TS808 vs TS9 - A Tube Screamer Duel

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The Pedal Bored

The Pedal Bored

4 жыл бұрын

A side-by-side comparison of the reissues of the original 1978 Ibanez TS808 Tube Screamer Overdrive Pro and the ubiquitous TS9 Tube Screamer first released in 1981.
(For a more detailed dive into Tube Screamers, check out my comparison of four different TS style pedals: • 4 TS808 Tube Screamer ... )
Ibanez Tube Screamer Overdrive Pro TS808 (2012 Reissue)
reverb.com/p/ibanez-ts-808-tu...
Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer
reverb.com/p/ibanez-ts9-tubes...
Gear:
Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster (both pickups)
EHX 720 Looper
Boss Katana 50w amp (Clean channel)
mic'd with a Sennheiser e609
into a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Recorded in GarageBand, edited in Final Cut Pro X
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@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
It has struck me that this loop owes a lot to 'I'm A Man' by The Spencer Davis Group.
@patrickmckay6621
@patrickmckay6621 4 жыл бұрын
Great loop. Man you are the fastest poti-turner out there...
@smoochie3331
@smoochie3331 2 жыл бұрын
why the hell every time u switch to ts9 u always instantly switch to 8080? worst demo ever.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 2 жыл бұрын
@@smoochie3331 Glad I could help!
@smoochie3331
@smoochie3331 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored when u do AB test, you do AB test. Learn from other KZbinrs.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 2 жыл бұрын
You mean switch between the two pedals? I do that in the video :)
@burt2800
@burt2800 4 жыл бұрын
It's been said before but this is probably the best pedal channel out there. Love the visual themes, the informal writing and of course the loops. You deserve more subs
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
(misunderstands, gets in car, and drives to Subway)
@michaelskooma8537
@michaelskooma8537 4 ай бұрын
Just a pup lol
@bimscutney1242
@bimscutney1242 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Using a looper should be common practice with all pedal demos. Nothing worse when someone is comparing pedals and they don’t even play the same riff through each pedal! They just noodle around. Keep up the great work!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@briancoyne6700
@briancoyne6700 4 жыл бұрын
I can think of something worse: AIDS!
@itstytanic
@itstytanic 4 жыл бұрын
TS808/TS9/TSMini, just choose the one that fits your visual taste, pedal footprint, budget, or a combination of all 3 of those, cause sound-wise they're so close you'll probably not notice a difference between em
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
itstytanic 💯
@Steven_SK
@Steven_SK 4 жыл бұрын
itstytanic especially if not played side by side!
@michaelloomisiii3475
@michaelloomisiii3475 4 жыл бұрын
Or get a JHS Bonsai
@xjohn1970
@xjohn1970 3 жыл бұрын
Mini sucks
@itstytanic
@itstytanic 3 жыл бұрын
@@xjohn1970 Tube Screamer Mini is the exact same circuit as the 808. Besides size, there's nothing different between the two
@dt9r
@dt9r 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say that your channel and JHS one are the best around, thank you.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
That is high praise! If only I had Josh's subscribers and views I'd be making hundreds of dollars off each video!
@dt9r
@dt9r 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored matter of time
@robertharwood2456
@robertharwood2456 4 жыл бұрын
Genuinely one of my favourite channels. Your loops are always superb to boot! Agree - you deserve heaps more subscribers.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I'll take whatever I can get.
@liftedjsmith
@liftedjsmith 4 жыл бұрын
Now THAT'S how a pedal comparison video should be done! Nicely done, thanks!
@golivaguitar
@golivaguitar 4 жыл бұрын
I simply love this channel. Really professional work
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
If only it were 'professional' in the sense of 'paid'... :)
@neilwalshuk
@neilwalshuk 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great comparison and the text overlays are perfect. Great video.
@singhjag
@singhjag 4 жыл бұрын
This was the video i needed thanks!!
@angel2of7death
@angel2of7death 4 жыл бұрын
Love the layout of these vids. Beautifully filmed, incredibly insightful and fantastic demos all around. Sub'd
@jonny1251
@jonny1251 4 жыл бұрын
Loved how you put the video together. Earned a subscribe!
@vinnyg3990
@vinnyg3990 2 жыл бұрын
What a really great a/b of these pedals. Great job
@rodolfosrb3868
@rodolfosrb3868 4 жыл бұрын
You have one of the best channels on the youtube!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
You have one of the best comments!
