The OverDrive guys get fired up talking about the latest news on Mitch Marner turning down offers from the Maple Leafs for seven and eight years at $11 million.
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@truenorth75844 жыл бұрын
O'Neil's absolutely right. Time to dump this mob
@jina88604 жыл бұрын
Agree!!! Damm greedy so annoying
@bretbuck81734 жыл бұрын
If i was in dubas shoes, if mitch comes back at 11m for 7 id tell him no, the deals 9.5m for 5-6 years, if he doesnt take it then dump him in europe where he gets 1m maybe, youll miss a return on him but then youll be able to sign muzzin and barrie and keep the team together and it shows the rfas they cant push teams around
@jvanleeuwenCdn4 жыл бұрын
I agree losing marner for nothing isn't horrible. It means you can develop rookies, sign other players, keep your existing talent and give out performance bonuses. 3 players at over 10 or 11 million an piece will never win the cup in the cap world. Hockey is an team sport
@maxx62824 жыл бұрын
@@jvanleeuwenCdn 😬🙄🤡🧂
@paulsmith51504 жыл бұрын
What would be a good trade for him? Keller and a 2nd? You figure who ever gets to play with JT will be elevated. I haven’t watched a lot of Marner so I don’t know his value.
@calebloveshockey4 жыл бұрын
"How to lose a fanbase in 90 days"
@theheartguy14 жыл бұрын
someones been reading reddit comments
@eliskagray15464 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣True
@ms.felonystrutter24724 жыл бұрын
WHAT??? The suits are not leaving...
@rickyrickardo83474 жыл бұрын
The Leafs will never lose their retarded fan base much like the Liberals.
@SouthernSkeptic4 жыл бұрын
Lol, yep.
@PyeZzz4 жыл бұрын
As a leafs fan I’m sick of all this greed ffs
@MineCraftDadnSon4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the NHL where Toronto has sold out for decades.
@Bruh-di3yc4 жыл бұрын
That’s what the leaf management wants you to think smh
@justinz16194 жыл бұрын
I've always backed the players over the league but I have to say, I am pretty disgusted with Marner right now and im not even a Leafs fan
@johnb18774 жыл бұрын
Yep, the fuckin players in the NBA and NFL are taking over and it's chaos.Players have too much power.The only solution is the cap should be higher. But Marner's camp knows Seattle money coming to the league and Leafs plus a new Tv deal will bring more money. Leafs can offer bonus money upfront plus incentives if over 90 points $2 million in cash. Marner will easily make money on endorsements but his agent won't unless his agent is negotiating endorsement deals. Can't Dubas offer Marner agent a cottage in Muskoka lol.
@boogyjuggy4 жыл бұрын
i hear you
@OfficialJamieBrown4 жыл бұрын
Dreger is the biggest clown. Odog keeps it real.
@adnac32804 жыл бұрын
Until Odog is wrong, then he hides. Weird how he hasn't tweeted anything since Marner signed
@zigfield7234 жыл бұрын
Dreger isn't in this video
@saskk22904 жыл бұрын
Dreger is consistently one of the best insiders in hockey...
@FalkunRazkull4 жыл бұрын
1000 percent with Odawg on this.
@jayvardy4 жыл бұрын
I don't think I can support Mitch Marner as a leaf at this point. As a fan of the team, I want him traded.
@grinch10184 жыл бұрын
jayvardy as a fellow Leafs fan,I don’t mind hearing that
@jonathanbrown57134 жыл бұрын
Agreed, we can use the 2 pieces in return to fill the holes..he is worth alot so i say get out u greedy bugger
@thesonofgod88844 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Trade marner.. over paid team destroyer
@MineCraftDadnSon4 жыл бұрын
How would trading him uh work...
@brandonreid09084 жыл бұрын
@@MineCraftDadnSon lol he goes one way and something comes back the other way. Not hard
@Jon4U4 жыл бұрын
O-dog is 100% right. I will never view Marner in the same light again.
@Samsquamsh4 жыл бұрын
everyone said that about nylander too...
@PoliticallyAffiliated4 жыл бұрын
It’s not Marner’s choice. You think he isn’t being “coached”? He most certainly is. Mommy. Daddy. Agent.
@terryliamakeros12174 жыл бұрын
Where am I? Shitsfucked regardless he’s a nhl player who should be able to stand up against mommy and daddy and it’s his call and the end of the day he could’ve agreed to terms if he wanted too
@PoliticallyAffiliated4 жыл бұрын
@@terryliamakeros1217 if you were 21, youd take your parents advice too.
@ericvascotto1131 Жыл бұрын
3 years later, this comment rings true
@johniovino6792 ай бұрын
Leaf fans will never forget this Mitch
@Schneb11 күн бұрын
Funny this was 4 years ago and we're still reeling from Dubas soft contract negotiations. "We can and we will" lol.
@rolandgallant302311 күн бұрын
Nylander toke a deal on the last contract, Marnier should do the same or go home!!!
@BIPOLARBATTLE7 күн бұрын
u got that right
@batt79454 жыл бұрын
Are you high? Odogg 2019
@mikec48454 жыл бұрын
Time to trade him because obviously money means more than winning in your home town. That little extra kind of money will come later.
@MarketingEnterprise14 жыл бұрын
And it will come in sponsorship money.
@olsirus4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine what it would be like to win the cup being from Toronto so many endorsements you'd be a hero
@kolvibardown4 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why Leaf fans translate 1st round exits to winning lmao. You’ve won the same amount of playoff series’ in the last 6 years as the Arizona Coyotes and Buffalo Sabres. Zero.
