TURBO BRZ! First Drive and DYNO POWER

[@mightycarmods]

All new CHOPPED LANYARDS! Get yours now mightycarmods.com/collections/accessories/products/chopped-lanyard

[@saucylemon7756]

Might have to cop one of these for the foz

[@rogerpha1398]

Where's Tuning Fork?

[@SmokingMan26]

Shocked there is no "Page Up" stickers

[@acacium]

How to stop the seat belt beep. Works in my Subaru. Try it in yours. Turn the vehicle to the on position by either turning the key to the on (without starting it) or hitting the push to start button twice without touching the brake pedal. Buckle and unbuckle the seatbelt twenty (20) times in thirty (30) seconds. The seat belt chime is now disabled.

[@ClutchKickJunkies]

when you boys gonna work on some real cars :P

[@eric_wtm2494]

Moog: bring your best two door blue car Marty: brings 2sexy

[@harryhobson1599]

Was just about to say that 🤣

[@JDR1971]

I was thinking the blue turd(RIP). LOL.

[@Hugobros3]

i miss 2wisted ngl

[@MadmanJnr]

I forget. Is it still running? Or is it the vehicle getting the Kswap?

[@r5obiwan]

@@MadmanJnr 4g69 is still going i think

[@AutomotiveAnatomy]

MCM: Perfect time in Australia to upload Rest of the world: 2am, time to watch MCM....

[@brwnsgr3245]

Its 4pm here in the states, Oklahoma to be exact

[@regabernathy6039]

Out here on the west coast of North America, they uploaded at 2:30 in the afternoon.

[@MyrKnof]

@@coletrickIe CET CREW CHIMING IN

[@gezak4778]

It's 1 am bruh

[@Bulldog23636]

Oh boy 3 am!

[@nojus650]

School tommorow, but my teacher knows you guys so ill let him know why I'm a bit snoozy haha.

[@tinytinytimyall]

I love reading this when it’s 4pm in my time zone

[@russianmusicgroup]

@@tinytinytimyall just about midnight where I'm from but I respect the hussle of op

[@ludwig7626]

@@tinytinytimyall its 12 am in my time zone😂

[@ailestriker9888]

@@ludwig7626 Same. Its 11:30 in England

[@thediyandpianoguy8665]

I wish your teacher would speak to my boss.

[@InfernoPhilM]

“7 appendages...” “8” “What?” “Don’t worry about it.” 😏

[@markm0000]

Brown chicken brown cow

[@AxxLAfriku]

My haters throw rocks at me and it hurts. I hope they don't throw The Rock at me because I like him as an actor. GAGAGAGAGA!!! I am funny!!! For more amazing jokes you have to visit my YT site, dear phil

[@thefunkosaurus]

Only 5 inches, but smells like a foot.

[@markm0000]

John Peterie Pounds like a jackhammer. Lifts like a backhoe.

[@ericwinterspruce0110]

"Bring your best 2-door blue car." I think we all know where this is headed.

[@seanhuang4728]

Blue turd

[@TheVeyron623]

@ 2SEXY is a 2-door mate

[@musewolfman]

Blue Turd mkII

[@JamieRogers95]

@@TheVeyron623 I think me means the evo 10 from that weird dream Marty had a while back

[@TheVeyron623]

@@JamieRogers95 Yeah, but that also isn't a real Evo, like 2SEXY is. XD

[@aguyonmatchcom]

Moog: “being your best two door blue car” Marty: *welds the Evo’s rear doors shut*

[@KillJD]

Being your best is always good....

[@trantas4]

I'm a Subaru guy and i didn't like the BRZ because of how different it is from the rest of the pack. After all those episodes though i changed my mind. This thing is brilliant and made with a purpose. Well done Subie!

[@justinmurray2515]

Still hoping you call it the "Blu-baru" battle.

[@Mitsuman77]

You need to make a “page up!” shirt

[@eTiMaGo]

I could have sworn Haltech had one, but I don't see it on their online store :(

[@5punkybob]

So long as it has the extra feet helping press page up

[@jsleeio]

would buy

[@nauthizzz]

@@eTiMaGo They don't have a shirt, they have these. www.haltech.com/product/ht-309023-haltech-page-up-for-power/

[@eTiMaGo]

@@nauthizzz beautiful, thanks!

