Tuned F150 5.0L V8 vs Tuned Ecoboost On Drag Strip and Dyno - The Haul

Naturally aspirated or twin turbos? On this episode of The Haul Justin puts a tuned V8 vs a tuned EcoBoost side by side on the drag strip and dyno! Watch and find out who comes on top!
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[@bryansmith1237]

Think about this. These are 5000 pound trucks running 14.5's. That was Mustang GT acceleration back in the early 90's. So we basically have stock trucks that with some more tuning could dip in the 13's. We live in good times.

[@inactive67]

There ya go

[@krispewkrem3]

Hell, that’s nearly what my BMW 435i is doing. I sold it and got a 2015 F-150. I don’t think I will own a car again, except for maybe a fun weekend driver.

[@TexasPapa13]

There’s f150s here in Texas running 11s

[@oldmusher]

Think about this: The 800+ horsepower Challenger demon red eye (whatever it is) also weighs 5000 pounds with driver. (6.17 lb/hp) I have a 51 Ford pickup with a 650 hp Windsor that weighs 3000 pounds. (4.6 lb/hp) Don't want to seem overconfident...but...

[@Acaidia]

@@oldmusher Which Windsor and what's done to it? I'm guessing pretty much everything considering its 650hp lol.

[@charleshenson4183]

Moral of the story,do NOT get a crappy bama tune.

[@Murican_Ghost]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Haha

[@johnhenry6848]

Risk losing your factory warranty, if she goes down, all for roughly 3 tenths of a second. Sounds logical. Lol

[@siclt1]

That why you need a mpt 93 PRX tune went 13.3 @ 107 with 33’s on it

[@johnhenry6848]

I just bought a new 3.5 4x4 supercrew. A little disappointed-thought it would atleast feel a little quicker than the older 16’ with its power gain and 10 speed, but mine sure doesnt. Want to wake it up a touch, but just dont want to jeopardize the warranty if that lazy shifting 10 speed does happen to grenade. If its tuned and it does have a problem and needs dealer work, can you flash it back to stock and make it so a tune was undetectable?

[@siclt1]

zukimaniac tune only yes haven’t tried my e30 tune yet. But I love the MPT TUNE really wakes the truck up.

[@f-150malico8]

no matter how you feel about the ecoboost you can’t deny it pushes pretty good power for a v6

[@americantrucks]

Crazy what two turbos will do to an engine. 😉 -Zach

[@Bthunder560]

Put the twin turbo on a coyote

[@stout7668]

Well with an actual tuner that works. Exhaust and intake it will run mid 12s Check out 5 star tuning

[@samuelyeet6006]

@@Bthunder560 thats a silly way to look at it 🤷‍♂️ factory vs factory, thats like racing a gas vs a diesel, and saying, well if you put that turbo on the gas it would win.. silly

[@Nismax09]

@@Bthunder560 they'll never do that

[@jcavalliery]

2.7 all day, and I have a 5.0 mustang. The f150 eco is just like a ninja. I love the V8 sound, but you can't beat the silent killing of the eco...

[@rockie307]

For all practical purposes they look equal. The v8 gets better fuel mileage when towing the EcoBoost gets better when empty. I'll take the v8 for less maintenance and upkeep.

[@charliekohn4271]

Real world the EcoBoost and v8 get the same fuel economy unloaded. And once your into the higher speed limits around the country the v8 wins out over the ec-or-boost.

[@randycupp5925]

@@charliekohn4271 The 3.5 gets 3-4 mpg better than the 5.0 and the 2.7 gets roughly 5 mpg better than the 5.0. Go to fuelly.com and view hundreds of real world non biased fuel records... 5 mpg might not sound like much but if you have the 36 gallon tank that is an extra 180 miles on every tank of gas with the 2.7 liter.

[@moose2934]

I drive a LOT and often sit in my vehicle for over 12 hours a day. I am so conflicted as to what size and engine choice in going to purchase - since I want a SuperCrew AND a 6.5” bed with the 2.7. But idk in all honesty, the 3.5 is impressive, but the extra mpg of the 2.7 seems like a more economical decision.

[@charliekohn4271]

@@randycupp5925 I've had real world experience with both 3.5 and 5.0 trucks and the 5.0 has always matched or beat the 3.5 depending on conditions. For example the last 1 way 3 hour 80mph run we made the 5.0 in the group made both directions on far less gas and it had more bikes,gear, and people in it.

[@randycupp5925]

@@charliekohn4271 Awesome! Good to hear that you have real world experience with both. I am not trying to advocate for any particular engine choice. I just think people should research what is best for them before they purchase.

[@rivercityracer3683]

TO SAVE YOU SOME TIME! Racing is at 8:00 Stock for stock the ecoboost ran 14.64 @93.77mph. The coyote ran 14.66 @95.61mph. The coyote trapped about 2 mph faster. The ecoboost reached the line first by two one hundredths of a second. The tune somehow made the ecoboost only marginally faster for such a big gain on a dyno chart, trapping about the same as the stock coyote but dropping 3 tenths, which is decent. The coyote went a tenth quicker and trapped slightly slower with a tune....? Not sure what else to say. Go to Lund or AED for a coyote tune.

[@jordanvineyard1903]

Thanks bud

[@MormonMustang_]

Or palm beach dyno

[@arizonacolour8793]

My brotha!!