@drtubez
@drtubez 4 жыл бұрын
This is how I like to hear pedals compared. right to the point, no talking, quick changes. Nice Thank you
@RonamaeJustine
@RonamaeJustine 4 жыл бұрын
Again, Great Video Comparison, very helpful😁 i hope tsmini is included on the next one. You deserve more subs. 👍
@DrMisanthrope
@DrMisanthrope 4 жыл бұрын
You are amazing! Best pedal channel on KZbin!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
No YOU ARE!!
@dakotahrivers6640
@dakotahrivers6640 3 жыл бұрын
You have found the perfect formula for a pedal review video. Congrats.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@denssession644
@denssession644 7 ай бұрын
Clear and concise comparison-useful for those navigating the world of Tubescreamers.❤
@bilalnachabeh
@bilalnachabeh 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video
@gunkanjima3408
@gunkanjima3408 3 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome demo
@mikekilbride4575
@mikekilbride4575 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. The loop idea is great. I subscribed =]
@lordgraga
@lordgraga 4 жыл бұрын
Wampler's video breakdown of the TS is awesome, the tonestack actually does add volume and gain!
@genhydro
@genhydro 4 жыл бұрын
OMG I love this channel!!!!!!!!!!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I love this comment!!!!!!!!
@vietnow4770
@vietnow4770 3 жыл бұрын
Just discover your channel today... I'm definetly a fan. Greetings from mexico
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 3 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Patiño Thanks!
@ReverendHellbilly
@ReverendHellbilly 4 жыл бұрын
Great .love your stuff.cheers
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Reverend Hellbilly **clinks glass**
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff !
@mrt77wv
@mrt77wv 4 жыл бұрын
As I've said before, this is the best pedal comparison channel on YT. No BS, no techno babble, just a loop and the pedals in question. I got my TS9 used on eBay a few years back for $70, and it looks like I made a wise choice. The 808 is nice for collectors, but the rest of us will happily use the TS9 without a second thought.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I'll take it as many times as you want to say it.
@hnatyshyn
@hnatyshyn 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@patchesthejaybird8431
@patchesthejaybird8431 3 жыл бұрын
After listening to several of these side by side versus videos, I decided to get the TS-9, and I don't regret it. Whatever differences there are, they are subtle. Not worth the extra $50 for the ts-808 in my opinion. However it's just an opinion, so enjoy which ever you like! I really like how the TS preserves the natural sound of the guitar/amp while just adding some extra drive, and if you crank up the tone, some extra edge. Oh, and also the great harmonic squeals that jump off the frets and out your speaker!
@gunjabeans
@gunjabeans 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, I like how quick and to the point this video is. I think it comes down to which looks better to you? However, it's worth mentioning the newer Maxons have True Bypass
@_RLP
@_RLP 4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it, bro'. Always a pleasure to watch. Keep up the good work, 'cause this channel is definitely gonna keep on growing. I agree- get the one that suits your taste/board/wallet. Cheers
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers! (We're drinking right now, right?)
@_RLP
@_RLP 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored No, but we can!
@LanceJordan
@LanceJordan 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job, I can hear almost no difference. I've had a TS9 since at least 1995, pure classic tone.
@afterstars
@afterstars 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Sticking with my Boss Super Overdrive
@gsanchez90
@gsanchez90 4 жыл бұрын
SD-1 for life🤘
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Now this gives me an idea for a video.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
DontListen ToMe The reverse! SD-1 is asymmetrical.
@drmarcioonida
@drmarcioonida 4 жыл бұрын
It’s just the same! Awesome videos! Don’t you have a channel for guitars with the same kind of approach? Would be great!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know how that would work with a looper though...
@davidsala9549
@davidsala9549 2 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!
@Nobody92421
@Nobody92421 4 жыл бұрын
I have both pedals. The 808 into a tube amp has less midrange hump and less compression. The TS9 pushes the mids much more. It's almost like adding a compressor to the 808. Actually... I have 6 tube amps ranging from 5 watts to 100 watts. They behave the same on all of them. I don't have a Katana. That said, good job as usual sir. Love you videos!!!
@thomdushane
@thomdushane 4 жыл бұрын
I dig the lo-fi jam, got me boppin my head
@BandanaManMonkey
@BandanaManMonkey 4 жыл бұрын
The Pedal Bored always delivers... keep up the good work.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I deliver. Just very slowly.
