Tuned F150 5.0L V8 vs Tuned Ecoboost On Drag Strip and Dyno - The Haul

[@bryansmith1237]

Think about this. These are 5000 pound trucks running 14.5's. That was Mustang GT acceleration back in the early 90's. So we basically have stock trucks that with some more tuning could dip in the 13's. We live in good times.

[@inactive67]

There ya go

[@chrispewkreme]

Hell, that’s nearly what my BMW 435i is doing. I sold it and got a 2015 F-150. I don’t think I will own a car again, except for maybe a fun weekend driver.

[@TexasPapa13]

There’s f150s here in Texas running 11s

[@oldmusher]

Think about this: The 800+ horsepower Challenger demon red eye (whatever it is) also weighs 5000 pounds with driver. (6.17 lb/hp) I have a 51 Ford pickup with a 650 hp Windsor that weighs 3000 pounds. (4.6 lb/hp) Don't want to seem overconfident...but...

[@Acaidia]

@@oldmusher Which Windsor and what's done to it? I'm guessing pretty much everything considering its 650hp lol.

[@f-150malico8]

no matter how you feel about the ecoboost you can’t deny it pushes pretty good power for a v6

[@americantrucks]

Crazy what two turbos will do to an engine. 😉 -Zach

[@Bthunder560]

Put the twin turbo on a coyote

[@stout7668]

Well with an actual tuner that works. Exhaust and intake it will run mid 12s Check out 5 star tuning

[@samuelyeet6006]

@@Bthunder560 thats a silly way to look at it 🤷‍♂️ factory vs factory, thats like racing a gas vs a diesel, and saying, well if you put that turbo on the gas it would win.. silly

[@Nismax09]

@@Bthunder560 they'll never do that

[@rivercityracer3683]

TO SAVE YOU SOME TIME! Racing is at 8:00 Stock for stock the ecoboost ran 14.64 @93.77mph. The coyote ran 14.66 @95.61mph. The coyote trapped about 2 mph faster. The ecoboost reached the line first by two one hundredths of a second. The tune somehow made the ecoboost only marginally faster for such a big gain on a dyno chart, trapping about the same as the stock coyote but dropping 3 tenths, which is decent. The coyote went a tenth quicker and trapped slightly slower with a tune....? Not sure what else to say. Go to Lund or AED for a coyote tune.

[@jordanvineyard1903]

Thanks bud

[@MormonMustang_]

Or palm beach dyno

[@arizonacolour8793]

My brotha!!

[@mcbuckets364]

Thank you always someone! 🙏

[@ericfraley]

I was surprised when I saw the time difference with the ecoboost after the tune. I don’t know if they did more runs than that one, but I think something was off or the tune was off. Especially since on the dyno it only gained 30 rwtq. I’ve seen much bigger gains from tunes only on ecoboosts. I can tell you from personal experience that a good tune makes a MUCH bigger difference than what they had. I’ve seen a KZbin video from fast lane trucks that had before/after at a drag strip with tune only and although I don’t remember the 1/4 mile times, the 0-60 times went from 5.9 stock to 4.4 with tune only. 1.5 seconds for 0-60 is going to be a much bigger gain in the 1/4 mile than what these guys had.

[@charleshenson4183]

Moral of the story,do NOT get a crappy bama tune.

[@Murican_Ghost]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Haha

[@johnhenry6848]

Risk losing your factory warranty, if she goes down, all for roughly 3 tenths of a second. Sounds logical. Lol

[@siclt1]

That why you need a mpt 93 PRX tune went 13.3 @ 107 with 33’s on it

[@johnhenry6848]

I just bought a new 3.5 4x4 supercrew. A little disappointed-thought it would atleast feel a little quicker than the older 16’ with its power gain and 10 speed, but mine sure doesnt. Want to wake it up a touch, but just dont want to jeopardize the warranty if that lazy shifting 10 speed does happen to grenade. If its tuned and it does have a problem and needs dealer work, can you flash it back to stock and make it so a tune was undetectable?

[@siclt1]

zukimaniac tune only yes haven’t tried my e30 tune yet. But I love the MPT TUNE really wakes the truck up.

[@rockie307]

For all practical purposes they look equal. The v8 gets better fuel mileage when towing the EcoBoost gets better when empty. I'll take the v8 for less maintenance and upkeep.

[@charliekohn4271]

Real world the EcoBoost and v8 get the same fuel economy unloaded. And once your into the higher speed limits around the country the v8 wins out over the ec-or-boost.

[@randycupp5925]

@@charliekohn4271 The 3.5 gets 3-4 mpg better than the 5.0 and the 2.7 gets roughly 5 mpg better than the 5.0. Go to fuelly.com and view hundreds of real world non biased fuel records... 5 mpg might not sound like much but if you have the 36 gallon tank that is an extra 180 miles on every tank of gas with the 2.7 liter.

[@moose2934]

I drive a LOT and often sit in my vehicle for over 12 hours a day. I am so conflicted as to what size and engine choice in going to purchase - since I want a SuperCrew AND a 6.5” bed with the 2.7. But idk in all honesty, the 3.5 is impressive, but the extra mpg of the 2.7 seems like a more economical decision.

[@charliekohn4271]

@@randycupp5925 I've had real world experience with both 3.5 and 5.0 trucks and the 5.0 has always matched or beat the 3.5 depending on conditions. For example the last 1 way 3 hour 80mph run we made the 5.0 in the group made both directions on far less gas and it had more bikes,gear, and people in it.

[@randycupp5925]

@@charliekohn4271 Awesome! Good to hear that you have real world experience with both. I am not trying to advocate for any particular engine choice. I just think people should research what is best for them before they purchase.

[@jcavalliery]

2.7 all day, and I have a 5.0 mustang. The f150 eco is just like a ninja. I love the V8 sound, but you can't beat the silent killing of the eco...

[@davidlodovico1563]

Owned a 2012 Ecoboost and currently own a 2014 Coyote. At 67k miles the Ecoboost went into limp home mode. Condensation from the inter cooler got into the cylinders. The Coyote is still running strong at 107k miles. I’ll stick with the Coyote, thank you very much! Plus it sounds great with the Flowmaster Super 44!

[@chrismoore7775]

V8 old school. Less to go wrong.

[@JayRSwan]

@@chrismoore7775 the Coyote is far from the old school. The push-rod LS engines are old school.

[@aryanrahim1255]

Had the same problem. The eco boost just don’t last.

[@JayRSwan]

@@aryanrahim1255 there first gens don't. 2018+ they made a lot of changes to fix their previous Eco boost shortcomings. Strictly speaking The 3.5 as no changes have been made to the 2.7

[@KellenStunts]

You’re supposed to drain the inter coolers and add an oil catch. That alone goes a long way.

