How Driving SLOW Cars will make you FASTER...

[@Shooterbud]

Ive always loved driving shitboxes compared to the racecars in games just pushing the car to its limit

[@voytec448]

me too

[@pipopu]

unless it's forza fastest car i've driven is an RX-7 FD spirit R

[@markps97]

Got the Polonez?

[@RianDaRetard]

R W D I N T E G R A

[@sadrian8411]

Got the Polonez?

[@dudocaine]

My first car ever was a 98 Civic Ferio. Your description of how it handles when you drive it fast is spot on lol

[@darkninja9499]

Civic is just majestic

[@noobscoopsies1100]

Civic is the sportiest shitbox you could ever find, unlike those other shitboxes that had "Sport" in their name/badge but didn't feels like it 😂

[@darkninja9499]

@@noobscoopsies1100 fr man

[@GG46420]

When i graduated school i bought a Lada 2105(64hp RWD 200€ shitbox) and beat the shit out of it on mountain passes. It always broke down, I had to learn everything about engines, drivetrain, suspension etc, to keep it rolling. I always fixed it by myself. Did an engine rebuild and tune with no prior experience and it made 160HP after that. The car is gone now, but what I'm trying to say is that you build fundamentals with shitboxes, these cars are like teachers, both in driving skill and mechanics. I miss my first love... That fucking lada...I barrel-rolled it down a mountain pass.

[@Jake_Garcia]

That exact variant of the civic can be seen at every road and corner in my country in the 2000s. Everyone just really had one. Needles to say practicing with that car in the sim will be great realistic practice

[@weesamexpress6730]

I agree, I plan on getting a civic like that so I can throw it around.... Unlike the SiR I have rn, I need a cheaper sh!tbox to learn driving on

[@K0Y0I_sis]

Double wishbone on all fours for the price of a bucket. What we see is potential.

[@Mega-G-Star]

Everyone didn’t have one only Grandma’s and your toy sim ain’t realistic at all.

[@guillermoguillermo4368]

This is what I always said on an assetto corsa discord once. Everyone so obsessed with VRC and rmwhatever mods but will spend most of their lives driving a fwd shitbox, so why not getting used to things like controlling a lift off oversteer on a fwd or even induce it on purpose to help you conserve momentum on a short turn. It is way more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow

[@JohnDoe-jk3vv]

Because they want to race the cars they won't be able to in real life. Not everybody likes to spend their free time playing "my boring life" simulator.

[@masix73]

@@JohnDoe-jk3vv dude doesn’t know what driving a civic 160 km/h into a Autobahn exit is like. Bro it’s fucking fun and scary. People who can’t drive have a boring live that’s it…

[@youraveragegamer8832]

​@@JohnDoe-jk3vvI would hope that your boring life wouldn't involved driving normal cars at ludicrous speeds in areas that possibly have traffic

[@bubbleman2002]

@@JohnDoe-jk3vv There is nothing boring about sending a grocery getter onto an exit ramp and not knowing if you'll stay on the road or not. It's funny when the tires make noises!

[@novaplaya]

@@JohnDoe-jk3vvhonestly you can never go wrong sim racing cuz it really does teach u how to drive

[@CV511]

This is so true. You can give every skills you cultivated to those undermodified cars, and you'll need it because the car want to stabilize itself all the time and it'll tell you all about keeping the momentum. It also makes you more aware of the difference coming from suspension and under.

[@diegofelipevillegasrubio8767]

Funnily enough, I find the handling in the AE86 quite rewarding. Thrash the car around and you'll suffer a lot of understeer, but should you be more disciplined in your trail braking and throttle input, it rewards you with a lot of oversteer. My only problem with the car is the low torque at lower RPMs

[@Paricyte]

I drive a Civic Aerodeck irl. Basically an eg Civic with a different body. Why older Civic’s are so popular is the fully independent suspension setup they have which gives an ordinary daily driver a very capable sporty feel. My Civic is slightly modified with coilovers, exhaust, headers and intake, and it’s just so much fun because I can drive it at its limit and not feel scared to do so. I’ve beaten Golf R’s, Impreza WRX’s etc on twisty roads. Those cars are more than capable of beating me with the right driver, but you’re right in saying you don’t truly become a good driver without knowing how to get the best out of a slow car. Driving slow cars fast is 100% more fun than driving a fast car slow

[@sarasheppard8242]

I love using basic road cars in Assetto especially, it's a shame so many are harder to find when you're not connected. I've had 1200 or so cars at one point and more than half were over road-spec

[@DolioFoilio]

Can you not access your 1200 cars offline? I don't know if I understood your statement.