@olsirus4 жыл бұрын
@@kolvibardown I forgot you win cups with 4th liners 😂😂😂
@langdonalger92194 жыл бұрын
Maybe he doesn’t want to lose to the Bruins in the playoffs every year.
@dragonpress33104 жыл бұрын
Make this punk sit the year see what his value is after not playing
@francis69844 жыл бұрын
the leafs aren't making the playoffs the nlmao
@stpbasss37734 жыл бұрын
@@francis6984 Marner didn't drag them to the playoffs, they'll be perfectly fine without this little punk.
@francis69844 жыл бұрын
@@stpbasss3773 first on the team in points, played the PK. The leafs were 4 points out of missing the playoffs thos year. I guarantee that without marner the team doesn't have those 4 points
@stpbasss37734 жыл бұрын
@@francis6984 they would use that 11 mil he wants to help their defense so yeah someone else would make up those four points.
@thesonofgod88844 жыл бұрын
100% good bye Mitch
@raff9984 жыл бұрын
Coming from someone who is not a Leafs fan I was behind Marner and applauded him for holding his ground all this time. The fact he rejected those offers are insane. This kid is gonna destroy his reputation. Even if he does sign, I bet there will be some boos for him on Leafs opening night.
@ldaws-39124 жыл бұрын
I won't boo, but I will never love him like I would Matthews. Just think how crazy Marner's next deal will be if he signs for over $11m now and he puts up better production.
@langdonalger92194 жыл бұрын
People will forget about in time if he signs. They might be mad at first, but when he scores goals people will get over it. If this ends in a trade, he’s going to have a rough time coming back to Toronto as a visitor.
@Tyork424 жыл бұрын
D Laws if marner signs they announce Mathews as captain the next day. If he doesn’t, Mathews captain on opening night
@patmurphy4574 жыл бұрын
Why would you boo a player who doesn’t to play for you?!??! Hopefully Zurich gives him a national we love you day!
@abcdefghijkl1404 жыл бұрын
"How about just being a reasonable person? And saying 'I'm very happy to be playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs'" How about that Marner...
@TrAvi5link4 жыл бұрын
No his feelings were hurt because he's not Matthews & his dad says he should be captain not that injury prone American who didn't even cheer for the Leafs
@ldaws-39124 жыл бұрын
@SharpPwner Marner also had Tavares on his line all season with 47 goals. And Matthews had much less help on his line. That shows Matthews is able to carry the load of a first line, Marner needs Tavares. I don't think Marner gets 68 assists without Tavares on his line. I also think Matthews has better projections, this is why nobody would be happy to pay Marner the same as Matthews. It's just facts. Marner deserves a pay day, but not the amount he is asking for. At least not with the Leafs.
@Jarikurri684 жыл бұрын
@@ldaws-3912 turn it around the other way , tavares dont score 47 goals without Marner passing him the puck , its a team sport not a one man show.
@Jarikurri684 жыл бұрын
@@TrAvi5link Dubas created this problem by overpaying for matthews in the first place , if Matthews can get 5 year 11mil , Mitch certainly can , because to this point in there careers Marner has been the better player , and got the highest point total on the team last year.
@rigafraction16534 жыл бұрын
How about, he's a player not a fan. That's just stupid
@adrianalexander1554 жыл бұрын
Mitch Marner is NOT a team player. It’s evident in this fiasco. Part of the reason why the Penguins have a handful of Stanley Cups in recent years is because Crosby took a bit of a discount. You do what it takes to win. Some of these younger guys are divas, and Marner is one of them.
@bretbuck81734 жыл бұрын
More than just crosby, dupuis took a discount, letang did too and i think malkin he said on the spittin chiclets podcast
@strokes87714 жыл бұрын
Adrian Iannacito the pens really lucked out with how everything happened. To have Malkin, Crosby and letang at those contracts and values is a steal! It’s paid off too. I think taking less is a lost practice no a days.
@im3phirebird814 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Crosby did that, definitely some sympathy points for him, and I'm not even a penguins fan. Money devours every better value when greed starts to emerge. I wish Crosby all the success he deserves for that. Hampus Lindholm I am pointing at you as well.
@mooseyjuice6t94 жыл бұрын
Crosby didnt take a discount. When crosby signed, he took the same percent of cap from his team as mcdavids contract
@logans54434 жыл бұрын
Except Crosby didn’t take a discount... people don’t say McDavid took a discount even though their cap hits are almost exactly the same percentage of the cap at the time of signing.
@tplomonte Жыл бұрын
Nathan MacKinnon took team friendly deals, he said I haven't accomplished anything in 6 yrs . He never once held the Avalanche hostage, and after he won the cup, he still took less . 7 yrs later, 5 with M M& N, they tall ook their money up front Management did not bawk and refused to draw a line in the sand. Now 3 now trade clauses come in on July 1st . Someone doesn't know how to play poker or have been taken and sold a bill of goods.
@eric8464 жыл бұрын
"You get 11, I get 9, are you high?" 😂😂😂
@WILLIAM1971154 жыл бұрын
These kids have won nothing and they are already going to be over paid. How about winning at least a playoff round
@aaronmichael71164 жыл бұрын
I'm partially on your side, yet I dig a bit deeper, and find that at an earlier than normal age, these kids have been groomed. Go back to the early 90's. I was 17, playing Jr.B, enjoying a pretty successful season. Did I have a shot at "The Show" ? Hellz no !! So, I could approach the game differently. Enjoy it. Appreciate the lifestyle of a Junior Hockey player in a city of 300,000, mostly good hockey fans !!!