[@JamieRogers95]

I dont care how long its been, I'm still expecting them to say "sponsored by just car insurance" at the end of every intro

[@extraziadeh]

Haha same

[@BenMessenger]

Who said advertising doesn't work

[@Zonda1996]

When the memory of the ad outlasts the business itself

[@deanoscott]

Yup, agreed haha

[@s70driver2005]

Lol right!

[@oldmanhare]

Poor Marty. He is smiling on the outside and crying on the inside 😢

[@mbsnyderc]

He still has all wheel drive Moog will have to keep the BRZ from drifting.

[@jaydunbar7538]

Crying? If he gets beat its a reason to upgrade his car, and he helped his friend improve his car.

[@davidnguyen9409]

@@mbsnyderc you're underestimating just how well the 86/BRZ handles. A stock 86/BRZ goes around Winton as quick as a stock WRX STI despite having significantly less power. Marty has no chance.

[@trevorkupetz2138]

15:58

[@wisico640]

as cool as this BRZ is, the STI is still something :o

[@rian2977]

Moog trying to hide how damn excited he is!

[@allowe5236]

Ive been wanting to turbo my twin for a while now. but being logical and not wanting to blow it up is stopping me from doing so. this video has made it alot harder to resist the temptation. that blow off sound is sooo good

[@robridez5874]

"fastest two door blue car" too sexy is out to smash these Subi's

[@Neishy4AGTE]

More like its front tyres.

[@ZAMMY7]

Who else opens youtube and has this gut feeling that theres an mcm upload :)

[@markm0000]

Evrytiem

[@BenIntentional]

It's like spider sense!

[@jamesmcivor340]

@@BenIntentional always trust the spidey senses

[@laststand104]

Probably saw a goat earlier today

[@D4VE26]

Who doesnt have bell notification on just for MCM!?!?!? 🤔

[@johnnyturbo8460]

You know it's a good day when even your tuner is surprised! Looking forward to seeing the road race... and uh ummm drag race!

[@CrusinVK]

Next episode:. Marty's STi gets 4-6 psi of boost put into it :)

[@markm0000]

Wwwwwututututu * pop *

[@chris_b44]

Next, next episode, Marty’s STi gets a new set of rods and a short block

[@apocalypse487]

For a total of 300psi

[@5punkybob]

This reminds me of the first time I had my 92 manual soarer tuned. Drove in with 186kw at wheels.. drove out with 244 and all they did was boost and fuel on the stock twin turbos.

[@CriticoolHit]

I am really enjoying this series. The bit-by-bit upgrade and testing is very cool and how it should always be done. You're learning and going to learn so much more.

[@itsfqndave]

Moog: mY tUrBo sOuNds HecTicKkkkKk Me, on lockdown at home: shaking my sprite bottle and opening the lid slowly to try and mimick turbo sounds 😞

[@amoniousbt1110]

Why are you under lockdown for?

[@neovenom9833]

@@amoniousbt1110 hm, I think his name dropped a massive hint. 😏

[@Kaye23X4]

What type of monster shakes perfectly good sprite.....

[@YouthCarpers]

Go build a bus stop

[@drakedbz]

@@amoniousbt1110 You been living under a rock this year?

[@ILOVEDASTIG]

Perfect amount of power for street driving. Finally the car drives like it should have from the factory

[@damyanovasen]

No, ItS mAdE tO bE pUrE

[@Chair991]

Would've been quite a bit more expensive had it been like this from factory though.

[@sebbo9696]

200hp is PLENTY for street driving amd learning track driving

[@Jaredscott89]

@CoconutCrab Not a WRX engine at all. Hence having to cap torque down low so it doesn't blow up. And yes it would have been way more expensive, OEM's have different warranty requirements and durability standards. A factory turbocharged BRZ/86 would have been a completely different price-point.

[@cmphoto_]

彡uKU彡 I got bored with 250 or whatever my LZ ST had, but it wouldn’t have handled at well as an 86/BRZ tho.

[@Miles7955]

4:25 "I only want 180kw" Yaris Hilton's mighty chant of "Page Up, Page Up, Page Up" is softly heard in the background from everyone in the comments :P

[@411nightnheaven]

Cmon guys its 00:26 I need to sleep 😴 still gonna watch it mcm > life

[@frasermate4729]

Next episode: how to install a head gasket

[@4BillC]

That's all I want... 300 hp to the wheels! I'd be a happy camper!