[@Unos2361]

​@@DolioFoiliothey're mods, he's probably meantioning that he can't download them offline

[@sarasheppard8242]

@@Unos2361 she....

[@sarasheppard8242]

@@DolioFoilio what my comment is for, I've tried to find more road cars, but it seems a lot of modders are more interested in modified or racing cars

[@tjakal]

Some people can get good at track racing in downforce monsters playing it like a memory game remembering brake points and where to turn in and what lines to take. But to be fast in a car you don't know on a track you don't know you need to understand weight transfer and trail-braking such that you can always pick your line at will. Slower cars with big suspension travel makes the physics of that situation much more obvious, this is why it trains you so much faster because you can keep finding where the limit is and have ample time to react and correct til you're dialed in.

[@ASOTFAN16]

This is so true. I can't tell you how much more I learnt while driving a GT86 in FH5 for literally 5 hours or so compared to the tens of hours I put into the game driving a variety of different cars which were way higher spec. Just simply add a little horsepower to make it a little more fun and just don't upgrade the tyres. Easy recipe for fun learning. If you're willing to put in the time of course lol

[@anthonyt1t5]

Even a lil tune makes a big difference like tire pressures and camber/toe settings. My gt86 250 HP drift tune is not perfect but it is so much fun and easy to drift with. If I want to do grip driving, all I really have to do is switch to semi slicks or racing tires.

[@mrpandasian8871]

Literally I keep a few cars at stock hp on fh4, just better brakes and suspension already does a world of change in performance

[@ASOTFAN16]

@@anthonyt1t5 For real. FH5 is the same. Just upgrade suspension, brakes, maybe anti-roll bars and maybe some wider tyres and you've got yourself a very fun car already. No need for crazy horsepower. More horsepower is honestly overrated. I used to tune my cars to the max right away but now I at most put in a turbo and maybe change the exhaust note and leave it at that just to make a bit more potent drift car for example

[@Dssfox]

dude, 170hp vti, 130 hp ae86 and 280 hp legacy turbo are FAR from being slow by commuter standatds)

[@Lucyfer_Eve]

It's like running with weights, when you take them off you feel faster, your shitbox is racing agaisnt you, so if you control that then you sit on a rocket that helps you, you'll end flying

[@totalhydration5240]

the race cartoon fans are gonna have a field day with this one

[@DobieMeltfire]

Recently as of this year I started becoming a fan of Improved Production Racing and SCCA Production Touring. Is pretty much real life Forza Motorsports, seeing so many various cars in a grid field. Just something about that I really love. Edit: and yes the 2017 improved production video ready made me love shitbox racing

[@jk8557]

I had a 4gen Honda Civic gli 1.5i sedan automatic as my daily driver a very long time ago, it was slow as hell, but it was fun because it had a pretty stiff suspension, it was a pretty low car, and felt very controlled (never had a car since then that would have felt as controlled as the Civic). It was easy to "drift" on dry asphalt and was even fun to drive on winding gravel roads but you always had to drive it with the pedal to the floor because it accelerated so slowly. I still smile when I remember how I made my friends scream when I turned into a rather sharp Cloverleaf Interchange as I usually did when I was driving alone and didn't realize I was driving faster than they were used to. I guess the G-forces were a bit too much for my friends. :D

[@Lucas_Fidalgo]

That is true for civics up to the 6th gen, a true little kart if you treat them right

[@samgong1125]

I often do touge tournament with my friends that has various skill levels. And I make their laptimes line up within 1 seconds. That means someone will drive an porsche boxter and I'm gonna drive suzuki swift. Surprisingly, I get the fastest lap every time. but in battle.. well lack of power can't win. but when I approach them at slow corners , and they scream when i do this... it's satisfying.

[@aaronamarok]

I wanted to learn how to import my own models to AC, so I added my daily driver- gave it a manual swap, and tried to get it as close to real as possible. It's actually quite a bit of fun highly reccomend!!

[@miltiadiskoutsokeras9189]

Time spent on a sub 200 bhp Honda in Sim racers: 70% of total time.

[@kyototomokui6676]

With the amount of body roll I would have confused that 86 for a 4A-GE-swapped 85.

[@ALFONIC]

Great video TSRB! There's a strange sense of satisfaction one can experience through driving these (older) stock cars. Especially those JDMs, which as you put it, are a lot of our guilty pleasures! Do you think you could give us directions to a download for these cars please? As I'm almost certain these aren't available in Assetto by default, I know the AE86 is but I noticed you were driving the levin (I think!) and I'd love to drive that exact one. Thanks for the videos you do, cheers!