[@boyertb]

The moral of the story is to boost that Yote.

[@Rockhouse491]

That's what I'm saying

[@blown5.062]

Right on, cant go wrong with a blown5.0 !!

[@JD-rq7il]

@@blown5.062 It really depends on the money you want to invest! Personally, I can't justify the cost of adding the blower, but with my Eco, I just snuck into the 11's with a tune, panel filter, and removed resonator! Obviously if you want to get serious, the 5.0 is the way to go!

[@GhostlyGhille]

@Waylon Miller true but I work at a ford dealer I had a customer come here with corsa and Mbrp exhaust he sounded like a baby diesel.

[@dylanmiller8661]

7k later lol

[@UntitledSpaghetti2]

5 Star Tuning has the 5L over 400hp/400tq at the wheels on 93 octane

[@Tb0n3]

Less than the stock tune on the 3.5 on regular. Pathetic.

[@davidbarbee1276]

@@Tb0n3 The Stock Tuned 3.5 was 321 HP and 370 Torque at the tires.... Even tuned the 3.5 ecoboost give 373 hp So getting over 400hp at the tires is way more than an ecoboost 3.5. But if you want to compare apples to apples, we can boost the 5.0 coyote, Roushe sells the supercharged coyote thru the Ford dealerships and it even comes with a 100 000 mile warranty and makes over 650 hp and the crew cab does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds

[@zayedalsuwaidi7697]

@@davidbarbee1276 Pretty dope

[@scarletgonzales840]

@@davidbarbee1276 The Raptor eco boost 450 hp ,that engine is also put into some limited editions.

[@a232701]

If it's that close I'm going for sound! 5.0 all day

[@justintexas5306]

Depends on driver. I run. A 5.4 to 5.6 1/8 mile in my 2.7L v6 EcoBoost f150

[@TurboNFRStwoK]

Depends on how much towing you do. If you don’t tow much then absolutely go 5.0. I own a 2015 3.5eb and I love the massive towing torque. Actually I love everything about it... except for the sound... I HATE the way it sounds but I tow all the time so its Something I have to deal with. But If both those truck were strapped with max weight 12k lbs trailers I can guarantee the EB would gap the coyote bad.

[@devinespinoza5529]

If its a 2018 and up Ecoboost then there is no chance for the 5.0

[@Setavaa7]

Justin Gibson No way you run those numbers in the 1/8 unless it’s a built drag truck and i still doubt it

[@thisistheslam]

But are you drag racing your truck? If so, why did you buy a truck?

[@specforged5651]

All you did was prove “BAMA tune”....whoever the hell they are....don’t know what the hell they are doing.

[@BreckoniousMaximus]

Preach on brother!

[@jamesmiller7911]

Exactly. That EcoBoost tune wasn't right.

[@jackflash6377]

Too many others getting 400 plus out of the Eco.

[@corynickoleff767]

Yeah, 5-Star all the way

[@corynickoleff767]

@@jackflash6377 Even the 5.0 tune was trash

[@thollingsworth4910]

I just picked up a regular cab 4x4, 5.0 and I absolutely love it.

[@RamblinAround]

Definitely would go with a Coyote, it just sounds so much better. Plus, you can throw a Whipple on it and then you really have something.

[@svtvenom3264]

Yes only cost 1/3 of the truck to throw the whipple on their

[@masoninman2702]

My dad’s got the 2016 with the coyote. Have to say, it’s my favorite vehicle i’ve ever driven. It’s such a fun truck to drive

[@tinoarreguin8850]

What's a Whipple? I'm looking for a F150 with the Coyote.

[@gabrielgarza3079]

@@tinoarreguin8850 it's a brand of supercharger. I just got a Coyote, and it's awesome. Love it!

[@RoadGrime12]

Tino Arreguin whipple supercharger

[@danielfish101]

I'd still go for the v8, way more potential and reliability

[@Treyk901]

Danosaur a 3.5 Ecoboost tuned properly will put down 533 tq and 469 hp at the wheels. This bama tune in this video is an absolute joke.

[@Happyoldfashionfamily]

Same here. Love to see a long term side by side full output load pull. This test really doesn't prove anything for longevity.

[@davidmichaelseven]

No

[@polywoggins]

Uhhhh...NA vs FI...lol...you are new to this huh?

[@tywilliamson2472]

If its built after 2018, ive got to disagree. They removed the cylinder liners in the aluminum block and replaced it with some slick spray. Works about as well as you expect, look up some videos of the sound and the scarring

[@outdoorlife5396]

Moral of the story, the 5.0 has a good base to start with. Charger, turbos your wants and pocket book be your guide

[@paulhunter9613]

Too bad you have to tune it to get any power out of it

[@finleyslawncare]

Love my 5.0. Music to my ears!!!

[@aaronryherd6607]

Hell yah. Love mine!

[@IneptSoldier]

5.0 ... I love the sound of my 5.0

[@chazkrueger2911]

same. I added a cold air intake to my 2016. idle is quieter but once you punch the gas, it growls like crazy. love it

[@thesavior2398]

i also believe the ecoboost is a bunch of lies... eco boost has been known to get worse fuel eco while towing... my 5.0 got 24mpg going 75mph it was also 4wd

[@IneptSoldier]

I have the borla attak on mine with a cold air filter and it sounds amazing

[@samduran5180]

I love the shit out of my 16' 5.0 f150 but damn she burns oil, anyone else have this problem?

[@niftycritter1870]

5.0 is nice for ladies. Men drive Hemis 😎

[@ross7684]

This was info I've been interested in learning about since I got my first F150 back in 2015. From my perspective after watching the video, you really don't get much gain with either for the money of the tune. I tow so will stay with my stock 2019 3.5 Eco.

[@donsvideos1985]

I'm running a 2011 F150 Ecoboosted 2wd W/ Magnaflow catback, AFE stage 2 CAI and 5star tune on the SCT tuner. Bought the truck new and still love it!

[@BrandenLopez]

I love my ecoboost, but man does the coyote sound good!

[@Brandon_Nelson92]

Agreed. The 3.5 ecoboost was an easy choice for me when I bought my 2019 f150. I used to have a 2011 mustang with the 5.0 coyote. I miss the sound, but only until that low-end torque kicks in.

[@mclroy]

Love my 2015 wco too. But next one will be a coyote.