[@negativeindustrial]

Bill Carini That’s where my MR2T is and it’s perfect IMO. I could easily get more out of it but I just don’t feel the need to. First time this has happened for me.

[@4BillC]

@@negativeindustrial I have an 01 Audi A4 that's probably around 230ish and a 2014 that is still stock for the moment. But considering when I got the 01 about 6 months ago it was destined for the junk yard I can't complain. It barely looks like the same car. It'll hit 300 once I put a bigger turbo on it... Wonder how long the engine will hold... Lol

[@4BillC]

@Pete Mason at the moment its only front wheel drive but I have everything thing I need to make it AWD. It's definitely an on going project.

[@joshriles84]

My s3 is 310awhp and it's perfect.. but i want more lol

[@mechntechbeau]

I have a 2003 audi tt Quattro with a ATP big turbo kit and she's living quite happily at 400awhp

[@_SKDK_]

So glad you guys are working with more iconic cars. I always enjoy seeing a quality channel working with popular cars like rx7s, rx8s, skylines, supras, Silvias, STIs, EVOs etc.

[@iainbagnall4825]

"I'm not telling you anything till you get your belt on" TOP CHAP.

[@Oblithian]

0:00 + boost = 15:19 MCM has proven that boost is the key to happiness.

[@bradlong7651]

Awesome, Marty is going to have to really make the most out of that 4 wheel drive to stay ahead. Its going to be an exciting race 🤘🏻

[@pingchen5291]

He’s not going to have a chance unless he can induce/ control some oversteer. The BRZ already had the better lap times... now it should gain some time on the straights and out of corners.

[@Defury8285]

@@pingchen5291 Marty either seems like not as good of a driver as Moog or doesn't know how to track drive Subaru AWD. It seems like he's plowing into corners when he shouldn't be with the suspension/alignments

[@pingchen5291]

CoconutCrab you might be right, but Marty doesn’t seem a very aggressive driver, so I don’t think he is going keep it redlined and working the drift / grip limits. OR the opposite approach of super clinical, but in their performance range I think they will need to push. It will be fun to see, but I think there is every chance Moog cuts a couple of seconds off his previous times. (I think he pushes a little harder) .The newer technology, and now better than equal power, will be too much for the classic STi. If Moog doesn’t spin it out!

[@pingchen5291]

Brennan Clouatre my brother had a ‘97 STI type R coupe, and I know they are fast up to 180kph, even stock... Just so lightweight, compared to cars now. The door panels are thin with nothing to them, compared to the six inch thick, molded, insulated doors that cars have now. I think Marty does best in the straight line drags, but Moog is better with cornering. And since he’s already equalled/bettered the STi’s time, he should only get quicker... even using the new power sparringly. Looking forward to it- it might inspire Marty to do some significant work on the STi ;)

[@mattg768]

Why do people keep moaning about the upload time? I'm in the UK and I start work at 5 am every morning, I still watch if there's an upload usually straight away. I don't care if I'm tired at work, cars are one of the best parts of my life.

[@monolith2001]

Before this series: I can't stand the BRZ/FRS As of this video: Searching for cheap ones and how to build one like Moog's.

[@bobjoatmon1993]

I bought one new in 2016 with the plan to put the Edelbrock Eforce supercharger in and it made the car PERFECT, like the factory should have done it. It's another option few think of, lot less problems in installation and tune.

[@johnmoore9588]

Still hasn’t got 8 cylinders tho

[@bobjoatmon1993]

@@johnmoore9588 sorry, totally disagree with the philosophy that it's only good if it's an 8 cylinder. Yes, before fuel injection and computerized management cubic inches counted but technology has advanced and made the 8 cylinder obsolete. How do I know, how many are still made, it's a dying niche and less and less are manufactured as smaller, lighter and more fuel efficient engines now put out the same HP. Hey, some people still ride horses but their not mainstream... And soon the V8 will be like the horse and buggy, not seen on the roads much.

[@johnmoore9588]

@CreamnCoffee2 I'm Australian actually, V8s are what Aussie car culture was founded on. And it was a joke, not a dick, no need to take it so hard

[@Jaredscott89]

@@bobjoatmon1993 That has literally nothing to do with the engines and everything to do with cost and emissions compliance. An LS in this thing would be a massive improvement regardless of how much boost you throw at it.