[@nasky5186]

As someone who dailies a stock 96 Civic sedan, the car is a lot of fun. I have the V-tec version, which feels pretty nimble, but really starts going at like 5k RPM (80km/h in second gear) which is way too late, but can overtake modern cars on the highway cause they don't expect it to go that fast. Also, the gears so long you could get a speeding ticket going 60km/h in first NOTE: The current top speed in the car is held by a friend at 190km/h in fourth with quite a way to go to the redline (the car is a 5-speed)

[@owilliams1031]

4:35 I don’t even play any car racing simulators, but I can somewhat relate to the inconsistency of moving at high speeds with low tech. In Trainz, whatever the electric or even diesel locomotives are capable of, I always attempt the same thing with a steam locomotive.

[@TheDeka1989]

From my real life experience, Civic description is spot on: it driven like you want. I've never met understeer and i live near curvy roads. And on a side note, it's really spacy for a hatchback! We fit in 5 people with luggages and got enough room for hands. It's like a TARDIS

[@Icarossteven]

driving slow car is extremely fun! Can only recommend it for learning / practicing. Great video

[@fatihyucel6534]

i Just LOVE how ypu used the Subaru Legacy in shot 0:11 also i have the 3.0R in Real Life as a daily

[@canadiancobra9503]

200 hp ae86 helped me learn laguna seca, before i was a bottom 5 racer at the track in my league, now im regularly fighting for podiums there

[@shiro99744]

i love the Kivic

[@AloneRacecar]

I guess it explains a lot of why many racing games start you off with the slower cars. That way you’ll learn the game better instead of hoping into a race car from the get so only to be overwhelmed. 😅

[@secreteer]

bunta even said himself if you can master the 86 you can master anything implying the car is handles like dog poo

[@LikeAGroove]

I absolutely love that you use drum n bass for all of your videos since i love dnb, i subscribed because of that

[@Homerboy44]

I hate racing games that give you a supercar straight out of the gate or anyone who goes straight into them like a spoiled twitter child. Going for a supercar out of the gate is saying you're relying on the car's aero, power, tech, etc (or "It looks cool!"), and then start whining after crashing in the first corner. This is why most racing games give you those cheap-end cars as starter cars: they teach you learn how to &^@#%$! drive. I can go further if I need to, but I made my point.

[@owilliams1031]

I had an appointment at the Formula 1 Arcade in Boston last weekend, and they have five skill levels, but you’re driving a contemporary Formula 1 car no matter what. I picked level 5 so I could shift the gears and rely on intuition for steering and braking, only to find myself literally bouncing off the walls and completing one lap at the most. The only driving I’ve ever done in the flesh without the traffic laws was in a battery operated Kart at K1 speed in Wilmington. It didn’t even have a speedometer, so I could only decide whether to press the throttle or the brake, which were segregated by the steering column, by the way, based on the shape of the track before me and the positions of the other drivers. That Kart was probably still slower than any automobile I’ve ever driven outdoors.

[@driekjansen8623]

I drive a little Kia Picanto, and man is it fun to chuck it around corners, in my opinion much more fun than any full bred racecar. I feel more connected to the car, it's like an extension of my body, I will feel everything from wheels to suspension, and its easy to know what its gonna do because of that. And because of the slower speed of everything you learn very fast what the car can do and what it can't do.

[@coconutgaming7112]

I mostly play with faster cars, and I started to get bored with AssettoCorsa. So just a few days ago I started playing with slower cars on single player touge maps. It is so difficult and fun that I can say, I have never had this much fun on AC. Highly recommend it. I am currently trying to learn braking drift (Your video Guide was awesome) with some decent progress.

[@Mr_Twiglesworth]

All that body roll helps teach smooth steering input i love it

[@RandomGuy37]

Shitboxes are amazing. I have an old Corolla and as it doesn't have any kinds of assists (Apart from ABS which quite honestly does jackshit), so it has taught me how to drive at the edge of grip without a computer helping out. While driving home from my parents' place yesterday, I noticed people in much newer cars being unable to drive at the speed limit on the snowy and icy road despite of their way more advanced and easier to drive cars, so I just went past them in my old Corolla. I'd imagine at least some of them thought to themselves how the hell is that thing going that fast even on the corners. Only weakness it has is that it's so light that strong winds make it extremely uncomfortable to drive at speeds. But when it isn't windy I feel like I could find grip anywhere. So yeah, old shitboxes are the most awesome cars you could own

[@I_love_drifting]

The only upgrade i have on ae86s in games is stiff suspension, just like my irl trueno😂

[@BlueShift2000]

Can i say that my guilty pleasure since 2017 is? It is Nordschleife Tourist, with (almost any car tbh) the MX-5 NA. And VR. My best time i did with the complete standard Kunos NA (Setups etc standard) is 8:59 Also want to point out my one of my favourite, RX 7 Tuned and Drift. Especially online.