@DeadmanDance
@DeadmanDance 4 жыл бұрын
Best channel for pedal reviews 👌 and love that you also use a Katana💜
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Deadman Dance BOSS KATANA FTW! (If I had the money I'd upgrade to a Boss Nextone. No tubes for me!)
@DeadmanDance
@DeadmanDance 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored Wish I could try the nextone, to see if it has so much difference. Guess for the time (and money), the Katana series are good enough for me🤘
@user-vg8xq3ck8j
@user-vg8xq3ck8j 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored Why no tubes?
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Ивангай so much cheaper. No maintenance. And perfectly happy with solid state/modeling.
@VanWhyDesigns
@VanWhyDesigns 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid dude. I've always been curious of a shootout of the Maxon OD808 vs the Ibanez. To me, I've always like the Maxon better just not sure why
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
By all accounts, the only difference is the buffer - the Maxon is true bypass.
@duffman18
@duffman18 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought the Keeley tubescreamer clone because it was heavily discounted on one website. It's been a childhood dream for 15+ years to get a modded keeley tubescreamer so it was definitely worth it for that, though I do wonder how much better it'd sound side by side with any old tubescreamer. It does at least do more, because it has the regular tubescreamer setting and a "hi" mode which is Robert Keeley's original tubescreamer mod. It's the best sounding pedal I've ever had though. It just makes my strat sing. I can sound like SRV even through a cheap practice amp with it. Love it. Even makes my les Paul copy sound fantastic, very creamy. So yeah if it weren't for the childhood dream thing I would have just got a cheap tubescreamer clone from whichever company, but I'm very happy with this
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Is this the Red Dirt? Did you go big or mini?
@romarioibarra4063
@romarioibarra4063 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of comparisons and this is the best! Also, I own a "El Mocambo" Drive pedal by Tc Electronics, which is a TS9 clone. Sounds exactly the same, yet I reaaaaaally want a TS808 just because it looks awesome.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Romario Ibarra It does look pretty, doesn't it? The TS9 on the other hand is one of the ugliest pedals ever designed.
@druwk
@druwk 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Enjoyed the edge of breakup sounds. The mini is also supposed be nearly identical?
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
So I hear (no pun intended).
@stanislavmigra
@stanislavmigra 4 жыл бұрын
Seen couple of vids with TS Mini, TS9 and 808. There are very subtle differences (there will probably be even between two 808 anyway), but always prefered the Mini among others ...
@gator3g
@gator3g 4 жыл бұрын
How about a TS Mini vs other TS Style mini pedals?
@johnkurtz4064
@johnkurtz4064 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Demon TS clone with the TS9 and TS808 toggle switch. There’s definitely not much difference between the 2 except the TS9 is just a tad more sharp and the 808 is a little more round and fat. I use the 808 option a majority of the time. I’d go with the 808 based on this demo. Awesome job and channel!!!
@NicolaIIILombardi
@NicolaIIILombardi Жыл бұрын
I have just made a clone ts9/t808 with a switch. Change only 2 resistors but I can't listen the difference. Theorically ts9 has more bass than 808
@Bruhaha9
@Bruhaha9 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crab apples. Did you make this on speed? I can't read the blurbs or keep up with the switching, let alone contemplate the tones. Maybe I'm up too late.
@shanemarcotte2062
@shanemarcotte2062 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Ibanez TS7 Tubescreamer. Is it the same as these circuit wise?
@coldwar1977
@coldwar1977 4 жыл бұрын
Both sound very similar.... I'm not sure if it'd be worth the trouble to upgrade from my Bad Monkey... Thoughts?
@AmdusciasBaal
@AmdusciasBaal 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I've got a TS9, one of my friends keep telling me he prefers the 808, but really here the difference is really tiny...
@builderphill1361
@builderphill1361 3 жыл бұрын
Still varies all from amp to amp and amp settings and pickups and whatever else, if only everything was so cut and dry haha
@johnkurtz4064
@johnkurtz4064 3 жыл бұрын
To me they’re almost identical. The TS9 is just a little brighter.
@watchmangamer4380
@watchmangamer4380 10 ай бұрын
That's a really catchy riff! I wonder how it sounds like with fuzz.
