Turkish Recurve Bow from AF Archery

[@michaelblacktree]

I think the company missed an opportunity to call themselves Archery AF. 😏

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

Their youtube channel is "archery AF"...

[@kmarchery]

I have owned one for a year now . Its my favorite bow out of over 40 bows in my collection. I have 3 af archery bows in my collection. It was af archery that kicked off my making of youtube videos .

[@mikeorick6898]

The fit and finish of AF bows is excellent. So is the performance. This is a decent version of the longer, less reflexed "tekne kuram" (boat shape) Ottoman war bows. The hila kuram (crescent shape) shorter, more reflexed bows were mostly for flight archery. I have the AF Tatar, Yuan, and Han style bows also. Have won state and national traditional championships with them. AF has two levels. Below about 200 USD you get Chinese glass/glue, above that you get imported Euro/US glass/glue. Performance is the same.

[@bladedth3sis]

I recently purchased a Chinese Han style bow from this company and I couldn't be happier with my purchase. The first one came damaged and they sent a replacement right away that arrived in pristine condition. I've had it for a couple months and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but my initial impression is great! I would recommend AF Archery to anyone from first time shooters to traditionalists to competitive shooters.

[@adamkilroe9840]

Hi Matt, nice bow. Until I knackered my left shoulder, I used to shoot for fun off the thumb. I've used thumb rings and gloves, and my preference is for a glove similar to the Japanese. I also held 64lbs at 30½ inches. I strongly recommend that you find some way to protect your thumb nail, because after drawing 144 arrows in an evening, it really bloody hurts, hence using a glove. +ves Can be a far cleaner release Allows for much shorter bow length which increases efficiency Hand comes to rest at the side of the jaw with knuckles horizontal, which is much better for your elbow and wrist! Gives you between 1¼ and 1¾ inches increase in draw length over finger release When you shoot consistently, it rewards massively with accuracy -ves Even the most minor deviations in your release are punished terribly, both in elevation and windage, far more so than with the finger release Your thumb nail and index finger-tip get hammered. They will need protecting. Have fun, if you've got injured elbows, the thumb release will really help.

[@nevertrustatory9412]

AF Turkish Recurve Bow about to go out of stock like the Dynasty Forge Bastard sword.....

[@rollinhammond7401]

I literally just got one two days ago. I have generally shot recurve (Bearcat take down), and American flat bows. I must admit that I will have to have a good friend of mine show me how to string it properly. That being said (mine is 45 lbs), I truly look fwd to shooting it. I hear it has relatively less hand shock than any bows I have shot in the past. I am looking fwd to less pain while enjoying archery (being 59 yrs old). Cheer Matt!!!

[@DontKeeptheFaith]

Now, that is a very unusual looking sword. Is it historically accurate?

[@qg786]

Matt do you have a PO Box? I have a 3d printed string protector for when you store the bow, that I feel like sending you.

[@gordonallison1055]

50# is heavy for anyone less experienced learning thumb draw even if they shoot Mediterranean draw. 35# or even 30# is not a bad place to start to avoid collapse of form.

[@tarvisponsdebeaumont794]

Matt is a macho macho. (-:

[@LOFIGSD]

Agree, Turkish bows are all about proper technique, the more compact the less forgiving they are, mine is 45lb at 28 inches so over 50 at what I draw, you would be all over the place unless everything in the chain was right.

[@usnchief1339]

Just got my Tatar bow from Amazon for $170...yes, light packing. The bow is really nice and a steal at the current price. I will be getting one for my daughter real soon.

[@amphionification]

I bought one of these because of this video. It's hard to get used to as I normally shoot English Longbow, but its compact size makes it much easier to transport, though stringing is isn't nearly as easy.

[@SatsuRyu]

Glad to see that you got yourself a laminated bow from AF Archery! As you noted, the quality of those glass laminated bows for the price is outstanding. Looking forward to seeing your impressions after shooting it!

[@benm5913]

Csaba Grozer in Turkey does an array of traditional/modern recurve bows as well. Modern laminates go for about 140 Euros while traditional composite go for 1200 Euros.

