Turbocharging a 420cc Drift Trike

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CarsandCameras

CarsandCameras

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@seafire820
@seafire820 5 жыл бұрын
wow its weird going this far back. it never felt like anything has changed but jumping back so far shows how much the video, audio, and editing has improved so much.
@TheAnthonyBrandi
@TheAnthonyBrandi 6 ай бұрын
Foreal tho. They look weird af
@Maverick_Van_Traveller
@Maverick_Van_Traveller 8 жыл бұрын
"exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens, and you go faster".-Jeremy Clarkson
@clipsedrag13
@clipsedrag13 7 жыл бұрын
M Kefer greatest man of all time
@sree4909
@sree4909 6 жыл бұрын
200th like!
@joeshmo2473
@joeshmo2473 5 жыл бұрын
Get er done !!! Whooooo doggy. MURICA!
@fischlimonade
@fischlimonade 5 жыл бұрын
@@sree4909 225th
@3DWHIZZ
@3DWHIZZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@fischlimonade 350!
@NoahWL1
@NoahWL1 6 жыл бұрын
I'm two years late, but I absolutely love these build log-like videos. The videos that show the plans, building, and of course lots of tests are my favorite. I feel like I'm really along for the ride with you guys!
@cameron_horton03
@cameron_horton03 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all were so simple and unenthusiastic back in the day😂😂
@tonycampopiano7161
@tonycampopiano7161 4 жыл бұрын
Brooo I was just thinking that same thing😭😂
@Shark_Theory
@Shark_Theory 3 жыл бұрын
I think i liked them better this way but the way they are now is ok too
@niklagamer3729
@niklagamer3729 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shark_Theory why?
@MississippiMudMX
@MississippiMudMX 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shark_Theory same. i prefer this
@chaley9093
@chaley9093 5 жыл бұрын
Love your determination......keep it up. I built turbine engines out of turbos 18 years ago. 143,00 RPM's out of my HT1. 48 pounds of boost. Over 200PSI of fuel pressure. It was a beast. This was on kerosene and 10% gasoline. I have not maintained the website but someone is still hosting it. If the CarsandCamera guys want me to publish it on thier space, I will. I have not touched the site in 18 years. I am so proud of the site. I did all the web development myself.
@brandondavis8286
@brandondavis8286 8 жыл бұрын
Needs Boost, mixture, and ammeter gauges!! And I think you can run 2 charging coils at once behind the flywheel!
@brandondavis8286
@brandondavis8286 8 жыл бұрын
+CarsandCameras
@frankhaugen9912
@frankhaugen9912 8 жыл бұрын
I made a turbo work with the carb on my gokart with a 390cc engine. I just put the carb on the air filter side of the turbo and raised the fuel tank a few inches, works perfect without EFI. Currently running 0,9 bar of boost pressure
@DustySteel
@DustySteel 8 ай бұрын
What did you do with the jetting in the carb?
@andrewwilson8317
@andrewwilson8317 8 жыл бұрын
You need to get a work bench or bike lift guys! Your knees and backs will love you for it! Much nicer to work on,easier all round. Maybe on of those pump up jobs from harbour freight?
@AndreLuiz-ip3fh
@AndreLuiz-ip3fh 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Wilson oh yeah, they need it.
@jefferyholcombe5189
@jefferyholcombe5189 8 жыл бұрын
charge pipe is way to long! put the turbo in draw threw setup but put the compressor blowing directly in to the motor. will have to make longer exhaust to turbo but with so long of charge pipe fuel is not staying atomized into cylinder. draw threw does work even though it's hard on the turbo. Pontiac trans am turbo's used this setup with mixed success.
@Thrive-Off-Grid
@Thrive-Off-Grid 4 жыл бұрын
Centrifugal force will separate the gas completely out of the air and stick it to the sides of the tube. Need to put the carb after the turbo the piston squish is what atomizes the air fuel mixture.
@trevinskiking2165
@trevinskiking2165 3 жыл бұрын
Pontiac Trans Am were very successful at it,the draw back was it was a 301 V8 lacking cubes instead of the low comp 350ci.Trev NZ
@trevinskiking2165
@trevinskiking2165 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thrive-Off-Grid That's not entirely right but who gives a monkeys....Trev NZ
@Thrive-Off-Grid
@Thrive-Off-Grid 3 жыл бұрын
@@trevinskiking2165 actually it is Ive done this in a lab
@Thrive-Off-Grid
@Thrive-Off-Grid 3 жыл бұрын
@@trevinskiking2165 This is how BMW is getting rid of humidity in the air to make it more dense
@blackmajik5602
@blackmajik5602 8 жыл бұрын
You guys ROCK!!! Not to mention some of the better drift trike drivers I have seen .... to bad the TURDO didnt work out very well on stage 1 ... keep the good video's coming!