[@whos-your-mate]

The anxious excitement of driving away from the tuner's. Magic 👍

[@ethanstuart8173]

Been watching since drive way days🤪

[@RadekPogoda]

My first was the re-bodied Legacy. Welcome to the club!

[@rietoh]

0:02 everyone needs a friend that looks at you the way marty looks at moog

[@joshriles84]

Lol wow

[@DiscoFang]

14:57, 15:17, 15:29, 15:36 Awwwww bless.

[@GOLOC98]

Idgaf what comment this is, I’m just happy I got something to watch when I’m suppose to get up to work in 5hrs hahaha

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

Same

[@nojus650]

I feel u lol I got school too haha

[@Adjustlfy]

Same😂😂

[@matthewd1907]

Im happy. Just knocked off nightshift to have this waiting at home

[@cathat9622]

I have 4 hours of maths tommorow, its 1am

[@mattrenegar476]

God i love this show. Thank you MCM

[@edwardmolloy7548]

Martin turns up to the track with a blue two door R34 GTR🙃

[@iambiggus]

Just wanted to say that I appreciate you guys uploading in so many different formats. I'm on a tiny island with crap net, and the high def struggle is real. Having an option other than either 360p or 2160kHD!!! is again, very much appreciated.

[@stringz6554]

Just like that I’m gonna be late for work. Thanks MCM

[@cruznforabruzn7592]

Moog is trying to hold back a genuine smile at the end!! Nice work!!

[@davideriksson8805]

Moog: "Uhm is anyone interested just to see how far it goes even though we will bring it back, is anyone interested to see that?" Me: "Page up, page up!"

[@philbenedetti456]

martys smile at 14:45 is how we all feel when we first feel the boost and hear the bov/dose so good!!!

[@jeffr5053]

@2:15 you started getting sun glare on the driver's side so I held my hand up over my phone as shade. It clearly didn't help🤔

[@KarazhanIsCake]

Lmao

[@pingchen5291]

Nice one, Jeff!

[@misjudged21]

Marty's smile when he heard the blow off after the tune says it all.

[@char1337]

Cheers boys, perfect timing, just got my first beer of the day after deleting that annoying iscv off my ae86.

[@acamora]

i have an 85 mr2, i assume the iacv works the same for both, how did you delete yours?

[@D13-r9w]

ripping into them early there dude ;)

[@char1337]

@acamora not sure if its the same (I’d have to check) I just got a block off plate and removed all the vacuum lines for power steering and looped the water lines back into the block.

[@alxuria]

@@D13-r9w morning bevvies

[@upnorthviking823]

Whats the point of deleting it??it just makes very annoying cold start like a 1960 v8 lolll...if you dont tune it the stock ecu is looking for the signal...

[@boggeshzahim3713]

I like the dude tuning the car, very cool knowledgeable guy

[@Lucas-ee2ud]

If i didn't support my family's needs. I already have a car. But i can't do anything. I need to support my mom and my brother. I'm a fan from the Philippines🇵🇭❤

[@Aaron-ot1xs]

The induction sound is incredible.

[@mjwhitmore89]

You can have the manufacturer turn the warning off too Moog! I work at a Toyota dealer in Perth and we do it all the time ✌️

[@mitsuman007]

Carista app with a BT OBD adapter works as well.

[@Frost640]

I literally did this for a Lexus customer on Friday, its a quick toggle in Techstream :)

[@mjwhitmore89]

@@Frost640 I do it to all my drive cars 😂

[@procrastinator1842]

As if you would ever take your car to a Toyota dealership.

[@mjwhitmore89]

@@procrastinator1842 I'm sorry they hurt hurt you?

[@NafaratMiyaMiya]

That Lancer at the end after the on ramp got the evil side eye from Moog hahahaha

[@IhsanMujdeci]

Marty is a good mate, he just like seeing high KW numbers in any car.

[@finnice]

Digging the older Moog music 👌🏻

[@paintballoser]

Do you know the name of the track that starts playing at 5:30? Any help with the identification is appreciated!

[@finnice]

J C sounds like the beginning of Horizons (ft.Erin Renee) on a loop or at least been played around a bit 👍🏼

[@finnice]

J C oh no actually just listened to the song it’s different I’m not sure what song it is

[@SnA88]

if anything, it makes me want to drive BRZ! congratulations and happy birthday moog! I bet this is one of the best birthday gift for yourself!