[@scholagladiatoria]

Yes I do have a Grozer bow as well.

[@tysson11]

Csaba Grozer is Hungarian though...

[@metecemkarahasanoglu2019]

Hey Matt i am turkish and have been a subscriber for a time now.If you have any questions or want something to be researched here just ask. Btw siyah means black in turkish. Love your vids

[@Sk0lzky]

So are bow siyahs called siyahs because they were made of black horns? :O

[@metecemkarahasanoglu2019]

@@Sk0lzky well i looked it up but couldnt find such a thing. But i trust matt 😄. I found that the carved area which you put the string is called baş which means head in turkish. But the carving itself (the nock) was called tonç kertiği. Tonç was a little hill that was considered a border between neighbor fields. And kertik (kertiği) means notch in old turkish. So they just called it notched hill. Btw i had to look it up. Its old turkish lol.

[@adriancarrillo9627]

What is the highest draw weight a turkish bow could go

[@metecemkarahasanoglu2019]

@@adriancarrillo9627 Well i am no expert but the only research as far as iknow was done by Adam Karpowicz. So you must know that the ottoman/turkish bows were the shortes asian bows along with the korean bows. The turkish warbows were a little longer than the hunting and competition ones. But usually they were between 90-135 cm. So coming to your question Adam Karpowicz did the testing with the bows in Topkapı Palace museum which is in İstanbul. He found bows between 40-240. Now that is a BIG gap. But it is thinked that the below 90 poundage bows were used by women, elderly or by children for practice and also for hunting. But it was common to use a 100-180 pound bow for war. I think that the 200-240 bows were used by the elite and the best trained.

[@metecemkarahasanoglu2019]

​@@adriancarrillo9627 I dont know what the most powerfull bows draw weight was. But i read somewhere that the arrows speed was about 240 km/h. And as far as i know the record for an arrow to be shot is still 846 metres by an ottomon archer.

[@petitpanierdosier3206]

The thumb draw is so much versatile I love it

[@Alefiend]

This video reminds of how much I had wanted to restart my archery life once I moved here to Chicago, and of how I've completely failed to do so.

[@LOFIGSD]

I've been practicing with a Turkish Bow this Year, compact and a great Weapon for an intermediate Archer to learn Thumb release, see video of me shooting on my youtube, the Turks made very good use of these, in both lower poundage on Horseback and Warbow poundage, much more efficient than a longbow. A good weapon to practice in the UK, doesn't scare the neighbours like when you take a longbow or compound out.

[@CaptainSharkbait]

ive been doing modern recurve archery for a few years now, and ive always wanted to get into thumb draw shooting. could you perhaps make a video detailing all the things that change for a thumb draw? such as how does the arrow pass over the hand your holding the bow in, or how the spine value of the arrows differs, what quivers were traditionally used etc.

[@brettalizer3271]

you should check out armin himers videos here on youtube his videos helped me a lot also reading saracen archEry and the way of archery kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYfZmGaof8yJgas kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6rSfaFthdhqesU

[@LOFIGSD]

I do in the UK, just takes practice, traditional bows are much more real archery tbh no aids or rests, so many bits to get right, but when you do you are a better Archer. I'm no expert but put a couple of videos up showing how these bows shoot, my Turkish bow surprises people with how compact and light it is, for how lethal and accurate it is.

[@davidm1563]

I'll take more videos of you and Tod shooting both bows and crossbows any day of the week!

[@tarvisponsdebeaumont794]

Quick Archery in Hampshire sells a couple of Korean bows that are very good indeed and for even less expensive without having to cope with duties and postage from China. I have one that I bought years ago and it's perfect. Great fun and probably the best bow that I have, functionally, a great design.

[@karlsjostedt8415]

String bridge is what the white piece is called. Siyah is the whole end section of the bow, the "ears" in English...

