How Wizzrobe converts defensive play into huge punishes

[@TheReads]

such a good video

[@turndownforwalt]

Happy you enjoyed

[@leaffinite2001]

I love hbox's reaction to the insta turn up air

[@snocoldman]

Please please please continue this series. This is some of the best melee content I've seen to date.

[@diaperboysunshine]

this was super well done and high quality for such a small channel. great job, content like this is exactly what players need

[@turndownforwalt]

Hopefully we can continue to see growth in the channel - I really appreciate the support!

[@katsukikubota7549]

Holy shit. I'm so bad at this game.

[@turndownforwalt]

You and me both brother

[@irishjet2687]

@@turndownforwalt Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't do either watch KZbin. I think I need to watch this again. 1/120th of a second?! How is that humanly possible?!

[@MiserableLemon]

People like you are the reason I love this game so much. Yeah I enjoy playing and watching but when people have dedication, and enjoy breaking down a 30 second clip into a 10 minute video demonstrating the complexity puts a smile on my face.. Keep doing videos like this, they’re the best thing ever.

[@xSolBadguy]

Daaaamn, that production quality. Loved the use of the character models.

[@mrpinguimninja]

Hbox laughing when Wizzy upaired into pivot upair cracked me up. Say what you want about Hbox, but he often acknowledges when his opponent made a sick conversion. I laughed so hard when N0ne jablocked him or when Hax beat him in Genesis

[@thelurkingpanda3605]

hbox looks like he was having a blast appreciating all what you mentioned in this video in real time

[@Metroyeti17]

I think that famous "What is this movement Ice?" moment might be cool to look into for one of these. Could be wrong, but that's just the first thought that comes to mind. Love your stuff my man.

[@turndownforwalt]

Good suggestion! I'll take a look at that set again, but I appreciate the love dude!

[@simoncheung4154]

So much information to absorb in this video! Love Frame Data! The Kadano controller mechanics article is rich!

[@turndownforwalt]

Appreciate it Simon! Kadano is a legend

[@boogergoblin]

I wish I understood more of these videos but the small bits I'm able to comprehend and the intense level of depth and detail you go into make this some of my favorite content on youtube atm

[@turndownforwalt]

Thank you!

[@keylimecookies]

Hungrybox pops off when he gets combod

[@Krusenik]

to add on to the smash turn upair after the first reverse upair: if he just wanted to land one more hit after the first upair he could do a lot of easier options(ie. reverse upair-->ftilt). but doing the smash turn upair allows him to potentially go even further with another upair, or maybe knee if hbox di'd the 2nd upair in a way that allowed for it.

[@turndownforwalt]

Great insight! It really was a crazy well-executed sequence.

[@r3aperrising984]

You HAVE TO keep making these videos man, they are so high quality and well done, meaning they are highly appreciated!

[@localbridgetposter]

Really interesting video on an analysis of how win conditions should be focused a lot of the time, as well as how defensive play should be properly executed and how small interactions can mean so much.

[@Mateo_music93]

This channel may be the single most informative melee breakdown ever. Respect.

[@sp3ctum]

Wow this is amazing. Can't believe how in depth you were able to go. This game is pretty deep!

[@_Trihawk_]

Another AMAZING video! Keep it up! This kind of content will be game changing for the future of Melee

[@turndownforwalt]

Hope to keep pushing out content like this! Thanks for the comment!

[@ZedEnFrancais]

I'd also like to chime in and say this video incredibly made. Graphically it looks fantastic and conceptually it's easy to follow while being incredibly informative. Can't wait to see more!

[@turndownforwalt]

Thanks for the support! Looking forward to more videos soon.

[@stayontrack]

I like how hbox knew how insane that was

[@JB-ns6ek]

This kept coming up on my recommended, and I’m so glad i finally clicked. New sub!

[@lorenzoram6025]

High quality content right there !! Looking forward for amazing future videos .

[@dotChrollo]

I've been working on getting really serious with my CFalcon and this video is such a nice push to really think in a slightly more situational way against players I can predict/expect

[@PieXD124]

Im such a big fan of this series, keep them coming, earned yourself a sub

[@turndownforwalt]

Glad you enjoyed! I had a lot of fun putting this one together!