@cooperstephens53473 жыл бұрын
Matthews was going to get 50 goals marner with 94 points, NOT OVER PAID
@noahbrown69613 жыл бұрын
@@cooperstephens5347 this aged horribly
@justawinddown3 жыл бұрын
@@cooperstephens5347 Hahahaha
@Somethingsomethingmorbid03 жыл бұрын
@@noahbrown6961 the take aged like fine wine 🍷
@sinnaever4 жыл бұрын
ODogg is right. Ship Marner out, love the kid but can’t stand his dad and agent. Marner needs a new agent and tell his dad to piss off. 11M USD is a ton of coin.
@elmo14814 жыл бұрын
RMudder his dad is a piece of shit seen a CTV video of the family when Marner was young playing for the Vaughn kings
@millionfish4 жыл бұрын
@@elmo1481 Do you have a link to it?
@im3phirebird814 жыл бұрын
Plus that level of greed would also diminish the leafs chance for improvement, becaus that is just salary cap thievery. Greed. Not hockey. Lindolm did a similar thing to the Ducks last season, more focused on the money than on his skills. Should have trained more than being focused on his income. I would dump such players right away, not worth it and just hurting the team.
@millionfish4 жыл бұрын
@@im3phirebird81 Marner thinks he can do this because he's the good old Ontario boy who has always been a Leaf.
@im3phirebird814 жыл бұрын
@@millionfish I have always been human, does that mean....? xD Well I hope this is not all a circus. Regarding some decisions around the league for a couple of years it sometimes surely seems so. If they really still hire him for that money - any team for that matter - that will tell the story.
@YAhabsYA4 жыл бұрын
Like bro I’m a habs fan and this whole situation is annoying tf out of me this kid is good but not that good lol
@DoBap_4 жыл бұрын
Imagine adding 25 points from your previous season when playing alongside one of the best centres in the game, while barely increasing his production. Then thinking youre just as good and deserve equal money.
@johnb18774 жыл бұрын
Marner is better than Matthews just like Bichette is better than Guerarero Jr.
@rickg55974 жыл бұрын
John B 11 mil for a winger with a below average AHL shot & back 2 back games with no shots in 2019 playoffs...good riddance! Let some other team pay for all his productive shinny (regular) seasons.
@lelouchvibritannia40284 жыл бұрын
@@DoBap_ Yeah, the little shit thinks he's worth McDavid money. What an idiot.
@eNes-kc8oi4 жыл бұрын
He's good but not that good yet because I guarantee you once he hits his prime you going to look at it like wow I was a retard for thinking he wasn't worth that
@discodesanti24594 жыл бұрын
I think if O-Dogg and Paul Marner were sitting beside each other watching a hockey game there would be a headbutt before the end of the 1st.
@driller114mm44 жыл бұрын
If he called me up on Oct 1st and says I will take the 7 years at 11. I would ask if he wants window or isle on the flight to Swiss? Bye bye
@liamwebster68444 жыл бұрын
Fully in agreement with Odog here. Enough is enough. Get this guy outta my face.
@RoyDallasFishing4 жыл бұрын
You dont show up for camp, your gone. Goodbye. Fack aff kid.
@eNes-kc8oi4 жыл бұрын
Telling a kid to go F off when you're a grown adult sounds like somebody is a bit jealous that he never got the chance to make the kind of money Mitch it is going to make why don't you stop being jealous look at it from his side cuz we only know one side
@takileafs4 жыл бұрын
@@eNes-kc8oi wtf does this have to do with jealousy? stop taking the comment so seriously ffs.
@ryanmisener84014 жыл бұрын
@@eNes-kc8oi I get it but honesty at this point the kid should f off dont get me wrong I love marner and his style of play but the leafs have been more then fair with the offers they gave him 11 mil is tied for the 4th highest nhl paid player not only that but the leafs have also offered 3 years for 8.75 mil like at this point it's just greed and to compare urself to Matthew's like how unprofessional is that the first year they played matthews and marner where healthy through the whole season Matthew's got more the last 2 seasons matthews has had 2 unlucky injury where marner hasnt not to mention ur playing on the top line with taveras who I'm sure helps u get half ur points right there to it's just all greed at this point I have lost some respect for marner rejecting 5 + offered since the off season in my opinion if marner is there for opening trade him and make a offer sheet for Linae cause I guarantee u anyone playing on that top line with hyman and tavares will get points and not only that but u hve a chance to play with a Stanley cup caliber team and ur refusing dude u dont deserve to play for the team
@ryanmisener84014 жыл бұрын
Isn't there not is lol
@eNes-kc8oi4 жыл бұрын
@@takileafs why you taking my comments so serious then if you're telling me not to take his so serious
@ed2304 жыл бұрын
I love mitch but if u cant take 11 over 7 ....trade him...get a high end d man...o dog is old time hockey ...players arent like that anymore unfortunately
@Envra4 жыл бұрын
Bud, it's about term. Look at Zach Werenski.
@ed2304 жыл бұрын
@@Envra bud ...i dont give a f about werenski ...u wanna play get it done ...if not fack off...cold hearts need to be implemented...its a business...hes diggin a hole ...at this point its see you later ...im a big mitch fan ..like heavy no lie my fav player but first and foremost im a leaf fan ...soo take that as it is..nothing against u or ur comment i get it no disrespect but im being real
@patrickgoulet81704 жыл бұрын
@@ed230 definitely not proper compensation for buying ufa years. He's worth 11 now what he going to be worth in 5 or 6?