[@miguelveratraditionalarche9374]

Really Beautyful Bow. I have AF Archery Tatar and have GREAT adventures . AF Archery make great updates on all Bows to reduce vibration and handshocks. 👍

[@ColetteNoir]

Odd that you found AF; I am looking hard at their Angular/Triangular bow now. Very long draw and fast, per Armin Himner's review. Based on the Assryian/Egyptian bows. That Turkish bow look lovely!!!

[@tomkirtley4534]

Have a look at the Slavic Release - arrow on the right as in thumb draw but use use the index finger to keep the arrow tension on the arrow pass (Armin Hirmer) demonstrates this style

[@LOFIGSD]

Honestly, unless you have mastered thumb release first, don't, and not with a 45lb bow, slavic is great for fast shooting at short range, it takes a long time to condition the fingers and tendon to do with a heavier bow, I put a quick video of me doing it a while ago, the anchor point is also lower, so it is quite different than other drawing techniques.

[@eqlzr2]

Alibow (China) makes wonderful light fiberglass versions of horse bows like this much more inexpensively (about US$100 from Nomad Warriors in Washington state, and less direct from Alibow). They shoot very well indeed. I have a Tatar bow and a horse bow. Very versatile, however a little more challenging to shoot consistently accurately than say a standard recurve bow with a shelf that you would typically shoot Mediterranean style.

[@jeffthebaptist3602]

The siyah is the unbending tips on the bow, not the string guides.

[@scholagladiatoria]

Yes, I was referring to the siyah.

[@justsomeguy3931]

"I go, I go. Look how I go, Swifter than arrow from the Tartar’s bow."-Robin, a MidSummer Night's Dream

[@Dream_Weapon]

I have 2 Chinese bows. An Alibow Segye and a custom Yuwen Bow emperor in 65#@28 with 33" draw. I also own a Korean Kaya Black Cat. All absolutely stunning to shoot.

[@dace48]

7:35 String Bridges. 9:00 True about the sides of the bow for different draws, however the main reason for these smaller Asiatic bows having arrow passes like that is because a mounted archer was expected to be ambidextrous. Be cautious when considering a traditional horn bow in the UK, our weather does not like them and they require a level of care that a "casual archer" might not be able to give them. A modern fibreglass bow can handle a degree of neglect and abuse that would destroy a horn bow.

[@VacuousCat]

Composite recurves are one of the the weapons that changed the world.

[@VosperCDN]

Nice bow - I need to get back into my own archery practice, kind of fell out of it when I had shoulder issues.

[@Gamerdude535]

Nice Bow!!! Would like to acquire asiatic composite style bows. Would one day maybe even like to make or custom order one made in a english warbow length (a bit over 6’) and the high draw weight to match Something like what Dungeons and Dragons calls a Composite Longbow. The only historical bow design that would be considered a composite longbow from what I can tell is technically the Japanese Yumi. More specifically the Daikyu. They also have a shorter one called Hankyu

[@Mupworp]

Yes mate, more bow videos!

[@matusfekete6503]

Vow, you must be rally good with bows to go directly for 189 lb one.

[@gizmonomono]

One thing you should mention is that every bow has a max draw length. In case of a Turkish bow it's probably, 28 to 30 inches. You should not draw it past that. Ask the maker of tgw bow for the max draw length.

[@TeaBurn]

Looks cool AF.

[@Skammee]

Good review . AF-Archery makes quality bows

[@messylaura]

nice one matt, bows will be a great addition to the content

[@thecaveofthedead]

The quality of Chinese production is no longer a joke.

[@mrman5566]

Depends on the item and who is producing it. Buying from china can be very risky.

[@thecaveofthedead]

@@mrman5566 Clearly. That's the same with any place. What I meant is the days of assuming made-in-China meant shoddy goods is over.

[@exiletsj2570]

Pretty much all affordable products, good and bad, are produced in China now. I'd imagine It's why the US, is currently having a trade war with them.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

You find all the quality spectrum, from the "classic" crap manufacture to top tier one

[@Raysnature]

The whole shoddy Chinese goods thing is a bit of a joke I think. If yo pay peanuts for a product you can expect little else no matter where that product is made. Conversely if you are willing to pay something like the 'going rate' Chinese products have always been excellent

[@camilstoenescu]

Damn it, now I want a bow!