[@jakobkinz123456]

Little known factoid- smash turns in IASA frames go from a 1 frame window to a 2 frame window. You are correct about the polling system. SO upon L-canceled moves, in the IASA frames, a smash turn has to be executed in (at worst) 1/60th of a second. IASA frames are everywhere. SO - options like jab (to cover early frames of missed tech) -> dash back jc grab (to cover tech roll OR wakeup roll ON REACTION) are much easier... than waiting and trying to dash back. Or use UCF...

[@turndownforwalt]

WE HAVE TO GO DEEPER. Thanks for the insight!

[@JohnBenoit46290]

been thinking a ton about win conditions, love this perspective!

[@siddarthchalla522]

Superb quality, really enjoyed this!

[@craigcraig6248]

You deserve more praise man your videos rock

[@kalpek6913]

amazing video, one of those that reminds me how beautiful the game is, this was literally one of the ten games hbox and wizzrobe played at GTX

[@diego4lonso]

Man, love this kind of videos

[@outsync4399]

Holy guacamole that was a fantastic video, love the analysis!

[@2dhudson]

Hoooly crap. This video is so damn good and insightful. Barely found the channel today. This needs to be spread.

[@turndownforwalt]

Very glad you found the channel! Hope to hear more from you in the future!

[@ffeeley1]

Really great video. Love the editing. One note though regarding sound effects: I like the polish of having a chime or other sound effects for every bullet point, but I think the ones you chose have *too much bass* on them, and you might benefit more from a lighter, less heavy tone. Heavy bass sounds tend to distract listeners by overpowering the mix with your music and voice. I watched with headphones on, and it took me a moment to realize where the bass thumps were coming from, and in turn I began missing important bullet points. Just a thought to help make sure folks are getting the most out of your content. Superb and informative video though.

[@turndownforwalt]

Thanks so much for the comment bones! Some of the SFX choices were to keep consistency with the first episode, but I also didn't want to overload sections with sounds if I felt the animation could go without it. I can definitely see what you're saying for SFX though, and I'll see if it's something I can further adjust in future videos! Appreciate the support and I hope to hear from you in the comments again soon!

[@cheikhounaniang8592]

Data

[@super2thesam]

I think sound effects that are less stereo-focused would help too. That first bassey sound sounded like it shifted between my ears (wearing apple earbuds). Since the rest of the video seemed pretty stable mono-ish sound, the weirdly placed panning of that sound defo scared me.

[@super2thesam]

Great video tho!

[@zacharyvogel8817]

Great series so far! Super interesting stuff! V well done

[@turndownforwalt]

Looking forward to the next episodes! Thanks for watching!

[@Bones0]

I never thought I'd live to see the day a Melee tutorial would properly describe a situation as utilizing "crouch cancelling AND ASDI down". Brings a tear to my eye... Unfortunately, the turnaround was actually a tilt turn, not a smash turn. I imagine Wizzy actually wanted to dash uair, but dashing too early (or getting unlucky polling if it was vanilla) gave him a tilt turn and he jumped the frame before his dash from tilt turn would have started.

[@Bones0]

@K D He got launched by the up air and immediately DIed back into the ground, entering the standard 4-frame landing animation. This is only possible with ASDI down.

[@Divinate1]

If it was a tilt turn you'd very obviously see the turnaround frames, which you don't

[@Bones0]

@@Divinate1 Gameplay footage drops frames all the time. If you go frame by frame you can clearly see the second frame of tilt turn.

[@Dlord1PlayStation]

Wow, amazing video! Impressive editing.

[@Ben-dw1vw]

Wizzy doesn't "stay calm", the scientists just forgot to code panicking into his pathing.

[@ozmassb2594]

wizzy has blast processing

[@amund9355]

Hbox impressed face is actually wholesome

[@SlunkyBoi]

wowowow this needs more views, great job dude!!!

[@noirlavender6409]

Now we need a new frame data from yesterday's LSD PLAYS

[@herzogwolf7225]

3:40 Music is Beyond from Voyage if anyone needs to know :)

[@AndrewJamesBinuya]

i'm excited for this series

[@tythesoundguy]

Very well done video!! Subscribed!