@CaramelSons
@CaramelSons 4 жыл бұрын
Circuitwise the difference are only two resistors which do not effect the sound audibly. The slight difference you are hearing is most probably from the tolerance of the pots which can be up to 20%. Also, there will always be a slight difference in how you mount the knob on the pots. So aligning the knobs does not make sense. You have to see if you can make them sound the same by dialing. The might be the same difference between two 808s and two TS9s. :-)
@nathanharding5597
@nathanharding5597 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I was just stupid because I couldn't hear a difference before this video! I'd love to hear you compare these to the Bonsai Tree!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is... they'd sound the same!
@Bobby-wn5yr
@Bobby-wn5yr 10 ай бұрын
Man anyone arguing these two to death online needs to put on some monitor headphones and listen to this with their eyes closed. I just came to KZbin to research this because I spent my Saturday morning in a guitar shop comparing them with the sales guy telling me the 808 is creamier and less compressed and brighter and me not hearing it at all. This has actually made me realise they’re even closer than I realised
@emitchsr
@emitchsr 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if different amps bring out different characteristics of these two pedals I have played these pedals through the same amp but not in shoot out style and thought the ts9 was a little harder clipping and 808 a touch smoother. Could just be that my mind was made up before I even tried.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's impossible not to be influenced by the look, and history of each of them.
@ke72499
@ke72499 Жыл бұрын
I like the green one
@al271987
@al271987 4 жыл бұрын
Again, great demos. I also love any video that cuts through all the guitar forum crap and shows, though audio evidence, that the ts808 and the ts9 ARE THE SAME THING!!!! I love this style of circuit (the Boss SD-1 being my favorite version) but the placebo debate nonsense is endless on forums. Thank you for showing the truth.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna do a SD-1/TS9 duel too, I think, because despite the very similar circuit topology, they do sound significantly more different than these two.
@al271987
@al271987 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, those two actually do sound different. The symmetrical / asymmetrical clipping thing really does matter.
@thejonemusik
@thejonemusik 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and nice comparison. However, I want to mention that both the Ts9 and the 808 are not true bypass. That means even when switched of they alter the sound. On my one test I detected a loss of volume in general and around 70Hz. There if you test the pedals in series you will have the influence of both pedals regardless if you switch one or both of them on. Further, the order of the pedals is relevant. You have them in series. Therefore, the described effects might rather be caused by the order than the pedals themselfs. Regards, J
@tds2117
@tds2117 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you’re going to lose volume, I suppose you could do worse than 70Hz. That’s a fairly unnecessary frequency unless you’re running a bass into it, or you use your guitar for all the low-end.
@bradenrocha9067
@bradenrocha9067 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man what are you katana settings at? I have a katana too but the clean tone doesn’t sound as good this.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Clean channel, Gain at zero, Volume max, Master Volume to taste. EQ controls all at 50%.
@Diver114
@Diver114 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Sold on your review. Subscribtion!
@Gabitallico
@Gabitallico 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel! Could you try a test with humbuckers ?
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 3 жыл бұрын
I would if I could but I can’t because I don’t own any 😀
@spartacus2296
@spartacus2296 4 жыл бұрын
TS808 for me \m/
@zitnbit
@zitnbit 2 жыл бұрын
What an interesting review! 00:51 02:41. So, with Katana for the win?
@saddestchord7622
@saddestchord7622 4 жыл бұрын
My Tube Screamer broke and somewhere I have one of those nutube screamers but I don't know where it is, so I just bought the Behringer one. I don't tour or gig anymore and it sounds the same for $30, believe it or not. It's based on an 808.
@TheDilligan
@TheDilligan 2 жыл бұрын
So I closed my eyes on the TS9 and tried to see if I could tell when you switched to the 808. I could. Over and over. They sound so similar and yet.. I must be hearing something because I'm getting it right. It's like the clipping is different. Like how there is hard clipping and soft clipping - The Tube Screamer uses soft clipping but It kinda sounds like the TS9 is harder and the TS808 is softer.
@KevinDarty
@KevinDarty 2 жыл бұрын
You don't happen to have the original Maxon counterparts did a full comparison do you? Even the latest Maxon reissues use higher quality and more vintage spec components than Ibanez and Maxon actually made the originals so comparing then ask would be great.
@brainmurde
@brainmurde 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for comparison. Love your vid's, great work! Had both pedals, but sold them, now use JHS Bonsai, it is all overdrive's in one pedal.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Seven settings that all sound the same...? 😀
@brainmurde
@brainmurde 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored 😀 Tssss, you hear it? It's Josh Scott began to cry after your words!