[@Tymanderr]

I learned on touge life 1, I played for 3 months straight no content creation at all until I was the quickest In the lobby 99% of the time lol. Love your vids man, slow cars is the answer to getting better. Fundamentals first.

[@dramen]

Slow cars are the best to drive, factooooooo. It's what games like forza and GT in the modern iterations fail to understand...we don't want hypercars after an hour, i'd rather keep racing my nissan micra or something for 10 hours if i want to just because of how FUN it FEELS!

[@n05ta1gia5]

The father in initial d made it very clear the a86 wasnt great for racing but it forces you to learn how to control the car. Which compounds the point of this video

[@collin3012]

I daily drive a 2012 Camaro SS and I spend way more time sim racing my camaro than actually racing it.

[@amazedrocket6666]

Did my man just say kivic

[@exnamekian]

I love non-downforce cars. Though the Shelby Cobra is a cooler car, the AE86 gave me far more fulfilment and fun. Also in Initial D Takumi's 86 was said to have modified and tuned suspension IIRC (even in season 1).

[@offbrandbiscuit]

Modified suspension and Ryosuke mentions the way it shifts at the start of the FD vs 86 race is similar to that of tranny gears intended for rallying, which he notes makes it ideal for the hairpins on Akina (Mt. Haruna)

[@initiald975]

A driving game that taught me the fundamentals was hilariously actually two free Roblox games by the same group, Devgem, who made Midnight Racing: Tokyo and Project Trackday, where as both games showed me sector times and gave me an idea for how to improve those times with shitty cars. Find a game with slower cars, with sector times listed each time, and you should gradually improve with time.

[@EEN-01E]

I like driving cars in sims as close to my own in real life as possible (2022 Ford Fiesta ST-Line with 92kW). I'm never going to do the stuff I do in sims in real life but I want to see what I can do with it if I'd gone mad, without consequences. Supercars are nice and all but just driving an equivalent of your own car as fast as you can is somehow quite rewarding (especially when you're not worried about damage and wear). I'd love to take my Fiesta to the Nurburgring virtually.

[@romie-777]

0:19 thats not how the poverty spec joke is supposed to work. its meant to be targeted towards rich people who buy a base model or base trim of an expensive car. (porsche boxster, mercedes gla, base model c8 corvette, etc)

[@stargazer2312]

That's why I love Gran Turismo. It doesn't only have high performance race cars, it also has a good share of unremarkable shitboxes that you can push to the limit like that.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

This whole video is why balanced-power sports cars with roughly 3.0-4.0L NA or 1.5-2.0L turbo engines, moderate suspension, mild to no aero, great tires, and good brakes are the bomb. Once you master those, THEN you can move up to the 2.5L-4.0L turbo and 5.0L-8.0L N/A to push the limits of drivability. Also, given those ranges, 3.0L-4.0L or so in general is the ideal range. Enough power N/A to get out of its own way and not be a "bore" when there are no corners (or you're trying to not look lame while showing off), and not TOO big that when you go boosted it's overpowered with high boost, or you underutilize it by going extra low boost like many turbo V8 dudes are doing.

[@01iverQueen]

I always been a fan of slow cars that are fun to drive in the corners

[@blastedcorpse271]

I lost it at "POVERTY SPEC" car.....hahaha. That was gold.

[@Sendit77]

the shits boxes are always the most fun driving down hill in a low powered car is just as good as driving up one with a high powered car. assetto corsa really is the gift that keeps giving

[@lucamicciche289]

I tried it myself and now the only cars i like to drive are slow metal carriages😂

[@QuiteAce]

Heres a bit of my personal experience with this. Me and a few buddies go to a dead twisty road every sunday to hang out and drive one. Someone the cars consist of a GR86, R32 GTR, 240SX, BMW M3 ect. Then theres my 2012 jetta with a 2.0l 8v making 115hp. But after mastering thr car and pushing it to its limits on this road I can keep up with these cars no issue what so ever.

