Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 (2022 - GA402) - Comprehensive RAM Upgrade Guide w/Benchmarks

[@TekyTimbo]

Self-disclosure: there are 6 dislikes on this video as of Aug '24. ======================================== Affiliate Links to RAM modules tested ======================================== If you'd like to help support my channel so I can produce more content like this, please kindly consider using my Amazon Affiliate links for the products discussed / used in this vid (I may earn a small commission but it does not affect the price you pay): Crucial RAM 16GB DDR5 4800MT/s - amzn.to/3SxmI47 Crucial RAM 32GB DDR5 4800MT/s - amzn.to/4bbuI1Y Crucial RAM 16GB DDR5 5600MT/s - amzn.to/4889q2J

[@josuelimouzaine7960]

i love when a stranger on the internet answers your very specific question with a highly detailed answer ahahha great video man

[@kkbrendenpeery1687]

This video answered all my question that I had about the ram configuration on this laptop, thank you!

[@peregrinus]

Exactly the video I was looking for. Thanks for pointing out that onboard RAM determines speed and latency. Went for 4800 instead of 5600 as planned prior to watching this. Great video. Thank you!

[@kirillskripnikov6784]

Dude, thank you for the detailed explanation without bla-bla-bla.

[@randellapolonio1792]

wow, you just did the best review for this memory upgrade confusion. I have the 16gb variety (8OB+8OEM) with less than 10% improvement doesn't seem practical for an upgrade. Cheers mate, well done here..

[@Joshr13047]

this is such a comprehensive and well put together video. I did not understand any of this on the reddit thread but now I completely get it. Wow your findings are interesting asf, i was going to go with the 32gb stick but I thought it was really interesting how its more likely to use dual channel so it would technically be faster to have less ram and higher likelyhood of quad. really great video im dumb and i understand this now thank you

[@haroonhanif1325]

on your recommendation, i have upgraded with 8 +16 . Good performance. thanks for this detail video. GBU

[@kopilkaiser8991]

This walkthrough was indeed very helpful. Thank you making such a great video and taking the efforts in demonstrating all the procedure.

[@TMM6900]

Answered all the possible questions and future questions in one video

[@chuguavuitinhchannel9073]

Very informative! Ive been looking for a test on asymmetric settings for a while. Keep going bro!

[@marslogos]

Love this!! been looking for it everywhere, and now finally!! I can be happy with my decision to stick with 24gb...

[@Gamalenon]

Great explanation! I didnt know a lot of things with these onboard DDR5 memory

[@shuflie]

I've got the 6800HS+6800S with 32GB from factory, just downloaded Passmark to see how I compare but only have the trial version. If you're interested the ID of my test is 1833820. Not the fastest G14 2022 but not a bad result. For reference I ran it with the GPU in ultimate and a manual power profile maxed out with the fans at max above 80C for GPU and CPU.

[@micb1232]

I have the schematic for gen 1, trying to get the schematic for the 2022 board, since its out of warranty anyway I was debating to try and replace the soldered ram myself. Will hold off until I can find the schematics anyway and calculate the right numbers.

[@The_synthpop_lover]

Thank you for the comprehensive contents, it helped me a lot.

[@stevenclive8910]

I do have a G14 GA402RJ running on a quad channel. Shows up on HW info and all...

[@kickskii]

Consider using UMAF to attempt a ram overclock to run it synchronised with each other and maybe better latency overall

[@thisoneguy2849]

yo did it work? looking to oc my 2023

[@UnknownEntity9420]

Thank you! Exactly the information I was looking for.

[@3lmghraby]

excellent video hands down I think this applies to all rog laptops with 8gb soldered now I am going to get the same crucial for m 2022 rog m16 8 g soldered and 12900h

[@TekyTimbo]

Yup, it technically would apply for all DDR5 laptops (Gen1 G14s had DDR4 but it would be similar - just dual/single channels as opposed to quad/dual channels)

[@juanxitaneitor]

Great analysis, thanks for the video

[@williamchen4480]

can you do a video with upgrading the SSD and wifi card?