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 8 жыл бұрын
So it isn't perfect. That didn't stop us from riding it!
@patrikmuller151
@patrikmuller151 8 жыл бұрын
If the turbo doesnt work with the 420cc you could put it on the 670 :D
@BK-it6wg
@BK-it6wg 8 жыл бұрын
+CarsandCameras do a blow off valve pleaseeeee.WUUUUUUUSH CHi Chi chi chi...
@ged2529
@ged2529 8 жыл бұрын
+CarsandCameras Do a video on what happens to an engine when you throw a rock into the turbo :P
@williamneigum7002
@williamneigum7002 8 жыл бұрын
+Borut Korosec you cant put a blowoff valve on a draw through carb it will have gas coming out with the air unless they go with efi
@BK-it6wg
@BK-it6wg 8 жыл бұрын
sorry i knew something didnt add up ;)
@xJMacD
@xJMacD 8 жыл бұрын
Make that guy with the country accent say "Propane and propane accessories"
@alejandrocervantes4523
@alejandrocervantes4523 7 жыл бұрын
GRIP Godt Damnit Bobby
@hellohun7331
@hellohun7331 6 жыл бұрын
He is the voice of Hank Hill.
@joeshmo2473
@joeshmo2473 5 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhhhhh doggy
@travis4798
@travis4798 8 жыл бұрын
Carb ALWAYS goes before the turbo, otherwise the turbo will just push air back through the jets. yes you can use turbo's with a carb. Btw fuel mix needle needs to be turned a ways.
@dipstiksubaru3246
@dipstiksubaru3246 8 жыл бұрын
No they Don't
@jamesflores9456
@jamesflores9456 8 жыл бұрын
+Travis Piper roadkill put the carb after the turbo
@ScottiesVlog
@ScottiesVlog 8 жыл бұрын
+Travis Piper not always but its normally always easier.
@italkfan
@italkfan 8 жыл бұрын
+Travis Piper as far as i know you can do both, but, for after the turbo you need to pressurize the float bowl so this doesnt happen.... im guessing they didnt do that.
@liamcooper5202
@liamcooper5202 6 жыл бұрын
@Fabio Spiesanzotti you mean after the turbo.... fuck even Holley make turbo carbs that go post turbo. You just need to pressurise the fuel system higher than the turbo boost pressure. Same shit needs to be done with EFI cars. Thats why there is such a thing as rising fuel pressure regualtors.
@racrx7
@racrx7 5 жыл бұрын
Carbs and turbos did fine in the days before EFI. Not as efficient as EFI, but functional. The complete carb needs to be enclosed in a sealed box when doing a “blow through” setup.
@PeachLover91
@PeachLover91 8 жыл бұрын
So basically you put the carb where turbo intake would normally be and, so the fuel-air mix would be sucked through the turbo and into the chamber? And besides rough start couldnt you set idle at a higher rpm to help the cause of rough idle and startup? any feedback is helpful thanks
@emmettcarr2988
@emmettcarr2988 7 жыл бұрын
thats what i was thinking too
@BigBoyLies
@BigBoyLies 8 жыл бұрын
the carb prolly need a bigger jet? since more air is coming in, it leans itself under boost? just a thought..
@Jacob199801
@Jacob199801 8 жыл бұрын
you could put in a jet that would be suitable for the boost but then it wouldn't idle because there would be to much fuel at idle
@KacKLaPPeN23
@KacKLaPPeN23 8 жыл бұрын
+Jacob Waters I don't know what carb is used in this particular application, but usually carbs have a few different ways of adjusting the mixture. If you change the main jet you mostly affect 3/4 to wot. 1/4 to 3/4 are mainly influenced by the needle and idle to 1/4 by the idle jet and a screw you can adjust. If you would only swap the main jet it would have basically no effect on idle.
@andrewfaivor1922
@andrewfaivor1922 7 жыл бұрын
instead of a blow through system, you should with the carb to before the turbo for a draw through system eliminates most of the modifications need to be done to the carb. also an electric fuel pump and turbo pressure regulator would keep the engine from leaning out
@gt20modding88
@gt20modding88 7 жыл бұрын
No if you payed attention to the video he said “we jetted the carb.”
@ailokemi92
@ailokemi92 6 жыл бұрын
andrew faivor they are using a suck through system. But thats poor for tuning, i'm curious what mods you mean? Only mod u neen on blow through setup, is to pressurize the bowl on the carb to help pushing fuel up the jet
@TheSchwaehn
@TheSchwaehn 8 жыл бұрын
add intercooler, E85, choo choo noise blow off valve, direct injection and an ECU :P
@mrkthmn
@mrkthmn 8 жыл бұрын
+Schwaehn Someone watches MCM, haha!
@TheSchwaehn
@TheSchwaehn 8 жыл бұрын
mrkthmn maaad
@RuPerfekt
@RuPerfekt 8 жыл бұрын
haltech elite should work :)
@KCBrink
@KCBrink 8 жыл бұрын
+Schwaehn maaaaad. glad to see someone who watches that as well.