@themixmusicandmore6280
@themixmusicandmore6280 4 жыл бұрын
I get how the 808 is a little sweeter tonally while the ts9 more edgy, but couldnt you just turn the tone down a little and have it be the same for 80 bucks cheaper?
@JoseFigarella
@JoseFigarella 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@MJ-lk2vk
@MJ-lk2vk 4 жыл бұрын
maybe the only difference, for me, is at maximum volume, I think the TS808 has a bit more sound output, otherwise they are very similar
@njcranes
@njcranes 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't tell the diff! So I got an East River Drive instead...
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Good choice
@shinjial
@shinjial 4 жыл бұрын
In this set up they both seem near identical, to the point that it's barely possible to tell the difference in a blind test. I got a sense they 'feel' different, something on the edges, a little smoother for one and crispy on the other. But it's negligible. Nice test!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
You certainly wouldn't notice if you didn't have one to compare to the other.
@shinjial
@shinjial 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored For sure. I could barely do it in this setup.
@silviolutti1522
@silviolutti1522 3 жыл бұрын
I can't figure out which of the two has lower. It seems to me that the Ts-808 has more bass, right? Can anyone tell me? The ts-808 has more bass and the ts-9 has more mids, right?
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 3 жыл бұрын
I think my conclusion was they were basically identical :)
@silviolutti1522
@silviolutti1522 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored I'm sorry but I don't find them identical at all. The ts 808 has a warmer, more enveloping, softer sound, I would say more natural and more balanced. While it seems to me that the ts-9 Is the much more tedious, angular and aggressive .
@tds2117
@tds2117 3 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic to me that the TS9 is brighter with slightly more low end at one specific setting, with everything else being virtually identical, but it’s supposedly the one. Reminds me of countless Rat LM308 videos. There’s no real difference whatsoever that can’t be made up for by just adjusting the filter on the modern one slightly, yet people keep modding it. I think most of this is just guitarists being pretentious. “It’s true bypass!”, say people who don’t realize how necessary buffers are. These are all just buzzwords.
@michaelinglis8516
@michaelinglis8516 2 жыл бұрын
2 things. All my pedal builds that require buffers utilize the TS9/808 input an output transistor style buffers as they are in my opinion hands down as good as it gets. Klon style opamp buffers might be more complicated but they aren as transparent as the ts9/808 buffers in every experience I've had with them. The ts9/808 buffers get in the way the least while still buffering the signal incredibly efficiently. And 2nd. The difference between an OP07 opamp and an LM308N in the Rat circuit is quite big in my opinion. The slew rate changes the feel completely. It's more apparent when done with other mods like red led clipping diodes or diode lift etc but still very apparent without them. I personally hated the OP07 in the new rats. I tried for 2 years to get on with it to no avail. It's too efficient thus too bright thus too brittle. And diming the LPF doesn't result in the same tone or feel as doing the same with an LM308N. Each of us has a different level of discerning ears. If you regularly build pedals the difference might be drastic compared to a beginner who's never played an original rat. Also modern rats are built with deplorable quality control and parts specifically the wiring and in some cases the pots etc. If you can solder they are worth fixing up though. I mod mine to have the stock option 1N4148 option, no diode, and 2 red leds (my favorite hands down) as well as swapping the OP07 for an LM308N but with the other mods the OP07 becomes useable just not as ideal tonally as a real LM308N. Also and this is important for a very versatile rat and it's what sets my modded rats apart. I add two on off on dpdt toggle switches. One for each network that controls the clipping character of the high and low end. So for both switches left is stock. If you put them in the middle it cuts out the respective high or low gain clipping frequency networks (so you only cut out one at a time). Cutting out the high end network gives you the classic ruetz mod. Cutting out only the low end network gives you just a higher end distortion/fuzz that is more like the stock op07 rat to my ears. Then when either or both are in the right position it selects a potentiometer (1 for each network, I use B1k's for each to good effect) this allows you to dial in the frequency of each network and it makes the rat INCREDIBLY versatile and so so so much more useable. Everyone who's tried it always sees it as a much needed improvement. Dont like rats? You'll be a convert after these mods. The pots allow you to dial in much warmer tones or brighter if youre into that sorta thing lol and everything in between. So you can ACTUALLY use it as a boost, overdrive, distortion or fuzz like it promises on the tin when you buy the pedal. As with many pedals the circuit is solid but it needed more parameters to control in order to really use it to its fullest potential. With those mods I became a proponent of Rats and I wasnt much a fan prior (although I did like bud box versions I'd played, specifically recreations of that circuit). Anyways take all this with a grain of salt, to each their own. If you're interested in any of those mods or would like to hear the finished pedal let me know and I'll try to put together a video. And for the mods I would happily walk you through it. But maybe you're already a builder, if so I highly recommend giving them (specifically the pots on the high and low gain networks but the no diode and 2 red leds a la turbo rat are incredibly useful mods) a shot. The no diode mod is a little bright on it's own but with the ability to shape the high and low gain networks through the pots you end up with an excellent boost in the no diode position. Anyways that's all lol.