[@TroubleHasFun]

Agree!! I had the 5.0 with a 40 series dumped but now I have the ecoboost. Lol you just cant beat the power and the towing of the EB. Just do the VTE mod it makes up for the sound

[@_E_B_]

@@Brandon_Nelson92 I test drove a 2019 f150 with the 3.5L and 3.55 gears. Was not as impressed as the hype I heard before I drove it. From 0-40 it felt lazy. I didnt feel this "mountain" of low end torque people keep talking about lol. Had alot of turbo lag. At about 50-60 mph it felt a little more peppy. But that 10 speed sure wasn't as quick shifting as Ford advertised them to be. Not trying to knock your truck. Just didnt have the experience everyone else said they have when they drive it. And I was coming from a 2015 quad cab 4x4 ram with the hemi and 8spd. The 2019 f150 did not feel any quicker. Also test drove a 2019 Silverado 4 door 10 speed with the 6.2L. Again...not impressed. I really think the tuning software in the new 10 speed for ford and chevy is what holds both trucks back. Anywho. Not knocking on you or your truck.

[@joshuarounds7180]

Evan Bozajian when the transmission is in normal mode the truck is a little lazy but when in sport mode it takes off like a rocket! I have a ‘17 3.5 ecoboost screw 4x4 with the 3.55 gears btw. I think there is a lot of torque management going on to keep from damaging the drivetrain and to help with fuel economy as well.

[@SIAS92]

I’m team can’t afford it 🙃

[@izakalquist5831]

Seth Squires same bro

[@heckingoodboy634]

No shit man, it took me like 10 years before i could buy a new truck, you'll get there! Just save, and get good credit 0% makes a HUUUUGE difference!

[@megastarsport]

I want a supercharged 5.0 so bad

[@bretfeeney1072]

why not a 5.0l with small turbo? just an option.

[@hankclingingsmith8707]

Get a pastime gig and save. Stop watching t v

[@megastarsport]

@@hankclingingsmith8707 I work full time and I'm about to be a full time student. I don't even have time to watch TV

[@drw1926]

Yes please.

[@FtmfwId]

I love my F150. Its an absolute riot on E85. The Whipple supplies enough air to rev it out too, i redline at 7200. With headers it sounds amazing

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

The 5.0 held its own pretty damn well. I just don’t trust smaller engines with turbos as much as an N/A v8 when it comes to actual reliability. And you can’t argue with the sound of a v8. Heck, sound is half of it. If they could just make the eco boost actually sound good, they would sell way more.

[@clyde_kentucky6744]

They literally sell more ecoboost f150’s then 5.0 🥱 sorry

[@AzzKicker-bz1cb]

@Tony The Truck Guy I’m with you on the no trust in twisting the nuts on a squirrel to make a 6 run like an 8 cylinder, regardless of the platform(car vs. truck)!!! As far as whether the Eco-flop sells more than the 5.0 Coyote, that has more to do with those near tree huggers and idiots who think they are getting better performance initially than the truth over time!!! When I was growing up(back when it was Mustangs making these kind of numbers and trucks couldn’t touch low 16’s) if you were going to add a turbo or a supercharger to and engine, the very FIRST thing you did was to overbuild the bottom end of the motor(forged crank, forged pistons, splayed four bolt main bearings,stronger piston rings), then you upgraded the heads with studs for fastening hardware, roller rocker arms, better lifters and improved push rods, then you added the turbo or supercharger!!! I can guarantee that none of that has been done for these mass produced, short life, exploder motors!!! The fact that there aren’t massive complaints about major engine failures with these eco-bitch motors is simply because Ford manufacturing has got to be suppressing the information!!! For all the reasons I just pointed out, those eco-bombs are just that, bombs waiting to explode!!! Yes, every engine is capable of a catastrophic failure regardless of it’s make up! But when the engine is built small to begin with, then you add a device that increases internal pressures exponentially, without building the failure points stronger to prevent failures, FAILURE is the best you can expect!!!

[@edicius9411]

ecoboost motor is better

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

@@edicius9411 Well I would call it an engine to start. But based on what evidence?

[@yeanah2571]

I mean, sound or not, the 3.5 Ecoboost is the same motor that won Lemans. I love coyotes, but that racing pedigree means I refuse to make fun of Ecoboosts

[@copykonsmusic1065]

I have the V8 5.0 and it's a BEAST just as stock

[@americantrucks]

Its definitely hard to beat an N/A V8! -Zach

[@forresthodge1024]

Eh, it's similar to how the old 302 windsor was in the F-150's. It was okay, but it didn't have great low end grunt so you had to be willing to get on the gas in order to get the thing moving at a decent clip. The Coyote is a high strung engine, it makes most of it's power at higher RPMs. Fine for a Mustang, but not ideal for a truck. The 10 speed really helps the Coyote more than it does the EB. With the older six speed trucks, the EB had a decisive advantage, it's got gobs of low and mid-range torque (which is what you want in a truck), so it moved the truck around with less effort. The ten speed brings the coyote up to near parity in terms of outright performance as it keeps the coyote on boil when you're on a full-throttle run. The EB doesn't benefit as much from the ten speed as it has a wider powerband.

[@davidbleichroth8860]

Gonna agree Stock to stock when I throw the 5.0 into sport mode I end up taking the e boosts by a length or 2 I don’t get it. I get Ford wants the E boost to be the future but...

[@02hreblue30]

@@forresthodge1024 well said. The Eco just does it so easily. On the highway the Eco just has gobs of passing power

[@02hreblue30]

@@davidbleichroth8860 uhhhhh. Eco has performance mode which makes it faster too. Stupid 5.0 comment as usual with zero evidence

[@1958bytor]

Team Coyote.

[@terrygreene3847]

Team Coyote for me !

[@egghead992]

5.0 for the long haul. Redo this test after 100,000 miles I’d say 5.0 all day.

[@johnsommer7815]

110,230 miles on my 2014 5.0. Still runs like a champ

[@ProjectFairmont]

Why? The 3.5 has a more direct valve actuation; direct acting lobe over bucket vs. followers for the Coyote. Also the 3.5 revs 1000 rpm less at WOT shift. More cylinders does not simply mean more durable...duh.

[@egghead992]

S Schroeder I respect your choice, I chose the 8 over the 6 for long haul towing I believe the 5.0 will out haul and get there first over the 6.

[@johnsommer7815]

Why? Because living in Alaska is fucking tough. Which means tough on whatever equipment you're running. Hands down, I'd choose the 5.0 over any of ford's dumbass gas motors. Saying that, over half of the people who thought/bought the POS ecoboost, broke down and couldn't hang. As far as longetivity. Like I said, fuck that ecoboost

[@ProjectFairmont]

john sommer BS, save your self riotous bias.

[@ajaxmaintenance5104]

I’ve owned both Ecoboost and 5.0 litre F-150’s, and the 5.0 was my favourite. Not as much bottom end torque but it sounded way cooler.