@ed2304 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgoulet8170tittle " just how much are the rfas worth" ...hockey guy is the channel ....has a pretty good analyses on this u should watch cheers
@maxx62824 жыл бұрын
@@ed230 hes saying he wants a short term contract like werinski so by the end of it the team will still be good
@mcdaviddeservesbetter84 жыл бұрын
I’m suddenly feeling pretty confident having Leon & Connor both locked up for maximum term at only $21M combined. 😂
@hucz4 жыл бұрын
"only 21m combined" oilers need a lot more than leon and connor, a lot of work to do on their roster. mcdavid could be long gone before the team is competitive again
@hockeyandsoccer4ever4 жыл бұрын
And im pretty confident you will continue to be bottom feeders. Mcdavid may aswell make 80mill and the rest of the team be Junior B volunteers
@dr.curious51364 жыл бұрын
McDavid Deserves Better in all fairness JT and Matthews are at 22.634 , it’s still not bad for for two elite centres considering one was a FA and the cap increases over when your players sign.
@liamwebster68444 жыл бұрын
Imagine an oilers fan being confident
@scottyjonas75924 жыл бұрын
hockeyandsoccer4ever sorry, how many playoff series has Mathews Tavares won again??
@bluetocop Жыл бұрын
looking back you guys were right on
@Droz75 Жыл бұрын
Amazing the Leaf's are right back at the same situation with Nylander. Things never change.
@cryptocode884 жыл бұрын
Trade him for Matthews’ bestie Matt tkachuk !! You can sign him for a long time At lessssss money and he provides goal scoring and protects his teammates! Something Mitch will never do
@liamwebster68444 жыл бұрын
Cody Chambers we'd have to get something else as well from CGY but I like that idea.
@JoeOsChannel4 жыл бұрын
What makes you think Calgary would make a trade for Marner knowing how much Marner wants to be paid? Just a question...neither Calgary or Toronto are my favorites regardless so no, I'm not picking sides or anything....
@moriellymoproblems78424 жыл бұрын
Speaking of which, why hasn't Tkachuk signed a deal with Calgary yet?
@francis69844 жыл бұрын
@@moriellymoproblems7842 theres still a month until hockey and calgary has 7 million in cap space in case you were actually curious and not being passive agressive
@jvanleeuwenCdn4 жыл бұрын
You think Marner is going to sit out the season? I can't imagine him being that stupid. But I'd rather he sits out without an contract then have the leafs sign him for 11 million at 7 years. He's good but not that good, that's Sydney Crosby good. What's Crosby making 7 million an year?
@ericvascotto11313 жыл бұрын
O-Dog comes out looking great in this in hindsight.
@The21abc4 жыл бұрын
Hes no Connor Mcdavid to ask that much money 😂
@ryanb66794 жыл бұрын
If Marner signed that contract he would be making about $1600 per hour every hour for the next 8 years...
@Fausto_48413 жыл бұрын
That’s obscene
@morgangentle15154 жыл бұрын
Unreal get rid of him
@jeffmorris7454 жыл бұрын
not enough money for ya Mitchy?
@DadBooom4 жыл бұрын
11:03 "How about being a reasonable person?!" Right there. That's all there is to it. Sure you can hold out for OCT and see if you can get THE most possible, while simultaneously knee-capping your team cap-wise. Single players don't win a Cup, teams do. TRADE HIM and offer sheet Rantanen or Tkachuk for a steep $ their teams can't handle.
@Partheseus4 жыл бұрын
Lol, if the leafs offer sheet a steep number, theyd have to pay upwards of 4 1st rounders, you goof. Easier to 1 for 1 trade him for rantanen or point and get them to sign
@UrbanstarsK4 жыл бұрын
Parth Patel They can’t do 1 to 1. The other teams can’t pay what Marner wants either... Of course the leafs end up with this kid. Like WTF
@Partheseus4 жыл бұрын
Urbanstars colorado can, but no team is going to offer him that much, he’s goofing real bad rn
@jagoff624 жыл бұрын
@@Partheseus Exactly, you get the prospective player to agree to a contract before making the trade.
@lelouchvibritannia40284 жыл бұрын
You're not going to be able to get Rantanen as he wants to stay and the Avs have more than enough money, but Point is an option.
@23skidoo463 жыл бұрын
these kids think they're playing MLB or NFL and the $ ain't up there. you want that kind of $? you picked the wrong sport. lol
@petewalton50684 жыл бұрын
O-Dog is right
@kevinbobandy5324 жыл бұрын
Bye bye marner. Leafs nation has had enough of ya.
@d.l.r.62564 жыл бұрын
Hope so - hockey will continue with or without him. As long as he's not ready to sign whatever Toronto is throwing his way, I would rather see him in another jersey. He deserves better... including better fans.
@pivot10224 жыл бұрын
@@d.l.r.6256 yes, Because fans can't get upset over a player turning down a good contract, If they do they are shitty fans.