[@compoundbowpro8175]

Great internet video! It looks really professional! Maintain the good job!

[@thelonerider5644]

That is a nice looking bow!

[@stevewaldorff4327]

Amazing. I was just looking at Asian style bows last night.

[@guilemaigre14]

Hey Matt, i have a question. What is you opinion on the mentality around and in HEMA clubs toward how to learn HEMA. I come from a different background, olympic fencing that is. I stumbled upon that way of doing thing that was very much more oriented toward learning by ourselves than learning by having someone more knowledgeable teaching you stuff. I find it especially ineficcient and ineffective when it comes to teaching the basics to beginners. Also i can't help but find that way of doing quite cold and unwelcoming toward new people that might be interested in HEMA. Why do you thing that is? (maybe due to the beginning of HEMA ?) And do you think this is something that could be improved on ? For the record, i have done more than 10 years of fencing and a few years of international copmpetitions. And something that i was accustomed to was that there would always be support from the masters at arms that want to push peoples forward, and not let them just hanging in their juice. So why such a disparity in mentality between two sport that are different and yet similar in many aspect ?

[@wilfdarr]

I would say it's just those one or two clubs. I don't actually do hema but I've looked into it a couple times and the clubs I've looked at were very welcoming.

[@guilemaigre14]

@@wilfdarr they are welcoming on a personal level, but the method of learning isn't really. Not easy to convey such a distinction, i may have explained myself badly up there :)

[@bansheemopar]

Considering your statue and the experience i have with draw length, i think with a thumb grip you get more to 32-33" of draw, of you draw it properly to your ear. I have 2-3 inches of difference between thumb and mediterranean draw.

[@jonc67uk]

Hi Matt, don't know if you follow Hutchie on KZbin up in Scotland, but he got his out for a shoot a while ago & both siyah's exploded at the nock grooves on his first draw on a cold day. Might want to go with eye protection just in case..

[@brucenovotny5924]

Very nice, but the way you pulled the bow, I'd seemed more like a 25#er 😉. Have you shot the bow yet? I'm considering buying one and would like to know how the bow does over longer periods of time..🙏🙏🙏 🙂👍🇨🇦

[@artemisdarkslayer]

Hope you do some more bow stuff this summer!

[@william-alexandreclement3035]

You should have looked for a simsek bow. Really realistic and same feeling as it would have been built in traditional material

[@striple6752]

string bridges ;) you’re welcome ... great video lovely bow

[@regalassad6845]

Indeed, all of the best bows are made of Bazinga wood.

[@Cysubtor_8vb]

Will be interested in your opinions as a tall archer once you start shooting it. I personally went for the tallest ILF recurve bow I could find (ended up with a 70" yet had plans to upgrade to a longer riser and thus have a 72" bow) because of my excessively long draw length (which annoyingly is also longer than most common uncut arrows) being said to be problematic for... actually it was specifically because of three finger draw due to the string angle at my length would pinch too much, but thumb draw having a smaller point of contact with the string may negate that issue. Would be nice to have a smaller bow to use occasionally vs maneuvering around my current 5'10" bow that's often taller than any of the other archers at the range, lol

[@tomhirons7475]

I have a lovely 80 pound Grozner hunnish bow.

[@theherobever]

Matt you going to love Asiatic shooting style.

[@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder]

It pleases me to see you talking about bows once in a while. I aslo like archery, but I don't do much of it nowadays. The bows I bought on the internet at roughly the same price as the bow you are showing, are : -a Flagella Dei mongol bow... poor craftmanship. -a Grozer Csaba tartar bow... excellent and beautiful, also fiber glass but with horn laminate When I whent shooting with a club, they used mostly Grozer bows and a few Kassai. The Kassai where ok but not great. A good channel for very scientific bow reviews : kzbin.info (with english translation or subtitles)

[@AnExcellentChef]

Interesting. A year or so ago I bought a Scythian-style bow from Flagella Dei and I don't really have anything to complain about it. The lacquer on the handle has developed miniscule cracks on it from bending but that's about it. Maybe I was lucky and got a good specimen. Whatever the case it suits my purposes well, that being some casual backyard archery.