@SRVMakis
@SRVMakis 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same, but i will go with the TS808 because i like the look more.
@user-dh8xu5di3e
@user-dh8xu5di3e 4 жыл бұрын
Capote? In Cold Blood? Why?
@jkf9167
@jkf9167 4 жыл бұрын
I can actually hear a difference if the amp is clean. I like the TS-9 more. It sounds a little brighter and more together. I can't hear the difference when the amp is overdriven.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. :) 808, baby - 808 ...
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Kieren Moore I mean it's much prettier, right?
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored - Lol, yeah ;)
@sunepedersen8537
@sunepedersen8537 4 жыл бұрын
with the drive at zero i find that the 808 sounds a lot cleaner
@bruhdamartinasty3636
@bruhdamartinasty3636 4 жыл бұрын
But isn't the point to make it dirty? :)
@sunepedersen8537
@sunepedersen8537 4 жыл бұрын
@@bruhdamartinasty3636 sure but the ts9 just sound fizzy and unclear. the 808 sounds a lot "earthier" if that makes sense
@bruhdamartinasty3636
@bruhdamartinasty3636 4 жыл бұрын
@@sunepedersen8537 Sure does. I gotta try it!
@umiloyayi
@umiloyayi 4 жыл бұрын
Ah shit here we go again. I wish you could've put at ts10 as well. But this is good!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Anima My bet would be... it also sounds the same!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Some Googling seems to back up my guess. Looks very much like the TS10 was just the TS9 with much cheaper parts. All plasticky with bits that broke easily.
@umiloyayi
@umiloyayi 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored ohhhh! Okay! But i guess those pedals differ in sound by what pedals you stacking it with. I remember John Mayer ditching the ts808 and ts9 for the ts10 to stack with the klon centaur. Idk man i hope i make sense. Just want to say good job and you are my favorite pedal shootout channel!
@duffman18
@duffman18 4 жыл бұрын
@@umiloyayi SRV also began using the TS10 immediately as it came out, replacing his 808 and 9. It's come back more recently, and is raising in price, because people are finding out all these famous guitarists thought it was better than the others.
@cuerdarota1391
@cuerdarota1391 4 жыл бұрын
Haz uno donde compares varios pedales que imiten el Morning Glory de Jhs!
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I did! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJaWd3yqgNOrbLs
@santiagoterrazas3279
@santiagoterrazas3279 Жыл бұрын
Me dio la impresión de que el ts808 tiene mayor dinamica y un overdrive ligeramente más fuerte. El ts9 me sonó más definido, pastoso pero ligeramente menos dinámico. Tanto el ts8 como el 9 son excelentes y si no se es un prodigio de la guitarra cualquiera de los dos nos viene igual de bien.
@SpiritxTower
@SpiritxTower 10 ай бұрын
Am I crazy or does it sound different when you’re actively turning the pots vs when you’re swapping? That could just be my ears adjusting. Overall I like the TS9, could be because I just like the look more and want to like it more. But some of the low end and high end pushes and bites it gives are more what I’d want. Seems to be a little more aggressive in the subtle differences.
@SpiritxTower
@SpiritxTower 10 ай бұрын
So around 3:40 I’m hearing more volume on the left and more gain on the right. Reaffirming what I was kind of thinking about the two, at least on the “bite” part.
@SpiritxTower
@SpiritxTower 10 ай бұрын
And more low end on the right.
@bruhdamartinasty3636
@bruhdamartinasty3636 4 жыл бұрын
What else is there (other brands) that competes with these?