[@mcbuckets364]

Thank you always someone! 🙏

[@ericfraley]

I was surprised when I saw the time difference with the ecoboost after the tune. I don’t know if they did more runs than that one, but I think something was off or the tune was off. Especially since on the dyno it only gained 30 rwtq. I’ve seen much bigger gains from tunes only on ecoboosts. I can tell you from personal experience that a good tune makes a MUCH bigger difference than what they had. I’ve seen a KZbin video from fast lane trucks that had before/after at a drag strip with tune only and although I don’t remember the 1/4 mile times, the 0-60 times went from 5.9 stock to 4.4 with tune only. 1.5 seconds for 0-60 is going to be a much bigger gain in the 1/4 mile than what these guys had.

[@davidlodovico1563]

Owned a 2012 Ecoboost and currently own a 2014 Coyote. At 67k miles the Ecoboost went into limp home mode. Condensation from the inter cooler got into the cylinders. The Coyote is still running strong at 107k miles. I’ll stick with the Coyote, thank you very much! Plus it sounds great with the Flowmaster Super 44!

[@chrismoore7775]

V8 old school. Less to go wrong.

[@JayRSwan]

@@chrismoore7775 the Coyote is far from the old school. The push-rod LS engines are old school.

[@aryanrahim1255]

Had the same problem. The eco boost just don’t last.

[@JayRSwan]

@@aryanrahim1255 there first gens don't. 2018+ they made a lot of changes to fix their previous Eco boost shortcomings. Strictly speaking The 3.5 as no changes have been made to the 2.7

[@KellenStunts]

You’re supposed to drain the inter coolers and add an oil catch. That alone goes a long way.

[@BornGaming32]

5 Star Tuning has the 5L over 400hp/400tq at the wheels on 93 octane

[@Tb0n3]

Less than the stock tune on the 3.5 on regular. Pathetic.

[@davidbarbee1276]

@@Tb0n3 The Stock Tuned 3.5 was 321 HP and 370 Torque at the tires.... Even tuned the 3.5 ecoboost give 373 hp So getting over 400hp at the tires is way more than an ecoboost 3.5. But if you want to compare apples to apples, we can boost the 5.0 coyote, Roushe sells the supercharged coyote thru the Ford dealerships and it even comes with a 100 000 mile warranty and makes over 650 hp and the crew cab does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds

[@zayedalsuwaidi7697]

@@davidbarbee1276 Pretty dope

[@scarletgonzales840]

@@davidbarbee1276 The Raptor eco boost 450 hp ,that engine is also put into some limited editions.

[@boyertb]

The moral of the story is to boost that Yote.

[@Rockhouse491]

That's what I'm saying

[@blown5.062]

Right on, cant go wrong with a blown5.0 !!

[@JD-rq7il]

@@blown5.062 It really depends on the money you want to invest! Personally, I can't justify the cost of adding the blower, but with my Eco, I just snuck into the 11's with a tune, panel filter, and removed resonator! Obviously if you want to get serious, the 5.0 is the way to go!

[@GhostlyGhille]

@Waylon Miller true but I work at a ford dealer I had a customer come here with corsa and Mbrp exhaust he sounded like a baby diesel.

[@dylanmiller8661]

7k later lol

[@a232701]

If it's that close I'm going for sound! 5.0 all day

[@justintexas5306]

Depends on driver. I run. A 5.4 to 5.6 1/8 mile in my 2.7L v6 EcoBoost f150

[@TurboNFRStwoK]

Depends on how much towing you do. If you don’t tow much then absolutely go 5.0. I own a 2015 3.5eb and I love the massive towing torque. Actually I love everything about it... except for the sound... I HATE the way it sounds but I tow all the time so its Something I have to deal with. But If both those truck were strapped with max weight 12k lbs trailers I can guarantee the EB would gap the coyote bad.

[@devinespinoza5529]

If its a 2018 and up Ecoboost then there is no chance for the 5.0

[@johntavarez5056]

Justin Gibson No way you run those numbers in the 1/8 unless it’s a built drag truck and i still doubt it

[@thisistheslam]

But are you drag racing your truck? If so, why did you buy a truck?

[@outdoorlife5396]

Moral of the story, the 5.0 has a good base to start with. Charger, turbos your wants and pocket book be your guide

[@paulhunter9613]

Too bad you have to tune it to get any power out of it

[@anthonywood4894]

Honestly I’m ecstatic over the factory power of my 2022 F150 5.0. That thing is a beast on sports mode and sounds so much better than the eco boost when you push that V8. It feels more like a sports car than a truck a lot of times.

[@bigtimechief]

I switched my 22 over to sport for the first time the other day and I was surprised. Big jump from normal

[@JayRSwan]

I picked up a powerboost the other day. I will never sound like a v8, but that 430hp and 570ft-lb is no joke. Now that it is tuned, I added 100hp and 90ft-lb more! Leaving the exhaust stock as the V6 sounds gross, but it's nice I can plug the camper into the back and run it off the hybrid battery. The air conditioner and all!

[@paulhunter9613]

@@JayRSwan the only one hearing your exhaust is the fiveoh owner as you are pulling away..😳😝

[@ross7684]

This was info I've been interested in learning about since I got my first F150 back in 2015. From my perspective after watching the video, you really don't get much gain with either for the money of the tune. I tow so will stay with my stock 2019 3.5 Eco.

[@thollingsworth4910]

I just picked up a regular cab 4x4, 5.0 and I absolutely love it.

[@donsvideos1985]

I'm running a 2011 F150 Ecoboosted 2wd W/ Magnaflow catback, AFE stage 2 CAI and 5star tune on the SCT tuner. Bought the truck new and still love it!

[@RafaelMartinez-ju3tn]

I have an ecoboost and love it but I have always been a V8 fan in heart and I’m impressed of the similarities in both of them after the upgrade

[@specforged5651]

All you did was prove “BAMA tune”....whoever the hell they are....don’t know what the hell they are doing.