[@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder]

@@AnExcellentChef Or maybe it was me who had a defective product. The mongol bow from Flagella Dei has some horn glued on the sides of the syias, and the way it is built, the the string digs deeply into them, also, one of them fell of because of the bad quality of the glue and I had to epoxy it back on. I also had to replace the string rest (I don't know how they are called) because one of them broke. So, a beautifull bow at first glance, but poor quality. The Grozer bow I have is maybe double the price but on an whole other level of quality. But Flagella Dei has a good choice of historical arrow heads. They are cast and not forged, and not always the same weigt, but I still like them because they are pretty cheap, and it's not to dramatic to loose a few. And it is not easy to find decent and cheap "historical" arrowheads.

[@sleepyrasta14820]

Nice bow

[@fahreddinkaya9819]

it's not exactly Turkish Ottoman style, it's much smaller, it's very big, it's at almost at half length originally

[@wilfdarr]

The last video I watched before this one was John Oliver's Amazon video. Bad luck mate!

[@joejoelesh1197]

"Take a punt" I will have to look that up.

[@horrovac]

So you're saying it's a nice AF bow from AF Archery?

[@qg786]

I picked up a Turkish style bow from AF archery. Armin Hirmer did a video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6SZhn2Kir53jck And I love that bow! Very accurate and consistent. I hit a few golds at 40 yards (but it's all down to the archer). I'm sure you will feel the same about this one. 👍 Edit: I also 3d print thumbrings.

[@scholagladiatoria]

Cool, thanks for sharing that.

[@londiniumarmoury7037]

Looks real nice.

[@screaminggoblin36]

Nice :-D. Any good idea where to get Egyptian recurve bow?

[@tsuchang1]

What is that wood paddle hanging on the wall behind you. I see it in a lot of your videos. Is there a vid where you show it?

[@rapmamori4136]

I bought mine a month ago, I woke up today its already snapped. Anyone have same experience? Its 45lbs I use it everyday. Remove the string once Oct30-Nov9 cause im on holiday.. Use it again Nov10-15. Woke up today Nov16 shocked its broken.

[@ILhamKambaa]

Good bow sir

[@danielmihaylov69]

Can we see your bow collection? Also take a look at Armin Hirmer's channel, lot's of good information there.

[@montag78]

Hey Mat! what watch do you wear?

[@scholagladiatoria]

It's a Seiko

[@TorchwoodPandP]

Import tax on 'hobby' articles are cheaper. Heard of someone who got a full loom sent over. It was classified as a hobby article...

[@Daylon91]

Good review

[@ollifoxbow9123]

"Aside from swords, I have a lot of bows, such as hungarian bows, warbows etc." When the zombie apocalypse comes, lucky be the guests at Matt Easton's house.

[@jeffreyroot7346]

Isn't that the Inevitable Zombie Apocalypse?

[@JonasUllenius]

45. Nice bow have fun and good luck.

[@samuelschulman7175]

Have you shot it yet? How is it?

[@MizanQistina]

I don't know if I am wrong, but isn't the bow look like backward...isn't the handle bulge part supposed to be inside (toward the string) and not outside?

[@dace48]

No, not on a Turkish bow but in your defence, yes on nearly every other kind of Asiatic recurve. It's actually one of the distinctive features that you can use to pick out a Turkish bow easily.

[@LOFIGSD]

I put a couple of videos up showing me shooting mine if you want to compare, which is very typical of the short Turkish bow, you would typically see.

[@tomkirtley4534]

String Bridges

[@jacobklunder8552]

189 punds!?! That’s a heavy draw!

[@philipzahn491]

What exactly does "Turkish Style" mean specifically? From what time period and which kind of turks doesn't it originate?

[@cool06alt]

It's long history but for bow of this shape, length it refer to ottoman bows from 15th century onward.