[@choknater]

this reminds me a lot of skillcapped LoL videos. excellent work

[@rawsp33d3]

Please, please, PLEASE don't get hit by a bus. We need you, and we need this. This is amazing!

[@turndownforwalt]

Pretty big request but I'll try my best man! Haha thanks for the support!

[@Lucas_Villaverde]

This makes practical tas look like a caveman

[@davidstebbins8002]

YOOOO what are these textures at 7:58 I had to do a double take to make sure this was still melee

[@antehman2912]

I seriously want to know how to replicate that

[@Bizzozeron]

its ishiiruka dolphin effects, you can turn them on in post processing. Looks like some depth of field, fxaa, maybe color correction and sharpening

[@mattdotzeb]

These videos are incredible

[@Kiriakus1]

your videos are godlike

[@kirjian]

Excellent video, take your time lad

[@jongaldames3478]

Finna go practice smash turns for hours now.

[@digg9024]

This man needs more subs

[@elliotheath5366]

Great vid!

[@KYUBIMATIAS]

Walt, there are great. Would love a Mango vs Armada video.

[@turndownforwalt]

I'll see what I can do!

[@qcumberfiesta7122]

Hbox couldn't believe that smash turn either

[@jackfrost884]

great infographics🐴

[@edisezam5741]

This is freaking great my man. you should do zain vs hungrybox at shine 2018!

[@Duck-de9dw]

Hahaha Hbox popped off for wizzrobe’s nair upair upair combo

[@ravioli_is_good1433]

Im lovin the hbox reactions

[@jacobwhite8617]

Amazing video

[@Mr_Wiley]

great video

[@ChemyChem]

Can someone please re-explain Smash Turns and Tilt Turns? Is this a SSBM exclusive mechanic? I'm lost from it tbh

[@moraigna66]

Smash turns are frame perfect (or 2 frames with UCF) and bypass the turning animation (around 7 frames) that characterize tilt turns.

[@jackzilla321]

Outstanding

[@turndownforwalt]

Thanks so much Jack!

[@FortWhenTeaThyme]

4:02 That isn't poor DI, that is failing to double jump after hitstun.

[@WinningBURRIT0]

what are you using at minute 4?

[@TheDanielradio]

Very very interesting!!! :)

[@Dlord1PlayStation]

LMAO I thought the title said "Frame Data E02 - How Wizzrobe Converts Defensive Falcon Play Into Huge Penises" and I was like...wtf? Thanks, Mang0! -.- #Wizzrod XD

[@turndownforwalt]

Yikes

[@something1351]

Sorry I can't stop thinking about wizzrod

[@GustoFormula]

8:00 These graphics remind me of those remakes of old games like OoT in unreal engine. It looks really jarring to me. I feel like it's almost disrespectful to the spirit of the game. Not a fan. However, that is my only complaint. Otherwise really great video.

[@IRMaxi]

Why does wizy look like Linkorz the SOULCALIBUR player lol the twinship is uncanny

[@joeyancey6216]

You gotta make a video like this with none

[@turndownforwalt]

I have a few ideas in the works!

[@dontbeweirdrj1805]

Nice

[@Shnergen91]

cool

[@stuna210]

So in other words, Wizzy played really well while Hbox wasn't invested nowhere near as much.

[@Alahiji]

So well made, sub/like/bell!

[@splatsmash5003]

Hbox lost this match because in that time he wanted to be cool, but recently he just holds down to crouch and ruin falcon's grab and most moves

[@cherryb0ng]

top shit. really cool graphics

[@intrigue802]

It's scary how much you sound like Nobodyepic..

[@jaysean9589]

This game...

[@DctrBread]

instead of explaining smash turns, consider just linking to a video explaining them, especially since you'll probably have to explain them again in future videos.

[@ThirtyfourEC]

Ez sub

[@chaz7282]

Heh huge

[@crococatcreative]

What the fuck are smash bros players talking about literally ever

[@turndownforwalt]

Yes