[@BreckoniousMaximus]

Preach on brother!

[@jamesmiller7911]

Exactly. That EcoBoost tune wasn't right.

[@jackflash6377]

Too many others getting 400 plus out of the Eco.

[@corynickoleff767]

Yeah, 5-Star all the way

[@corynickoleff767]

@@jackflash6377 Even the 5.0 tune was trash

[@danielfish101]

I'd still go for the v8, way more potential and reliability

[@Treyk901]

Danosaur a 3.5 Ecoboost tuned properly will put down 533 tq and 469 hp at the wheels. This bama tune in this video is an absolute joke.

[@johncramer99]

Same here. Love to see a long term side by side full output load pull. This test really doesn't prove anything for longevity.

[@davidmichaelseven]

No

[@polywoggins]

Uhhhh...NA vs FI...lol...you are new to this huh?

[@tywilliamson2472]

If its built after 2018, ive got to disagree. They removed the cylinder liners in the aluminum block and replaced it with some slick spray. Works about as well as you expect, look up some videos of the sound and the scarring

[@OldPongGeezer]

Nice video! Lost me a bit with the dyno test data, but I got the idea. Best part of this video for me was seeing how big a difference wheels and tires make to get that beastie look - when you rolled those two back onto the dyno machine back at the shop. Also, "Donkeys" and "Pigs"...LOL.

[@brady_bigbear]

Would be awesome to get a bolt on/tune comparison of the two to show if additional mods outside of a tune make a difference.

[@kevinbreese5739]

I run the OZ tune w/E85 on my 2018 Supercrew XLT 5.0 and it's a low 13 second truck. It's a rocket for a big supercrew 4x4. Also put a $100 magnaflow muffler on and it sounds great too. For the record, I have stock 20" wheels/tires and stock suspension. Lifts and especially Big heavy wheels and tires slow these trucks down tremendously.

[@IneptSoldier]

5.0 ... I love the sound of my 5.0

[@chazkrueger2911]

same. I added a cold air intake to my 2016. idle is quieter but once you punch the gas, it growls like crazy. love it

[@thesavior2398]

i also believe the ecoboost is a bunch of lies... eco boost has been known to get worse fuel eco while towing... my 5.0 got 24mpg going 75mph it was also 4wd

[@IneptSoldier]

I have the borla attak on mine with a cold air filter and it sounds amazing

[@samduran5180]

I love the shit out of my 16' 5.0 f150 but damn she burns oil, anyone else have this problem?

[@niftycritter1870]

5.0 is nice for ladies. Men drive Hemis 😎

[@fishinman539]

Just bought a 2017 3.5 ecoboost love it!

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

The 5.0 held its own pretty damn well. I just don’t trust smaller engines with turbos as much as an N/A v8 when it comes to actual reliability. And you can’t argue with the sound of a v8. Heck, sound is half of it. If they could just make the eco boost actually sound good, they would sell way more.

[@clyde_kentucky6744]

They literally sell more ecoboost f150’s then 5.0 🥱 sorry

[@AzzKicker-bz1cb]

@Tony The Truck Guy I’m with you on the no trust in twisting the nuts on a squirrel to make a 6 run like an 8 cylinder, regardless of the platform(car vs. truck)!!! As far as whether the Eco-flop sells more than the 5.0 Coyote, that has more to do with those near tree huggers and idiots who think they are getting better performance initially than the truth over time!!! When I was growing up(back when it was Mustangs making these kind of numbers and trucks couldn’t touch low 16’s) if you were going to add a turbo or a supercharger to and engine, the very FIRST thing you did was to overbuild the bottom end of the motor(forged crank, forged pistons, splayed four bolt main bearings,stronger piston rings), then you upgraded the heads with studs for fastening hardware, roller rocker arms, better lifters and improved push rods, then you added the turbo or supercharger!!! I can guarantee that none of that has been done for these mass produced, short life, exploder motors!!! The fact that there aren’t massive complaints about major engine failures with these eco-bitch motors is simply because Ford manufacturing has got to be suppressing the information!!! For all the reasons I just pointed out, those eco-bombs are just that, bombs waiting to explode!!! Yes, every engine is capable of a catastrophic failure regardless of it’s make up! But when the engine is built small to begin with, then you add a device that increases internal pressures exponentially, without building the failure points stronger to prevent failures, FAILURE is the best you can expect!!!

[@edicius9411]

ecoboost motor is better

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

@@edicius9411 Well I would call it an engine to start. But based on what evidence?

[@yeanah2571]

I mean, sound or not, the 3.5 Ecoboost is the same motor that won Lemans. I love coyotes, but that racing pedigree means I refuse to make fun of Ecoboosts

[@finleyslawncare]

Love my 5.0. Music to my ears!!!

[@aaronryherd6607]

Hell yah. Love mine!

[@megastarsport]

I want a supercharged 5.0 so bad

[@bretfeeney1072]

why not a 5.0l with small turbo? just an option.

[@hankclingingsmith8707]

Get a pastime gig and save. Stop watching t v

[@megastarsport]

@@hankclingingsmith8707 I work full time and I'm about to be a full time student. I don't even have time to watch TV

[@drw1926]

Yes please.

[@FtmfwId]

I love my F150. Its an absolute riot on E85. The Whipple supplies enough air to rev it out too, i redline at 7200. With headers it sounds amazing

[@egghead992]

5.0 for the long haul. Redo this test after 100,000 miles I’d say 5.0 all day.