[@dace48]

A difficult to answer question. Most people when talking about "Turkish Archery" are referring to flight archery shooting for distance with very small light arrows and asymmetric bows (the bottom limb being way shorter than the top.) This basically came in to being around the late 16th century. There is an older tradition of military archery from the Ottoman Empire which stretches back as far as 2nd century BC. Basic defining features are the thumb draw, using a ring to protect the hand and shooting off the right side of the bow (for a right handed archer.) However they did add a few tweaks to the traditions of horse archery; the jarmakee which allows shooting downwards easier while mounted or without exposing yourself to targets at the bottom of a wall. They also used over-draw devices: the siper and majra which allow shooting tiny, fast arrows - a trick also used by the Koreans. Otherwise "Turkish Archery" is very similar to most other asiatic styles designed for mounted use expect for minor changes to equipment and where arrows are held while shooting.

[@colinferguson647]

Jacked Mat Easton shoots 189 pound bow.

[@ChristianMcAngus]

Is this the size of bow a horse archer would have used?

[@LOFIGSD]

Depends, some were smaller, Hun and Mongolian bows etc tended to be about the same size as this, for horseback, the more campact the better, my Turkish bow is small, I put a couple of videos up shooting it.

[@ulvesparker]

String bridge

[@janne4518]

I think that bow looks a bit large for a turkish bow

[@mikeorick6898]

It's good. Turkish war bows were longer than flight bows, up to 50 inches NTN when strung, so this is OK.

[@LOFIGSD]

Many are, but not all, I've seen some that really draw quite far back like this, I prefer the shorter Turkish bow, mine is only 46 inches, and is quite a fast bow, but is also not forgiving to shoot.

[@rippertrain]

Im skeptical about buying stuff from china...good luck with your new bow...if it actually fires more than one arrow without snapping in half ill be amazed

[@rodolfosjeronimo9274]

Very nice! I'm looking forward to see more archery in your channel, Matt. Like the others said, I really think you should check it out Armin Hirmer's channel (Malta Archery),, I've learned a lot about thumb draw, this type of bows and archery in general. It is an excellent source of information.

[@mindsofgreatness]

wow 55 lb, thats a lot. anyone else have recommendation on turkish composite bows?

[@LOFIGSD]

Doesn't need to be composite, many fibreglass Turkish bows shoot as well, typically might be 20fps slower, but much cheaper and tbh cheap composite bows are notorious for breaking.

[@rasnac]

You should have bought a Grozer bow.

[@scholagladiatoria]

I already have a Grozer Hungarian bow.

[@rasnac]

@@scholagladiatoria He also make quite decent Ottoman bio-composite bows, and they are only a little more expensive than your new bow. ;)

[@frankharr9466]

Aren't the limbs in English?

[@kevinreardon2558]

Oh no, something else to buy...

[@i_love_crpg]

Asiatic archery > Western Archery

[@LOFIGSD]

I have done both, for traditional bows, I prefer Asiatic bows tbh, the main drawback, no pun, with Longbows, is the arrows are heavy and expensive, plus its a War Weapon, my Longbow was 120lb, shooting was a physical challenge and there was only one club I could go to that had targets I could thud arrows into, its easier just to shoot carbon arrows in asiatic bows, if I was able to hunt in the UK, I would use a Compound.

[@i_love_crpg]

holidaythailand2010 yeah, most of the asian world is filled with bow warrior culture. Western armies lack this

[@LOFIGSD]

@@i_love_crpg Depends where and when, Archery was very important in Eastern Europe, English Archers dominated the battlefield for hundreds of Years, the only difference is in the use of mounted Archers, they lose their tactical advantage in most Western European Landscape, in Eastern Europe, they had some of the best mounted Archers in the World, some did work as Mercenaries across Western Europe. Guns made the bow obsolete by the 16th Century.

