story

[@claudialee3155]

So the tennant heard the screaming but didnt call the police until 830?

[@Creep842]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@David53D]

I remember a cop killing in Manoa in the late 1980's.

[@jdisgood00]

Troy Barboza

[@EdwardDePlaeII]

She ain’t nothing fancy but she’s good . Be safe mam and don’t worry about us you will be notified if any thing falls up high down to state

[@laurenurban3942]

Death is much better than living in poverty.

[@Teresa-jj5mo]

International phone? And ??? This is the 21st century, is it not! You couldn’t figure out how to call back 💔fail HPD 💔

[@davec3651]

So what did they miss in those 25 minutes? Nothing.

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

thats true....AS LONG as HPD or 911 dispatch has that area code with digits, they CAN make a call back......everythings computerized.

[@fil7763]

Hello ,1 percenters!!!

[@MarleneShelton-rt8bi]

This is a sad tragedy.Prayers to their families.😂🙏🌼

[@shwnshts9469]

Wait stabbed in the CHEST?? That's....a suicide??

[@sharong8511]

He still had the knife in his hand.

[@sudapratheepsen856]

Someone else did

[@KrickettePacubas]

Had no choice, as he couldn’t obtain a gun. Why couldn’t it be?

[@shwnshts9469]

@@KrickettePacubas because it's just not statistically normal. A lot of em actually survive such attempts. And he was a chiropractor meaning he probably would have enough knowledge to either do the deed quickly with less pain or another method like hanging or pills IMHO. It just seems odd. Outside of the husband being named the killer it reminds me of the Idaho murder case And while most of these tragedies do involve firearms we don't know the exact details around the gun request. Maybe he wanted a gun for protection? The text messages quoted by the cops don't specifically talk about a suicide pact. They might imply doing something drastic or wrong but who knows they could be referring to a situation with an unknown party.

[@KrickettePacubas]

@@shwnshts9469 police stated all four victims had defensive wounds. Why wouldn’t the adult male have any? I think he was desperate, and had been thinking about it for a long time but wasn’t quite ready, didn’t have the means he wanted to use, and something triggered him to do it right then and there, using what he had.

[@elainesalvador8011]

Is HPD attempting to cover up their mistakes

[@3dandyrandy3]

What a loser this guy was, I was in his office 3 weeks before this happened.

[@ddonlee]

You are a coward to say this when he is already dead. You will see alot of him in your sleep.

[@3dandyrandy3]

@ddonlee Don't worry I sleep well. He's playing this death before dishonor BS. That's fine if you want to do that.Just don't take your wife and kids with you. I was in his office.I talked to him and I could tell he was a loser then.

[@ddonlee]

@3dandyrandy3 I agree that he shouldn't kill his wife and kids. That's terrible , yragic and cruel. Cos he has caused unbearable pain to those who are living . The parents, siblings, relatives, friends etc.

[@ddonlee]

@@3dandyrandy3 was he an experienced Chiropracter in Hawaii?

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

@@ddonlee there's so much darn competition on Oahu ALONE......probaby in the PAN AM bldg would see way more than 10 chiropractors!!!!

[@redaawadallah4518]

Stupid questions

[@Hs000_00]

They have Japanese names. Are the victims Hawaiians or Japanese ?

[@myday6806]

Both

[@Hs000_00]

@@myday6806 oh ok

[@d4n1eeeeeee]

pretty sure naoka was from japan

[@Hs000_00]

@@d4n1eeeeeee oh ok

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

Since the dad is local, the kids are japanese americans by birth, and the mom is naturalized US citizen......but like ALL foreign japanese living here, they HAVE to go back to Japan to renew their Visas........I think

[@charlenemariecoraninmemory5130]

morticia adams needs to be more professional comb or brush your wig geeeezus

[@rajah3820]

Is there video evidence that he did??

[@Lilopusheen18]

As sad as it sounds, I strongly believed the mom played a role here as well. their oldest child had stab wounds in her leg, which rendered her from running away. the mom knew what was his husband thinking and sorta planning so she just played along this nightmare. The other theory is the dad gave them Benadryl mix with their food so he can kill them while they sleep. Check out Todt massacre.