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
D Martinez There are maybe hundreds of Tube Screamer pedals out there - every brand has one.
@bruhdamartinasty3636
@bruhdamartinasty3636 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored Let me ask another way. As a pedal board/bored expert, what is your favorite one!? Thanks.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
D Martinez If you take a look at my other TS video you'll see that I'm not really a fan of Tube Screamers 😄. The only ones I like are 'hot-rodded' ones like the EQD Dunes or the MXR Il Diavolo and I'm not sure they're really Tube Screamers to be honest.
@bruhdamartinasty3636
@bruhdamartinasty3636 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePedalBored Oh my - not a fan of Tube Screamers? Sacrilegious! The horror! haha. Who knows, maybe I really don't like them either. It's an ongoing sonic journey I guess. Thanks.
@CollegeKiddKelvin
@CollegeKiddKelvin 4 жыл бұрын
I’m leaning towards the Vertex Steel String over the Tube Screamer
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh. Interesting. That's a Dumble pedal, right?
@CollegeKiddKelvin
@CollegeKiddKelvin 4 жыл бұрын
The Pedal Bored yea
@AudreyYun
@AudreyYun 4 жыл бұрын
try pushing the crunch channel on the katana. even better imo
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
Audrey Yun Halfway through I turn the Gain up. Not to the Crunch channel, but similar effect.
@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 4 жыл бұрын
TS9 darker more squashed sounding, TS808 brighter more friendly. I like the TS808.
@BlueBarrier782
@BlueBarrier782 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly like the look of the TS9 more.
@gunkanjima3408
@gunkanjima3408 3 жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is that my visual taste flipped overnight. I think it’s the vintage and SRV thing that got me
@akasgsvirgil9503
@akasgsvirgil9503 2 жыл бұрын
Not quite sure if sending a looped signal to the OD pedals rather than an actual signal from the guitar itself is a good way to demo these pedals. You can still hear the original clean tone through the grit layered on by the pedals. Had the guitar been plugged direct into the pedals, the sound would've been much different. Think of it this way. You record a guitar track using a clean tone and then try to add the grit to it during playback. Its doesn't work.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 2 жыл бұрын
I take your point, but that is how a lot of DAWs work - Logic etc.
@luisgoregonzalez7394
@luisgoregonzalez7394 3 жыл бұрын
Ts 808 !
@Slears
@Slears 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Wampler made a vide yrs ago were he clearly said...the difference between 808 and TS 9 ist just one diode...iirc
@blizzbee
@blizzbee 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like a DJ music.
@ryanspencerlauderdale687
@ryanspencerlauderdale687 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Tubescreamer needs a crunchy amp to sound the best. Hearing that clean sound under a layer of distortion doesn’t sound good to me.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 3 жыл бұрын
Second half of the video. 2:30
@vitnemec8365
@vitnemec8365 4 жыл бұрын
They don’t sound the same, but the tonal differences are very minor. So I bought the Earthquaker Palisades and never looked bac.
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Dunes!
@veryhappy2681
@veryhappy2681 Жыл бұрын
Dude
@giuliomazzocco
@giuliomazzocco 4 жыл бұрын
I HOPE NO ONE WILL DISLIKE, btw for me they're the same sound
@olderebelam-o
@olderebelam-o 4 жыл бұрын
Giulio Mazzocco I heavily disagree with extreme prejudice. Especially because I feel the exact same way, and that goes against years of reading up on those two pedals in dad rock forums where people defend to the death one or the other!
@bruhdamartinasty3636
@bruhdamartinasty3636 4 жыл бұрын
I disliked just for the hell of it. :)
@NoahGagne
@NoahGagne 8 ай бұрын
Song name ?
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 8 ай бұрын
My own composition
@stanislavmigra
@stanislavmigra 4 жыл бұрын
They are really close, the TS9 have som strange top end frequency, that I dislike, but it is very subtle. Personaly Im not that big fan of classic tube screamer. But there are some rally cool "clones". Brian Wampler on his channel debunked what is the real difference between 808 and 9 and the extra money for 808 are just for nostalgia and esthetics. There are no superior components in 808.
@redbing1918
@redbing1918 Ай бұрын
808
@firstnamenonapplicable5138
@firstnamenonapplicable5138 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I like the ts808 more despite not hearing a difference
@ThePedalBored
@ThePedalBored 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because it looks cool
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