[@publicname]

just remove and throw a new one inside

[@I_am_Borissss]

ur videos are awesome man! Keep it up. I just got the ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402RJ. As you mentioned in the video you also have the same product and upgraded to 40GB. I read a lot and most saying it only supports 24gb max. I am confused about which one should I go for? I am a mechanical design engineer and mainly using solidworks so I will be needing extra ram capacity.

[@TekyTimbo]

Thx and I actually wound up with 24GB total (8+16). I don't use Solidworks but based on research it does seem to benefit from more RAM for large, complex models. However, I suggest you run your largest project and see if you're maxing out your RAM (run Task Manager and check the Memory section under the Performance tab), and if not, you should be good. Also try asking on: www.reddit.com/r/SolidWorks/ Good luck!

[@i_ludius]

Installed a 16GB stick in my GA402. My revision had 16gb soldered and it's showing as running 32GB in Quad-Channel in HWinfo.

[@TekyTimbo]

Noice! Thanks for chiming in on HWinfo - think it defo was a bug with the app back when I put together this vid.

[@juangarcia-mn2tx]

Very helpful. Thank you!

[@datvik7187]

Brilliant explanation. I am saving your recommendation. I am wondering if there is a noticeable penalty when upgrading to a total of 24gb, in regards to mobile battery-only use. My machine is the 2022 G14 6700S with total of 16gb. I use it for web browsing when on battery.

[@TekyTimbo]

Unfortunately this will be difficult to answer, but time permitting, you've given me an idea for a future video. :) While I'd have to imagine that two sticks will use more power than a single one, I don't have an easy way to accurately measure the power draw of RAM. However, if your performance is currently fine and you're not hitting that 16GB upper limit, then you should be fine; otherwise if exceeding the RAM, your pagefile.sys on your SSD will come into use and in that case it'd draw slightly more power (though based on a quick search, it seems m.2 NVME power consumption (.08W) is quite negligible vs. RAM which Crucial mentioned is to assume 3W per 8GB stick for DDR3/DDR4 - assume slightly less than that for DDR5)

[@beemsquar1]

So I have a 16gb on board ram and was going to fit a 32gb card extra for running Sketchup/fusion 360 and prusa slicer, ofter at the same time. I also play some games, which it seems ram isn't as important anyway. AT £71 cost to upgrade, in your opinion is it worth the upgrade? Thanks in advance. Great video by the way, more informative than most.

[@TekyTimbo]

While I haven't used the apps mentioned, based on my research, I don't think it's worth it. As long as the recommended RAM is met (which ranges from 8-16 for these apps) 3D Modeling is more CPU intensive/dependent for best performance. If you're not experiening any performance issues today, I really doubt you'll see much difference between 48 vs 32 total. Also staying at 32 (2x16) will ensure that you are always capable of utilizing quad channel.

[@beemsquar1]

@@TekyTimbo thank you. You've just saved me a few pennies.

[@I_am_Borissss]

Hey, how did it go. I got the amd ryzen 16gb ram version and wondering will you upgrade to 40gig or 24gig

[@tapakip]

This is one helpful video!🏆

[@MoMo-hk1hn]

can you try the 48 gb ram on the 2022 model

[@yujie1973]

I am a heavy photoshop user and need lots of ram. I have the 2022 G14 with 8+8 configuration and 2017 iMac with 128gb memeroy installed. I would like now to have some work done on the go and would really appreicate a 32gb purchase so i can get the max 40gb. From your video, you recommends 8+16 instead of 8+32 due to difference in quad vs dual channel. In my use case, that will still be the case or installing a 32gb making more sense. Thank you.

[@TekyTimbo]

In your specific case I'd recommend just getting the 32GB, there is simply no compensating for lack of memory and using paging files would have a far greater performance impact than running just dual channel with DDR5.

[@yujie1973]

@@TekyTimbo Thank you. I actually did order the Crucial 32gb ram from Amazon and installed it this morning. My computer is very snappy now compared with before. it game a scare when the computer took longer to turn on after I installed the ram. Your video is very helpful BTW.