@TrAvi5link4 жыл бұрын
@@d.l.r.6256 lmao he can go to the Swiss league then cuz the Leafs have his rights and his insane contract demands have tanked any and all trade value for him. So he can accept the Leafs deal, or sit. He's not Matthews
@No_Fear_334 жыл бұрын
@@TrAvi5link he isnt Matthews, thank god or else he is a 60 game season every year player
@fredpickels69254 жыл бұрын
Goalie Dad 33 why did u guys pay Matthews so god damn much. Marner is the better player with the puck on his stick all the time he should get paid equally as such
@johnsweet9618 күн бұрын
Holy crap, this was recommended to me TODAY, and I couldn't tell how dated it was until they mentioned the reigning MVP' cap hit. The franchise is literally trapped in time
@andrewbennett76104 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Leafs fan but I'm pissed off on their behalf. You know who else has every right to be losing his patience? John Tavares. JT should have by now said to MM "look buddy, we all want you to get a good deal, but you and me were one of the best 1-2's in the game last year, I need to know if I can get mentally prepared for this season with peace of mind you'll be there, or if I need to start preparing differently"
@burleybater4 жыл бұрын
That's a damned good point. I have nothing but the utmost respect for JT. Wish Marner would borrow a page from that book. Ah. Maybe one day soon the Leaf's will beat Marner's team in the cup final. Nothing sweeter.
@lucarossi89134 жыл бұрын
Guy in the middle is 10000% right about everything
@MasculineIdeal4 жыл бұрын
Mean
@Landis_Grant Жыл бұрын
Notice O-Dog was leaning toward Brian Hayes. His body language said he was ignoring what Noodles was saying.
@davidewan34 жыл бұрын
you dont need Marner to win the cup. Ask St Louis.
@danh58104 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Between both Cup finalists last year, only 3 players total made more than 7 mil(cap hit wise). In the final 4, no one making more 8 was present. Aho just got 8.5, I'd say that's good.
@Michael-pg7rv4 жыл бұрын
I usually disagree with o-dog but he is spot on here. Trade Mitch
@crystal-8dmusic4564 жыл бұрын
My man In the middle spitting faxxx
@hockeyandsoccer4ever4 жыл бұрын
Never thought id agree with one of your kind. Maybe u aint so bad
@deshawnparker33934 жыл бұрын
Lol FR
@scarmania37564 жыл бұрын
@@hockeyandsoccer4ever 🤔 never thought id agree with Jeff O'Neill. Maybe he ain't so bad.
@JasonBlackburn_024 жыл бұрын
about time somebody tell something true here
@MarketingEnterprise14 жыл бұрын
He is going to make more than that in sponsorship. He won't get that kind of sponsor money anywhere else. Not that it should affect his pay/contract, but Marner risks losing money if they trade him.
@ldaws-39124 жыл бұрын
lol what a bonehead
@Paulafan54 жыл бұрын
What sponsorship? You don't make a ton of money from sponsorship in Toronto if you're the third best player.
@MarketingEnterprise14 жыл бұрын
@@Paulafan5 I can think of few. Red Bull, Beats By Dre, Intact Insurance, BF Goodrich Tires , Deacons Moving & Storage Little Debbie's Snack Cakes Tab, Daewoo, Ticonderoga Pencils; Jovan Musk , Drakkar Noir. It's not as much about being a top 3 player as it is he is a hometown boy. It's marketing 101
@sexpanther474 жыл бұрын
@@Paulafan5 Bulova
@chingasofarkaso2 жыл бұрын
O'Neill is bang on. Even more so two years later. Kyle Dubas is the boss we all wish we could negotiate our salaries with.
@dylanevans75294 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for him to sign before i get his jersey. Probably won't even get it if he signs now.... Tavares Jersey Lets go!
@patrickgoulet81704 жыл бұрын
Why should he take a discount? You guys have no loyalty look at what you just said. Look at marleau leaving the only team he's known to get bought out. Look at sundin didn't get to finish his career with the only team he's known and was captain of. It goes both ways.
@are32874 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgoulet8170 The fuck are you talking about? They're already offering him an outrageous overpayment! Wow.
@patrickgoulet81704 жыл бұрын
@@are3287 if he has the most points on the team than you're overpaying other players, the problem is that the fans don't see that. Last year you guys didn't mind overpaying nylander and now it's a problem somehow?
@are32874 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgoulet8170 Nylander gets 6.9M That seemed like a slight overpayment at most then and now it's not too bad. Marner wants double that and he's only a slightly better player than Nylander lmao.
@cuddy92154 жыл бұрын
Dylan Evans I’m in the same boat. Been waiting all summer in hopes of grabbing a Marner jersey. In the last few weeks I’ve been starting to reconsider. Looking like I’ll be going with a Matthews👌🏼
@TriceMendoza4 жыл бұрын
Trade him we can't pay too much for 4 players
@duncanmccarron91464 жыл бұрын
too late
@justawinddown3 жыл бұрын
@@duncanmccarron9146 you can and you will and the GM will not admit it's a stupid move.
@TH-tl6sy4 жыл бұрын
ROFLMAO 11 million US for Marner? Hahahahaha wow Dubas has lost his damn mind.
@thevegangiant55893 жыл бұрын
wow this conversation is more relevant today after they choked
@nicksilva21303 жыл бұрын
And especially after they choked again.....
@HermesActum3 жыл бұрын
@@nicksilva2130 hahahahahaha
@justawinddown3 жыл бұрын
@@HermesActum you gotta love how Dubey dug his heels in and couldnt admit his mistake and is going to give it another go with the same 4 guys.
@PrinceNxthing4 жыл бұрын
Marner is not a Leaf. He's a sell out.
@studmuffin35164 жыл бұрын
justin thornton what in the fuck does that have anything to do with what he said
@patrickgoulet81704 жыл бұрын
@justin thornton why bother watching and commenting? A real winner, I'm sure your mom is proud.
@doug57814 жыл бұрын
Yeah that Thornton guy is an ass clown
@Envra4 жыл бұрын
Bud, it's about term. Look at Zach Werenski.