@offthewall4919
@offthewall4919 8 жыл бұрын
Been watching a bit of MCM have we? 😎
@MrSankari100
@MrSankari100 8 жыл бұрын
You need to put your boost From turbo to every "hole" in your carboretor and add fuel pump and regulator for fuel or put turbos boost in fuel tank. You need to do it so that turbo blows in carboretor!😀
@MrSankari100
@MrSankari100 8 жыл бұрын
+CasardCameras
@comethiburs2326
@comethiburs2326 8 жыл бұрын
+MrSankari100 That wont work. you either need to place the whole carb in a bell connected to the turbo pipe via a vaccum line so it runs at boost pressure and face feeding/tuning issues or loose idling as a whole.
@steveskouson9620
@steveskouson9620 8 жыл бұрын
+Côme Thiburs You'd also need to pressurize the fuel tank, otherwise boost will blow fuel back up the fuel line. Guys, using a turbo to SUCK through a carb WILL work. Look at a 62 Corvair Spyder. Turboed, and had a carb. From the factory. Using the Blow method, you do need to pressurize the whole system, including the tank. (There are fuel regulators that will compensate for boost, on turbo cars, but that may be out of your range. You'd still need a fuel pump.) EFI, here we come! steve
@comethiburs2326
@comethiburs2326 8 жыл бұрын
exact steve. forgot the pressure regulator. I dont think EFI will improve the power tho, to this point only running methanol or E85 ethanol will improve the engine output, more 95-98 gas in that thing will only add detonation risks and grenade the valvetrain.
@Muffin_Masher
@Muffin_Masher 8 жыл бұрын
huh? 95-98 "gas" will not add detonation risks..............the higher the octane the LESS flammable and MORE resistant to detonation a fuel is..............not the other way around, boy racers think that putting 98 or 104 in their buzzbox gives it more power, it actually gives it less power UNLESS the engine has higher compression and/or advanced timing to take advantage of the higher octane, at which point the car will not run on lower octane fuel without detonating. If I put 91 in my ute it would be a bad day, because 95 is the minimum it can run on, not that it matters to me because I wouldn't put 91 in my lawnmower let alone a car ;) (in Australia regular unleaded, 91, is garbage filthy shit, premium fuels, 95/98/100, are MUCH cleaner)
@dempsey96
@dempsey96 6 жыл бұрын
This showed up on my feed for some reason, thought it was a new video then I realized. Wow how y'all have changed!!
@crankysports
@crankysports 6 жыл бұрын
man, going back and watching these old videos, you guys have definitely gotten a lot more polished on your presentations. I don't miss the white-afro, but to each his own.
@Puffalupagus360
@Puffalupagus360 8 жыл бұрын
also if you pack the pipes with sand you bend them without them crushing and no pie cuts are needed
@nathanharland3375
@nathanharland3375 8 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks I never heard of that. That's a great tip
@Scott-wl2zh
@Scott-wl2zh 6 жыл бұрын
Puffalupagus360 you can also tape off your pipe end fill it with water and freeze it the ice will keep it from crushing when you bend it as well
@dave1135
@dave1135 8 жыл бұрын
biggest problem with that carburetor is its designed to work in a narrow air fuel ratio. as the boost increases, the air imbalances the mixture making it lean. efi compensates for the variable ratio. sadly, small engine carburetors are not designed to operate in a wide power band like a car carburetor.
@talonford
@talonford 6 жыл бұрын
Build an enclosure for the carb, use the turbo pressure to pressurize the enclosure and you should be fine. Linkage will be a little tricky though.
@gregandcourtneybentley906
@gregandcourtneybentley906 5 жыл бұрын
Build a box and put carb inside so it pressurises the outside of the carb too, that way it will not push the fuel out the vents, that's the only way a carb will work with a turbo.
@donaldkumler5149
@donaldkumler5149 8 жыл бұрын
what you need is a boost and afr gauge. Get a china 26mm mikuni and keep the draw thru setup. You should be able to properly tune it between 11 to 11.7 afr. If you get it working right you will start to see frost on the inlet pipe and maybe the turbo housing. The atomizing of the fuel works as a intercooler, and it should make good power. I'd also keep the boost under 8 psi.
@3DMachines
@3DMachines 8 жыл бұрын
Wearing a t-shirt and shorts while grinding. Savage
@gronno1
@gronno1 8 жыл бұрын
I thought I recognised your name!
@Ps3slom40
@Ps3slom40 8 жыл бұрын
You need to do some builds it would be sweet
@nickj6275
@nickj6275 6 жыл бұрын
he will never finish it!
@arrarr3335
@arrarr3335 6 жыл бұрын
You don’t?