[@anhtrungtran4628]

Wonderful guide! Any chance that you have replaced your SSD? That boot speed was incredible. I have the RX6700S myself and I cannot get that boot speed with the stock SSD

[@TekyTimbo]

Thx! For full disclosure, I edited the intro scene to shorten the boot time as I didn't think people would want to sit and watch the whole boot. 😆

[@anhtrungtran4628]

@@TekyTimbo What i meant was when you pressed the button, the ROG logo showed up instantly! Mine would take a lot longer xD

[@TekyTimbo]

lol, yes I made a jump cut there so it seemed like it booted up ASAP but in reality it does take a couple of seconds to get to the logo.

[@menyaparindu]

Same as you i buy RX6700S model, can i upgrade to 40gb ram? So 8gb soldered with 32gb new RAM

[@KienNguyen-lb2ee]

Let me ask you something. So, if a 32Gb 3200Mhz ddr4 stick with CL 16 will have RL = 10, a 32Gb 6000Mhz ddr5 stick with CL 36 will have RL = 12. So can this ddr4 stick be better than ddr5, and if not, at What’s that ? I'm new to this, so if I'm wrong, please forgive me and explain. Peace ❤️ #answer 5:29

[@TekyTimbo]

DDR5's architechture is different and better in almost every way than DDR4 on multiple points (natively dual channel, lower voltage, higher bandwidth, etc.) thus using just the RL won't really give you a good indication of performance between the two. Here's an excellent article from last year that also features test results: www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-ddr5-vs-ddr4-ram-memory-z690-12900k Their conclusion at the time is copied below but I suspect if they revisited this at current prices, they'd likely give DDR5 the edge. Conclusion excerpt: "In the here and now, DDR5 remains a fascinating technology, even if it's not one that we recommend to value-oriented consumers. With AMD set to add DDR5 to their AM5 socket motherboards later this year, there's still plenty to investigate and we look forward to revisiting this topic down the road."

[@TekyTimbo]

Summarized version w/Benchmark charts posted on Reddit here: www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/11b5ylh/asus_g14_2022_ga402_comprehensive_ram_upgrade/

[@AsherDaddamio]

This is prob a stupid question but what is the exact crucial ram so I don't get scammed or buy the wrong one

[@TekyTimbo]

The specific module I ended up sticking with is this one: Crucial RAM 16GB DDR5 4800MT/s - amzn.to/3SxmI47 That is an affiliate link (I may earn a small commission but it does not affect the price you pay)

[@AsherDaddamio]

Thanks dude it's cheaper on the crucial webpage should I buy it from there

[@TekyTimbo]

I've purchased direct from Crucial without any issues before so I think it should be fine.

[@An1m3]

​@@TekyTimbo looks like that ram stick doesn't fit on the 2020 version of the g14. Made the mistake thinking it's the same exact ram slot as the g14 in the video.

[@Vh27-s1b]

Can I know your settings of power plan and armour crate....My laptop in ideal mode is touching 60 degrees... both cpu and GPU are touching 60 on ideal....can u make a video to tweak to make it cooler

[@Likitu264]

Thank you dude, I'll certainly be putting an extra 32gb stick there, do you know which n mi gen 4 is the best to upgrade storage?

[@aliozanozmelek]

The information you have given is great. I have an important question; ga402rj model 8+8 version CPU: 6800HS. I want to make 8+32, is there a CPU difference here? When I look at CPU-Z, it says 8x32bit.

[@TekyTimbo]

The 8 x 32-bit you see is supposed to indicate the total number of channels but I feel that it's been a bit flaky at least for AMD. Older versions of CPU-Z simply indicated single/dual but the dev recently changed they way it's reporting # of channels but doesn't seem to be reporting it correctly (or at least that's easily understood). In my video (@6:45), you can see that it reported 4 x 32-bit but that was with an older version (2.04.0). I just downloaded the latest version (2.06.1) and it's also showing 8 x 32-bit which doesn't make sense to me. I would try the latest non-Beta version of HWINFO64 (7.60) as it now correctly shows my GA402RJ as having Quad-Channel for memory (in my vid [@6:33] using v7.40 it showed Dual-Channel).

[@aliozanozmelek]

@@TekyTimbo Once again, thank you for your detailed answer. After watching your video and your reply, I order this one from amazon: "Crucial RAM 32GB DDR5 4800MHz CL40 CT32G48C40S5" . However, I see not a problem in working 8+32 >> 40gb in total, is it true?