[@lounatik]

This is why i find fun giving racing noobs the absolute top of the line insane of racecars then making them drive a stock GT86. It's both hilarious and educational since it teaches them that both of them are hard to drive in their own special way

[@trorsus6627]

your channel inspired me a good bit to get good at sim racing. which inspired me to get a s12 silvia irl. really good stuff and information here. its easy to understand for a beginner.

[@SaturnsRing98]

There's a reason why games like Gran Turismo and NFS Underground have you start off in lesser cars, and it's interesting to see the IRL logic at play.

[@azazel-k4l]

2:08 kivik🤓

[@demomanchaos]

One of my favorite types of cars to drive around circuits are old muscle cars, they are far quicker than they are given credit for if you can wrangle that massive lump of iron up front.

[@filippocossu2974]

I don't know why, but driving slow cars is a more fun, casual and overall enjoyable experience.

[@TurtleSauceGaming]

As someone who gets up in the wee mornings to bank the gentle slope over the local river on a highway at 80 mph who's curve is signed at "40mph," I feel this. Don't get me wrong, what I'm doing isn't really all that impressive. Realistically, they built a highway and said "ok, you can only go 55" due to traffic, but the curve can easily handle so much more, but to take a pickup with over 300k miles and just hit that long sweeping bend on way, and a gentle sway into the other, it just feels magical. A lot of it is also is as you learn your vehicle. Those little idiosyncrasies become muscle memory. You know where it can and can't go, and that's the beauty of driving a shitbox.

[@tractorguy1994]

I own the generation before the legacy you were driving in the video and can confirm that the power is more front bias.

[@snowthemegaabsol6819]

It took me 4 months to learn how to drive for a fast time, but 4 years to learn how to drive for a fun time.

[@celestia277]

this is exactly why B class or lower in forza horizon is so fun, i picked up a shitbox NA miata and it was just so much fun

[@2pac1411]

I had the most fun in my old '03 mazda 6 2.0 rusty as shit, 400k kms on the dash, and I drove it like it was a racecar Now I have a '07 6 MPS and yeah it's fun, but something about my old shitbox was just special.

[@AstroSalamander]

I perfer beaters to race cars. My first car was a 98 geo tracker and it was so fun to learn its limits. I got so attuned to it that i felt like i was one with the car or something lol

[@kridadkool1319]

4:10 IS THE FINIEST SHHHH !!

[@bullet_miata]

2:09 The “Kivvic” 👹👹

[@TSRB]

we do a little trolling

[@KachowCar]

I love the 3.0R legacy the body style is more sleek and smooth and its still sporty

[@vitormendes7839]

im 11 months late but i feel like its still worth it, the ae86 you were talking about isnt stock at any moment in the anime, thats why it doesnt handle like a milk box, everyone with a little amout of car knowledge knows that an 86 isnt ready to tackle akina straight from the factory ;)

[@FuchsiaShocked]

I started simracing in the slower production spec cars and then I just kinda mostly stayed there, only ever leaving them for touring or cup cars. I find the slower cars much more relatable to any kind of real life driving I'm ever going to do, and tbh I just enjoy it more. Also I'm convinced that racing in them levels the playing field somewhat between more highly skilled and newbie simracers.

[@kotarojujo2737]

also these slow cars have slow steering ratio and more lock to lock, that's make it more relatable because muscle memory for racecar isnt transferable to real life driving.

[@pinetree7296]

i dunno if it applies but in BeamNG i spent 20hrs just driving Semi-Trucks then jumped back into racing street/track tuned cars and i noticed i was more in control of the car mainly the handling around corners and keeping lanes smoother enter and exits don't know all the race lingo but i felt more confident racing pushing higher speeds.

[@Lucas_Fidalgo]

I own a 1.5 civic irl and that thing is the most fun for cheap you can have, near the mountains where I live it goes like a little kart and it somehow never understeers, I just suffer going uphill, the no torque joke is true....

[@LOLHICRONO]

the appeal of the ae86 was it was cheap to buy so they'd be able to spend more upgrading/tuning it. s13's were similar.