@tonykieffer1396
@tonykieffer1396 6 жыл бұрын
Not really I’m 15 and do that also weld with no jacket.
@JonsGarage89
@JonsGarage89 8 жыл бұрын
Draw through setups are perfectly fine. You just need to either get some larger jets, or drill out the ones that are in there.
@Tary1233
@Tary1233 8 жыл бұрын
+Jon's Garage they say in the video that they drilled out the jets. the problem their having is really do to the lack of control of the carburetor. A gfi will definitely help
@JonsGarage89
@JonsGarage89 8 жыл бұрын
I must have missed that part.
@H3adcrash
@H3adcrash 8 жыл бұрын
You gotta put a boost gauge on that thing! :D
@lbzhonest5984
@lbzhonest5984 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think it's been 5 years already
@UnTamedMustang
@UnTamedMustang 8 жыл бұрын
1:48 - 1:47 "To be honest we are not looking to make any major power gains. We are just putting it on there because it's cool." Thanks for saying that. Now I have reason to complete my turbo 212. Can also use this quote because ppl keep saying You guys didn't do it successfully therefore it can't be done. Obviously they don't know about carbureted turbocharging. (the people that say that)
@Darren.G
@Darren.G 8 жыл бұрын
....when you're trying to get stuff done around the house, and the turbo install pops up....... thanks for killing my productivity.
@West_Workz
@West_Workz 8 жыл бұрын
I had the same though. Lol
@MoondyneJoe
@MoondyneJoe 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys Love what you are trying to do and I just want to ask a question and see if this idea is possible as you said you are not able to charge the battery could you put a pulley on the axle and hook up a car alternator instead to produce power needed or would it take to much out of the engine in doing so ? Regards from Western Australia Tony
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 8 жыл бұрын
+Moondyne .Joe i believe that would be a option if we were in a tight spot. im sure there is something wrong with the charging system or can be upgraded. not sure wich option we will go with. lol greetings Australia
@MoondyneJoe
@MoondyneJoe 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering Isaac it was just a thought nothing wrong with a few Alternatives Love the KZbins People this 56 year old enjoys your antics and look forward to each new one posted G'day USA
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 8 жыл бұрын
+Moondyne .Joe Hey, that's probably what we'll end up doing.
@MoondyneJoe
@MoondyneJoe 8 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see what happens when you get the turbo running properly< Might I suggest also you take of the plastic outers on the back wheels while in this upgrade phase ? better control, traction and for tuning you wont be spinning the back wheels all the time and should get a constant speed
@Kryptive
@Kryptive 8 жыл бұрын
+Moondyne .Joe Fellow Aussie, I had the exact same idea.
@timramich
@timramich 8 жыл бұрын
Carburetors can handle boost just fine. You just need a fuel pump to overcome the charge pressure.
@63ch31
@63ch31 8 жыл бұрын
And an intercooler so the turbo will actually affect the power.
@Twisted07
@Twisted07 8 жыл бұрын
yup for whatever amount of boost pressure you need that much more fuel pressure going to the carb, or the turbo pressure will just blow the fuel back into the fuel bowl and the fuel tank A blow off value / waste gate also would help a lot, when you spool the turbo then let off all that boost pressure has no where to go, making it hard to go back to idle until the pressure is gone.. it could be opening the butterfly in the carb when this happens.
@Mr-md3sf
@Mr-md3sf 8 жыл бұрын
+ted clubber lang not necessarily boost is boost wreathe its hot or cold, now an inter cooler would definitely make more power but on a small motor like this i would doubt it would be a significant gain with what i would assume is not a lot of boost pressure. inter coolers really get hand around 9 psi. Plus with a suck through carburetor set up like they have now the atomized fuel will cool the intake air/fuel charge a tremendous amount. people out in the salt flats tend to run this style set up because the fuel cools the charge so efficiently that they can drop the inter cooler from the build and make the same and sometimes even more power due to the lower restrictiveness of the intake set up, and it doubles as weight reduction
@Twisted07
@Twisted07 8 жыл бұрын
+john Doe (mr. 250) i 100% agree with you an inter cooler is a must but i also think have control over boost is good, and no matter what she anit going to do much without more fuel pressure lol
@theheadone
@theheadone 8 жыл бұрын
+ted clubber lang no, this small turbo does not need an intercooler.
@airbrushsavvy1750
@airbrushsavvy1750 8 жыл бұрын
good attempt boys don't give in the internet criticism. i dont see any of them building their own turbo drift kart........ keep going, do some research, rock on!
@stevenbetteridge3548
@stevenbetteridge3548 8 жыл бұрын
you guys inspired me to start building machines! and fixing them! one of my favorite channels on youtube to this very day! keep on doing what you do and makin videos!
@TheCreeperInterior
@TheCreeperInterior 8 жыл бұрын
only if you guys added a turbo to the 670 who knows what will happen great builds guys!!