@cuddy92154 жыл бұрын
justin thornton Do you comment just to purposely sound like a dumbass? Are you feeling alright?
@macdaddy3510004 жыл бұрын
As a habs fan I love this. Becoming a big marner fan. More greed Mitch. Mess up the leafs cap. You have earned every penny. Hold out man. They caved for Nylander. They will for you.
@bottomingoutsniper39254 жыл бұрын
lol.. hes driving the leafs mad.. i love it
@atothek22554 жыл бұрын
Is it still a thing for MTL fans to be obsessed with the Leafs? Losers.
@macdaddy3510004 жыл бұрын
AtotheK not obsessed at all. Just enjoying the circus that is the TML. Leafs didn’t learn their lesson with nylander and now go down the same road with marner. Get yours Mitch. Bleed the cap dry. 😂😂😂😂
@breht3 жыл бұрын
This has aged horribly
@gregbeyer77103 жыл бұрын
@@breht has it though?
@coreym10363 жыл бұрын
Another first round exit, another rerun of this comedy - habs fan here
@coltukkor4 жыл бұрын
Id seriously trade mitch if we could get back M.Tkachuk.He’s more what we need anyways
@Partheseus4 жыл бұрын
Too bad the flames have an identical player in gadreau who makes almost half of what mitch was offered lol
@burleybater4 жыл бұрын
An NHL top 3 defenseman would be nice.
@breht3 жыл бұрын
This aged horribly
@lukeb4363 Жыл бұрын
Well this is fun to revisit
@McQuokka4 жыл бұрын
If this is true I just lost all respect for MM.
@patrickgoulet81704 жыл бұрын
@AKsleepygirl he had the most points on the team, how is he selfish? Nobody said that about nylander and he sucks.
@Partheseus4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Goulet also, everyone said that about nylander lol
@Partheseus4 жыл бұрын
GoldGravity yea, if nylander was being reasonable and people were saying he was selfish, marners on another level of selfish
@Partheseus4 жыл бұрын
GoldGravity exactly, he was my favourite leaf, but i told everyone if he didnt come back to Toronto, i would probably boo him at a game when he played them (same with willie last year), but now im not so sure he’s my favourite player anymore
@maxx62824 жыл бұрын
He wants matthews and nylander term like a sane person
@pendy_29694 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks Matthews shouldn’t have even made that amount of money. The fact marner declined 11 mil a year for 7 years is hilarious. I feel bad for leaf fans.
@are32874 жыл бұрын
No I agree 10 was Max for Matthews but Dubas is weak
@moriellymoproblems78424 жыл бұрын
@@are3287 maybe on an 8 year deal, but Matthews on a 5 year deal is definitely worth 11.6, especially considering he'll be a 26 year old UFA and thus more likely to sign at max term with a lower caphit.
@No_Fear_334 жыл бұрын
@@moriellymoproblems7842 Mathews will NEVER come back to TO when the 5 years are up
@charlieb3084 жыл бұрын
5 year deal and UFA at end was a terrible contract for Matthew’s
@No_Fear_334 жыл бұрын
@@charlieb308 yup, and i will bet the deed to my suv that he will NOT stay in TO. Its Phil Kessel part 2, wait for it.
@gandlebot4 жыл бұрын
Marner is everything everyone thought Nylander was.
@DJ1NS4N1TY3 жыл бұрын
it just ages like the finest wine
@docholliday72564 жыл бұрын
Finally , someone in the media has expressed how most of us in Leafnation FEELS! Good on ya Odog!!!!
@billsmith26894 жыл бұрын
Trade Marner and take the picks and do an offer sheet for one of the other free agent players. And off we go.
@Brvce_Wayne2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Paul Marner.
@connormelber275817 күн бұрын
Listening in June 2024, all still relevant today lmao
@Mike6044 жыл бұрын
Leafs signed Mitch $10.9 @ 6 years. As a Canucks fan, this is hilarious!
@breht3 жыл бұрын
Still laughing
@jebpleb18034 жыл бұрын
Marner was my favorite player...I would like to see him play in Sweden for 2 or 3 years
@michaelfusvideos12434 жыл бұрын
@Kyncades Leaf fans would rather have David Clarkson in is prime than Mitch Marner.
@keysersoze41663 жыл бұрын
this hurts deep
@alimony8124 жыл бұрын
The leafs have a good team without Marner , Now that I find out he turned down 11 for 8 years . We learned a lot about who he really is . The offer needs to come down now if he misses a day of camp . Apparently We need to hope for leaf nation to lose this guy to an offer sheet . We lost the best contract in recent years with kadri and now we are in this boat ??? Really Is dubas / shanny really doing a good job or making a mess of the payoff for being a bottom feeder for years ??? They better let marner walk if need be . And focus on the original shanaplan
@MasculineIdeal4 жыл бұрын
Kadri trade was amazing
@lelouchvibritannia40284 жыл бұрын
@@MasculineIdeal For both sides. My Avs get forward depth, your Leafs get great offensive D-Man.
@rbishop954 жыл бұрын
Yeah Point is the best RFA available. Marner’s nuts if he thinks he deserves more
@thanewage4034 жыл бұрын
tmlcrosbyfan, I totally agree, completely underrated, and being slept on.
@yokleu75704 жыл бұрын
i like Marner but if he think 11M 7or 8 are not good ? let he go ! he is good but didn't win anything ye not said they had win the cup ! let he go !