[@GTRFREAK17]

Best lesson I've learnt by only owning and driving slow cars is that it's mainly down to getting a good feel for your car and learning how to handle the weight as it moves around then you can feel for where the limits are and dance with them. Yet to play a simulation driving game but I've used the above lesson in more arcade games like GTA 4 & 5 - the older cars are immensely more enjoyable to drive spiritedly because of how outdated their handling components are (especially the rusty jalopys, hilarious to loose the cops in a car that has one wheel in the grave). You need to know how to transfer the weight around to get the most out of their outdated performance. Hopefully GTA 5 will give the option of a manual transmission - would be a gameplay changer in the best of ways! I think my resonances with pre 2010's cars is because of how analogue they feel, hopefully I'll never have to get a newer car - currently loving my daily driver 2003 Toyota Corolla hatch and weekend cruiser 1998 Yamaha Virago, used to own a 1975 Toyota Crown and 1978 Chrysler Scorpion too!

[@Fusion710]

literally even in video games i worry less about crashing and banging up boxes compared to high performance stuff 😂

[@NoahBoner]

Limiting quality in anything will help you improve. When you turn off aim assist in a game and then turn it back on the same thing applies

[@RTPJu]

In simulation, road cars is pure fun, but in real life there is a lot of heating, brake fade and lack of safety to deal with... both fast and slow. Racing build or modified cars tend to deal with this stuff and are the proper way to go to track. Same in the discussion about old vs new cars. My favorite ever simulation cars are the Classic Touring cars pack for AC or anything similar to that (old low spec cars that were barely modified to go racing... as the Alfa Giulia GTAm that right out of the box could be homologated to streets, touring or rally just by changing the tires and turning some knobs under the hood). But that stuff in real life, in 2023, is barely doable (not even considering the costs... pretend we have the money) because new cars are way better in usability (maintenance, durability, safety, etc) that the "car driving feeling" wouldn't be enough to compensate.

[@Kacpa2]

How on earth is Legacy IV gen a "rustbucket/sh*tbox"? If anything base model imprezas are that.

[@GeekinOnThursdays]

"And lets not forget about the... kivik"

[@chiefindica8534]

Came for the tips. Stayed for the Kivic.

[@vv09]

That EK civic sedan got me..

[@kiwicombat9629]

This is why Gran Tourismo 4 is such an amazing game, it starts you in shitboxes that teach you how to drive, then you can drive the fast cars.

[@sebastianzarek7056]

8:30 I was just the opposite haha. I was much better at rally stages with historical crap and touges with shitboxes than at circuits, even with slow cars like the MX-5 Cup. I still think I'm much better at these than at circuit racing, but the gap tightened.

[@vladimirzaika3594]

once i had ford c-max hybrid on low profile tires, that was perfect for Georgian(Sakartvelo) mountains, height power, 95 miles per hour speed limit as not a deal, but 185 hp are

[@eliangodrix26]

I remember in NFS Prostreet where I was faster with a 240sx and slower with the R34, because the 240sx was so good at cornering, I never hit the brakes and always full throttle the car, where the R34 is was constantly shooting brakes at any small curves

[@jauntyy1891]

Most cars are too fast for me on touge anyways. I love hopping in an Ae86 or GT86 with my friend and getting right up on his bumper trying to pass him. It’s much more fun!

[@IPlayKindred]

dude where are you?

[@sirtristan01]

1000% my attitude! I want more realistic useable IRL skills

[@mr22jk2]

Whenever I drive a few day with shit boxes, I'm faster in Gt3 afterwards. You gain lots of laptime in low speed corners where the downforce isn't as strong and you have to rely on mechanical grip. And that's exactly what you practice in those unmodified street cars

[@moddudlar3894]

good tunes as always

[@Sveta-private]

don't want to be nit picky but poverty spec is a term used if somebody has a base model luxury or super car. It's used if they bought an car just for it's brand and not performance or driving pleasure

[@gelatinous6915]

Tip for driving that subaru shitbox: because it has open front and rear differentials, you need to agressively left-foot-brake to stop the front axle from sapping all the power from the viscous coupling (which also acts a lot like an open differential, meaning a lot of power can get sent to the outer front tire during cornering). I'd know because I have one, unfortunately. Kids, save your money and buy an STI. Open differentials are awful.

[@deathbox6226]

Remember Boonta tuned the suspension

[@SeanCampbell_iRacing]

Tsubaki line is an inspired choice

[@Drajwin]

You should try FSO Polonez ATU Plus. Words cannot describe what happens while driving

[@miniotgf2]

2:09 kiwik?

[@Yakuzer86]

As the stock ae86 main tottaly agree, when you will learn shitboxes, ull get better expirience with faster cars

[@noobingaroundpt7167]

The slower you go on straights, the faster you go on turns

[@ConstantinGrudda]

I wonder if one could laser himself a wild build plate