@danielbargas3377
@danielbargas3377 8 жыл бұрын
Yea if you use a carb on a small engine it needs to go through the intake or have a pressured system
@kennethcohagen9037
@kennethcohagen9037 8 жыл бұрын
I would suggest putting the carb on the intake side of the turbo, not the outlet. Carbs don't like to be blown through. The bowl vent needs to see the same pressure as the mouth of the Venturi, and that's not possible on a blow through set up.
@ettla123
@ettla123 8 жыл бұрын
+Kenneth Cohagen The guys in this video clearly dont know how a carburettor works...
@deeznuts4314
@deeznuts4314 8 жыл бұрын
yeah you're right.to control the air going inside the engine it must be on the intake manifold not on the exhaust instead.
@richpotatothebestg.m.ovegg2599
@richpotatothebestg.m.ovegg2599 6 жыл бұрын
@@deeznuts4314 lol are you dumb
@shifterkart1
@shifterkart1 8 жыл бұрын
Man, it would be awesome to have buddy who is mechanically incline and can weld/fabricate. All you need is beers and they'd be happy to give you a helping hand.
@luvstruck2733
@luvstruck2733 8 жыл бұрын
Here is something you might try. Mount the turbo where the exhaust is flowing through one side of it, and the other side will bring fresh, compressed air into the carburetor. A bigger jet would help performance. A carburetor can be used with good results, but hey, I would love to see you install fuel injection system on one. I didn't even know they made one. Love the videos.
@FlowBaka
@FlowBaka 8 жыл бұрын
You have to incase the whole carb in the charge pipe so it has equal pressure inside and out.
@zososldier
@zososldier 8 жыл бұрын
draw through turboed carb is fine and is actually the best way to keep your air/fuel mixture correct. blow through like you had it at first will be either super lean at the top end or super fat at the bottom end because most carbs have to reference of pressure only flow. you also cant use blow through because you dont have a fuel pump. the air is just back feeding the fuel lines. you just need a better path between the turbo and the cylinder head and that draw through will work fine. with all of those pie cuts being welded with a mig welder and all the funky angles i bet it has barely any flow until higher rpms. if you had a tight radius bend made with a tubing bender and correct/straight flanges it would idle a lot better. Either way. sweet vids
@muhammadsyafiq7760
@muhammadsyafiq7760 7 жыл бұрын
a c Do we need to add an intercooler fot draw through setup like this? BOV maybe?
@theq4602
@theq4602 6 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadsyafiq7760 No intercoolers on draw through. Only water/meth injection upstream of the carb would work. Well an intercooler WOULD work. But it isnt a very good idea due to fuel condensing on the insides.
@borninak
@borninak 8 жыл бұрын
He's like Harland Williams, Hank Hill, and cousin Eddie all rolled into one.
@SrgDics
@SrgDics 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever taken the sliders off and ran it with just rubber tires?
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 6 жыл бұрын
I am loving this. Where were you (and KZbin) in the 1970's!! Can't wait to watch part "too" with EFI. Ya!!
@mattsez2879
@mattsez2879 8 жыл бұрын
lol....love that poor dog you guys torment every test drive
@darkmatter3237
@darkmatter3237 8 жыл бұрын
He's like "hey what's up guys"
@Studdfromhell
@Studdfromhell 4 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. I would like to suggest maybe switching to 2 stroke engines. Lets see what you can do with them.
@AttilaThebung
@AttilaThebung 8 жыл бұрын
That turbo would be a TDO25. Little tiny earring of a turbocharger
@mrfyxr7489
@mrfyxr7489 7 жыл бұрын
Wish I could play with you guys. Sure looks like fun. I have not read thru thee comments, but in the olden days the '57 Ford 312 w/ Paxton supercharger Ford put the carb into a box. The entire carb was contained so the pressure was the same all over...except down he venturi. This gives the same conditions that the carb would experience except with a lot heavier atmosphere. Thats the physics as I understand it. It is a handy place to attach awater/alcohol injector for detonation...also keeps the fuel/air mixture down stream from the turbo.
@thesh1ttygamer960
@thesh1ttygamer960 6 жыл бұрын
Sitting back, chilling out at work & marathon watching C&C. Good times.
@hananas2
@hananas2 8 жыл бұрын
what if you put two of those on the V-twin?
@jdmarmy2734
@jdmarmy2734 8 жыл бұрын
lol that is real boost thete
@patrikmuller151
@patrikmuller151 8 жыл бұрын
please dont cut pipes when they are attached to the turbo you will geht shavings into your turbo
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 8 жыл бұрын
+Patrik Müller did you see the card board blocking it off. and we had rags in there too
@patrikmuller151
@patrikmuller151 8 жыл бұрын
Isaac it'll be fine ohh ok i didnt See that ^^
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 8 жыл бұрын
its cool. nothing wrong with comments
@voltag3man
@voltag3man 8 жыл бұрын
Next video "Fuel injecting the drift trike!"