[@TekyTimbo]

It should work fine but as I explained, you might see a performance hit as more of your ram (24GB of the 40GB) will not be running in quad channel (others on the Reddit thread linked in the description have also reported some performance issues running 40GB as well).

[@aliozanozmelek]

@@TekyTimbo I see, I carefully watched all the performance comparisons in the video. But I will perform SQL and Python programming on thsi machine. In addition, The thing that will put the most pressure on the device will be Unity Engine and Android Studio. Since the comparison in the video is about video editing tools, I can’t decide exactly. How much of a performance difference or issues? For example, while playing FPS game, does it experience drops or freezes? Or is it just about speed? Your answer is very important to me. According to him, I will cancel the 32gb one and order 16gb. I am waiting for your reply it is very important.

[@TekyTimbo]

I don't use the laptop for gaming so unfortuantely am unable to weigh in on that aspect but based on a couple of threads it seems that 40GB total (via 8GB onboard + 32GB expansion) has negatively impacted gaming performance, see these two threads on Reddit: 1) www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/1172vs1/g14_6700s_recent_decrease_in_performance_in_games/ 2) www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/12prvjp/24gb_vs_40gb_ram_upgrade_2022_model/ Caveat is that there can be other factors influencing the performance that the users may not have accounted for. You can also watch this video that has 10 games tested, however, the big caveat here is that he used a 16GB + 16GB arrangement so the laptop was always using quad channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5jLl36ngKaYnpo

[@nicolaslebrun9455]

I’m confused on if the ram stick is all the ram you have. My laptop says I have 8 gigs of ram and I only have 1 stick there is there ram somewhere else I am not using?

[@CryptoHolger]

My g14 ga402 isnt even a year old and the ram useage is at 90% with literally no program running. It's driving me fucking insane as I work from home

[@AnotherCasualViewer]

So i understand why 5600hz is worse. But what about 4800mhz (same speed as on-board) but CL38, instead of CL40 which is on board. Is the 38CL one simply going to be at 40 CL or is it going to destroy some timing sync benefit?

[@TekyTimbo]

Without the use of any overriding software, RAM with different speeds will run at the speed of the slowest module so the CL38 will run at CL40. However, even if it were able to run at CL38, the timing difference is so small (15.8ns vs 16.7ns). What makes a far greater difference is Dual vs Quad channels utilization.

[@Lost枯れた花]

Is it safe to upgrade the ram without disconnecting the battery?

[@TekyTimbo]

It should be and that's precisely what I did in this video, however, of course I need to disclaim that you should do so at your own risk. Using Asus' official guidance, it does suggest discharging the battery down to 25% or below and disconnecting it: rog.asus.com/articles/guides/how-to-upgrade-the-ram-and-ssd-of-your-rog-zephyrus-g14-laptop/

[@nathanlopes6377]

How much ram would you require for 4k video editing. Im getting the 402RJ version. Your video was very informative, thank you!

[@TekyTimbo]

It really depends on your NLE and while I know many recommend 32, unless you're working with really large files or are doing heavy multi-tasking, I think 24GB is more than sufficient. I think what's more important than size is maximizing use of quad-channel to improve your editing/rendering performance (see the comments from casiragi with his findings)

[@marindinu4948]

Hey. I have the R9+6800S and recently the MoB was changed by warranty and they sent it back with 16GB soldered and 8GB added (originally it was 8+8 but they couldn't find one with the same configuration). If I apply logic from you video the 16GB soldered will work quad and the 8GB dual?