@vincedenapoli30934 жыл бұрын
yok leu exactly
@maxx62824 жыл бұрын
@@vincedenapoli3093 if matthews leaves in 5 years why the fuck would you want to be on a non contender for 2-3 years
@David-ih1ek10 күн бұрын
O'NEIL'S you are Absolutely right! I am so glad someone can actually say that on open media. 60% or more of Canada is below poverty and these guys are making over $100M CAD, shit I played goalie an my parent passed away and could afford to play after that, I ended up taking care of my mom for over 20 years until she passed, I would play on Toronto for the love of the game. Absolutely ridicules what these guys want to play the game that is loved by every Canadian people.
@coreys26504 жыл бұрын
O-Dogg you absolutely nailed it. I'd say 3 options Mitch, 11x7, 11x8, or Switzerland. And I'd add to that, if you don't sign before opening night, you're missing the entire season and you can sign for 10x7 in 2020/2021.This is getting ridiculous.
@jimmason10724 жыл бұрын
Anything in the $11/per any season should be off the table.....7,8 and 9 on a three year deal..... and it's on the table for 24 hrs.... After that..... Swiss cheese......or sit.... But the next deal is 5 years at 6.5..... and then you see how he plays..... If crap.... Trade him.....with that contract he will go.....everyone else out there is waiting on the Leafs to settle the RFA situation.....so Toronto should force the issue and then those other guys will see what's in the wind..... Toronto unfortunately has got in this spot because of Willie Nylander....
@Violencegod614 жыл бұрын
"116 million Canadian!! Are you nuts!!" hahaha
@noahmatthew66583 жыл бұрын
The problem is that dubas has backed down and overpaid everyone else so marner wants the same. Dubas ruined the chance of this core winning the cup when he overpaid on Tavares
@joshbrown99264 жыл бұрын
This shit breaks my heart man, I’m from London, I grew up watching this man play in the OHL for my favourite team. I was so excited to see him tear up the nhl for my leafs. This whole thing has just been so disappointing reports last year were saying he’d be taking a major discount to make sure he could win a cup here. Guess that’s not gonna happen now
@shawny2scrawny Жыл бұрын
Even still at 99 pts… I can’t help but look at the Marchand/pasta/Bergeron ACTUAL team friendly deals and wince a bit. Love him too.
@davidkruse4030 Жыл бұрын
@@shawny2scrawny those guys made their money. Marner is in his prime.
@shawny2scrawny Жыл бұрын
@@davidkruse4030 I agree. Just certainly “no favours” were made with sweet baby Kyle D. Not saying I could have negotiated any better, but it’s not… ideal certainly.
@shaneadams40184 жыл бұрын
Any thing over 10 is gross over payment this is ridiculousness
@williamblaney9044 жыл бұрын
Had Dubas not mismanaged the Nylander negotiation this debacle would have been averted. Dubas is weak and ineffectual. Nylander's camp were clear victors last fall. Marner's advisors assuredly remember. Losing the negotiations with Nylander and Marner were not the biggest loss; losing firm negotiator Lou was the real loss.
@notesandfragments4 жыл бұрын
William Blaney 1000%. Couldn’t agree more.
@kevenc.88834 жыл бұрын
And this Toronto is why you'll never touch that cup!
@pathocrat4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you guys have another Russian 7th round pick who is going to be the best player in the league. You'll learn to suffer through some lean years, unless you're not a real fan and abandon your team through the rebuild.
@powerhouse98684 жыл бұрын
O Dogs best rant. Keep it up
@ZakHorvath3 жыл бұрын
Bruins top 3 makes about 20 million against the cap Leafs top 3 makes 33.5 million against the cap say what you will about the Bruins but they manage their cap very well. Pastrnak only makes 6.666 million a season against the cap and he's a better overall player than Marner.
@bloodwillrunthestreets52054 жыл бұрын
TRADE MARNER NOW! SIGN TKACHUK OR POINT!
@JasonBlackburn_024 жыл бұрын
cost less , more gritt and physical , can score , i'll take it !
@patrickgoulet81704 жыл бұрын
Lol how's that going to work you can't just say any name you want and make it happen. Marleau is a free agent if you need a winger.
@JasonBlackburn_024 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgoulet8170 you're name is Patrick Goulet , do we need to talk much about this ? nope .
@ldaws-39124 жыл бұрын
restricted FA's bro
@JasonBlackburn_024 жыл бұрын
@@ldaws-3912 and ? they will get 4 first round with marner ? i dont really care about giving 4 too for tkatchuk .
@checubanil73854 жыл бұрын
Nice leak job by Dubie there. Our media friendly millennial GM
@zachlesk56859 күн бұрын
Listening to this in 2024… how ironic it’s the exact same situation
@Kimchi2030104 жыл бұрын
Leaf fans : "MArnEr iS gOinG tO taKe a HoMetoWn diScOunT"
@kayecfsnl44544 жыл бұрын
Said no one ever
@07foxmulder4 жыл бұрын
I read a lot of other fans say that but I’ve never met a Leafs fan who did. Weird how obsessed non-Leafs fans can be.
@langdonalger92194 жыл бұрын
07foxmulder I have read comments from Leaf fans who acted like it would be no problem to get Marner signed. I never saw this as being an easy process. He might sign, but it hasn’t been easy up to this point.
@Lahey-hv2ml4 жыл бұрын
Wow has hockey changed over the years, makes me sick.
@matthewkenney8670Ай бұрын
Anybody who can't figure out why Marner gets the hate he's currently getting need to watch this clip from four years ago. It will suddenly make perfect sense.
@joshm936325 күн бұрын
Because Toronto offered him $11m x 7 and Marner signed $10.9m x 6 instead? Or because fans always need a scapegoat?