[@johnsommer7815]

110,230 miles on my 2014 5.0. Still runs like a champ

[@ProjectFairmont]

Why? The 3.5 has a more direct valve actuation; direct acting lobe over bucket vs. followers for the Coyote. Also the 3.5 revs 1000 rpm less at WOT shift. More cylinders does not simply mean more durable...duh.

[@egghead992]

S Schroeder I respect your choice, I chose the 8 over the 6 for long haul towing I believe the 5.0 will out haul and get there first over the 6.

[@johnsommer7815]

Why? Because living in Alaska is fucking tough. Which means tough on whatever equipment you're running. Hands down, I'd choose the 5.0 over any of ford's dumbass gas motors. Saying that, over half of the people who thought/bought the POS ecoboost, broke down and couldn't hang. As far as longetivity. Like I said, fuck that ecoboost

[@ProjectFairmont]

john sommer BS, save your self riotous bias.

[@morganmcquiggan9497]

If you just take a look at these priceless beautiful trucks. The 3.5 and 5.0 both presenting unbelievable power and specs. What a great performance package. Amazing machines.... “We’re going to take these do keys to the track”

[@BrandenLopez]

I love my ecoboost, but man does the coyote sound good!

[@scarletboa]

Agreed. The 3.5 ecoboost was an easy choice for me when I bought my 2019 f150. I used to have a 2011 mustang with the 5.0 coyote. I miss the sound, but only until that low-end torque kicks in.

[@mclroy]

Love my 2015 wco too. But next one will be a coyote.

[@Happyandiknowit69]

Agree!! I had the 5.0 with a 40 series dumped but now I have the ecoboost. Lol you just cant beat the power and the towing of the EB. Just do the VTE mod it makes up for the sound

[@_E_B_]

@@scarletboa I test drove a 2019 f150 with the 3.5L and 3.55 gears. Was not as impressed as the hype I heard before I drove it. From 0-40 it felt lazy. I didnt feel this "mountain" of low end torque people keep talking about lol. Had alot of turbo lag. At about 50-60 mph it felt a little more peppy. But that 10 speed sure wasn't as quick shifting as Ford advertised them to be. Not trying to knock your truck. Just didnt have the experience everyone else said they have when they drive it. And I was coming from a 2015 quad cab 4x4 ram with the hemi and 8spd. The 2019 f150 did not feel any quicker. Also test drove a 2019 Silverado 4 door 10 speed with the 6.2L. Again...not impressed. I really think the tuning software in the new 10 speed for ford and chevy is what holds both trucks back. Anywho. Not knocking on you or your truck.

[@joshuarounds7180]

Evan Bozajian when the transmission is in normal mode the truck is a little lazy but when in sport mode it takes off like a rocket! I have a ‘17 3.5 ecoboost screw 4x4 with the 3.55 gears btw. I think there is a lot of torque management going on to keep from damaging the drivetrain and to help with fuel economy as well.

[@gbaileyo7]

I've had both and I love both!

[@SIAS92]

I’m team can’t afford it 🙃

[@izakalquist5831]

Seth Squires same bro

[@heckingoodboy634]

No shit man, it took me like 10 years before i could buy a new truck, you'll get there! Just save, and get good credit 0% makes a HUUUUGE difference!

[@skipmartin3469]

In November of 2017 I went to the Ford Truck dealer, and told them I want a truck with electric windows and mirrors. I drove away with a 3.5 EB with more power than any car I ever owned before. Score. I think I own one of the few 2WD, standard cab, long bed F150 in my area. Lovin' it to this day.

[@John-sc4sn]

Eco-boost FX 2 4 inch exhaust, blow off valve, K&N intake and Diablo sport tuner, 220,000 miles on it and still kicking A$$

[@Tat2Power]

John 2 ever have an issue with duel in the oil?

[@John-sc4sn]

Jeffrey Sikora Yes I have if I try to daily it on a hot tune I will get fuel in the oil I keep it stock most of the time only turn it up on special occasions

[@questionblechoices]

I have a 2013. With all most the same but with 5 star tune. Yes, just like most boosted motors you will get blow by to the crank. Just change the oil like you would on an old car 3 to 5k miles, depending what your doing with it. Also, get a good catch can.

[@Tat2Power]

Thanxx guys. Can I ask a stupid question? If you pull in and check the oil right away. Is the dipstick covered about all the way up? I get crazy high oil levels and if I do. later the level goes back down towards the normal zone. I was told by the dealer that when you drive oil comes up the down tube for the dipstick. And if you had the dipstick out oil would spray all over. I’ve never seen this on older vehicles. Any opinion?

[@nickcortese990]

Why would you even buy a truck if it wasn't a 4wd?

[@adamrice1805]

Great equal comparison. I would like to see what both trucks do with a 5 star tune. Their website says 110 HP and 130 FT Lbs gained with just a tune on the ecoboost.

[@christophershall84]

Thank you for your videos, you are helping me make my mind up on what ford I wanted, your video just made it real easy for me to decide finally...

[@americantrucks]

Glad we're able to help out and you enjoy them! -Zach

[@ajaxmaintenance5104]

I’ve owned both Ecoboost and 5.0 litre F-150’s, and the 5.0 was my favourite. Not as much bottom end torque but it sounded way cooler.

[@02hreblue30]

which means zero for performance

[@JackofTrades21]

@@02hreblue30 sounds cooler = I’m a retard everybody

[@CasanovaFluff]

At least the guy at the red light who you’ll never meet will say “hey that sounds like all the other trucks on the road.” Anybody who cares about performance will go with the ecoboost. But nice sound bro. Lol

[@dirtbeard108]

@@CasanovaFluff anyone that cares about performance will do more than a simple tune. Throw a GT intake on the 5.0 and watch the EB cry.