[@02hreblue30]

which means zero for performance

[@JackofTrades21]

@@02hreblue30 sounds cooler = I’m a retard everybody

[@CasanovaFluff]

At least the guy at the red light who you’ll never meet will say “hey that sounds like all the other trucks on the road.” Anybody who cares about performance will go with the ecoboost. But nice sound bro. Lol

[@dirtbeard108]

@@CasanovaFluff anyone that cares about performance will do more than a simple tune. Throw a GT intake on the 5.0 and watch the EB cry.

[@mxr248]

@@dirtbeard108 ya but he’s talking about stock!!! The fact ford eco boost kills all other v8 manufacturers!

[@anthonywood4894]

Honestly I’m ecstatic over the factory power of my 2022 F150 5.0. That thing is a beast on sports mode and sounds so much better than the eco boost when you push that V8. It feels more like a sports car than a truck a lot of times.

[@bigtimechief]

I switched my 22 over to sport for the first time the other day and I was surprised. Big jump from normal

[@JayRSwan]

I picked up a powerboost the other day. I will never sound like a v8, but that 430hp and 570ft-lb is no joke. Now that it is tuned, I added 100hp and 90ft-lb more! Leaving the exhaust stock as the V6 sounds gross, but it's nice I can plug the camper into the back and run it off the hybrid battery. The air conditioner and all!

[@paulhunter9613]

@@JayRSwan the only one hearing your exhaust is the fiveoh owner as you are pulling away..😳😝

[@davidmedich8907]

That's what I'm saying. Coyote is a Racing engine.

[@patmason7276]

Had two other ecoboost now have a hybrid 430hp and 570 lb ft of torque. Love the 5.0 but ecoboost is a torque monster!!!

[@nightowl3582]

That V8 growl is hard to give up, man.

[@americantrucks]

There's nothing wrong with a good old fashion V8, that's for sure! -Zach

[@02hreblue30]

love my quiet Eco. I have a Voodoo, had a 5.0, and now on second Eco. Love quiet power and the towing is amazing. Passing power incredible

[@r6master69]

Do what I did then. 5.0 cat ecoboost truck. My ecoboost truck is so nice to drive me car gets neglected lol

[@paulhunter9613]

@nightowl The growl you here is because it’s low on oil,, again

[@Brian_195]

Love the performance and sound of my 2019 Roush Coyote, especially with the Roush exhaust. But, definite props to the EcoBoost, too. But, a Bama tune is not where it’s at. I went with the Oz Omega X tune and I couldn’t be any happier with the performance and outright power from Oz.

[@daydaysilver]

I went with MBRP exhaust the AFE 11 airflow kit and my coyote on 33" 305's dominates pretty well everything up to 220. First 4 gears is ridiculous than 5 and 6th is just limitless

[@02hreblue30]

Roush is good but VASTLY overpriced and on trade you will never realize the money. Never

[@Brian_195]

@@02hreblue30 If you pay the full asking price, which I didn’t pay anything close to. I couldn’t have modded a regular Lariat with everything I have on my Roush Lariat for less than I paid for my Roush. I paid $60K for my Roush brand new, that came with a Fox 2.0 leveling suspension, a Roush cat-back exhaust, 33” all-terrain tires, a console safe, fender flares and more. So, getting $20K off the tag was not a bad deal for my Roush, brand new, at all.

[@brady_bigbear]

Would be awesome to get a bolt on/tune comparison of the two to show if additional mods outside of a tune make a difference.

[@jerrypolete5258]

It’s amazing how well the ecoboost keeps up with the 5.0 coyote being that the ecoboost is a 6 cylinder. I would lean towards the ecoboost since you’re getting about the same performance but less money out of pocket. I’m glad Ford came out with the ecoboost, it’s a ecobeast!

[@jerettbell4147]

the 2.7 ecoboost is no cost base engine, the 5.0 adds a few thousand to the price, and the 3.5 liter adds an additional few grand, just bought a new 5.0!

[@acdii]

@@jerettbell4147 Actually, if you buy it for towing, the 5.0 will cost more by the time you add the missing options that Max Tow adds, and still not have the full capacity.

[@jcallen21]

If you plan on keeping the truck past warranty. You're better off with the 5.0 .

[@kylezarnowski8285]

@@acdii if ur buying a gas engine half to pickup for for towing ur prolly not gonna be in good shape anyway...obviously it depends on the weight ur towing but lets say ur towing 7500 pounds or more on the regular the engine wont hold up anyway. That goes for any gas engine in any manufacturers platform.

[@Bigfish1day]

Jerry Polete Talk to me about ecoboost after 150K miles, will be broken if it lasts

[@gbaileyo7]

I've had both and I love both!

[@martyhash6422]

I have a 2013 ford f150 platinum w\ ecoboost twin turbo and I truly love it I never let a chevy or dodge pass me ever.

[@Coupe420]

I have a 2013 5.0. And I agree 100% I don't lose to other trucks!

[@bennyjames5090]

I love Ford doesn't matter to me who wins 💪💪💪💪

[@jesusjimenez3766]

Best Trucks for a reason

[@OliG2]

Since the 2.7 EB if the F150s most popular engine overall (and what I own as well) I'd love to see a 2.7 EB tested under the same conditions (same lift/wheels/tires, same tuner, same dyno, same track, similar weather) and then compare to the 3.5 EB and the 5.0 !

[@02hreblue30]

yes, Graphite block pushes more boost. Like a diesel block. 2.7 rocks

[@dudestuff1557]

So would you guys get the 2.7 or coyote?

[@rozlegion9187]

@@dudestuff1557 I personally have a 2.7 and love her but I would love to have a coyote

[@Soupcan35]

@@rozlegion9187 Same!

[@screaminc10holder50]

Tossing a 3.5 Gen2 Raptor motor into my 65 Falcon Wagon... Motor has 924 miles on it... Gonna be a fun ride.

[@user-cl2es9iu1j]

I run a 5.0 in my 2016 reg cab XLT 4X4 and love it. Coyote all the way!

[@adamrice1805]

Great equal comparison. I would like to see what both trucks do with a 5 star tune. Their website says 110 HP and 130 FT Lbs gained with just a tune on the ecoboost.

[@morganmcquiggan9497]

If you just take a look at these priceless beautiful trucks. The 3.5 and 5.0 both presenting unbelievable power and specs. What a great performance package. Amazing machines.... “We’re going to take these do keys to the track”

[@dano727]

Love the Coyote V8 !!!