[@jacknorthover2805]

Still rocking the fake dump valve/turbo noise too?? 😂Or am I imagining it 😜 great vid!

[@maxpower700]

Nahman, thats the fake one for sure 😂

[@guillaumeloriault4074]

Thought the same. Their grin was too obvious and the thing lasted way too long.

[@5punkybob]

I though it sounded a little "electronic" ;-)

[@562Baudelio]

I love mighty car mods so freaking much 😭

[@robbe2142]

Love your video's, watching you guy since the trd lazer 😁big fan, would love to meet you guys in Real life some Day, Greatings from Belgium

[@MrsGreycious]

The face he made when rounding the first corner and accelerating on test drive....priceless!

[@thisismossop]

I cracked open Cheryl's box today, cheers. 🤙

[@infinite_dynamics]

If theres one thing I've learned from mighty car mods, it's that one must never forget the importance of the primary appendage

[@End3r_Wiggin]

That's a solid 400hp at the crank for us yanks.

[@badnewskelli]

I thought 220kw is more like 300whp (idk if you'd loose all 100hp to the drivetrain)

[@Zesserie]

yeah, 304PS on the wheels is pretty much where id like it to be for a car like this. much more is not really worth imo. If your not throwing heaps of money on it and chasing numbers. but for an allround trackable car? for sure!

[@MartijnPeek]

secretcitizen 100hp loss is a bit too much, according to the interwebs the drivetrain loss on a BRZ is like 20% so it would be in the region of 375 crank I guess

[@End3r_Wiggin]

@@badnewskelli It is 300whp, but that's on a load bearing hub dyno. Those read lower than what an inertial type, such as Dynojet, run. So while you'd adjust about 15-17% loss for a Dynojet, you're looking closer to 25% loss from crank to wheel on the hub dyno. So, 300whp divided by (.75) you get 400hp dead even.

[@End3r_Wiggin]

@L W 15% loss would be accurate for an inertial dyno, but on the load-bearing type dyno here, it'd be closer to 25% loss. Which would agree with the original, stock 130whp compared to 200hp at the crank.

[@NicsCarChannel]

Turbo is just what it needs from the factory!

[@shockwave5574]

I love watching this because I own a BRZ but mines supercharged

[@alvinbernardo7770]

Ok why isn’t anyone talking about how Moog didn’t want that EVO to pass him so he flexed and unleashed the power of that Snail? 🥵 15:08

[@MafiaboysWorld]

I know I'm not the only one missing Tuning Fork tuning an MCM car. 🤷

[@wurlyone4685]

Tuning Fork is a legend of course, but PVS done a fantastic job here and is clearly a really great guy too. Great to see another local business involved and getting exposure, imo 👍

[@MafiaboysWorld]

@@wurlyone4685 Yeah, no hate for PVS at all, they did well. I'm just being nostalgic. 😎👍

[@promethbastard]

@@MafiaboysWorld Admit it, you just want to watch Scotty try and fit into the BRZ and smash his head in the process.

[@MafiaboysWorld]

@@promethbastard That's an exercise in human origami for anyone that's more than 6ft tall. 😂👍

[@promethbastard]

@@MafiaboysWorld Indeed, I lost count of how many times I've whacked my head on things. My head hurts thinking about it..

[@stevey306]

I retract my former comment about sound almost at end of episode sounds proper now. Nice dump noise and fast acceleration after 4500 revs... NICE ONE FELLAZ...

[@krispykruzer]

Been seeing some old MCM, and I miss old moogs. Too serious now

[@jdmfreak22]

Go watch the latest disrepected nose. Too serious??? Say whaaa

[@MadamBATTL3CAT]

that franticly quick end to the video killed me

[@Be4tJumper]

"one of the easiest cars to work on" Did you see the bumper?

[@STREETCARCULTURE]

Turning into a sweet little street beast.

[@Itsmellsfishy]

‘Might be the fastest 2 door car we have?’ 240Z says nah.

[@davidw381979]

He said blue 2 door..

[@Itsmellsfishy]

@@davidw381979 My sincere apologies...

[@ZUKME]

Can't wait to add power to my BRZ!!! Love this show!!!