@awptickes
@awptickes 8 жыл бұрын
You need a boost referenced carburetor... Easy way to do that: There's an atmosphere hole on the carb that you need to run to the charge pipe, and your fuel input to the carb needs a check valve.
@steves5877
@steves5877 8 жыл бұрын
When you do a blow through system the carb needs to see the same boost on all ports. That carb probably has an atmospheric reference which is where gas was blowing out. Nice Z btw..
@spinracing
@spinracing 8 жыл бұрын
Build a metal air box with the carb in its original location.. but INSIDE the air box. Then pressurize the entire box.
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 8 жыл бұрын
thanks
@hdBattousai
@hdBattousai 8 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. just need a blow thru carb setup by equalizing pressure outside of carb
@alexduke5402
@alexduke5402 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like it'd be a nightmare sealing all the linkages
@theq4602
@theq4602 6 жыл бұрын
why not a draw thru carb?
@draggonhedd
@draggonhedd 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, you guys might be blowing the spark out, try a colder plug?. That thing should have no issue idling with that carb. Thats basically how they turbo old single carb bugs. Do some googling for draw-through carb turbocharging. What you have should work perfectly. Your turbo might also be oversized. Also, I would redo your intake and exhaust tubing, it's super restrictive and has some sharp bends that shouldn't be there. That should all be as open as possible.
@nicholialexander7789
@nicholialexander7789 8 жыл бұрын
u guys have plenty of free time
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 8 жыл бұрын
+Nicholi Alexander Not usually. I was just on spring break that week.
@KartFab
@KartFab 8 жыл бұрын
+CarsandCameras just wait until you have kids, then you will not even know what that free time business is all about.
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 8 жыл бұрын
***** Haha, I'm sure.
@RileyTheMonster299
@RileyTheMonster299 3 жыл бұрын
God I wish I lived close to you guys. It would be really nice to have somebody to build toys with. It's a nice to see a couple of grown man just like me stuck in their childhood just like me. I keep trying to get my friends into building toys but they never last they usually make it through one build then they get a toy and they are no longer interested in building the next one. You guys just keep on going to the next project. Just like me!!
@Koshunae
@Koshunae 6 жыл бұрын
You guys have come so far in just 2 years.
@htcooley04
@htcooley04 8 жыл бұрын
I'm peanut butter and jealous
@tracepulliam9382
@tracepulliam9382 8 жыл бұрын
Ha
@cecilholdway9177
@cecilholdway9177 4 жыл бұрын
It's so funny to see that ike has no clue what the hell he's doing sometimes
@quevicular
@quevicular 8 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA, as a fabricator, I have to question why you guys just didnt buy a few pieces of pipe that were already bent, maybe pipe elbows at least. Its a ton of excess work to do what you did. Lots of restriction of flow with the weld penetration on the inside of the pipe.Thought I would let you know for next time. Otherwise your projects are cool.
@iant720
@iant720 8 жыл бұрын
I always buy a ton of bends, learned that a while ago aha
@quevicular
@quevicular 8 жыл бұрын
Ian Thompson Id actually like to go down south to these guys and assist in building some of their projects. They have good ideas just not quite the knowhow, but they are learning. They are funny as hell. It will be fine, hahaha
@nickmccarthy8002
@nickmccarthy8002 6 жыл бұрын
thank you! a few u-bends from an exaust supply or from jegs or summit goes along way. maybe a bench with a vice and a sawzall wouldnt hurt either. it still wouldnt help these guys though.
@dominick253
@dominick253 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to fill the pipe with sand and bend it?
@JordonGaming
@JordonGaming 8 жыл бұрын
+CarsandCameras I love the videos! I always wake up HOPING you guy upload a vid. I love the work you guys do, as well!
@glitchdoubt1525
@glitchdoubt1525 8 жыл бұрын
put the turbo on the 670!!!!!!!!
@jeffreyfehr5850
@jeffreyfehr5850 8 жыл бұрын
YES THIS IS WHAT I WAS THINK
@mercedesguy8520
@mercedesguy8520 8 жыл бұрын
+John Smith be cool if they did
@Stryke607
@Stryke607 8 жыл бұрын
wait, you put the carborator in front of the turbo? so ... your turbo is full of gas-air-mixture? That sounds wrong ...
@mackiehughes7982
@mackiehughes7982 8 жыл бұрын
+Stryke look up azn from street outlaws beetle it has the same sort of setup its completely safe
@Stryke607
@Stryke607 8 жыл бұрын
mackie hughes I don't doubt it's safe, but how does it effect the turbo?
@iamadness69
@iamadness69 8 жыл бұрын
+Stryke I'm pretty sure the fuel will just help cooling and lubricating the turbo, also it's gonna vaporize the fuel better, not wrong at all...