[@MASFATNINJA]

Just got my 150 Lariat sport 3.5 and I can tell you it blows the doors off of my former Ram Rebel 3.6 and as much as I loved my Rebel the Lariat Sport is much nicer but the Sport was 73k new and the Rebel was 45k new. Happy with the upgrade. I also am not one for loud noises so the more quiet Eco is fine with me vs the louder v8

[@skipmartin3469]

In November of 2017 I went to the Ford Truck dealer, and told them I want a truck with electric windows and mirrors. I drove away with a 3.5 EB with more power than any car I ever owned before. Score. I think I own one of the few 2WD, standard cab, long bed F150 in my area. Lovin' it to this day.

[@SeventyEightCivic]

The times were so close who cares. The coyote sounds better and will win the war when the eco boost is broken in the driveway.

[@eddiesmith7070]

Own a 2019 3.5 and I love it. Runs very well.

[@americantrucks]

Those 3.5's are hard to beat! Absolutely a great engine choice. -Zach

[@brendanwoods7399]

Great choice if you stay on top of the maintenance and attend to signals promptly. I would sell it though when the warranty expires.

[@thebluntandonly]

I have the the Blue Jeans Metallic FX4 2015 and it is by far my favorite vehicle I have ever owned. I got the sports package but it only gets like 13.9mpg. I definitely drive it carefully in the rain when turning but when its dry it is a great lil speedy truck and the space for the supercrew is superb. A very fine truck.

[@thebluntandonly]

meant to add the 3.5 eco :) very nice motor

[@John-sc4sn]

Eco-boost FX 2 4 inch exhaust, blow off valve, K&N intake and Diablo sport tuner, 220,000 miles on it and still kicking A$$

[@Tat2Power]

John 2 ever have an issue with duel in the oil?

[@John-sc4sn]

Jeffrey Sikora Yes I have if I try to daily it on a hot tune I will get fuel in the oil I keep it stock most of the time only turn it up on special occasions

[@questionblechoices]

I have a 2013. With all most the same but with 5 star tune. Yes, just like most boosted motors you will get blow by to the crank. Just change the oil like you would on an old car 3 to 5k miles, depending what your doing with it. Also, get a good catch can.

[@Tat2Power]

Thanxx guys. Can I ask a stupid question? If you pull in and check the oil right away. Is the dipstick covered about all the way up? I get crazy high oil levels and if I do. later the level goes back down towards the normal zone. I was told by the dealer that when you drive oil comes up the down tube for the dipstick. And if you had the dipstick out oil would spray all over. I’ve never seen this on older vehicles. Any opinion?

[@nickcortese990]

Why would you even buy a truck if it wasn't a 4wd?

[@dewrus2153]

So, to recap what we learned today, Ford just needs to make a 5.0EB. By my calculations, that would make about 535hp and 576tq at the wheels on this truck. That was easy...now Ford...get to it!

[@edwinyoung2719]

Craig Williams your missing his point the same would happen with the 5.0 as with the v6 it would give better power and fuel mileage . Though quite honestly I’ve never seen an eco boost out fuel mileage a 5.0

[@dewrus2153]

@@craigwill4324 - Of course I know this...I was kinda making a joke. Sorry it was not obvious enough for you. A 5.0 EB would be awesome but Ford will never do it. Could you imagine if they did, though?

[@Treyk901]

A properly tuned 3.5 Ecoboost on E50 puts down 553 hp and 617 tq at the wheels...

[@maximeemond2009]

@@Treyk901 yeah ok everybody runs e50 in their daily's... smh

[@Treyk901]

Maxime Emond actually lots of people do... and there are good tunes for the 5.0 using E85 making nice power. Since you know, the 5.0 is a flex fuel daily driver vehicle after all...

[@RafaelMartinez-ju3tn]

I have an ecoboost and love it but I have always been a V8 fan in heart and I’m impressed of the similarities in both of them after the upgrade

[@LarkDawg97]

I just love ford trucks my trusty old 02 7.3 still goin strong

[@jerryvess2493]

Same with my old 99 Ford 7.3 it ain't fast but it's dependable and pulls anything that i need it too plus i have the crew cab and a full 8ft bed as for me i love my truck . The new ones are real nice and i think about it every now and again but there is a reason that i have kept my truck for almost 14 yrs. now.

[@mrutan6055]

I buy used and chose the V8 because it's not turbocharged and will probably last longer

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Mark Rutan me too, and it will be cheaper to maintain and repair.

[@jmc6000]

So I guess all Diesel engines dont last long because by your logic they have TURBOS?

[@jeffreygoss8109]

I think he was saying the turbos are expensive. Turbos live in the worst of areas, high heat and spinning millions of miles an hour make them very failure prone, especially new turbos. As for the 3.5 eco boost I am not aware of “ motor failures” making them less reliable than the coyote, but time will answer that.

[@clutchcananderson9157]

A guy I go to church with bought 3 trucks for his company, 2 eco's and 1 v8. He loved the eco' at first then 2 years in nothing but problems out of the eco's. All 3 had about 100,000 on them. The v8 was the only one that had never been in the shop. The eco's had been multiple times.

[@unlisted9494]

The coyote isn't the ls engine. The ecoboost will probably outlive the coyote if you maintain the truck well

[@fishinman539]

Just bought a 2017 3.5 ecoboost love it!

[@thewebsiteisdown7720]

Twin turbo the Coyote. Goodnight everybody.

[@nowifinoobs]

Exactly like this is pointless the ecoboost has turbos its able to make much more power

[@calebblumenstock4091]

5.9Aaron That’s not the point of this video... It’s not, what can you build the truck to be, it’s what can a tune do for a stock truck.

[@whydoihave6neutrals772]

Single digit mileage hello

[@whydoihave6neutrals772]

5.9Aaron it’s not the point just stop arguing. It needs turbos to have less displacement and still have better gas mileage. A 3.5 v8 n/a would make less power and use more gas than a 3.5 eco boost

[@whydoihave6neutrals772]

Camp Matthew yeah do it again I have a fucking v8 you don’t think it pisses me off when people say their 6 cylinder makes more horsepower with a turbo?😂 it’s just called the future buddy!

[@billybeemus3929]

The real story here is that in stock form, either truck turns a mid-14 second quarter mile. Sick muscle cars from the late 60s ran those kinds of numbers on factory tires.

[@jesseontiveros9074]

I used to be a Chevy guy for many years, but after buying a Ford 2019 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost 6 cylinder and now I'm a Ford Guy. Ford has more space in the cabin and improved on the engine. I just purchased an F-150 2021 Coyote 4x4 and I see the difference. I just purchased a cold air intake to get more HP and a little more fuel economy. Currently I get about 19mpg on highway and 16mpg city. I'll post the new numbers after I get that cold air intake installed.