[@TekyTimbo]

First off, that was a nice mobo swap, congrats! Now as to your q, individual DDR5 sticks are dual-channel by default (vs. single for DDR4). Now let’s draw an analogy and think of each RAM stick as a highway (hwy) with 2 lanes each. Then think of GB as representing the length of the hwy instead of capacity (I'll use miles but feel free to replace with kilometers). So you basically have 2 hwys with 4 lanes except that one is 16 miles long (which we’ll call Hwy 16) and the other 8 miles long (called Hwy 8). Let’s pretend that these hwys run parallel with each other and that they start at the same origin and are being filled with cars at the same rate. Basically you have 4 lanes for the first 8 miles but when the cars reach the end of Hwy 8, they’ll be diverted to Hwy 16 with 8 miles left to go but all cars now only have 2 lanes. Coming back to RAM sticks, the first 8GB of the soldered RAM will be “paired” with the 8GB stick to create 16GB of quad channels, the remainder 8GB of your soldered RAM will run in Dual channel as it’s not paired with anything. Now, this isn’t a perfect analogy because unlike Hwys, RAM (the “R” stands for Random) doesn’t fill up sequentially. The point is that the more RAM you have “paired” will create more opportunities for it to be used in quad channel and thus increase performance. So now when you upgrade that 8GB stick to 16GB, all 32GB will be able to run in quad. This is why for soldered RAM, it’s always desirable to have a higher amount since you can’t replace it.

[@kbrotv2297]

if i play games use igpu ,8+16gb quad channal or dual channal will be used? (8+8 vs 8+16 wich is batter?)thanks

[@evil-resident]

so what im getting is, i implant another 8GB 4800 speed if its a g14 2022 RJ model with soldered 8gb so it can run on 16 gigs? sorry my brain got scrambled

[@TekyTimbo]

You should determine how much RAM you really need: 1) Run all the apps/web browser tabs you normally need on a daily basis 2) Launch Task Manger > Performance > Memory tab and see what your memory usage is (AFAIK, all GA402s came with 4800 speed, but you can also check that here) It's likey that 16GB should be sufficient for regular usage and even 24GB should be fine for vast majority of regular users. Power users may beneift from higher RAM (8+32) but then will likely take a performance hit for reduction of quad-channel RAM utilization.

[@AlbiDoo]

Sorry, I'm a bit confused with the scores? so is it worth upgrading to 8+16 GB RAM? I get that was the best result, but how much difference to the original 8+8?

[@TekyTimbo]

It's a marginal difference but if your daily work flow demands > 16GB then it could make a significant difference vs. hitting your pagefile.

[@KaiAble0601]

For video editing, would you recommend 8+32 g?

[@TekyTimbo]

Many often recommend 32GB total but unless you're multitasking while editing or working with really large files - I think 24GB should be more than sufficient. In my rendering testing with Vegas Pro 15, it also performed better with 8+16 vs 8+32. EDIT: Of course, YMMV depending on the NLE you use.

[@casiragi]

@@TekyTimbo I installed 32GB RAM and so i have installed 8+32 GB and i can say that my system has problems with it. Cyberlink Powerdirector runs very bad, when you are working on bigger projects. It has lags and the sound stutters. With 8 + 8 GB Ram it runs very good,. I will test my system with 8 + 16 GB RAM in the next few days, but 8 + 32 GB i cannot recommend

[@casiragi]

Now I've tested my G14 with 8 + 16 GB RAM and I have no problems. Powerdirector runs very well. So I can say, 24GB RAM is much better than 40GB RAM.

[@TekyTimbo]

Thx for sharing your findings!

[@ivaylo8959]

I have qestion if onboard is 8gb inserting 24gb stick making 32gb total what will happen ? 8gb will run QUAD the other 24 will be asym. or ?

[@TekyTimbo]

So the 8GB OB and 8GB of the 24GB stick will run in Quad, the rest of the 16GB of the 24GB stick will run in Dual. In this config, there's a 50/50 split of chances the system will run with Quad or Dual channel. Now, let's say if you went with 8GB OB and 8GB stick, the system will have a 100% of running in Quad all the time thus it usually will yield better performance as long as what you're runing doesn't demand more than 16GB of RAM. Hope that helps.