@mackiehughes7982
@mackiehughes7982 8 жыл бұрын
it doesnt the centre section of the turbo is sealed so its cool
@nobster146
@nobster146 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't it possible that the turbo gets hot enough to ignite the fuel going through it?
@juegosakura
@juegosakura 8 жыл бұрын
this carburetor isn't prepared to pressure of turbo, learn more!
@brianbrwa
@brianbrwa 8 жыл бұрын
You can run a turbo/carb, by having the carb feeding into the compressor intake. It is difficult to get the fuel/air mix right though. And you would need a rather large carb.
@nyxkeres8597
@nyxkeres8597 8 жыл бұрын
you could build a pressure box around the carb so that its in equalized pressure? But there will be tons of work tuning needed to be done but thats the simpler design. fuel injection wise just grab a single honda injector and a mega squirt and put a magnet and a reed switch to get your trigger from the fly wheel.
@coreygrace258
@coreygrace258 8 жыл бұрын
these guys need to go back to boost school.
@johnvaclik1094
@johnvaclik1094 8 жыл бұрын
GET A BETTER AUDIO RECORDER. As Mighty Car Mods said once: A youtube vid with a bad picture is ok, a vid with a bad audio, people close the window. Your unfiltered low cost buzzing mic with static in it hurts my ears. Watching it on the phone does not hurt, but a good set of speakers on my desk actually do hurt my ears. And I do need to crank it, because the noise level muffles the commentary. I LOVE YOUR PROJECT AND YOUR APPROACH, just invest the 50 or so bucks in an external audio recorder. You already put a lot of effort in it and this is the smallest investment with the biggest effect.
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 8 жыл бұрын
+john vaclik The audio recorder built in to the OSMO isn't great, but I don't really see it being a problem... I can hear everything clearly on my phone and on my Harman Kardon desk speakers. Going into the OSMO is a Rode Videomic Pro; a very highly esteemed microphone. Yes, ideally we'd have a separate audio recorder, but that isn't an option right now.
@tylergarza6632
@tylergarza6632 8 жыл бұрын
+john vaclik Dude. their mic is fine. it may not be great, but it's not nearly as bad as you describe it. I use a full 300W Technics Amps system on my Yamaha monitors at home and it sounds fine. calm down. obviously their fan-base watches their videos because of the content. not the audio quality.
@alexalt2888
@alexalt2888 8 жыл бұрын
+john vaclik I didnt even notice it until you said something. Its not a problem at all.
@johnvaclik1094
@johnvaclik1094 8 жыл бұрын
+john vaclik dudes it even changes the volume when you zoom in or focus. Audio on the level of sophistication unexceeded by that exhaust pipe.
@tylergarza6632
@tylergarza6632 8 жыл бұрын
john vaclik Either you're making up this bullshit or you have some weird problem with your computer. None of this is even remotely true on my end.
@tyrick2441
@tyrick2441 8 жыл бұрын
pretty slow for a 420cc engine?
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 8 жыл бұрын
+tyrick fletcher It is only geared for 40.
@tyrick2441
@tyrick2441 8 жыл бұрын
+CarsandCameras makes sense don't really know a lot about small engines and the gearing and stuff
@tyragan9744
@tyragan9744 8 жыл бұрын
And i think its also governed this is what i think i heard but dont quote me on that
@tyrick2441
@tyrick2441 8 жыл бұрын
+Ty Ragan even if it is it would be faster my 125cc goes least 70
@JustKyzuuh
@JustKyzuuh 8 жыл бұрын
+tyrick fletcher I honestly doubt that, unless you have a shifter cart or one hell of a gear ratio
@ErrtuZarathos
@ErrtuZarathos 8 жыл бұрын
It's nice that people try and learn that way. Some times it's better to read and learn that way and later on try it. And some people shouldn't try at all.
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 8 жыл бұрын
+Errtu Zarathos we are learning
@petermurphy6120
@petermurphy6120 8 жыл бұрын
I like the effort put into this but I have a few things to say. First I have turbocharged an 8hp honda engine with a similar sized turbocharger and had great results. Secondly you don't need an EFI when you turbocharge a gasoline engine we have made numerous carbureted engines that have ran in excess of 25 pounds of boost and that produced 800 hp. Furthermore, I see you used a draw through system where the carburetor is mounted on the front of the turbocharger, I used a blow through system where the carburetor is after the air is compressed. Also, when you turbocharge any engine you need higher fuel pressures so there is no back flow of fuel, so you need to run a boost line from the turbo to the gas tank to increase the pressure because it is gravity fed system. You also need to increase your jet size in the carburetor to make it a little more rich rather than leaning it out. Also i used a belt driven oil pump for the turbocharger and had no issues. This comment is to help out your cause and if you have any more questions I would be more than happy to help. Good luck!