[@mxr248]

@@dirtbeard108 ya but he’s talking about stock!!! The fact ford eco boost kills all other v8 manufacturers!

[@OliG2]

Since the 2.7 EB if the F150s most popular engine overall (and what I own as well) I'd love to see a 2.7 EB tested under the same conditions (same lift/wheels/tires, same tuner, same dyno, same track, similar weather) and then compare to the 3.5 EB and the 5.0 !

[@02hreblue30]

yes, Graphite block pushes more boost. Like a diesel block. 2.7 rocks

[@dudestuff1557]

So would you guys get the 2.7 or coyote?

[@rozlegion9187]

@@dudestuff1557 I personally have a 2.7 and love her but I would love to have a coyote

[@Soupcan35]

@@rozlegion9187 Same!

[@toshmago]

Great job giving the 5.0 guys some hope @americantrucks. A properly tuned only 3.5 will drop almost 2 seconds off that quarter mile time depending on setup. The 5.0s have alot more work to do to catch up.

[@thebluntandonly]

I have the the Blue Jeans Metallic FX4 2015 and it is by far my favorite vehicle I have ever owned. I got the sports package but it only gets like 13.9mpg. I definitely drive it carefully in the rain when turning but when its dry it is a great lil speedy truck and the space for the supercrew is superb. A very fine truck.

[@thebluntandonly]

meant to add the 3.5 eco :) very nice motor

[@thisistheslam]

Got my 16 F-150 2.7L EB and it's got plenty of get-up for me to enjoy and plenty of torque for the kind of towing I do if I need it. Everyday driving is what matters to me and while I LOVE the sound of that throaty V8 I can't help but lean toward practicality. I don't need to pay 15%+ more for fuel just to get the good sound. Ford is doing it right with the EB engines and these 2nd gen EBs in the 2015-2019 F150s are much more reliable than the 1st gen and since I don't drag race a TRUCK I'm not worries about the 1/4 mile time, although it's no surprise that the 3.5 EB wins out when you consider the power/weight ratio and the advantage that turbos offer to a naturally-aspirated V8 which doesn't get that same *cheat code* benefit that turbos offer. But to each their own - get a truck that you like and if you got money to blow, get the V8.

[@02hreblue30]

bingo

[@billybeemus3929]

The real story here is that in stock form, either truck turns a mid-14 second quarter mile. Sick muscle cars from the late 60s ran those kinds of numbers on factory tires.

[@Brian_195]

Love the performance and sound of my 2019 Roush Coyote, especially with the Roush exhaust. But, definite props to the EcoBoost, too. But, a Bama tune is not where it’s at. I went with the Oz Omega X tune and I couldn’t be any happier with the performance and outright power from Oz.

[@daydaysilver]

I went with MBRP exhaust the AFE 11 airflow kit and my coyote on 33" 305's dominates pretty well everything up to 220. First 4 gears is ridiculous than 5 and 6th is just limitless

[@02hreblue30]

Roush is good but VASTLY overpriced and on trade you will never realize the money. Never

[@Brian_195]

@@02hreblue30 If you pay the full asking price, which I didn’t pay anything close to. I couldn’t have modded a regular Lariat with everything I have on my Roush Lariat for less than I paid for my Roush. I paid $60K for my Roush brand new, that came with a Fox 2.0 leveling suspension, a Roush cat-back exhaust, 33” all-terrain tires, a console safe, fender flares and more. So, getting $20K off the tag was not a bad deal for my Roush, brand new, at all.

[@nightowl3582]

That V8 growl is hard to give up, man.

[@americantrucks]

There's nothing wrong with a good old fashion V8, that's for sure! -Zach

[@02hreblue30]

love my quiet Eco. I have a Voodoo, had a 5.0, and now on second Eco. Love quiet power and the towing is amazing. Passing power incredible

[@r6master69]

Do what I did then. 5.0 cat ecoboost truck. My ecoboost truck is so nice to drive me car gets neglected lol

[@paulhunter9613]

@nightowl The growl you here is because it’s low on oil,, again

[@jesseontiveros9074]

I used to be a Chevy guy for many years, but after buying a Ford 2019 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost 6 cylinder and now I'm a Ford Guy. Ford has more space in the cabin and improved on the engine. I just purchased an F-150 2021 Coyote 4x4 and I see the difference. I just purchased a cold air intake to get more HP and a little more fuel economy. Currently I get about 19mpg on highway and 16mpg city. I'll post the new numbers after I get that cold air intake installed.

[@jerrypolete5258]

It’s amazing how well the ecoboost keeps up with the 5.0 coyote being that the ecoboost is a 6 cylinder. I would lean towards the ecoboost since you’re getting about the same performance but less money out of pocket. I’m glad Ford came out with the ecoboost, it’s a ecobeast!

[@jerettbell4147]

the 2.7 ecoboost is no cost base engine, the 5.0 adds a few thousand to the price, and the 3.5 liter adds an additional few grand, just bought a new 5.0!

[@acdii]

@@jerettbell4147 Actually, if you buy it for towing, the 5.0 will cost more by the time you add the missing options that Max Tow adds, and still not have the full capacity.

[@jcallen21]

If you plan on keeping the truck past warranty. You're better off with the 5.0 .

[@kylezarnowski8285]

@@acdii if ur buying a gas engine half to pickup for for towing ur prolly not gonna be in good shape anyway...obviously it depends on the weight ur towing but lets say ur towing 7500 pounds or more on the regular the engine wont hold up anyway. That goes for any gas engine in any manufacturers platform.

