Turtle WoW Patch 1.17.2 - PALADIN Changes a Deep-Dive & Discussion | Sucess or Failure?

[@haylax4186]

As a paladin main here i can't wait to get into this, this will finally make prot pallys actual main tanks instead of being relegated to off tanking or trash mobs i am in love with this and can make something of the Preg-pally build from Wotlk or some variation - a high armor healer that also does a shitton of damage and is hard to lock down a combination of prot and holy as for ret....yeah more damage LOL

[@SteelingMorality]

Later on when you get enough gear, prot pallys would swap to a 2h and 2h tank (similar to dw tanking for war). That's prob the reason then mentioned that in the vengeance section.

[@bob_jim6584]

Looking forward to the Shaman deep dive.

[@shjelde660]

working on that one as we speak 😅

[@gui_p_mello]

As a ret I just find it a bit boring to have to wait 6 seconds to use any melee spell. I wanna use my weapon infused with light magic! I'm really glad crusader strike deals actual damage and doesn't feel almost poitless to press and that Holy Strike is gonna be instant cast, feels better! I just want my gameplay to feel better, for me it's more important than how viable it is. They could do more interesting stuff with the seals as well.

[@abwesend182]

"how ... in the world are phys dps take down (prot) paladins at this point" what I dont get, why should a phys dps can easily take down a specct and equipped tank in the first place? (or any other tank specc in the game) What am I getting wrong?

[@usurperx7111]

What WILL change* Because one thing is sure, nothing is past tense when it comes to this F******* patch!!

[@marcopalazzo9349]

Holy Paladin change is ridiculous, having to melee to gain all these new benefits is crazy, guarantee every Holy Paladin will revert back to FoL spamming the melee aoe is just to much in classic.

[@amarjamakovic1297]

I wish holy shield blocked spells :(

[@shjelde660]

agreed

[@justinmccray5014]

Bump

[@keleitas150]

I'm not a fan of these changes beside the holy one. Especially ret. I like the frenetic playstyle of crusader spamming. I like the unique interaction with certain items like Scythe of the Harvest and MCP. I liked that ret paladin is kinda the underdog that with effort and unique items and synergies (flametongue totem) can rival warriors. Also, these change feel like are taking away the vanilla mindset from twow. I think they should've brought these changes very slowly while keeping an eye on community feedback instead of going all out so suddenly while being so conservative in the past. No wonder in the twow discord the community is very divided

[@shjelde660]

YEa had they implimented these changes slowver, would likely have been better