@cerealspoon7876
@cerealspoon7876 8 жыл бұрын
the pipe looks like a rattle snakes rattle
@kylethetreekat840
@kylethetreekat840 8 жыл бұрын
WWAAAAHHHHH PSHHHH
@martijnbruggers8694
@martijnbruggers8694 8 жыл бұрын
+Kyle TheTreeKat BWAAAAA BWAAAAA TSU TSU TSU TSU
@SkyTechElectronics
@SkyTechElectronics 8 жыл бұрын
Damn kids don't know how to blow through a carb.
@XxMassiveGamerxX
@XxMassiveGamerxX 8 жыл бұрын
FYI that pipe you are talking about, the one that comes off exhaust side of the turbo, is called the turbo manifold.
@duncancameron6657
@duncancameron6657 8 жыл бұрын
ha guys,I'm just funning I dig the stuff you two are doing! Please don't stop! Dano.
@kospap2205
@kospap2205 8 жыл бұрын
just buy a 400cc used modern bike engine and install it... it will be wayy more crazy. And safer of course.
@randomman818
@randomman818 8 жыл бұрын
"Will it fit on my honda?"
@jhm772
@jhm772 8 жыл бұрын
Can yall like actually work on a real car
@ItsChriscampos
@ItsChriscampos 8 жыл бұрын
Nope
@jawnske
@jawnske 8 жыл бұрын
+Jack Mcgaha you must be new here
@ItsChriscampos
@ItsChriscampos 8 жыл бұрын
+kaillick666 you can tell lol
@Trenticl
@Trenticl 8 жыл бұрын
you could try sealing the carb somehow and then go back to the blowthrough setup? if you use a fuel pump and fuel pressure regulator it should work in theory
@chaley9093
@chaley9093 5 жыл бұрын
19:00 the turbo is to large or the turbine to compressor ratio needs to be adjusted which I dont think youll ever be able to to do withis turbo.
@chris20trspec2012
@chris20trspec2012 8 жыл бұрын
so there is not a pressure relief valve on the inlet? recirculation or blow off. the fueling is way off for sure but hell it was a good watch lol
@markebedwell6646
@markebedwell6646 3 жыл бұрын
Mini alternator,belt driven will get you plenty of juice, efi a must for a mini turbo.
@DandSCreations
@DandSCreations 8 жыл бұрын
The turbo explanation is hilarious. Points to Compressor uh this part, points to turbine housing. this thing.
@damiansimmons7321
@damiansimmons7321 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm 5 years too late and I actually watched this video when it was released, but to answer your question on the terms of the piping, the pipe going from the exhaust on the engine to the turbo is called the hot side piping for the turbo and the intake pipe from the turbo to the engine is called the cold side or charge pipe.
@kx3408
@kx3408 7 жыл бұрын
Take the pod fliter of and drill holes where you put the blow of value and it will dose hard
@keithjoiner517
@keithjoiner517 4 жыл бұрын
1980 Pontiac Trans Am Turbo had a 4 barrel electronic port carb. There is something to piggy back!
@lincolnpower58
@lincolnpower58 8 жыл бұрын
have you looked into a blowthrough style carb!? i dont know if you do it on a small engine like this! just a idea
@redrhino1911
@redrhino1911 8 жыл бұрын
Put the ecotrons EFI kit on it. I'm going to do the same, and it would be nice to follow along if I get confused with something.
@chilledhho123
@chilledhho123 8 жыл бұрын
carbs are funny with forced air induction.. you must have it on the intake and incased in a box with the fuel pressure 10% above max boost pressure.. you would experience torq incresed with snappy response in throttel,with good driveabilty.
@racrx7
@racrx7 5 жыл бұрын
SilverFox32775 that’s how it was done in the days before EFI👍🏻
@jamesbuckley907
@jamesbuckley907 Жыл бұрын
John, i would really like to know what brand of blender you were using to comb yourvhair back in the earlier days.
@sharonpearson3552
@sharonpearson3552 8 жыл бұрын
dudes got a fairlady !! thumbs up great video
@sammy13ificationable
@sammy13ificationable 8 жыл бұрын
you could run a secondary belt, if you can find one small enough, and strap it to a box mounted motorcycle magneto to sove the charging issue
@mojoman469
@mojoman469 4 жыл бұрын
If you build an intake with the carburetor on the inlet side of the compressor housing, the carb will work as a draw through system. Otherwise you'll push fuel out of the needles and jets when the turbo creates boost.
@bryduhbikeguy
@bryduhbikeguy 6 жыл бұрын
Yep.Going to need a pulley outside the torque convertor to run an alternator.You have an extra from a motorcycle?They make them for lawn tractors?Looks like a Blast to ride !
@RailManSD
@RailManSD 8 жыл бұрын
How about a CR500 2-stroke carb placed after the turbo ? That would likely have a broad enough range of air/fuel ratio to stay lean enough at starting, while providing quite a massive ramp-up in richness to account for the boost
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