[@Bigfish1day]

Jerry Polete Talk to me about ecoboost after 150K miles, will be broken if it lasts

[@tcreed1143]

Love that F150 on right , lovely color 👍👍

[@patmason7276]

Had two other ecoboost now have a hybrid 430hp and 570 lb ft of torque. Love the 5.0 but ecoboost is a torque monster!!!

[@stevelutzke9600]

5.0 is my preference. I admit the Eco is quick and has a good power curve. I just believe the 5.0 is so much less complicated and cheaper to maintain in the long run. I find it interesting that people I talk to with the Eco will brag about their fuel mileage and then after they get rid of them and get a 5.0 they say it’s not that much different. These are the 2015 to 2017 trucks, don’t know if newer ones are different. I’ve watched more than one comparison where they interview mechanics at a Ford dealership and all but a few will say they prefer the 5.0. That being said to each your own. It depends on what you do with your truck and what is important to you.

[@paulhunter9613]

The mechanics love the v8, they have house and boat payments that depend on that engine

[@RamblinAround]

Definitely would go with a Coyote, it just sounds so much better. Plus, you can throw a Whipple on it and then you really have something.

[@svtvenom3264]

Yes only cost 1/3 of the truck to throw the whipple on their

[@masoninman2702]

My dad’s got the 2016 with the coyote. Have to say, it’s my favorite vehicle i’ve ever driven. It’s such a fun truck to drive

[@tinoarreguin8850]

What's a Whipple? I'm looking for a F150 with the Coyote.

[@gabrielgarza3079]

@@tinoarreguin8850 it's a brand of supercharger. I just got a Coyote, and it's awesome. Love it!

[@OneShotStopp]

Tino Arreguin whipple supercharger

[@MASFATNINJA]

Just got my 150 Lariat sport 3.5 and I can tell you it blows the doors off of my former Ram Rebel 3.6 and as much as I loved my Rebel the Lariat Sport is much nicer but the Sport was 73k new and the Rebel was 45k new. Happy with the upgrade. I also am not one for loud noises so the more quiet Eco is fine with me vs the louder v8

[@copykonsmusic1065]

I have the V8 5.0 and it's a BEAST just as stock

[@americantrucks]

Its definitely hard to beat an N/A V8! -Zach

[@forresthodge1024]

Eh, it's similar to how the old 302 windsor was in the F-150's. It was okay, but it didn't have great low end grunt so you had to be willing to get on the gas in order to get the thing moving at a decent clip. The Coyote is a high strung engine, it makes most of it's power at higher RPMs. Fine for a Mustang, but not ideal for a truck. The 10 speed really helps the Coyote more than it does the EB. With the older six speed trucks, the EB had a decisive advantage, it's got gobs of low and mid-range torque (which is what you want in a truck), so it moved the truck around with less effort. The ten speed brings the coyote up to near parity in terms of outright performance as it keeps the coyote on boil when you're on a full-throttle run. The EB doesn't benefit as much from the ten speed as it has a wider powerband.

[@davidbleichroth8860]

Gonna agree Stock to stock when I throw the 5.0 into sport mode I end up taking the e boosts by a length or 2 I don’t get it. I get Ford wants the E boost to be the future but...

[@02hreblue30]

@@forresthodge1024 well said. The Eco just does it so easily. On the highway the Eco just has gobs of passing power

[@02hreblue30]

@@davidbleichroth8860 uhhhhh. Eco has performance mode which makes it faster too. Stupid 5.0 comment as usual with zero evidence

[@screaminc10holder50]

Tossing a 3.5 Gen2 Raptor motor into my 65 Falcon Wagon... Motor has 924 miles on it... Gonna be a fun ride.

[@AkronKid330]

Yeah buddy! I would probably get the Ecoboost but I love the sound of the v8!!

[@dewrus2153]

So, to recap what we learned today, Ford just needs to make a 5.0EB. By my calculations, that would make about 535hp and 576tq at the wheels on this truck. That was easy...now Ford...get to it!

[@edwinyoung2719]

Craig Williams your missing his point the same would happen with the 5.0 as with the v6 it would give better power and fuel mileage . Though quite honestly I’ve never seen an eco boost out fuel mileage a 5.0

[@dewrus2153]

@@craigwill4324 - Of course I know this...I was kinda making a joke. Sorry it was not obvious enough for you. A 5.0 EB would be awesome but Ford will never do it. Could you imagine if they did, though?

[@Treyk901]

A properly tuned 3.5 Ecoboost on E50 puts down 553 hp and 617 tq at the wheels...

[@maximeemond2009]

@@Treyk901 yeah ok everybody runs e50 in their daily's... smh

[@Treyk901]

Maxime Emond actually lots of people do... and there are good tunes for the 5.0 using E85 making nice power. Since you know, the 5.0 is a flex fuel daily driver vehicle after all...

[@texastoyz9341]

I have the 2018 Coyote and my son has a 2016 3.5 ecoboost. Never tried to race him as i already know the results. But, that first cold start up with my flowmasters is music to my ears compared to his. Just have always been a v8 guy and never cared about turbochargers as if they go out , thats a pretty penny to be paying for some new turbochargers. But, he loves his ecoboost and i love me some Coyote....

[@aixpert291]

Excellent test. Good to know.

[@bennyjames5090]

I love Ford doesn't matter to me who wins 💪💪💪💪

[@jesusjimenez3766]

Best Trucks for a reason

[@goracks69]

Would love to see this test rerun with stage one and 2 boltons as well.

[@michaelhunter5056]

2016 F-150 super crew with 5.0 Love It!!!

[@martyhash6422]

I have a 2013 ford f150 platinum w\ ecoboost twin turbo and I truly love it I never let a chevy or dodge pass me ever.