[@ivaylo8959]

You say chance of running quad channel is 50%, how can I check how the system handles the total ram, after I install the stick ? I still can`t decide if I want 24 or 32gb in total. The 24gb stick is 5600mhz cl46 only, there is no 4800mhz cl40 24gb module available *I saw that its not a problem installing different mhz/timming stick, because the onboard one will make the new stick work at 4800mhz cl40*. But I mostly use the g14 for games and probably the 32GB ram in total will be better in terms of future proofing, having more % in free memory and for the purpose I use the device. Now I use approx. 89% of 16GB, if I go with 16GB stick (Total24GB), it will drop to 58% which is ok, and for the 24GB stick (Total 32GB) used will be 43%. If I decide one day to do some ram intense task I think the 32GB total will be best to go with. @@TekyTimbo

[@TekyTimbo]

Unfortuantely you can't check how the system will utilize RAM (the R does stand for Random after all) and I'm not aware of how to you can force a PC to always use quad-channel first. In my testing, the 40GB total consistenly scored worse on the synthetic benchmarks, YMMV. However, if your memory requirements demand more RAM then having more will still be better than hitting the pagefile which is slower.

[@ivaylo8959]

@@TekyTimbo Thank you very much for the answers and for making this video :) Amazing job !

[@dillonencinia2729]

Thank you!

[@nebsys]

Does this still apply with the 2023 version? Thank you

[@TekyTimbo]

As far as I know - yes.

[@mateoguevara3185]

es metal liquido o pasta termica

[@TekyTimbo]

(Disculpe cualquier error, usé el traductor de Google) No he revisado el mío, pero creo que todos los GA402 vienen con metal líquido: rog.asus.com/articles/rog-gaming-laptops/celebrating-three-years-of-liquid-metal-in-rog-laptops /

[@alimoghare8807]

Hi I recently bought a ga 402 2022 with 32gb ram but it has 2 different brands installed! one samsung and one hynix,is it normal? and i can see in hwinfo that it works in dual channel instead of quad!why it that? is my laptop repaired or upgraded before?

[@TekyTimbo]

There is only one RAM slot on GA402XX - any chance you're mistaking the SSD for the RAM? If not, where are you seeing the labels since the onboard memory is soldered. I've also had issues with HWINFO not reporting quad channel so try CPU-Z and see if it shows 4x32.

[@alimoghare8807]

@@TekyTimbo the CPU-Z identify the solded one as slot1 hynix brand and the sodimm slot 2 samsung brand.I can see it shows 4*32bit in CPU-Z,it means a quad is working correct?(the ssd brand is micron)

[@TekyTimbo]

Thx for clarification - I believe it's normal as mine were also not matched (Slot 1 = Micron / Slot 2 was Samsung which I replaced with Crucial now). 4x32 = quad so you are good there (caveat is that on mine, it was showing 4x32 after I removed Slot 2 and only had just the onboard RAM so I think there's something a little buggy with the way the system is reporting the RAM channels but I wouldn't worry too much as long as your benchmarks are comparable to what I posted).

[@alimoghare8807]

@@TekyTimbo thx for your help. i have another problem/question about my G14,my charging rate is always near 81 watt.Is it normal?so why there is a 240 watt charger sent in?

[@TekyTimbo]

LiIon batteries charge using CCCV method; there are many factors that will impact the charging rate with the state of charge being chief amongst other factors. You should normally see a higher charge rate the more the battery is discharged and much lower rates once it's almost fully charged. Depending on what you're using to measure the charge rate, it may not be accounting for the total draw from the charger. Case in point, using a physical watt meter, I measure about 6-20W when the laptop is almost fully charged but can be as high as 150W while under heavy load (during this time, the Battery Bar software only shows about 70W charge rate). The 240W charger will ensure it is able to both charge the battery and meet the additional power demands of your laptop under extreme loads.

[@kutjut]

Hello! May I know is this support a 5600mhz ram?

[@TekyTimbo]

"Support" as in installing it and using the available RAM? Yes. Actually utilizing the 5600Mhz speed? No, (at least not natively*) as the onboard RAM would restrict speeds to 4800Mhz. *There is supposedly some RAM overclocking software called UMAF but I've not used it so can't comment on it.

[@kutjut]

@@TekyTimbo Thank you for getting back to me 😄 helps a lot

[@shiny_nidoran]

very nice

[@antianime-pfp3291]

wait I thought more ram=more speed what am I missing

[@TekyTimbo]

Generally yes, but it's conditonal. So: More RAM = more speed __if__ you require it. If you check the section on Quad vs. Dual channel, you'll see why having more memory may perform worse than less.

[@Joshr13047]

hell yeah