@SF18865 күн бұрын
@@joshm9363Because he is from Toronto and makes a fortune off-ice and could have taken $9.5m x 8 years SO HIS HOMETOWN TEAM COULD WIN A CUP!!!
@alexhutcheson84674 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing would be to trade him and offer sheet Tkachuk 11x7
@jeffreydean51124 жыл бұрын
Alex Hutcheson itd be so funny to just give tkachuk an offer sheet while marner is on the roster just to give him the middle finger
@TheArcher1433 жыл бұрын
First to Infinity lmao
@HC-cz7xl4 жыл бұрын
Loving the "dump Mitch" comments - soon as he signs they'll be cheering for him like nothing happened. Oh Toronto...
@ChrisG873 жыл бұрын
From the future - dude couldn't even make a dent on the score sheet in a 5-game series against the Blue Jackets - at home. 11M WELL SPENT. 🤣
@seffer18383 жыл бұрын
From the Far Future - Marner couldn't score at all versus the Habs and underperformed again! 11M WELL SPENT!
@cuddy92154 жыл бұрын
All those commercials he’s been doing should have been our first sign of his greed🤣
@kentwpiano4 жыл бұрын
wanting to get paid what you're worth is greed? LOL
@cuddy92154 жыл бұрын
kentwpiano So you think he’s worth over 11 X 7? Stick to piano Kent.
@kentwpiano4 жыл бұрын
I do think he's worth that. He's a 90+ point player. 90+ point players are gonna get paid
@cuddy92154 жыл бұрын
kentwpiano Thank god you aren’t Kyle Dubas🤣
@kentwpiano4 жыл бұрын
@@cuddy9215 i really don't get it. What do you think he's worth? and ya know what, maybe he doesn't have a problem with the money, maybe it's the term. Maybe he wants 5 years. He's young and doesn't want to lock in somewhere for an eternity. How could we blame him for that?
@michaelrevelle22294 жыл бұрын
I would have paid top $ for this if it was just Jeff O'Neill screaming about the situation for 20 minutes lol. I feel u O-Dawg
@BigH0mie894 жыл бұрын
I second that lol. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this many people in the chat supporting O-Dog 😂
@olsirus4 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that our hometown kid who grew up wanting to be a leaf his whole life gets drafted 4th overall by his hometown team and pulls this bs his goal should be to win that cup
@Paulafan54 жыл бұрын
So, all Toronto born players should play for the minimum in Toronto? They have a limited window to make money, thanks to the entry level caps. He was underpaid for years. Why shouldn't he get fair market value?
@olsirus4 жыл бұрын
@@Paulafan5 I'm not saying he should play for a minimum wage but 11 over 7 kinda crazy to turn that down
@paulthompson87934 жыл бұрын
@@Paulafan5 And lets be real, the kid isn't an 11m/yr player, just flat out isn't, that is an extremely generous offer that he should've taken, but he's more interested in term, he wants to be walked into UFA while making around that cash, he's thinking about the next big contract when he's a UFA. Nobody is saying he should be payed league minimum, they are just saying this is a hometown kid, it's like every Canadian kids dream to bring home the cup, and he's passing on that because of more money.
@anotherbrownguy3 жыл бұрын
If Lou was our GM Nylander at 6 Marner at 7.5 and Mathews 9.5 million.
@ACParker134 жыл бұрын
This is why we keep losing in the 1st round. As much talent as this team has, it has even more greed and need. What a bunch of divas.
@DrunkenGuitarGuy4 жыл бұрын
first time i've watched one of these and literally lol'ed, love how fired up o'neil is over this!
@samgardner46674 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Toronto need to hold firm and let the kids go play in Switzerland if it comes down to it.
@No_Fear_334 жыл бұрын
How did that threat work on Nylander. loser LEafs
@hockeygoaliejesse4 жыл бұрын
as a sports fan, I'm sick of all this greed. we, the fans, are the ones driving up these prices.
@Dan-ie2ip4 жыл бұрын
I love Jeff. Such a passionate leafs fan
@JoeBlythe3 жыл бұрын
Offering $11 million in June was a huge mistake for Leafs management, and that goes for Marner or any player on this team. Marner is a great player, but I have a feeling his father has buttered him up to the point of insanity from the time he first ever picked up a hockey stick.
@shawnsimmons6974 жыл бұрын
No i will still be pissed if he gets 11 a year when legit allstars and Cup Champs are getting paid soooooo much less
@notesandfragments4 жыл бұрын
O’Neill’s truth bombs and passion on this issue is 1000% how I feel about Marner, his camp’s greed and the ineptitude of Dubas. You had all summer to make a statement and not get boxed into a corner and be bullied as was the case with the Nylander negotiations. Yet here we are again when we all know that Nylander’s return just threw the whole team off. Trade Marner now for a Top D and a 1st rd pick. I’m done with this nonsense.
@burleybater4 жыл бұрын
I hear ya man.
@oldndayzd92814 жыл бұрын
They Can't Even Trade Him No Team is Willing to PAY his Ridiculous Price 😳
@gordonbgraham4 жыл бұрын
oldn dayzd Columbus would
@BilnaMan4 жыл бұрын
@Skynertia are you apart of the blue jackets head office? Lmao shut up
@gordonbgraham4 жыл бұрын
@Skynertia You think they're just going to continue to bleed players?
@BilnaMan4 жыл бұрын
@Skynertia go comment on a curling thread
@TheOptimusGamer14 жыл бұрын
There are teams out there that will pay him the deal he wants I guarantee it