[@Coupe420]

I have a 2013 5.0. And I agree 100% I don't lose to other trucks!

[@eventhisidistaken]

I suppose when mine gets old, and I care less about keeping it going, I might play these games. But as it is, my stock 3.5 ecoboost is an ecobeast.

[@melaniecotterell8263]

7.6% improvement for EcoBoost and 1.7% for Coyote based on V^2 / t for 1/4 mile runs

[@Shelby-GT350-R]

So one thing to take into consideration and not many people talk about it is the lack of weight needed when trying to tow something. I have a 2015 F150 Platinum Ecoboost. Chose the F150 for the get around gas and the Ecoboost for towing the boat and trailer. Supposed to be the best of both worlds. Well one thing I learned is, the reduction of weight from a smaller engine, aluminum body, shorter bed, REALLY affects hauling a 24ft boat or 29ft trailer. I had to back my trailer down a hill into a spot once and the trailer just dragged me. Low gear, trailer brakes everything working fine, but the weight of the truck wasnt enough to keep the truck from sliding. Ended up pulling the trailer back up, disconnecting and a 2500 put it in place. Boat is a 24ft deep hulled boat, no wind, no brakes, the boat rocks the truck driving a straight line. Next truck will be a F250, but for the 90% driving around town, it will hurt to have an oversized, over powered truck to run to clients... If you just want a truck to race and be fast... stick with the Eco F150... period. But for all around practicality the V8 would be better...

[@thewebsiteisdown7720]

Twin turbo the Coyote. Goodnight everybody.

[@nowifinoobs]

Exactly like this is pointless the ecoboost has turbos its able to make much more power

[@calebblumenstock4091]

5.9Aaron That’s not the point of this video... It’s not, what can you build the truck to be, it’s what can a tune do for a stock truck.

[@whydoihave6neutrals772]

Single digit mileage hello

[@whydoihave6neutrals772]

5.9Aaron it’s not the point just stop arguing. It needs turbos to have less displacement and still have better gas mileage. A 3.5 v8 n/a would make less power and use more gas than a 3.5 eco boost

[@whydoihave6neutrals772]

Camp Matthew yeah do it again I have a fucking v8 you don’t think it pisses me off when people say their 6 cylinder makes more horsepower with a turbo?😂 it’s just called the future buddy!

[@MrAbsentdriver]

Thanks for doing this with the same rear gear. This is what i have been waiting to see

[@user-cl2es9iu1j]

I run a 5.0 in my 2016 reg cab XLT 4X4 and love it. Coyote all the way!

[@joebump7034]

I grew up with my 66 Pontiac LeMans blueprint motor only believed in 8 cylinder after leasing Ford explorer with the EcoBoost for my wife fell in love with the motor ended up in a 2014 F-150 EcoBoost for myself absolutely loved it total workhorse just traded it for 2018 EcoBoost fully loaded I'm in love all I can say

[@ELKOBRA03]

I’m surprised there isn’t a Netflix based of all the KZbin videos they do - great content 👍

[@ssellers5114]

Stay stock, stay happy. Just got a 2019 SuperCrew FX4 with the 3.5L and max trailer tow package. My normal tow is a tritoon along Cherokee Foothills Parkway so not heavy at around 5000lbs but lots of grades and a parachute, usually run around 65mph. Other vehicle I normally tow with is a 90k mile 2005 Hemi Durango with five speed auto. First trip with the F-150 was a dream. Similar fuel mileage on the route but the ten speed and low RPM torque....man, I love it. Uphill runs in fifth and sixth vs second and third. I guess it's cool trying to get a refrigerator to run low 12's but I don't plan on doing anything more than routine maintenance.

[@kevinphillips3965]

I own a 2014 cyotee and love it!

[@kevinheroff7541]

5.0 All-day

[@fredofarrell2455]

Good video, plenty of info but cuts to the chase and keeps it interesting 👍🏻

[@Brutalford]

I love my EcoBoost 350 I put a tuner on it a cold air intake on it I love it it's fast I'm taking it to the track done roll racing with it go racing starting from 40 miles an hour I was running 10 seconds in a quarter mile the truck moves out really well especially when you build up boost before you leave with my tuner I went from 19 lb stock to 29 lb of boost

[@terrygreene3847]

Team Coyote for me !

[@alarks1]

I just love ford trucks my trusty old 02 7.3 still goin strong

[@jerryvess2493]

Same with my old 99 Ford 7.3 it ain't fast but it's dependable and pulls anything that i need it too plus i have the crew cab and a full 8ft bed as for me i love my truck . The new ones are real nice and i think about it every now and again but there is a reason that i have kept my truck for almost 14 yrs. now.

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

I have an eco boost . completely impressed with it . 2012

[@shaunelijah455]

What no one every mentions is that the smaller CID ecoboost has to work much harder to make the same power as the V8 Coyote. Meaning, it will wear out sooner, it cannot possibly last as long. For example, if the coyote lasts 200k miles you might get 150k out of the smaller puny-town eco. Since the 1960's it was wisely stated "There ain't no replacement for displacement" Oh yeaaa

[@kevinthompson8236]

what everyone mentions is that the Coyote has to run at a much higher RPM than the Ecoboost to return anywhere near the same power. So technically, the coyote has to work harder then the EB to do the same job.

[@shaunelijah455]

@@kevinthompson8236 WHO is BSing you son??? Ford ???

[@byronteal531]

I love my Ecoboost plenty of power and torque especially in 4-wheel drive

[@DISOPtv]

What's the long term side effects of turning up the boost? Head studs, heat, etc. These have been out for a while, so that would have been good to point out.