[@NoViews1975]

Stay stock, stay happy. Just got a 2019 SuperCrew FX4 with the 3.5L and max trailer tow package. My normal tow is a tritoon along Cherokee Foothills Parkway so not heavy at around 5000lbs but lots of grades and a parachute, usually run around 65mph. Other vehicle I normally tow with is a 90k mile 2005 Hemi Durango with five speed auto. First trip with the F-150 was a dream. Similar fuel mileage on the route but the ten speed and low RPM torque....man, I love it. Uphill runs in fifth and sixth vs second and third. I guess it's cool trying to get a refrigerator to run low 12's but I don't plan on doing anything more than routine maintenance.

[@Terran994]

So at the end of the day, we get the same result as the last 9 years. Ecoboost V6 beats the V8. End of debate

[@geoffabbott7815]

id still like to see a 5.0L v8 with twin turbos

[@thankyou9085]

The only thing that’s saving the 3.5 is turbos. Ford decided to put a cheap in house cylinder wall coating in the 5.0. That’s why it it’s consuming oil. That is all fords fault so they can push the ecoboost program. Fuck ford for that.

[@02hreblue30]

@@thankyou9085 thanks moron

[@MrTRAVELER96]

After watching this video I bought a 2023 5.0 F150. They don't seem to be having all the problems that the 3.5 Ecoboost are having with lubrication and cam phasers.

[@YtRando69]

Just oil consumption and cam phaser issues (5.slo)

[@CabanaD]

Choice for me goes to the naturally aspirated V8.

[@TK-cl1jm]

Enjoy your view of the EcoBoost tailgate...😁

[@paulhouchen9010]

@@shawnwilliams2134 not with a supercharger

[@TK-cl1jm]

@@shawnwilliams2134 Absolutely. Not even close, with a properly tuned direct injection twin turbo.

[@stevelutzke9600]

5.0 is my preference. I admit the Eco is quick and has a good power curve. I just believe the 5.0 is so much less complicated and cheaper to maintain in the long run. I find it interesting that people I talk to with the Eco will brag about their fuel mileage and then after they get rid of them and get a 5.0 they say it’s not that much different. These are the 2015 to 2017 trucks, don’t know if newer ones are different. I’ve watched more than one comparison where they interview mechanics at a Ford dealership and all but a few will say they prefer the 5.0. That being said to each your own. It depends on what you do with your truck and what is important to you.

[@paulhunter9613]

The mechanics love the v8, they have house and boat payments that depend on that engine

[@eventhisidistaken]

I suppose when mine gets old, and I care less about keeping it going, I might play these games. But as it is, my stock 3.5 ecoboost is an ecobeast.

[@harrysqueals]

What wheel/tire set up are you guys running I like the stance of the trucks

[@ryenev]

Yes please

[@christopher3067]

Honestly, excellent test love how all the variables are the same. Same company tunes, wheels, trans, rear end and ratio. I'm a Chevy guy, but the cyotoe 5.0 is badass N/A engine!

[@byronteal531]

I love my Ecoboost plenty of power and torque especially in 4-wheel drive

[@kevinphillips3965]

I own a 2014 cyotee and love it!

[@kevinheroff7541]

5.0 All-day

[@MrMickey2000]

I'd take the The 5.0 and add either a turbo charger to it or a super charger.

[@smotpoker15]

If we're living in dreamland , and not 15k plus of modifications, I'd just throw 2 ecoboost motors in the bed and be done with you

[@MrMickey2000]

@@smotpoker15 What a dumb ass comment!

[@matthewthehuman1744]

I am pretty surprised by these results, but I guess the bottom line is, that coyote still has room to grow, aka it too can be boosted.

[@paulskopic5844]

This is truly impressive when one considers that in the early 70's it took a bit of tuning to make a small block Mustang turn these kind of times.

[@lazymarine4890]

Not really.

[@ballurblu3035]

Yes, You're Right, Paul.

[@ferdsan9025]

Same thing they did here, a bit of tuning

[@melaniecotterell8263]

7.6% improvement for EcoBoost and 1.7% for Coyote based on V^2 / t for 1/4 mile runs

[@markwolf8804]

Good comparison! But, the sound of that COYOTE is awesome!

[@NissanTy]

I was into this video then you said Bama performance then I cringed

[@TheLawlessGang]

wat i said lol

[@1188clean]

why? whats wrong with them

[@NissanTy]

@@1188clean ask any mustang owner about Bama lol

[@colinrogers5419]

Just say no to bama

[@paulm7753]

Those were low numbers for a tuned EB, 5 Star numbers are a lot higher. look at what TFL got with their test

[@robc2199]

Team Coyote all the way, but that Ecobeast is pretty awesome 👍

[@americantrucks]

I know some people loath the exhaust note, but you can't deny that the 3.5L hauls! Thanks for watching, Rob! -Zach

[@sergeysmelnik]

I love both. Currently I own a 3.5 and when I bought it I expected it to sound bad. However that is not the case. The trick is to leave the exhaust stock and as quiet as possible. The engine and turbo are actually descently loud and when that turbo spools it sounds awesome. Ive listened to all the aftermarket exhausts for the ecoboost and I agree they all sound absolutely horrendous. They try to force a deep tone out of it and it just ends up droning. If I was forced to do an exhaust I would do take offs from something like a 370z or one of the new inline 6 bmws.

[@cmkm54]

@@sergeysmelnik Bmw guy here, I made this mistake NEVER get rid of the resonators will drone awful. Borla sounds good with my 3.0 i6 nice and throaty. Dont know how that would translate to a v6.

[@Hal9k42]

Turbo 6 can sound pretty awesome when done right. I would take a truck that sounds like this video at the 20 second mark all day long. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3Wqd6aiaLqhn5o

[@Dirtyharry70585]

@@americantrucks how about a gasser 7.3 with turbos...:)

[@bryanstrader1740]

They're both great, you can't go wrong eitherway.

[@americantrucks]

Great point! When there are choices though, you'll always find people picking sides. 😁 Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@paulhunter9613]

@@americantrucks picking sides? More like butthurt v8 owners hating the power of TT🤯

[@dustinschimkat8645]

Loved me 2016 5.0l Coyote but stepped up to a 6.7 power stroke once you go diesel you don’t go back

[@robz355]

Dustin Schimkat till you break stuff 😬 hahaha there fun but expensive

[@scottcampbell5478]

Driven both, and nothing puts you in the seat like the 3.5, I'll take the daily mileage and speed, and it't fine towing a trailer.

[@jaysay7333]

if you want a race car get a race car, the turbos will go out on that 3.5 eventually then u just have a regular V6 in a fat heavy body. have fun with that.