[@pau7478]

I haven't seen the episode but when this hits the track, it will be 2+ seconds faster than the STI.

[@markcozzie]

That won't ever happen,the STI will be alot faster. It's a nice simple and easy conversion, it's now got the turbo it should've allways had..👍

[@pau7478]

@@markcozzie interesting you think a family sedan will be faster than a rwd sportscar built from the ground up now with more power than the STI.

[@markcozzie]

@@pau7478 You could possibly be right,i honestly fought the sti had Alot more bhp that it has,now I've just watched the dyno off the brz turbo it mite just win... Only time will tell,but it will be very close 👍

[@markcozzie]

@Brett Collins Read my above comment 👍

[@pau7478]

@@markcozzie it's two seconds faster as predicted

[@nismojdm5950]

Can we take the time to acknowledge the quality of the shop/Tuner and the tech screen is so much better than lets say.... dynojet or those mustang dynos.

[@billnalder1017]

I think Marty should have had a seat belt on too- just sayin'~

[@TheMikejarman]

Excellent results for The Bruizer! 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@rossdixon5050]

prediction: a wild rodney has appeared.

[@Che1seabluesdrogba11]

Japanese chopped t-shirt and MCM poster should get here in another week 🙌🙌

[@haydenrasband1601]

"we've basically doubled the horsepower" Me watching thinking in horsepower: 👁👄👁

[@capnskiddies]

Well doubling the Kw is the same as doubling the hp.

[@jrmyadventr]

Awesome, really can't wait to see the next race with the new tune

[@Bimmer624]

Send me the car afterwards I’d love to own it 🥺😭

[@only4hw]

She sounds so good, well done fellas

[@berserkfuryyy6798]

The video drops 4 mins ago. Video is long. 1 dislike...... really bro?

[@nai9435]

hey guys following this build, as someone who had a 2013 86 turbo e85 for 40k miles. the amount of guys that had stock\IAG\any other built blocks still let go on them is SCARY. I would recommend building a FA20 only if it isn't your daily and have $4k set aside for a shortblock if you do your own labor.

[@saccusgalifinaccus3184]

Thats what you get when you do the right mods

[@jayruka2508]

I was really hoping for PAGE UP.. and I wasn't disappointed.. even got Marty doing a PAGE UP mime!

[@bvward]

Blair is the Wendy Carlos of BRZ turbo tuning!

[@slightlyinsaneraf]

Will never forget the feeling of boosting my car and driving it for first time! Such a great feeling!

[@Striderdat]

same here, that first drive with my boosted BRZ! its unforgettable that feeling

[@slightlyinsaneraf]

@@Striderdat especially when I didn't really driven a big turbo can before with big lag haha Tuner sat on passenger side, telling me to send it, so I did and it was literally like a space shit 😂 Love it! Shame that now I just want more BOOST 😆

[@MadmanJnr]

I like the honesty. We could put the belts behind our backs... But I didn't think that far ahead 😄

[@joemuxlow6803]

Moog: Bring your best 2 door blue car Marty: Starts welding the rear doors of his evo 9

[@Saadi_Lyfe]

14:43 That smile on marty's face reminds me of myself watching turbo cars pass by as a kid...

[@sato730x]

The car sounds really good and pulls well, good job on this build

[@madfrosty5228]

That’s like 300 hp on the crank , niiiiiiice 👍🏻

[@theunboxingsheep9965]

No better way to start a day of school with some MCM

[@MrThewetsheep]

everytime you all boost a car im amazed at how good they sound

[@manuelmaldonado1644]

The BRZ sounds so good.

[@longdomedia]

Martys upping the boost 100% haha

[@NoWr2Run]

HOLY CROW, that is unreal, damn near doubled the HORSEPOWER, KRAZY. I need MO MONEY.

[@frankenstein_colt_98]

Page up!

[@StrangelyIronic]

HP is mainly a fancy number to brag about, Torque is what really gets you moving and up to speed. The 1GR's I've been building for my cars have heaps of torque but it's usually the transmission that goes first before the engine in my builds. My RWD converted ST204 Celica is currently running around 360-380rwhp and ~400lbft of torque comfortably and after the wider tires/wide body was added on it can effectively deliver that power to the ground without too much wheel spin (still a super light chassis+light engine with that much power it's past the point where it's practical for a street car where I don't wanna tear into the chassis stripping/destroying the interior).