[@deangoeller8440]

I have a 2018 Coyote, 12.5 x 33 offset rims w general grabber tires , true Dual 28" Glasspack mufflers custom welded . Sounds awesome plenty of power and Snort 😉

[@markwolf8804]

Good comparison! But, the sound of that COYOTE is awesome!

[@miriciousvespyre]

For those uneducated, this is the story of a factory turbo’d engine vs NA. In the majority of the situations similar, the turbo engine will always prevail due to the fact of the added complexity of being turbocharged, which those are the money makers on the engine. NA engines only have what the have, tunes aren’t gonna change much without some engine modifications, such as an intake or exhausts, head/cam work, whereas with the turbo engine, the majority of the work is already done factory, as it takes quite a bit of bulletproofing to an engine to sustain the increased torque load and intake pressures brought on by the forced induction of the turbochargers. Simply turn up the juice and PSI, in a manner of speaking. Granted yes, boosting the Coyote would bring far greater yields, that’s not what this video is about. This video is about full factory plus tunes. Hopefully this clears any simple, or close-minded thinking on the subject.

[@Mikej420]

These times seem slow. My 93.tuned 2018 2.7 does the 1/4 mile 14.0's . I've done a few more mods but I'm also 2.5 leveled on 33s

[@Scottrz28]

Love that Ecoboost! What does the Tune do to the gas mileage? about the same or does it drop - thing of it for my daily driver? Also any negative effects on changing tune back and forth to stock? thinking if I know I'm going to tow I'll do the tune them change it back for the daily commute? Thanks great video!

[@RobVarley]

Good video thanks! Why do you always out on Mickey Thompson Baja atz's? I have them on my f150.

[@christopher3067]

Honestly, excellent test love how all the variables are the same. Same company tunes, wheels, trans, rear end and ratio. I'm a Chevy guy, but the cyotoe 5.0 is badass N/A engine!

[@paulskopic5844]

This is truly impressive when one considers that in the early 70's it took a bit of tuning to make a small block Mustang turn these kind of times.

[@lazymarine4890]

Not really.

[@ballurblu3035]

Yes, You're Right, Paul.

[@ferdsan9025]

Same thing they did here, a bit of tuning

[@keaganoellrich7930]

Which grill does the 5.0l have on it? Will that fit on a 2013 supercrew ecoboost?

[@deadpooljohnson117]

I have a 2013 F150 5.0 and I'm trying to decide what supercharger to get. I know that Whipple is really good and other brands like roush and vmp, What would you recommend.

[@1958bytor]

Team Coyote.

[@CabanaD]

Choice for me goes to the naturally aspirated V8.

[@TK-cl1jm]

Enjoy your view of the EcoBoost tailgate...😁

[@paulhouchen9010]

@@shawnwilliams2134 not with a supercharger

[@TK-cl1jm]

@@shawnwilliams2134 Absolutely. Not even close, with a properly tuned direct injection twin turbo.

[@ratbrain7743]

I talked to a few long time Ford mechanics and some young ones too. The salesmen and the younger guys all said get the 3.5L. The veteran Ford mechanics all said to get the 5.0 L They pointed at the turbo and said. "When that goes Big Bux". Got me a 5.0l Lariat 4X4. Badass machine

[@02hreblue30]

pure heresay. no evidence. You 5.0L guys ALL say this with zero to back it up. Coyote is NOT a simple motor, NOT a pushrod, NOT simple

[@victorC308]

its interesting the comparisons, the pros and con of NA vs inhaler

[@Terran994]

So at the end of the day, we get the same result as the last 9 years. Ecoboost V6 beats the V8. End of debate

[@geoffabbott7815]

id still like to see a 5.0L v8 with twin turbos

[@thankyou9085]

The only thing that’s saving the 3.5 is turbos. Ford decided to put a cheap in house cylinder wall coating in the 5.0. That’s why it it’s consuming oil. That is all fords fault so they can push the ecoboost program. Fuck ford for that.

[@02hreblue30]

@@thankyou9085 thanks moron

[@dustinschimkat8645]

Loved me 2016 5.0l Coyote but stepped up to a 6.7 power stroke once you go diesel you don’t go back

[@robz355]

Dustin Schimkat till you break stuff 😬 hahaha there fun but expensive

[@jim5148]

Thanks for the super well done video. Would love to see the same tests done at high altitude, but obviously you're not in Colorado.

[@Wayne1952]

I have had all 3, Ecco,, 2.7,, 5.0 , I love my 5.0, When your 2.7 is running, pop the hood and pull the oil cap off, it sounds like a rod knocking...!!!! Took mine back to the dealer, they said they all sound like that, I told them to keep it and I bought a 5.0.

[@americantrucks]

Direct-injection turbo engines tend to chatter a bit, thats just the nature of the engine. You honestly could've just been hearing that! Thanks for watching. -Zach

[@dano727]

Love the Coyote V8 !!!

[@harrysqueals]

What wheel/tire set up are you guys running I like the stance of the trucks

[@ryenev]

Yes please

[@torque395]

The coyote definitely sounds better, but the ecoboost performs better. Run a heavy trailer behind eaxh truck at the strip and watch the ecoboost smoke the hell out of the coyote. Tgw ecoboost has a power band that comes in quicker and is significantly wider in range, not to mention the higher peak numbers to begin with. Trucks are for towing and hauling, so the ecoboost is the best choice.

[@everydayirace]

Great video, thank you.

[@americantrucks]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@everydayirace]

@@americantrucks I really liked the layout, before and after Dyno and then 1/4 mile passes. Thumbs up.