[@adamm1284]

They are great if you tow your trailer a few times a year. I've had to replace a few dozen warped exhaust manifolds. Turbos get over worked and replaced. Only reason to get a EcoBoost is the sweet sound of the turbos

[@donaldadcock148]

I have the coyote with a roush supercharger....good enough for me and 13mpg in sport mode passing the assholes up that are in my way as much as possible

[@jaysay7333]

@@donaldadcock148 v8s are more reliable anyway, even if ur boost goes out, u still have a fricken v8! not to mention the gas mileage between the 3.5 and 5.0 are so slim it doesnt matter. OH MY GOSH THE 3.5 10 SPEED TRANSITIONS SO SMOOTHLY. eh get outta here, my coyote is gunna still be running strong in 20 years, ur gunna have 4 new trucks by then ey? Amiright?

[@mordeth1964]

Could they have been quicker launching in 2wd against the talk converter? Being an Aussie I don't know much about these awesome machines, so just wondering..

[@lucasblanchard47]

I’d love a new 5.0L F150!

[@jeffcoats7982]

It totally depends on what you are doing with it in my opinion. I love my EB and I also love the Coyote, but the towing with the EB is great, and it isn't working so hard. I love hearing the Coyote screaming, but not all the time, which is what you will deal with if towing in the mountains. EB for me.

[@02hreblue30]

bingo. nice comparison from someone who has both like me

[@willhurlock776]

how good does the eco tow up a mountain? will engine and trans get too hot?

[@paulhunter9613]

@@willhurlock776 eco will out tow the 5.0 easily up the mountain

[@joebump7034]

I grew up with my 66 Pontiac LeMans blueprint motor only believed in 8 cylinder after leasing Ford explorer with the EcoBoost for my wife fell in love with the motor ended up in a 2014 F-150 EcoBoost for myself absolutely loved it total workhorse just traded it for 2018 EcoBoost fully loaded I'm in love all I can say

[@infantryman4lyfe]

I’ll stick with the more reliable engine. Let’s put a TT on the 5oh and see who’s faster!

[@kimberlysimmons5802]

Let's put 10 grand into the 5.0.....shut up

[@toddpollock228]

Let's make the ecoboost a 5.0 and see what happens. LOL

[@SkyFoxMarine]

@@infantryman4lyfe telling a woman she's on her period everytime she says something you don't like...that'll show her 🤦‍♂️

[@prex345]

I learned that a tune for the cost doesn't look worth it. Factor the cost of the tune itself and the add cost of 93. I'll pass on that.

[@justinbailey8021]

He is just doing the canned tune that comes with the programmer. If he would do e50 tunes on both of them with high boost tune on the ecoboost, then u will see that a tuner is well worth the money

[@Pilot545]

Like Justin said, these are canned tunes. An E50 tune on the 3.5L ecoboost will SPANK the coyote. Dollar for dollar...the ecoboost can't be beat for getting massive gains. I'm running a 5 star E50 tune on my 2018 and it puts out over 500 hp and 620 lb-ft to the wheels (dyno proven). I regularly surprise camaro ss, corvettes, and mustang GTs (I don't BEAT them but they don't beat me, either).

[@Pilot545]

And, btw, my tune cost a grand total of $500. You will need to spend several THOUSAND on a NA Coyote to get similar gains.

[@ericshaw6278]

Michael Godsey what tuner are you using

[@justinbailey8021]

@@Pilot545 that's impressive! I knew that 560 torque was almost the ceiling about a year ago.

[@bullproductionfilms8744]

Ecoboom all the way!!! new heads new turbos and a couple internal changes and you got yourself a badass truck

[@polywoggins]

Those gains on the EB seem really low compared to other tunes.

[@isthatahemi1979]

Tune only my 2.7 ran mid 12’s - supercab 4wd on OEM 20’s

[@Treyk901]

Yeah this tune is terrible. My tow tune is quicker than this.

[@justin9318]

I thought about the 5.0 but noticed they were having reliability problems with burning oil, making strange sounds, and they went with the new plasma spray-in cylinder liner tech which apparently has been causing issues as well. The Eco boost for the 2.7 after 2018 and 3.5 after 2017 seem much more reliable as they are on their second versions and you get the better gas mileage as well.

[@shaunelijah455]

WHO is BSing you son, FORD??? Why not get off your couch and go talk to REAL mechanics, (licensed for MORE than 10 years) at ANY Ford dealership

[@hrbacon]

More torque for pulling, better power band, why would anyone want the 5.0? If you want more displacement, go get a Hemi or an LS. The only people who care what it sounds like are the ones behind me.

[@lonewolftech]

The ecoboosts have been failing for years with far none problems than the 5.0.

[@paulhunter9613]

@@lonewolftech and you prove that opinions are just that, opinions can be wrong.

[@paulhunter9613]

@@shaunelijah455 why not get out of your recliner and find out that Justin knows what he is talking about. The problems he listed are known facts… well to most truck guys anyway. And enjoy the early death of the five oh with cylinder deactivation now as well 😝

[@OldPongGeezer]

Nice video! Lost me a bit with the dyno test data, but I got the idea. Best part of this video for me was seeing how big a difference wheels and tires make to get that beastie look - when you rolled those two back onto the dyno machine back at the shop. Also, "Donkeys" and "Pigs"...LOL.

[@miriciousvespyre]

For those uneducated, this is the story of a factory turbo’d engine vs NA. In the majority of the situations similar, the turbo engine will always prevail due to the fact of the added complexity of being turbocharged, which those are the money makers on the engine. NA engines only have what the have, tunes aren’t gonna change much without some engine modifications, such as an intake or exhausts, head/cam work, whereas with the turbo engine, the majority of the work is already done factory, as it takes quite a bit of bulletproofing to an engine to sustain the increased torque load and intake pressures brought on by the forced induction of the turbochargers. Simply turn up the juice and PSI, in a manner of speaking. Granted yes, boosting the Coyote would bring far greater yields, that’s not what this video is about. This video is about full factory plus tunes. Hopefully this clears any simple, or close-minded thinking on the subject.

[@dannyjr7997]

Would like to see both with intake and exhaust plus tune.

[@thisistheslam]

Got my 16 F-150 2.7L EB and it's got plenty of get-up for me to enjoy and plenty of torque for the kind of towing I do if I need it. Everyday driving is what matters to me and while I LOVE the sound of that throaty V8 I can't help but lean toward practicality. I don't need to pay 15%+ more for fuel just to get the good sound. Ford is doing it right with the EB engines and these 2nd gen EBs in the 2015-2019 F150s are much more reliable than the 1st gen and since I don't drag race a TRUCK I'm not worries about the 1/4 mile time, although it's no surprise that the 3.5 EB wins out when you consider the power/weight ratio and the advantage that turbos offer to a naturally-aspirated V8 which doesn't get that same *cheat code* benefit that turbos offer. But to each their own - get a truck that you like and if you got money to blow, get the V8.