[@i_love_crpg]

@@LOFIGSD yes but in western europe, the bow was the soldier's weapon. In eastern europe their recurve bows come from heavy nomadic influence, so essentially asian influence was strong there. In asia however the bow was not only a soldier's weapon, but the weapon of elite warriors. The smybol of the leite warrior in asia was a man who could ride a horse and shoot a bow with no hinderance. Asian bows by proxy are more complex consutruction in nature, and more expensive and more elaborate. sure the lonbows has its pros, but the asian bows are far more complex, with a more extensive history to it. The western bow does not and cannot compete with majority of asiatic bows.

[@LOFIGSD]

@@i_love_crpg have a look at the Bows, Romans and Egyptians etc used, they were Composite Recurves, its not just an Asiatic idea, it was the way most bows were made, the Wooden Longbow used by the English is actually a peculiar throwback, which worked because of the attributes of the Yew wood they were made out of, a good Welsh or English Bower could make one in a day or 2, it was the cheap AK47 of it is day.

[@funnysecksnumber6998]

im turkish. i like longbows and european stuff better. weird. also 'siyah' translates to black, in the literal sense. so in turkish its actually more like a simplified version of saying 'the black bits of the bow' (the black of a bow) and we dont pronounce it 'siya' the h roughly gives you the sound of an exhale, si-ya-hhhhh. the si- doesnt increase in pitch over its length, its just one flat note, basically a shortened (about half its length) 'see' sound. so basically just pronounce it without any emphasis on any of the sounds, and an audible 'h'. im going to go back to wondering what else RTÜK will find 'inappropriate use of media' and censor, while being unable to buy newer graphics cards, and the ps5; as well as not having 5g internet while the english speaking world vandalises the 5g stations they have. and also not being able to buy the hema gear i want because apparently our money is worth 1/8th of an american dollar. hooray, life.

[@Legionaer666]

I feel like shooting from horseback now.

[@malahamavet]

So when you brexit you'll have to pay more for your weapons. By the way, DO ARCHERY VIDEOS!!! It would be something diferent

[@DavidB5501]

Yes, and there will be a plague of boils. But seriously, as China is outside the EU, the UK is likely to continue with existing tariffs on Chinese imports, at least for a year or two.

[@oMa3aH]

turkish?wow I dunno much about turkish,but this is a lot like the prabulgarian bows (eu from 681 ad)research more.the best bows made for shooting from horse back in motion.

[@ugurerken8806]

I mean avars settled in modern day Bulgaria. It's normal that they used similar archery techniques.

[@overeasymode]

The thumb draw is very Asian, how does that compare to the three finger draw. I would imagine that you’re able to pull more weight from the finger draw than one thumb. So you can have a bow with heavier draw weight with the former.

[@-Honeybee]

This is true - it's just a different compromise for weight VS speed (and sometimes accuracy due to a smaller point in pulling the string back with the thumb - think 1 point of contact as opposed to 3).

[@ryddragyn]

Generally speaking, most people can pull heavier weights more comfortably with 3 fingers, since the force is distributed over more surface area. But, the thumb draw holds the arrow deeper in the hand, so there's a draw length advantage.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

When the string is being drawn in a thumb draw, the thumb itself is locked under the index finger. The weight of the draw is not being carried by any particular muscle or tendon until just before the release. Some Mongol bows exceed the hundred-pound threshold easily, and they used the thumb draw almost exclusively.

[@snakeoveer1046]

you can pull as much weight with the thumb draw, if you want proof look at weightlifters doing snatches and cleans.

[@ryddragyn]

Snake Over That's a hook grip, it's nothing like what is being discussed here.

[@krystofdayne]

As Fuck Archery? Risky name

[@RVM451]

Matt, Which arm are the two bad elbows on? Seriously, is that bow symmetric with a window on each side? NEVER MIND. You answered that at the end. They're called "Brush Buttons." How can it be a Turkish bow, if it is made in RED CHINA? Nonetheless, I expect high quality from slave labor-seriously. Everyone thinks that is facetious… …..RVM45

[@EbefrenRevo]

Oh righ ! Britain is NOT EUROPE ANYMORE. So sad for you lads.

[@robsarchery9679]

Nice bow