[@02hreblue30]

bingo

[@anthonylefebvre4374]

I have 2018 coyote work truck and loving it power and sound and I did try the EcoBoost its a beast to but v8 been around for ages....

[@corklj14]

It has not been around for ages. The coyote 5.0 came out the same year as the 3.5 eco, 2011.

[@FlyingSparks12336]

LOGAN CORK I believe he’s referring to the v8 itself as in an 8 cylinder in a truck

[@jrsoct24]

In that case the first trucks used inline 4 engines...

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Jason Smith I wish they made a straight 6 again. Every straight 6 I’ve had has been torquey and reliable

[@soylentgreen7074]

I like the coyote. Not far off but not stressed with all the add ons. Will run forever.

[@02hreblue30]

based on what evidence. Its not an old pushrod, its very complex in itself

[@soylentgreen7074]

@@02hreblue30 na vs turbo charged. Forced induction wears stuff out faster.

[@02hreblue30]

@@soylentgreen7074 please provide facts. Forced induction trucks go a million miles. I own several stock and aftermarket forced induction vehicles and its simply not true. Its how you take care of it. Coyote motors are very complex themselves

[@soylentgreen7074]

@@02hreblue30 forced induction motors that are not diesel wear out faster. It’s just common knowledge.

[@DadsDomain]

I would have to think that the 5.0 would have less issues over stock with that tune and the ecoboost would potentially has more issues with that much more power.....I could be wrong

[@Mikej420]

These times seem slow. My 93.tuned 2018 2.7 does the 1/4 mile 14.0's . I've done a few more mods but I'm also 2.5 leveled on 33s

[@chaunster]

Take them up to 7,000ft elevation and try again. Boost would win imo.

[@joshb6101]

Yeah cause everyone goes racing at 7000ft imo

[@chaunster]

@@joshb6101 no, some of us just live at these altitudes and have to deal with the power loss of less air.

[@NotYourAverageFishKeeper]

I was just in New Mexico at over 7,000 ft in elevation and experienced no power loss going up mountains in eco mode.

[@oldschooldude8370]

Map sensors help greatly with elevation.

[@nicholasgrover2993]

Put turbo on 5.0 and omg got a 5.0 eco hhahaha

[@Shelby-GT350-R]

So one thing to take into consideration and not many people talk about it is the lack of weight needed when trying to tow something. I have a 2015 F150 Platinum Ecoboost. Chose the F150 for the get around gas and the Ecoboost for towing the boat and trailer. Supposed to be the best of both worlds. Well one thing I learned is, the reduction of weight from a smaller engine, aluminum body, shorter bed, REALLY affects hauling a 24ft boat or 29ft trailer. I had to back my trailer down a hill into a spot once and the trailer just dragged me. Low gear, trailer brakes everything working fine, but the weight of the truck wasnt enough to keep the truck from sliding. Ended up pulling the trailer back up, disconnecting and a 2500 put it in place. Boat is a 24ft deep hulled boat, no wind, no brakes, the boat rocks the truck driving a straight line. Next truck will be a F250, but for the 90% driving around town, it will hurt to have an oversized, over powered truck to run to clients... If you just want a truck to race and be fast... stick with the Eco F150... period. But for all around practicality the V8 would be better...

[@philipdonato4664]

Would give up the tenths ALL DAY for the 200-300K mile reliability of the Coyote... ALL DAY. Plus exhaust note... Not even a question. Great comparison!!

[@02hreblue30]

like you will keep it that long. BS

[@philipdonato4664]

@@02hreblue30 at least I have the option with a Coyote. Little turbo motors are trash. If I want more power there is a hundred superchargers I can choose from. I might keep this one and hand it down to my kids in a couple of years if I get tired of it. Who are you anyway, you don't know me

[@02hreblue30]

@@philipdonato4664 Pure BS. No basis in fact at all. Enjoy your slower truck

[@philipdonato4664]

@@02hreblue30 fact is, a coyote with any kind of power adder will eat those little garbage motors for lunch and out live them. There's a reason 9 out of 10 Ford techs would choose the 5oh. But I guess you know more then them. 😂

[@02hreblue30]

@@philipdonato4664 LOL. Everyone on the internet claims to be a Ford Tech with world class knowledge and wants a 5.0. Only you 5.0 boys say that and very few of you ever realize long mileage on any of these cars ever. Pure lies

[@sponomarev83]

They are pretty close, especially if you consider a V8 being naturally aspirated. Based on personal research of ecoboost engines, they have some issues from the factory. I personally think that if you stick with a V8, you'll get better reliability/longevity and performance in the long term.

[@bugs825]

eh, that's on the owner. My 3.5 has 217,000 and has been race tuned from MPT since 125,000. Couldn't ask for much more and it puts down much more power than these can tunes.

[@ncd7184]

@@bugs825 what year ecoboost?

[@bugs825]

@@ncd7184 2013

[@Powerstroke98]

The Ecoboost if driven conservatively, can give you amazing fuel mileage. Unsure of how well the 5.0 would do, but nonetheless, both are great options for these trucks, as is the 2.7 eb.

[@adrian54115]

What did he mean 4h then switch to 2wd after 60ft?? Like turning the button after the 60ft?

[@02hreblue30]

zero reason to do it. Never proved 2wd was insufficient, especially with those big tires and lift killing performance. Nowhere near stock.

[@CajunEscapades]

I have, and love, the 2.7 eb

[@NoOne-wv6zc]

I have a 2018 2.7 4x4. It doesn't need no stinkin tune, just 93 octane and sport mode,nuff said.

[@peruser155]

@@NoOne-wv6zc I would agree with this. Having had everything from 5.3/6.0 GM to 70's Trans Ams to almost all of Ford's pickup motors (the Tritons were crap weren't they?) over the last 40 years I can honestly say this is the quickest pickup I've ever owned. Not just on paper but seat of pants. To think it wipes most "muscle cars"of my era off the map in stock form is just astonishing. Plus tows a 10,000 pound boat and your entire family and camping gear. What else do you need? It is a rocketship pickup for sure.

[@peruser155]

I have a '19 2.7 and with high octane and sport mode it chirps the tires on shifts and is impossible to not spin the LS rear (both tires) on takeoff. This is a stock 2 and half ton 4x4 crew. I just hope Ford doesnt decide it's too much for the average grocery getter and detunes them in the future!